Alright, how about an episode name? 
Alright.
We talked about poop so much.
Well, we had poop in our last...
I know.
Two episodes ago.
We can't say poop again.
People are gonna think we have some kind of fetish.
They’re going to think we have some problems.
[Theme song]
Welcome to episode 76 of Delete This History, a podcast by two besties of a certain age searching for answers.
We are your hosts, Cara Burch  and Brea Brown.
Now I feel like my microphone is low.
I didn't touch it.
You think it's okay? Do I sound all right? Yeah.
Okay.
Well then I'm just gonna forget about it.
Forget about it! You'll get louder as the episode goes on.
I always get quiet at the beginning.
Yes.
And then by the end of the episode you are like...
So, loud.
Well, yeah, it's distorting the audio.
I'm worked up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Or you get giggly.
I know.
When we laugh we get super loud.
Or by then that's when the alcohol has kicked in and I'm totally drunk.
So,...
Surprise! Yep.
If you guys only knew.
 So,  we don't have a lot of bookmarks today.
 I don't have any bookmarks actually.
So, the only thing I'm going to recommend to everyone is if you have nice weather in your area, my word, get out and enjoy it.
Get some vitamin D.
This week has been gorgeous around here.
Yes.
 In Springfield, Missouri, it is a gorgeous week.
It is  like one of,  I don't know,  six gorgeous weeks that we get a year.
Yeah.
So, yeah, that's been really nice.
I've enjoyed it.
I've been outside a lot and my  allergies will concur.
 But I'm just pushing through.
Now I do have a follow-up from last week.
 I couldn't remember the names of the people from the comedians from Who's Live anyway,  and I finally found them.
So, Naima Funk, she was the lady.
 She is so funny.
 She basically was  um  when they sing they make up the songs on the fly  she did that  she was incredible.
Wow.
So, Naima Funk look her up she's funny  and so she was doing the songs with Jeff Davis that's the guy's name I couldn't remember  and he did and  he is really funny and then Joel Murray is the other guy I couldn't remember so there were five of them and then we had Greg Proops and Tim Meadows so That was the whole gang.
Don't forget.
 Laura Hall.
 Right.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Our girlfriend.
I apologize.
 So, anyway, that was my follow up.
Just want to make sure I got those names  out there so I didn't hurt their feelings.
Yeah.
Cause they listen.
 I  mean, hello.
 Um, okay.
 My bookmark this week, just one.
I tried Cara's choreo.
Recipe, I don't think we talked about that on mic.
I don't think we did either.
I that was after we Did our silly credit and all that good stuff.
Maybe so I don't know.
 I don't even remember how it came up  Cara had a great idea that I was like well, I'll be trying that I'll be buying some maraschino cherries and trying that  it is vanilla ice cream crushed up Oreos  and  Maraschino cherries,  that's it.
It's simple It's so good, but it's so delicious.
Oh my gosh.
I had it last night.
Cause  it's  that week  before that week, if you know what I mean.
 And I just want to eat all the things and it was delicious.
 And I sent Cara  picture to rub it in  and my mouth watered when I saw it.
 I was a sad Panda.
Cause I didn't have, I only had maraschino cherries.
 see.
 That's so funny.
Together we would have had all the ingredients needed because we always have vanilla ice cream in the house.
 Oh, okay.
Unfortunately.
 And we always have Oreos in the house.
 Unfortunately.
Gosh.
Oh my gosh.
We couldn't do that.
There we there we know we can do that.
There's no way.
It's all I would do is eat ice cream and Oreos.
Yeah.
But I did have to buy the maraschino cherries.
Now see, I always have maraschino cherries in that house.
Because I drink  7up Zero,  and sometimes I like to cherry-fy it.
 So, you put the juice in there? And cherries.
Oh.
Yeah.
 And cherries.
Yeah, I want to shake it up sometimes.
I see.
 Another recipe from Cara.
 Recipe you like my  loose definition of cherry syrup  for cherries  or eight  However rough your day has been they're delicious, yeah, they are Sean cannot stand Maraschino cherry early.
He likes tart cherries But Maraschino cherries he just can't hack it So, if we ever go somewhere where there's a milkshake and there's a cherry and I always go to cherry.
He was gives it to me  I mean, they're not my favorite fruit if you want to call them that  but they're good when they're mixed in with things yeah i agree i don't just sit and eat cherries yeah anyway  that's really it yeah it has been i don't know what's going on this week i don't know why oh i know i don't really have a lot of recommendations because i'm re-watching mad men with clint because he never watched it yes the first time around  and  um  so  i mean that's such an old show It is.
I never watched it.
It's so good.
I saw a headline today that said John Hamm is making a comeback.
He's all over the place.
That's exactly what the article said.
He's everywhere.
Yeah, he is.
I don't know what's going on.
I don't know what he's got in the hopper.
I don't but I like it.
But I'm fine with it.
I don't have problems.
I love a lot of Hamm in my life.
I'm certainly not mad about it.
No.
Yeah, that show is just eye candy.
Okay.
 mean, for men and women, the women in the show are quite attractive as well.
 Three of Clint's  hall pass girlfriends are in that show.
Oh my.
 How many seasons are there of that, do you know?  Seven.
Oh my gosh, that's a commitment.
All right.
Well, anyway, that's good.
 recommendations, but we're not here to swoon over John Ham lady.
 We are here  to share our internet search histories with our DTH besties.
And for that we turn to what, Brea?  The reading of the lists.
 That's correct.
 This is where we tell you our top three most interesting, funniest, most successful internet searches of the week in list form.
Here's my list.
All right.
Number one, what is the Turing test?  Number two, protect your brain slash prevent cognitive decline.
 Number three, is it true that diseases are no longer named after the discoverer?  Okay.
 Here's my list.
Number one,  Chrisopole.
Number two,  recurring nightmare about stepping in dog poop.
 three, best series finales of all time.
 Eww.
That's a great search.
It was fun.
It was necessary.
Okay.
Very cool.
All right.
Well, I'm excited to hear about those.
Although I think you made up that first word.
 We want to play a game?  I do.
 Okay, it's time to play a game that Bri and I like to call...
 Search Me!  Where we each pose one question to each other and see if we can answer based only on The Reading of the Lists.
I'm so shocked  by us being on the same note that I didn't know how to go on.
 I'll pick up your slack.
Thank you.
 Oh, we should start a choir.
know.
Alright.
Oh, the current Search Me! score is Brea 10, Cara 7.
No.
Yeah.
How? Cause I keep losing.
I know, but I got one wrong recently.
I think you forgot to give yourself a po- No, cause you didn't get it right last week.
No, you're at 10, I'm at 7.
Well, poopa-doop.
I know.
You've been at 7 for a long time.
I know.
Sorry.
Oh gosh.
Maybe we can break that streak today.
That would be great.
Today I'm going with my gut no matter what.
Okay.
I'm not double, I'm not double guessing my gut.
Okay.
All right.
But your question is first.
Yes.
Here we go.
This is a softball.
Why do you do this to yourself? I don't know because I'm terrible at coming up with questions.
I'm not good at it.
I don't really, I'm not very good at it either.
Well, I keep losing.
So, you're pretty good or I'm just real dumb.
No, you just always should go with your gut.
Okay.
Yeah.
Which of my topics is a signal that the algorithms are worried about me?  Oh,  okay.
 Your options are what is the Turing test?  Number two,  protect your brain and prevent cognitive decline.
Number three,  is it true  that diseases are no longer named after the discoverer? I'm going to say protect your brain and prevent cognitive decline.
That of course is correct.
So, I've been reading and researching dementia so much lately that now the internet is just suggesting article after article.
mean, they're just popping up everywhere.
You like this.
You like this topic.
You need help.
You're about to get into a nursing home.
You apparently have someone caring for you 24 seven.
 So, I didn't actually go searching for this.
It was just suggested to me.
And because some of the things in it were actually pretty interesting, I thought I would share them.
 So, the article was about  protecting  your brain to prevent  cognitive decline later in life.
 So, if you continue to do  certain things over and over and over, it's just gonna, you're just basically punching yourself in the head.
 Let's not do those things.
 So, on this list,  there were some normal things that you could imagine that were pretty obvious.
 wear a helmet while you go biking.
Let's actually protect the brain.
Like literally.
I thought you were going to say wear a helmet.
Period.
Period.
 It probably wouldn't be a bad idea for me.
 Oh man.
I bumped my head a lot.
 get good sleep,  exercise,  um, manage your cholesterol cause that keeps blood flowing freely to your brain.
We want to keep that up.
 Um, and then we all know we want to maintain a healthy social life.
because that will  avoid depressive episodes because if you have those depressive episodes on a regular basis, that can lead to cognitive decline later in life as well.
shit.
 In older adults.
And we also know that when  maybe  you are married and your spouse dies, you're probably not going to be going out with other people.
And that also is...
That's not good for your cognitive functioning either.
I would think too, just interaction with other people keeps your brain sharp.
Absolutely.
So, here are the things.
I mean, those things are like good for lots of reasons, not just your brain as well.
Um, but here are a few I hadn't actually thought about before, but after I read them and thought about it, was like, wow, that kind of makes some good sense.
So, now, now this is,  Don't think I'm stupid when I say this first off.
There's more to it.
 Protect your neck from injuries.
 So, obviously we don't want to injure our neck if we can help it, but sometimes there's car crashes and things like that.
You can't help.
 But  a couple of things they pointed out I thought would be nice to mention.
If you get massages,  don't allow someone to do a deep tissue massage directly on your neck.
 Just stick to your shoulders and your back.
 The neck should just be an easy massage just to try and relax.
Yes.
 And then have you ever seen those massage guns? yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do you have one of those? do.
 I would love one though.
Our friend Cory bought one for us for either Christmas or one of our birthdays.
And we were like, what?  It  was the best thing  ever.
 Best thing ever.
 We don't use it on our neck.
 One time I was using it on Sean's shoulder.
You know, he has, he has a bad neck, bad shoulders, bad back.
Like he's just all messed up.
 So, I was using it on his shoulders one time and it slipped and it  hit him in the, like it slipped up to his head and his brain and we like scrambled his brain with that thing.
 So, you got to be super careful with those.
And that's what this thing says.
Do not use those massage guns on your neck.
That can  lead to injuries that you don't even know about.
It might actually feel really good at the time, but it can cause other issues maybe.
And so  neck injuries of any kind will reduce blood flow and oxygen to your brain.
And so you want to keep that flowing and healthy.
Okay.
So, protect your neck.
Wear a mask on smoky or smoggy days.
There's growing research linking air pollution exposure to cognitive decline.
Scientists think very fine, inhalable particles in the air.
could trigger chemical changes once they reach the brain.
Now, you can't avoid inhaling all particles.
Correct.
 Some are going to get through any mask, even an  N95.
 Right.
 But  that is the mask, the N95 or surgical mask.
 They would recommend you use on smoggy or smoky days.
Use an indoor air filter if you can.
 on days when the air quality is particularly bad to try and minimize your exposure.
And we're talking about like cities where there are smog issues on a regular basis where they get  daily updates on the smog situation.
What's the air quality today? Right.
We're talking about you, our listener in India.
Yeah, you know I'm talking to you.
 And then,  um,  wildfire country.
 If you, if it's wildfire time,  you should.
really be protecting your, um, yourself.
Yes.
if you're like burning leaves or something like that or brush or something, wear a mask.
Yep.
Yep.
Yep.
Those are all good things.
So, you don't know what's burning.
You know, I mean, my gosh, if it's just burning a bunch of houses, think of all the chemicals, all the things, all the plastic, everything that's being burned.
Um, and then just think of the smog, the chemicals that are in that smog.
So, Inhaling that stuff can actually, if you do that on a regular basis, it can actually lead to cognitive decline in later years.
 Okay.
Here's another interesting one.
 Maintain  good oral hygiene to prevent oral infections.
 If you get oral infections, they can actually spread to the sinuses.
 And  some studies have now found a link between gum disease and dementia.
 Interesting.
 Now it's already been linked to heart disease.
Right.
 Exactly.
Crap sticks.
That's right.
Take care of those teeth.
 It's very important.
Yes.
Yeah.
And then have your hearing checked.
Older people with hearing loss have a greater risk for developing dementia.
Scientists think this may be because the part of the brain that processes hearing  is very close to the part responsible for memory.
 Or  it could also be a result of atrophy.
 If you don't use it, you lose it.
 So, people who have hearing loss tend to withdraw from social activities that could help keep their minds engaged.
So, we don't realize how much  of the ambient noise around us.
don't, we're not conscious of it, but our brain is actually processing that.
it's being stimulated.
Exactly.
 So, as your hearing diminishes,  you're not, your brain's actually not processing as much because it's not in, in taking, in taking, no, taking in.
 the  ambient noise.
 And so your brain begins to atrophy because it's no longer processing what it wants.
The processing levels are lower, I guess is what I'm trying to say.
stimulus.
 And like it said,  when people  begin to lose their hearing, they withdraw, they don't go out as much.
 It's hard to hear, so  I'm not going to go out.
 So, then you've got that coupled with the lack of  the ambient noise being processed  that can lead to  dementia.
This is just going to freak you out about everything.
Oh, it's  I mean, it's I'm already there in life.
I'm actually really glad to know about these things.
I hadn't even thought about these kinds of things.
So, that you can stress out when you know.
Not really stressing out about it anymore, because with my luck, it's just inevitable.
I'm just going to have dementia.
I've kind of like come to terms with it, I think.
 But why do you think that that's so inevitable? It's just how my luck goes.
It's the one thing I don't want.
So, I think that that's the one thing I will get.
I don't.
And it's the one thing that really,  I, wow.
It really scares you.
It does really scare me.
mean, I've seen it and I don't like it.
I know.
Anyway,  um, blah, blah, blah.
So,, so when you start to have hearing loss, you notice it,  um,  get your hearing checked.
 Don't wait until you're 80.
Don't wait until you're 70.
The  information I found says  once you hit 50, you should start having hearing tests at least  once every three years.
 Especially if someone says to you, dude, you say, huh,  all the time.
Maybe you don't even notice it.
 But what if you do that because  your kids mumble? That's well, obviously that's not you.
You know, that's not you.
That's what my mom always used to say.
You all mumble.
Well, I guess you better get your hearing checked.
 And now I'm saying it to my kids and I'm like,  Oh shit.
 But your kids do mumble.
 Oh yeah, they do  real bad.
 Oh my gosh.
 Um,  so have your hearing checked  and,  um, wear earplugs or,  um,  muff ear muffs,  not ear muffs, like noise canceling headphones, your muffs.
 If you're around loud noises constantly, like if that's on the job, or if you go to concerts a lot or, okay.
 So, if you do get a hearing test and you do decide, my gosh, my hearing, it's not, know, a professional tells you your hearing is not  what it should be.
 Wear your earphones, wear your hearing aids all the time.
Even when you're sleeping? Not when you're sleeping.
It's not gonna matter.
 Especially if you sleep with someone who snores.
But all the time, all the waking hours.
Yes,  all the waking hours.
Don't just put them in when you leave the house.
 Even if you live alone, you should wear them because that goes back to what we were talking about earlier.
Stimulus.
You're taking in all the ambient noise and you're you just you should wear them all the waking hours.
Yeah, it's a safety thing, too.
Absolutely.
It is.
You need to be able to hear like if somebody is coming in your house or.
Yeah.
Especially if you live alone.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
100 percent.
Okay.
So, the next one, get your eyes checked for the exact same reason to have your hearing checked.
 When your vision begins to diminish, we're not taking in as much stimulus as we normally are.
having your eyes checked, wearing good glasses,  having  corrective surgery, wearing contacts, whatever, it's going to help your brain continue to process things  and help with your cognitive functioning.
Yes.
 Um, so the brain is better at making connections and processing input for the senses that are active.
 Um, so we want to ensure that all of our senses are working the best they can to maintain a functional brain.
 Um, my sources hold on to your socks.
 The New York times  NIH, RIP, Cleveland clinic, American Academy of neurology and neurology.
org.
 I gave this one a six on the Garen scale because it's really good information.
I felt like I learned a lot of stuff that I hadn't ever really thought about.
Yeah.
 Um, but also because, um, but also gave it a lower score because I'm, know,  I'll, I'm going to get dementia.
 And it just made me think about it.
 I just, I really don't think you are.
I,  I just really appreciate your optimism.
Do you have, does it run in your family? No.
 Okay.
I too am terrified of dementia because it is so terrible.
 But then I think, well, I'm not going to know what's going on.
Right.
But,  oh, it just.
It's awful.
But at the same time, it's like,  huh? know.
 Anyway,  I mean, I don't just sit around and worry about this, but when I do read stuff like this, I'm like, oh, geez.
 Check.
 Check.
Check.
I know.
It's so terrible.
Are you ready for your question, Cara?  Hang on, I'm gonna get my gut  ready.
Okay.
All right.
You've been drinking? No.
 You've been eating that yogurt? Yes.
Okay.
yogurts.
Good yogurts.
 What brand did you get? I  tried another Fahier.
 Oh.
And it's fine.
Because it has flavor.
It has flavor.
That straight up Fahier with nothing in it.
Okay, here we go.
 Your question today is, which search was prompted by a crossword puzzle title and resulted in the discovery of a huge gap in my education of American history? Your choices are Chrysopole or Chrysopoli.
I don't even know how to say it.
Recurring nightmare about stepping in dog poop or best series finales of all time.
I mean, my guts telling me Chrysopole.
It is correct.
Oh, I feel like maybe you made that a little easier.
Thank you.
 I don't know.
It was just the question that came up.
Okay.
 It was just the question that came up for the topic.
Chrysopole.
Yes.
Is Greek for Golden Gate.
And it's the original name given to the strait that serves as the entrance to San Francisco Bay from the Pacific Ocean.
 U.
S.
Army Captain John C.
Fremont gave it that name in 1846 because he said it reminded him of a harbor in Istanbul named Chrysoceros or Golden Horn.
 And we allowed people just to name things  randomly back then,  I guess.
 He was an Army Captain and so we said, sure, you get to name this  Chrysopole.
Construction on the bridge spanning Chrysopole or the Golden Gate Straight, that's hard to say.
it is.
Began in 1933 and was completed in 1937.
At the time of its completion it was the longest and tallest suspension bridge in the world.
The bridge's construction was a remarkable engineering feat overcoming strong tides, frequent fog in the Great Depression.
Two those things aren't natural.
 One of those things is not like the other.
 Did you ever learn any of this in school? No.
I had never heard this story.
In fact, we learned the same damn things every single year.
Wars, wars, wars, wars, wars, and more wars, and dates.
And I really wish we had been taught some interesting things like this.
 Like, I don't need to know the nitty gritty on every landmark in the US.
But I think it's just as important to know,  you know, the background on these things as it is to know a bunch of dates.
I agree.
Which I've forgotten anyway.
You don't remember them unless you're like  my youngest kid who remembers all that.
And who cares when guys fought over land and slaughtered each other? That's not edifying.
Well, and we're not learning from it, which is what we're supposed to do.
Exactly.
Yeah, we're just constantly  fighting more and more and more  because we learn from learning that stuff that that's the way you solve problems.
  This is the way you resolve conflict.
This is the way you get your way.
Is  you kill people.
Great lesson.
 Anyway...
 You know what would have been great? What? Some context.
Okay.
In history.
For example, did you know that the Aztec capital was founded around 1345, the same time the Black Death was ravaging Europe? See, things like that fascinate me.
Me too.
Things that are going on at the same time that you learned separately, but you never learned...
Together.
Together.
Like, hey, Let's learn about this.
And you know what was happening at the same time this was happening way over here? Yes.
This was happening.
Yes, I We learned it all separately, on, like, were on completely separate timelines.
I know, I know.
I, and I find that fascinating, because I will figure out, like, that these were happening at the same time.
Yes.
Here's another fun fact.
Tell me.
Maybe.
When the Aztec Empire was at its strongest in the 1430s, Henry VI was the King of England,  and England and France were in the thick of the Hundred Years War.
Like, what the heck? These were totally separate in my head.
 These things like the Aztecs and Henry VI did not exist at the same time.
Yes, right.
Yes.
To me? That would be a really great history class.
And I just feel like  I am so dumb.
and ignorant when it comes to that kind of stuff.
It's because they separated out.
Like you didn't have,  I never had a world history class.
 I had a European history class.
 had a US history class.
mean,  they were never talked about together.
 Ever.
We did.
We had a world history.
I mean, we talked about world history, but it was always  like they all existed in a vacuum.
It was never  linked.
That's so annoying.
 Okay, here's another thing.
 Henry VIII, you know, the famous one.
I know that one.
He was the King of England when the Spanish conquistadors in Cortes were toppling the Aztecs in 1521.
So, that was going on at the same time.
Yep.
And all we talk about is, oh, that  was the Tudor period.
Right.
There wasn't anything else going on.
That's what I was taught.
Nothing else was going on.
Nothing was happening.
And it's not just like, because all we ever learned was English history because that was our history before this country was  created.
I think,  I think that that feeds into it a little bit.
Yeah.
But it's just like,  they acted, they act like none of that had any effect on each other.
 And maybe it didn't because the world was so much bigger back then  because  they weren't communicating with each other and the Aztecs didn't know what the F Henry VIII was doing and didn't care.
And so maybe that's why we were taught that way.
I don't know.
Because that's the way the world was back then.
I know there are some teachers listening because some of our DTH besties are teachers.
 Yes.
So,  I would like some insight.
Well, it's all about how, um, you know,  In the American education system, we teach to test.
You have to take tests at the end of the year to determine how much money your school gets.
 But I took a lot of history in college too.
It still wasn't taught that way.
And college is where you're supposed to be, you know, stretched a little bit, stretched.
one of my English teachers even said like in our freshman year, he brought up you're going to hear things in my class and then go to your science class.
And he said, suddenly things are going to start to cross over and you're going to be like, oh my gosh, this happened because of that.
And I heard about that thing in that class too.
And he said, you're going to find out how things in the world just overlap with each other that you never knew.
I I remember that so clearly.
But did that happen? It happened once.
 The Venn diagram overlapped one time.
One time that I was like, oh my gosh, we talked about this in this other class in a different way.
 Right.
But now we're talking about it in this class.
With a different emphasis.
Yeah.
A different viewpoint.
 One  time that happened.
should be easier to do that  before you get to college, because in college all the teachers and professors, they're in different buildings, they're in different departments, they're in different whatever.
 I mean, when you're in elementary school  and high school and whatever, all the teachers are in the same building and half the teachers teach more than one thing.
So, you would think they would link them more.
More collaboration.
Now I will say one of the best classes I ever had in high school was, and I can't remember what it was called.
Forgive me, Mrs.
Heron.
and Mr.
Whatever his name was.
I can't remember the teacher's name.
How long ago it was.
Sorry, Mr.
Whatever your name was.
 They she was an English literature teacher.
He was a history teacher  and they collaborated and we talked about history and then we talked about the literature that was being written at that time.
It was  the best class  and all of us were engaged.
There was  nobody was checked out.
 I mean, it was such a good That's amazing.
It was awesome.
 It was the best class I had all through school.
And it's also something that you can use.
 Yeah.
Okay.
So, I was made aware of these connections and these overlaps by listening to You're Dead to Me,  podcast put on by the BBC.
 That's who's educating me nowadays is the BBC.
 We'll just have to lament the US education system again some other time, and there will be plenty of opportunities.
I'm sure,  especially  in the future, near future.
 My sources were Wikipedia, Britannica, history.com, Copilot, and Eeyore.
 No, I just realized I sounded like Eeyore.
 There will be plenty of opportunities, I'm sure.
 Oh my gosh.
My Garin scale is a nine.
Yeah, it deserves it.
That was a great topic.
It's fun.
It is fun.
But I couldn't believe that.
Like there was a picture of the Golden Gate Bridge and there was a word, Chrysopole.
And I was like,  what in the hell is that?  And why are these things  being linked together? had to look it up because it didn't explain it.
and never explained it in the actual crossword puzzle.
Gotcha.
Very good.
 And I bet people in California, like the kids in California, they learn that stuff.
I don't know.
Because  it's more relevant to them, I guess, but it's relevant to me.
I want to learn that kind of stuff.
Did you learn why the arch was built in St.
Louis? Me neither.
I have no idea why it was built.
I know it's called the Gateway to the West.
 Is that why? Is it a symbol of, hey, you're heading west? I always just thought it was just a tourist attraction.
 Who knows? I'm sure there's some history behind And bragging rights or whatever.
Yeah, you're right.
So, maybe Californians don't know.
So, you're welcome, California.
Yeah.
Good job, Brea.
 All right.
Schoolin' the Californians.
 All right.
Well, it's time to get awkward.
 Just a little bit.
Okay.
Cause we've reached a segment that we call shared history and the transition to this segment is always so weird.
Cause we don't know what to do.
We don't know what to do.
I'm just like shuffle my feet and I don't know where to put my hands.
And we don't care enough to fix it.
 I mean, we tried.
We tried.
 We tried for a while back when we cared.
It just didn't work out.
Yeah.
And it didn't work.
And we were just like, Hmm, I guess we just will just keep on going on being awkward.
Too much energy.
 But  this is the segment where we tell you our DTH besties, what we searched this week, why we searched it, and what we learned, if anything at all.
Brea,  do you know what the Turing test is?  I have a feeling it was named after  Alan Turing.
As a matter of fact, it is.
But I don't know what it is.
Well, it's his test and he actually called it the Imitation Game.
 Oh, I liked that movie.
It was an excellent movie.
 So,, AI has become part of everyday conversation.
Oh.
 And so  as  I was reading articles this week, I ran across a phrase the Turing test  It is named after Alan Turing and again, like I said, he originally called it the imitation game  in his 1950 paper computing machinery and intelligence so The Turing test is a test of a machine's ability  to exhibit intelligent behavior equivalent to or indistinguishable from that of a human Okay  It's designed to answer the question, can machines think?  All right, here's how the test works.
There are three participants.
 The first one is a human judge or an interrogator.
The second is a machine that is trying to imitate a human.
The third is a human providing a baseline for comparison.
 The judge engages in natural language conversations with both machine and the human  and These two, the machine and the human are in separate rooms.
are not together.
I was about to say, so it was kind of like Jeopardy when Watson played Jeopardy, but it's not.
It's not.
But the judge is what? In a third room.
And all communication is being done by text.
There's no voice.
All right.
So, the judge can't see them.
The judge can't hear them.
and the judge can ask any questions they want on any topic.
All right?  Okay.
So, the goal is for the judge to determine which of the two is the machine and which is the human based only on their written responses.
Okay.
The machine's goal is to deceive the judge into believing that it is human.
Okay.
 If the machine can fool the judge around 70 % of the time after five minutes of questioning, then the machine is said to have passed the Turing test.
  The implication is then if a machine can consistently produce responses indistinguishable from the human, then it has achieved a level of thinking or intelligent behavior comparable to a human.
This is Alan Turing's hypothesis.
Okay.
 So,  it's a behavioral test and Turing deliberately sidestepped the philosophical debate of quote, what is thinking? and focused on whether a machine could  act indistinguishably from a thinking human.
The test relies heavily on natural language processing since the machine needs to understand and generate human language effectively to carry on a conversation.
Now, for many years, the Turing test has been considered a significant benchmark and a driving force in the field of AI.
 It has spurred research into creating machines that can understand context, exhibit common sense and engage in coherent dialogue.
And over the years, there have been a variety  of tests that  are like the Turing test.
They relate to the Turing test.
 They've been created and used on their own.
The Turing test isn't the only one out there, obviously.
 Now, there were lots of criticisms  of the Turing test,  lots of them.
 Critics have argued that the test rewards deception  and the ability to mimic human flaws rather than genuine intelligence or understanding.
 Passing the test doesn't necessarily mean the machine is conscious or truly understands the conversation.
John Searle's Chinese Room Argument is one of the most famous philosophical counterpoints to the idea that passing the Turing Test demonstrates genuine understanding.
All right?  Okay.
Here's the Chinese Room Argument.
Okay.
It's a thought experiment against the possibility of strong AI, the idea that a computer can genuinely understand and have a mind in the same way that humans do.
So, imagine a person who understands only English is locked in a room.
Inside the room, there are boxes filled with Chinese symbols  and a detailed rule book written in English.
Okay.
The rule book contains instructions on how to manipulate the Chinese symbols based purely on their form without understanding the meaning.
 People outside the room who understand Chinese pass questions or statements written in Chinese into the room through a slot.
Following the English rulebook, the person inside the room manipulates the Chinese symbols and passes other Chinese symbols back out through the slot.
To the people outside, the responses coming from the room are indistinguishable from the responses a native Chinese speaker would give.
The room has, in fact, passed the Turing test for understanding Chinese.
Searle's argument is that despite the fact that the room's responses are perfect and would fool the outside observer into believing  there's a Chinese speaker inside, the person in the room does not understand the Chinese language.
They are merely manipulating meaningless symbols according to the rules they understand in English from the English rule book.
Searle argues that a computer running a program that processes language is in a similar situation.
The computer manipulates symbols or information  according to its program  or  the rules,  it doesn't understand the meaning of the symbols.
Just like the person in the room, the computer is performing syntactic operations  without any semantic understanding.
 Brea is Team Searle.
 Searle concludes that syntax is not sufficient for semantics.
simply manipulating symbols according to the rules is not the same as understanding their meaning.
 So, the Chinese Room  argument  has a lot of its own criticisms out there  and there are a lot of them and some of them are actually pretty interesting.
 I'm not going to go into that because this search is already too long,  but if you're interested just google Chinese Room argument criticisms.
And it's pretty interesting what  the, mean, everyone kind of has a valid point.
Yeah.
Now with the advent of sophisticated models like GPT-4 and its  other iterations, some people claim the AI has already  passed the Turing test under certain conditions.
Absolutely.
Studies have shown that these models can sometimes convince human judges that they are human.
in text-based conversations.
However, the claims are still debated with many arguing that these models excel at generating human-like text.
They may still lack genuine understanding, reasoning, and common sense in a broader text.
 My sources for that, again, hold on to your socks.
 NarrativeScience.com, Library.
cmu.
edu, PlatoStanford.
edu, Coursera.
org,  researchgate.
net, Time Magazine, excuse me, burp, IEP, UTM.
edu, and Britannica.com.
Nice.
I gave that a Garen scale of 10 because it's fascinating to me.
is, yeah.
It's very, it's very interesting, but.
have a whole podcast about it.
Whoa, yeah, you totally could.
 Oh, I know the John Ham.
I'm listening.
Yeah, I knew I'd get your attention.
 The John Ham  AI experiment podcast.
How is John Ham involved?  He's just there.
Oh, because he's everywhere.
He's making come back.
Right.
Okay, let's start it.
I would like to be able to figure out how AI can make a Jon Hamm for me.
Like my own personal Jon Hamm.
 I think that would be amazing.
 Well, just plug it into Gemini and see what it says.
Can you create my own personal Jon Hamm for me? Just a sec, it says.
 Well, I can't literally create a physical being like John Hamm for you.
You mean a remarkably wonderful physical being.
 I can definitely help you create a personalized experience inspired by his qualities and the roles he's played.
Think of it as curating a collection of things that evoke a similar feeling or appeal.
I'm there.
To create your personal Jon Hamm, tell me more about what you find appealing about him.
 How much time do you have, Jim and I? Oh my gosh, this goes on forever.
They want me to talk about his persona and charisma.
 Um,  are there particular characters he's played that resonate with me?   The hamaconda  I Don't know about the hamaconda.
I'm gonna have to that up same writing it down  What kind of vibe or feeling do you associate with him lust? Okay  Do you appreciate his classic style? Oh, so his aesthetics his style and aesthetics his talents and interests, whatever   Once you give me some more information, I can help you create a personal John Hamm in the form of  curated playlists  book and movie recommendations style inspiration.
Oh Yes,  and then I can force those on my husband.
That would be great  activity suggestions or even writing personalized John Hamm esque Scenarios or short stories for your amusement John Hamm fanfiction  They're putting me out of business as a rom-com writer   This made me sad.
This went far and above what I was expecting.
Yeah, I thought they was, I thought the answer was just going to be no, I can't do that.
Or no, I don't understand.
But see this passes the Turing test.
It's impressive.
 Man.
 And you're not done.
It's asking for more information so we can create something specifically for you.
It's actually going to try to do this.
It says,  um, So, what aspects  of Jon Hamm would you like to bring into your life? Let's start building your personalized experience.
Oh my gosh.
 You're scary, Gemini.
You're real scary.
 One of my favorite things about Jon Hamm is how funny he is.
Oh yeah.
The guy,  he can do it all.
to this day, it doesn't matter how many times I have watched Hamm and Bubbly skit on Saturday Night Live.
Yep.
I laugh my ass off  every time.
And he's also really funny  when he made some guest appearances  on 30 Rock.
Oh my gosh.
 When he was so stupid, but he was good looking so he could get anything he wanted.
He could get anything he wanted.
 And then he had the hook hands.
those were  great episodes.
 Oh, they really were.
And then he just kept showing up.
Yes.
Oh my gosh.
Oh my goodness, yes.
He was a great recurring character.
 Okay, well,  that's gonna be a hard act to follow, but here we go.
Okay.
 And this relates to Jon Hamm.
Shut  up.
I'm not kidding.
Oh my gosh.
 The best series finales of all time.
Oh yes.
 Now, Clint and I finally finished Hell on Wheels.
Thank goodness.
Right? And I was pretty disappointed  with the series finale.
and pretty much the whole last season.
Lame.
Yeah, I know.
 It wasn't the worst finale I'd ever seen, but it was not MASH or Friends or Six Feet Under or The Office.
 Those are shows that consistently make lists of the best series finales of all time.
 And here are some others.
 Parks and Rec,  Breaking Bad,  Mad Men,  The Shield.
I've never seen that.
I haven't either.
I tried to watch it and I couldn't get through it.
Yeah, you know, not my thing.
Well, I guess normally it would be my thing.
But I don't think there was enough eye candy in it.
I didn't realize that  it centered around a dirty cop.
 I  think I'm shallow, Cara.
 What? I think I might be.
 Okay, here we go.
 New heart.
 Oh, yes.
That was a great finale.
was.
The Sopranos.
 This made the both the best and the worst lists.
The Sopranos.
 I could see that.
 Lost also made the best and worst list.
Agreed.
Now,  can you think of one that really stuck with you? Oh, gosh.
Oh, gosh.
It's hard because Clint and I, because  when I was  criticizing the last episode  of Hell on Wheels.
 He was like, well, what are some  of the best series finales that you've ever seen? What are some better ones? And I blanked.
 That's why I had to search this because I could not think of any shows that I actually liked the series finales.
 And that is because American TV goes on too long.
And the series are,  the finales are crap.
And I read more about this as I was looking this up.
They said that  series finales are getting better because  show runners,  first of all, they're limited series.
 They're putting out a lot more limited series where they know exactly where it's going to end before they start writing.
That's awesome.
So, it's not like you just keep writing and writing and writing until you're out of ideas and then you put together a shit last season  to wrap it all up.
So,  they're planning out shows better  and the seasons are shorter.
 Good.
Because  we don't have those traditional  TV seasons anymore.
Right.
Right.
You can watch, I mean, you'll have a new  season of a show and it can start in the middle of whenever, the summer.
And that never used to happen.
It was always fall to spring.
And everybody watched it at the same time.
Everybody watched it at the same time.
 And  all shows had like however many episodes of season, a lot, however many weeks there are,  with maybe a couple off here and there for holidays or whatever.
 And it was fall to spring, fall to spring.
And there were sweeps.
 That's how they.
creative ratings and blah blah blah and none of that matters anymore.
None of it.
It's all out the window.
 So, now shows are like, okay, well let's plan this out.
We'll have four seasons.
First season will be this, 10 episodes.
First episode this and they just plan it all out.
 Like I don't know how to do when I write my books.
just, maybe that's why the last books in all my series are so bad.
Why would you say that? Cause they are.
They're just not as good because I fly by the seat of my pants.
And then I'm like, I'm kind of sick of talking about these people.
 I mean, that's not true.
Everybody read my books.
 All of them.
 In all the series.
I just made an assumption that when you started a series, you knew where it was going.
 I don't even know where it's going usually with a book.
Oh my gosh.
I just start writing.
I have an idea.
I start writing.
 I'm  not a plotter.
Or a planner.
I'm a...
Oh! That would stress me out.
I just go.
 And it causes a lot of problems.
 Cause I get halfway through the book and I think where the hell am I going?  Oh, but you always figure it out.
Eventually.
I take a lot of showers.
I get real clean and I think, I think of solutions.
 So, anyway,  can you think of any that just blew your mind?  So,  I do feel like the game of Thrones finale was pretty good.
Okay.
I did not see, I couldn't figure out where it was going.
Okay.
And that's usually.
 what I enjoy about a season finale.
It surprises me.
Right.
 Now I will say the MASH season finale always makes me cry.
doesn't matter how many times I've seen it.
It was really good.
Cause it's  just phenomenal.
It was really, really good.
 Um, I might have to think about this one for a while and come back to you because I just can't come up with things off the top of my head.
How did you feel about the lost finale?  So,  I was okay with it.
  Okay, let me start over.
At first I was really mad about it.
Like  really mad.
 And then after I let that soak in for a few weeks,  I was okay with it.
 I bet that's why it's on both lists.
 The good and the bad.
 And when I rewatched it all the way through,  I knew how it ended.
 knowing how it ended and rewatching the whole thing, I actually really liked how it ended watching it the second time through.
more sense.
Not that it made more sense, it just like fit.
I just had that ending in mind as I watched everything.
Yeah.
I guess yeah, I guess it made more sense.
You were watching it more like the writers.
Maybe.
I don't know.
But I really like the show Lost.
I enjoy it so much.
I know you do.
And Brie has never watched it and she refuses.
I just will not watch that show.
Okay, now how about the most disappointing  season finales or series finales? Um,  I didn't,  I was a little bit mad about Parks and Rec.
I feel like it was rushed and it was so like rush, rush, rush, rush, rush, rush, they just like slapped it together.
It felt that way to me.
I wasn't like super disappointed in it.
I was just like, wow, that was a neat bow.
Yeah.
And it kind of went like  over the top.
was a Dan in real life ending.
Yes, it was.
 Here are some of the ones that made my disappointing list.
Oh, yes, please.
Because that's all I could come up with when Clint said, well,  name a better series or series finale than Hell on Wheels, because he  he was pretty impressed with it.
He was like, that was that was pretty good.
And I was like,  well, but he watches a lot of shit shows.
You know what mean? I understand.
 Like he was comparing it to things like  Smallville.
 Oh, and that show jumped the shark like after season two  and.
was terrible and so this of course the series finale was terrible.
 I  did not like the Game of Thrones finale.
You didn't?  But I think it's because it was  just too hyped.
Like I had my expectations were just too high.
Okay.
 Dexter was terrible.
 Oh my gosh yes.
That whole last season and agreed.
 Roseanne was awful.
I didn't watch Roseanne.
I don't Like, I mean, this  might be a spoiler for some people, but the show's been off the air for like almost 30 years now or something.
 It was all a dream.
The whole show was a dream.
 You find out in the last season that Dan is dead and Roseanne has just been making all this up in her head.
 Oh.
And I don't like crap like that.
I don't like gimmicky like, it was all a dream.
I think that's such a cop out.
And I didn't like the Seinfeld finale.
Oh, I was just looking at that.
So, I didn't like it.
I'm going to go with my lost answer.
I didn't like it at first.
I was like, are you kidding me? But then after I let it sink in for a few weeks and you think about that whole series,  they really were terrible people.
  If you think of all the things they did and how mean they were to people and how they talked about people,  they really were terrible people.
That's true.
Elaine wanted to be a good person, but  she just couldn't do it.
 so it kind of makes sense  that they all ended up in jail because they were laughing at someone being robbed.
Yeah.
And I think maybe some of these I need to watch again as a grown up.
Like as a real grown up with like real life experience, not just like a 20 something.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's probably true.
Okay.
So, my sources were IMDB, Collider, ScreenRant,  oh, Copilot of course, just to get me started.
 And my Garen scale was an  8 because I, I like thinking about stuff like that.
Yeah, I really like I'm so distracted now.
Like I want to go and sit and look.
 I'm to come back to you next week.
Okay, I'll have some follow ups for you.
Okay.
 I was looking through TV shows on the internet while you were  and I've got a few.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
I'm ready.
My last search.
it true that diseases are no longer named after the discoverer?  I think I heard a character on Grey's Anatomy say something like in passing,  well, this is why we don't name diseases after people anymore.
Okay.
And I was like, what? That makes sense.
Is that a rule? So, looked it up.
And it's not entirely accurate to say that they are no longer named.
 But there is  a  definite  trend  to move away from that  practice.
So, historically, it was common to name diseases, conditions, medical findings after the person who first discovered them,  i.
e.
Alzheimer's, Parkinson's.
Those are never going away.
Those are just going to stay because they are like a part of the fabric of society.
 However,  We don't even think of them as names anymore.
No, no, no, they're not.
Um, so this practice of naming diseases after people is known as eponyms.
It was a way to honor those who made significant medical contributions.
 Great.
 We're going to honor you by associating your name and all of your descendants names from here to eternity with this terrible thing.
You're welcome.
 The cara  is explosive diarrhea.
 Oh, I'm so sorry.
You've got  cara disease.
 You have a case of the caras.
 It always comes back to poop.
does.
However, in recent years,  there has been a growing movement to stop this practice for several reasons.
 One, accuracy and clarity.
Eponyms don't always describe or don't always provide information about the disease itself.
 Descriptive names that highlight the disease's characteristics, causes, or affected organs are considered more helpful.
Correct.
 Ethical concerns.
Some historical figures associated with eponyms had problematic pasts,  including involvement with unethical practices.
 This has led to calls for renaming diseases to avoid honoring such individuals.
So, I was curious about some examples of this.
 I asked AI to give me some examples and the majority of them included Nazis.
They experimented on prisoners in concentration camps.
experimentations basically.
 Another one I found, another example it gave were  like in the thirties,  mentally ill  patients that were in sanatoriums,  they were captive and they were experimented on.
 But some of those doctors were honored for things that they discovered.
Well, how about the dude who's considered the father of gynecology? He experimented  on enslaved women.
 Oh great.
Yeah.
Perfect.
This is what I'm saying.
Right.
 Another reason for moving away from eponyms is the collective nature of science.
 Many medical discoveries are the result of collaborative efforts, not the work of a single person.
Naming a disease after one individual can overlook the contributions of others.
Yes, ma'am.
 Right.
 Absolutely.
Standardization.
 Using descriptive names promotes greater standardization and clarity in medical terminology,  facilitating communication among healthcare professionals worldwide.
 Another is avoiding stigma.
The World Health Organization issued guidelines in 2015 to avoid naming diseases  in ways that could create stigma.
These guidelines aim to minimize negative impacts on trade, travel, tourism, animal welfare,  and avoid causing offense to any cultural, social,  national, regional, professional, or ethical groups.
 examples,  avoid using geographical locations.
Some examples are the Spanish flu.
 Oh yeah, which is a misnomer anyway.
Exactly.
 Middle East respiratory syndrome or MERS.
 Oh,  I remember that.
right.
 Ebola, hemorrhagic fever.
Did you know that Ebola is the name of a river  in Africa?  Oh crap.
I didn't know that.
No, I didn't know that  specifically.
 But now that you say that,  yeah, that sounds about right.
And poor Ebola, that's not going anywhere.
I mean, that's just  another that's in a part of the fabric of the  society we live in.
 right.
 Avoiding people's names, as I mentioned before.
Avoid using species of animals or food such as swine flu, bird flu, or monkeypox.
 Avoid cultural, population, industrial, or  occupational references.
These can create unfair associations and stigmas.
 Historical examples are the French pox,  which was syphilis.
Oops.
 And Legionnaires disease.
I was just going to say, what about Legionnaires? We should not be using that.
No.
What is its real name now? You know what? It's still Legionnaires.
Oh.
Because I heard...
Oh, it's a long story, but people have still referred to it as Legionnaire disease.
 Um,  we should avoid sensational or fear inducing language.
I think that's a good idea.
Yeah,  probably.
Uh, the WHO recommends using generic descriptive terms such as the symptoms,  um, like such as a respiratory disease or neurological syndrome, specific descriptive terms, including information about the pathogen, the severity, the age group, or the seasonality.
 Use the pathogen name.
For example, the coronavirus disease or influenza virus.
The year of the detection slash the outbreak.
Another example of COVID-19.
Right.
Co is corona.
V is the virus.
D is disease.
2019.
Right.
Duh.
And then...
arbitrary identifiers can be used  such as letters, numbers, or more descriptive terms  if more descriptive terms are not yet available.
 It is kind of interesting though that we don't have, mean, of course we can't agree on anything worldwide, but you'd think there would be a standardized  worldwide  naming of illnesses.
 I  I know.
I'm hilarious.
 My sources were World Health Organization, the CDC, Popsci.com, American Society for Microbiology.
 Excellent.
 My Garen scale was a 10.
Yeah.
Because I think it's super interesting and super important.
And you learned it on Grey's Anatomy.
 Well, sorry.
Yeah.
 I mean, it doesn't get much better than that.
 All right.
My last search.
is Recurring Nightmare About Stepping in Dog Poop.
Yes, what in the world? Because this is, Delete This History, a poop podcast.
 That's all we ever talk about.
It's a poop World War II podcast.
You're right, it totally is.
Featuring Jon Hamm.
 Okay, so despite how it seems lately, this is not a poop podcast.
But in addition to my usual rotation of recurring nightmares about tornadoes, TV production studio jobs, being pregnant, being sprayed by a skunk, having so much gum in my mouth that I can't talk,  falling in an elevator,  not being able to find a toilet,  um...
I thought of like a bunch more after I wrote all these down.
 I  have some, it's like, I just have a playlist of recurring nightmares and they just cycle through.
That is  weird.
Last night I had the, have to pee so bad and I can't find a toilet.
And then I got a kidney infection and in my dream I had to have my kidneys removed.
Whoa.
And I was in gym class and I fell down.
Oh my gosh.
And laid on the floor.
And that's how I got medical attention.
Because it was the first day of school and I didn't want to miss school.
Oh, that's another one.
I was going to say, you're always dreaming about school.
Missing school or having to take a test that I haven't studied for.
Did you, do you have the, can't remember my combination to my locker dream.
No,  it's usually my schedule.
I don't have my class schedule.
I same.
Mine's either I don't have a schedule or I can't.
Remember my combination to my locker.
Also, I've added another new one.
Oh, pretty recently.
Do you tell and that's  being  naked or partially naked, like naked from the waist up  or naked from the waist down  and having to try to cover myself and like being at work  or around people that I know from work.
Oh my gosh.
I'm feeling exposed, I think and vulnerable.
Wow.
 So, anyway, in addition to all of those, Now I've started having a new recurring nightmare,  stepping in dog poop.
 In the dream, I can't see very well and I'm trying to navigate my way through a yard or a field that's just littered with dog poop piles  and lots of dogs too.
There's like all these dogs running around and they're all pooping and they're all stepping in their own poop and there's like no grass to step in.
 Now, this may be...
Partially because my next-door neighbor lets their dog poop right next to our house.
Yes in our side yard  and Every time I look out my bedroom window.
There's a pile of poop underneath my bedroom window.
That might be it could be I Mean, you don't have to be a psychiatrist to come up with that one.
No,  and we have to be really careful when we take out the trash But I've never actually stepped in any of those dog poop piles.
In fact, I'm you know, vigilant about it.
I know that they're there.
And so, um, I just take a shovel and fling the piles back at their house.
It's very therapeutic.
What happens when that lawn gets mowed? They just mow over it.
And it gets thrown everywhere? I don't know.
That's disgusting.
But the lawn service doesn't pick up dog poop.
Well, no.
And we have a lawn service.
in our neighborhoods.
yeah, they just run over it.
 Anyway, this is so gross.
hope nobody's  eating while they're listening to this.
 In the dream, I am panicked about stepping in the piles.
I, first of all, I can't see very well.
And so that's part of the, like, I feel really out of control and like, I don't know what's happening and I can't figure out what's happening and I don't know what I'm going to be doing.
 And I don't know where to put my feet.
 And I'm just so freaked out about it.
 so I thought, what could this possibly mean? Cause I have this dream at least twice a week.
Oh my gosh.
 So, I asked co-pilot.
Oh good.
What did it say? And it said,  These are some of the things that might be going on with me emotionally or psychologically to make me dream this.
 I may be feeling stuck or trapped.
 It may symbolize feeling stuck in a situation or dealing with something unpleasant in my life.
 I don't know if that really fits.
 Embarrassment or shame.
It could reflect feelings about something I've done or experienced.
Okay.
I don't know if that really works either.
 Neglecting responsibilities.
 I may be feeling like I'm ignoring obligations or that some aspects of my life need my attention.
 And fear of making mistakes.
I think this is what it I can  see.
The dream could represent being afraid of making a bad decision or dealing with the consequences of a big decision.
I think that's what it is.
 I was thinking it could easily symbolize the minefield  that is daily life in this country lately.
Yeah.
Cause I'm constantly braced for disaster.
I'm constantly worried about stepping in it,  you know?  And it seems like there are no good options for families like mine right now in this country.
 We're just kind of like along for the ride.
Even if you move out of the state that you're in,  yeah, you might live in a state like we do where our legislature kind of sucks.
not kind of sucks, does suck.
 Y'all are fuckers.
 And you're worried about how that's going to affect your family or whatever.
 So, you can move to a more progressive state where you  are less financially stable.
So, that's not a good,  I mean, that's a trade off right there.
 And you're still in the same country.
Yep.
So,  You're not really...
I mean, you're still at the mercy of...
Whatever.
Yeah.
But I just need to get kind of control of that attitude somehow.
OK.
I don't know how.
Let me know when you figure it out.
 If I do, I'll report back.
Thank you.
 My sources were Dream Dictionary, The Curious Dreamer, and Copilot, course.
 And my Garen scale was a seven  because  These were interesting and I liked dream interpretation and all, but  there were no like solutions.
 Yes.
 And there's nothing like where I can be like, okay, well I'll just stop dreaming about that now.
 Right.
That's the worst part about dreams.
It's just going to keep happening.
It's just going to keep happening.
Talk about no control.
 And the fact that I've talked about it so much just right now  means that tonight I will have that dream.
Of course you will.
 I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Your fit so stressed.
I just don't want to play this game anymore.
Me neither.
But Brea.
What? What about this one? What about  it? This is a quick listing of our other searches from the past week that we didn't have time to discuss in this episode or we're just too damn boring.
Yeah, boring.
That's right.
 Are you ready for this crazy list I've got? Mine is nuts too.
 Campanella pasta.
Team taco menu.
True video Honda oil change inspection.
They sent me a video.
 Oh, nice.
Like they were like, you can do this and blah, blah, blah.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
When you get worked on your car.
time it's ever happened.
It's pretty cool.
 Uh, catecholamine, catecholamine city of Springfield city manager candidates, Springfield green County library card renewal, Springfield restaurants,  uh, Starbucks blonde roast options.
Dolce de leche versus sweetened condensed milk.
 Butterscotch  sauce recipe.
Why are you doing this to me? I'm sorry.
Here's one that'll curb that radicchio.
Oh, gross.
 Zillow.
 Sheet pan dinners.
 Hoover.com.
 Missouri Department of Revenue plate renewal.
 You're kidding me.
Our van, the rocket van is up for renewal.
Alright, keep going.
Green County election results.
 And why do I look like I'm wearing makeup at home but not once I get to work?  Do you have fluorescent lighting at work? I do.
 And I also found just very quickly, it's,  it has several ideas for why that might be the case.
 But one of them was if you are dehydrated, your skin will just absorb your makeup.
 Oh, that makes sense.
was like, son of a gun.
Drink more water.
I have got to drink water, but I am also under fluorescent lighting.
I look like a goon.
 at work.
I'm just like, what did I do this morning?  All that time I spent.
 What happened between when I was in the bathroom  and I arrived at my desk? Did I go through a car wash with my windows down? Yeah.
See, that's  my favorite part about Teams meetings  is you get to see yourself multiple times a day.
 I don't know what happens.
I look okay at home.
I get to work and I'm like, this is not accurate.
 I don't understand.
I looked totally different at home.
got y'all.
I get to work.
It's like, I have no eyes at all.
Really? I don't understand it.
Anyway, I'm gonna try and drink more water.
And then I have some IMDb searches that I separated out.
Here we go.
Dunkirk.
Sean and I finally watched Dunkirk this week.
It was so good.
I'd never seen that before.
Waterworld.
Sean and I watched Waterworld.
I had never seen that movie.
How did it go? It was not bad.
Okay.
It wasn't as bad as everybody says it  is.
I should try it then.
Oh wait.
No, it's apocalyptic.
Isn't it? It is apocalyptic, but you're already in the apocalypse.
Okay.
 Woody Harrelson,  uh, when life gives you tangerines, King of the Hill, the residents.
We binged that.
It was so good.
Isn't it good? Loved it.
Shonda Rhimes.
The Warriors, Patrick Swayze, The Dressmaker.
Oh, that movie.
That movie is so good.
The book is also good, but I can't believe I'm going to say this.
I think I actually like the movie better.
If me, I love Kate Winslet.
I have watched that movie.
I don't know how many times and it's good every time I watch it.
You before or me before you.
Oh gosh, square mouth crying.
I've watched that multiple times and it's always good.
Uh, Catherine Called Birdie, Housewife 49.
Have you watched that? Housewife 49, Housewife Yes! It's good! I really liked it.
It was, I mean, it's sad.
Kind of, but at the same time...
You got, you...
It's...
I enjoyed it.
Yeah, I mean, have you ever read any of those, um, books that are compilations of World War II diaries? No, but I'm trying to find that one.
I, I, I don't know if I have...
I don't have that one.
But I have a few  of those  if you want to borrow them.
Okay.
Cause they're very good.
I would like to read them.
It's really interesting.
This was fascinating to me and well, I won't give, I won't tell people the end of it.
It's just a World War II diarist.
Like they used to  ask people to do that to document what was happening.
Yeah.
Daily life of everyday Joe.
Correct.
But that was just super  interesting.
 I watched that while I was sick in bed.
It was good.
Cinderella with Billy Porter, Gilmore Girls and something from Tiffany's.
 Those are all my IMDb searches.
Here we go.
Okay.
Mine are all mixed in.
Early bird breakfast pub menu.
 I cannot wait.
 Sleepy opossum cafe.
Fivish Finkel.
 Sorry, inside joke.
Nobody  listening is going to be laughing as hard as I am.
 I have no idea what that even means.
Fivish Finkel, he was an actor on my next search, Picket Fences.
 Picket Fences  from the  90s.
 Ronnie Corbett, comedian.
 Mad Men, Blu-ray box set.
 Expensive.
 Earbuds with tracking.
Because my kid keeps losing his earbuds.
Green County lawmakers outside of Springfield city limits.
 What are they called? Do you know? Green County lawmakers outside city limits? Yeah.
The commissioners? Yeah.
Oh, the commissioners.
Yeah.
We didn't know.
Oh, okay.
And we live outside the Springfield city limits.
So, that's right.
We need to think of Simmix lesson.
 Bacon wrapped steak filet preparation.
 Transflag.
License plate renewal, Missouri.
Oh my gosh.
 Richard E.
Grant, College Grants for Autistic Students,  the Breast Center Breast Imaging of the Ozarks.
Hell yeah.
 Latest John Hamm Minute Maid Podcast ad.
 How to Remove Gel Pen Ink from Clothes.
 Coloring.
Yep, Saved by the Bell shooting episode.
 Oh Didn't exist.
Oh, okay.
Jackie makes things up and she tells me that things happen like oh, yeah remember  there was a shooting episode on Saved school shooting episode on Saved by the Bell and I was like I don't think so and I searched and of course it said no there wasn't  Suzanne Summers, how to avoid bad THC trips.
 I think I might explore that  next week in a very special educational  Delete This History delete this THC bad trip episode  keto ACV gummies types of traumatic brain injury shooting Springfield Missouri 2025 unfortunately there's more than one  so I had to be more specific  tan mit gel pan refills you have any shout outs?  Uh, no.
I saw that Cooper Trooper messaged us through messenger.
I couldn't find it.
I couldn't either.
I tried and tried and looked and looked.
So, Cooper Trooper, we're sorry.
Yeah.
If you sent us a question or asked us something or said something super nice, we don't know what it was.
Um, email us at delete this  history podcast at gmail.com instead.
And we'll definitely get it.
 100%.
That's a great idea, Brea.
 I know.
Well, What? Are you all done? Yeah, I'm all done.
I think we should.
We're past an hour and a half on this.
This gonna take forever for you to edit.
Yeah, it is.
 And so we'll just do Mad Libs some other day.
Okay, I think that's a great idea.
Okay.
Alright, stay fish.
 Fish?  Well first, I'm gonna go delete my-  I'm gonna go delete my history.
Do that.
Then  those cheese bags should stay fresh.
 I am going into a downward spiral of speaking.
 And...
I'm just gonna say,  B'Li.
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