Yesterday was just motorcycle revving and fireworks all day long. You know, you need to research Springfield and find a community where there's nothing but old people. No, they're not good neighbors either. Why? They're quiet? We, because we had old people neighbors when we lived on a state and they're assholes. Everything is, your grass is too long and your this is too long and your that is too long and your mum and mum. But how long ago was that? You're a much older person now. That's why I fit in. Is that what you're saying? I didn't say that. I'm just saying it might be an easier pill to swallow. Welcome to episode 54 of Delete This History, a podcast by two besties of a certain age searching for answers. We're your host, Cara Burch. I'm Brea Brown. Yes, you are. I have one thing to say. What? That I've probably never said on this podcast at all, ever. What? This was the best week. It really was. I know why. Like all, well, and not just the thing you know why. Yeah? Like a whole bunch of things just. kind of fell into place to make it the best week. It was just, well, the weather. Oh my gosh. I just feel, I have felt so good this week. Mother nature heard you. It's been glorious. And said, Cara, I hear you. Oh man, I even feel lighter. Like it's been easier for me to just walk around. Yeah. I'm telling you, the weather, the humidity in Missouri, it's heavy. Yeah. But anyway, it's been an awesome week. I have felt awesome and I don't always get to say that, so I'm saying it, I'm declaring it. Amazing! This has been the best weather. Yes, it has been really. My Green Bay guests, one of them wore shorts on Tuesday. Now it was nice, like it got in what, like mid 60s, which is very nice. Yeah. So,, you know. And the offices we were working in were about 90 degrees because they were, they had Southwest exposure. That's not cool. And so by the end of the day, it was hot in those offices. Yeah. It's an old building. So, the, you know, the AC is. here, there, and everywhere, like freezing in my office. And then those two offices are boiling. Dumb. And those were the ones we were set up in because they're empty. Because nobody wants to be in the boiling offices. Anyway, so she wore shorts the second day. And then we went out that night to tie in timber. Oh, yes. Of course. And team taco. Yum. Oh my gosh. And by then it had gotten dark. So, it was cold. Yes, it has it as soon as the sun went down this week. It was just straight up cold. Right. And all of us were like, and there's two guys in our group who don't have a lot of hair. So, one had his hood up. Yes. The other one had a knit hat on and she's standing there outside of team taco. We're waiting for our order and she's standing there in shorts and a t-shirt. Oh my gosh. And I was like, how are you doing this? She's a Green Bay girl. Oh my gosh. They're just so used to it. My goodness. But, um, they loved it. They were like, Oh, this weather is gorgeous here this week. They were not wrong. Um, I have a correction and follow-up. Okay. A correction. It was either episode 51 or 52. I incorrectly named the magazine in which we will appear. I called it 417 Biz. The correct name is Biz 417. Oh shoot. I wanna make sure we get that right. Otherwise they're not gonna ask us to do the regular column in their magazine. So,. About how great we are? Yeah, well just about all the stuff we know and how interesting we are and. Sorry. So,, well I mean you've just been eating dust all week so. Oh my gosh, I sounded like a smoker this morning when I got up. I was surprised that mud didn't come out of my face. Oh, ugh. Anyway. Lovely. Okay, what's the other thing? Follow up from 52, episode 52. You and I could not remember the name of the Missouri poet laureate that we met at that book event. I thought of it later. I thought of it today. Did you? Yes. Are you ready? Yep. Wanna say it at the same time? One, two, three. Karen Krago. And I was like, I am so dumb. I mean really. You are so dumb. I mean really. She writes for the Springfield Business Journal and I read articles all week long. Yeah. And so I was looking at an article today. I was like, oh for the love of Pete, it's Karen Craig. So, sorry Karen. She's hilarious by the way. She is a funny, funny girl. Oh my goodness. And an excellent writer. I follow her on Facebook, even though I'm never on Facebook, but when I am on Facebook, I always seek out her posts because They're hilarious. She has a son named Keets. Shut up. I didn't know that. And her posts about Keets. I mean, he is a little old man. And he says, he's not little anymore. He's probably like Peyton's age. So, he's probably high school age now. But he says some old man shit. And it is funny. I'm glad we remembered. Yes. Because that's quite an accomplishment. I agree. I agree. She was poet laureate for two years. Now on to recommendations. Yes. Okay. My first one, I want to thank you for the recommendation for the, um, let's see, it was the episode of this is love with Phoebe judge. Um, that was called nurse BokHee. Oh my gosh. Yes. So, one of my guilty pleasure TV shows is Grey's Anatomy and I won't apologize for it. Hell no. Um, and nurse BokHee, I love her. She's just an extra on the show. She rarely has lines, but she's in hundreds of episodes. So, she's kind of always there. She's a nurse in a surgery room. Surgery room? Theater? Operating room? Yeah. Holy cow, thank you. But. She got interviewed on this podcast and now that I know what I know about her, I am even more in love with Bokeh. She's amazing. She's incredible. I love it. So, if you're a Grey's Anatomy fan, look up this episode because I think you told me about this maybe through a text and not on the podcast. Yes, I did. So, it's This is Love with Phoebe Judge. And the episode is called Nurse BokHee and it's only like 30 minutes. Yeah, they're not, they're not long. No, it was adorable. I love it. Love it. Okay. Now I have a recommendation for you. I'm ready. This isn't something I did. It's something I thought of. Okay. I was editing episode 52 and so I got to listen to your story again about the sinking of the ocean. Yes. And at one point you said the phrase “Moss and the magician” and I was like, that would be a great band name. Yeah. So, do you want to start a garage band? Oh, sure. No, I'm just joking. That's not what I'm talking about. What it would be a great band name. which got me to thinking about that story and I think because you love mysteries and crime so much you should take the story of the sinking of the Oceanos and write a book based on the ship the night it sank and it's a mystery like someone's murdered on the ship And so they're all like, what the crap? And so they're starting to work out this mystery. And that's the majority of the story. But then the boat starts to sink. And I mean, think of all the possibilities. So, I think I got really excited about this. This sounds like a book you need to write. I don't know. I can't write. Yes, you can. I just I think you're so into mysteries and you know how to set up, you know, how how all the things and how it gets the plotline. I could make it a rom-com. No, no, it has to be a drama. Because people are gonna, there's someone dies. I suck at it. I don't believe that for one second. That's all I do is I only write rom-coms. I know, I think you should branch out. Anyway, that's me recommending to you, Murder Mystery based on the sinking of the Oceanos. And in the book, I only have one request. Yeah. The band that is so integral to the saving of the lives of the people, it has to be called Moss and the Magician. Okay. Because I think it's a great band name. It is a really good band name. Moss and the Magician. We're coming at you live. Our music is magic. It's amazing. It'll blow your mind. And they just do, um, yacht rock covers. Yes. 100%. Speaking of Yacht Rock, I was listening to it before you got here to the library. And Cara, that song, The Glory of Love came on by Peter Satara. And I got full body chills because I loved Peter Satara's music so much in the 80s when I was little. I wanted to marry him. It was kind of like my Kenny Rogers love. Whoa. He took like, he replaced Kenny Rogers in my love head. But there was a picture of Peter Cetera on my YouTube music and on my console in my car when the song came up and I was like, he looks like the Green Goblin from Spongebob Man. He looks like Willem Dafoe. I was like, what possessed little old me, I mean little young me, to have such a crush on him. It had to have just been his music. Yes, his song stylings, his beautiful voice. Oh my gosh. And that song, I mean it was from the Karate Kid. Yes, of course. I can hear it. All the feels. I just got all the feels from that song and I was like, oh. You were swept back. I really was, it was very nostalgic. Anyway. Yacht Rock is the best. Is that one of your recommendations? When you're, when you're a woman of a certain age, just got to rock out to the yacht rock. I think you just gave me another gift idea. Maybe a t-shirt. Yacht Rock is the best. Yacht Rock rocks. Um, I do have some recommendations. So, I have three. I'll try to be fast. You take your time. My first one is “What We Did On Our Holiday.” It's a movie that stars Rosamund Pike. Oh, I love her. David Tennant. Ooh. Billy Connolly. Oh!!! I know. Ben Miller. I don't know who that is. You'd know him if you saw him. Okay. And Celia Emory. I don't know who that is. Yes, you do. Okay. Keep stirring, Una. Oh! or keep sipping the gravy. Yes. It's about this Scottish guy, Billy Connolly. And his family is coming to him in Scotland for Billy Connolly's birthday. And they have to keep a big secret, which is Rosamund Pike and David Tennant. are in the process of getting a divorce. Oh, okay. And they think that will upset Gramps. Okay. And so they don't wanna tell him. And so all the kids have to like keep this secret. And it's very upsetting to them. They keep saying, why can't we just tell Gramps? No, no, you can't tell Gramps. It will upset him. Let's just have him have a happy birthday. And then you find out that they really want him to have a happy birthday because he's not well. Okay. He's been diagnosed with cancer. And so they just, they don't want to upset him. Yes. And then calamity ensues. Okay. Very cute. And what was the name again? What we did on our holiday. Okay. Now the next, my next recommendation is the ugliest house in America slash the scariest house in America. It's an HGTV series. the ugliest house in America, but because it's spooky season, they're doing a spinoff called the scariest house in America. Now I watch it on max, but like I said, it's an HGTV show and it's kind of a, um, not kind of, it's like a contest show. Hosted by Retta. I love Retta. Oh, I do too. Oh my gosh. She's amazing. She is. And hilarious. She's very funny. And she goes around the country and looks at three houses in each region on the map. So, they'll have like, well, the regions change per season. But usually it's like a Northeast region, a Midwest region, a mountain region, and then West Coast. But sometimes Florida is its own region. And. They mix it up a little bit, but there's usually four regions that they split the country into. And she visits three houses in each region. And these people have nominated their house as the ugliest house in their region. Okay. And she tours their house and makes hilarious jokes about their houses because there are some crazy houses out there. And then each episode she tells. She, she reveals which house is the finalist in that region. Okay. Then the finalists all go on to the next round and they pick a winner from the four and the winner receives a massive redesign renovation from a big shot Chicago designer. It's super cool. Nice. $150,000. Oh dang. Home renovation. Very funny. Very entertaining. Very bingeable. And I think there are five seasons of the ugliest house in America. And then scariest house in America, they're currently in the middle of that. Gotcha. And there's a Missouri house in there in the Midwest region. And it's pretty effing scary. There are some creep-tastic houses out there like in cemeteries and things. Oh, hey. Cute. Now my last recommendation. is a book. Okay. I'm currently reading called I hope this finds you well. I had to think about it because I didn't write it down. It is an office book, like an office fiction comedy type of book. And the main character is a socially awkward woman in Canada who... I mean, I just crack up at the way she thinks about her coworkers, but you know, it's all the different coworker archetypes. Yes. But just a little twist on each one. She gets in trouble because what she likes to do after she sends an email to somebody is she writes a big rant down at the bottom underneath her signature, but puts it in white font. So, you can't see it. No. But one time she forgot to change the font to white. And she sent it. And so she gets in trouble. And an HR consultant has to come in. And she has to go through sensitivity training and some other things. But one of the rants that she wrote was so funny. She wrote the email and it was very basic, like, thanks, will do. You know, like somebody asked her to do something. Okay, sure, will do, thanks, blah, blah. Then at the bottom she said, why are you such a horrible person? Nobody likes that you cook your fish in the microwave at lunchtime. The rant was so long and it was hilarious. Now that's not the one that she got in trouble for. The one she got in trouble for was really short but something that you really would not want to say out loud. Oh my goodness. Anyway, then she gets to know this HR person who comes in yada yada. He's like, hey we're gonna have to limits on your computer because of what happened. Oh my gosh. And instead of installing these limiting things on her computer, he accidentally gives her access to everybody else's emails and their instant messages. Oh. So, she can see what everybody else is saying and emailing back and forth. Oh my gosh. And it's crazy. And a lot of it is, you know, directed at her and is mean. Oh my gosh. But she's like, okay, this is how I'm gonna, I'm gonna get the edge on these people because I'm gonna know what they're saying and what they're doing. Have you finished this book yet? Uh-uh, I'm in the middle of it, but it is so fun. I laugh out loud constantly. Oh my goodness. And I'm trying to remember the author. I Hope This Finds You Well by Natalie Sue. Okay. How hilarious. S-O-O. S-U-E. Oh, okay. Like Sue Perkins. Got it. One of our faves. That's it. All right. Those are all good. They were all good, but man, I went on forever. One question. Your first one, the movie, what platform did you watch that on? Do you remember? I believe it was Amazon Prime. Oh, okay. Prime Video. Can do, can do. All right. Well. We're not here to just keep recommending stuff all day long. I could though. I could too. I could just go on and on and on. I know. I recommend the weather, the weather, the weather. I recommend recommending. What were you gonna say? I was gonna ask you why are we here? Oh, I was gonna tell you why we were here. Oh, good. We're actually here to share internet search histories with our DTH besties and for that, we turn to The Reading of the Lists. In this segment, we tell you our top three most interesting, funniest, most successful internet searches of the week in list form. Here is my list. Number one, was Michelangelo's David bricked up during World War II? Number two, purple dye from sea snails. Number three, king cobras. Oh, why, why you make me think of snakes? Snakes and snails and puppy dog tails. I don't like them. All right, here's my list. Number one, Unabomber CIA connection. Whoa. Number two, white painted tree trunk. Number three. Karasuno Aoba Johsai. I searched that one this week too. Gosh, so weird. If you did, that would be the craziest one-brain moment we've ever had. Well now it's time to play a little game that you and I like to call, Search Me! Where we each pose one question to each other to see if she can answer based only on The Reading of the Lists. Brea, this week you got these things up for grabs. So, you'll stop beating yourself up every week. If I never see a folder like that ever again, it'll be too soon. Is this giving you some PTSD? I'm having PTSD looking at that Manila folder. I need to just shred this later, okay? As long as the paper inside of it is not dusty. It is not. It's brand new. It just came out of the package today. Thank God. It's not dusty and old. It's...printed football schedules. Oh my gosh, look at you. This is Thursday night. Yes! This is the Chiefs. And this is the Cowboys. Oh my gosh. And then you can throw all these out or you can hang them up. They're getting hung up. And just know what's happening and that way you don't go. You beat yourself up every time, every Thursday, you're like, oh, I got to look it up. So, now so stupid. You just hang them up on your fridge or wherever is convenient to you. And I don't have to say you are so dumb. You are so dumb. I mean, really. The other thing you're also getting is this vinyl sticker called, oh, it says spread happiness. I love it. So, this is what's up for grabs this week. That's so much wonderful stuff. Your question. Okay. Are you ready? Or maybe. Which of my searches came from me watching NBC's Saturday morning programming block called The More You Know? This one's a little tough. Tell the people at home what their choices are. I will do that. People at home, your choices are. Was Michelangelo's David bricked up during World War II? Purple dye from sea snails? Or king cobras? I'm going to guess purple dye fastest. Nope. You want to try again? I'm going to guess Michaelangelo’s….. I'm going to guess King Cobra's. That's it! Oh gosh… It was one of those like Saturday morning, hey kids, hey kids, come gather around. You're gonna learn something. And you were watching this? Well it's because Sean and I didn't have to go work at Roy's. So, we were relaxing Saturday morning. We slept in late, we were having some coffee and just vegging. We were talking, what are we gonna do today? It feels so good to just be sitting here. Blah, blah, blah. And so this show about king cobras came on and it was very interesting. I learned so much. Apparently. So, king cobras are the longest venomous snakes in the world reaching up to 18 feet. Oh gosh. 18 feet. You should have seen this thing slithering around. I'm gonna have dreams tonight. Like other cobras, they have a large hood that they can expand when threatened, but they also use it to communicate with other cobras messaging aggression, submission, or mating readiness. Native to South and Southeast Asia, they can be found in India, China, and Thailand. They inhabit a variety of environments, including forests, grasslands, and agricultural areas. That’s hard to say. Primarily carnivorous, their diet consists mainly of other snakes. Oh my gosh. Snakes eating snakes! Now I'm conflicted. Do you like cobras or do you hate them? I don't know. Because they eat other snakes. That's good. But they're still a snake. They are. They also consume rodents, lizards, and small mammals. King Cobras possess a highly potent neurotoxic venom that can paralyze the respiratory system. A single bite can be fatal to humans and large animals. However, they are generally shy and only attack when threatened. They can even kill an elephant. What? King Cobras are excellent climbers and can often be found in trees. You should have seen this thing climbing. It was unbelievable. I'm gonna totally have a dream about king cobras hanging from trees. Hang on, it gets better. Females typically lay between 20 and 40 eggs. They're very protective of their eggs and they're young. King cobra populations are threatened by habitat loss, poaching and illegal wildlife trade. So, then I searched why king cobras would be poached. Yeah, obviously one of the answers is for their skin. But the other is for their venom. Antivenom, right? Yes. So, venom can be used in traditional medicine, but also for the production of antivenom. So, then I searched how antivenom is created using venom. And it's created through a process called immunization. Oh my gosh. What? This involves injecting a small amount of venom into an animal such as a horse, goat, or sheep. The animal's immune system responds by producing antibodies to neural, no, neutralize the venom. Once the animal has developed a strong immune response their blood is collected and processed to isolate the antibodies which are then purified and formulated into the antivenom. The resulting antivenom can be administered to humans or other animals who've been bitten by a venomous snake. The antivenom binds to the snake venom and neutralizes its toxic effects. That is incredible to me. I mean, I've heard of antivenom, but I didn't know how it worked. And who decided to try that? Right? Who figured that out? But I mean, it sounds like a vaccine, right? Yeah, exactly. And so then I searched that process and I plugged in. Is the process of creating anti-venom similar to creating a flu vaccine per se, for instance? And the answer is yes. It's basically the same process. How cool is that? Trying to get the nasties to bind to other nasties and neutralize. That's exactly right. That's fact. Anti-venom is specific to certain kinds of snake venom. So, you can't use an anti-venom produced with keen cobra venom to someone who's been bitten by a derile snake. Correct. It don't work that way. And now I'll stop talking about snakes. My sources were National Geographic, Smithsonian Magazine, Britannica.com, the Wildlife Trust, the CDC, the Cleveland Clinic, and the World Health Organization. Holy crap. I was so into that. That's pretty cool. It was very cool. If I was into snakes, I'd be totally pumped about that. So, be pumped about this. Yeah, I get my schedule your schedules. Do you want this folder? Or do I just it freaks you out too much? Okay, I don't want the folder. Thank you too much folder I never want another folder again Cara, I got something for you. Today, you're playing for this Christmas coloring book. Oh! Now, this goes against everything I stand for. Talking about Christmas before Halloween has even passed, right? But, but there's a reason I'm giving this to you so early, if you win it, of course. Of course. Because this is... Christmas cards that you color and like Christmas gift tags that you can color. And so you will want to have these ahead of time. so that if you wanted to use them as Christmas cards or Christmas gift tags, you would have time to prepare them. I love it. These are postcards. Yeah, there's postcards. I mean, some of them are postcards. Don't you think postcards are weird? Yeah, if you think about them too much. It's like, I'm gonna write this message to my family and everyone along the way is gonna read it. I thought you would enjoy that paper crafting. I will, very much. And things. with my question. With the holidays coming up and all. OK. This has nothing to do with the holidays. OK. Your question is, which search was prompted by something I saw on TV, followed by a flashback to my childhood when a family friend had some interesting landscaping choices in their yard? Oh. Well, unless your friend was the Unabomber. He was not. I'm gonna go with white painted tree trunk. You're correct. Yeah. We had some family friends and they had all these, they lived kind of on a wooded lot and all of their tree trunks were painted white. And I never thought it was weird until I moved away and didn't see that everywhere. Because when you're a kid, whatever you experience all the time is normal. Yeah. And then I stopped seeing them. didn't think that was weird either because you just don't think about stuff like that. And then I saw something the other day, I don't even know what I was watching. And a bunch there was a wooded lot and a bunch of the trees were painted white. And nobody was talking about it. That wasn't the point of whatever. It was just there. And I was like, what? That looks like so and so's yard. And then I was like, why are those trees painted white? Do you know why? people paint tree trunks white? Well, I'm gonna tell ya. Okay. It reflects sunlight to prevent overheating and reduces the risk of cracks and splits in the bark. Really? Right? Now if I heard that from a source that wasn't reputable, I'd say you're shitting me. But it's true. It protects the tree from sun scald, keeping it healthy by minimizing damage. Does the paint not hurt the tree? I would think that it would absorb the chemicals from the paint. And usually... Let me keep going. Okay. It originates from centuries old practice by gardeners and arborists. So,, you know, they know what they're doing. Okay. And it was initially done using lime wash, lime water, and sometimes salt. So, that would be fairly innocuous. Trees that benefit the most are young trees, especially fruit trees due to their delicate bark. and ornamental and shade trees in urban areas. I have never heard of that. Have you ever seen it? Uh-uh. You've never seen any trees painted white? I don't think so. I've seen it a lot in shows and stuff on TV where they're in the city. I will have to start paying attention to that. Yeah. Huh. Here we go. Sources are woodquestions.com, chic angie.com. Oh, Angie. My friend. She was your friend. She's your house. And the yardable.com. Oh, wow. And you get that Christmas. Yay. card slash. So, excited! This is gonna be fun to pan. You want to get awkward? It's happening whether I want it or not. Well that's good because it's shared history time. So, awkward. Awkward transition. So, weird. This is where we tell our DTH besties what we searched this week, why we searched it, and if we learned anything. I learned so much this week. Me too. Is that what you were waiting for? Oh no, I was, I'm just, you know, it's Friday afternoon, I'm slow and tired. Mostly is what's going on over here. Excellent. I didn't want to miss any of my cues or anything. No, you're good. Thank you for filling the awkward silence. Dead air. Here we go. Purple dye made from sea snails. Gross. It's called Tyrian purple. It was a luxurious and highly sought after dye produced from a species of sea snail, Bolinus brenderus, around 1300 BC. The dye was extracted from the snail's hypobronchial gland, a small organ near its gills. That's what snails sound like. How many of those would you need? Well, I'm glad that you asked. I'll get to that in a minute. Okay. The color is a deep, rich purple that actually can range from a vibrant violet to a dark maroon, just depending on the snail and their glands. It was known for its exceptional color fastness, retaining its intensity even after repeated washings and exposure to sunlight. The process of extracting the dye was labor intensive and time consuming, making it a rare and expensive commodity. Massive quantities of sea snails were collected from coastal regions and crushed and the glands containing the dye were removed. The glands were then fermented in a mixture of salt and water for several days. The fermented mixture was then boiled to extract the dye, which was further processed and refined to achieve the desired color and intensity. It smelled horrible. Yes, I can only imagine. Due to its rarity and expense, Tyrian purple became a symbol of wealth, power, and social status. La dee duh. Only royalty and the very elite could afford to wear garments dyed with Tyrian purple. In ancient cultures, cherry and purple was often associated with religious and spiritual symbolism. It was used to color garments worn by priests, kings, and other important figures such as royalty like I already mentioned. And it's pretty universal in Christian churches to use purple during Lent. Correct. Which is, that's a throwback to this. Yeah. To the sea snails. Oh my, because God would really want you to crush all those sea snails. You're crushing my snails, people. Ay, ay, ay. We've always just done everything that... I mean, we're the kids. that God just is constantly being disappointed by and shaking his head. Or did God put the snails there on purpose for us to crush and use to dye things purple? Oh, geez. Chicken egg, we don't know. Okay, to your question about how many snails. Yeah. Sit back. Oh, Lord. Hold on, strap in. This is shocking information that I do think God is not approving of. It took approximately 10,000 of these medium sized snails to create one gram of dye. One gram. I double checked that in multiple sources and got the same answer. Tell me what a gram is. So, we're talking mass and not weight. So, what I found, people were comparing a gram to a paperclip, a large paperclip. or a sugar cube? 10,000 snails. Yes. For a sugar cube. Worth of dye, yes. Which is why it was so expensive. Worth it. So, today synthetic dyes have mostly replaced terian purple as a commercial dye, but it is sometimes still used in specialty applications such as the production of high-end textiles and pigments for artistic purposes. Fastback. Tyrian purple is one of the few natural dyes that can produce a true purple color. Most other natural dyes produce shades of red, Isn't that interesting? Mm-hmm. The Bolinus brandaris snail is not considered endangered today, but in ancient times the numbers were greatly diminished. No shit. It's a hot take, people. But they've bounced back well. They're okay. They're doing okay. And they are so glad that we figured out how to make that color some other way. My glands. Oh poor snails. My sources were Julian Miguel, Wikipedia, the New York Times, and National Geographic. Well that was kind of dark. It was a little dark, yes. I'm sorry. Surprisingly dark purple. Deep purple. My first search is Unabomber CIA connection. Yes. was listening to a podcast called Twisted. And they talk about all different kinds. He talks about all kinds of stuff. But mostly it's crime. in different facets of crime and law enforcement. He's a former Secret Service agent. Oh, interesting. His name is John Taylor. And he, I mean, the podcast is really, it's really good, obviously. No, it's terrible. And I listen to it all the time. But anyway, he had mentioned the CIA and Ted Kaczynski and how the Unabomber used something that the CIA did to him. as his defense when he was caught. And I thought, what? So, I will start from the beginning. OK. Ted Kaczynski was involved in Harvard's psychological experience as part of the CIA's MK Ultra project. Have you heard of MK Ultra? No. It. was kind of a big deal. Okay. And it's a big stain on the CIA. Okay. His involvement became widely known in the 2000s long after MK Ultra was exposed as a project, which was in 1975. Okay. But MK Ultra was a top-secret CIA project aiming to develop mind control techniques through various unethical experiments. Whoa. Yeah. In 1975, the Church Committee and the Rockefeller Commission investigations blew the lid off of MK Ultra. No prosecutions or punishments resulted from the investigations, however. But they were like experimenting on college kids who would volunteer for these things because they were like, you know science experiment they were probably getting paid for it yeah but they were also voluntarily or they were also experimenting on Nazi war criminals and all kinds of other people whoa like prisoners oh my gosh because they could. Um, Kaczynski specifically was subjected to severe psychological stress and humiliation as part of Henry A. Murray's experiments. I don't know who Henry A. Murray was, but somebody in the CIA, apparently. The connection between these experiments and his later actions as the Unabomber was made post-arrest. And he was arrested in 1996 as the Unabomber. MK Ultra as not just his motive for being the Unabomber, but also his defense as like a psychological, you know, insanity defense. Like those experiments made me crazy. So, they made me think that it was okay to retaliate in this way. And this was His involvement wasn't widely known until after his identification as the Unabomber. Wow. So, it wasn't like as they were hunting the Unabomber. I'm sure you remember the lead up to that. Yeah. All the pictures and everything. Sure. It's not like they knew, hey, this is a former MK Ultra experiment subject. They didn't know that until they caught him. So, did he? Did he reveal that or did they figure that out on their own? Well, I'm sure after he was caught that it all started to come to light. And I believe that he revealed it because he was gonna use it as his defense. Okay. Crazy. Wow. Isn't that nuts? That is very nuts. And you know, I don't like to be that person who's like the government is evil and they do evil things. blah, but, and I don't like conspiracy theories because they go a little bit too far, I think. But the government does some shady shit, like beyond shady sometimes. Yeah, yeah. And it's good that these investigations, like bring it to light because it ain't okay. That definitely was not okay. Why? Why would you, I would like to know their basis for mind control. What do you think you're gonna use with that? They thought that they would be able to use it then in war. Of course, it's all for this masculine toxicity. It's all for bullshit like that. It's always about that. That is nuts. So, they would, they used LSD. to make people trip out and go crazy, like have bad trips. And they would, like a lot of stuff that they used at, what's the name of that place? Gitmo. They discovered that works on people. Enhanced interrogation, MK Ultra. Wow, I didn't know that. I didn't know that there, that Ted Kaczynski was a part of anything like that. That is so- Because he was brilliant. So, then that makes me wonder, like how many people, they obviously had records. Right. They obviously have records of who they experimented on. Where are all of these people? What are they doing? Where are they at? Exactly. Like, whoa. Right. Talk about a Pandora's box. Absolutely. And talk about scary and the monsters that they've created. And then, like, you fucking created the Unabomber. So, did that defense work? I don't even remember now. No. Of course not. Wow. He recently died in prison. Yeah, I mean I knew he went to prison, but I just didn't know if that helped with the sentencing or I just can't even remember. I mean maybe it did, but I'm pretty sure he still got life in prison. I mean... I cannot remember. Maybe he would have been up for the death penalty? Oh yeah, okay. So, maybe he got a lesser punishment for it, but I don't know. But there were no repercussions. Yeah that's a problem. Yeah that's a problem, in my opinion. Ridiculous. But anyway. Geez. It's quite a vast subject. So, you can... look up MK Ultra and find all kinds of documentaries about it. Oh, okay. You can find podcasts about it. You can, I mean, and I urge people to learn about it because it's fascinating. Did you know about that before you heard it on the podcast? About MK Ultra? Uh-huh. Yes. Okay. But I didn't know about Ted Kaczynski. Okay. His connection. And KUltra. I was like, you've got to be kidding me. Wow. Huh. Wow. It kind of blew my mind. Almost as much as that Lysol episode of Stuff You Should Know. Is that something we should recommend to everybody? Yes. OK, side note. Please listen to the Lysol episode of Stuff You Should Know. Stuff You Should Know, Lysol. What is it called, the Strange Story of Lysol, or something like that? I think it was the Disturbing History of Lysol, or something like that. Hang on. She's going to look. This was called, you were right, the Strange Story of Lysol. I found it very disturbing. It was tragic. I felt just the word tragic kept coming to mind. Yeah. Wow. Holy moly. Yeah, y'all ought to listen to it. Y'all. Y'all do it. I'm gonna go cut back my kudzu and then I'm gonna listen to that podcast again. So, good, awful. It was good, but awful. Trey Crowder says, you know how, you know that this accent because he's from Tennessee. You know people think you're dumb because anytime someone tells a story with a dumb person in it, as soon as they start quoting the dumb person, they give them this accent. That's so true. Oh my gosh. Anyway, my sources for my Ted Kaczynski Unabomber CIA story were boingboing. net. Of course. Psychologytoday.com, history.com, inte Wikipedia, cia. gov. So, you know. Dang. They ain't hiding it. Wow. Because they can't anymore. Thetedarchive.com. Oh. Yeah, right? arch bigthink.com, expl bunkhistory. org. That's it. Okay, my last one. I've done a lot of World War II and World War I stuff lately. Yeah, for someone who doesn't like war. I know. It's purely accidental. Was Michelangelo's David bricked up during World War II? Well, this came from Instagram again. I was scrolling through and there was just a static photo of this, I don't even know what you call it. It looked like a giant bullet. So, imagine a bullet and it was just bricks. And it said the Michelangelo, or the David was bricked up during World War II to protect it during the bombing. And I was like, wow. How would that even protect it? It would just go through the bricks. Well, I don't know. It did. It actually was. It was actually bricked up. Did someone say, you are so dumb. I mean, really. And that's the answer is yes. So, on the Garen scale, I give this a four out of 10. Because it was a super boring answer. But I gave it a higher. higher rating because the pictures are very cool. Oh, I caught a couple to show you, Brea, so that you know what I'm talking about. Screenshot. Yes, I grabbed some screenshots. Okay. Oh, wait. So, here is where they are bricking it up. Here is after. Oh, it does look like a, well, yeah, it actually looks like a. Don't say it. I knew you were going to say that. I choose to say it looks like a giant bullet. Oh, yep. Okay, so because that was not a satisfactory answer, I thought, well, that first picture I showed you, the David is huge. I didn't know it was that big, that statue. And so, all right, get it out of your system. That's what she said. So,. I wanted to learn more about the David. Are you ready? I'm so ready. Okay, the sculpture itself is 17 feet high. Good lord. That's almost a two story building. it's huge. So, it was made that large because the niche or niche at the Florence Cathedral for which the David was commissioned was very large and the David had to be large enough to be viewed from the pews below. So, the sculpture weighs nearly 12,500 pounds. That's six and a quarter tons. Geez. And there are replicas all over the world, and one was sent to Queen Victoria in 1857 by the Grand Duke of Tuscany. The Queen was horrified. Whatever. By its full nudity. Whatever. She was a sex freak and everybody knows it. She had a fig leaf cast to preserve the modesty of the statue and to prevent the ladies of the court from fainting. Oh my gosh. This replica is still on display at the Victoria and Albert Museum in London. The lengths that she would go to hide her true self, it just always, it just never ceases to amaze me. I'm sorry. I mean, really. Really, Queen Victoria? I've got to put a fig leaf over this, because I have to pretend like this is just so shocking. The Statue of the David was originally commissioned in 1464 as part of a series of large statues for the Florence Cathedral. These sculptures were meant to be sculpted on the ground and then raised roughly 260 feet into the air and put into these niches. So, the project was originally awarded to Agostino di Tucciò. But his lack of experience with large-scale sculptures caused him to fail. Mama mia. Exactly. He carved a tall but narrow block of marble full of imperfections, tiny holes, and visible veins at the quarry. So, he was like trying to get this block out himself, and he messed it up. The quarry struggled to prepare and ship the massive block, and when it finally arrived in Florence, Duccio realized he couldn't do it and he gave up. The block of marble sat untouched for 10 years until Antonio Rossellini, Rossellino, Okay. tried to salvage the piece, but quickly agree with Duccio and deemed the marble unusable. So, the block lay outside in a courtyard for 25 years. Michelangelo finally accepted the commission to sculpt the David in 1501. He inherited the same block of marble, And some art historians believe that the slender, twisted body of the David is likely due to the shape of the marble and how it was kind of not the best. Yeah. Because the David was intended to be viewed from below, Michelangelo shunned ideal proportioning and instead carved the head, arms and hands larger than the torso and legs, creating the illusion that David is alert and poised for action. The deeply furrowed brow is exaggerated, and the right hand is larger than the left, possibly a nod to David's biblical nickname, Manu Fortis, or strong hand. This goes back to my handedness search from last week. Oh my gosh. About the right hand being stronger than the left. Meaning that you are holy or anointed or good. Possibly, yes. But if his left hand had been bigger, then that would mean he was sinister. Sinister. Like Aaron from Pennsylvania. That's right. Like Pennsylvania Aaron. That's right, Aaron. Sinister. Michelangelo chose to break with traditional art created of the David, and he captures the moment before the battle with Goliath. So, he's a little more intense. David is more intense in this sculpture. Most art depicting the battle is after it has happened and David has Goliath's head at his feet, triumphant. Right, and he's so relieved. He's relieved. He's like, oh my gosh. I did it. But if you capture the moment before, how stressed out was David? Yeah, intense. Major. Majorly. When it was finished in 1504, It took four days and 40 men to move the sculpture one mile. Oh my gosh. It was so huge and heavy. It was decided that it was too beautiful and large to be placed in the niche in the cathedral. So, it was placed in the Piazza della Signoria, replacing Donatello's Judith and Holofernes at the entrance of the Palazzo Vecchio. And it stayed there for 369 years. Holy crap. Everyone loved the sculpture. But it didn't save it from damage. During its first year in the piazza, David was hit with stones. And not long afterwards, in 1527, violent protesters rioting the rule of the Medici family flooded the piazza. A bench was thrown from a window, breaking David's left arm in three pieces. And rather than trying to carve a new arm, the pieces were reattached to the sculpture using copper nails. And the restoration was done so well, it was difficult to see where the breaks are. Wow. From the research that I did, those repairs in the 1500s, they have held and those copper nails are still holding it together. Whoa. That's amazing. David has also endured earthquakes, lightning strikes, and pigeons. During his extended time outside, at the urging of citizens and art connoisseurs, David was moved inside the Galleria del Academia in 1873. Even indoors and surrounded by museum security, David was still damaged. In a well-known 1991 incident, an Italian artist named Piero Cannata entered the Galleria with a small hammer hidden in his coat. Once near the statue, he started smashing David's left foot and managed to shatter a toe before museum visitors subdued him. Why? This is why we can't have nice things, Brea. Right? What a douche. Just like, what, why? Whatever, I'm sure he had a really great reason. Ugh. He doesn't like toes. Well, I'm with him there. I know. Today, the David is predicted by plexiglass. So, now we can't get up close to it because of this dude with a hammer. Yeah, it ruins everything. Anyway, I looked at a lot of pictures of this sculpture. I mean, obviously everyone always admires it and how it's beautiful and amazing, but this thing is seriously incredible. I looked at pictures for about 45 minutes. Especially considering that two other sculptors tried to use that same amount of, that same exact piece of marble and could not do it. Yes. And the, the perfection. Yeah. Michael Angelo. Of the sculpture. He's just like, hold my beer. It's, it's just unbelievable. Oh, so I did take one more picture, a screenshot that I can't share online cause it's, it's protected but I wanted to show you. So, here's like, that's it on display. It really is. I never realized how tall it was. Me neither. So, then here is, um, they occasionally go in and do a little restoration, clean it up. Here is a picture of a restoration. Oh my gosh, look how huge he is compared to her. Yes. Isn't that unbelievable? Wow. So, I encourage everybody to go on to, um... Gettyimages.com. They have tons of pictures of this thing and some of them are really up close. It's incredible. I would give anything to see this thing in person. Oh yeah, wouldn't that be great? That would be just amazing. Anyway, my sources were context travel.com, Instagram, Gettyimages.com, Victoria and Albert Museum, and the Galleria del Academia. Alright, my last search in shared history is Karasuno Aoba Johsai. I was driving behind a person who had two window clings on the back of their car windows. OK. One said, Aoba Johsai. And the other one said, Karasuno, fly high! Oh, OK. And I don't like not knowing things, especially things I see on stickers that people are showing out to the public. I mean that's saying something about them. Yeah. Like all the stickers on the Wokemobile, they say something about me. Absolutely. I love Patrick Mahomes. Don't mess with me in my uterus. Love wins. You matter. Something about books being awesome? I used to, but somebody, somebody ripped it off. You have to be kidding me. They tried to rip it off and then it like... Partially ripped it off of all the stickers on your car. The one they tried to rip off was books yet reading is sexy They didn't like that one And then I have a Springfield flag symbol. Oh, right, yes. And then I have a Blue Skies salon sticker. And then I have a five pound apparel sticker. I'm just. She's a sticker girl. I like stickers. And I have a couple Chiefs ones. Yes. And I just like telling people who I am with my stickers. But. I wanted to know more about this person. They took the time to put a sticker on their window and I was like, what in the hell are these things? So, I searched while I was driving. No! At stoplights, okay? Okay. At stoplights. Okay, both of these things come from an anime series called Haikyuu! Oh! With two exclamation points. What? Nice. It was based on the popular manga by Haruichi Fubuki. for Dante. We are all about foreign languages today. I know. And it follows the story of Shoya Hinata, a high school volleyball player. Yeah. Who joins the Karasuno High School Volleyball Club. Or I think it's Karasuno. Anyway, the series features intense matches, including the rivalry between Karasuno and Aoba Joe Sai High Schools. The series aired from 2014 through 2020. Now, then I was thinking, is volleyball that popular in Japan? Oh, that's an excellent question. And yes it is, especially among high school students. The sport has seen a significant rise in popularity partly due to the influence of the high-Q series. Oh my goodness! According to a survey, around 18. 1% of respondents aged 15 to 19 participated in volleyball. making it one of the most popular sports at that age. Additionally, membership in high school volleyball clubs has increased over the years. In addition to Haikyuu, Furudate also created KingKid in 2008 and Philosophy School colon Yatsuya Sensei's Ghost Stories in 2010. Now I watched a clip of this show. You did? What'd you think? There was a, you know, it's anime. Sure. So, it's a lot of ah, yeah. And, you know, like really intense, like close ups and action shots and spiking of the ball and Karasuno fly high. You know, I don't want to do the accent. That's terrible. But stuff like that. It really was like, you know, like. They were just saying their names a lot. Oh, okay. The high school names a lot through the whole thing. Like that's how they would like underscore us a spike or whatever. It's kind of like their battle cry. Yeah, yeah. Okay. It was very intense. I can't, so I've watched anime. I like some anime, not all, but I don't understand, like I'm not wrapping my mind around how interesting that could be. Well, people loved it. OK. I think it's basically like just any other kind of high school drama type of show. And instead of like Friday Night Lights, where they were football players. So, there are scenes off of the court. Oh, yes. OK. It makes me kind of curious. I might try to watch it if I can find it. I found the clip that I watched on YouTube. But it was just a clip. It wasn't like a whole episode or anything. Here we go. My sources were, oh boy, manilatimes.net, thirstatista.com, Wikipedia, Netflix, and highqfandom.com. Nice. And, this is the proudest moment of the whole week when I ask my kids, do you know about They were like, you mean like the poetry? And I said, no, the show, Haikyuu. And neither one of them knew about it. And I was like, I know something you don't know. Oh, I thought you were gonna say you were proud of them for knowing what a Haikyuu was. No. Oh. Okay. That's the kind of nerdy shit they both know. Oh, okay. Plenty of those things, yeah. Good job, mom. You're cool and hip. Hipper than they are. NERDS. But what about this one? This is a quick listing of our other searches from the past week that we didn't have time to discuss or were simply too boring to share. Oh, so boring. You're boring. Here's my list. Does Hello Kitty have a tail? Shit. Yes. Not a little girl. Emergence Z packets discontinued? I've discovered melatonin. Yes. Like I knew it was out there. I've never, but I've been having trouble. I toss and turn a lot. Like I'll fall asleep and sleep for like 30 minutes and then I'll have to turn. Yeah. Well, the other night I, I thought I was getting sick allergies. So, I took, I started to take an emergency, but then I found in the back of my cabinet some emergent Z's and I was getting ready to go to bed and I thought, Oh, I'll try this. best freaking night of sleep I have had in months. Yeah. Months. Melatonin, that stuff will knock you out. It, and it didn't like, I didn't like crash. I just went to sleep gently and I just didn't wake up. That was the most important thing. Then I woke up in the morning and I was like, I feel good. What? So, I really liked, you know, It's like it dissolves fast you pour it in some water blah well this been discontinued of course But you can find melatonin I can anywhere yes, I can so it takes it every night. I'm gonna start mm-hmm I like not waking up in the middle of the night. I used to take it often What made you stop? I just felt like I don't think I need this anymore. Okay? Yeah, and I already take enough shit Yeah, yeah, I understand. I was like I don't think I need this okay, but you know times like now. I'm like, maybe I should take some because I do I have really stressful dreams related to what's going on in life. And then also waking up. Yes, phone asleep waking up. I woke up the other night. Starting at three o'clock. I saw every half hour on the clock. Until five. When Clint got up. And I had to take him to work that day. Oh no. And so he got up at five and I crashed hard for like 15 minutes and then I had to get up and take him to work. Oh I bet that hurt. And then I had to be around people all day. So, it wasn't like oh well I'll just work from home today you know and be in the wake. Right right. Do you think you kept waking up because you're worried you're gonna oversleep because you knew you had to take him to work? Probably. Yeah that's I do that. That's just so stupid. If I know I 100% have to wake up I can't miss it. Yeah. I sleep terribly. I'm like, did I miss it? Yeah. Did I miss it? Yeah, and like he was gonna let me. Right, right. Our brains are funny things. You are so dumb brain. Anyway. I mean really. All right, printable football schedules. Yes. Low flying planes in Springfield area for next eight months. Oh God. LL Bean, a British cleaning reality show. Kim Woodburn, do you know Kim Woodburn? Okay. For King and Country Musical Group, what happened to Fun Musical Group? I know. What happened to him? Dos Equis Margaritamix. How does a snake climb a wall? Full question. Full scary question. Devonte Adams trade update. Doritos After Dark Restaurant in LA. It's a thing. Doritos has opened a restaurant. Wow. Northwest Passage Expeditions. Spirit Halloween Christmas Store spin-off. Christmas? Oh. Spirit Halloween is now opening Christmas stores in select areas. Oh. I kind of like. Oh my gosh. That's it. OK. Here's my list. Quinta Brunson, Ringworm Symptoms, Breakfront Desk, Honda Civic Windshield Replacement. Oh. Cereals with less than eight grams of sugar per serving. John Taylor Twisted podcast. Nick's underwear. I bought me some. Nausea and muscle spasms. Epistemology meaning. Oh. And. Oreo Coke. Oh my gosh. I'm not kidding. I know. Have you tried it? No. Me neither. I refuse. After Coke Spiced, they can't trick me again. Forget it. I'm not falling for it, Coke. Coke, a cola. Stay in your lane. You have the highest selling soda and line of sodas, not just Coke, but all of your sodas. in the effing world. Just be happy with that. Why? Why are you constantly trying to just do all this other weird, stupid shit? I can't even imagine what Oreo Coke must taste like. Disgusting. Yeah. Bleh. Gross. Anyway, that's enough of that rant. We should have highlighted that and turned it white. I'm so gonna do that. Oh, don't, please, I'm begging you. I won't, that's very stressful. It's very stressful. Do you have any listener shout outs? I do. I want to welcome two new listeners. Yes. Jessica W and Stephanie B. Now, I think that they just learned about our podcast this week, and I think they may be starting from the beginning. So, if they stick with us. They'll eventually hear this maybe. They will eventually hear this. So,, but I love learning that we have new listeners. I love telling people, hey, we have podcasts. And then I love seeing them get excited about it. Uh-huh. So, anyway, welcome new DTH besties, Jessica and Stephanie. We hope you stuck with it all the way to episode 54. Yes. You know, all of the DTH besties I know personally, they love to tell me how far behind they are. And they always apologize. What? I know. That's so funny. They're always like, oh, I'm so far behind. I'm like six episodes behind. I'm like, that's good. That means that you've got some backlog to listen to, so that when we get sick or we're too tired and we have to air reruns, it doesn't affect your life. That's right. I still want people, though, to rate and review us. 100% rate and review us tell your friends. Uh-huh. Please and engage with us on social media. Oh, yes, or You could email us At Delete This History podcast at gmail.com Yes, and if you go on Instagram and threads look for us at DTH gals or Facebook Delete This History Facebook is so cool Yeah, and while you're there look up Karen Craig. Oh, yeah, there's a report poet laureate We've got another one in the books. We do. And I'm going to go delete this week from my mind. Yes. And delete my history. I'm going to do that too, and I'm going to enjoy the weather while I do it. I think I'll open the window and delete my history. Whoa. Throw your history out the window? Throw it out the window into this cool, refreshing air. All right, stay fresh, you cheese bags. Bye. 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