I really miss football when it's not football season. To the point that we get halfway and I'm like, oh my gosh, it's already week 8. How did this happen? I'm more precious about football season going by than I am about my children growing up. It says everything you need to know about me as a mom. Love you kids! With you the sun is shining 24-7. Cause when we're together, it feels like we're in heaven If it will get dark, you'll be my million stars I know I can lean on you Welcome to episode 49 of Delete This History, a podcast by two besties of a certain age searching for answers. We're your hosts, Brea Brown. And I am Cara Burch. Yeah. Hi. What's going on? Oh, you know, almost died. Mm-hmm. That's about it. Yeah. How about you? Um, just worn out. Oh, yeah. You know, just So, you're already dead. Still. Dead tired. Yeah. It's been an interesting few weeks. I'm sick of it. Man ever since memorial. Nope, that's not it. That was back in May. That would be a long time. Ever since Labor Day. I've had a rough go. Everybody healthy again? Um, yes. Is Jackie better? Yes. Okay, good. Everybody got over it much faster than I did. Of course. Cause you were worn out from taking care of everybody. Right, I wasn't allowed to rest. Yay! Yay, being a mom is the best. Oh man. But the circus never came to pick me up. Dang it. I know, I kept calling them and saying, when are you coming to get me? Anyway, I have some bookmarks. Let's hear about them. All right. Now, a lot has happened since we last recorded. That's the truth. But I had to pick just two things. Okay. First, this is so old, everyone's gonna laugh at me and be like, where have you been? But the show baskets. Have you watched it? Yes. Okay. I love that show. I resisted that show for forever. Yes. Because everybody talked about it and everybody talked it up and I was like, it can't be as good as all the hype, but it really is as good as all the hype. And so I've been binging baskets and it is hilarious and also depressing. I know. How is that possible? But funny. Yeah. So, I'm on season two now. Okay. And I just started season two. I got like through the first episode and it is, it's just hilarious. I love it. Um, so if anyone else out there has been resisting watching baskets, stop fighting it. Just watch it. Just do it. Yeah. You won't be sorry. Nope. Um, his mom, oh my gosh, Louis Anderson is Incredible. I just I'm starting to laugh just thinking about. One of my favorite things is when she's got the Dasani that her twin sons brought home, her adopted twin sons, and she's drinking it. She's like, Oh, this water, it's just so robust. Isn't it robust? Oh my gosh, his twin brother. Oh, yes. Yeah, it's pretty fun. It's good. And then my second thing is now a lot of people do spring cleaning, but I do fall cleaning. Yes. Fall is the time of year for me when everything feels fresh and new and... because things start to cool down. It's back to school time. I usually get kind of jealous of all the new stuff that my kid gets to get for back to school. And so I do a lot of like cleaning out, reorganizing, purging, stuff like that in the fall. And so my next bookmark is a decoration refresh. Because it's time to get out the fall decorations. Yes it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So, if you've put stuff in storage and you haven't seen it in a while, just pull it out. It doesn't have to be false stuff. Just different, just do different things. It makes you just feel so invigorated and it makes everything feel new again. And like, like you can get through life and don't have to run away with the circus. This is going to sound silly, but in that same vein. I got my fall soaps from Bath and Body Works in the mail yesterday. And I got so excited. I was like, I'm going to go get these, I'm going to put them away and organize them. Which one am I going to use first? And like I picked which one I was going to use first and it smells so good. I think it's called something like... crispy fall morning or it's something about fall mornings. Yes. It smells so good. And so I got, I got that much like a refresh of all my fall soaps are here. I got some, um, decor. Now I'm not a big, you know how I'm not a big Halloween person, I know, but I found some stuff at Michael's that's not like kitty Halloweeny, like orange and. you know, black and all that stuff. It's like really gothic. And I got this Edgar Allan Poe head that's like a vase. Oh! And I put these, they're fake flowers, but I put these silk flowers in there and they're like dark purple, like purplish black. Yes! Yeah, and then I've got his little typewriter sitting next to him. Aw! It has the raven in there. Aw! And something else. I love that. Oh, I got a cat picture and I hung it on my door. It's a black cat and he's really creepy. And then I got these little teeny tiny framed pictures that are holographic. So, when you turn them, like you look at them straight on and they look normal. It's like they're like Victorian family pictures. Oh, of course. And then when you turn them, they turn into like zombies or they turn all gross and like, they look like corpses. They're amazing. That is right up your alley. Yes. So, I got, and then I got a sign that says Salem, Salem apothecary. And so, so I got a bunch of like Halloweeny kind of things that I like. Yeah. Good for you. That are morbid. Okay. Yeah. So, those are my bookmarks. Yeah. Um, well my bookmarks are, I only have two. The first one is the blue diamond blueberry almonds. Oh yeah. That you offered up as my prize in episode 48. They were good, eh? They are so good that I think I'm going to make those a regular treat in my life. Oh. I loved them. They were delicious. They were kind of like cinnamon almonds, which I also really like. Yeah, like with that dust on them. Yes, it was just a little bit different. Oh, they were good. I killed those things. I'll have to get some for myself. You should. At the gas station. Yeah, when you go hang out, let me know and I'll come with you. My second bookmark is Wyatt Earp and the Cowboy War. on Netflix. I don't know if y'all enjoy westerns or not. Sometimes. I enjoy a good western once in a while. Yeah. Now I love Tombstone. Of course. Which is why I was super interested in this. And if you like the movie Tombstone, you will love this. This is a documentary. It's excellent. So, here's a synopsis for you. I'm ready. The legendary feud between Wyatt Planton unfolds through vivid reenactments in this greedy docudrama about the gunfight that defined an era. So, they kind of set it up in the beginning that you think the story ends at the okay corral, but actually that's where it just begins. Oh my gosh. So, they know how to hook people. Yeah, it was. It's six episodes long. Oh, excellent. You got to tuck in. It's narrated by Ed Harris. He does a great job. And I just really liked it so much. The acting was excellent. It's not a cheesy reenactment. I mean, it's really good. It's like movie quality. Yeah. The only thing I didn't like, that I will say, is that part of the script that Ed Harris reads includes the phrase, let me explain. So, he'd say like, ABC, one, two, three, blah, blah. Let me explain. I'm like, dude, it is a documentary. All you're doing is explaining. So, Boo on whoever was, um, editing the script. Who wrote that? I do not know, but it's all, it's throughout all six episodes. Oh yeah. I bet he says it maybe two to three times each episode. Let me explain. Oh no. They were like, this is, this is it. This is the catchphrase for this series. Check it out everybody and then let me explain and everybody around the table just went Okay But let me explain Why this is such a great little free feel so Contrived yes, and it's just like oh why But other than that it's a really great docu-series, okay, Netflix has been recommending it to me You should watch it. Cause I watch all that kind of crap. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You will love it. Yeah. Okay. That's all I have in terms of bookmarks for the week. All right. Well, we're not here to gush about documentaries and things that we watch on TV. That's true. But we are here to let me explain. And we are also here to share our internet search histories with our DTH besties. Yes. How are we gonna do that? We are gonna do that The reading of lists. In this segment, we tell you our top three most interesting, funniest, most successful searches of the week in list form. Here's mine. Number one, low cards principle. Number two, Kelsey haircut slash my buddy doll. Oh. Number three, melungeons. I just want to say real quick. Yeah, I'm glad you brought up the haircut because it's something that has to be discussed Oh, we will be discussing it. I'm so Alright buddy Okay, here's my list. Are you ready? I'm so ready number one eye movement desensitization reprocessing number two high pockets meaning number three the history of booing Boo. So, now it's time to play a little game we like to call Search Me! where we each pose one question to each other and see if we can answer based only on The Reading of the Lists. Game time. Now I know last time we met, it was ages ago. It was a long time ago, but I gave you food. and I'm giving you food again. That's okay, I have no problem with that. But it's so good, it's going to rock your world. Oh! It is the Cinnamon Toast Crunch Creamy Cinnamon Spread. What? It's kind of like Nutella. Yes? Or any kind of nut butter, but it's cinnamon and sugar, it's just straight up sugar. Oh my gosh. You're not eating sugar, are you? It's like butter. Sometimes every once in a while I looked at the sugar content of this and I, I like do a teeny to teeny teeny. I don't even do like a whole serving. I just do a teeny tiny bit and I just kind of like glaze it on top of a bagel. Yeah. That's amazing. Yeah. So, it's saying toast bagels or sliced apples. That's a brilliant idea. It's really good on sliced apples. Okay. What is my question? I'm excited about that. Okay. Here we go. Okay. Which search proved to my family that I am a genius when it comes to making pop culture connections. Oh, for those at home playing along. Here's my list. Low cards, principle, Kelsey haircut, my buddy doll, or three Mellungians. Pop culture. It's gotta be Kelsey Haircut My Buddy Doll. It is. We were watching football. Naturally. Duh. It's that time of year. And we were laughing at his haircut because it is so terrible. It is so bad. And I think every year he just tries to see how silly he can look. I think so too. I hope so. Yeah. And he's paired it with that ridiculous mustache. Okay. So, I said, take the mustache off and he looks like a my buddy doll. And my family was like, what? What are you talking? Well, first of all, my kids had no idea what I was even talking about. Oh my gosh. And then Clint was like, no, he doesn't. Blah, blah, blah. And I was like, fine, whatever. So, I pulled it up and I showed them all the picture and I said, that is a My Buddy doll haircut. Yeah, did they agree with you? Yeah, then they were like, oh yeah. Do you know the song? My buddy, my buddy, wherever I go. He goes, my buddy, my buddy, I'm gonna teach him everything I know. Oh my gosh, see I don't even remember that. From, nope, that's the Toys R Us song that I'm getting now. I'm starting to mix them from bikes to trains to video games. It's the biggest toy store. Anyway, my buddy and me. So, when Sean and I are mad at each other or we're trying to get on each other's nerves, we'll sing my buddy. Because it gets, it's an earwig. Oh, my buddy, my buddy and me. It really is. And we call Tony, sometimes we call him buddy. Yeah. And so then it gets started easily. The other thing, the other song is hot dog, hot dog, hot diggity dog. You never even had kids, how do you know that song? Well, because I have nephews. Oh. We're obsessed with. Mickey Mouse Clubhouse. Was that the Clubhouse? Yeah. Hot dog, hot dog, hot diggity dog. So, that's how I get Sean back. If he sings my buddy, I sing hot, and then he'll say, why do you hate me? I like to sing What Does the Fox Say. Oh, that's a great song. That's one that really and then. Yup. Uh huh. And Baby Shark. That's another good one that makes people want to kill you. Remember, now this is a long time ago. Yeah. This was at the TV station. Uh huh. Oh gosh. Here we go. I know what it is. Is it peanut butter jelly time? Oh, no. Oh, that's another one I do. No, that is a good one, though. I was directing one day and I will get Chitty Bang stuck in my head. And we were in the middle of a package or whatever. It was like three minutes long and I could just hear Chitty Bang Bang, Chitty Bang Bang. We love you. And so I just started kind of doing that into the headset. Yeah. And Gary said, Don't you sing that damn song? I was like, near, far, in a motor car, what a lovely time we'll have, bing bing, titty bing bing. He hated that song, and so I sang titty bing to him. Nice. And it got stuck in his head. I love titty bing bing. I can't say the words peanut butter and jelly without singing peanut butter jelly time. Of course not. Ever. Of course not. And if somebody else says it to me, then I always have to sing it. Hey-ya, hey-ya, hey-ya. Way yet, way yet, way yet, way yet. That's right, it was way yet. No, I think it was. It's hey yet and then way yet? And then I think so. Oh, okay, see. We better look it up so we know for sure. It's just, it has so many depths to it. It is, levels. Yeah. Lots of levels. Okay, so that was really it. There's not really much to say about Kelsey's haircut except that it's terrible. And it makes you sing the My Buddy song. And You are a pop culture genius for pointing that out because I never would have put that together. I was just like it immediately just hit me. It's hilarious. I make connections like that all the time and everybody in my family is always like what are you talking about and then I have to prove it. I always have to look it up and show them a picture and say see. Someday when you and I have our adjoining duplex it will be totally different and when you say Travis Kelce looks like my buddy I will be like Oh, you're absolutely right. He does. And then we'll cry and pee in our pants because we're laughing so hard. And it'll be a great old time. Yeah. You'll have a gay old time. Oh no. Yep, that's another one. That's it. Yay! You win. I kinda wanna open this right now. I'm gonna do it. It's sealed. Okay, I'll open it later. Foiled again. Get it? Literally! I'm ready for mine though. Okay, so you and your family have been very sick for a couple weeks. Yes. And... COVID people. It's out there. It don't mess with it. It will, it'll mess you up. If you happen to start to feel bad again, all you have to do is drink this. No, don't drink it. I'm just kidding. Lavender vanilla antibacterial hand gel. Yes. Now don't take offense. to me giving you that. I'm not saying, hey, Brea, you should wash your hands once in a while. What I'm saying is this is an added layer of protection to your already clean routine. I have some of this. I don't doubt that. Not this flavor. I'm gonna say flavor. Not this flavor of hand gel. Well, it is flavor if you drink it. I have the eucalyptus spearmint one. That's a good one. That's my favorite. That one. But this one smells super good. Yeah, I thought you would like that one. So, anyway. Okay. That is perfect to keep you healthy. Everybody should have like seven of these on them at all times. Absolutely. Then we can all become antibiotic resistant. Right. Exactly. So, then we catch everything. And then we can pollute the water as well. I just want to get ahead of that. I want to get ahead of people saying that about antibacterial hand gel. Am I not supposed to be using that? Well, sorry folks, when I'm out in a restaurant, yeah, I'm going to use it. I'm going to use it. Yeah. Okay. Uh, your question is, which of my searches was triggered at work when I expressed my opinion in a less than professional manner? Oh no. Now for those of you playing at home, here is my list again. High pockets definition, the history of booing, and eye movement desensitization reprocessing. I'm going to say reacting unprofessionally sounds like the history of booing. That is correct. Excellent. Eye booed. Who'd you boo at? My boss. Oh. We were just talking about something that we should be doing and I said, a boo. Boo. There are lots of things in my job description that I should be doing that I right. Either do kind of halfway or just kind of like, oops. Well, I feel like when we can just keep the bare minimum maintenance done, right. Then we'll do the things we should be doing. Correct. Yeah. He's a, he's a go getter. Well, maybe he needs to add that to his time. He's got less time than I do. Well, then I guess. That's the answer. At some point you just got to say, I can't, we can't. Right. There are only so many hours in a day. And there are only so many people. Correct. And it keeps getting smaller and smaller and smaller. At every workplace, it seems like. Oh, I think that's true. Yes. Well, do you want to know about the history of booing? I do. Well, I hope you don't get too excited because there's not much to say. It can apparently be traced back to the ancient Greeks. Those crazy kids. Those crazy kids who had to express their opinion verbally with sounds and snaps and whistles. They were like audio emojis. Yes, exactly. They were ahead of Google. They were. So, some scholars believe that this dates back to the festival of Dionysia. When audiences would voice their opinion about plays. So, this festival was all about putting um, tragedies, comedies. And so they would use shouts and whistles. And some think that that's where the booing came from. Okay. Other, um, people say that it actually didn't appear until the early 19th century describing the sound made by cattle. Oh, like moo and boo. Okay. And then I found another source that say that says it originated in Scotland in the 18th century. There's no way to know. I didn't know. I don't know. Who knows when booing became commonplace? We don't know. I don't know. My mom used to always say, and she got it from my granny, boo hiss. Oh, yes. She would never just say boo. It was always boo hiss. Well, this was a disappointing and dissatisfying search. So, what I did was I asked Google Gemini to give me examples of famous booing incidents. Yes. They were almost exclusively sporting events. This is what AI is for. So, here we go. You know what? I should have put Travis Kelsey's picture into AI and said, what doll does this look like? Oh, you're right. It might've come out with Chucky too, but I think it would've come up with my buddy. And then I would really have been proven right. And I would say, see, even AI thinks so. The robots agree. Well, I only listed a few. OK, these are all just sporting events? The first part is, yes. The Philadelphia Eagles fans booed Santa Claus and threw snowballs at him at a game in 1968. Snowballs with rocks in them. That's awful. No, they were just icy snowballs, I think. There was a huge snowstorm the night before, I guess. It was dangerous. It was really bad. Yeah. Another one is race car driver Emerson Fittipaldi was booed. after he drank orange juice in the winter circle instead of milk in 1993 Indianapolis 500. I remember that. I do too. In fact, when I read the name Emerson Fittipaldi, I was like, whoa. As soon as you said it, I was like, oh my gosh, I could see him. I know. Yeah, yeah. Now, how come I have a hard time picturing my dad sometimes when I try to remember my dad, but I can remember what that jack-off looks like. That is not fair. Okay, Russell Wilson was booed at his first game back at Lumen Field as a Bronco after being traded from the Seahawks. Oh. The 2001 Super Bowl halftime show with the Worbdrobe malfunction. Oh. There was some booing going on there. Really? Apparently, according to AI. Boo. No, they were saying booob. They weren't booing. Oh, yeah. Stupid AI. Booob. I'm sure that's what it was. I'm sure you are too. Totally. Oh my gosh. Yao Ming was booed during the 2009 NBA playoffs after he suffered an injury. Oh my gosh. I think that is the meanest thing. Well, that's like when they cheered when Matt Kessel got hurt. Remember? And he was like knocked out on the field and he was laying there and they were cheering. It's really wrong. It really hurt my soul. Well, I don't. Yeah, I told him it was okay and I gave him a big hug and a kiss. Yeah when we met up later That's nice. It was made him feel sweet moment At the 2014 World Cup Brazil booed its own team after they fell behind one to zero. Oops So, then I got sick of reading about sports Yeah, and I told Jim and I to find non sporting event booing incidents and then they were all about politics Every one of them. So, then I typed in I told it to exclude politics and sporting events and here's what it came up. Oh gosh, this is going to be good. It was like you could feel it going hmm. I don't know. Where else do people boo? I'm going to look around for this one. It is traditional at public viewings of the Rocky Horror Picture Show for audience members to boo at certain characters. Oh, yes. OK. And the other one was it mentioned the booing scene in The Princess Bride. Do you remember that part? Yes. Boo. The Queen of Refuse. The queen of garbage! The queen of putrescence! Yes. Filth, slime, muck! Yeah. I could go on and on. You know it. I have seen that movie a few times. I have too. It's been a long time though. I've also read the book. Have you read that book? Uh, I've tried. Oh, you didn't get through it? I did not enjoy it. Oh, I really liked it. You know what that reminds me of though? What? We have a booing tradition in our friend group. What? We do. Yes, when we watch Love Actually. Yes. And the terrible long necked character who tries to get Alan Rickman to cheat on his wife with her. On sweet Emma Thompson. Yes. when she shows up the first time, we always say boo. And we call her slag. We call her very politically incorrect. I mean, terms having to do with women who get paid to do things. But she deserves it. She is a home wrecker. She is. And she doesn't care. No. She just wants that ugly ass necklace. She does. Just give me the necklace. I want something I want, not something I need. Eww. Boo! Boo, you're terrible. My sources were. Google Gemini, the boo birds.com and Wikipedia. This is awkward. When you and I tried to say shared history together in our last. Oh, it was so awkward and delightful. It just didn't work out. But I thought it was great. It made me laugh. It was the epitome of what this transition is all about. It was a good example. Yes. Anyway, it's time for shared history. Shared history. That didn't work. You said it so fast. Where we tell you, our DTH besties, what we searched this week, why we searched it, and what we learned. If anything, I learned some things. I did. I totally did. The first thing I'm going to tell you about learning was, is, was, melungeons. Yes please. I was watching one of my favorite YouTube channels, Not Cleaning. It has nothing to do with time-lapsing. It's I needed to change a pace. Okay, you can only watch so many dirty toilets be cleaned and then you just need a break It's a channel called the Appalachian Storyteller Oh And he's got this great Tennessee accent and soft voice and he doesn't say let me explain. Oh good Yeah, he just tells great stories about the people and the legends of Appalachia And there's some interesting stories. Oh, yes So, one of his videos is about non white people who settled in Appalachia. And they were called are called because their ancestors are still there. Although in much smaller population, Melungeons. Okay. Now I know about the blue people of Kentucky. Do you know about the blue people of Kentucky? No. They have, um, a genetic condition where their skin is literally blue. Oh my goodness. You should look it up. Okay. I don't know enough about it to like, just talk about it off the cuff intelligently, but I have seen stories on the Appalachian storyteller about it. Oh my goodness. And there's actually a book that I read one time where they had like a library, it was fiction, but one of the characters in there was one of the blue people. Oh, okay. They're not called blue people, I'm sorry. I don't remember what. but they're from a family line who has this genetic, I don't even know if it's a disorder or if it's just a condition, whatever. They're blue and some of them are real blue. So, interesting. Yeah. Okay. I'll look it up. Who are the Melungeons? Who are they? They are a group of people with mixed race ancestry. Primarily found in the Appalachian region, especially along the Tennessee Virginia border. And historically, the term melungeon was used as a slur. Okay. So, before we go any further, I want to talk about that a little bit. Okay. Because it has a complex history, and it was historically derogatory. Okay. But many of the descendants have reclaimed the term, and now they use it with pride. So, it's kind of like the term queer. You know, you, you take it back, and you make it your own and, and whatever. But not everybody. is okay with it. Okay. And so you have to be kind of like, if you're going to talk to somebody who has this ancestry, you kind of have to know how they feel about it before you would actually call them that. Makes sense. Yeah. Now, moving on, the historical background is that the term emerged in the early 1800s. And it initially described about 40 families of mixed race, mixed race ancestry. They had roots tracing back to free people of color and white settlers from colonial Virginia, Tennessee, and North Carolina. In the modern world, recent DNA studies have aimed to uncover the origins of the Melungeons because they think that they are also descendant from people who came up from South America. Okay. So, it's not just African descent. It might be South American descent as well. Okay. So, they're doing some DNA studies to. figure that out. Oh, that's cool. And they have focused on families historically identified as Melungian in records from the 1800s and early 1900s. And now the term encompasses various groups with mixed race backgrounds. Oh, interesting. Yeah. I really recommend that channel, the Appalachian Storyteller. And I really recommend that particular video if you're interested, diverse, culturally diverse. So,, yeah, I thought that was interesting. Now, my sources were gene Deseret.com, Wikipedia, newsletter.com. I know, I was shocked. Jstore. org and AlexBloodSew.com. They have a blog when they talked about it. lots of different places to get information, but super, super fascinating. It is fascinating. You know, I think that region is fascinating. It is. Um, I would like to know more about it. It's such a beautiful place and it just seems like untouched by time. Like you, even if you go to somewhere like Gatlin Berg, I mean, how populated and commercialized that is yeah even there you just go maybe ten minutes away from town and you just feel like you are in the middle of like what it must have looked like when Davy Crockett was walking around it's so pretty yes it is very pretty all right good search thanks first one I'm gonna talk about is high pockets meaning I cannot wait so Sean and I watched another series that was set in 1971 and it's called Dark Winds. And it's kind of a mystery thriller, but then also a little bit of a, just a teeny bit of supernatural element to it. The main character is the head of the Navajo Tribal Police. And... Yes, I've seen this. I mean, not watched it, but I've seen it. recommended to me. If you like Wyatt Earp and the Cowboy War, you should watch this. Okay. Because it's also Western. But what I really liked about this is because it's set in 1971, there are no cell phones. Yeah. And so it's just old school. Yeah. And incredibly good. It's, it is the executive producers were Robert Redford and George RR Martin. Oh my goodness. I know. They had me. at those two names and I was like, I'm in. Also, George, finish your books. George, I'm okay with you not finishing your books. I understand. So, the main character, there is a murder and it happens on tribal land, but the FBI gets involved. And so when the FBI agent shows up, the main character calls him, hey, high pockets. Hello, hi pockets. What? And so, and that's what Sean and I were like, what does that mean? So, I found several definitions. Okay. The last definition I give you will be the one that- Fits the show. Exactly, thank you. So, sometimes it's used to describe a very tall, thin person. So, their pockets are high. Okay. In the 60s, high pockets was a derogatory term that referred to the early World War II generation, when men in a position of power had a tendency to wear extremely high-waisted pants often pulled above the navel. Oh yes, I can picture this. My grandpa. Uh-huh. He fits that. Mm-hmm. He had some high pants. Yeah. Well, if you watch anything like... even like Mad Men and stuff like that. Yes, they still wear their pants real high, very high. However, in the show Dark Winds, the lieutenant called the FBI a hop pocket pocket. No, the lieutenant called the FBI agent high pockets, meaning that the agent had a position of high standing, but was completely undeserving for reasons of incompetence. ineffectiveness or a broad ignorance of subjects that are the core of his responsibilities. Oh yeah, I could see that. He comes onto, you know, a reservation and he's like, I'm gonna fix all this and get the heck out of Dodge. But he was worthless. Of course. I told Sean, I was like, oh, I have a new nickname in my vocab. Do you have some people in mind? You don't have to say it on mic. Absolutely. That's basically it. This was a very short. It's so funny to hear different things that culturally were just kind of part of the vernacular. Mm hmm. Not. I mean, I guess that was a long time ago. But not that long ago. It's not like Victorian era or anything. But I mean, you know, and that have fallen so far out of fashion that we just don't even know what that means anymore. It's like, well that was in our lifetime almost. Sean and I both looked at each other. Did he just say high pockets? And then he had a sidekick later on and he goes, Hey, high pockets. And then the next guy walks in and goes, Hey, low pockets. Nice. It's a really good show. You guys should watch it. Okay, I'm going to. It was given me in Longmire vibes and I was like, oh lord. Now it does have Longmire vibes and I know that you think Longmire was cheesy and it was a little cheesy. This is a very good show. Okay. I think that you will enjoy this. I liked that Longmire reminded me of my dad. Okay. Like that character. I liked his character and the show just as a whole was just so cheesy. My sources for that were Rotten Tomatoes, Google Gemini, and IMDB.com. All right. My second and final Search of the Week is Low Card's Principle. Oh, yes. OK, this is about forensics. Oh, yes. Yay. OK, it's actually called Low Card's Exchange Principle. And it is a fundamental concept in forensic science formulated by Dr. Edmund Locard, a pioneer in the field way back in the day, in the late 19th and early to mid 20th century, who said, wherever he steps, whatever he touches, whatever he leaves, even unconsciously will serve as a silent witness against him. It's kind of like witness marks. Witness marks! But human witness marks. Oh. The basic idea is every contact leaves a trace. OK. Which is true. Yeah. We have learned this in everything that we watch nowadays that has to do with forensics. It's very difficult, even with gloves on. I mean, you'd have to be in a full body condom, basically, not to leave a trace. And even then. Maybe someone that latex would rub off and they'd be like, what's all this latex all over the place? Whenever two objects come into contact, there is an exchange of materials between them. Sometimes it's completely undetectable, but there's always some kind of trace of materials or an exchange. So, this principle is used to gather evidence at crime scenes. Duh. For example, a criminal might leave behind fingerprints. hair fibers, other fibers, carpet fibers sometimes, or other trace evidence, and might also take something away from the scene, like soil on their shoes, or fibers from the victim's clothing. Man, I can't tell you how many date lines I've watched where they've found something on the person's shoes or on their tires, and they're like, that dirt is from where we found that body. Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I saw one thing recently. And they had figured out through DNA that where this person's body had been deposited, that this guy was the killer because he had one of these pine needles in his car and it matched the DNA of the tree that she was next to. Oh my gosh. They did DNA analysis on a tree. The tree's just like, I'm just standing here. I had nothing to do with it. I didn't say anything. That's right. You didn't say anything. Wow. You are an accessory. Please, I've got a family. I've got little cones I got to take care of. Anyway, so the importance, obviously, is with evidence collection. Forensic investigators rely on this principle to collect and analyze trace evidence, which can be crucial in helping to solve murders or crimes. Not always murders. I just always just think about murders. Murder. Murder most foul. Trace evidence, no matter how small, can tell a story and provide factual information that human witnesses might miss or forget. Now, in modern forensic science... The Low Card's principle underpins the collection of trace evidence at crime scenes, which we already talked about. Modern forensic techniques such as advanced microscopy and spectroscopy build on Low Card's principle to analyze trace evidence, and DNA profiling is also a direct application of Low Card's principle. Oh, okay. Here we go. When you come in contact with another person, when one person loves another person and they get together, they can leave behind DNA evidence such as skin cells, hair, body fluids. DNA profiling allows forensic scientists to identify individuals with high precision, making it a powerful tool in criminal investigations. Now you can also have secondary transfer. This is a principle that highlights the importance of understanding secondary DNA transfer where DNA from one person can be transferred to another person or object indirectly. So, I could have like one of Peyton's hairs on me and go to a crime scene and do something bad and drop one of his hairs at the crime scene. And that would be secondary transfer. Yes. Not good. Then he'd be like, I've never been in that house. Then how do you explain your DNA? Well, I shed a lot and my mom probably hugged me. You know, something like that. Some practical applications outside of crime scene investigations. Oh, forensic databases, modern technologies, such as automated fingerprint identification systems, APHIS. to those of us in the know, and DNA databases like CODIS enhance the ability to match trace evidence to specific individuals. So,, Locard's exchange principle, as simple as it is, I mean, it was revolutionary for its time. We kind of take it for granted now, but it's still a cornerstone of forensic science. You leave part of yourself and you take something away. at every encounter. So, that's it. That's cool. Yeah, I thought that was pretty cool. What a, what a badass guy. Yeah, he is smart. He was like, Hey, you got these skin cells and they come off. I'm gonna leave me here. I was here. You don't even have to like carve anything on a tree. Shake a leg. Just shake a leg. Especially in the winter time when you're really dry. And also now, um, with the advancement of familial DNA and all of these databases that are coming in, yes, genetics and ancestry databases. I'm sorry, but if you've committed a crime and you have not been found yet. And you've gotten away with it for a lot of years. Your time's coming. I've always wondered how those databases work. Like, can the police access those? Are they allowed to? I mean... A lot of times you have to have a subpoena. Okay. But some of those databases, they are upfront with the people who use them. Oh, interesting. That's part of your terms of service. Oh, okay. When you sign up to say, hey, I want you to investigate my ancestry, here's my DNA. they tell you this may be used by third parties. Oh. And if you got nothing to hide, and most people don't, most people are like, I'm cool with that. And then it comes back and you got a cop on the phone saying, hello. You got someone in your family you might need to talk to. Oh my gosh. Well, between that and social media facial recognition, good luck killing me. We're going to find you. That's right. Damn it. The golden state killer was one of the very first cases where they used that. Okay. To nail him. Wow. No, he's all, I'm so frail. Whatever him and Weinstein get off my planet. No, my sources were forensichandbook.com Wikipedia, thel Oxford reference.com the National Institute of Justices Office of Justice programs. Whoa, whoa I'm glad I don't work there simply forensic calm criminal legal news org and uncovered calm my Goodness, they all love low card. They're like, he's the man. Okay My last search is a little bit lengthy. All right. But it's totally worth it because it's about brains and it's fascinating. I can't wait to talk about this. So, eye movement desensitization reprocessing. So, I'm not going to continue saying that, so I'm gonna say EMDR. Okay. All right. EMDR is a mental health therapy method that treats conditions that occur because of trauma. It's best known for treating PTSD, but its use is expanding to include treatment of other conditions like depression, bipolar disorder, psychosis, substance abuse disorder, and anxiety disorders. So, what is EMDR therapy? It involves dual attention stimuli by having the person participate in bilateral movements while talking about a specific memory. This helps desensitize the traumatic memories and minimize symptoms. Examples of bilateral movement include following repetitive hand motion. So, like if I'm the therapist and you're the client, you would be thinking about a traumatic thought and I would say, okay, watch my hand. And you would watch my hand and for a specific amount of time, depending on the therapist, you could also use a light bar that just goes back and forth. You could wear headphones with bilateral auditory stimulation. So, right ear, left ear, right ear, left ear. Crossing your arms across your chest and tapping the opposite arm or holding a tapper device in each hand that uses tactile sensations. So, it's a device that could be wireless or wired. And so it goes like buzz, buzz. So, it's always going back and forth. Nothing is happening. on each side of your body at the same time. So, you're getting a stimulus on one side of the body, then a stimulus on the other side of the body for a specific amount of time. So, your brain is having to process left brain, right brain, left brain, right brain. Exactly, you're following what I'm putting down here. So, the brain has networks that cells use to cross over lots of different areas. And that's especially the case with areas of the brain that involve our memories and our senses. So, the networking that happens makes it faster and easier for those areas to work together, which is why your senses can bring back such strong memories. So, you smell the beach or you smell a beachy candle and you remember your vacation from 20 years ago. Or whatever. You smell a pencil and you think of your first day of kindergarten. EMDR relies on the adaptive information processing model, a theory about how your brain stores memories. This theory recognizes that your brain stores everyday memories and traumatic memories differently. So, during normal events, your brain stores memories smoothly. It also networks them so they connect to other things that you remember. So, you can associate. one memory with another. That's why sometimes you remember something and then you remember something else very quickly because your networks have connected those. But during disturbing or upsetting events, that networking doesn't happen the same way. And so your brain can kind of go offline and it creates a disconnect between what you saw, heard or felt and how your brain stores that memory. So, you may have seen one thing, but your brain has stored it differently because It was so traumatic. Yeah. Okay. So, the right side of your brain is believed to hold negative emotions and perceptions surrounding our experiences. The left side is typically associated with positive emotions. Traumatic memories can get stuck in the right side of the brain, having not been processed correctly, so that your brain didn't receive the message that the danger from the trauma has ended. which is why it can keep coming up. New experiences can actually link up to past traumas and reinforce the negative experience over and over again. So, you may have a new experience that reminds you of this past trauma. And so suddenly you're like, I can't do that anymore because you haven't been able to process your trauma. So, this happens not only with events that you remember, but also with suppressed memories. Like you learn to not touch a hot stove. your brain kind of works the same way with traumatic memories. It's just like, I don't even want to go there because it's going to hurt me. So, it's suppressing them, but that suppression doesn't always work perfectly. And those little tucked away memories can cause negative symptoms, emotions, and behaviors without you even knowing it. So, you've suppressed this memory, but you're acting out and you don't really know why. Sight, sound, and smell with a connection or a similarity to a trauma event can trigger improperly stored memories causing overwhelming feelings of fear, anxiety, anger, or panic. An obvious example of this is a PTSD flashback where improper storage and networking causes your mind to access those memories in a way that's distorted and overpowering. So, lots of people with a history of flashbacks describe that feeling as if they're reliving the trauma, which is terrifying. I cannot even imagine. No. I mean living through something like that once is bad enough. Right. And then to keep reliving it. And your body reacting as if it's real. Yeah. So, using EMDR therapy helps to reactivate the neural networks in your brain and allows a person to reprocess the memories, hopefully in a way that everyday memories are processed and help the person manage the symptoms and heal from the trauma. Okay. So, it doesn't require sitting and talking in detail about the trauma, but it instead focuses on changing emotions, thoughts, or behaviors that resulted from the trauma. I'm going to pull all this together to help it try and make sense. Cause I know that's a lot. Yeah. So, during a session with a counselor, when a troubling memory is identified, the person is encouraged to speak about it while they're participating in the dual action stimuli, um, to allow the mind, to create new neural connections with that memory and its triggers. So, the person is asked to talk about any feelings or reactions they experienced during the recall and the stimuli. And when the person is able to focus on that memory with no distress or trauma symptoms, they can then focus on a chosen positive belief taking place of that trauma or that emotion. But they also, when they choose their new belief or their new positive thought, they also have to do the dual action stimuli at the same time, such as the eye movement or using the tappers in your hands. It's kind of like, I know this sounds weird, but because it's left and right brain kind of integration, it's kind of like helping a memory cross over. That's exactly right. That barrier. That's exactly right. You're explaining it exactly. So, the goal is to allow the person to process the traumatic memory, give them tools to build healthy, beneficial behaviors and interactions moving forward so that they're not afraid to do the things that might trigger them. Right. And that's where this phrase comes from, the eye movement desensitization reprocessing. So, you're reprocessing these memories to, yes, help them. across the barrier where they've gotten stuck in your brain and, and be stored as a everyday memory would be. A normal memory. Yes. Yeah. Why does the dual attention stimulate work? Well, one of the theories out there is that it is similar to what happens during REM sleep, our, our dreaming sleep. So, the brain is processing and consolidating memories during REM, which is when your eyes are moving back and forth. from left side, right side, left side, right side. So, I'm gonna ask you a question. Okay. What is your very first memory as a kid? I know exactly what it is. My brother Sean, I was a baby. Okay. A baby. And people, my family cannot believe that I remember this. And it's the only memory I have from this time. It's not like I have lots of memories from when I was a baby, but I was little. And he had a magazine open. and there was a baby food ad, and he was pretending like he could dip his finger in and eat the baby food. And I was trying to do it, and I couldn't, and I got pissed off. I got so mad and I started crying, and he thought it was hilarious. And he just kept laughing and pretending like he was eating the baby food, and I couldn't eat it. Wow, and you remember that. That is my first memory, and it's a negative memory. Whoa. But I did this as an experiment. Okay. When I asked you to try and remember your first memory, you know what your eyes did? They moved. They were going back and forth while you were trying to recall your memory. And so I think that's fascinating. That your eyes have to move. They typically will move. You will rarely see a person, when you ask them to recall a memory, look straight dead in your eyes. They will typically, like look up and I mean their eyes are moving around and scientists think that has a big part of recalling memories, storing memories, that's how the brain works. Now wait, if you don't do that though, does that mean you're a psychopath? I think so, yes. I stopped reading before I got to that part. Is that one of the signs that you may be a psychopath? Maybe. If your eyes don't move when you're trying to recall something? I would think psychopaths, we would have to watch them during REM sleep and see what their eyeballs do. Do they just, they sleep with their eyes open and they look straight ahead? This just blew my mind. I thought it was the freaking coolest thing. Now I need to know what was your first memory. I really don't know. You look to the side. I really don't know. You're trying. You're trying hard. Um... I just don't know. I would have to really think about that for a long time. I think it would probably be my mom's parents because I was really close to them. I think it would probably be something at their house. Yeah. But I don't have a lot of childhood memories. And it's hard to, it's hard to place things. chronologically in your brain too from that far back because you don't know well was that my first memory or was it this did this happen before this because your brain starts to jumble it all up yes like I would say probably one of my next memories would be my grandpa Mac used to crunch ice oh he used to chew ice he loved chewing ice and I would sit on his lap when they would come visit because they lived in Michigan so they lived like five hours away yeah and they would come visit us and I would sit on his lap and he had a red sweater. Oh wow. Like a red cardigan sweater and I would sit on his lap and he would just, you know, the adults would be talking or whatever and he would just crunch, crunch. Oh my gosh. And he smelled like, you know, tobacco cause everybody smoked. Of course. So, smell is a big thing too. Yeah, sure. Oh yes, for sure. Yeah. It's interesting. I just think it's fascinating. That is fascinating. I would like to see the results of some of these studies. Like I would like to see some people who have used this, what their results are or what their testimonials are. Yeah. It doesn't have to be scientific necessarily, but I would just like to hear testimonials from people who have used this. How much has this helped you? I kind of couldn't get my mind wrapped around this when I first... was learning about it. And so I was like, I'm just gonna look up a video on YouTube and there was a therapy session. I'm sure it wasn't real. It might've been real, but they had a therapy session on there that kind of explained. And as soon as I saw it, I was like, oh, I get it. Anyway, I think one of the good things that did come out of the pandemic is it's. taking away the stigma of mental health services and reaching out and talking about it. And so I think, so this is, I mean, I just think this is so cool. And if it works, why not try it? Yeah. I mean, go for it. I think any tool that you can put in your toolbox for mental health is great. Yeah. Cause we're all different. Yeah, not everything's going to work for every person. Exactly. And so you got to try different things and you have to, you know, all of our brains are different. So,, um, but yeah, you're right. It is very important to talk about mental health and just be open about it and not, not feel ashamed of having certain feelings. It's it's all how you react to your feelings and all how you, you know, act out on things. How you process. That makes a difference. Mm-hmm. Yeah. My sources for that search were the Cleveland Clinic, the Wave Clinic, and ScienceFocus.com. All right. But Cara. What? What about this one? What about it? Here's a quick listing of our other searches from the past week that we didn't have time to discuss in this episode or were just too damn boring. You're boring. Now this is more than the past week. Yeah, this is like three weeks. How long is your list? I have 21. Okay. Oh, I didn't number mine. Episodes? Yep, 21 episodes. What the hell is wrong with me? I have 21 items. Now that's not all of them. I did curate this list. I did too. Because there was a lot, well, there were a lot of work things in there. Oh, gotcha. And also there were some things in here. related to health and related to some other things that I was like, I'm not going to be saying that on mic. Because I have been to the to the lady doctor and a few other things in the interim since we've last recorded. Some personal research. Yeah, yeah. So, that kind of stuff just got left off. Understood. Yeah. Okay. Here we go. Okay. It's still a long list. Bucky's Replacement rack for TV trays. Trey Crowder, Blue Room. I never bought those tickets. I told Clint that I did. I never did. Oh noes! I got them. Oh, whew. But I had to buy the expensive ones. What a dummy. MFM live shows. OPTV wine and food celebration. Ted Lasso season four. Is that the last season? No, season three was supposed to be the last season and now they've said just kidding and they're gonna have a season four. Okay. But Jamie Tartt's not coming back. I don't know who that is. It's just one of the characters. He's too busy. The actor. He got jobs from us and they said we're not gonna do this anymore and so Oh no! He moved on and now they're like, uh Phil, can you come back? And he's like, nope. Well, whose fault is that? Saz! Okay, Google Keep. It's a notes app, Cara. Dang! Zach Galifianakis. Huga pronunciation. I've been saying it wrong. H-Y-G-G-E. It's the Swedish, I believe, concept of coziness. How long, how have you been saying it? I've been saying Higa. Oh. And it's Huga. Well. There's no O in there. That's pretty close. Swedish people. Deshaun Watson charges. NFL Guardian Cap. How to reset ice maker for Samsung French door refrigerator. Uh oh. It's fine. Oh good. Efexor, MAOI or SSRI. Octavia Butler books in order. Margot Hemingway slash Hemingway suicides. Paxlovid. Edgar Allan Poe decor Michaels. Box elder bug. Volunteer trees. Open GE Stovetop. Did you know you can open your stove? Yes. I just learned that. I am 40 something years old. And I just learned that watching a cleaning video. Oh my gosh. I had no idea you could open the top of your stove. I learned that from my grandma. To clean and. Yeah. I've been shoving my fat arms into the holes. Like taking the elements off. Yes. And shoving my arms down in there my whole life. I am so sorry. If I had known I would have told you. It has revolutionized my life. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, that's how when I got my first apartment, it was one of the first things I tried was to see if I could lift the sofa top and I'll be danged if I did. They make them that way. I know. Why is that not touted more? There should be a little sticker on there that says open here. Lift here. Yeah. Anyway. See, you're never too old to learn something. Never. Especially when you're a dumb dumb. Watch YouTube pays off. It does. All right, you ready for this? I'm so ready. Settle in folks. Variable rate and fixed rate annuities. Cats playing patty cake. Springfield Moe pollen count. Current barometric pressure. Bob Newhart, stop it, skit. Oh. James Earl Jones. Moment of silence. Springfield Moe pollen count. Wow. I don't feel so good. PetSmart return policy. Jordan Love injury status. UPS store hours. Fresh cut lilacs, soap, bath and body works. How low is too low for blood sugar? Uh, we know the level that I had the other day. How to watch September six Packers game. Career builder. Jelly Roll did. Nope, nope. I just saw him last night. I saw him on a commercial and I was like, Oh my gosh, they're using that commercial. Like I did. I saw that somewhere. I saw a headline that said Jelly Roll dead at age blah blah. And so then I looked it up and I was like, oh, he is so not dead. Fake news. Literally fake news. He was on Thursday Night Football last night. Yeah. Whatever. Which was a terrible game, by the way. Jelly Roll not dead. Jelly Roll not dead? Account manager job duties. Trash rules. Card game. Picture of fine young cannibals. Missouri fall festivals. Where can I sell Beatles books slash memorabilia? Jordan love injury status. Oh. I finally got an update, finally. Consignment stores near me. 2025 Greater Springfield garage sale, Eplex. Garage sale? It's the garage sale! Clock repair near me. Why is Into the Spider-Verse not on Disney Plus? Professional cleaning services near me. Best tea towels. Raccoon repellent. Springfield Mo' Pollen count. Oh my lord. Cheese schedule. What is iPlayer? 2022 Hallmark trailer. 1996 Sundance pontoon. If anybody wants a 1996 pontoon, please call me. Oh yeah. Fajita seasoning, CD rates, yard waste recycling center hours, how to care for a friendship plant. Too late. Oh no. He did. You killed that friendship. Friendship plant, dude. Not so friendship-lit! Oh gosh! Nicely done cleaning, Mila vacuum, Fubo, NFL+, Brat Pack members, and Word Association uses. Phew. Yikes. I am done. How about some listener shoutouts? I do have some, but I bet you have the same ones. Oh, go for it. Okay. Um, I just wanted to thank Pennsylvania Erin for responding to our call out about Scrapple. Yes, she did. Erin loves Scrapple. She said, it is delicious. Do not judge a book by its cover or a meat by its color. And didn't she say that it was gray because of oats? Because of the buckwheat. Oh, buckwheat. That's in it. Which makes sense. Makes sense. OK. She said it was delicious, so we're going to trust her. OK, dokey. Who else? Erin contacted us again. Oh, she did. Yeah, and she left us a little note saying that she missed us. And she hopes that we get well soon and are also getting some rest. Oh, yes. I did see that, actually. Cause I think you had posted on social media that you, your whole family was sick with the vid and that I was exhausted from working at Roy's house. Those are all the shout outs I have. And I just want to shout out Alex again for being our PR person. Yes. At my workplace because every time she gets together with new people at our workplace, she tells them. about our podcast. And then that person says to me, I didn't know you had a podcast. And I know that they've been talking to Alex. So, thank you, Alex. Sean did a little marketing for us. I mean, he told a friend and it was Sully. And Sully's like, you've got a podcast? I was like, yeah, for like a year. And he goes, oh my gosh. So, shout out to Sully. If you're listening, I told him he probably wouldn't like it. Why? Well, I mean, he's not a woman of a certain age. Oh, he could be. I don't know what that means. Um, but he might listen. He's a cool dude. He's totally cool and he's always willing to give anything one chance. We have, we have a few male listeners. We do. We do. So, I don't know if he's listening, but Sully, if you're listening, shout out to you. And good for you for listening. That's right. Learn something. We are hilarious. I think so. I mean, duh. If other people think that we're hilarious, how can they tell the world? Oh, they can rate and review us. Oh yeah. Tell the world by rating and reviewing us. You know what? You don't even have to review us. Just rate us. Oh yeah. Be like, five stars. Yeah. And then go about your day. Yeah. But if you wanna talk to us. Yeah, you can get in touch with us on social media at DTH gals on Instagram and threads and at Delete This History on Facebook, which I wrote in my rundown. Good job! Yeah! They could also old school email us at Delete This History podcast at gmail.com. Which we love. We love emails! Love it! All right. At this point, in the day and in the week, my internet search history is just overflowing. It's... It is. It's about to burst. Like my bladder. So, I'm gonna go delete that history. That is a really good idea. I think I will do the same thing. Okay. But you know what people are waiting for. I think I do. Okay. Here it comes. Are you ready? Yeah. Ahem. Stay fresh you cheese bags. Bye bye. Bye. Delete this history. It's created. Written. Posted, produced, and edited by Brea Brown and Cara Burch. Theme music is so good by Orkas. Email us at dele Find us on Instagram and threads at DTHGals and Facebook at Delete This History. Copyright 2024, all rights reserved. Memories provided by Eye Movement. Blink, blink.