Did you just hear a dog?
No, I moved, it was my chair.
Oh.
I have the barking chair.
It was like.
Just turned.
Burt.
Sorry.
It's a weimaraner.
Ha ha ha.

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Welcome to episode 44 of Delete This History, podcast by two besties of a certain age, searching for answers.
We're your hosts, Cara Burch.
And Brea Brown.
We are coming to you live from Burch Studios.
Yep, Burch Studios.
So if you hear some dogs in the background, my bad.
Not to be confused with Roy Burch Studios.
No, this is Cara Burch Studios.
Correct.
Sean and Cara Burch Studios.
Yes, you better get that right.
We live here in Harmony.
Mm-hmm.
It's been a day.
Yeah.
For both of us.
And we're.
recording a day early.
Yo, my gosh, yes, my apologies.
Because somebody has a birthday tomorrow.
Sean's birthday's tomorrow.
And I asked Brea if we could please record early so I could spend the day with Sean.
And she obliged.
You're such a nice wife.
You took the day off and everything.
Yeah, I did.
We're gonna have some fun.
Poor Sean needs to have some fun.
Yes, he does.
So I got him some of the best gifts.
Yay.
I will have to maybe post pictures of them because they're amazing.
Oh, of course.
I got him a Hawaiian shirt.
Uh-huh.
Did I tell you?
Oh, I sent you a picture, didn't I?
It's a Hawaiian shirt with pictures of our dogs throughout.
No, you did not send me a picture.
I didn't.
You just told me that you had gotten it.
Okay, well, it's amazing.
This is so funny.
And then I got him some badly needed items for his van, the rocket van.
Oh yes.
So, um, he will be very excited about those.
And then I went to Bon Bon's and I got him a little bit of caramel, caramel pieces because he's a caramel freak.
Nummy.
But I think we're going to go see a movie and go wherever he wants to eat.
And what are you going to go see?
I don't know, but I will say that the movie Twisters is out.
So we may go see that because it's going to be terrible.
I can't wait.
So we may go and just dog on that.
Maybe we'll do a drinking contest.
And every time it's like, Oh, cringy, we'll take a drink.
They may have to drag us out of there.
What are your bookmarks this week?
Um, so I forgot to write them down.
I don't have a fancy notebook like you do to write down my bookmarks, but we watched, of course it's television.
We watched Receiver.
Which is the counterpart to quarterback.
Oh yes.
Uh-huh.
It's so good and so different from quarterback.
Really?
I, we really enjoyed it.
We binged it.
I'm not interested in any of those players.
We weren't super interested in those players either, but we enjoyed the show and getting to know, I mean, first of all, Devontae Adams, I love him.
He was a Packer.
So that was one of the main reasons I wanted to watch it.
So it was really interesting to watch that and his struggles with moving from the Packers to the Raiders and then, you know, because he moved there to work with Derek Carr.
Right.
And then they got rid of Derek Carr got the can.
So that was an interesting storyline to kind of watch unfold.
Yeah.
I have always hated George Kittle because he's so good.
I'm just like, dang, we got to play this guy.
And he is good.
Yeah, he's good.
You just have to watch the show to understand George Kittle.
He is not what I was expecting.
Really?
Underline not, capital letters. Italicizes.
He's very woo-woo.
Really?
His parents, I think, were hippies.
Yeah.
And I'm not dogging it.
This is how the guy motivates himself to do a great job.
Yeah, yeah.
It's just his technique, but I didn't know that's how he was.
Yeah.
Shocked.
And it was kind of interesting to watch the wives of all the receivers, because they're very involved with the show and the babies that they have.
Yes.
So anyway, I recommend it.
We enjoyed it.
We binged it.
We just busted through that whole thing.
Oh, hmm.
Maybe I shall.
I am going through football withdrawals.
I think you'd like it.
We'll see.
Okay.
I know Clinton won't watch it with me.
What?
Because he's not interested in them?
He really doesn't like George Kittle at all.
He thinks he's obnoxious.
Oh, well, he should not watch this because it will elevate that feeling.
Yeah.
See, that's the vibe I get from George Kittle is that he is just- He's obnoxious.
And he is obnoxious.
That's why I told Sean, I said, I could not work with that guy.
Yeah.
I would be like, but- That's what I, I mean, yeah, I don't like that he's really good.
I know, yes.
When we have to play him, obviously.
But I generally, I don't begrudge people who are good at what they do, but he's just so obnoxious about it.
Yes.
I just want to smack him every time I see him.
And- Oh, sorry.
And Clint is, he feels that way like 10 times more than I do.
Well, you're not wrong.
He is annoying.
I recommend it to you, Brea.
I have so much to watch before I watch that.
Oh, I understand.
Have you watched The Bear yet?
I haven't watched the new season of The Bear because everybody says it's not that great.
It's not that great.
I'm like you, I don't want to be disappointed.
I mean it wasn't awful but man I was expecting more from that.
I just don't want to spend time on something that's like meh.
Yeah, yeah, I don't blame you.
Because there's so many great things to watch.
Yes there are.
Speaking of.
Yes?
Oh, I don't have anything to watch on my bookmarks this week.
Good for you! I know! It doesn't mean I didn't watch anything.
Right.
It just means that there were other things.
You're just you're branching out.
I started reading the book James by Percival Everett.
That's quite a name.
It well, James is the name.
Percival Everett is the author.
Oh, OK.
That's how many people.
That's quite a name for a book.
Oh, no.
The author.
Yeah.
You don't hear many Percivals.
Yes.
But he is an award winning writer.
And this is literary fiction, Cara.
I am such a hillbilly.
I am getting all high brow.
Okay.
It's a Huck Finn retelling from the point of view of Jim.
Ew.
The slave.
That's cool.
And it's amazing so far.
I really like it a lot.
Where did I see that?
Oh, I saw it on a Kindle editor's picks thing on my Kindle.
I was like, I think I need to read something that I don't know.
Doesn't involve somebody.
being murdered in a bakery or something.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
It's just not very, just not very cerebral.
Oh my gosh.
You know what I mean?
Yes, I'm with you.
Yeah, so that.
Do you have other bookmarks?
I don't.
I have one more.
Okay.
Life refresh.
Yes?
Just mix things up a little bit.
Change your bedspread.
Get rid of shit.
buy new cushions for your outdoor furniture.
Just mix things up a little bit.
And you don't have to buy something.
It could be as simple as, like I said, rearrange some furniture or, I thought of something else this morning.
I was like, I should probably write that down as another example.
Or just switch up your routine at home.
Drive to work a different way.
Yes, sometimes that makes a big difference.
It does.
Mm-hmm.
Just.
I did a life refresh and got a haircut this week.
You did.
A serious one.
It's adorable.
Thank you.
I think she said she cut off like seven inches.
Yeah.
There's a lot of hair gone.
Yes.
And it feels amazing.
I just feel like I'm so, you know, I feel like I'm 20 again.
You're sassy.
I'm so cute.
You are so cute.
It's very sassy.
Thank you.
That's a good recommendation.
We all need to do something different.
Yes clue into that once in a while we get in a rut.
Oh my gosh.
And then all of a sudden you're like mentally it just hits you all of a sudden.
Yeah like weeks go by and you're like what am I doing with my life?
I do the same things at the same time.
every single day and sometimes that's comforting like I do like routine sure um but other times it's like I have got to get a different perspective every once in a while Shawn will say can we just go anywhere tonight anywhere go see a movie I'm like absolutely poor Shawn he never gets out of the house he never gets out of the house and so when I get home, I don't want to go back out of the house because I've dealt with people all day long.
And this poor guy, he's dying to get out of the house because he hasn't seen people all day long.
And your weekends are all taken up with.
Yes.
The stuff.
Yeah.
So, yeah, we're kind of at odds.
I need to do better.
I need to elevate and go out more for his mental health.
Clint and I are the same way too, but it's the opposite.
He's out and about all day long, all week long.
I go to the office one day a week and I'm not saying I wanna change that.
Right.
I'm perfectly fine with that.
But then there are times when I'm like, can we just go do something?
Anything.
Yeah.
Just like Sean said, anything.
Lots of times we'll just hop in the car, the real rocket van and go for a drive.
Sometimes I, what I do on Sundays to have to make Clint get out with me and do things because that's the only day off that we have together.
Yeah.
On a typical week, I will entice him out to go to Big Biscuit for breakfast on Sunday morning.
Oh.
And then I have him hostage.
And then we go down to home.
What's it called?
That home store that's by Big Biscuit?
At home.
I drag him through there.
And then it's time to pick up the groceries on Sunday morning.
So then he's really hostage and he has to go with me on my errands.
My Sunday errands.
But you're driving, right?
Yeah, I'm driving.
Yeah.
So he gets to just sit back and look at the sites and act like an old person to go, how long's that been there?
Yep.
That's what we do.
When did that get built?
That's me usually, because I'm the one who never leaves the house.
That's, yeah, we're the exact opposite.
Sean is the same way.
Sean is you, I'm Clint.
Yeah, exactly.
You guys even park opposite as we do in your garage.
Is that right?
Yeah, cause you park on the right, but I park on the left.
How do you sleep in bed?
We sleep in bed the same way we park in the garage.
So I'm on the right.
If you're standing at the foot of the bed and looking at it, I'm on the right.
Same.
So that's all my bookmarks.
Okay, those are pretty good.
Yeah.
Well, how about we move on and we talk about our internet searches for the week?
Okay.
How will we do that, Brea?
With the reading of the list, of course.
Bum ba dum, bum bum, bum.
Perfect.
Okay, in this segment, we tell you our top three most interesting, funniest, most successful internet searches of the week in list form.
Here we go with my list.
I'm ready.
Number one, web worms.
I searched this every freaking fall.
Every fall I searched this.
Number two, kin keeping.
Number three, mad as a hatter origin.
Ooh, I know the answer to that.
That does not surprise me.
It's super duper interesting.
I had no idea, but I get it now.
The besties are gonna find out.
Here are mine for this week.
A crime cruise.
Proleptic irony and rare earth monopoly definition.
Okay.
I can't wait to hear about that one.
I can't wait to hear about all of them.
Now that the dogs have settled down, it's time to play a game that we like to call.
They're gonna be so mad when we do this.
Search me.
where we each pose one question to each other and see if she can answer based only on the reading of the list.
This week, your book is, oh damn it.
Your prize.
Yes.
Is a book.
Oh really?
Your prize.
Amazing.
Is a book.
It is Murder in the Red Room by Elliot Roosevelt.
Nice.
Now, Roosevelt.
that name might be familiar to you.
A little bit as an American email.
And you would be right.
It is the son, is it the son?
Maybe it's the grandson of Eleanor Roosevelt.
He's an author and he inputs Eleanor into his murder mysteries.
So the red room is inside the White House.
Oh, I have to answer her question first.
Damn it.
I was going to say hand it over.
Yeah, she was gesturing for me to hand it to her.
I want it on 1937, January 20th.
Franklin D.
Roosevelt was inaugurated for a second term days later.
The Ohio and Mississippi Valleys were ravaged by record breaking floods.
And goes on and on and on.
Like, it looks like the funnest book ever.
So he takes his grandparents.
and turns them into characters in fictional books.
Yes.
That's great.
So he lists all these things that happened in 1937.
Yeah, so it's historical fiction.
Yes, amidst all these historical events, a murder poses this country's greatest threat and presents Eleanor Roosevelt with what may be her most challenging case.
In her 10th investigative outing, since her son, Elliot, began featuring her.
as star of his much acclaimed mystery series, the first lady's efforts are sparked by a strange note delivered to her during a White House dinner for the judiciary.
Oh, so she is the protagonist.
She is.
And it said her son, not her grandson.
Yes, so her son wrote these.
Interesting.
An Eleanor Roosevelt mystery.
Oh my gosh.
This is a part of the Beverly Burch Library.
And I love Eleanor Roosevelt.
I know, I knew, when I saw this, I was like, mine.
I'm giving that to Brea.
Okay, I'm ready for my question.
Brea, which of my searches came from taking a bunch of quizzes on dictionary.
com?
Kinkeeping.
That's right, kinkeeping.
I got on dictionary.
com while I was doing my rundown and I saw that they have quizzes.
Oh no.
I love quizzes.
Me too, this is gonna be a problem.
And it was all like, I found out it was vocabulary and I was like, oh no.
Oh no.
And this is a word I'd never heard of but I actually guessed correctly.
Excellent.
Kinkeeping is the act of maintaining.
and strengthening familial ties.
It is a form of emotional labor done both out of a sense of obligation and because of emotional attachment.
Sociologist Carolyn Rosenthal defined the term in her 1985 article, Kinkeeping in the Familial Division of Labor.
Kinkeeping helps extended family members stay in touch with one another and strengthens intergenerational bonds.
writing letters, visiting, sending gifts, acting as a caregiver for disabled or sick family members, or even providing financial support.
Maintaining family traditions is also a form of kin keeping.
Women are more likely to be kin keepers than men.
Shocking.
Oh my gosh, right?
And kin keeping tends to be extremely time consuming.
begin to feel burdensome.
No kidding.
I know this isn't gonna shock you, but I do the kin keeping in our family.
That does not surprise me.
In my household.
But my brother, Andrew, he's the kin keeper of the whole like sibling group.
He is on it.
He calls every single one of us on every holiday.
I mean, we just live down the street, but he'll still call.
That's so nice.
Say, oh, happy blah, if we're not going to be together or whatever.
Happy Easter.
Happy this.
I'm like, dude, you live right down the street.
No, I don't say that.
It is really nice.
But he's just one of those people who like it's really important to him.
Yeah, he's a kinkeeper.
My sources were dictionary.
com quizzes and Wikipedia.
Excellent.
OK, Cara.
Yes.
you are playing for.
Yes.
I want you.
to try to contain.
Uh-oh, this is a very special.
This is a slow reveal.
Based on something we talked about last week.
Shut your face! Your very own kaboodle.
It's a frickin' kaboodle! Oh! You can hold it.
I'll hold it.
I promise not to.
Okay.
Are you ready for this?
I'm really nervous because I want the kaboodle.
You're getting the kaboodle no matter what.
Don't worry.
Oh, I can't.
Okay.
Okay, here we go.
What sounds super cool, but actually isn't awesome and is a big problem for the US and technology manufacturing?
Proleptic irony?
Oh, I meant it's not proleptic irony.
I know for sure.
And then I'm gonna, it's definitely not crime cruises.
So by process of elimination, obviously it's rare earth monopoly definition.
That's correct.
I almost said that first.
Should have gone with your gut.
I know.
Tony.
Hi, Tony.
Leave Bri alone.
Okay.
Here we go.
Tell me all about it.
Rare earth elements or REEs, REEs is what I'm gonna call them.
REEs.
Are any metals or oxides of a group of chemically similar metallic elements that are part of a set of 17 lustrous silvery white soft heavy metals.
They're metals.
Got it.
Okay.
They're used in electrical and electronic components, lasers.
glass magnetic materials in industrial processes.
Okay.
This includes the magnets integral to manufacturing electric vehicles.
Uh oh.
And wind farms.
Ruh roh.
Rees are not particularly rare, but they tend to occur together in nature and are difficult to separate from one another.
So once you mine them, it's hard to get them isolated and refined and.
All those good things.
They earned the name Rare Earth Elements because when they were discovered by Lieutenant Karl Axel Argenius in 1787 at a quarry in Sweden, they'd never been seen before.
Now, what country do you think has a monopoly on roughly 90 to 95% of the world's rare earth elements production, processing and refining?
I'm gonna go with China.
You are correct.
Here's why that's kind of a big deal.
Okay.
As stated by a Pentagon representative back in 2022, the reality is if a country wants to cut off supply for any reason, along with just prioritizing themselves, it means that others are at risk.
And the Pentagon cares a lot about this because REEs controlled by China, are critical components in missiles, firearms, radars, and stealth aircraft.
Oh boy.
Mm-hmm.
Disruptions in supply chain for microelectronics and semiconductors can cause major problems as we experienced at the beginning of the war in Ukraine because they mine a lot of reese in Russia as well.
Okay.
And China has a history of using access to its reese as a bargaining chip.
Oh news.
In past disputes, they've blocked Japan's access, for example.
The largest US deposit of reeds is at Mountain Pass, California.
What?
Uh-huh.
Wait a second.
Well, go ahead.
60 miles south of Las Vegas.
Then why are we so dependent on China's?
Here's why.
That is a good question, Cara, and it leads right into my next sentence.
Excellent.
After mining the reed concentrate, it's sold to refiners in China.
to convert it into powerful alloys and magnets.
You have got to be kidding me.
We are so dumb.
Yep.
However, Mountain Pass' goal is to restore the full supply chain to the U.
S.
performing all stages of the magnetics producing process.
And they might have already.
Excellent.
Because what I was reading was a little bit old.
Like 2022 or 21 or something.
So, By now they might have, and they are also building some more places like in Texas that will do this as well.
Nice.
Here's why, however, that it's not all that popular here in the United States to do it because it is not good for the environment.
But Mountain Pass has developed ways to reduce the environmental damage that's seen in the and processing of reese.
So they're doing it a little bit differently, but it costs more money to do it differently.
Of course it does.
And to do it more environmentally friendly.
Sure.
I mean, I don't know much about mining, but I would assume that all types of mining are not environmentally friendly.
They're really not.
Yeah.
We do a lot of business with mining companies.
Yeah.
Because they need a lot of help navigating.
regulatory agencies and making sure that they're in compliance with those agencies because it is a very dirty process.
Yeah, I can imagine.
It ain't good.
But we gotta mine.
Well, we gotta have those metals.
We gotta have them.
I mean, think about it.
It's everything now.
Oh, yeah.
Everything.
Absolutely.
And so they were also talking about in some of the articles I read, they also talked about how we're getting better.
at pulling these metals and these reeds from electronics that have been recycled.
Oh, that's a great idea.
But that's also a pretty time consuming and tedious process.
I'm sure it is.
I can only imagine.
My sources were Oxford Languages, Wikipedia, Reuters, Foreign Policy Research Institute, and Politico.
Wow.
Yeah.
I went mining for information.
Oh, Tony's even laughing at that.
You win a caboodle.
I cannot believe that you bought this.
I need you to open the caboodle.
Oh, OK.
Well, hang on.
Let me move my drinks.
Last week, I said they were expensive.
They're not expensive.
Well, not now.
No.
Maybe in the 80s when they were hot.
No, no, no.
Like I said, oh, they are still expensive, but they're not.
Oh, OK.
So I don't know what I was looking at before.
What is that?
Oh, my gosh.
Lips smackers.
Lips smackers belongs in a caboodle.
Oh, my gosh.
The.
I got you a lippy pals unicorn lip smacker.
Unicorn?
Kind of matches.
More lip smackers.
And a whole thing of lip smackers.
Loved lip smackers.
Oh, sorry everybody.
I remember that Mango Kiwi cotton candy oatmeal cookie.
Yes, please That's also what Alex J just said yeah Pina colada.
Oh, I can't read that one cuz I'm an old lady.
It's probably Oh strawberry There's on the on the back.
It has a host Blue raspberry, watermelon, vanilla, tropical punch.
Nice.
Oh my gosh.
So many.
It's like a lifetime supply.
I know.
Well, if you're like me, it'll last you about a year cause you lose them.
Oh, well, no.
No, no.
I lose stuff all the time.
So yeah, you, and it, yeah.
It has a mirror.
All the things.
Now they don't make the super ginormous ones like the one I used to have.
That's okay.
I was really kind of disappointed.
That's all right.
I'm already thinking of all the things I could put in here.
Yeah.
I was thinking, hey, could I make this my podcast tackle box?
Oh, that's a good idea.
But I don't think it would fit all the things.
Hmm, I'll give it a shot.
This- Unicorn thing is cracking me up.
We'll have to take pictures of us.
We have been really bad about taking pictures of our prices We don't take price pictures because we don't take selfies.
Yes.
Thank goodness Thank you.
This is so sweet.
I was like this is kind of big for For a search me prize, but after what we talked about last week I just felt so sad that you never got one when you were a kid.
I appreciate you.
You're the only one.
No one else cared that I didn't have one.
You're the only one that cares for you.
I care.
That's why I love you.
Because, I mean, my parents were pretty tight with money, but even I had a caboodle.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
Love it.
Gosh, I kind of just want to play with my caboodle now.
That sounded super dirty.
It did.
My bad.
Later.
You can eat half a gummy and go play with your caboodle.
Your Diddy bag.
It's a great idea.
Diddy box.
You're right, it was titty box.
Well, now we share a history of kaboodles.
Yeah, we do.
So do you want to share our internet search histories for the week as well?
I do.
Let's do it.
Indeed.
Let's do it.
All right, my first one, and really my second one, are going to be super short.
Oh.
Because there's not a super whole lot of information about them.
I was really disappointed.
We'll find a way to gab about it, I'm sure.
Of course we will.
Mad is a hatter origin.
Yes.
The phrase mad as a hatter actually comes from mercury poisoning.
In the 19th century, fur treated with mercury was used to make felt hats.
Hatters usually worked in small spaces and breathed in the toxic mercury fumes resulting in mad or irrational behavior.
The end.
But that's where the mad hatter from Alice in Wonderland comes from.
Yes.
and he's wearing a very large hat.
Correct.
So think of all the fumes that he must have inhaled making that hat.
Absolutely.
Yes.
I was going to go on and do a little more searching about mercury and mercury poisoning and how prolific it might be in today and all that.
But I just, I have run out of time.
This week has been nutsy fagan.
I just didn't have time and I apologize.
I think we can kind of get the gist.
I mean, mercury poisoning, not good.
It's bad.
Yeah, and it does make you act.
A little kooky.
Yeah.
What I was reading was it typically involves the shakes.
Like you get, what is a medical term?
The delirium tremens.
Tremors, yes, tremors is the, wait, what'd you say?
Delirium tremens.
That's from.
when you go through alcohol withdrawal, the DTs.
The DTs, oh my gosh.
I have never looked up what that stood for.
DTs, baby.
I don't even have to look it up now.
You just told me.
Yes.
See, like what I do.
I just drink all day.
My source for that was news I love stuff like that.
Just think about how prevalent that was back in the day everybody wore hats I know it was like a thing to wear a hat.
Oh, yeah weren't a gentleman if you didn't correct Ladies had hats too.
Oh, yes, they did in fact There had to be a law passed in the United States that you cannot Taxidermy a bird for the sake of hat making because They used so many birds and hats back in the day, like back in, oh, like around the turn of the century.
Like a full bird?
Yes, they would have birds and feathers and all kinds of stuff on their hats.
Yes, feathers.
But full birds.
Wow.
And it got to the point where they were hunting these birds, you know, into, not extinction, but you know, at least.
endangerment to try and make money off of yeah to make friggin hats you know what this is making me think of the gilded age show no i haven't seen that it's making me think of the harry potter movies i think it's number three when snape is dressed like oh my gosh what is that kid's name oh this is terrible neville yeah neville pictures Snape wearing his grandmother's clothes and he has this big ol' vulture on that hat.
Yep.
That's one of the funniest parts of all those movies when I love it.
Severus Snape.
And you know what's great about it is that you know that it's imaginary.
Right.
Right?
And that Neville's imagining this so that he can laugh about it.
But Alan Rickman actually had to do that.
Yes.
And he did it.
That's what makes me laugh so hard about the Harry Potter films and because a lot of the things in the Harry Potter films are things that don't really happen.
But the actors still had to do it.
Right.
Exactly.
There's a funny video online of I don't remember which one it was, but they had to have the whole school sleep in the Great Hall.
So there's a part where.
Dumbledore and Snape are walking down the corridor.
Have you seen this video?
It's an outtake.
And the character, it's Michael Gambon, and he has a fart machine in his pocket.
It is the funniest video.
You guys look it up.
Look up Michael Gambon, Dumbledore, fart machine, outtake.
It is awesome.
I heard that he was a real clown.
Yes, I've heard the same.
He's such a good actor.
I love him and I miss him.
I know.
We've lost so many people lately.
I know.
All right.
Okay.
Your turn.
All right.
Let's do proleptic irony.
Please.
I was reading James, which I already talked about, and the term proleptic irony was mentioned.
Now, we all learned what irony isn't.
in the 90s with Alanis Morissette's music.
But did you know that there are different types of irony?
No.
There are.
These are the things you learn when you read literary fiction.
In James, Jim asks a friend if a situation is an example of proleptic or dramatic irony.
Oh.
And the friend answers something like, a bit of both, I suspect.
It's very cute, this little exchange that they have together.
Dramatic irony occurs when the audience knows something relevant to the plot that the characters are not aware of.
Think about that for a second.
Say that one more time.
Dramatic irony occurs when the audience knows something relevant to the plot that the characters are not aware of.
Got it.
Here's an example.
In a movie or a book about JFK, the audience likely knows that the president will be assassinated.
Ah, yes.
Okay.
So that would be dramatic irony.
Okay.
You're watching this unfold and you see that, you know, You know that this is going to happen, but the characters don't know yet.
And so everything they do is kind of laced with this dramatic irony because, uh, it's like, he's not even going to be around.
Right.
By the end of the story.
That's what happened to us watching Receiver.
I knew the Chiefs were going to win the Superbowl.
Yeah.
But I was still tense.
Yeah.
That's dramatic irony.
Okay.
Yeah.
Sort of.
Um, okay.
Proleptic irony occurs when a character anticipates something that the audience already knows will turn out differently.
Oh, okay.
This is often in the form of foreshadowing, and it's sometimes called situational irony.
So, if we stick with the example of the JFK movie.
Yes.
Proleptic irony would be JFK complaining about too many security personnel planned for his trip to Dallas.
Mm-hmm.
You'd be like, no, you need more.
Don't ride in that car.
Anyway, my sources were my tutor, University of Michigan, open humanities press, Oregon state university school of writing, literature and film.
Nice.
Yeah.
You're doing deep dives this week.
I just thought that was really interesting.
And I thought, but not just interesting, but I was like, Damn, Jim, I wouldn't know the answer to that question.
Is it dramatic or proleptic?
I don't know.
I wouldn't know that either.
I wonder where the word proleptic comes from.
I don't know.
I should have looked it up.
Well, that's okay.
I just, that's an interesting word.
It sounds like.
.
.
like a health problem.
I have a proleptic uterus.
I have a.
.
.
Proleptic ditty box.
A proleptic caboodle.
It just sounds.
.
.
You like it, because it sounds like prolapsed almost.
Almost, but it also sounds like epileptic.
Oh, yes.
So you could go that way too.
Yes, you could.
I have a prolaptic brain.
What's your next shorty shorts?
All right, web worms.
Oh.
Every year.
You said you look this up every fall, but it's not fall.
It's not fall, but my dad always said, oh, kids, look, the webs in the trees, falls are coming.
He said it every year.
And he's right.
It is a sign that the seasons are, we're at the end of summer.
Okay.
And I was driving into work.
I think it was yesterday and I was like, oh, there's the webs.
I haven't seen the webs.
I saw they're all the way into work.
I saw them.
Lots of them.
They just appeared overnight.
It is only July, but they got to get ready and prepare for fall.
So the fall webworm is a moth principally known for its larval stage, which creates its characteristic webbed nests.
on the tree limbs of a wide variety of hardwoods in the late summer and fall.
It's considered a pest but does not harm otherwise healthy trees.
It is well known to commercial tree services and arborists.
Fall webworms are considered invasive in East Asia.
So it's native to North America and it ranges from Canada to Mexico.
And it had been introduced into other continents.
I'm not going to tell you.
It tells like exactly like in this year, it was showed up in Yugoslavia.
Oh lord.
We're not going to go through that.
No.
But it was introduced into Japan in 1945 and has adjusted its number of generations per year since its arrival.
Whoa.
Oh no.
It's spread into China, southern Mongolia, Korea, and southern Primorsky Krai of Russia.
Oh.
So that now it is Hilaric dick, Hilaric dick in distribution.
What the hell does that mean?
I don't know.
So one generation per year emerges in the Northern part of North America with larva appearing in late summer through early fall.
Interesting.
Okay.
And the webs appear progressively earlier further South.
Oh.
So for whatever reason, we start to see them first.
and then they kind of go further north.
That seems backwards.
I know, I know.
Isn't that interesting?
This is kind of going to wig you out because it wigged me out.
The adult moth lays her eggs on the underside of leaves in hair covered clusters of a few hundred.
Hundreds! And eggs hatch in about a week.
Oh, well, at least they're not there for long.
Yeah, true.
But.
I have, have you ever looked at one of these up close?
They all sit like when they hatch and the worms are in there, the caterpillars, they're all like, like they wiggle around and that's kind of what they're known for.
And apparently at times they can all get on the same cadence and they're all doing the same thing all at once.
Oh, weird.
And then they all get off rhythm and then they're all doing their own thing.
So it's like they're having a little dance party and the web, raise the web.
Books and cats, books and cats.
Raise the leaf.
The caterpillars, once they hatch, are highly variable in coloration, ranging from a pale yellow to dark gray, with yellow spots and long and short bristles.
The adult is white.
They're real pretty.
I don't know if I've ever seen one of these.
I always forget that these are moths.
Or known what they are.
Yeah, I always forget that they're moths.
So here's a picture if you can see it.
No, I've never seen that.
I don't think I've ever seen one before either.
I've seen the caterpillars in the webs, but and every year it's just like, it's brand new to me.
I'm like, what are those?
I know they appear.
I have to look it up every year.
It really sticks with you.
It totally does.
Let's see.
That's pretty much it.
They eat things, you know, caterpillars would eat.
Let's see.
They're gregarious.
They're a gregarious insect.
They like to be together.
Gregarious insect.
So they're social.
They're social.
Groups of larvae live in self-created large webs that are found on tree branches.
These webs allow for the finding of mates, temperature regulation, increased growth rate and protection from predators.
Okay.
So the caterpillars in the fall web worms have several strategies to defend against threats.
Some examples of protective behavior or defense are shaking, jerking together, repellent scent, and irritants on their hairs or spines.
Ew, gross.
They're kinda smelly and hairy.
Oh, sounds like me.
I'm a web worm.
You're a web worm.
That's pretty much it.
Unless you wanna know about their intestinal tract.
No, I do not.
My source for that was a Wikipedia, baby.
Their legs or their eggs, that information was bad enough.
Hundreds.
Yeah, what if you brush up against a leaf and you just don't even know, are they high up in the trees though?
Yes.
On your way home from here, just kind of glance up at the trees, you'll see them.
I can't believe how many have appeared overnight.
It's crazy.
What's your next search?
Uh, my next search is the best search.
Crime Cruise.
I was listening to buried bones this week.
I had to take a break from bananas.
It just got two bananas.
Now I just was kind of in the mood for something a little less zany.
You know how sometimes you just need something a little more chill.
Paul Holes always fills the hole.
He mentioned this amazing event.
crime cruise.
Well, he was talking about a case on buried bones.
And my ears perked up and I immediately headed to the googs for more information.
This year's crime cruise 2024 is a five night Caribbean cruise aboard Royal Caribbean's independence of the seas in early November.
It's amazing.
The website for the event touts it as an immersive adventure dedicated to all things, true crime, mystery and fun in the sun.
And guess who's gonna be on the ship?
Brea Brown.
No.
Oh.
Who?
Paul Holes?
None other than my man Paul Holes.
Oh my gosh.
And some other world-class experts too, whatever.
I don't think I'll be able to swing on this year though.
So, but I'm definitely gonna save up all my royalties and it's gonna take probably all of them.
to go in 2025.
That's gonna be awesome.
Are you gonna go by yourself?
I gotta go.
If I have to, I will.
Okay.
You probably just reading what you sent me about this, I think you would make a friend pretty fast.
Oh, I mean, right away.
Yeah.
You're not gonna be like, you might go alone, but yeah.
Yeah, you're gonna find someone.
Right away.
So is it like, when it says immersive, do you think there's like murder mystery dinners?
Girl, let me tell you.
Oh, okay.
The schedule of events for this year hasn't been published yet, but last year's itinerary, I looked at it.
Nice.
And it included multiple sessions with Dr.
Henry Lee, who is a noted forensic scientist.
He offers a crime scene walkthrough experience.
Oh my gosh.
So they set up a crime scene, and you get to go through it.
And like, look at all the different clues, and he tells you what to look for.
And.
all this is this and this is that and blah, blah.
That's fun.
Pretty cool.
Many meet and greet sessions, many, including one with Paul Hills.
A session called the Science of the Scene.
Oh.
So they're just, they're talking about forensic science.
And a two-part session with Mr.
Paul Hills himself called The Enemy You Know and Who Is Lisa?
So you must have gone through an.
specific case.
Okay.
There was also a bedtime stories session on one of the nights.
Oh my gosh.
So that's pretty cool.
Okay, so the ticket includes crime crews programming and activities, private opening night reception with open bar and canapes.
Nuts.
Yeah.
All meals in the main dining venues.
Your choice of accommodation.
Now your ticket will vary in price depending on which accommodation you choose.
I would be probably in an interior room.
You know what?
That's okay.
You're never there anyway.
You're never going to be there.
You just sleep.
And ship activities.
So all the other ship activities that you would normally do on a cruise are also available to you.
Oh my gosh.
For a little, quite a bit extra actually, you can purchase a VIP badge, which gets you into exclusive events like dinners with the world renowned experts and things like that.
Sounds cool.
I really want to go.
Oh my gosh.
And this isn't like Sparky's cruise line.
This is Royal Caribbean.
Yeah.
Like this is legit.
It is a big old ship.
Somebody is so smart making so much money.
They're like, you know what?
True crime's a thing.
Everybody loves it.
Let's just make a cruise out of it.
Yeah.
Duh.
Cause they already have CrimeCon.
Right.
And I would really love to go to CrimeCon.
You should go.
But then they were like, why don't we bump this up a notch and make it even better?
Put it on the water.
You wanna see Paul Hulz in a swimsuit?
Paul Hulz, I can't not laugh when you say Paul Hulz.
Yeah, his name is silly, but he's so cute.
Anyway, crimecruise.
com was my only source.
That's all you need.
That's really all I needed.
It would cost me about, because you have to, they depart from Miami.
Okay.
So I'd have to get down to Miami.
So who knows what the airfare would be to do that.
And then to, I'd probably have to stay the night in a hotel.
Maybe not.
It depends on when it departs.
Right.
So you gotta add in all that stuff.
And what's not included is stuff like a drinks package.
Right.
Let me tell you.
And those are expensive.
Sean and I went on a cruise and we bought a drinks package.
We said if we ever did that again, we would not buy the drinks package because there is water and tea, like iced tea on the cruise we were on.
Yeah.
For free everywhere.
Huh.
So we weren't.
.
.
We're like, we're not going to waste our money on that ever again.
Yeah.
Wasn't worth it.
Plus when you're on a cruise ship, I don't know if y'all know, but when you're in windy conditions, you get dehydrated so fast and it be windy on a cruise.
Oh yeah.
And so you need to be drinking water all the time.
Yes.
So don't mess with the drinks.
You don't need to get drunk.
That's true.
I would probably only have like one a night anyway.
Just just buy.
your drink straight up.
Yeah.
And then just drink water.
There were some other things that they said weren't included, oh, like excursions.
Oh, for sure.
Because you do get to, I mean, it's just like a regular cruise.
Yeah, it's just a theme.
Yeah, it's just a theme and it just has sessions that you can attend on the ship when you're at sea, on your days at sea.
Yes.
But then you've got your excursions and so excursion activities that you would pay extra for, like snorkeling or whatever, that's not included.
But yeah.
I approve.
I think you should go.
I think it'd be so much fun.
Yeah, I think so too.
So I think that's gonna be my birthday present to myself in 2025.
Wonder if Heather could just scoot on down to Miami and meet you.
Scootal.
Oh, she would love it.
That would be fun.
Yeah, she's into all that stuff too.
Nice.
She watches Dateline.
She listens to the Dateline podcast.
Yeah.
Heather, start saving your money.
She loves Keith Morrison.
Who doesn't?
She doesn't, but I do.
I love the SNL Keith Morrison skits.
I love the real Keith Morrison.
I think he is a really excellent person.
Oh my goodness.
And just like, I mean, he commits.
Yeah, he does.
He commits to that whole persona.
I wonder what he's like in- It's great.
in real life.
You think he's like that?
I've heard he's a nice person.
Oh, I'm sure he is.
But I think, I don't know if he's that over the top.
I think that that's an affect.
But I bet a little bit.
I mean, he's been doing it so long after a while, it just becomes who you are.
So long.
Yeah.
How old is he?
Do you know?
I love him.
I don't know.
But sweet angel baby Keith Morrison, listen to me.
This is a rough summer for celebrities.
They are dropping like flies.
You need to take care of yourself, Keith Morrison.
And Colin Firth, let's name all the celebrities who need to take good care of themselves.
Why would you even say it?
But I mean, we just lost Bob Newhart.
I know.
Who else did we lose?
Oh, Shannon Doherty just died.
And Richard Simmons.
Richard Simmons, which.
People have been wondering about whether he's alive for a long time.
That, yeah, that's, that was weird.
That's a weird situation.
Who else?
There was somebody else.
Oh, last week we talked about Shelley Duvall.
Oh, Dr.
Ruth.
Oh yeah.
Sweet baby sex therapist.
Dr.
Ruth.
Oh no, not baby sex therapist.
Anyway, um, let's get off that topic.
Yeah, let's do.
What about this one, Cara?
This?
segment is where we do a quick listing of our other searches for the past week that we didn't have time to discuss or we're too what damn boring yeah boring yep all right first one for Cara Burch Alec Baldwin trial dismissed mmm jugs machine I'm not even kidding you know what that is it's the machine that throws the footballs or throws the baseballs okay it's called jugs it's Whatever.
Kiwi skin edible.
Period underwear.
JD Vance.
I mean, I mean, okay.
Downton Abbey prequel.
Can't wait.
NFL Sunday ticket.
So expensive.
Oh my gosh.
NFL red zone.
Oh, so expensive.
Josh McDaniels.
Who's that?
He's a coach.
Yeah, Raiders guy.
We've got axed.
Yeah, yeah.
Will Aaron Rodgers play this year?
Full question.
Alf asparagus song.
Oh my gosh, we should have played that for everybody.
I can sing it for you.
You have it memorized?
Yep.
Asparagus, asparagus, put it on the table.
Asparagus, asparagus, make you feel more able.
That's right.
make you feel Aunt Mabel.
That's it, because Willie had, yes, and he changed it.
Oh my gosh.
When Brean sings, make you feel Aunt Mabel, I about peed my pants.
There were lots of double entendres that when I first watched that back in the day, when I learned that song-ish, learned it kind of, went way over my head.
But there were some things where I was like, Oh my gosh.
I know.
That's funny.
The costume was killing me too.
Oh my gosh.
Anyway, I had to look that up.
Uh, Trump shooting, pineapple whip locations, slap box pizza, Springfield, Missouri, Dr.
Ruth death, Shannon Doherty death, seven brew gift card.
I hate that place.
And route 66 festival.
Um, something you said, oh, you said I hate that place.
Oh, I can't stand it.
It's disgusting.
Okay.
Well, it was going to be my new coffee place.
Oh, really?
Well, yeah, because I can't go to Starbucks anymore.
Well, I thought you went to Dunkin anyway.
I guess I could go to Dunkin now, but they're not that much better.
Here are mine.
What about this one searches?
Yes, please.
Big mamas.
Oh, I love big mamas.
Me too.
Dunkin Contributions Political.
Trader Joe's political stances.
Pretend podcast.
Project 2025, companies supporting Project 2025.
Too many.
Starbucks RNC sponsorship.
Bye Starbucks.
Mwah, mwah.
Smell you later.
Car duster.
Oh.
Sassafras mat inserts.
You're a Sassafras mat insert.
I am.
Wish I was, they're so cute.
Kate Dickey, Game of Thrones.
Oh, who's that?
She was the lady who was breastfeeding her child way too long and she fell down the moon.
What was that called?
The moon something?
The moon hole?
Yeah.
Ha ha ha.
We probably had a really clever name for her like, titty baby mama or something.
Oh jeez, that was the most uncomfortable thing.
Anyway, I saw her in an episode of Shetland, which is a police procedural that I love.
I wanna watch that.
It's amazing, their Scottish accents are unbelievable.
But she was in an episode and I was like, how do I know that woman?
I know that woman from somewhere, but I think she was dressed like in period clothing or you know, something like that.
And I was like, and she was weird in the thing I watched her in.
What was it?
So I had to look it up and all your suspicions were confirmed.
And then I was like, she was in Game of Thrones.
So then I had to search her name with Game of Thrones to get some stills of her in the actual show.
And I was like, holy crap.
She was.
She was moon hole titty baby mama.
That was not a baby.
You're right.
He'll always be her baby.
Okay.
Polonus portable AC replacement parts.
Yeah.
1978 Honda Civic.
78?
Yeah.
I wanted to see what it looked like.
Unsweetened granola.
Bananas live slash banana land at sea.
Shut up.
They did a cruise too.
fun.
Trey Crowder, blue room.
That's who I was trying to think of last week.
Trey Crowder, dollar store items online.
Oh, treasure chest weatherproof past tense of forecast.
What is the past tense of forecast or forecasted forecasted.
Okay.
They're both correct.
Interesting.
Any shout outs.
I have zero shout outs.
I don't have any either.
Um, I liked that you and I both chimed in on our own social media.
I'm just going to start talking to myself.
I composed, I composed the social media post and then I replied on it.
Yeah.
When I saw it, I was like, Oh, I'll reply to that.
Also, I tried to sell some shiz and nobody is interested.
I know.
Come on y'all.
This is a nice couch.
Nobody wants.
.
.
Glass desk.
Nobody wants your rejects.
So much Beatles memorabilia.
Oh no.
You name it, I've got it.
Hey, contact Jen Bolch.
Really?
She's a huge Beatles fan.
I will.
Oh my gosh, I will.
She might be interested.
Jen! Yeah.
Okay.
Alright.
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That's it.
Those are all the ways.
That is a song by someone.
All the ways.
We can't afford it.
Okay, yeah, you're right.
She's popular, but I can't think of her name.
Is it?
Megan.
Is it current?
Megan Trainor.
Oh, that's why I would not know.
Not a Megan Trainor fan.
I don't know anything anymore.
I'm that old person.
You're still listening to Everclear and Marcy Playground.
Yes, I am.
I smell sex and candy.
Eat that song.
It wasn't that their only song.
They did have others.
Did they?
I thought they were one hit wonder.
But that was the most popular one.
I like that song actually.
You do?
I'm gonna get some in her.
They just played it so much on the radio.
Oh, it was way overplayed, but you know.
Come on.
Let's go to the Ozark Empire Fair and listen to it again.
It's the first one they'll sing, you know it is.
Oh yeah, they gotta get the crowd warmed up.
Gotta get them warmed up.
Mm, mm, mm.
Ha ha ha.
All right, let's call this one in the books.
Okay, I guess I'll just go home.
and delete my history.
I'm gonna stay here in my home and delete my history.
You're so lucky.
I know, that's why I've been having a beverage.
Yes.
Because I ain't going anywhere.
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