I don't like how Netflix now tells you only have one episode left. Only two episodes left. Hey, jerk. I actually kind of like it because I'm like, I don't. I'm like, oh good. That's only two hours. That means it's giving me permission to sit here for two more hours. You only have two hours left go for it lady. Yeah, come on take a bathroom, break grab a little Debbie come on back. I know it feels like an encouragement, like only two episodes left! Okay maybe that's how I'll look at it this see I was looking at it negatively like, you've only got one left you better soak this up and enjoy it, cause it's over and then you should probably get up and do something like, I don't know, laundry or, I don't know, clean your cesspool of a home. Or, I don't know, like walk in place. Oh, walking in place is a great idea. So, you don't get a blood clot? (theme song) Welcome to episode 41 of Delete This History a podcast by two besties of a certain age searching for answers. We're your hosts Brea Brown. I'm Cara Burch. Yes, you are. Hi, Hello Cara breezin in here sliding in like a Duke boy across the Generally pretty much. Sorry, she did she slid across the table. It's end of fiscal year y'all It was a sight to see. And I'm just going to tell you ahead of time, I'm going to apologize to you, an offer to edit this episode. Why? Because I was saving my rundown last night. It was late. Yeah. And as I hit save, it was all finished and beautiful and nice. And it became corrupted. And I lost everything. What the? So, I had to rewrite it today. the whole thing from memory, because I had nothing and I had deleted my history. Oh my gosh. And I already had plans to meet Tim and Sally for lunch, so I couldn't use my lunch break to, so I took vacation time during my day today at work. So, I could try and throw this thing together. Oh my gosh. This may be a hot mess on my side, but I'm gonna do my best. How stressful is that? I'm a little stressed. Oh my gosh. So, if this goes badly and I'm stumble fumble like I was last week. Well, you had a problem last week with your document too. Yes, I did. I had that was that was that was operator error. OK, this I don't know what happened. Oh, just the file was just like. (computer corruption noises) It's like your foot when it gets a cramp. And you're driving. Oh my gosh, I've never had that happen. And then you crash. I would, that would be terrible. Well, I have some bookmarks. Oh good, I have some too. You think you do. I think I do. I think I had some. Where yours? My first bookmark is a new notebook. Everybody loves a new notebook. And mine is a buried bones notebook because I love that podcast. It's old cases. It's like historical cases. Okay. Um, and Paul Holes, you know, my man, Paul, Paul Holes, formerly of Contra Costa County, he co-hosted it with a historian named Kate Winkler Dawson. And it's an amazing podcast. And so I got some merch. And it's a Buried Bones- It's super nice notebook with like a spot for dates at the top. And the paper is really nice. Anyway, I got that so that I could write down my bookmarks. Because every week when I do my rundown. I sit here and I think, what the hell have I even done this week? What do I like? What do I not like? Yes. But earlier in the week, when I'm experiencing things, I'm like, oh, this is a good bookmark. Yes. I know what you mean. And I never write it down, never make a note of it. And then it's gone. Okay. Thursday night. So, I got that. Nice. The Perfect Wife docuseries on Hulu. Okay. Holy crap. It is a great story. It's about the disappearance of Sherry Papini back in like 2006. She was a housewife out in Northern California and she disappeared one day, out on a jog and then events unfurled. So, it's a four-part docu-series. It is wild. Okay. Hulu. Got it. And Welcome to Wrexham. It's that show on Hulu with Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhaney. They bought that football club in Wales. Hilarious. Okay. And touching and heartwarming. The people in that town are just so amazing. Okay. I've been catching up on that because I'm behind. They have three seasons. I had only watched one. Okay. So, I've been binging the crap out of it and having dreams about it because that's what happens when you watch like six episodes a night, but it's really good. I think those are all my bookmarks. I do have a skip it though. Okay. What is it? Perimenopause. Just skip it. Oh, okay. It sucks. I will. If you can, the minute you start having symptoms, just go to your doctor and say, yank that shit out. That would be nice. I think I'm gonna do it. Yeah? I think I am. In August when I go, I'm just gonna be like, listen, I don't need this anymore. Yeah. It is adversely affecting my life. All it is like a tumor collector at this point. True. Get it out. Interesting. We'll see what they say about that. Okay. She'll probably be like, I don't think so. Unless we have to. Well. I'll say, well, I'm saying you do have to. Be prepared to advocate for yourself, because. I just really want it to be gone. I understand. Anyway, skip it. OK. Skip perimenopause, people. I have two bookmarks. OK. Remember we talked about The Gentleman? Oh, yes. OK. I watched the movie. Yes. It's good. Yeah. And it has some of the same plot lines. Yes. But it's a completely different movie. Okay. Um, or completely different plot story. Yeah. Story. Thank you. Yeah. Hello. But there's just enough of the sameness of the television show that you're like, well, what's going to happen next though? Cause in the TV show this happened. It's really good. It's like when you read a book and then you watch the movie based on the book and you're like, are they going to stay true to the book or is this going to go a different way? So, I thought this was really interesting. Cause obviously he did this first and then took that and turned it into a series and the series I believe is better. Yeah. But I would recommend watching the movie. I thought it was pretty interesting. Interesting. Okay. My second bookmark is TV again. Um, you were talking about how you watched New World, which was super old. Oh my gosh. Yes. It was not new. I've got you beat. What'd you, what'd you watch? Not last night, night before Sean and I watched the fifth element. Oh my gosh. Now I have seen that a couple of times and I kind of vaguely remembered liking it. And Sean was like, well, I've never seen it. And I was like, we're watching this tonight. come on. 1997. I hate that movie. I watched it. Okay, here's why. Why? Because I watched it on my honeymoon in the hotel room. It was on and I fell asleep because it was so boring and I hated it so much. And then I woke up during a part where that weird lady alien thing was singing. Yes. and it freaked me out. You know how when you're half asleep and things just plus I was like what 18 years old? I was so young. And it like ruined me. Oh my word on that movie. So, anyway, but I'm glad you enjoyed it. Yeah, it was really good. I enjoyed it. Bruce Willis, baby. Oh gosh. Um, I have an avoidance. Oh. Um, leaving your deep freeze open overnight. Oh no. I would skip it. You guys. What did you lose? Everything. Tuesday night, I went out, opened the deep freeze, which is in our garage. Yeah. Got something out, went back in. And I'm always so conscious of closing that door because it's not on a spring hinge. So, you have to like physically shove it, hold it closed, listen for the hiss. Yes. Of it sealing itself. So, it's an upright, it's not a chest. Correct. It's an upright like a refrigerator is. Something happened. I didn't get it closed. I don't know how. How did I not close it? So, I walked out the next morning to my car to leave for work and I saw this trail of water across the garage. I was like, what is that? I turned and looked and it was just standing wide open. Lost. everything. It was open all night. Oh shit and it has been hotter than hot. So, hot. So, there was I don't know how much money. I don't even know. Don't think about it. I'm trying not to. Sean, bless his heart. He's I've been beating myself up because I'm so mad about it but he's been really nice and he even went to Sam's last night and like you know restocked because we had ground beef out there. We had, oh my gosh, they, someone gave us this massive brisket. It was like this big. You guys, it was over a foot and a half. Like, it's a little over a foot. Oh my gosh. It was probably 16, 17 inch. And they gave it to us when Roy passed away. Just as like, hey, we know you're going through a lot of stuff. We, we didn't want to make you another meal cause everybody's making you meals. So, here's a brisket, freeze it, use it when you can use it. Ruined. That is such a bummer. So, anyway, hey, skip it. Don't do that. That happened to my mom once. I think her freezer went bad. It just died. Yeah, see, I wouldn't. Everybody who's had a deep freezer has had some kind of experience like that. Either the power has gone out, or it's just gone on the fritz, or they've left it open, or whatever. I think that's such a universal experience that people lose. Yeah, but being a dumbass and just not closing it. That's kind of a different level. But you thought you closed it. It wasn't like you were like, I'm just gonna leave this open. Okay. I forgot one. I have one more skip it. It's real fast. Don't clean your bathtub. Cause when you clean it, it gets squeaky clean and your foot slips off the edge when you're shaving your legs. Oh no. And then you hyper extend your knee and then you feel like you're 85 years old. Oh no. I was just shaving and shaving and shaving. Squeak. And I, my foot just went down so hard and I was leaning forward of course. Yeah, yeah. And it just hot my knee to hyper extended and now we're lucky I didn't go down. Cause all right, but I didn't hyper extend it like really, really bad. It was just enough that I felt everything. Yeah. See, we're at an age now where the bathtub is the most dangerous thing in our house. Yes. So, don't clean your bathtub. I cleaned it so well. It was just like ska-weeki clean and slick. Unless you have a mandolin slicer. then that is the most dangerous thing in your house. Oh my God. But if you don't have one of those, then your bathtub is. Right. Don't take your mandolin slicer into the bathtub, whatever you do. Brea, Brea, don't do it. I won't. I only have one more pinky. It kind of grew back. Anyway, we're not here to talk about self-amputated fingertips. No. Or sliding naked around our bathtubs. We're here to tell you about our internet search histories. How do we do it, Cara? With The Reading of the Lists. In this segment, we tell you our top three most interesting, funniest, most successful searches of the week in list form. My list for this week is stiff person syndrome. Stiff person wait a second nope, you can't Ringo-Levio game and braai meaning. All right. Okay. Okay, here's mine. Number one, Hallmark Christmas movie filmed in Kansas City. Number two, Devils on horseback etymology. I had to look it up. Number three, frozen abdomen. Whoa. Okay. This is gonna be interesting. Uh-huh. So, uh, without further ado, let's play a little game we like to call. Search Me! Where we each pose one question to each other and see if we can answer based only on The Reading of the Lists, which we just did and was very weird. Okay, Cara, this week. What am I playing for? Is it a two week old orange? Nope. You already ate it. You're playing for these refills for the multi-pen. The multi-pen! I took that thing to work. I love it. I bet you're about ready for some refills. I probably am, yeah. Because I needed refills. Oh, okay. And so I was like, oh goodness. Then that must mean she does. So, there you go. Okay, yeah, yeah. They're all bundled together so you don't have to buy all the individual little refills. Thank you. You're very welcome. If I win. If you win, correct. Okay. Today your question is, which thing did I look up as a pleasant distraction from watching a really depressing and drawn out 30 for 30? Do you know what 30 for 30s are? They're like sports documentaries. Oh. About Oscar Pistorius. Oh yes. That Clint and I never actually finished. Oh. Why is it called 30 for 30? I don't know. I actually had that question myself. Okay. All right. Cause it's not 30 minutes. That's what I was wondering. Okay. I'm gonna go with stiff person syndrome. Oh noes. Try again. Braai meaning? Yes. Oh. Now I was. I was thinking bra, like I'm wearing. Yeah. But that's B-R-A-A-I, is what you're saying. Yes. Tell us all about it. But it's pronounced a brah. Brah. Like, brah, what are you doing? Just kidding. No, it's not that either. My kids say brah to me all the time. I'm like, I'm not your brah. Here we go. What is a braai? Mm-hmm. It is an abbreviation of the word bravlais, I believe, meaning grilled meat. What? It originates from the Dutch word brauden, which means to roast. Oh. Now, in South Africa, they use the term bra like we would barbecue or cook out, but it's very specific. To roasting meat over an open fire. Okay. Often using aromatic wood. Oh. Mm-hmm. To smoke it real nice. Trafalgar.com, there's a thing, says South Africans will have a braai to celebrate almost any occasion or achievement or to simply to get the gang together. Many families host a small braai once a week and do a big braai for the extra special occasions. When I was writing that I was like that's gonna be a problem. You were right. Big bra. Here's how it came up in the documentary. Now to refresh some people's memories first Oscar Pistorius was the South African Paralympic champion. Yes. Who shot his girlfriend and then claimed that he mistook her for an intruder. Yes. And that it was an accident. Yes. Okay. So, in this documentary, a friend of his who was also friends with his girlfriend. Oh, think about how hard that would be. Yeah. Okay. So, he was friends with both of them. And he was invited to a braai. And he was told that Oscar would be there. And he was kind of ambivalent about it because he was like, man, I just don't know. Like, I miss Reva. And I'm grieving for my friend. At the same time, he didn't want to be a dick. And if his other friend, if it truly was an accident, and his other friend needed him, yeah, you know, you don't want to be a jerk about it. Because he is like, as torn up as you would be about it, he's like 10 times more torn up because it's his fault. Right. I mean, the guilt. So, anyway, this braai took place. between when he was let out on bail and before his trial. So, yeah. He ended up going and he and Oscar talked briefly, but he said it was awkward. Oh, I'm sure. But anyway, when that word came up, I was like, what the hell's a braai? I could kind of get the meaning, like watching the reenactment and the, you know, whatever. It's like, okay, so it's a get together, but what does that mean? Like, what do they do there? Eat meat. Fire and meat. Uh, my sources were africandreamfoods.com, thesavannah.co.uk, 30 for 30, The Life and Trials of Oscar Pistorius, and Trafalgar.com. Wow. Deep search. A little bit, but you win. Oh, yay. Thank you. You're welcome. Brea. Yeah. Today, you are playing for this very coveted. Rib crib mug. Sweet. That's not a mug. Or a mug cup. Rib crib cup. I love it. I like the color. I do too. I have a problem with cups. Oh, me too. We have so many, but this means I can throw some away. This one's, I don't know. I like it. Cause this one's new. It's new or you could use it for like a pin cup. Like put some pins in there. Yeah. Anyway. I love it. Okay, Brea, which of my searches reminded me immediately of your Underdog series of books? Oh lord, Hallmark Christmas movie filmed in KC? That's it! Yay! You got it! This one was kind of cheating because it wasn't really a search. I was reading news in bed yesterday as I love to do before work. And I saw an article about a Hallmark Channel Christmas movie being filmed entirely in Kansas City this summer. Ooh. The Kansas City Chiefs will be featured in this movie. Oh my gosh. It is called Holiday Touchdown, a Chiefs love story. Oh my gosh. Not only will it be filmed throughout Kansas City, filming will also take place inside Arrowhead Stadium. Synopsis. I cannot wait to see this movie. Holiday Touchdown, a Chiefs love story follows Alana Higman and her family, who are Chiefs super fans and hopeful front runners for the team's fan of the year contest. Chiefs Director of Fan Engagement, Derek, is tasked with evaluating how Alana and her family stack up against other contestants. As Alana and Derek begin to spend more time together, a special bond forms. Of course. However, things go awry when Grandpa's vintage chief's hat goes missing. Alanna begins to doubt her fate, destiny, and her relationship with Derek unless a little Christmas magic can throw a Hail Mary. Wait a minute. Derek is played by Tyler Hines and Alanna is played by Hunter King which they are apparently Hallmark royalty or something? Yes, they're like, regulars. So, this is her. Oh yes, I've seen her in things. This. I'm not even that big on Hallmark movies. Oh, hello. Rawr. Hello. Derek. This is Derek. That sounded wrong because I have a nephew named Derek and he's my godson and I should never say hello, Derek like that. You did have to tell yourself though, but my sister that's her son. She listens. Okay, we're talking about an actor. Yes, who is oh and his name is Tyler. Okay. Yeah, I can say oh Tyler. That's not weird. Yes So, these two in this movie the best part is a Lana's grandfather is played by Ed Bagley Jr. I love him. I do too. Oh my gosh, I love him. Hallmark and the Chiefs intend for this movie to be a long lasting collaboration with game day activities, unique merchandise and special promotions. Brea's going to buy it all. Yeah. This is a quote from Hallmark, “By blending the warmth of Hallmark storytelling with the excitement of professional football, we're thrilled to give audiences a front row seat to this community's spirit, rich traditions and passionate fans.” When the Kelsey brothers are doing their podcasts, what did they call when people have these crazy stats that are so ridiculous? LeBron stats. LeBron stats, thank you. Here's a LeBron stat for you. Yeah. 50% of Hallmark Channel watchers also watched sports last year during the channel's countdown to Christmas. So, in 2023, yes, while they're watching Hallmark movies in the countdown to Christmas, they're also watching sports sometimes too. Yes, that's right. Half of them. LeBron stat. That is a dumb LeBron stat. Production begins July 6th, which will be after this episode airs. Oh, you're right. And how can we be extras? The casting company was looking for extras. I went online and clicked on the application, and they said, thank you, but we are no longer taking any applications. What, what, what? But they needed people to be in the stands to be around them during games. All pretty people. Oh my God. So, yes, you had to submit a headshot and then a full body shot. Those were two of the requirements. I would have sent in. A holes. that whole body shot of me wearing all my chiefs gear, including that hat that has like the little braids that come down. Yeah. I look so simple in that picture. That's the one I would have sent because I'm just standing there like, hmm. Simple? That's what I would have said. I would have been like, listen, this is what real Chiefs fans look like. That's right. That's exactly right. But no, we only want pretty people. Hallmark. Fine, whatever. Get over yourself. And why didn't Hallmark call me? Right. I've got four or five books already written. They could have just adapted one of my books. Exactly. And the conflict is so much better than just a missing freaking hat. Yes. That's the conflict. This special hat goes missing. I don't know if she thinks Derek took it. I don't know. I mean, that's the inciting moment anyway. Yes, exactly. You've got to be kidding me. Bug. Right meow, meow. Meow. Now, I don't care for Hallmark movies myself, but we're gonna have to watch this one. Well. My family has a tradition. Oh yeah? We're part of the 50% who watch Hallmark, the run up to Hallmark, Christmas or whatever, and sports during that time. Because it's football season, we watch football. Of course. And we also have a little Christmas tradition where we watch Hallmark movies and completely make fun of them. We just sit there and basically bag on these movies. Okay. Well, so. You'll have access to this one then. I won't probably be able to watch it. So, I think we have the Hallmark channel. I'm going to come over then on YouTube TV. Excellent. Okay. So, sources Springfield News Leader, USA Today, and the Kansas City Star. I cannot wait. It's gonna be fun. It is going to be fun. But do you see where it reminded me of your books? Absolutely. Also, before we move on, I think you need to ride this wave. Uh-huh. And like, get- Cross-promote. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, yeah. If you liked Hallmark's- Yeah. What was it again? Holiday Touchdown, A Chief's Love Story. Yes. If you like that, you'll love the Underdog series. The Underdog series. Because it's not just some office dude promoter. We're talking about a football player. Yeah. See, I think they missed the mark on that. Let's get real here. Yeah. Agreed. I mean, unreal. Theirs is more realistic. Let's be Frank. Another Brea Brown series. Okay, here we go. We have so much shared history in my books. Yeah. That I've bored you with for 20 years. Not true. Anyway, it's time for another type of history though. Yes, what kind? This shared history. Yes. Is about when we search things on the interwebs and why we search it and what we learned. Cool. Yes. I get to go first this week. And I will not leave you in suspense. Because first we're going to talk about stiff person syndrome. Oh, thank goodness. Because I know you giggled. And the first time I saw this term, I giggled as well, but this is a bummer. So, And it is a real thing. Okay, go ahead. I have something to say about this, but go ahead, maybe this will clear it up in my head. Okay. I was flicking through click bait news. So, this is kind of a cheat too, Cara. Okay. Cause I was doing that thing where I write swipe and I look at the news that Google tells me, you should probably think this is interesting. And it's been listening to our conversations about other shared history that we have because. It wanted me to know about this story, about this documentary, new documentary featuring Celine Dion. That's where, oh my gosh. Okay. It is called, I am Celine. Celine Dion, for those of you who don't know, my little Jacki, age eight, after seeing a montage of clips of her acting crazy, said, she is a son of a bitch. Just unsolicited, we all about fell on the floor. Anyway, in this documentary, she opens up about her current health struggles. She's suffering from a horrifying stuff of nightmares condition called stiff person syndrome. which is a terrible name. Yes, I agree. I mean, it doesn't have to be Greek or Latin or something, but can we please give it a more dignified name? Right. That is a terrible name. It used to be called stiff man syndrome. At least now they've made it so that it's an equal opportunity syndrome. Great. With a terrible name. Thank you so much, men. Right. SPS is what I'm going to be calling it from now on. Okay, let's do that. Yeah. I watched a particular clip where she is suffering through what looks like a full body spasm. Like she's on a massage table and she's face down with her face in the donut hole, you know? And she is rigid. And how it all started was she was recording a song and she got a foot cramp. Oh! Yep. I know we just talked about feet cramps. She got a foot cramp and then it just took over her whole body. My word. So, she's on this massage table and two people are helping her through what looks like a seizure. Like it looks, cause she's even like kind of not convulsing hard, but you know, twitching because her, her whole body is in a spasm. She can't talk during it, but she's aware of everything going on around her. Her muscles are just locked up. And so to communicate during the spasm, she squeezes the hand of one of her attendants. Oh my gosh. It looks extremely painful and scary. It just looks like, like when I have a seizure, there's a part of my brain that's triggered that is the same part of my brain that's triggered. if I am scared. It's like your fight or flight instinct. Good grief. Just because of the, where the seizures happen in my brain. And so it looks like that type of thing. Her brain and her body are telling her, you are in danger, you are, you know, and she can't do anything about it. She's just stuck. Gosh. So, what is this nightmare condition? SPS is a rare chronic and progressive autoimmune neurological disorder that causes muscle stiffness and painful spasms. A-dur. In addition to the obvious symptoms and those described and seen in the Celine Dion clip, sufferers may also experience greater sensitivity to noise, touch, and emotional distress. An unsteady gait, double vision, and slurred speech. It's often misdiagnosed as fibromyalgia, Multiple sclerosis and other neurological disorders that are hard to say. Wow. It usually develops in people between the ages of 40 and 50. Oh, yes. Great. And but sometimes occurs in children or older adults. Ugh. So. So, nobody's safe. Nobody's safe. So, what sets off a spasm? It's usually when a person with SPS is surprised or startled. Oh, dang. No surprise parties for these people. Oh my gosh. Or moves suddenly. Oh. And cold temperatures and emotional stress can also trigger a spasm. So, anything, basically. So, stay calm. Move to Florida. Don't shock yourself. You're right. And don't move quickly. Right. That's terrible! Also, certain exercises or touch can bring on an episode. So, don't touch this person. Don't have anybody touch you. No hugs. Yeah, I would imagine like stretching, any of those kind of exercises, because anytime your muscles are engaged. because sometimes that's when I get that foot cramp is when I stretch or I do something like that or you get a charley horse because you stretch your leg and all of a sudden it's like rah. Yeah, exactly. Changes in spine alignment over time due to spasms can also lead to spinal cord compression. Oh gosh. Your lower back starts to curve outwards. It affects about one to two people in a million. My word it's fairly rare however researchers are discovering it may be more common than originally thought as it appears to be a spectrum of disorders and a lot of times it is misdiagnosed. Right? Oh, my word there are multiple forms, but I'm only going to talk about three Okay, and these almost sound like value meal menu offerings unfortunately Classic SPS is the common form It's more generalized with stiffness and spasms in the lower back legs, sometimes abdomen, sometimes your chest. So, it's hard to breathe. People with classic SPS walk with a stiff gait and are in pain most of the day. Then you have partial SPS, which is sometimes called stiff limb syndrome. And that's when it affects one or a couple of your limbs or whatever. Okay. It's also called stiff trunk syndrome sometimes. Stiff leg syndrome. So, whatever it's affecting more specifically is what they call it. Tight muscles and spasms are limited to a specific area. Now, SPS plus, here's the one that sounds like really, this is not something you can get from your cable provider. It's a combination of classic SPS along with other symptoms that suggest brain stem or other cerebellar dysfunctions like lack of coordination, double vision and slurred speech. So, if you have things like that going on, it signifies that your brain is somehow also involved in the syndrome. And that's called SPS plus your brain. Correct. Who is naming these diseases? I don't know. Um, and then there are other types too, and other different combinations, but they're less common and they don't really have good names like SPS plus. So, what causes this? Experts are still learning. It's believed to be an autoimmune condition in which the immune system attacks healthy tissues, like MS, like all those where all of a sudden your body just betrays you. It affects women more than men, yay! And they diagnose it using a combination of blood test, electromyography. EMG, which evaluates the body's nerve and muscle function, a lumbar puncture, and other imaging studies like PET scan, MRI, CT scan. Medications you can take to help relieve the symptoms are muscle relaxers, Botox, and serotonin reuptake inhibitors, SSRIs. Non-medicinal treatments include physical therapy, aquatic therapy in warm water, heating pads. Transcutaneous electrical nerve stimulation. That sounds. Right? Pleasant. Stretching, although don't stretch too hard. Right? Osteopathic manipulation, chiropractic therapy, massage, yoga, acupressure or acupuncture, Pilates, and cognitive behavioral therapy. Oh my gosh. Data is limited about the effects of diet or dietary changes to treat symptoms, but I would imagine they would want you to be on anti-inflammatory types of foods. You know how if you have arthritis or anything like that, they put, sometimes they say, hey, stay away from these foods because they cause inflammation. There's no cure. But working with a specialist and maintaining symptom control can make living with the condition somewhat more bearable. So, my sources were I am Celine Dion, NBC News, and Hopkinsmedicine.org. Scary. When you said that, when you said stiff person syndrome, I was like reminded and was thinking where have I heard that? I've heard that like this week. Really? Yes. Probably because that her thing just came out. I looked it up. Did you really? Yes, because I saw her I saw that son of a bitch and I looked up, I looked up the, I watched the trailer for it. I was like, what's this about? And then I had to look up what that was and Sean and I were just flabbergasted horrified and I feel sorry for her. I mean, for more than one reason, but people were giving her so much crap about losing all that weight and like, she's getting too skinny and she's trying to starve herself. Do you remember that? It's been a long, like it's been a while back. Yes, I do remember that. And they were just giving her such a hard time. I was like, you a-holes. That just goes to show you, you don't know what's going on in somebody's life. It's none of your business. That's exactly right. Leave it alone. That's terrible. I feel bad for her. And then I looked up, just watching her in that trailer. I thought, seriously, Brea, I thought she was like late 60s, early 70s, because she just looked so awful. Just so, I don't know, she just looked awful. Yeah. She's 56. 56 yeah, they show her a lot without makeup on without her hair like her hair is real thin Yeah, she just but then she was at that at the premiere of that Documentary oh yeah with her son who is all grown up. I know Holy crap, and he's really good looking too, and she looked phenomenal, good. She had, cause you know, she had all the makeup on. I'm sure she was wearing a wig. Oh yeah, probably. But I mean, she looked amazing. Well good. I hope that. But it just shows you that makeup and hair and yeah. Like dressing nice will go a long way. Yes. I should try it sometime. Me too. All right. Yeah, it's a bummer though, because Yeah, it really is. She really, she can't. She can't perform the way things are now. Yeah. And she really wants to get back to performing, but she can't. Yeah, I don't know how she would. She's very active on stage. It makes me sad because now I can't make fun of her anymore. No. She was one of my favorite people to make fun of because she was very kooky. She's kooky. There's no. She's very woo. Yeah. She's woo woo. She's always been extremely eccentric. Yes. And a real easy target for people like me who are mean. But now I can't be, cause like hello, that's just not right. I looked up her twins, cause I had forgotten that she had twins. What? Yeah, she had twins with Renee. I thought Renee Charles was the only one she had with him. No, she had the two little babies, which are, they are like 14 now I think. Oh my gosh, I totally forgot about them. Yeah, they're cute. Aww. Anyway, the transition to this topic is a little embarrassing. Let's just go. So, just hit it with devil's on horseback. Oh yeah. We talked about this last week and I've been thinking about them ever since because they're so effing delicious. These are bite size delicious appetizers. They're my favorite. Typically served around the holidays. Now the way we cook them and the way our friends cook them was you take dates, you wrap bacon around them. You bake them, you sprinkle a little brown sugar on top, and then you eat them until you pass out. Want to die. Cause they're so good. Yeah. Taste explosion. Exactly. Now, Martha Stewart says, not Alex J's mom. Correct. Martha Stewart with the ankle bracelet. That's the one. She says, the dried fruit that you use should be cut in half, and you should stuff cheese in there. Oh my God. Or cheese and an almond. Oh my gosh. Then you close it up, wrap it in bacon, put it in the oven. Oh, that would be so good. Like a soft cheese, like a goat cheese. Martha's recipe calls for Stilton. See, I'm not a big fan of Stilton cause it's like blue cheese. Yes, that's right. And the reason she uses Stilton is because these are from England originally. Devils on horseback are believed to have first appeared in the 19th century England served as a savory after the dessert course. But Martha prefers them upfront with a cocktail or a sparkling wine. As an appetizer, like we had them. Absolutely. Or just a meal. I'll just take one plate of devil's on horseback, please. That and sausage balls. Oh, man. I could get on a sausage ball right now, I’m so hungry! Now Martha says you could also swipe the date for a prune, or a dried apricot. Oh, that would be good. That would be delicious. She also says you could poach your dried fruit in wine or port before stuffing, wrapping and baking them. I know, isn't your mind just blown right now? That would be so good. I was like, Martha, you're so freaking smart. But she's making it harder than it needs to be. No, it would be worth the extra effort. Okay. She also suggests using a different blue cheese and maybe like a goat cheese or brie or cream cheese. That'd be good. Any of those except blue cheesy or Stilton. She also says, you know, once you get them all made up, serve them on points of toast. Fancy. That is fancy. We just had toothpicks. Or giant spoon. Hands. The origin. of the name Devils on Horseback is unclear. The Oxford English Dictionary states that they are quote, probably so called on account of being typically served very hot. And gives the earliest reference to 1885 in American Agriculture magazine, The Country Gentleman, another source suggests it was created as an alternative for angels on horseback. Do you want to guess what that is? Angels on horseback. It wouldn't be hot. It'd be cool. You're correct. You're on the right path. No, I don't know. Oysters wrapped in bacon. Oh! Barf. No, thank you. So, whoever invented devils on horseback, I'm team- We're team Satan. I am not putting an oyster in my mouth. Team Satan. Sources were MarthaStewart.com, Wikipedia, and Californiaprunes.com. Oh, I got it. There is a website for everything. Yes, there is. Are you ready for a little flashback? Yes, please. Okay, Ringo-Levio game. Oh, yes, okay. Okay. I was doing a logic puzzle. Holla. What? A logic puzzle? You do those. I do. And the goal of this puzzle was to match a young girl from the 70s with the school lunch that she ate that day, what she did on the playground that day, and how she got hurt on the playground. Oh, okay. The playground activities listed were things like Red Rover and hopscotch, you know, stuff like that. And one of them was Ringo Livio. Have you ever heard of this? Me neither. It is a game that reportedly originated in the streets of New York City as far back as the late 19th century. Now I put all those qualifiers there reportedly because I just know the minute you say that this is where it started, people like, no, we were doing it before then. And we called it this. And there are lots of different variations of this game. So, hang on to your sidewalk chalk. I don't know. In some neighborhoods such as Staten Island and in East Manhattan, it's called Ringo-lario. Okay. Or Lario. I don't know which one. A version in Northeast Philadelphia is called Freedom! Another Philadelphia version was called Spring, as in Spring from Jail. Oh, okay. In Canada, the game is known as Relivio. How have I never heard of this? Which is also the name reportedly used in Boston and Ireland in the 1950s. Are you ready to hear how to play Ringo-Levio, Ringo-Lario, Freedom, Spring, all these things? Yes please. It's basically hide and seek. Oh, but you have two equal teams group hide and seek. Big. Okay. There was one reported instance of a game being played in Philadelphia where there was like two teams of 40 kids. Crazy. You have two equal teams, one of which is the seeking team and the other is the hiding team. And unlike hide and seek, you can capture the hiders. and put them in a sort of jail. So, when you find them, you put them in jail. And the sources I saw mentioned like a park bench. This park bench is our jail, this park bench is your jail, or a front porch, or a stoop, or a brownstone stairs, or whatever. And then the other team has to guard their jail, but they're not allowed to just have one person like stationed at the jail. You have to keep track of your jail because people on the hiding team can. go and rescue and free the people on their team from the jail. I think I've played this. Have you? Like, I'm having a little tiny flashback of when you said that to free, the hiding team can free. Mm-hmm. Kind of remembering this a little bit. Now, what else does this remind you of, though? Are you getting a, are you feeling a call back to something else we've talked about on the show? You have to tag your other teammate back in when you free them. The game ends when one team has caught all of the members of the opposing team and then they switch out. Now if you can't find all the hiders and capture them and you give up, you say. What would you say? You would say. All in, all in, all in free yellow! What? Or, olly, olly oxen free. Oh, okay. Okay. Olly olly, oxen free! That's how they give up. That's how they forfeit, is to say, everybody's free. All in free. And then they switch out, and then the hiders become the seekers. Oh, okay. Okay. There are lots of different variations of the game and different rules depending on who's playing and who taught them how to play, blah blah. In some variations, for example, you have to hold on to your opponent long enough to say a certain phrase for them to be considered captured. Oh, that sounds like it could get violent. Correct. You would hold on to them and say, one, two, three, come with me, you're my prisoner. But if they can break away from you before you say it, you didn't get it. You didn't catch them. Or one, two, three, no brakes, safety lock. I like the other one because it kind of rhymes. my sources were Wikipedia kids.kittle.co kids.kittle.co okay I like it. Talkin about games and things. Isn't that interesting? It is interesting. But it kind of brings back the olly, olly oxen free. Where did that come from? And we were like I don't know you just used to say it and I don't know what it was from. All in all in all in free. Mm-hmm. Meaning everybody who's still in you're free. We give up, but they were saying like that it could these games could go on for days. Oh gosh. Pausing just to sleep and go to school and then it would start back up again and they would remember who was in the jail. Oh my gosh. Yeah That's like that movie Tag. Did you ever watch that? I don't think I did. It's cute. I mean, it's not cute but It's just kind of a fun movie. Jeremy Renner's in it and, um, oh gosh, the guy from the office, Andy. Oh yeah. What's his name? Ed something. Ed Helms, right? Yeah. Ed Helms. That's right. It's full of famous people and they have this years long game of tag. Oh wait a minute. I think I have seen it. Isn't John Hamm in it too? Yes, John Hamm is in it. It's not the best movie ever, but it was kind of fun to watch. It's just, it's silly. Yeah, it's a silly movie. Kind of like the hangover, you know, just goofy. Yeah. All right. What's your last search? All right. My last search is frozen abdomen. I can't wait. Sean met a friend last night for dinner and drinks. And so I had the TV to myself for a couple of hours. So, rather than watching, you know, something new, I dove back into Grey's Anatomy that I haven't watched in a long, long time. Brea hates that show. I love that show. I've watched it. I am. This is my third time through it. I love it. It's just, and I don't like. Now it's a comfort thing. Yeah, it totally is. Yeah, it's totally a comfort thing now. And I 100% understand that it is over the top dramatic. I know that, you know, I'm still watching it. I watched Downton Abbey and nobody criticizes me for that. Hey, that was a very dramatic show. It was very soap opera. Yeah. Anyway, there was a medical case where a woman had a frozen abdomen. So, I looked at it. What is that? Is that like stiff person syndrome? Well, no. Torso, trunk, nerve, stiff trunk. I'm about to tell you it's a really good try. Okay. I'm ready. You were close. A frozen abdomen is a, well, it is rare and stiff person syndrome is rare. Yes. It's a benign condition that occurs when adhesions form between the abdominal wall and the abdominal organs. Uhhh. It's a serious complication that can happen after a laparotomy. Which is basically they just cut your abdomen open to do something. This condition happens after the laparotomy incision closes with an incidence of 0.5 to 3%. Like, it's very, very rare. So, it fuses, like your organs fuse to the inside of your abdomen, is that what it's saying? That's the way I understand it, yes. Oh my God. Other causes include trauma after multiple abdominal interventions, previous musculoskeletal and abdominal trauma, gastric carcinoid tumors, appendiceal mucosal, and colonic polyps. Other names for the frozen abdomen include a burst abdomen, evisceration, wound dehiscence, and facial dehiscence. The only practical option for frozen abdomen is to postpone wound closure, with the goal of early restoration. On Grey's Anatomy, what happened, and of course this is fictional, so don't come at me people, just to let you know what was happening here. This woman, she had been a soldier in Iraq, and she had some kind of, like there was a bomb that went off, and she had an abdominal wound. Well, it never healed closed. Her abdomen was open, but she had like clear, surgical, placed packing or something over it. So, they were like, we can stretch your skin around, you know, your torso, and then that way we can pull the skin closed over your wound. Well, they got in there and they had to free up, because all of her organs, like you were saying, there was adhesions, so they had to like pull apart all of her organs and get them all loose in there again. And then when they went to close her up, they hadn't stretched the skin enough. Then Meredith Grey did groundbreaking surgery. Of course. And she did a abdominal transplant rather than like all of her organs were all there. So, they just went and found like the skin and the muscles from another person and they sewed her up and she was great. That is disgusting. This new podcast of ours is a medical show. That's what I'm saying. We've got frozen abdomen, we've got SPS. The older we get, the more it's gonna be that way. That is so stressful and so grody. And just another thing to like worry about. No, no, no. 3% chance it'll happen to you. I am very rarely around exploding bombs. So, that's good. Yes. You should be fine, I think. So, I'll stay away from all the fireworks in my neighborhood for the next month. Good plan. Excellent plan. Yeah. Whoa, Cara. Whoa. I know. What are your sources? Oh, Grey's Anatomy and Wikipedia. OK. But. What about this one? What about it? This is a quick listing of our other searches from the past week that we didn't have time to discuss in this episode or we're just too damn BORING. YA BORING! I actually had quite a few good things in my searches, but it was kind of just like a sentence Yes, I understand. Here we go Springfield man Jeopardy, He saw that he's living my dream, book banning rule South Carolina Boo South Carolina. Australian mystery series, 2024. Peloton bike, too expensive. Oh my gosh, I know. Casey Courant. Bowlin branch sheets. Too expensive, I'd rather go on vacation. I'm serious, it's comparable. Okay, Sally Ride, challenger. Oh, why? Long story. Okay. Berkeley Professor Murder, 1960s. Should have kept that one. You and your true crime. Quince clothes. Cost of icon dental treatment. Uptown Cheapskate Consignment Shop. Oh, have you been there before? No, I tried to get Peyton to go there this week, but he wanted to go to the mall. Ben Ferenz. Republic Services Dumpster Rental. It's that time again. Oh yeah. Sylvia Borstein. Wheelhouse Delivery. Silver Dollar City Hours. All right, here's my list. What is French chalk? Deep freezer recycling options. Now that actually has nothing to do with my deep freeze. Roy's deep freeze that he has in his garage, which is also an upright, it doesn't work. So, we've got to figure out how to get rid of it. Yes. And I found a place. Whole hog barbecue menu. Yum. Sagittal crest. What year did Murphy Brown have her baby? 1992. Duchess cut. Cushion cut. Marquise cut. Radiant cut. Asher cut. Trillion cut. I had to look them up. They're so pretty. I know. The Exactly Right store, you look that up about every two months. And I was like, what is she doing? What is that? My favorite murder stuff. I was like, of course that's what it is. Isn't it hilarious, though? Every two months. The Exactly Right store. Did you like their hot dog march? I did like their hot dog march. I really want to get some hot dog merch, but it's so random that I just don't know if I would ever like wear a hot dog T-shirt. I understand. I understand anyway Logitech silent mouse I'm sick of my mouse clicking, all the time at Celine Dion illness, and Celine Dion's kids. Damn, you and I we are just always on the same wavelength. That's just one brain. We totally are crazy. All right. Do you have any listener shout outs? I don't have any. None. I have one. OK. And it's real sad. Oh, no. Well, as you know, this week, Heather and Mike of Heather, they had to help their little kitty boo cross the Rainbow Bridge. You're going to make me cry. And I don't want to talk about it too much, because I will cry. Yeah, because she was such a sweetie, even though she was a bitey boo. Pet, purr, purr. But I can relate to that. I related to her so well. She was like the cat version of me. And we're going to miss her. I know. But she was real old. The boo. Anyway, we love you guys. Yeah, I'm really sorry about boo. That's really sad. It was super duper sad. But I was so glad that the kids and I got to see her one last time. Yeah. Yeah, I hadn't thought about that. Give her some loves. Nice. And I kind of knew it was going to be the last time we'd see her. Anyway, sorry. I'm glad you brought that up. She'll live on in our memories. Okay, so if anybody wants to get in touch with us, how should they do it? They should email us at Delete This History podcast at gmail.com. They can contact us through Instagram and threads or connect and interact with all the amazing social media we post out there. At DTH gals or on Facebook at Delete This History. Yeah. Hey Cara. Hey what? I already know what you're going to do after this show. Delete my history four times. No, because you've already done it. So, you don't have to. Oh my gosh, yes I have. It's all gone. I actually can't believe this went as smoothly as it did. It was beautiful. So, it turns out that I could just like throw my rundown together in like 30 minutes. Oh. So, I'll just do that on Friday afternoons and it'll be fine. Yeah. I think you should always cause yourself that much stress. I usually do two or three hours of work on that thing. I do too. It's just- That's why when you said you had to recreate it, I was like- I know. I would have just been like, Cara, we can't do it this week. No. I was not gonna do that. I was like, I, it happened recently enough that it was still just all kind of still here. Yeah. Thank goodness. Oh crap. Because that doesn't happen very often. Yeah. Deleting your history is done, but we have somewhere to go. That's right. We're going on a date tonight. We are. We're going out and seeing the world, people. We're gonna go eat a hot dog. Yeah. We've got hot dogs and brats and popcorn and sodas. We're going to a baseball game together. That's right. And at the end of the baseball game, whether we win or lose, there's going to be fireworks. So, we're going to go hang out. I'm going to go delete my history. All right, you do that. I'll tell these people to stay fresh, because they're cheese bags. They are the biggest. See you next week. Bye. Delete This History is created, written, hosted, produced, and edited by Brea Brown and Cara Burch. Theme music is so good by Orkas. Email us at Delete This History podcast at gmail.com. Find us on Instagram and Threads at DTHgals and Facebook at Delete This History. Copyright 2024, all rights reserved. Sleep deprivation brought to you by giant greyhounds in my bed, and neighbors with fireworks.