But it just will not come out of my mouth! You let me type something up, my smartness will come out there. I've always been a better writer than a talker. Something between my mouth and my brain won't connect. Already got a closing theme credit. Let's hear it. A closing theme credit. Closing theme credit. What is it? Now we're even- We're gonna come to the segment that we... Hahahaha! Oh lord. You wanna try that again? Yep, let's do that again. Okay, hang on. And a whistly booger. Oh god. Okay, go. All right. (theme song) Welcome to episode 39 of Delete This History, a podcast by two besties of a certain age searching for answers where your host, Brea Brown and Cara Burch. Hi. Welcome back. Yeah, it was fun. We did a lot of ghosty tours. We did a couple history things. We did some, a Fort Sumter tour and we did the International African American Museum. We went to that. It was so cool. That's awesome. Yeah. We did the fort and that in one day. And then we went to Poogan's Porch, the restaurant that's supposedly haunted by the dog, Poogan. Yes, I did not see Poogan or feel him under the table. Okay. And I didn't see the old lady who supposedly haunts the place either. Is she the dog owner? No. Okay. She lived there much earlier than the dog ever did. Why is it haunted by a dog? Um, I don't know. He just, um, I don't know why it's haunted by him. He just doesn't want to leave there because he loves the porch. Oh, okay. This his porch. Makes sense. The old lady, I don't know what her deal is, but she shows up in the mirror behind you in the ladies room. Oh, huh-uh. So, I didn't wanna meet her. I wasn't interested in meeting her, so I just didn't. Didn't look in the mirror. I did not go into the bathroom. Oh, you just didn't even go in there. No. Nope, nope, nope. It's like I'm gonna sit my stinky sweaty butt out here in this fancy restaurant. It was so fancy. I wasn't expecting that. A restaurant named after a dog, you would not expect it to be high class. It was pretty high class. But we didn't see any ghosts there. I didn't see any ghosts anywhere. Heather and Mike saw a ghost, at least one ghost, and so did Peyton at the jail. Okay, so Heather and Mike went with you on some of your tours. They went with us on the jail tour. Okay, that's fun. Yeah. Very cool. It was jam packed week. We were go, go, go, go. I did nothing. You did nothing while I was gone. Oh good. Then you kept the universe in balance. I just, well, I felt like I needed to. Yes. Yeah. I watched a lot of TV actually. When's that estate sale? It's this weekend. Nope. It's next weekend. Oh gosh. It's not, we've still got, we've got this weekend left to get some stuff. But we're pretty much done. I mean, there's not a whole lot left that we can shove into this sale. Do you have to be there present at the sale? She says we don't, but I was like, we don't even know this woman. Someone needs to be there. I nominate a certain person. Well, I'm the only one who has time off, so I will be there. Oh, shoot. Sean has blown through his PTO, like, during... while Roy was sick and then after Roy passed away. So, the whole year? No, it resets in July one. Oh, good. Oh, my gosh. Right now, fiscal year. OK. He has zero. Poor guy. He must be exhausted. He is pretty worn out. Do you have some bookmarks? I do. As a matter of fact, so I would recommend bookmarking Renegade Nell, which is a new series on Disney Plus. Have you heard of this? What? No. Renegade Nell. No, oh yeah, yeah. Renegade Nell, uh-huh. It stars Louisa Harlan. It's cute. Yes, she plays Orla on the Derry Girls, which, come on, you didn't have to convince me. Yeah. I love her. And she does, so you've seen it? Yes. Okay, we have watched the whole thing too. We've only watched one or two episodes, I think one episode. Oh, okay. We've busted all the way through that. Oh my gosh. Here's a plot description from IMDB for our besties. A quick witted and courageous young woman framed for murder unexpectedly becomes the most notorious outlaw in 18th century England. It's like a little bit Robin Hood, a little bit Parks of the Caribbean, a little bit Peter Pan. Like it just has that Disney adventure vibe. Yes. But it's not like cutesy tootsy. And she is not a damsel in distress. No. She is like a badass. She's hilarious. Oh my gosh. I love her. And then it also stars... Frank Delane and he was, you maybe haven't gotten to him yet. He is the little kid, because he's not a little kid anymore, who played like the flashback Harry Potter, Tom Riddle. Oh. In the Half-Blood Prince, I think it was. Yes, uh-huh. He has a nice little, you know, his hair's parted and he's wearing his little uniform. Yes. He is in this and he is fantastic. Yeah. He's a great comedy actor. Oh. interesting. So, I really I'd like to look for more things that he is in because I enjoyed him a lot. He made me laugh a lot. Highly recommend it if you guys haven't seen it yet. It's really good. Yeah it is. I have another bookmark. Go for it. Okay it's another tv series because all I did while Brie was on vacation was watch tv. So, bookmark a tv series I think it's on Hulu called Dinosaur. Have you watched this? Uh-uh. Okay, so here's IMDB's plot description for this one. Nina's world is shaken when her sister and best friend, Evie, hastily gets engaged, threatening to upend the dynamics of their close relationship. Nina is a paleontologist, and she has autism. Oh. And they live together. They have a flat set in Scotland. Oh, nice. It is so funny and endearing and precious. Oh. I binged that thing. Sean's been real busy. And so I busted through, I think each episode's like 30 minutes. Yeah. And I think there's maybe only eight episodes. I watched in two days. Nice. Busted through that thing, just because it was so good. Yeah. You should, you should watch it. You would really like it. It looks good or sounds good. But yeah, they live together, they have a flat together, and then all of a sudden her sister comes home and she's like, I'm engaged. She's like, are you kidding? So, it's just kind of her navigating, like leading up to this wedding and how Nina just kind of is handling it with, you know, her autism and then just, that's my best friend. Now what do I do? I don't have other friends. I don't have a boyfriend. It's really cute. Oh. Would you like to continue the theme of shows? Yeah. Especially English shows. OK, so I discovered a new to me show. It's not new. OK. On Brit Box, though. OK. Unfortunately, for you. It's called Here We Go. And it stars Alison Stedman, who was Mrs. Bennett in The Superior Pride and Prejudice. Excellent. and Katherine Parkinson, who was in the IT Crowd. Oh, I love her. Anything she's in, I'm just like, I'm here. Yes. I'm here for you because I love her. Yes, she's awesome. Okay, it's about a zany family that I can totally relate to because the parents, Katherine Parkinson and this other dude, whatever, beardy guy, they got married young. Okay, and so now they're in middle age and they're kind of just like they've got their kids are getting older and whatever and life is never easy and they have bad luck If something can go wrong when they make a plan to do something it goes wrong and it goes hilariously wrong And so the way it starts out they make a plan to do something, it goes wrong. And it goes hilariously wrong. And the way it starts out is like in the pilot episode they're planning a trip to America for a vacation. Like a big trip, right? Like big. And they're like, this is going to be the best year ever. Blah, blah, blah. I just opened a new cafe, like Katherine Parkinson's character, she makes a career change, she opens her own business. Her husband is a former Olympic archer. Oh, wow. And he does like He does like archery lessons and their mom, his mom lives close by, Allison Steadman, and she's gonna get a new hip that year and their oldest daughter's gonna go to university and they've got all these big plans for this year, right? And so to celebrate, they're gonna go to LA for this big family vacation. And they're planning it and they've got Disneyland and they've got rafting and they've got all these activities, you know, set out. And then they show you what the date is. And it was January, 2020, that they're making all these plans. Oh no. So, you know right off the bat, you're like, oh no, their world's about to be rocked. Oh man. And so the way that it's formatted is every episode, they start an episode with what's going on, and then they flash back to like, two weeks earlier or three months earlier or six months earlier or whatever precipitated the event that's going on right then that is a complete shit show. It is so freaking funny. So, it wasn't stressful to relive that? Oh yeah it was. Oh okay. It was very stressful. Cause you're like, oh, you're like, oh no, oh no. Yes. But it's funny because they, like the mom says things like, don't worry, Boris Johnson will get us out of this. Like, you know, things like that, that you're just like, ah. Oh, geez. It's really hilarious. Okay. And then this is not a British show. This is an American show. Okay. It's called The Mapleworth Murders. And there's an actress who was on Saturday Night Live, Paula…Pell. It's executive produced by Lorne Michaels. It is a Roku original. Okay. So, I was like, I didn't know they had Roku originals, but it is. It's very funny. Also, they use all kinds of bad words and sexual innuendo. And so you look at it and you think this kind of, it kind of has the look and the feel of like maybe a Hallmark Hall of Fame, like cozy mystery show, but the episodes are like eight minutes long. Oh. They're shorts. And the end of every episode is to be continued to the next episode and blah, blah. And it is hilarious. And there's all kinds of guest stars from Saturday Night Live. Tim Meadows was on the very first episode. Tina Fey. made a cameo and an episode. Nice. All these SNL cast members that you're like, oh my gosh, oh my gosh, oh my gosh, that person. Aw, that sounds fun. And it's a murder mystery, it's a cozy mystery. Okay. And it's a comedy. I mean, it's ridiculous. It's just over the top ridiculous. Are there a bunch of episodes? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, there's, let's see here. This says that there's only been one season and it was in 2020. Okay. There were 12 episodes. Okay. And what was it called again? It's called Mapleworth Murders. Okay. Huh. Very funny. Excellent. All right now that I stumbled through that let's move on. Um, I do have one of we don'ts Yes, one thing that you guys should not bookmark don't bookmark it because I really needed to catch everybody up. Um, I got through all the Twilight series. Oh my gosh all four books and then the fifth one that I was really, you know working on the Midnight Sun. That's you know, which one that one is. Yeah from Edward’s point of view. Yes. All of the four original books they average around 500 pages Midnight Sun was 832 pages of just Edward talking to himself. Like, you're just hearing what his thoughts in his head. It's just internal monologue the whole time. I am really sorry, Stephanie Myers, but it was the most boring book. Oh no. It was so... now, it did do the job. It did what I was looking for and it filled in some blanks for like, why does... why is there a relationship even happening here? So, that was... I mean, you know, I did take that away from it. Thank goodness. And also, I was really let down at how boring the final scene of Breaking Dawn was from the book. How can the climax of this series be so boring? Where you're just skimming through it like... Yes, I got to the point. It's nothing but conversation. So, I will say, thank goodness, someone... in, you know, that was helping to write the screenplay said, okay, we got to rewrite this whole thing. Yeah. The movie cannot be like this. Yeah. And that ending was actually exciting and had a surprise twist. Well, stuff happened. Yeah. People moved. Yeah. And didn't just stand there and go, (hissing noises). Oh my God. Anyway, I did it. I read them all. I will never read them again. I'm not reading anymore. Ever? Of anything? of that series. There are so many spinoffs. Oh, it's awful. And there's just so much fan fiction based on it. And now Amazon's like, hey, I saw you check this out from the library. How about this? How about this? How about this garbage? No. So, I'm cleansing my palette with another fantasy novel that I'm getting through that. And it's actually much better. Oh, that's shocking. It's shocking. I know, it's very surprising. And then it's better. So, anyway, uh. High praise, by the way. That fantasy book is better than. Oh my gosh. And it's a debut novel by someone else. Yeah. It's like in the first two pages, it's like this is so much better. Oh my gosh, so y'all. It's like a breath of fresh air. Not that I had to tell anybody with a brain to avoid these books, but just don't, don't waste your time like I did. Okay. It was just, I don't know. Maybe I need another MRI to discover why I wanted to read those. I don't know. Maybe, maybe it might not be, what do we call it? Alzheimer's, that's the word. Good God, what is wrong with me? It might not be Alzheimer's, but it may be just insanity. Yeah, I had a little like just like a mini stroke and forgot who I was. And now I'm better. Just a mini stroke, that's good. I have big ones all the time. Cara. Brea. We're not here to talk about every British show ever made, or to pan every Twilight spinoff ever written. No, we're not. We're here to tell you, our besties, our top three most interesting, funniest, most successful searchers of the week in this form. How do we do it, Cara? With The Reading of the Lists. Excellent. All right, my list this week for episode 39 is. Wait, is it gonna be boring like last time? No. Okay. I actually have some shit happening. Okay, my list for this week is Old Mike Prescott, Arkansas. Number two, Astrolabe. Number three, Dave Matthews Band's Chicago River incident. Oh! Okay. Intriguing. Okay. All right. Are you ready for mine? Yes. Number one, The Three-Legged Mare. Number two, Legos lost at sea. Number three, syllabub. That's one of my favorite words. It's a pretty good one. Syllabub. Do you know what that is? I've looked it up before. Do I remember? Hell no. I will inform you when you remind me will I be like, oh yeah duh, maybe but maybe not. All right, so now that we've told everybody our lists, it's time to play a little game we like to call... Search Me! Where we each pose one question to each other and see if we can answer based only on The Reading of the Lists. Cara, today you are playing four. Yes. It's a little underwhelming to look at first. Okay. But you can make this whatever you want, the possibilities. It is this felt envelope. Oh. You can put coupons in there. You can use it as a... I was just getting ready to say coupons, but I don't even clip coupons. But don't you get the five thousand yard CVS coupons? Yeah, you can fold those up and put them in here, right? You can put receipts in there like for work if you have to keep track of those I am super excited about this. It's all it's just a flat envelope, but and it's made of like what is that felt? It is felt it's like yeah, it's like the felt boards that we used to play with at church. Yes, I also like the color. Yeah, and it's just this very classy gray and has a little snap on it and everything. And it's also the size of my wallet, so it will fit perfectly alongside my wallet. Yes. My wallet will have a friend. Yeah. Okay. It's very good purse size. Yes, it is. You could just put anything in there. Let's say, like, you took your earrings off to record. Yes. You could put your earrings in there and then they wouldn't get lost. I could put pictures of you in there. You could. Yeah, I'd be like, here's where Brea went to the beach. Here's where Brea- Fell down, fell down in the surf and couldn't get back up again. Cause that happened. I was goofing off for Quinn. Oh no. I was goofing off for Quinn and Heather was holding Quinn and we were not in deep water. Yeah. You know, it had stormed the night before or that morning, early in the morning. And the, the water wasn't as rough as I thought it was going to be. It was very much like the Gulf. And so we're just standing there and, you know, right before the waves break. So, we're in the shallower part of the water and then, but we kept edging kind of closer and closer and then every once in a while, a wave would be big enough that it would, you know. And so we were goofing off and I was like, “Oh no, oh no,” acting like it was a big deal. And sure enough, one of them smacked me down. And then it was just wave after wave after wave. And you're holding your breath because you can hear them coming. So, then you're holding your breath and your muscles are not getting any oxygen. Oh man, you're stressing me out. So, I could not stand up. Oh my gosh. And I'm thinking, one of those hot lifeguards is gonna have to come in here and get me. This is so embarrassing. My sunglasses fell off. Oh no! My glasses stayed on, thank goodness. But Heather was like, oh no, her glasses. Like, I'm hearing everybody around me and I'm like, if someone could just give me a hand. You're right. That'd be great. So, Caleb comes over there, he finally gets to me and he pulls, he's trying to pull me up with one arm. I'm like, that ain't gonna work. I'm a big girl, I'm a beluga. You’re gonna have to get in front of me and use both of my hands and get me up. It was um I saw my life flash before my eyes. No I didn't. Core memory. I knew something. I knew I knew it all worked out okay but yeah. And then Quinn kept saying I kept hearing her saying, “What is she what is she doing why is she being silly?” I'm actually dying here. So, if you could maybe run out here and help me. I'm dying. So, come closer. Heather was like, “I couldn't, I couldn't, I was holding her and I couldn't get to you.” Good times. There's gotta be at least one incident like that where I make a complete ass of myself. Or it's not a vacation. I was gonna say it wouldn't be a trip. It wouldn't be a normal trip for you. That's right. It's a Brown family vacation. That's what we do. What was I talking about? I was talking about putting pictures of you in my felt. That's right. In my felt envelope. Yeah, put that picture in there. This is where Brea almost died. So, Carrie, your question is. Yes. What infamous event sparked a search that I was too busy sleeping during the day and stressing the fuck out about money and everything else to have it even ping on my radar back when it happened? Well, I'm gonna go with Dave Matthews Band Chicago River incident. Yes. Well, don't feel bad because I don't know what this is either. Okay, so I believe it was on My Favorite Murder. Somebody, one of the two hosts, just said, just made mention of, oh, sounds like Dave Matthews Band about something. And I was like, what are they talking about? So, I looked it up. Okay, I don't want to tell you exactly what they said or what the context was because it'll ruin it for you but I was like, “What are they talking about, and how did I never hear of this happening?” So, in August of 2004 a Dave Matthews band tour bus. They had multiple buses, but one of their buses Dumped about 800 pounds of human waste into the Chicago River while crossing the Kinsey Street Bridge. It had like a metal grate, you know? The bridge was like a metal grate. And the bus driver emptied the black water tank as he was going across the bridge. On purpose? Or by, okay, we don't know. Whoa. A family like mine was riding an open top sightseeing. boat underneath the bridge right when this happened. No! Did someone get hurt? 800 pounds! 120 passengers with luck like my family were on the sightseeing boat. It was called Chicago's Little Lady and it was hosting a 1P.M. Chicago Architecture Foundation tour. Something my family would totally be all about, right? You're just taking, hey, let's take this architecture tour. It'll be great. Roughly two thirds of the 120 passengers were soaked by the waste. According to the Illinois Attorney General, passengers included the elderly, people with disabilities, a pregnant woman, a small child, and an infant. Five passengers went to Northwestern Memorial Hospital for testing. Here's a quote from the filing against the bus driver. Are you ready for this? You might not be hungry anymore after this, “The liquid waste was brownish yellow in color and had a foul offensive odor, the liquid human waste went into the passengers’ eyes mouths hair, and onto clothing and personal belongings, many of which were soaked. Some of the passengers suffered nausea and vomiting.” Some of them? Yeah, right. How, how not all of them, “As a result of exposure to the human waste.” Gives a whole new meaning to poop deck. Doesn't it? You're just waiting to say that. I have it written down so I wouldn't forget. So, Dave Matthews Band at first denied that any of their buses was crossing the bridge at that time. They were like, no, all of our buses were parked. But someone recorded the license plate of the bus, which was traced back to the band. Oh, geez. The driver was fined $10,000 and sentenced to 150 hours of community service. And then Dave Matthews band donated $50,000 to the Chicago Park district, $50,000 to Friends of the Chicago River, and paid the state of Illinois $200,000 in a settlement. Wow. The band also agreed to keep a log, of its buses septic tank emptying. Oh. So, every time they emptied their septic tank they had to write it down, which you probably should anyway. What? I was going to say, isn't that probably part of driving a big bus anyhow? Yeah. Oh my. Um, here's a funny thing. Last August. The Riot Fest Historical Society attached a plaque to the Kinsey Street Bridge commemorating the 19th anniversary of the incident. What? Why? Just to be silly. Oh, okay. Supposedly, none of the victims suffered any lasting health effects from the incident, but how would you know? You would never be able to get that smell out of your like that would be a scent memory that you would never get rid of. Yeah, and I would think that if you ever did smell that like you go into a public bathroom or something. Like you just have like I would…That would be PTSD for me for a long time Yuck, yuck, yuck. My sources were one source Wikipedia. I was lazy when I looked that up, but I just had to know. That is horrendous. Isn't that terrible? Ugh. Envelope is mine. Take it. Put poop in it. I will put some poop in it. Okay. All right. So, today you are playing for yet another item from the Beverly Burch Library. Man, I'm excited. It's good. Are you ready? Yeah, I'm ready. Al Franken, lies, lies and the lying liars who tell them. Do you remember when this came out? Everybody was like, (gasping). We listened to it on audio book on the way to Arkansas one time. Well, now you can enjoy it all over again with your eyeballs. I'm gonna put it in my little library. That's where all the Beverly Burch books are going, by the way. Oh, that's perfect. They're going in my little library. Look, this is how far she got, right there. Oh no, did she maybe not like it? Or maybe she just stuck that in there, I don't know. Oh no, I doubt it. I'd say this is right up her alley. Was she a liberal? Oh yeah. Liberal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fo show. Good woman. I'm, yeah. I mean, that's interesting. Right. Don't wanna make any statements. Okay, I'm ready. All right, so. I really wanna win this for my little library patrons. After seeing a reel on Instagram that just clicked with me. Okay. I wanted to learn more about which of my search topics. The three-legged mare? Just clicked with me. Damn it. Legos lost at sea. Oh my gosh. Is this a new Lego series? No it's not. So, what's kind of interesting about my topic here is it kind of goes. Alongside your topic about poop, things dumped in the water. Oh my. February 1997. Picture it. Okay. I'm there. A huge storm near the coast of Cornwall pushed a bunch of containers off of a cargo ship and one of them was filled with nearly 5 million Lego pieces. Oh my gosh. I've heard about this. Yes. When the Tokio express T-O-K-I-O. Set sail from Rotterdam. Oh, fast flashback. Rotterdam is one of the chunnel stations. Oh, yes. Yeah, you guys remember? Were you paying attention? Yes. This cargo ship encountered huge waves about 20 miles off of Land's End, which is like the furthest southwest part of the UK. It's like all the way down there. It's not just a place where you get stylish outdoor clothes. It is not. It turns out that is actually the name of a town. Oh. So, the waves caused 62 shipping containers to fall into the ocean and one of them held the Legos. They were destined for North America. Okay. Ironically, many of the 4,756,940 Lego pieces were seafaring adventure sets. That's hilarious. Can you believe it? And so Legos started washing up on the Cornish beaches. Yes. Beachcombers began finding plastic octopi, spear guns, scuba tanks, cutlasses, flippers, and dragons. Among the beachcombers was Tracy Williams, and here's a quote from Tracy. Okay. “My first and probably, oh, my first find,” excuse me. “Was probably a piece of plastic Lego seagrass.” I didn't know there had been a spill of Legos and I remember thinking how bizarre it was to find plastic seaweed on the beach. I took it home to show my family. Shortly afterwards, we began finding other pieces too. That was when we learned that there had been a cargo spill. The dragons and octopi were significant. There were only 33,427 black dragons and 4200 octopi. Oh, that's about the number of legos on my kids floors when they were littler. The green dragons were a real find because there were only 514 of those. Dragons and octopi still occasionally turn up and there's always much excitement when one of them does. These days the best time to search for legos is after high spring tides and strong onshore winds. We think many of the Legos are still trapped in sand dunes in between rocks. So, in stormy weather, when everything's all churned up, uh, the Legos that are have been buried for decades, they dislodge. And they start washing up on the shore. So, much plastic. Oh yes. In the oceans. How many, how many fish and like marine animals have eaten them? Oh my gosh. So, over the years ocean currents have swept these Legos vast distances. Pieces have been found on the Channel Islands, France, Belgium, and the Netherlands. So, they went all the way back to the Netherlands. Oh my gosh, that's hilarious. They were just going home. They were just going, I'm just going to go home. They're homing, Lego. What do I need to do? Just go home. Some oceanographers believe that some of the pieces could have drifted all the way around the world and have come back. Oh my gosh. OK, my sources were the Marine Conservation Society, Instagram, and Tracy Williams who actually wrote a book called Adrift, the curious tale of the Legos lost at sea. Now was anybody fined or punished for that? I did not do research on that but I don't know. I mean I would assume that Tokio Express, I mean you lost 62 containers, were they not secured? Was it just a you know freak storm that you know I don't know. who has to pay for that accident. And I don't know what was in the other containers. Right? And the other thing I found interesting is they said that the container shouldn't have opened. They're not sure how the Lego container got opened. But... All the little Lego people, they used... They were like, let's get out of here! Collectively got together and... We're gonna drown. We're like, Brea, can't... Use both hands. Can't stand up. That book, The Lies and Lying Liars, You Tell Them, is all yours. Oh, some of my favorite people on the cover of that book. We've got Ann Coulter, G-Dub, Billo Splotchy, which is what they, he calls Billo Riley in this book. He calls him Billo Splotchy. And Dick Cheney. Yes. And look how young Al Franken looks on the cover of this. I know. Look how young they all look. Al Franken, I mean, his stint in politics really aged him. All right, now that we both won our prizes. Yay. It's time for us to share some other kinds of history and experiences and this really awkward segue for the segment that we like to call Shared History, where we tell you, our DTH besties. What we searched this week, why we searched it, and what we learned. Yes. We each have two more things to talk about. Yes, we do. Okay. My first search that I'm going to talk about is old Mike Prescott, Arkansas. Okay. Because we talk about depressing and morbid stuff first. Always. That's what I do anyway. Someone who wrote into My Favorite Murder on one of their episodes about hometown stories. It doesn't have to be a hometown murder. They've kind of evolved into hometown everything or even like funny stories about your gram- grandparents, or things that you found hidden in walls. There's just all these stories just run the gamut. It's basically just listener emails Okay of interesting slash funny stories and they're great. Okay. Someone wrote in about a hometown story of theirs in Prescott, Arkansas, about Old Mike. Okay. Old Mike is the name given to a traveling salesman who died in 1911 in Prescott in Nevada County. I'm sure it's pronounced Nevada, just like we do here in Missouri. The people of the town only knew him by his first name, but he visited the area about once a month to sell pens, paper, and thread, interesting assortment, to homes and businesses near the railroad tracks at the center of town. During one trip, Mike attended an outdoor revival in the city park, and then his body was found underneath a tree in the park the next day. Oh. And they think he died of a heart attack or a stroke. then the body was taken to the Cornish funeral home where it was embalmed. This is where it gets interesting. A search of Mike's belongings did not turn up any identification. What little they knew was that he was about 40 to 45 years old. He spoke English with kind of like an Italian accent, but not, not super heavy, just like a slight Italian accent. And he had suffered some type of injury to his right arm and left leg, at some time in his life, possibly the effects of a stroke. And he had elaborate dental work done. That's quite distinguishing. So, they were hoping that someone would come forward to identify and or claim the body. So, they displayed his body at the funeral home for 64 years. Huh? And you should see the pictures. They painted eyes on his eyelids. Why? Which was weird. Yeah, they kept him on display for 64 years. Okay. I don't. Okay. After a while, the body turned into something of a tourist attraction. Okay. Obviously. What else does Prescott have to offer? Old Mike. That's it. And in 1975, the Arkansas Attorney General's office asked the Cornish funeral home to bury him. Yeah, they were like, this has been enough. Let's, right, let's put a stop to this. So, they did. And on May 12, 1975, old Mike was put to rest and his headstone just says old Mike and then it says question mark question mark to 1911. Oh, okay, because they don't know when he was born. Yes. That's it How can this guy not have had anybody? Come looking for him. I don't know. That's, that shouldn't be my first question My first question should be why 64 years on display? Yeah, why did they have to have somebody tell them enough? That's well, listen, you run a funeral home. You're a different cat. That's true. But, but you also got to be in tuned. I mean, what if I'm going to your funeral home to bury a loved one? I don't want to see Old Mike standing up against the wall there. You know, after a while, I think it's kind of just like, this is just. It's like a chair in the room. Right. This is just old Mike. He's just always been here. You may be right. And people come to see him. And it generates something of interest. I'm speaking of funeral home directors being a little bit different. This week's episode of Criminal is called One Troy. And it's about a funeral home in New York. and the family who owns it. It's a black owned business and they're one of the very few black owned funeral homes in New York City. That's interesting. And it's been passed down from generation to generation. Okay. And it was a really interesting story. Okay. So, I urge everybody to, you know, look it up. That was an impromptu bookmark. Yeah, Criminal with Phoebe Judge. That would be the June 14th episode. Okay. Very good. Okay. Very interesting. Nice. Yeah. And the whole time I was thinking about Six Feet Under, which is a show I love. Yes. I, I've never seen that, but I do want to see it. It's so good. Yeah. Um, my sources were Wikipedia and Encyclopedia of Arkansas. Oh, I know. There's a thing. Check that out. All right. So, I'm following your normal routine of awful things first. Yes. So, get it out of the way. Three-legged mare. Why is it awful? Because there were lots of things in Renegade Nell that I was like, what the crap? And this was one thing that was in Renegade Nell. One of the characters in there in the very beginning said something like, I'm not about to ride on the three-legged mare, so forget it. Well, picture it. The city of York, 1300s. The Tyburn was one of four execution sites. Uh-huh. The other three were run by church institutions, which is a little bit creepy. And each of these four execution sites had their own system of justice. So, they weren't all the same. The Tyburn site was used by the Crown's justice, and it was administered at York Castle. The gallows consisted of a wooden triangle. standing on three wooden pillars and it was known as the Three-legged Mare. Oh no. This was a site for executions for more than 400 years. Execution Day was a big rowdy event. Criminals were a spectacle as they were driven from the prison to their deaths sitting with their coffins. Until 1745 their bodies were quartered after hanging. Special newspapers were detailing the crimes and the punishment of the condemned. I'm imagining Brea in the 1300s and she's like, “Get my true crime on, where is that special newspaper?” They have had true crime forever. Forever. That's right. This was true crime in the days of yore. That's right. Now I have seen pictures of this device, but I did not know it was called the three-legged mare. Three-legged mare. Oh my gosh. Women were also amongst the criminals put to death and their crimes ranged from murder, to, “stealing wearing apparel of no great value.” That's in quotes. Stealing wearing apparel, not just apparel, wearing apparel. Wearing apparel. Okay. Of no great value. No great value. According to men. But then why would they be executed for that? Well, that's what they're saying. Why did you even steal that? It's of no great value. It's of no great. It's not worth stealing. Get over on the three legged mare. But maybe they needed it. I'm sure that they did. I have no doubt they probably. And they chose the cheapest thing so that they wouldn't be affecting the shopkeeper as much. I agree with you. A man came up with that stupid law. Yeah, he did. The last hanging at the Tyburn took place in 1801, after which executions took place at York Castle itself. This was in order that the, quote, entrance to the town should no longer be annoyed by dragging criminals through the streets. Oh, okay. We wouldn't want it inconveniencing people. In spite of that sentiment, hangings took place in public until an act of parliament in 1868. Until the last York execution in 1896, murderers were executed from a specially constructed platform known as The Drop. Oh yes. And that was located at the end of the female prison. Now, get this, the doors leading into the Drop can still be seen today at the end of that building. Oh cool. Yeah. There's some ghosty ghosts around there. Heck, yeah. Mm-hmm. My sources were Renegade Nell TV series and historyofyork.org.uk. Oh. That was kind of an interesting one. It is. And you know what? My second search. Yeah? Is historical as well. We are vibing today. Oh my gosh. Okay, my second and final topic is astrolabe. Yes. Now this sounds like something that you would use for some sexy fun times. I was thinking that maybe happened to me at the gynecologist this week. They did not use an astrolabe on you. I am almost positive. Okay. Almost positive. Hit me. Okay. I was listening to the historical BBC podcast. It's a comedy podcast that I love. You're Dead to Me. It is hilarious. They pair a comedian up with a historian. The historian tells all the facts, the comedian riffs on the facts. And then the comedian has to take a quiz at the end to see how much they remembered. That's awesome. It is a very entertaining show and I love it. They were discussing medieval science. This was their September 24th, 2021 episode. Okay. They were talking about a device called an astrolabe and their verbal descriptions of this thing were not making any sense to me. Like I just could not picture. what they were talking about. So, what did I do? You looked it up. Oh, you put it in. First of all, an astrolabe is an ancient astronomical instrument that serves as a star chart and a device that can measure heavenly bodies. Grrawl. Yeah. It basically looks like a compass. Okay. It's a metal disc with a pattern of wires, cutouts and perforations that allow a user to perform some pretty complicated calculations and measurements. It's basically a medieval smartphone. I mean, there was something that I read that said that they had discovered 1,000 uses for the astrolabe. What? So, you could you could figure out what time it was based on the angle of the sun using the astrolabe. And you could figure out um longitude and latitude. You could figure out angles so that you could measure like great heights. You could figure out how high a cliff was Based on where you're standing by looking at this thing and then I don't know. Wow. I know. Um, so it was basically like a gps a ruler tape measure. Oh, what are those like digital tape measure things? Because it's not a tape measure. Oh, I know what you're talking about. It's like got a laser and you just point it somewhere and it tells you how, yes, yes. It was kind of like that except you had to actually do some math and some calculations and shit. Forget it. I know exactly. And you could use it as a calendar. What? Because you could figure out based on the position of the Sun at a certain time of day, what time of the All the stuff. There was nothing dark about the so-called Dark Ages. And the host of the show, who's also a big history nerd, and the historian, they were very offended by the term dark ages. You're like we don't use that term around here because it was not the medieval times are not dark ages. Okay. There was a lot going on. There were a lot of there was It's just that information couldn't travel as far back then it doesn't mean that things weren't being discovered and adapted and used it just meant that over here they were doing things and then over here they were doing things and they weren't talking to each other about what they were doing. I guess I didn't ever stop to think about why they were called the Dark Ages. Kind of in the back of my head, I was thinking maybe it was because of plagues and like just a general, oh this is horrible. That's part of it. But a lot of it is that it was called that because there was a misconception that it was a time of intellectual darkness. Oh! Oh my gosh, I had no idea. I should study more. But that was a fallacy. Okay. So, do they have a different name for it that they use? They just said medieval times. Oh, okay, I'm with you. They don't like the nickname Dark Ages. I see. People were effing smart back then. Because you had to be smart to use an astrolabe. Yeah, a thousand different ways. I mean. I can't even use an abacus. Oh, come on. Yes, you could. Well, I could use an abacus for like easy things like addition and subtraction. But like for more complicated calculations like they used to do. Hell no. Yeah. No, I couldn't do it. So,, you know, my hats off to them. Historians think the earliest astrolabe was invented by Apollonius of Perga. Yes. not Apollonius of anywhere else. He was of Perga. I'm glad you clarified. Between 2020 and 150 BC, dang, Muslim astronomers further developed the analog measuring tool in the eighth century, and they used it to figure out what time they could do their prayers. Oh, that was part of it. That wasn't all religious, but that's part of it. I'll put a picture or two on the social needs for everybody to admire. Yeah. Some of these different models of astrolabe. Very cool. I thought it was cool. Anyway, my sources were. You're never going to guess. Let me guess. Wikipedia. And you're dead to me. My heart skipped for a second. Y'all are fuckers. What? You're dead to me. And Britannica.com. Ah, yes. The old Britannica. My last search is syllabub. I heard this word again because we were watching Renegade Nell. And someone said, I didn't want a syllabub. I was like, what the? It turns out a syllabub is a sweet dish made by curdling sweet cream or milk with an acid such as a wine or cider. It was a popular British confection from the 16th to the 19th centuries. Early recipes for syllabub are for a drink of cider with milk. By the 17th century, it evolved into a type of dessert made with sweet white wine. I'm listening. More wine could be added to make it into a punch. Um, but it could also be made to have a thicker consistency that could be eaten with a spoon. Jesus Christ, Brea. Right now. This was killing me. This was, it was always mixed with milk. Uh, yes. Or cream. because you're curdling sweet cream or milk. Okay. You can either eat it with a spoon. It could be used as a topping for trifle or as a dip for sponge cake fingers. Get your old lady fingers out and dip them in the syllabub. This is not what I thought it was going to be. The holiday punch, which was a sweet and frothy drink, was often considered a ladies drink. No men. Oh, OK. No men partaking in the syllabub. It's too sweet and frou-frou. It's frou-frou. And it was often put in a fancy glass or a cup that was elaborate and had like curling handles. Lots of examples I saw too is they used clear glass. so that you could appreciate the multiple layers of liquid and different types of stuff in there. Like my mom, she went through a phase in the 90s, maybe late 80s, early 90s, where she made those Jello dessert things that had the different layers, and she would put them in fancy little dessert cups like sundae dishes that you could see. So, you could see all the different layers. So, 90s. It's kind of like that. Yes, it was. You're right. Now, because you and I both like etymology, I can tell you there is no clear etymology. Damn it. But there were several variations of spelling syllabub. The word has been used in England since at least 1537, when Nicholas Udall used it in his published story called Thyrocytes. Here's a quote. “You and I must walk to him and eat a syllabub.” The word is also found in Samuel Pep's diary on July 12th, 1663. Here's a quote. “Then to Commissioner Petz, where we had a good syllabub.” It sounds like men are eating a syllabub. They're eating it. Plenty. They are. And again, in Thomas Hughes' Tom Brown at Oxford, which was published in 1861. “We retire to tea or syllabub beneath the shade of some great oak.” Right. I mean, only men were allowed to write, so. And only men were allowed to go to Oxford. True. At that time. Now, Hannah Glass in the 18th century published a recipe for whipped syllabi? Syllabubbs? Syllabubbs. in the art of cookery made plain and easy. Okay. Right up my alley. The recipe's ingredients were a quart of thick cream, a half a pint of wine, the juice of two Seville oranges or lemons, the grate of the peel of two lemons, half a pound of double refined sugar. Half a pound? Oh my gosh I'm already out. Oh whip together pour into glasses the curdled cream then separated and floated to the top. Okay, now, the equivalent traditional dessert in Scotland is called cranachan. Ahk! Sorry. Sorry Scottish people. It was originally a celebration of harvest made following the raspberry harvest in August. The dessert of cream and fresh seasonal raspberries is bolstered by Scottish oats and whiskey. It has been the, quote, uncontested king of Scottish desserts. Oh. Cranachan owes its origins to Crowdy, a popular breakfast in which Crowdy cheese is combined with lightly toasted oatmeal cream and local honey. That sounds delicious if you ask me. Raspberries might be added when in season. Now cranachan is served year round these days and typically at special occasions. A traditional way to serve cranachan is to bring dishes of each ingredient to the table so each person can assemble their own dessert. and choose how many of the items they want to throw in. Like a cranachan bar. Yeah, so you have a herkle dirkle. Wake up. Yep. Get out of bed. Have some cranachan or a Crowdy. Crowdy for breakfast. Is Crowdy cheese kind of like cream cheese maybe? I don't know. Because that would be okay. But I'm thinking like a hard sharp cheese, not so great in combination with all that other stuff. You have to maybe research that more. Crowdy. Did you ever, when you were a kid, mix your orange juice and your milk? What? Because we were grossasses. Why? And we did. Well, first of all, I did not drink milk when I was a kid because I hate milk. Correct. That's true. And orange juice was a fancy freaking thing that we rarely had at our house. Really? Oh yes. If we ever had orange juice, it was the cylindrical frozen, you know, concentrate. But we didn't have it very often. My mom bought the frozen cans and mixed it up every week. Oh my. In a pitcher. Okay. And that was our orange juice for the week. And we would have cereal for breakfast and then a glass of orange juice. And when my cereal was gone, I would pour my orange juice into my leftover cereal milk and stir it up and think, this is going to taste amazing and I would drink it and it did not taste amazing because the acid from the orange juice curdles the milk. Oh, so you were thinking like creamsicle? Yes. Okay. But how many times did I have to do this? Many times. I remember doing this many, many times and thinking that tastes disgusting, yet I'm going to keep doing it. What a waste of orange juice. You were an unusual kid. I was weird, but my brother Andrew did it too, so it wasn't just me. Okay, okay. Maybe it was monkey see, monkey do. No, I've never done that. I have to say. It was gross. Okay. So, that's kind of what that sounds like. So, I will not try that. Yeah. I think you're right. It's kind of along those lines. You got to have an acid to curdle the milk and it's not good. Then you say, bring me a special glass. And then you say, oh, this really sucks. I'll try it again next Saturday morning, and see if it sucks less. Oh no, it won't. Great, what were your sources? Well, they were Renegade Nell again, and Wikipedia. I was also a bit lazy this week. Oh, you know, we don't get paid to do this. It's true. A single cent. Not one penny. And I usually do this Thursday night after I have, I mean, I write my rundown Thursday night after I've worked all day. And yeah, sometimes. We're just do yeah, we're tired. You just do what you do. Yeah. All right. Here we go enough of those excuses Mm-hmm. What about this one? Here's a quick listing of our other searches from the past however many weeks because we've been MIA been a hot minute that we didn't have time to discuss in this episode or we're just too damn boring. Yah boring! Here we go. I have 27 Um, I probably I'm probably right there with you. I'm going to strap in. Get strapped. Gettin’ comfy. Okay. Back books meaning in UK, pediatric GI Springfield, Missouri, spiders of North Carolina. Exterminator near me. Most walkable US cities. Smokey Yolk. Hotels in Nashville. We didn't go to Smokey Yolk. Oh man, that's a shame. I know, we didn't. We did go to lots of other places though. Hotels in Nashville. Parking for International African American Museum. Fort Sumter. El Polo Guapo. Poogan’s Porch. McCloud Plantation, which we visited again. Nice. Poe's Tavern. How long to cook hard-boiled eggs? Because I have a little handy-dandy device that cooks my hard-boiled eggs and so I don't know anymore. Squeegees at Buc-ee’s. Pro tip. They don't have squeegees at the gas pumps at Buc-ee's. Oh. But at the charging stations they have squeegees and then there was one that was kind of off by itself like near a tire inflation station. and it's a super long handled squeegee inside of like a big 50 gallon barrel. Yeah. I had to ask cause when you're driving through the South in the summer, it is buggy. Yes. I can only imagine it's buggy. You get to Buc-ee’s, and you need to clear off your buggy windshield at Buc-ee's. Okay. Hilton garden in downtown Birmingham, Alabama, how to reset pin on debit card. Not easily. You can't do it. Uh-uh. Gotta go to the Eff’in Bank. Yeah, you do. Jensen and Holes, The Murder Squad, Josie Long, Trinity Style Row House, Philadelphia, Men's Haircuts, Peyton got a haircut. Oh. It's very cute. Grandma McFlurry. McDonald's has a Grandma McFlurry. It has about a hundred and something grams of sugar, so. Battle of Seven Pines. Springfield Lunker's arena football schedule. Oh, yes. We've got to go to a game. I agree. It's going to be so fun. Oh, is that it? That's it. OK. All right, here we go. Three body problem. Chevalier. I watched that movie. Have you seen it? It's good. Who's in it? People. OK. It's the story about, oh, his name just went out of my head. Joseph Boulogne. Oh, Boulogne. Oh my. He's a he's an African American French violinist and he was a contemporary of Mozart. Oh my goodness. It is such a good movie. I'm gonna write it down. Check it out. Now. I watched it real fast I've been wanting to watch it for a really long time and then Hulu said this is expiring. Oh shit. So, it's on Hulu. Check it out. Okay. I will this weekend. Okay, Chevalier. The Mandalorian series. The Mandalorian and Grogu movie. 300 the movie. Hitman the movie, KC Current schedule. We should go to one of those. The football team, got it. Yes, brown gravy recipe. It looks good. Oh my God, I love brown gravy. How to clean a baking sheet after all your tricks have failed. That's a great search. Full question. That, not really. That is a great search. You know what I ended up doing? Throwing it away. And get a new one. Yeah, cause they're like how much. Well and that was the cheapest one in our cabinet and I was like we don't need this thing. Why am I doing this? Throw it out. Yeah. Okay. Wolof language. Smart mirror. Oh. Had to look it up. It's so cool. Sensitive Digestion Dog Food. I'm that owner now. Shadow Box Ideas. Jacobite. Avanzari New Location. 80sTees.com. I might have ordered some 80s Tees. Maybe I will wear one day. Evergloss. The Plant Room. Please sponsor us. That is the coolest store. If you like plants. Oh. What does a baby bee look like? Full question. Are they cute? Not really. No. They're just small. Diurnal definition. Crispucular definition. Oh, yes. Sean and I, Sean was trying to think of what, he was trying to say crispucular, but all he could think of was diurnal, but we got it worked out. Okay, good. Don't worry. Wire Road Brewing Company, map of the United States. Who sings Sweet Child of Mine? Full question. We jammed out to some Guns N' Roses on our road trip. That song, I would light the guitar hero on fire. Would you? With that song, I could do it 100% perfectly by the time we sold our guitar hero. you know, controller or whatever you want to call it. I jammed out on that. I was really good on it. Pacific Northwest Road Trips, we're going. Godzilla movie with aircraft carrier. Honda auto service, Reddit Mystic Pizza, the musical is real? Galloway station menu and private room rental. Hula Hands North menu. Rebar, kitchen, and tap room. We need to go there. Okay. When did the GameCube come out? Full question. 2001, if anyone wants to know. Springfield Green County Library Summer Reading Challenge. I've started June one. Do people collect decorative bells? You got lots of full questions this week. I do. Blaine Holmes Realty, the Urban Cup, populist definition. What does a cottonwood look like? On our flight of the Ozarks roll down windows with Honda Accord fob, how to watch the Great British Sewing Bee. Oh, no, I can't watch it I can't find any platforms to watch it on. Oh, is it on Britbox or something? I don't know. See if you like British shows, you're just gonna have to get I know it. I just can't I can't Jeremy McGuire current photo. He is still cute and that was that was the baby on Modern Family. Remember when Gloria got pregnant? Oh, my gosh. Joe. They named him Joe Joseph Fulgencio. He's 12 now and he has his own Instagram account. He's really cute. Of course. Acclaimed fantasy novels, inside out movie cast. Cuidado meaning, Gettysburg movie Appeal to Heaven flag. And last but not least, Sony Pictures purchases Alamo Drafthouse Cinemas. Oh. They bought all of the Alamo Drafthouse Cinemas. And supposedly they're going to keep them open. And supposedly there's going to be these fun new changes coming their way. I like it how it is. I know. I hope they don't change it. And this is, this is a sign of how old I am. I'm like, I like it how it is. Well, it's I mean, it's doing fine. It's doing fine. Don't move my cheese. Yes. Anyway, that's the end of my long list. Damn, your list was long. I know. OK, I don't have any shout outs this week. I have three. Do you? Good. Yeah. Go. Alex Jay is a little behind on episodes and we were talking about oatmeal raisin cookies a ways back. Oh, yeah, yeah. She is not a fan. No. Of the cookies. Right. Not us. She's a big fan of us. She's not a fan of the cookies. I know. She writes, quote. “I detest oatmeal raisin cookies they trick you into thinking it's a chocolate chip cookie when it isn't.” All right. She was mad. Yeah. So, she offered up a recipe that we should try and it's called big fat peanut butter oatmeal chocolate chip cookies. Okay. Good grief. Big fat peanut butter oatmeal chocolate chip cookies. It does look like a really good recipe. I'm gonna try them. I'm gonna try and make them and I'll bring them and we can try them together. I'll take a bite. If you want. I'll take a bite. I'll bring one cookie. We'll split it. I hate being that person. No, it's okay. It's okay. Can I just eat a half? You can just eat a bite. Can I just have a little like... I won't even punch you in the face. I'll be that person who takes half a donut at work when you bring in donuts and they leave the other half in there. It's like, I don't want your other half of your mangled touch donut. Weirdo. And we talked about sensory deprivation tanks a few weeks ago. And your sister Heather messaged us and said she's done a float. Yes. And said, we have to do a float. Yes. And Brea bought me two, two floating sessions. No, I bought you a floating session and a massage session. It was? Yeah. Oh, I just saw floating. I saw the floating session and then I saw two sixties. So, no, I got you a 60 minute float and a 60 minute massage for your buff day. I am so. Gonna do those back to back. Of course. Sean will have to pick me up. There's no way I could drive home after that. You'll just be, you'll just be. Like a limp noodle. Ooh, I could take a gummy before I go in there too. Oh my gosh. Yeah. That might be dangerous. It sounds amazing. Anyway, thank you for those. I'm very excited. So, I'll have lots to tell everybody about my floating session. And then shout out to DTH Bestie Hopper and her significant other, Clark. They made me a birthday video, and then she made me some of the best cupcakes I have ever had in my life. I posted a picture on our social media. God, they're good. Homemade. But he plays a rockin' guitar, and so he sang, and she videoed, happy birthday. It's so cute, I'll show you. Did he sing Sweet Child of Mine? No, he sang Happy Birthday. Oh. But I thought she just sent me an Instagram reel. Yeah. And then he said my name and I was like, what's happening? Like I was so confused. Yeah. I couldn't understand what was going on. And then at the very end of the video, she pops in from the side and she's like, happy birthday. Cute. Oh my gosh. Adorable. It was so nice. So, thank you for that. Those are all the shout outs I have. Excellent. Yeah. Okay, that's about it then. We need you. 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