I have to really stop and think about the word.
philosophical.
Oh, that's a hard one.
If I don't think about it, I say syphilophical.
Yeah.
Do you have a problem with the word syphilitic? 
I don't use that word often, so I don't think so.
Oh shit.
Alright.
With you the sun is shining 24-7.
Cause when we're together it feels like we're in heaven.
If it will get dark it'll be my million stars.
I know I can't leave you.
Welcome to episode 33 of Delete This History, a podcast by two besties of a certain age searching for answers.
We're your host, Brea Brown.
And I'm Cara Burch.
You are.
Hi.
Hi.
I like your sweater.
Oh, thanks.
That's a nice color.
It looks good on you actually.
It matches my hair.
It does match your hair.
Good job.
I'm coordinated, thanks.
What you been up to this week? 
Really busy at work.
Really, really busy at work.
Yep.
Caleb says that's one of the funniest things that he laughs at every week is that we both always say, really busy.
We always talk about how busy we are.
And he goes, “Are you guys just always busy?” 
And I said, “Yeah, kind of.”
And he said, “Because every week you just say, so busy.”
Yeah, and I'm exhausted.
I am worn out.
I need-
I think I decided on the drive over here, I was thinking about how.
Achy my back is and I've got like a crick in my neck.
I don't know why I just woke up that way cuz’ I'm 45 Mm-hmm.
I think a Two hour massage.
Oh.
And then some time in space 
In space? 
Yeah.
Zero gravity in other words.
Just I think that would fix a lot of things. 
What if you could do maybe like a float tank? 
No, I'm not comfortable in water so I'd get tense.
You're not a big water person.
No, I mean, I enjoy the water, but being in the water, I wouldn't relax.
In space, I think I can relax like a month in space.
I hear it's really not that relaxing.
I'd like to be in zero gravity.
I would like to prove that to myself.
Kind of like, I'd like to prove to myself I could handle a billion dollars.
Right.
I would be fine.
No.
(random guy coughing)
That guy is gonna do that.
I'm gonna go give him a cough drop.
I don't have one.
Can you throw a cough drop at him like you did your coworker? 
(laughing)
I'd love to.
I may get out dumb baby tonight too because my feet really hurt.
Dumb baby.
I haven't used that in a long time.
We should probably explain to people what dumb baby is.
Oh, yeah, we probably should.
Oh, this is gonna be a throwback 
Okay, it's actually dumb, baby 2.0.
Cuz Peyton is the original dumb baby 
Peyton is the original dumb baby.
So, when Peyton was a baby (a little toddler), yeah a bunch of people were over at our house and I don't know for what maybe we were watching football or something. 
Game night or something.
Oh, maybe it was game night.
And we hear from the man cave.
Jacki and Peyton were in the man cave.
And we hear Jacki say to Peyton, “Rub my feet, dumb baby!”
And the rest is history.
Not expecting to be heard.
And so then, Cara, many years later, maybe 10 years later.
Probably so.
She gave me a foot massager for Christmas.
And I was so excited because I had plantar fasciitis.
Yes.
That was one of the many times that I had plantar fasciitis.
Don't have it right now.
Knock on wood.
And anyway, and so we named it dumb baby 2.0 
And then she got one for herself.
I already had one.
Oh, you already had one.
That's why I knew you would enjoy it.
It's got heat and it has, um, you can choose the strength of the massage that you get.
It can be.
very painful.
It can.
So, the instructions on donebaby2.0 
Actually say, cuz’ it lasts what do you think it's 15 minutes cycle? I think it's less than that.
Oh okay.
Maybe 10.
It says that you're only supposed to use it like once and then give yourself a break and if you use it again you know then that's it you really shouldn't use it anymore.
Right.
But I usually use it like three or four times right in a row because it'll automatically turn itself off when the cycle's done.
But I'll just turn it right back on and go for it again.
And then all of a sudden you're like, ah, ah.
And you know when you've done it too many times and you're starting to bruise your bones.
Yeah, yeah.
I haven't used Dumb Baby in so long.
Me neither.
I think that's why I'm gonna crack it out tonight.
That would be really good.
Friday night, get a little drinky poo.
Oh yeah.
and a little dumb baby going on.
Ah.
That’ll be good…
Oh man, poor dumb baby.
Uh...
Jacki was always good for that kind of stuff.
For the overheard things.
She was always saying things that she didn't mean other people to hear or didn't mean for other people to see.
And just...
you'd lose it.
I have a show recommendation for some peeps.
It's called ‘By the Book’.
And I watch it on ‘BritBox’.
I know maybe you can get it somewhere else.
Okay now people not in the US they could probably get it just on ITV or BBC Or whatever and it was a one episode show.
I love when they say Season one episode one and then it's like that's the only episode I don't know if they're gonna release it then week to week.
Mmm.
Maybe they will Cuz sometimes they do that.
Anyway, it's called by the book and it's a travelogue show with Mel Gidrick Oh, and Martin Clunes.
Oh, shut up, 
Cara.
I thought I was going to pee my pants.
I bet.
I thought I was going to pee the couch.
I was laughing so hard at these two.
First of all, they've been friends for decades.
Oh, I didn't know that.
For forever.
But they haven't seen each other in 25 years.
What? How? I don't know.
They're just too busy.
Oh my.
Busy and important.
Like us.
Yeah.
We make time for each other though.
Yeah, yeah.
And so they got together and they were retracing the steps of literary giants in the UK.
Oh my gosh.
And they started in Dorset.
Eww.
Where my sister lives.
Nice.
And they were visiting places, among other authors, that were frequented by Thomas Hardy.
And...
you know, written about by Thomas Hardy.
And we talked about all that when we talked about Dorset, when I Google spied on my sister.
And these two together, I mean, I don't want to ruin any of the jokes, so I don't want to go, and they're not going to be as funny if I relay them, but they were hilarious.
It was like they were a comedy duo that had been together forever.
Their timing was impeccable.
And they were both spazzes.
I wanna watch that!
It was so good 
What's the title again? 
It's called that it's called,
(mocking the random coughing dude)
Seriously. 
It's called ‘By the Book’ B-Y… 
Okay 
The Book 
Okay 
Very, very funny nice 
Excellent show I was so disappointed when I went I was like, oh my gosh, and I went to watch the next episode and there was no next episode It's like are you effing kidding me? I need more of this in my life and Martin Clunes lives in Dorset.
I Know Colleen he dropped that bomb and he'd never been to any of these places.
Oh my goodness.
So, it sounds like he's a little bit of a recluse maybe now nowadays like he works and then he just doesn't do anything else.
Like doesn't leave his house.
That sounds like me.
It sounds like Doc Martin.
Yeah, it kind of does actually.
Oh, very, very good.
I think this guy's leaving.
Oh, thank God.
We've got to go get a COVID test.
I mean, I will say the allergies are very bad right now.
They are.
They're terrible.
Poor guy.
What else? What else have you got? That's it.
That's all I got.
Sean and I went to.
Ty and Timber on Saturday night.
Oh, Ty and Timber.
And I had a very delicious blackberry sour.
And then we had gotten tacos from Team Taco across the street.
It was the best night.
And they had live music at Ty and Timber.
Eh.
Oh, they were fine, though.
They weren't loud and obnoxious.
They were quiet-ish.
And the weather was super nice and we took a deck of cards and we played cards after we ate our tacos.
Oh, that was smart.
It was so fun.
Oh, that sounds nice.
But that blackberry sour, I'd never had that before.
It was really good.
Really good.
Yeah.
I love their sours.
Yes.
They've got really good sours.
Ty and Timbers just awesome.
Yeah.
Sponsor us.
Agreed.
Well, we're not here to talk about our drunky drunkerson lifestyles.
No.
What are we here for, Cara? 
We are here to talk about our internet search histories with our DTH besties.
Uh huh.
And we do that with The Reading of the Lists!
In this segment we tell you our top five most interesting, funniest, most successful searches of the week.
in list form.
My list for this week is 
Number one, how many bedrooms in High Clear Castle? 
Oh! 
Number two, aphorism.
Number three, Labor Day USA origins.
Number four, Siberian sunglasses.
And number five, est definition.
Est?
Yeah.
Can you please spell the word? E-S-T.
Oh, okay.
All right.
Interesting list.
Here's mine.
I only had four because Caleb, I had a super busy week.
Well.
BUHHH!
Number one, Jackson County tax vote.
Number two, Hedy Lamar.
Number three, claustrophobia/cleithrophobia.
Number four, what is a smoking bishop? 
That's it.
All right, you only have four.
I only have four, yes, cause I just said it was a busy week.
Yes ma'am.
So, now it's time to play a little game we like to call.
SEARCH ME! 
Where we each pose one question to each other and see if we can answer based only on the reading of the list Cara! 
Brea! 
Today you're playing for these. 
What? 
Blue raspberry lemonade Swedish fish 
Wait a second!
I've never seen a different flavor before!
Now you have. 
(exited noises)
I'm excited.
I love lemon stuff.
Do you like raspberry stuff like blue raspberry stuff? 
100% because that's why I was excited about Coca-Cola spiced.
Oh, that's right.
It was supposed to be raspberry like. 
It wasn't though, was it? 
I talked to my boss about that.
He tried it and he didn't know it was supposed to be raspberry.
And he thought, so he went into it thinking this is supposed to taste like mulled wine and he liked it.
For whatever reason he got like spiced, like he was just thinking spices and drinks.
So, he went with mulled wine and he kind of liked it.
So, I may try it again with a different…uh taste and anticipation. 
Yeah maybe. 
I don't know.
Maybe that would help maybe that would make it taste less like cough syrup and more like mulled wine? Are you ready? 
So ready 
Which search resulted from a trip down memory lane as I re-watched one of my favorite series starting over again from episode one. 
All right! 
Mm-hmm.
How many bedrooms at High Clear Castle? 
Yes, ma'am.
Yes! Would you like to guess? Oh, yes.
How many bedrooms are in High Clear Castle? I'm gonna guess…38 
Oh no my higher low? Actually, “Actually.”
This is the weird thing Nobody knows exactly how many bedrooms are in this hike for castle which for people who don't know for the listeners Downton Abbey (that gem of a show by Julian fellows and others) Was shot on location at High Clair Castle in the ancestral home of Count and Countess Carnarvon.
Mm-hmm.
Yes.
She estimates Countess Carnarvon, very, very awkward name.
Yes, quite.
She estimates between 50 and 80.
Okay.
Which is a really big range.
And I think too.
You don't deserve to have that place if you don't even know how many bedrooms are in it.
Yeah, I'm a little annoyed with her right now.
Right.
Then other people have estimated as low as 40.
Why 80? 
So, you were pretty close.
Why does no one know? I have no idea.
Be like, today we're going to count the bedrooms so we know for sure.
Right.
How effing hard is it? I mean, are you that busy as, you know, the person who lives there? What is their title? Count and Countess.
As a Countess, are you that busy? They are pretty busy.
That you can't, well that's true because they've really made a business out of that thing.
That place is a hoppin'.
Also...
The total rooms in High Clair Castle.
How many do you think? Well, how do they know? They don't.
It's another range.
Oh, okay.
Um, alright.
Find the countess.
Two, okay.
One hundred nine.
Two hundred to three hundred.
Whaaaaat? 
There's a one hundred room discrepancy in this range.
This is stupid.
I don't understand.
Now with the bedrooms, I'm thinking maybe it depends on what you call a bedroom.
But the rooms, the total number of rooms, you should know how many rooms.
Look at the blueprint and count.
Now bedrooms, you might say, well, we're not using that as a bedroom right now, but traditionally it would be a bedroom.
You know what I mean? This is a frustrating search.
Yeah.
Anyway, um, if you want to stay there for a night in one of the 40 to 80 bedrooms, it'll cost you about $190, which is a lot less than I thought it would be.
Me too.
Way more reasonable.
I mean, it is just a bedroom.
You would have to share facilities with people.
But do you get to walk around and look at the castle? Certain places I would imagine.
That would be nice.
My sources were ‘USA Today’ and ‘Homes and Antiques’.
Also though, on a related note, also talking about Doc Martin on a related note.
Um, my sister Colleen went to Port When it's not called Port When I can't think of what it's called now.
I think over Easter with her husband and his daughter and her partner and three kids.
And she said it was so cool.
I'll show you the pictures.
Okay.
Oh my gosh.
It's so funny to look at the pictures and be like, I've seen Doc Martin run down that street so many times.
Oh my word.
Yeah.
That is, I'm so jealous.
So, Yep, me too.
So, cool! I know, she said the weather was crap, but...
Oh, well...
But it was still beautiful and still lovely and there was a lot to do.
You know, there's a whole industry now because of that show.
Oh yes.
Just on tourism.
I'm sure.
Huh.
Aw, that's cool.
I know! Alright.
Ooh, I get these fish.
You get the fishies! 
Fish! 
Alright, well not surprisingly, you're...prize is also food related.
Of course.
That's why I've given up and I'm just gonna give you food every week.
Today, you could win these Robins eggs, Easter candy.
I love whoppers.
I do too.
These are so, I wait for Easter to come around to get Robin's eggs and they can't be the little ones because the little ones are gross It's got to be the big ones. 
Got to be the big all hefty ones 
The ones that are actually, probably the size of Robin's eggs probably actually close or anyway.
Oh my gosh here.
I'm gonna pull them closer Inspire yourself.
All right, which of my searches was prompted? by our conversation last week about 1587 Prime Restaurant.
Oh, oh no.
I've got two things.
I'm gonna say Jackson County Tax Vote since that's where it would be located.
That is correct.
Yes! Those Robin's eggs are yours.
I'm gonna eat them all on the way home.
I'm just gonna open the bag and drink them.
Oh, I love those things.
So, Tuesday was election day.
It was.
Sorry, this will be very old news, y'all.
But I was curious if the Jackson County tax vote passed.
Are you familiar with this? I am not.
So, it is a tax in Jackson County that would partially fund a new Royals stadium and major renovations to Arrowhead.
OK, yes.
Now they also have like private funding lined up, but this tax would help because it was going to last for like 40 years or something like that.
It did not pass.
It failed 58% of a failure.
Oh no.
I know.
And what I found out when I was researching this is the owner of the Royals and the Chief's president before the election day, they were already saying they knew it was going to fail.
I guess there was a lot of pushback from citizens because there weren't concrete plans in place and there wasn't a lot of transparency about like, where is the baseball stadium actually going to be? Like they said, “Okay, it's going to be here.”
And then they said, “Oh no, it's going to be here.”
And then they're like, “Oh no, I think we're going to put it downtown.”
And then people were like, “No, you're not putting that downtown.”
That would be a mess.
It was, I guess it didn't go so well.
And then I don't know on the Chief's side if they just didn't have clear renovations, but I thought that there were...
It might have just been because the Royal Stadium was so...
Such a mess.
Such a cluster that that's why they were like, “Nope, sorry.”
I had read a few things about the Chief's stadium.
They were even going to create a tailgate section in the parking lot specifically for those people who just loved to tailgate.
There was gonna be, I read all kinds of things, but maybe those weren't concrete plans.
Maybe these were just ideas that they wanted to do.
I don't know.
But citizens were like, “Until you get us some concrete ideas or plans that we are like, okay, we're okay with that, no siree, Bob.”
Oh no.
So, now they've got to figure out what they're going to do next.
And Kansas is calling and saying, Hey Chiefs, come over here.
I know.
Makes sense that that's why I'm seeing some of those stories now.
Okay. 
Mm-hmm. 
About where should the Chiefs go and I was like, “What are you talking about?” I doubt they'll go anywhere I'd be I would really be surprised.
Although I was really surprised that this didn't pass, but I wasn't following it super closely.
I just knew that it was gonna be on this ballot and I was just curious how it turned out.
Oh boy.
Anyway, my sources were ‘AP News’ and ‘KCTV’.
Alright.
It's time for the most awkward of awkward transitions and segues.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Actually, I think you do.
It's time for shared history.
Oh yeah.
And this is where we tell you.
Our DTH besties in the most awkward way possible what we searched this week, why we searched it and what we learned if anything.
I learned some things. 
I always do too.
Yeah but you know, maybe one week I won't. 
Everything you look up you just already knew
“I knew that,” or it's not a surprise or yeah, or I already knew it like something I had to look up this week.
I had to relook up something It's not in my shared history, but it's on my what about this one list.
Cause I have no, no memory.
You're a goldfish.
I am, “Be a goldfish.”
That's what Ted Lasso would say.
What is your first search? Is a Labor Day USA origin.
Yes.
This is not timely at all.
It's not Labor Day, but closer to Memorial Day than Labor Day.
I'm curious as to why you, what prompted you to look that up? Here's why.
Because there's a new season of QI on Brit Box.
And I love that show.
I know you do.
And I binged the crap out of it already.
And now I'm sad because I'm done with this season.
They call them series.
So, each series focuses on a letter.
It has a letter as a theme.
Oh, okay.
Kind of like a Sesame Seed episode.
A, “Sesame Seed?” 
(dying)
I'm hungry again, y'all.
Oh no.
I ate some dried fruit before I came in here just to keep the blood sugar up, but it's a problem.
I love dried fruit.
Sesame Street.
“This series is brought to you by the letter U.”
That's what they do every season.
Okay.
They have a different letter that they focus on.
And one of the episodes was titled ‘Uncle Sam’.
And it was all about the USA.
And they did not talk about Uncle Sam at all.
And I was disappointed because I was like, damn, and I know all about Uncle Sam because of Cara.
That's right.
But they didn't even bring him up.
Oh.
It was just the way that they were being, you know.
Well, they could have just said the United States.
I'd say you.
Yeah.
Anyway, they were just being clever.
The topic of Labor Day came up in this episode about the United States.
And I have never.
put this together and you'll see why in a second.
Labor Day came up as part of the Haymarket affair in Chicago, a violent confrontation between Chicago police and labor protesters.
It was basically a union thing.
Things got out of hand.
Police had to be called in.
There was a riot.
Blah, blah, blah.
And this spawned Labor Day in the U.S.
But it happened in May of 1889.
Okay.
Labor Day in the United States is in what month, Cara? September.
Correct.
First Monday in September.
But International Workers Day is observed on May 1st.
Oh, interesting.
Okay.
And that has made the Haymarket Affair a symbol of the international struggle for workers rights.
Okay.
But President Grover Cleveland didn't want to associate the Haymarket affair with the US observation of Labor Day.
He was like, “I don't want to condone the violence that happened that day. I don't want to glorify it. So, we're going to have our Labor Day in September.”
But Labor Day was prompted by that event? Yes.
Hey Grover, that doesn't even make any sense.
I know.
Okay.
I mean, I get it, but that's dumb.
This happened.
Congress was like, “Hey, we should have a day to, you know, honor the workers of this country and we should call it Labor Day.”
And there was already an international workers day.
And of course the United States is like, “We're not celebrating it when the rest of the world celebrates it. Eff-You! We are USA USA. So, we're gonna celebrate it in...Well, September, of course.”
Makes sense.
United States, we are so dumb.
We are so dumb.
I mean, really.
My sources were ‘Britannica’ and ‘QI’.
Okay.
I've never gotten into QI.
I've watched some episodes.
I just can't get into it.
Oh gosh.
I just think it is so funny.
All the people on it.
So, funny.
I like it more now that Sandy Toksvig is the host than I did when Stephen Fry was the host.
And I watched the episodes with her.
I liked Stephen Fry a lot, but sometimes he would get snippy with people.
I do love Stephen Fry.
He's one of my favorite of the 50 British actors.
He would get pretty impatient with the shenanigans that would go on.
Because it's a panel show and it's comedians and comedians always want to be the center of attention and they're all vying to get their little digs in and their little jokes in and they're interrupting each other and they're interrupting him because, “Oh, I got a great joke that goes along with what you just said!”
and he would sometimes get kind of pissy about it.
Also, he came off because he was the host, and so he had all the answers.
I mean, it's not a quiz show, really.
They do have a score at the end, but it's supposed to be funny.
It's not a real score.
Since he was the host, he knew all the information, or he had all the information on his cards.
But the way his mannerisms and everything, it just made him come off seeming so arrogant and know it all.
Kind of like Alex Trebek.
A little bit.
R.I.P Alex.
Oh, R.I.P.
You were kind of a know-it-all.
Yes.
But you had the answers in front of you.
Right.
And it wasn't his fault, because that's the nature of it.
Right.
It's like, “Damn you Alex Trebek for being such a know-it-all and having all the answers. Oh, wait a second that's your job.”
Anyway, that's what I found out.
All right.
My first search is Hedy Lamarr.
You know who Hedy Lamarr is? I love her.
Sean was trying to say her name, but he couldn't.
He kept saying Tippi Hedren.
Oh yes, because of Hetty.
He said something about, I don't even remember the conversation, but I was like, “Um, you have, whatever you're trying to say to me, incredibly wrong, because Tippi Hedren was not the person that you're trying to say.”
It was some, well I'll get to it.
Okay.
I don't want to reveal where I'm going with this.
Okay.
Which you probably already know.
If you're a Hetty Lamar fan.
I am a big fan of hers, and I may have learned a thing or two about her on QI.
And other shows like that.
Well, for those of you that don't know, I learned she was an Australian, 
(blabbering)
Not Australian, an Austrian American actress and inventor.
Yes ma'am.
She was born Hedwig Eva Keisler.
Oh my gosh.
In Vienna, Austria, November 9th, 1914.
That was a rough labor.
“You are Hedwig!” 
I mean, you come out and you're a precious little baby who looks like Winston Churchill.
But still, you're a precious angel baby and your parents call you, “Hedwig.”
Somebody lost a bet.
Oh my gosh.
She was discovered by director Max Reinhardt at age 16 and she studied acting with him in Berlin and was in her first small film role by 1930.
There's a lot to this woman's history.
I'm kind of cutting it down.
So, if y'all want to know all the details, go research it yourself.
In 1932, she gained recognition as an actress for her role in the controversial film, Ecstasy.
Oh, I wonder why it was controversial.
Well, I can tell you if I want to know.
I think I can surmise.
Was it naughty? Well, people thought that it was.
It probably not by today's standards.
It showed her in a closeup in ecstasy.
Oh, like her face.
Oh, I see.
I see.
They showed her O face.
Her O face.
Exactly.
That is, that is now the third reference to office face.
I think we should keep count now.
Okay.
Um, and then I guess there were some closeups, brief nudity that she said she was tricked into.
I don't know.
Oh, probably.
Anyway, so that's when she really became notorious.
People were like, “Oh my gosh, that Hedy Lamar.”
Austrian munitions dealer Fritz Mendel became one of her adoring fans after seeing her in a play.
They married in 1933, but it was short lived.
He was a controlling, jealous husband and wouldn't allow her to act in other movies.
What a dick! That's how he met her and fell in love with her.
He didn't want to share her with anyone.
That's just wrong.
And she thought so too.
She was incredibly unhappy and in the marriage she was forced to play host to his friends and business partners, many of whom were associated with the Nazis.
Oh no.
She escaped her marriage in 1937 and fled to London where she eventually was introduced to Louis B.
Mayer.
The? 
Whaaaaat? 
This meeting secured her ticket to Hollywood and she was quickly rubbing elbows with the rich and famous.
Including Howard Hughes.
The Howard Hughes? The Howard Hughes.
They dated.
But she was mostly interested in him because of his desire for innovation.
Ah, she had a scientific mind cleanliness and she was always like tinkering with things.
Yes.
And I guess when she was a kid, she would take apart her music box and then put it all back together.
And she liked that kind of stuff.
Um, Hughes helped her fuel her interest in innovation by gifting her a small set of electronic equipment to experiment with in her trailer on the movie sets.
Well, she was working.
She wasn't eating bonbons just laying down on the chairs long.
She was um doing experiments.
Like, “Hedy 15 minutes!”
She's like, “Okay I'm almost done inventing this!”
She apparently also had an inventing table slash lab in her home where she worked on things and ideas.
She was not just a pretty face.
She would tour his airplane factories where she learned how planes were built along with their electronics and how they worked.
And she once said, improving things comes naturally to me.
She went on to create an upgraded stoplight and a tablet that dissolved in water to make a soda similar to Coca-Cola.
Okay.
However her most significant invention was engineered as the United States was gearing up for World War II.
In 1940, Lamar met George Antheil at a dinner party who shared the same inventive interests as she did.
They talked about the looming war and began to kick around ideas to combat the enemy, them Nazis.
They came up with a new communication system to guide torpedoes to their targets.
and use frequency hopping amongst radio waves with both transmitter and receivers hopping to new frequencies together.
At the same time, what? This frequency hopping prevented the interception of the radio waves by the Nazis, allowing torpedoes to find their intended target.
They sought a patent together and military support for the invention.
And while awarded a US patent, In August of 1942, the Navy decided against implementing this new communication system.
The patent eventually expired and she continued acting without recognition of this invention.
Yep.
Boo! However, in 1997, she and Antheil were awarded the Pioneer Award for their invention and Lamar became the first woman to receive the invention conventions, ‘Bulby NAS.
Spirit of Achievement Award’.
Talk about...
What a name.
That's worse than Hedwig.
Although she died in the year 2000...
In the year 2000! 
(dying)
Freaking Conan O'Brien.
Oh my gosh.
Oh my lord.
I'm going to keep giggling at that.
Lamar was inducted into the National Inventors Hall of Fame for the development of her frequency hopping technology in 2014.
So, their idea of frequency hopping introduced the technology that would serve as the foundation of today's Wi-Fi, GPS, and Bluetooth communication systems.
Yes.
We are using.
Her invention right now.
Yeah.
Pretty wild.
There's a documentary.
Did you see that? It's called Bombshell.
Yes.
I want to see that.
It looks really good.
I watched a trailer for it.
My sources were ‘PBS’, ‘womenshistory.org’, and the ‘official Hedy Lamar website’.
Such a fascinating person.
So, I know.
I cut out so much, you guys.
Just brilliant.
Brilliant, brilliant lady.
Yeah.
You should do some more research on your own.
She is cool.
Yep.
She was a badass.
My second search that I'm going to talk about anyway, is est definition.
Est was a popular form of large group self-improvement training in the 1970s and was mentioned in that book that I am still reading about San Francisco in the seventies.
I was going to ask you if this came from that book.
It did.
Part of the human potential movement, est was a four day, 60 hour.
self-help program.
It's actually an acronym for Erhard Seminar Training, because it was developed by Werner Erhard.
Werner.
In 1971, or Werner, but I think it was Werner.
I'm going to go with the German pronunciation because I like it.
It blended a variety of religious, philosophical and therapeutic methods.
So, it was not self-help, it was like group help, but like self-improvement.
It encouraged people to experience themselves as the creators of their own circumstances and their own destinies.
But it was kind of like tough love.
Oh, like it was, it was rough.
They were strict.
Okay.
And it was kind of like, you are in control of your life.
Stop being such a whiny, titty baby.
Like that kind of thing.
I don't think they use those exact words.
This is not a quote from the book.
This is the Brea Brown method.
Is it still around today? Cause I could maybe use that.
No.
Okay.
And I'll tell you why.
Interestingly, it has been used in correctional facilities, which kind of makes sense, you know, you've got to be tough with some people.
Mostly within the state of California, at Lompoc and San Quentin.
San Quentin.
That's where Machete went.
What's his name? The actor.
Machete! Oh! Mm-hmm.
Machete.
I almost saw him once.
Crystal Bridges.
Hang on, it's gonna come to me.
I can see his face.
Me too.
I keep trying to say Rico and it's not.
You're such a racist.
I know.
We just saw his biography out there on the shelves.
Not too long ago.
Why? Can we not come up with his name? I don't know.
Machete.
Anyway, he was in prison there before he cleaned up his life and became a big star.
Yes.
Yeah.
Anyway, the seminars led by Earhart ran from 1971 to late 1984.
Various critics accused the program of mind control to the point that some labeled it as a cult.
Now some of the ground rules at each seminar.
which took place over two weekends.
So, you'd have four days, it'd be a Saturday, Sunday, Saturday, Sunday.
And these were marathon sessions to fit 30 hours into two days.
Yes.
That's a lot.
It is.
Some of the ground rules at each seminar were no watches, no speaking unless called on, no talking.
to your neighbor.
No eating or leaving to use the bathroom except during designated breaks and these were, there were hours long stretches.
Oh my goodness.
And then sessions lasted from 9 a.m. to midnight.
Oh my gosh.
With one meal break.
Oh no.
That's the deal breaker.
Right, absolutely, I'm out.
That's the deal breaker.
They would have, I would be looking at watches.
Yes.
With only one meal break.
I would be speaking out of turn.
I'd be talking to my neighbor.
I'd be doing everything I could just get kicked out of there so I could go to McDonald's.
F you, Earhart.
Anyway, a gentler version of the program, dubbed ‘The Forum’, began in January of 1985.
This is all I have for you.
You don't know if The Gentler Forum is still available? I don't know.
I stopped because I thought we have to keep the time down.
Understood.
That's Est.
My sources were ‘Encyclopedia.com’, ‘Wikipedia’, and ‘The Office of Justice Programs’.
My next search is claustrophobia/cleithrophobia.
Nice.
I'm looking this up because I have an MRI on Sunday morning.
Oh, and I have some slight claustrophobia, just like it's not bad.
Um, and so I, I just kind of wanted to look up and see, well, wait, do I have claustrophobia? I wanted to know the actual meaning of claustrophobia and it is a fear of confined spaces.
And so yes, I do have a little bit of claustrophobia.
Then I stumbled along a word, another phobia that's similar, called cleithrophobia.
(spells it out) 
Cleithrophobia is the fear of being trapped.
Now they can be confused because they are similar, but the distinction between the two is that clethrophobia is a fear of a situation and claustrophobia is fear of a type of place.
Okay.
Um, so I have an example for you.
Someone with claustrophobia might be anxious stepping into a small tent, but someone with cleithrophobia would feel fine because of the perceived ease of being able to exit. 
Yes.
Even if that flap is zipped up, I pretty much punch a hole in this thing.
Right.
But if you have claustrophobia, it might just feel like that tent is closing in on you.
And you would be paralyzed by the fear of the enclosed space and would not even be able to think about, well, I can just get out of here.
You would start.
Like panic attacks ensue you have trouble breathing your heart races.
Yeah, you would spiral. 
Yeah.
An elevator is usually challenging for people with either of these phobias because it is a small enclosed space and there is always the possibility that the doors won't open when they should oh my gosh I got trapped in an elevator one time It was awful.
I also remember the very first time in an airplane we were near the front of the plane.
This was my very first time.
I'd never been on an airplane, never flown, anything.
And when they closed that door, and I saw it close, we were close enough to the front that I saw them close that door.
I don't know how to really explain what I felt.
And it wasn't, I wouldn't say it was a fear, but it was this feeling of like, this is it.
I cannot get out of here.
I knew that I could not leave and that bothered the crap out of me.
Now it doesn't bother me now.
I've flown lots of times since that, well, lots of times.
I have flown multiple times since that and it doesn't bother me.
But oh man, that, that ka-chunk.
And then the lock.
Yeah.
Oh man, that bugged me.
Yeah.
I didn't, that was some clethorphobia going on right there.
I think maybe just a little bit.
And I was there for a split second.
I thought I might lose it.
And like, I was getting real rigid and, oh, yeah, like, “I got to get out of here.”
Yes.
It was not a good feeling, but I looked at Sean and he was like, it's going to be okay.
He just got me.
He was like, it's going to be okay.
We'd been married for like 12 hours at that point.
I think he was talking to himself.
He more than anything, he's like, I'm married to this person.
I married her.
It's going to be okay.
I can do this.
It's going to be okay, Sean.
Anyway, so yeah, anyway, I got a sedative for this MRI.
Oh, good.
Just in case.
I think I probably could have done it.
But I don't want to take any chances because I don't want to have to go back and do this again because if you move Yeah, it's over.
Yeah, you've got appointments.
They've got appointments.
Yep.
You don't have time 
You’ve got to sit still and get this shit done.
It sucks I am NOT looking forward to it, but I am looking forward to getting it over with. 
So, are they giving you the sedative? No, my doctor called it in already picked it up In fact, they said they went so far say, “We will not give patients sedatives, you got to take care of that yourself.”
I thought about just doing a gummy. 
But then I thought, “Mmmm”.
No, because what if you have a bad.
Bad trip.
Bad trip and an MRI.
Yeah.
I don't want to be on the front page of the newspaper.
So.
Man, I'm telling you, like, I don't really think that I'm that claustrophobic.
It does bother me, like, if I'm below ground or I think too much about, like, being underwater.
Mm-hmm.
In something in an enclosed space, but I think that's more of the cleithrophobia that you're talking about.
Yeah, I could see that.
That I'm trapped and I can't get out of here.
Being buried alive is like one of my biggest like, oh man, I just can't handle it.
but when you go into that tube, not to freak you out.
Oh, I'm already freaked out.
But it is so close to your face, the top of that thing, that even when you close your eyes, you can feel it in front of your face.
You just know, you can sense it, that there is hardly any space between your face and the top of that tube, so you can't sit up.
You would have to slither out.
That's hence the sedative.
I was not given that option.
They told me over and over, like I got multiple emails and notifications.
“If you think you need a sedative, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it.”
So, I did it.
So, we'll see.
Anyway, this is all prompted from my stupid migraines that I've been having.
And so my doctor is like, “You have no baseline.”
This is important.
We're going to do this.
Yeah.
I'm super annoyed about it because I do not need an MRI.
I'm gonna do it anyway.
But you say you don't need an MRI.
I don't.
You know what is gonna be the best thing out of this? Is to make sure they don't see any plaque on my brain from the Alzheimer's that I have.
What if they do? If they do, then that's great.
I know that I have Alzheimer's and I have an excuse now.
Yes, that's the problem.
I am the most highly functioning Alzheimer's patient.
Absolutely.
I'm gonna get a t-shirt with that on it.
Oh, sweet.
Um, my source for that was ‘Manhattan Center for Behavioral Cognitive Therapy’ and ‘Google’.
Okay.
You're gonna be fine.
I'm gonna be fine.
Especially with your sedative.
That's gonna be sweet.
I'm pretty excited about it.
I've never been jealous of someone having to have an MRI before.
But now I am.
My third search is Siberian sunglasses.
Yeah.
Okay.
I love a show called...
‘Madame Blanc Mysteries’.
Okay.
Sally Lindsay, which you would know her if you saw her.
She's an English actress.
She plays an English antiques dealer living in the South of France.
What a rough life.
Who also helps the local police in the tiny village of Saint-Victor.
She helps them solve crimes.
Fun.
Like you do.
When you're an antiques dealer.
Of course.
Who doesn't really speak the language.
It's just a cute kind of kitschy show.
One of the best features of the show is the showcasing of rare and interesting antiques that Sally's character finds as part of her business.
So, she has a client who gives her challenges to find things and he's trying to stump her.
And so they'll show things and they'll be like, “Oh, this was Jeremy, this was another Jeremy find,” or whatever.
One of them.
In an episode I watched recently, um, was a pair of Siberian sunglasses.
Now we will put this on social media.
Okay.
But it's a sheet of flattened metal, usually the ones that she had anyway.
It was a sheet of flattened metal that you attach to your face with a ribbon and it had just slits where the eyes are.
Yes.
Like crosses.
Like cross slits.
Yes.
And they're also called Siberian snow goggles.
They were developed 2,000 years ago, and they're among the world's earliest eyewear to prevent blindness from the sun's reflection off the snow.
Yes.
But one of the other characters put them on, and he said, “I can't see a bloody thing.”
So, it was hilarious.
In addition to being made with metal or silver, they're also often made out of walrus teeth.
Walrus teeth? You heard me.
Whale bone or leather.
As well as wood bark and hair.
Bleh.
They're very interesting.
I, something is coming up from my past in my brain that they'll probably see on the MRI.
And they're like, “why does she think about Siberian glasses?” 
I don't know where is probably, it's probably some stupid day in elementary school when we talked about something weird like that.
But I have seen these, I have seen these and I'm seeing a classroom setting.
Oh man, I'm having a serious like flashback here.
I didn't realize that's what they were called though.
When you first said that, you know what popped in my head? What? This is how stupid I am.
And maybe it's good I'm having an MRI.
A Siberian husky wearing sunglasses.
Yes.
That's what I thought of first.
That came up in the Google search.
And I giggled.
I was like, oh no, don't laugh.
That came up in the Google search was pictures of Siberian huskies in sunglasses.
I was like, “Really? Really Google?” That was me.
I posted all those.
My sources were ‘Ancient Origins’ and ‘Wikipedia’.
Don't you mean “Micapedia?” Okay, this is my last one.
That's right.
What is a smoking bishop? Do you know what this is? It sounds like a sexual euphemism.
Right, it reminded me of a penis or- Bashing the bishop.
Yes, exactly.
It's not.
Oh, thank God.
Because this is a family show.
Right.
I rewatched ‘Dickensian’, one of my favorite, favorite BBC period pieces.
Yes.
20 part series.
Now each episode is 30 minutes.
Right.
So.
It's only 10 hours.
It's not like 21 seasons of ‘Mid-Summer Murder’.
Right, right.
Exactly.
Um, for those of you that don't know, this is a series where many of Charles Dickens books are woven together and the characters are all living in London and some of their lives are connected and some of them are simply crossing paths as strangers.
So.
you spend some time with, you know, the Bumbles and they get, you know, some food from a street vendor and they walk away and then you see Detective Bucket or Bob Cratchit because they're, you know, on the street as well at the same time.
It's very clever and it's very entertaining and I love it.
And it's got many of the 50 British actors.
Yes, it does.
The synopsis is that someone has murdered Jacob Marley and Detective Bucket, who is from the story Bleak House, is trying to solve the murder.
I just love this show so much.
And Inspector Bucket is Steven Ray.
Steven Ray, who is, oh, I love him.
The way he talks, he's kind of nasally.
Oh my gosh, you guys, if you like.
British period pieces, you gotta watch this.
If you like people named Tupence Middleton, you'll love this.
Charles Dickens, he, speaking of names, he names his characters, oh, I love it.
I just love his character names.
Speaking of which, Mrs.Bumble offers her husband's employer a smoking bishop after dinner one evening.
It's a drink turns out.
It is a mulled wine punch that is sweet and a classic Victorian beverage.
It's Coca-Cola spiced.
This is a quote from Food and Cooking in Victorian England, A History.
Its whimsical name recalled its medieval origins when it was sometimes served at guild halls and university banquets in bowls that resembled a bishop's miter.
In keeping with the clerical theme, Victorians also enjoyed smoking popes made with burgundy, smoking cardinals made with champagne or Rhine wine, smoking archbishops fortified with claret, and the smoking beadle—that's B-E-A-D-L-E, which is another church official, I had to look that one up— that called for raisins and ginger wine.
No, thank you.
On ‘ToriAvery.com’, she references a period accurate recipe found in a book called ‘Apician Morsels’ from 1829.
So, I'm going to sludge my way through this.
1829 verbiage.
Whoa.
This is how you make a smoking bishop.
Okay.
Make several incisions into the rind of a lemon, stick cloves into the incisions and roast.
said lemons by the fire.
Put small but equal quantities of cinnamon, mace, cloves, and allspice and a race of ginger into a saucepan with half a pint of water.
Let it boil until it be reduced one half.
Boil one bottle of port wine.
Burn a portion of the spirit out of it by applying a lighted paper to the saucepan which contains it.
~Smoking~
Put the roasted lemons and spice into the wine.
Stir it up well and let it stand near the fire 10 minutes.
Rub a few knobs of sugar on the rind of the lemon.
Put the sugar into a bowl or a jug with the juice of half of a lemon, not roasted.
Pour the wine upon it.
Sweeten it to your taste and serve it up with the lemon and spice floating in it.
So, there you go.
That's how you make yourself a smoking bishop.
It sounds like a lot of trouble.
A lot of work.
I mean you got to stoke the fire and keep it going and reduce it by one half.
And then light the paper and the.
Nope.
My sources were ‘toriav.com’, the TV show ‘Dickensian’ ‘Food and cooking in Victorian England, a History’.
You know, I loves me some.
Victorian England, even though it smelled real bad.
My last search is aphorism.
Yes, okay.
I was trying to figure out if God strike me pink or strike me pink was an aphorism.
Okay.
It's not.
Okay.
Because an aphorism is a pithy observation that contains a general truth.
Oh.
Such as.
“If it ain't broke, don't fix it.”
Mm-hmm 
“When life gives you lemons make a smoking bishop.”
Make lemonade, “A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush,” I hate that one.
I hate that saying. 
“Only the good die young.”
I was dumb to mm-hmm. 
Although it's kind of true.
Because I know a lot of old terrible people that you just want in particular that I'm thinking of just please just die. 
“People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.”
Things like that.
But sometimes you have to explain to somebody if they've never heard it before.
But after it's explained to you or you know what the context is or whatever, then it makes sense.
Say that word again.
Aphorism.
So, “God strike me pink,” was not an aphorism.
No, that would be more like a, I don't even know what that...
It's just an exclamation of surprise.
Crazy Australians.
Yeah.
I, I don't know.
I don't know where they got that.
I don't either.
So, yeah, that's, but I was, I was trying to think of a fancy word for, for a saying like that when I was doing social media this past week.
Gotcha.
What little I did.
I don't do a lot of Cara, I'm so sorry.
Um, my sources were ‘Socratic.org’ and ‘Google Dictionary’.
“Socratic.org?” 
Yeah.
Okay.
But what about this one? 
What about it? 
This is a quick listing of our other searches from the past week that we didn't have time to discuss in this episode, or were just too damn BORING.
That's correct.
Yeah, boring.
Here's my list.
OK.
Word spell check switching to French.
Again? Did it again.
Stop it.
City utilities.
Oh.
School board candidates.
Bloom chic.
Mm-hmm.
UFL 2024 schedule.
Here it comes.
When does it start? It started last week.
Oh, it did? I missed the first game.
Already? Uh-huh, uh-huh.
Okay.
But there's a game tomorrow.
Good for you.
Are you excited? I'm so excited.
I just can't hide it.
Honeybee population health in the USA.
Mo Mowlam.
It's a person.
Oh, gotcha.
Michelle Dockery.
Yes.
Arrecipolis.
Oh, yes.
You like it? You know what that's from? Poor Mosley.
You're right.
It is from Mosley.
That was before he started temping his tar.
Oh, poor Mosley.
Oh my gosh.
He's such a sad sack.
He and Edith are the most tragic characters in the whole series of Downton Abbey.
my favorite Edith meme ever is where they list all of the men, all of her boyfriends.
And it's like, “This one too old, died, this one dumped her at the altar.”
You know, they just go through and then at the very bottom is a picture of her with this sad sack face and she goes, “I don't think I should be allowed to choose my boyfriends.”
Something like that.
Oh, it's so funny.
Oh yeah.
Anyway, can you use macros and Google Docs? No.
Free Charleston Pride activities June, 2024.
And Rolfing definition.
All right.
Okay.
Here's my list.
It's short.
Springfield Art Museum Renaissance Works.
When can I stop getting pap smears? The answer is never.
Oh, that's grim.
Greene County election results.
What is a Galgo dog? Spanish Greyhound turns out. TV quote.
I've got some, I've got something on my mind grapes.
Why do I know that? Because it was on 30 rock, the character Tracy Jordan.
Yes.
I was a very sporadic watcher of that show.
He said, “I got something on my mind grapes.”
Oh my gosh.
I knew I just, I couldn't remember what that was from.
I had to look it up and then Shire horses.
The end.
The end.
All right.
I've got something on my mind grapes.
Tell me it's about shout outs.
Do you have any listener shout outs? I have one.
Excellent.
Martha D contacted me.
Oh, she knows of two people who are currently using the Be Real app.
Really? Yep.
And they're just, they're the only two.
Like it would be like if you and I were doing it, they don't have a whole group of people they're doing.
It's just the two of them.
So, every day they show each other where they are, what they're doing.
Oh my, Nope.
Don't even think about it, Cara.
I'm not doing it.
All right.
Um, that reminds me, Payton, when he was transcribing the episode.
Yes.
And he came down and said, “I have the BeReal app on my phone.”
And I said, “Do you still use it?” 
And he goes, “No, I used it like maybe three times.”
And I said, “Delete it.”
Right? If you're not using an app, delete it.
Get rid of it.
Because that's just another thing for somebody to hack.
Yeah.
So, he did, right there.
Deleted it right in front of me.
Good job, mom.
Yeah.
We are ever vigilant.
I didn't even know he had it.
That's how vigilant I am.
Oh boy.
Anyway, he's super excited to transcribe episodes.
Cara.
Yes.
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Hey, that was really good.
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Mm.
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I haven’t said that in a long time.
At ‘DTH Gals’ on ‘Instagram’ and ‘Threads’.
And also ‘Facebook Delete This History’.
Yep.
You got it.
I almost forgot.
On the old.
I have balls.
(dying)
Can I come with you to your MRI? We can lay side by side in the MRI.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, it's just not tight enough in there.
I mean, we do have one brain, so.
Maybe they could put you in one side and then I could go in the other side and they could compare our brains side by side and be like, “This is freaky.”
If they just find a brain in my head, I'm gonna be happy.
So, we'll see.
Okay.
Yeah.
Um, before that.
Yes.
What are you gonna do? I am gonna go delete all of this history, get it out of here like Peyton and his BeReal app.
That's right.
Start afresh for a new week.
Yes.
What about you? Are you gonna do that too? I think I will too.
Okay.
Then I'm gonna go home and I'm gonna watch some more ‘Downton Abbey’.
That's a great idea.
I love it.
Well, stay fresh, you cheese bags.
Hell yeah, that's the only way to be.
Bye, Brea.
Bye.
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