WEBVTT 00:00:02.189 --> 00:00:11.810 It's Dan Time. Grab a seat. It's Dan Time. Yeah. 00:00:11.949 --> 00:00:22.230 It's Dan Time. Only dance on the line. Only dance 00:00:22.230 --> 00:00:27.730 all the time. This is the Dan Time podcast with 00:00:27.730 --> 00:00:39.039 your host, Dan McGarrett. I would love to have 00:00:39.039 --> 00:00:41.280 you come up. I want to take you to Deggy Street 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:43.520 in Chatham. That's where Fergie Jenkins grew 00:00:43.520 --> 00:00:48.200 up. I know he was a big hero for you. Chatham 00:00:48.200 --> 00:00:52.399 is on the bucket list. If you ever come up, I'll 00:00:52.399 --> 00:00:54.280 get you to do some research on the War of 1812, 00:00:54.340 --> 00:00:56.979 and I could take you some historical sites from 00:00:56.979 --> 00:00:59.920 the War of 1812. And we have the forts in Amherstburg 00:00:59.920 --> 00:01:02.399 just south of here, so yeah. Historically, it's 00:01:02.399 --> 00:01:05.079 a pretty interesting place. Anyway, this has 00:01:05.079 --> 00:01:06.959 been kind of a nice chat. If nothing else, we've... 00:01:07.019 --> 00:01:08.840 Gone like you said some circles, but you just 00:01:08.840 --> 00:01:11.840 want to catch up. So it's been great Dan I I 00:01:11.840 --> 00:01:15.480 didn't come with a long list of prepared questions 00:01:15.480 --> 00:01:18.599 like maybe the first time but I Think my viewers 00:01:18.599 --> 00:01:20.640 and listeners sometimes enjoy that just enjoy 00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:23.680 the rapport Actually, I mean I have an idea for 00:01:23.680 --> 00:01:26.560 ya. Yeah get your wife to do a podcast I'll put 00:01:26.560 --> 00:01:29.040 Brenda on with her now that might be the hook 00:01:29.040 --> 00:01:31.379 because I've not been able I've been trying to 00:01:31.379 --> 00:01:34.700 get Natalie to do a podcast with me Yes, and 00:01:34.700 --> 00:01:37.260 she's always said no, I don't you that's your 00:01:37.260 --> 00:01:39.439 thing. You got plenty of people you can call 00:01:39.439 --> 00:01:43.040 They can compare notes publicly over their husbands. 00:01:43.579 --> 00:01:48.879 Yeah, that sounds like a great idea Dan I hope 00:01:48.879 --> 00:01:52.420 that you get up in a couple more months Back 00:01:52.420 --> 00:01:55.340 in the gym. Yeah doing it back. It's trying to 00:01:55.340 --> 00:02:06.069 improve your your 40 41 yeah Sometime, I'll send 00:02:06.069 --> 00:02:08.949 you a picture sometime. They actually have organized 00:02:08.949 --> 00:02:11.889 sports and games for people with organ transplants. 00:02:12.530 --> 00:02:16.250 Oh, really? I don't know if you know that. 1990, 00:02:16.389 --> 00:02:18.030 10 months after my first transplant, I went to 00:02:18.030 --> 00:02:21.849 the Canadian Games and I got two golds and a 00:02:21.849 --> 00:02:25.349 silver. I got a gold in the 60 meters and the 00:02:25.349 --> 00:02:31.509 silver in the 4x100 meter. Maybe that's the validation 00:02:31.509 --> 00:02:33.069 for the challenge of sports because I got to 00:02:33.069 --> 00:02:35.629 do sports after I never thought I'd do it again 00:02:35.629 --> 00:02:38.710 On some low now Dan. I realized one question. 00:02:38.710 --> 00:02:42.590 I probably didn't ask the first go -around When 00:02:42.590 --> 00:02:45.250 you were a young You're a young boy. You're 8 00:02:45.250 --> 00:02:49.050 9 10 12 years old Did you like to play any kind 00:02:49.050 --> 00:02:50.909 of sport that you that was available to you? 00:02:50.909 --> 00:02:53.969 Did you like basketball? Did you like swimming? 00:02:54.409 --> 00:02:57.069 Did you have opportunities to swim and I was 00:02:57.069 --> 00:03:00.610 baseball When I was in high school and I got 00:03:00.610 --> 00:03:03.689 competing against people of my own size, I was 00:03:03.689 --> 00:03:07.169 a wrestler and I was a distance runner. I was 00:03:07.169 --> 00:03:08.889 a very good distance runner as a matter of fact. 00:03:09.810 --> 00:03:11.550 So people were surprised when my heart went. 00:03:12.409 --> 00:03:15.909 Like I ran cross country and my secret wrestling 00:03:15.909 --> 00:03:18.129 was at 98 pounds I was three years old and everybody 00:03:18.129 --> 00:03:22.949 else went weight class. And I had a little bit 00:03:22.949 --> 00:03:25.289 of a mean streak back then. A little bit of a 00:03:25.289 --> 00:03:28.860 mean streak. No, we played the recreational sports 00:03:28.860 --> 00:03:31.780 baseball. We're always out in the field. I'm 00:03:31.780 --> 00:03:34.180 sure you went through this when you're playing 00:03:34.180 --> 00:03:35.699 baseball, the lights come on, it was time to 00:03:35.699 --> 00:03:38.900 go home. Yeah. Or your mother stepped out the 00:03:38.900 --> 00:03:42.979 door and yelled out, Dan, you know. And our baseball 00:03:42.979 --> 00:03:44.680 field was only about 100 feet from the door. 00:03:45.639 --> 00:03:48.819 And road hockey, that's a Canadian thing. And 00:03:48.819 --> 00:03:50.699 if you're ever with a Canadian and you want to 00:03:50.699 --> 00:03:53.340 see them jump, just say car. Because you're playing 00:03:53.340 --> 00:03:54.780 road hockey and somebody else car that means 00:03:54.780 --> 00:03:57.479 get off the roads are coming through But that's 00:03:57.479 --> 00:04:02.099 a bit of a tradition up here On the on the baseball 00:04:02.099 --> 00:04:04.800 front when you got up to bat and you're you're 00:04:04.800 --> 00:04:07.319 a kid and you get to pretend to be a ballplayer 00:04:07.319 --> 00:04:09.699 Did you have a player that you said? Okay, I'm 00:04:09.699 --> 00:04:14.039 a Okay line or who oh Probably Willie Horton. 00:04:14.699 --> 00:04:17.519 Yeah, it's a great story. They said the east 00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:21.079 side of Detroit to left field Tiger Stadium And 00:04:21.079 --> 00:04:24.480 when they had the riots back in 67, they had 00:04:24.480 --> 00:04:26.379 to cancel the second game of a double header 00:04:26.379 --> 00:04:29.060 because of the riots. And Willie Horton went 00:04:29.060 --> 00:04:31.980 out in the streets with his uniform on to calm 00:04:31.980 --> 00:04:35.300 people down. And he's a legend for that because 00:04:35.300 --> 00:04:37.819 he really believed in his community. And he meant 00:04:37.819 --> 00:04:40.100 something to the community going from East Side 00:04:40.100 --> 00:04:43.399 of Detroit to Tiger Stadium. And he realized 00:04:43.399 --> 00:04:45.980 that. And these are back in the days when the 00:04:45.980 --> 00:04:48.740 LK Alliance realized they had an obligation to 00:04:48.740 --> 00:04:51.269 those kids to be good role models. Some didn't 00:04:51.269 --> 00:04:56.029 see it that way, but they did I Think I think 00:04:56.029 --> 00:05:01.589 we're back in that place now To an extent not 00:05:01.589 --> 00:05:04.850 that Everybody should look to the two sports 00:05:04.850 --> 00:05:07.769 venues and ball fields for their heroes. But 00:05:07.769 --> 00:05:11.550 man, it's it's hard to look elsewhere Well, what 00:05:11.550 --> 00:05:14.110 just applies to you right now with some of these 00:05:14.110 --> 00:05:15.850 fellas and I'm gonna be judgmental here, but 00:05:15.850 --> 00:05:21.470 to that doing betting Advertisements. Yeah Wayne 00:05:21.470 --> 00:05:24.290 Gretzky is doing advertisers for betting and 00:05:24.290 --> 00:05:27.129 that's not going over well up here. It's not 00:05:27.129 --> 00:05:29.930 going well up. He doesn't need the money, but 00:05:29.930 --> 00:05:33.209 people really held him in such high esteem and 00:05:33.209 --> 00:05:35.449 he did everything right. He really did. When 00:05:35.449 --> 00:05:36.730 we started getting the betting, people went, 00:05:36.750 --> 00:05:40.870 we don't know if we know him anymore. And that's 00:05:40.870 --> 00:05:44.910 unfortunate, but I found that betting has really 00:05:44.910 --> 00:05:47.569 taken some of the enjoyment out of sports. I 00:05:47.569 --> 00:05:50.629 think so. It's uh, and you never know online 00:05:50.629 --> 00:05:54.449 who's who's being nasty What they comment and 00:05:54.449 --> 00:05:57.250 what they post if they're if they're so enraged 00:05:57.250 --> 00:06:00.470 and so vitriolic because they lost a few hundred 00:06:00.470 --> 00:06:02.949 bucks on this guy missing a field goal or something, 00:06:02.949 --> 00:06:07.589 but Well, you know isaiah kind of falafel. Yeah, 00:06:07.589 --> 00:06:11.790 you know he is He's out by like two inches The 00:06:11.790 --> 00:06:14.029 whole time where one of his he got death threats 00:06:14.620 --> 00:06:17.300 Because they're saying you know that lead off 00:06:17.300 --> 00:06:19.439 a third. He should have been far off the bag 00:06:19.439 --> 00:06:23.180 and Yeah, I got death threats You know, that's 00:06:23.180 --> 00:06:27.420 crazy It's crazy So there they've always been 00:06:27.420 --> 00:06:31.180 hecklers and and I think it to an extent Inside 00:06:31.180 --> 00:06:33.160 the venue. Yeah, you're gonna get some emotion 00:06:33.160 --> 00:06:36.560 stirred but outside online I'm not into it whatsoever. 00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:41.060 And I listen to podcast the book of Joe Joe Madden 00:06:41.060 --> 00:06:44.079 and Tom Braducci And I was really pleased that 00:06:44.079 --> 00:06:47.800 Joe Madden, the former Cubs manager, he denounces 00:06:47.800 --> 00:06:52.259 gambling and the platforms. Yeah. Some of it 00:06:52.259 --> 00:06:54.160 is just, you know, back in the day, if you wanted 00:06:54.160 --> 00:06:56.180 to gamble, you know, you had to go down to the 00:06:56.180 --> 00:07:00.459 track. You had to go to the casino. You couldn't 00:07:00.459 --> 00:07:04.000 just sit there on your couch as a 22 year old 00:07:04.000 --> 00:07:06.500 male that's knocking back a few drinks. And it's 00:07:06.500 --> 00:07:09.560 just so easy to just tap and tap and just let 00:07:09.560 --> 00:07:12.699 me, let me deposit. 60 more. Oh shoot. I just 00:07:12.699 --> 00:07:15.459 lost that prop bet. Let me make another 20. You 00:07:15.459 --> 00:07:17.699 know, it's not the game scores that's killing 00:07:17.699 --> 00:07:21.160 people. It's the prop bets. Yeah. You can bet 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:22.639 on the first pitch is going to be a strike or 00:07:22.639 --> 00:07:25.000 a ball. Right. You can bet on the first three 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:27.699 throw. Well, that opens up a player because who's 00:07:27.699 --> 00:07:31.879 going to know? It was a pitcher and he was supposed 00:07:31.879 --> 00:07:34.740 to throw a ball the first one and people bet 00:07:34.740 --> 00:07:37.620 on whether or not he. So it's a prop bet. It's 00:07:37.620 --> 00:07:41.560 really it's unfortunate. People get into trouble 00:07:41.560 --> 00:07:42.939 with the gambling. It's like I said about the 00:07:42.939 --> 00:07:45.660 smoking and drinking. You don't start You don't 00:07:45.660 --> 00:07:49.819 got to stop. Yeah And it affects everyone else 00:07:49.819 --> 00:07:53.399 and I know someone and they lost the family home 00:07:53.399 --> 00:07:59.540 because of that so and if I'm being a Self -righteous 00:07:59.540 --> 00:08:01.019 Christian or whatever then I'm gonna have to 00:08:01.019 --> 00:08:05.399 live with that. That's just how I I see it and 00:08:05.399 --> 00:08:08.959 I was raised up in a family where my and I go 00:08:08.959 --> 00:08:12.550 to my friends fathers' funerals. And their life 00:08:12.550 --> 00:08:15.350 stories are all the same. Born on a farm, went 00:08:15.350 --> 00:08:16.949 through the Depression, joined the army to get 00:08:16.949 --> 00:08:19.629 four squares or three squares, left the army, 00:08:19.709 --> 00:08:21.829 got a trade, and spent their whole lives dedicated 00:08:21.829 --> 00:08:24.850 to their families. But they're all the same. 00:08:25.689 --> 00:08:28.110 That was that generation. Of course, they didn't 00:08:28.110 --> 00:08:33.070 have this little fella either. Right. Saw a picture. 00:08:34.169 --> 00:08:36.289 All the kids are sitting around the kitchen table. 00:08:36.330 --> 00:08:38.750 They're playing on their phones. Access we are 00:08:38.750 --> 00:08:43.750 truly prisoners of our own device And I had a 00:08:43.750 --> 00:08:47.169 role like no phones at the table, yeah and no 00:08:47.169 --> 00:08:50.269 watching TV when we Know that's the time when 00:08:50.269 --> 00:08:53.370 we can get together We we had shouting matches. 00:08:53.370 --> 00:08:56.370 I'm not gonna lie, but we were together. Yes 00:08:56.370 --> 00:09:01.110 No Okay, and kids especially anybody listening 00:09:01.110 --> 00:09:03.690 if you have young children, which mine aren't 00:09:03.690 --> 00:09:06.679 teenagers yet And I've been forewarned what to 00:09:06.679 --> 00:09:10.820 expect and all that. But if you got a four year, 00:09:10.940 --> 00:09:14.080 especially a three year old, four, five, six 00:09:14.080 --> 00:09:17.740 years old, they want nothing more than your undivided 00:09:17.740 --> 00:09:20.519 attention. Yes, they want to play. You can leave 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:23.240 them alone for a little bit. They'll go out and 00:09:23.240 --> 00:09:28.220 or they'll occupy themselves. But policy in my 00:09:28.220 --> 00:09:31.299 house with me is if I have to do something on 00:09:31.299 --> 00:09:34.750 my device, that's optional, it's not work related. 00:09:34.950 --> 00:09:38.090 I just, I'm checking scores or I'm scrolling 00:09:38.090 --> 00:09:41.250 on something and I can tell in my peripheral 00:09:41.250 --> 00:09:44.570 vision that my daughter is coming around the 00:09:44.570 --> 00:09:46.529 corner. I can hear her a little, the pitter patter, 00:09:47.409 --> 00:09:49.889 a little feet walking down the hallway and she's 00:09:49.889 --> 00:09:54.009 coming in my direction. That phone is down before 00:09:54.009 --> 00:09:56.809 she even gets to me, before she makes eye contact. 00:09:57.169 --> 00:10:00.870 At all costs, I do not let my small children 00:10:02.250 --> 00:10:05.509 Stand in front of me without me making eye contact 00:10:05.509 --> 00:10:09.610 with them. It drives me. I hate to tell people 00:10:09.610 --> 00:10:12.690 what to do, but when I see people in public at 00:10:12.690 --> 00:10:15.850 playgrounds and their child is looking at them 00:10:15.850 --> 00:10:18.450 and they cannot break their eyes from their phones, 00:10:19.169 --> 00:10:22.429 it's rough. I just, I can't sign off on that. 00:10:22.710 --> 00:10:24.909 The guy in the stands is swearing at the players. 00:10:26.110 --> 00:10:29.590 His four year old is sitting next to him. I mean 00:10:29.590 --> 00:10:35.759 that. they don't think you're the example well 00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:38.580 if you take anything away from this this interview 00:10:38.580 --> 00:10:40.500 it's you're not the only person in the world 00:10:40.500 --> 00:10:43.460 you're not the only person in the world and you 00:10:43.460 --> 00:10:45.700 gotta kind of catch on to that now how old is 00:10:45.700 --> 00:10:49.139 your oldest he's he turned eight in november 00:10:49.139 --> 00:10:53.460 i want you to know when he turns 13 you're going 00:10:53.460 --> 00:10:56.320 to get really stupid and then when he gets 20 00:10:56.320 --> 00:11:01.649 you're going to smarten up again I guarantee 00:11:01.649 --> 00:11:04.190 you and the other thing and the only advice I 00:11:04.190 --> 00:11:07.909 gave my stepdaughter she bring home a boy How 00:11:07.909 --> 00:11:11.049 does he treat his mother? Yep, that's that's 00:11:11.049 --> 00:11:13.330 how he's gonna treat you and watch your dad treats 00:11:13.330 --> 00:11:15.850 his mother cuz that's where he learned and It 00:11:15.850 --> 00:11:19.429 stood her in good stead, you know But yeah, I 00:11:19.429 --> 00:11:24.529 raised a teenage girl and it's a it's fun Tell 00:11:24.529 --> 00:11:26.370 you what she's got her doctorate in immunobiology 00:11:26.370 --> 00:11:28.190 right now, so I guess just did something right 00:11:28.190 --> 00:11:30.940 you did something, right? Absolutely Well, she's 00:11:30.940 --> 00:11:33.519 making great last I heard she was working at 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:36.080 a lab in Toronto making drugs for AIDS patients 00:11:36.080 --> 00:11:40.259 so For all my flaws as a father. I did something 00:11:40.259 --> 00:11:44.559 right Well, Dan, I haven't said it before on 00:11:44.559 --> 00:11:46.899 the show but god bless you for thank you very 00:11:46.899 --> 00:11:50.320 much making your life mission what it is and 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:54.100 You've talked in the past or on a previous episode 00:11:54.100 --> 00:11:58.820 about Of course 1989 and 2000 and people people 00:11:58.820 --> 00:12:00.659 can imagine when you have a heart transplant 00:12:00.659 --> 00:12:03.980 or you have a second one The medications that 00:12:03.980 --> 00:12:06.179 just the average person of a certain age has 00:12:06.179 --> 00:12:09.519 to take every day You can only imagine what's 00:12:09.519 --> 00:12:12.919 on Dan's plate Just the hoops that you have to 00:12:12.919 --> 00:12:16.539 jump through in general. Okay? Same to with transplant 00:12:16.539 --> 00:12:19.100 especially hearts. We all go through depression. 00:12:19.899 --> 00:12:24.019 I went through it. I got it I talked about this 00:12:24.019 --> 00:12:25.700 in a newspaper article. I got addicted to one 00:12:25.700 --> 00:12:27.980 of my drugs. And I didn't know I was addicted 00:12:27.980 --> 00:12:30.379 until I missed a dose. And then it went through 00:12:30.379 --> 00:12:34.639 the withdrawal. And I went to the hospital and 00:12:34.639 --> 00:12:37.320 I said, I worked too hard to get this far to 00:12:37.320 --> 00:12:40.519 screw it up over a drug addiction. Let's deal 00:12:40.519 --> 00:12:44.240 with this while we can. But I know how much I 00:12:44.240 --> 00:12:48.059 put into keeping me alive. I'm 70 now. I know 00:12:48.059 --> 00:12:51.799 full well what other people have put into keeping 00:12:51.799 --> 00:12:54.960 me alive. And I realize that and I appreciate 00:12:54.960 --> 00:12:57.879 it and I kind of it's kind of hokey, but I live 00:12:57.879 --> 00:13:02.080 for them too and Whenever I I want to get lazy 00:13:02.080 --> 00:13:04.159 I say the person who might have got this heart 00:13:04.159 --> 00:13:05.919 that I didn't get it somebody else got it They 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:08.419 might take care of it better than me That's a 00:13:08.419 --> 00:13:10.659 bit of a motivation for me, too. You know the 00:13:10.659 --> 00:13:14.460 person who could have got it and didn't so Anyway 00:13:14.460 --> 00:13:17.879 great talking to you today You too, Dan. I wish 00:13:17.879 --> 00:13:22.610 we could um And we will get together in the flesh 00:13:22.610 --> 00:13:28.330 and I get to visit your digs. I live in a bachelor 00:13:28.330 --> 00:13:31.529 apartment. The thing about when you can't get 00:13:31.529 --> 00:13:33.149 around is why your apartment starts to get really 00:13:33.149 --> 00:13:37.470 shabby really fast. We call it the motel syndrome. 00:13:38.710 --> 00:13:40.850 You walk into the motel, your shirt goes here 00:13:40.850 --> 00:13:42.669 and your pants go here and your shoes go here. 00:13:45.509 --> 00:13:48.610 But I keep coming over all where they may the 00:13:48.610 --> 00:13:50.610 pieces follow it and we will work on getting 00:13:50.610 --> 00:13:53.669 Natty and Brandon to do a show together. Yes 00:13:53.669 --> 00:13:56.990 Brandon's an interesting person Anyway, well, 00:13:56.990 --> 00:14:00.710 that's your family. Yeah, let's um Are you prepared 00:14:00.710 --> 00:14:04.909 to make a Super Bowl champion prediction? well, 00:14:05.590 --> 00:14:07.149 I want to say the Bears because I wanted to beat 00:14:07.149 --> 00:14:10.909 the Packers, but I Think and it was just a one 00:14:10.909 --> 00:14:12.830 game Seattle against San Francisco said it looked 00:14:12.830 --> 00:14:15.960 really good. Yeah, they did They look like a 00:14:15.960 --> 00:14:18.019 very well -rounded team. There is something to 00:14:18.019 --> 00:14:20.700 be said for experience. I think the Bills will 00:14:20.700 --> 00:14:22.240 probably beat the Jags this weekend just because 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:25.379 of the experience, to be honest with you. And 00:14:25.379 --> 00:14:27.059 Houston's probably going to beat Pittsburgh because 00:14:27.059 --> 00:14:32.179 they're just a better team. Dan, as a Baltimore 00:14:32.179 --> 00:14:35.620 fan, yeah, losses really, they affect fans in 00:14:35.620 --> 00:14:37.539 different ways. I had to take a step back and 00:14:37.539 --> 00:14:40.000 think, okay, well, that was really tough. Anytime 00:14:40.000 --> 00:14:43.340 you miss a field goal, it's brutal. But I thought 00:14:43.639 --> 00:14:46.720 It's not a playoff game. We got ourselves in 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:49.159 fortunately into a position where we can win 00:14:49.159 --> 00:14:51.440 and you're in illusion, you go home and we're 00:14:51.440 --> 00:14:53.919 going home. Um, so it's a, it's a bad feeling, 00:14:54.240 --> 00:14:56.740 but the remarkable thing you're talking about 00:14:56.740 --> 00:14:58.639 a field goal that if this thing, this ball goes 00:14:58.639 --> 00:15:01.879 to the uprights. Yeah. Mike Tomlin is out of 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:04.840 a job and John Harbaugh is still the coach of 00:15:04.840 --> 00:15:10.879 the Ravens. Um, I mean, the entire trajectory 00:15:10.879 --> 00:15:14.820 of. Several multiple people's lives, I guess 00:15:14.820 --> 00:15:17.360 in the professional lives are just based on the 00:15:17.360 --> 00:15:19.379 way that Tyler loop kicks the ball I thought 00:15:19.379 --> 00:15:23.440 he was really really classy and how he Described 00:15:23.440 --> 00:15:26.179 it and what he's going and I was pleased to see 00:15:26.179 --> 00:15:29.440 at least I I'm trying to wean myself off reading 00:15:29.440 --> 00:15:33.639 a real lot of sports posts and People seem to 00:15:33.639 --> 00:15:38.440 be very supportive of Tyler loop and what I am 00:15:38.440 --> 00:15:42.429 as coaching channels in baseball and It was a 00:15:42.429 --> 00:15:45.710 championship game. They're really nervous. I 00:15:45.710 --> 00:15:48.529 said, did you ever watch the Wizard of Oz? Yeah. 00:15:48.970 --> 00:15:50.450 That scarecrow is always smart. He just needed 00:15:50.450 --> 00:15:54.289 a diploma. The lion always had courage. He just 00:15:54.289 --> 00:15:58.649 needed a medal. Yeah. The Tin Man always had 00:15:58.649 --> 00:16:00.970 empathy. All he needed was a tick, tick, tick. 00:16:01.230 --> 00:16:03.750 He said, fellas, it doesn't take a trophy to 00:16:03.750 --> 00:16:09.049 be a champion. That's correct. Doesn't take a 00:16:09.049 --> 00:16:10.950 trophy to be a champ. They always had it. They 00:16:10.950 --> 00:16:12.450 just needed the visible proof. Well, you don't 00:16:12.450 --> 00:16:17.509 need that validation I Love their life and their 00:16:17.509 --> 00:16:19.029 life's not gonna end if we all win this game 00:16:19.029 --> 00:16:23.070 Just that simple The coach on the other hand 00:16:23.070 --> 00:16:27.149 was another story They actually videotaped this 00:16:27.149 --> 00:16:28.730 game I can see my hands were clenched the whole 00:16:28.730 --> 00:16:31.970 cake So you were wound up in there, but that's 00:16:31.970 --> 00:16:34.070 that was my story This is you don't have to have 00:16:34.070 --> 00:16:36.809 a diploma to be smart. Yeah, you have to have 00:16:36.809 --> 00:16:40.620 a trophy To be a champion. I mean, who's to say 00:16:40.620 --> 00:16:42.100 Dan Marino's not a champion because he didn't 00:16:42.100 --> 00:16:45.860 win a Super Bowl. I think he did about as much 00:16:45.860 --> 00:16:48.080 as you could expect and I can't remember if it 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:50.179 was the run game or the defense on those Dolphins 00:16:50.179 --> 00:16:53.279 teams that really didn't keep them in position 00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:55.600 to be, you know, more competitive than they were. 00:16:55.919 --> 00:17:00.279 But I think Marino did about all he could. Well, 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:04.319 Bum Phillips, coach of the Oilers, he says. Don 00:17:04.319 --> 00:17:05.980 shula can take his and beat yours and he can 00:17:05.980 --> 00:17:09.500 take yours and beat his yeah Because he as you 00:17:09.500 --> 00:17:12.500 know in the 70s it was about the run zonka kicked 00:17:12.500 --> 00:17:15.019 morris You get into the 80s and now it's about 00:17:15.019 --> 00:17:17.480 to pass and he changes team around so we'll give 00:17:17.480 --> 00:17:20.660 don shula credit for that Oh, and uh, we were 00:17:20.660 --> 00:17:24.420 talking about of course indiana earlier in the 00:17:24.420 --> 00:17:28.420 conversation Man after last night. I I think 00:17:28.420 --> 00:17:31.220 the hoosiers it's gonna be a great matchup miami 00:17:31.220 --> 00:17:34.829 and indiana and Think it could go either way, 00:17:34.829 --> 00:17:37.329 but just or before last night's game. I think 00:17:37.329 --> 00:17:41.390 Indiana's just a behemoth. Yeah It's funny because 00:17:41.390 --> 00:17:45.289 they were not expected. No, I think people were 00:17:45.289 --> 00:17:49.990 snoozing on signetti and What he's out there? 00:17:50.390 --> 00:17:52.269 Actually, one player I like was Ole Miss was 00:17:52.269 --> 00:17:56.190 that quarterback? Yeah, Chambliss Chambliss. 00:17:56.190 --> 00:17:58.890 Mm -hmm. I thought he looked good Now Detroit 00:17:58.890 --> 00:18:02.500 or Detroit Michigan has Bryce Underwood Imagine 00:18:02.500 --> 00:18:05.299 Lamar Jackson, but he can't pass. Now mind you, 00:18:05.319 --> 00:18:07.039 he's 18 years old. He's got some growing to do. 00:18:07.539 --> 00:18:09.039 But he's an exciting player, but he's not a very 00:18:09.039 --> 00:18:11.700 good passer. And in Michigan, you know, having 00:18:11.700 --> 00:18:14.140 losing the coach like that, you know, because 00:18:14.140 --> 00:18:17.599 of the scandal. Yeah. I don't know how, you know, 00:18:17.640 --> 00:18:20.880 what's going to happen with that team. So, but 00:18:20.880 --> 00:18:22.559 there's a saying, you can win every game of the 00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:24.160 year if you're Michigan. You can lose every game 00:18:24.160 --> 00:18:25.740 of the year if you're Michigan, but you better 00:18:25.740 --> 00:18:29.099 beat Ohio State. Better win the big game. The 00:18:29.099 --> 00:18:32.569 big game comes on. Yeah. Same with Ohio State. 00:18:32.690 --> 00:18:34.009 You can lose every game, but you better beat 00:18:34.009 --> 00:18:38.089 Michigan. Well, Dan, I know you and I will chat 00:18:38.089 --> 00:18:40.109 during the playoffs and everything here, and 00:18:40.109 --> 00:18:42.990 this was so much fun. I hope my listeners and 00:18:42.990 --> 00:18:45.930 viewers, Dan and I have been talking for a while 00:18:45.930 --> 00:18:50.690 here, so I take no offense if you've been cleaning 00:18:50.690 --> 00:18:53.009 the house on the back end and not hanging on 00:18:53.009 --> 00:18:59.150 every word, but maybe when Dan speaks, you do 00:18:59.150 --> 00:19:01.740 a double take and you you tune back in, I feel 00:19:01.740 --> 00:19:04.900 like I have a Tennessee Dan to ramble. I'm always 00:19:04.900 --> 00:19:08.000 hanging on the edge of my seat when you drop 00:19:08.000 --> 00:19:10.420 in. Whenever I step in front of a microphone, 00:19:10.539 --> 00:19:13.200 the next few words are here. Keep it short. Give 00:19:13.200 --> 00:19:16.980 it short, Dan. Keep it short. Now, if you go 00:19:16.980 --> 00:19:20.460 to the Chatham City Council meeting, September 00:19:20.460 --> 00:19:24.859 the 8th, and I did a deputation. I did a presentation 00:19:24.859 --> 00:19:27.599 about the baseball and they're trying to put 00:19:27.599 --> 00:19:31.390 in a new field in Chatham. regulation field, 00:19:31.410 --> 00:19:32.869 but they wanted to design it just for our Challenger 00:19:32.869 --> 00:19:35.089 program. And so they had me come in and talk 00:19:35.089 --> 00:19:37.509 about Challenger baseball and what it would mean 00:19:37.509 --> 00:19:39.150 to us to have that field and what the program 00:19:39.150 --> 00:19:42.170 is about. And basically what I said was the program 00:19:42.170 --> 00:19:46.029 is about developing people and life. Because 00:19:46.029 --> 00:19:48.130 our players, we encourage them to volunteer. 00:19:49.130 --> 00:19:51.609 Because that's life. And it's another story. 00:19:52.089 --> 00:19:53.869 And if you got time to put this in, that'd be 00:19:53.869 --> 00:19:59.490 great. Every parent, I go and talk to them. Who's 00:19:59.490 --> 00:20:02.430 your son? What can I do with your daughter? What 00:20:02.430 --> 00:20:06.069 can I do last game of the year? couple shows 00:20:06.069 --> 00:20:10.910 up and I go over Hi, I'm Dan and said who are 00:20:10.910 --> 00:20:15.049 you rooting for and they said number three Number 00:20:15.049 --> 00:20:17.230 three does not know what color shirt it's on 00:20:17.230 --> 00:20:19.710 Number three does not know the intelligence level 00:20:19.710 --> 00:20:22.250 the skill level the language the color the culture 00:20:22.250 --> 00:20:27.910 of the person wearing it The kicker is Number 00:20:27.910 --> 00:20:31.549 three that night was a finalist for the top athlete 00:20:31.549 --> 00:20:34.230 scholar in Chatham. The captain of every team 00:20:34.230 --> 00:20:35.890 she's on, she's not a basketball scholar, one 00:20:35.890 --> 00:20:38.690 of our volunteers. But in her parents' mind, 00:20:39.170 --> 00:20:40.950 she's just number three, same as everybody else 00:20:40.950 --> 00:20:44.029 out in that field. And when they said that, they 00:20:44.029 --> 00:20:46.970 said, they get this program. They get this program. 00:20:47.769 --> 00:20:50.769 Our volunteers wear the same shirts. They don't 00:20:50.769 --> 00:20:53.509 have volunteer on the back, because they don't 00:20:53.509 --> 00:20:56.450 want it. And that way they can build a relationship. 00:20:56.860 --> 00:20:58.660 with the players. But when they said number three, 00:20:58.740 --> 00:21:01.839 I thought, they get this program. They get this 00:21:01.839 --> 00:21:05.940 program. Nobody's there for the spotlight. Yeah. 00:21:06.799 --> 00:21:08.420 Well, that's why we became a big family because 00:21:08.420 --> 00:21:12.039 the families, our volunteers, our players, they're 00:21:12.039 --> 00:21:14.559 all treated the same. They're all treated the 00:21:14.559 --> 00:21:17.299 same. But that's one of my favorite little anecdotes 00:21:17.299 --> 00:21:19.960 from the baseball is them saying, and they should 00:21:19.960 --> 00:21:21.420 have so much to be proud of with their daughter, 00:21:21.680 --> 00:21:22.920 to be honest with you, and she's just number 00:21:22.920 --> 00:21:27.299 three. Dan, I wrote this down. I was thumbing 00:21:27.299 --> 00:21:31.319 through my files. I keep a lot of notes on every 00:21:31.319 --> 00:21:36.420 episode, research and things like that. And I 00:21:36.420 --> 00:21:39.819 have a one, two, three of, I think this is as 00:21:39.819 --> 00:21:42.039 it relates to challenger baseball, number one, 00:21:42.119 --> 00:21:46.400 have fun. Number two, make friends. And three, 00:21:46.519 --> 00:21:48.980 show good sportsmanship. Was that something you 00:21:48.980 --> 00:21:50.500 said, or is that, I may have just pulled that 00:21:50.500 --> 00:21:54.099 out of? Well, I would have, making friends in 00:21:54.099 --> 00:21:58.039 sportsmanship is personal growth. It's just about 00:21:58.039 --> 00:22:02.000 personal growth. We had players, we couldn't 00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:03.519 get them out of the dugout when they first started. 00:22:04.799 --> 00:22:06.579 And I want to tell you, if you're socially awkward, 00:22:06.980 --> 00:22:10.059 dugout is not a good place to be. And they had 00:22:10.059 --> 00:22:11.640 to adjust to being around other people because 00:22:11.640 --> 00:22:15.059 they weren't used to it. And by week three, you 00:22:15.059 --> 00:22:17.819 can't shut them up. They dance around the field. 00:22:18.140 --> 00:22:20.599 I don't care. As long as they're enjoying themselves, 00:22:20.599 --> 00:22:23.980 I don't care. the worker in the group home said, 00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:25.339 every Thursday night, as soon as they get home 00:22:25.339 --> 00:22:29.740 from work, on goes the shirt. It was nice to 00:22:29.740 --> 00:22:32.359 provide it. And I've been thinking a lot about 00:22:32.359 --> 00:22:35.980 how we've asked organizations and businesses 00:22:35.980 --> 00:22:40.779 now to change their mandate. And you got the 00:22:40.779 --> 00:22:44.640 poster for soccer. I sent a copy to Minor Girl 00:22:44.640 --> 00:22:46.920 Softball and Minor Baseball. Could you promote 00:22:46.920 --> 00:22:49.180 this for us? And they said, yes. That doesn't 00:22:49.180 --> 00:22:51.819 always happen. That doesn't always happen between 00:22:51.819 --> 00:22:54.700 little league organizations So for me, it was 00:22:54.700 --> 00:22:56.339 very gratifying to have to come back and say 00:22:56.339 --> 00:22:59.400 yeah, we'll support this You've made you've made 00:22:59.400 --> 00:23:01.720 one heck of a difference in that community. I 00:23:01.720 --> 00:23:04.900 hope I try By the way, if you want to feed your 00:23:04.900 --> 00:23:11.460 ego go into chat GPT and put your name in I Wonder 00:23:11.460 --> 00:23:13.720 what they had to say. I did that. I put my name 00:23:13.720 --> 00:23:15.720 in it all comes all flattering. I go like you 00:23:15.720 --> 00:23:23.359 like this Dan anything else that you'd like to 00:23:23.359 --> 00:23:26.880 plug we covered a lot. Yeah, you know you get 00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:31.559 to edit this so falls in your court and uh I'm 00:23:31.559 --> 00:23:33.859 always happy to shine the light on Chatham. I 00:23:33.859 --> 00:23:35.680 think it just from what I've read and seen from 00:23:35.680 --> 00:23:40.319 afar. It's a wonderful community Yeah, and we're 00:23:40.319 --> 00:23:43.180 we're like any other mid -size or smaller city. 00:23:43.180 --> 00:23:47.680 We have our pluses and we have our Our downside 00:23:47.680 --> 00:23:50.279 and that's just life. We're the same as any other 00:23:50.279 --> 00:23:52.980 We have been accused of being too kind to the 00:23:52.980 --> 00:23:58.720 homeless You're What's the word enabling enabling 00:23:58.720 --> 00:24:03.299 I enable them to see tomorrow I Can well with 00:24:03.299 --> 00:24:07.119 that and Dan, I mean I would think that people 00:24:07.119 --> 00:24:09.900 maybe have a binary way of looking at things 00:24:09.900 --> 00:24:14.359 Well, you know or certain Programs that benefit 00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:17.000 the the underprivileged well someone's gonna 00:24:17.000 --> 00:24:19.339 steal from this or someone's gonna get this checked 00:24:19.339 --> 00:24:20.759 and they're not supposed to have it because they 00:24:20.759 --> 00:24:23.640 They're gonna game the system. Well, that's gonna 00:24:23.640 --> 00:24:26.680 happen at a small percentage everywhere But in 00:24:26.680 --> 00:24:29.920 your case, you know, let's just say one person 00:24:29.920 --> 00:24:34.819 that you're reaching climbs out of that or to 00:24:34.819 --> 00:24:39.279 my friend and I'm gonna plug this motel and we 00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:42.000 deliver sandwiches through this colonial motel 00:24:42.370 --> 00:24:46.130 East End of Chatham, it's not great. One day 00:24:46.130 --> 00:24:47.869 the owner come out and said, I'm really impressed 00:24:47.869 --> 00:24:50.049 with you guys, what you're doing. I have a room 00:24:50.049 --> 00:24:52.910 right over there you can use. So once a month 00:24:52.910 --> 00:24:55.730 we take our portable barbecue and we have a barbecue 00:24:55.730 --> 00:24:58.750 for the people in that hotel. By doing that, 00:24:58.849 --> 00:25:01.890 they're more than just sandwiches. And we got 00:25:01.890 --> 00:25:05.150 to know them on a personal level. And it was 00:25:05.150 --> 00:25:07.289 two people were grieving the loss of a child. 00:25:07.410 --> 00:25:09.710 Well, my church has a grief program, so we were 00:25:09.710 --> 00:25:12.700 able to hook them up. But we got to know them. 00:25:13.460 --> 00:25:17.980 And my suggestion is the story in John chapter 00:25:17.980 --> 00:25:21.039 four about the woman of the well. That's the 00:25:21.039 --> 00:25:23.059 story. Because he developed a relationship with 00:25:23.059 --> 00:25:26.900 that woman, found her needs, rather than judge 00:25:26.900 --> 00:25:30.259 her for being divorced more times. And that's 00:25:30.259 --> 00:25:34.619 the key. And that's the key. What, my friend? 00:25:35.339 --> 00:25:36.960 Football's going to start in a few minutes. Oh, 00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:38.839 wow. We've carried it all the way to kickoff 00:25:38.839 --> 00:25:42.029 almost. All right. This has been terrific, Dan. 00:25:42.569 --> 00:25:45.950 Let's do it again. Yep. We'll get the girls involved. 00:25:46.529 --> 00:25:49.529 Yes. Folks, thanks for checking out the Dan Time 00:25:49.529 --> 00:25:53.910 podcast and hopefully your week ahead is much 00:25:53.910 --> 00:25:56.349 brighter and we put a bug or two in your ear 00:25:56.349 --> 00:25:59.549 about making the most of your time on earth. 00:26:00.430 --> 00:26:03.269 Sure. Thank you so much. Dan Cabalca, folks, 00:26:03.750 --> 00:26:06.460 tell a friend about the podcast and And check 00:26:06.460 --> 00:26:07.859 out everything they've got going, all the good 00:26:07.859 --> 00:26:09.440 things they have going on up there in Chatham 00:26:09.440 --> 00:26:12.180 and with Challenger. Okay. All right, my friend. 00:26:12.779 --> 00:26:13.319 Say hi to the family.