WEBVTT 00:00:05.129 --> 00:00:08.869 Well, it has been Just about a week just under 00:00:08.869 --> 00:00:12.429 a week since we heard the news since the world 00:00:12.429 --> 00:00:15.570 Broke out of their workday took a look at their 00:00:15.570 --> 00:00:18.629 stream of messages from friends or people you 00:00:18.629 --> 00:00:22.370 haven't heard from in a long time and we We all 00:00:22.370 --> 00:00:26.850 heard on Tuesday last week the 22nd of the passing 00:00:26.850 --> 00:00:31.309 of Ozzy Osbourne an icon and not just heavy metal 00:00:31.309 --> 00:00:36.369 music but in pop culture The likes of which we've 00:00:36.369 --> 00:00:41.030 never seen and may never see again This show 00:00:41.030 --> 00:00:45.950 obviously being Dan time is primarily me as You 00:00:45.950 --> 00:00:48.009 know, I probably said it way too many times for 00:00:48.009 --> 00:00:51.450 those active listeners But it's usually me and 00:00:51.450 --> 00:00:53.530 the person on the other end of the line is another 00:00:53.530 --> 00:00:56.810 Dan or we're talking about some Dan theme, but 00:00:56.810 --> 00:01:01.990 You've noticed on occasion. I Bring in extensions 00:01:01.990 --> 00:01:05.870 of either my family or something that I'm interested 00:01:05.870 --> 00:01:10.450 in. And it just felt right. I think we've all 00:01:10.450 --> 00:01:13.890 needed somebody to talk to or share memories 00:01:13.890 --> 00:01:17.290 or shoot a few text messages back and forth over 00:01:17.290 --> 00:01:19.790 the past week of and process how we're feeling. 00:01:21.129 --> 00:01:26.569 And this is first and foremost on my mind, my 00:01:26.569 --> 00:01:29.769 brother and somebody that you just might remember 00:01:29.769 --> 00:01:34.150 from a few Dan time episodes in the past. He's 00:01:34.150 --> 00:01:36.989 coming up on his third annual Halloween bonus 00:01:36.989 --> 00:01:39.950 episode, which of course he will be featured 00:01:39.950 --> 00:01:43.989 once again It's a tradition now also a July 4th 00:01:43.989 --> 00:01:49.209 bonus episode Rob's beach vacation theme and 00:01:49.209 --> 00:01:53.890 Who could forget a? rundown of the top glam metal 00:01:53.890 --> 00:01:58.890 albums from 1989 My brother and a former musician 00:01:58.890 --> 00:02:04.069 himself Front man for a death metal band, Impalement. 00:02:04.450 --> 00:02:07.069 Guitar player and someone that I've jammed with 00:02:07.069 --> 00:02:10.110 over the years. My brother Rob McArdle. Rob, 00:02:10.250 --> 00:02:13.870 how are you doing today? I am doing pretty good 00:02:13.870 --> 00:02:16.310 now that I'm off work. It was rough getting out 00:02:16.310 --> 00:02:18.349 of bed this morning, tired, but feeling good. 00:02:19.229 --> 00:02:21.669 It's more of a challenge in the summertime, especially. 00:02:21.909 --> 00:02:24.569 Seems to be. Yeah, and you know, with what I 00:02:24.569 --> 00:02:27.530 do driving the truck, yeah, the heat just really 00:02:27.530 --> 00:02:30.099 gets to you and... You're still trying to recover 00:02:30.099 --> 00:02:32.680 from the weekend. So Mondays are always tough, 00:02:33.580 --> 00:02:35.620 but Monday nights are usually, usually pretty 00:02:35.620 --> 00:02:38.240 good because you got that, you got the hard part 00:02:38.240 --> 00:02:42.900 past you. Right. Well, you just let the week 00:02:42.900 --> 00:02:45.560 go and get ready for the weekend. Well, you've 00:02:45.560 --> 00:02:47.759 always been someone who, as my older brother, 00:02:48.099 --> 00:02:50.819 who I've looked up to as someone who can roll 00:02:50.819 --> 00:02:54.879 through the punches and just deal and just process 00:02:54.879 --> 00:02:57.620 it and deal with it and do the best that you 00:02:57.620 --> 00:03:04.060 can. And, you know, this past week, I think we're 00:03:04.060 --> 00:03:06.560 so used to, Robert, wouldn't you agree that in 00:03:06.560 --> 00:03:09.819 the technology age, and if you have a bunch of 00:03:09.819 --> 00:03:11.740 alerts going off on your phone all the time, 00:03:12.139 --> 00:03:14.960 you get all of these updates, you know, someone 00:03:14.960 --> 00:03:18.039 died, someone, you hear about the conflicts around 00:03:18.039 --> 00:03:21.000 the world, the famine in parts of the world, 00:03:21.219 --> 00:03:23.740 you hear about the political stuff, you hear 00:03:23.740 --> 00:03:26.780 about all the headlines, just sports and news, 00:03:26.900 --> 00:03:29.629 and it's just, Almost I was talking to somebody 00:03:29.629 --> 00:03:34.330 today about the information overload and you 00:03:34.330 --> 00:03:39.270 just you desensitize to a lot of stuff But how 00:03:39.270 --> 00:03:44.110 did you react? When you saw Ozzy Osbourne dead 00:03:44.110 --> 00:03:49.870 at 76 I was taking a bag just in that split second, 00:03:49.870 --> 00:03:53.250 but then you know as the I guess the seconds 00:03:53.250 --> 00:03:56.270 and the minutes Rolled on it. It was like, you 00:03:56.270 --> 00:04:00.150 know what? That makes sense, you know, cuz I 00:04:00.150 --> 00:04:03.530 watched the show or what I could see on YouTube 00:04:03.530 --> 00:04:07.889 He sounded great, but he didn't look good and 00:04:07.889 --> 00:04:09.770 You know, I got the impression from watching 00:04:09.770 --> 00:04:13.669 it that his days are probably numbered and it 00:04:13.669 --> 00:04:16.430 seems to be like he knew that and I was gonna 00:04:16.430 --> 00:04:19.149 do this show and go out on high note what you 00:04:19.149 --> 00:04:23.490 did, but Still, you know Sometimes you think 00:04:23.490 --> 00:04:26.509 some people are gonna live forever And of course 00:04:26.509 --> 00:04:29.990 nobody does. So I just, you know, as the days 00:04:29.990 --> 00:04:32.930 went on, you know, I would check for updates, 00:04:33.149 --> 00:04:36.490 see other people's reactions to it. And then 00:04:36.490 --> 00:04:40.670 on the weekend, I had my own little Oz Fest and, 00:04:40.670 --> 00:04:44.389 you know, hearing a few songs and stuff, I did 00:04:44.389 --> 00:04:48.709 get a little bit, little tears in the eyes. So 00:04:48.709 --> 00:04:50.589 it was, it did hit me a little bit harder than 00:04:50.589 --> 00:04:54.350 I thought it would. Oh, it's impossible not to. 00:04:56.830 --> 00:04:59.870 Lot of these songs in the catalog. I don't know 00:04:59.870 --> 00:05:03.310 if the same is true with you, but I Haven't gone 00:05:03.310 --> 00:05:06.610 back and listened to road to nowhere. See you 00:05:06.610 --> 00:05:10.230 on the other side Of course mama. I'm coming 00:05:10.230 --> 00:05:14.050 home in some cases Robert in maybe it's been 00:05:14.050 --> 00:05:18.029 12 years. Maybe it's been 16 years maybe Maybe 00:05:18.029 --> 00:05:20.430 there was a one -off spin about eight or nine 00:05:20.430 --> 00:05:23.269 years ago or something like that But some of 00:05:23.269 --> 00:05:25.490 these songs I really haven't listened to on an 00:05:25.490 --> 00:05:29.930 emotional level in right possibly a couple decades 00:05:29.930 --> 00:05:34.029 or close to it and you're right when I've gone 00:05:34.029 --> 00:05:38.269 back and We hear about people in music passing 00:05:38.269 --> 00:05:40.970 away and you usually start thinking about if 00:05:40.970 --> 00:05:43.310 you knew their catalog Okay. Well, what was you 00:05:43.310 --> 00:05:45.850 know, I know about three or four or maybe ten 00:05:45.850 --> 00:05:48.660 songs that were Right up there and you just you 00:05:48.660 --> 00:05:52.120 go back to it you play it and you reconnect and 00:05:52.120 --> 00:05:56.439 it was Like you said for me very powerful reconnecting 00:05:56.439 --> 00:05:59.779 with some of these songs that I had quite frankly 00:05:59.779 --> 00:06:04.339 put on the shelf and It was almost comforting 00:06:04.339 --> 00:06:10.180 to hear on various platforms that You know metalhead 00:06:10.180 --> 00:06:13.339 saying or even just non metalheads, you know 00:06:13.339 --> 00:06:18.050 rock fans. I shed some tears listening to these 00:06:18.050 --> 00:06:23.230 songs. I think part of that is listening to Ozzy 00:06:23.230 --> 00:06:27.949 all week and you hear how masterful he was at 00:06:27.949 --> 00:06:49.639 conveying emotion with his vocals. Absolutely. 00:06:50.879 --> 00:06:55.000 He, very unique sounding, you know, maybe not 00:06:55.000 --> 00:06:57.680 all of his songs, you know, had a strong message, 00:06:58.199 --> 00:07:02.300 but the ones that did, my God. As you said, you 00:07:02.300 --> 00:07:06.680 know, Ozzy's music always finds its way into 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:10.600 my weekend playlist, but usually it's just a 00:07:10.600 --> 00:07:12.259 song or two and then you move on to something 00:07:12.259 --> 00:07:17.300 else. But then going back and pulling out. Mama, 00:07:17.420 --> 00:07:19.560 I'm coming home and see you on the other side 00:07:19.560 --> 00:07:23.439 this weekend You kind of forget how great and 00:07:23.439 --> 00:07:26.120 powerful those songs are Road to nowhere has 00:07:26.120 --> 00:07:28.759 always been one of my favorites and and it creeps 00:07:28.759 --> 00:07:31.860 into the weekend playlist quite a bit But then 00:07:31.860 --> 00:07:34.560 I remember that song in particular Robert Road 00:07:34.560 --> 00:07:37.879 to nowhere going back into the deeper catalog 00:07:37.879 --> 00:07:40.360 And be like, oh man, I forgot about this one 00:07:40.360 --> 00:07:45.550 It's it's it's a loss Yeah road to nowhere Remember 00:07:45.550 --> 00:07:48.810 you and I particularly have some intertwined 00:07:48.810 --> 00:07:51.189 memories where we were we were there at the same 00:07:51.189 --> 00:07:54.290 time on the same Friday night in front of the 00:07:54.290 --> 00:08:00.189 stereo Blasting songs like of course, I don't 00:08:00.189 --> 00:08:05.709 know crazy train No more tears desire and road 00:08:05.709 --> 00:08:08.329 to nowhere was one. I remember you and I would 00:08:08.329 --> 00:08:10.490 connect on it'd be playing and we'd be making 00:08:10.490 --> 00:08:13.639 the The brotherly eye contact and you're getting 00:08:13.639 --> 00:08:16.019 into the song i'm getting getting into the song 00:08:16.019 --> 00:08:19.180 we would occasionally Maybe a little bit of a 00:08:19.180 --> 00:08:20.779 little bit of booze involved. We would do the 00:08:20.779 --> 00:08:24.560 back -to -back air guitar Yeah, i'd mimic some 00:08:24.560 --> 00:08:28.699 of the zac guitar solos, but Yeah, you know the 00:08:28.699 --> 00:08:33.820 like lyrics to road to nowhere Desire like I 00:08:33.820 --> 00:08:36.879 was looking back on my life and all the things 00:08:36.879 --> 00:08:40.419 i've come to be I'm still searching for the answers 00:08:40.549 --> 00:08:43.350 I'm still looking for the key. Some of the lyrics 00:08:43.350 --> 00:08:46.950 are kind of straightforward kind of basic Yeah, 00:08:46.950 --> 00:08:53.789 but nobody but Ozzy could Just put that that 00:08:53.789 --> 00:08:59.169 Ozzy a pixie dust on it and make it so spectacular 00:08:59.169 --> 00:09:03.950 and so He just has that has that timeless quality 00:09:03.950 --> 00:09:07.889 to his vocals Yeah, I was um, I was watching 00:09:07.889 --> 00:09:10.440 the video for road to nowhere over the weekend 00:09:10.440 --> 00:09:14.980 and kind of remembering that time when no more 00:09:14.980 --> 00:09:18.139 tears album came out and Ozzy is planning to 00:09:18.139 --> 00:09:20.679 retire you know it's called the no more tours 00:09:20.679 --> 00:09:23.500 tour and watching the video and watching him 00:09:23.500 --> 00:09:26.379 look at video clips of him through the years 00:09:26.379 --> 00:09:29.039 and thinking at the time the guy was only like 00:09:29.039 --> 00:09:33.360 43 or 44 years old right and and i was thinking 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:36.120 at the time i was 13 yeah i was like yeah he's 00:09:36.120 --> 00:09:40.110 had a good run he's been around a long time Yeah. 00:09:41.529 --> 00:09:46.409 You know, but yeah, you got, you know, now guys, 00:09:46.610 --> 00:09:48.789 a lot of the hair metal and the metal, they're 00:09:48.789 --> 00:09:52.690 all in their sixties and a lot of them have either 00:09:52.690 --> 00:09:54.570 said they're going to retire and come back out 00:09:54.570 --> 00:09:57.090 or just didn't retire and they're still going 00:09:57.090 --> 00:10:01.169 strong. So I always thought that was kind of 00:10:01.169 --> 00:10:04.210 a little interesting to think about. Robert, 00:10:04.210 --> 00:10:05.730 going back to what you were saying about the 00:10:05.730 --> 00:10:09.320 performance at back to the beginning not even 00:10:09.320 --> 00:10:13.700 three weeks Prior to his passing and how he seemed 00:10:13.700 --> 00:10:16.139 and I agree if you watch the video watch the 00:10:16.139 --> 00:10:18.820 performances of any of those songs He's just 00:10:18.820 --> 00:10:22.539 got that Look in his eye or he's got the presence 00:10:22.539 --> 00:10:25.840 that that just conveys. I'm I'm not long for 00:10:25.840 --> 00:10:29.399 this this world you know, he seemed very very 00:10:29.399 --> 00:10:33.100 moved and It seemed like he wanted to just do 00:10:33.100 --> 00:10:35.299 the best he possibly could for that performance 00:10:35.299 --> 00:10:38.899 and save it all up for that last curtain call. 00:10:39.659 --> 00:10:43.080 Yeah, God, what a way to go out. I mean, I can't 00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:46.100 think of any better way. And I can't think of 00:10:46.100 --> 00:10:49.299 any other musician that has just gone out on 00:10:49.299 --> 00:10:54.179 top like that. Yeah, honestly, because there 00:10:54.179 --> 00:10:59.200 are a lot of a lot of artists, frontman in particular. 00:11:00.320 --> 00:11:02.220 They're seeing that and thinking, that's what 00:11:02.220 --> 00:11:06.100 I want. I was thinking about that today, that 00:11:06.250 --> 00:11:09.570 Are we going to see some manufactured version 00:11:09.570 --> 00:11:13.830 of that with some other band and front man that 00:11:13.830 --> 00:11:17.669 wants the same legendary send off? I don't think 00:11:17.669 --> 00:11:20.049 it can be done again because also you would have 00:11:20.049 --> 00:11:23.809 to kind of agree to die shortly after that as 00:11:23.809 --> 00:11:29.929 well for it to be wrapped up the same way. I 00:11:29.929 --> 00:11:33.450 can't. I just I can't imagine. I mean, I don't 00:11:33.450 --> 00:11:35.409 know that we really have any elder statesmen 00:11:35.409 --> 00:11:37.950 of of metal anymore everybody's kind of in a 00:11:37.950 --> 00:11:41.669 band you know kids have their retirement tour 00:11:41.669 --> 00:11:45.289 maybe if metallica decides to do something and 00:11:45.289 --> 00:11:48.149 actually sticks with uh retiring maybe they could 00:11:48.149 --> 00:11:51.629 have a big show like that where a bunch of bands 00:11:51.629 --> 00:11:54.210 come out and play a couple metallica songs and 00:11:54.210 --> 00:11:56.470 then play some of their own stuff and then metallica 00:11:56.470 --> 00:11:59.389 comes out and plays a set but i don't think you 00:11:59.389 --> 00:12:04.639 could do it yeah i agree um now Let's talk about 00:12:04.639 --> 00:12:08.480 something that we were agreeing on. You've got 00:12:08.480 --> 00:12:12.019 your Black Sabbath Ozzy fans and your Ozzy solo 00:12:12.019 --> 00:12:14.820 era Ozzy fans, and then you got people that kind 00:12:14.820 --> 00:12:18.980 of like a little bit of everything, or maybe 00:12:18.980 --> 00:12:21.460 some people that want to have it all. If we're 00:12:21.460 --> 00:12:23.440 being honest with ourselves, Robert, you and 00:12:23.440 --> 00:12:27.659 I are, we are squarely in that Ozzy solo era. 00:12:27.820 --> 00:12:30.419 Now we like, we can pick out the Black Sabbath 00:12:30.419 --> 00:12:34.470 era songs that we do enjoy. But when we were 00:12:34.470 --> 00:12:38.470 in our early 20s, we were blasting Blizzard of 00:12:38.470 --> 00:12:41.669 Oz, Diary of a Madman, No Rest for the Wicked, 00:12:41.889 --> 00:12:45.789 and so on and so on. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I 00:12:45.789 --> 00:12:48.970 like a lot of Ozier and Sabbath. Although to 00:12:48.970 --> 00:12:52.350 me, a lot of it is very overplayed. You know, 00:12:52.350 --> 00:12:54.549 I don't I don't listen to Iron Man and Paranoid 00:12:54.549 --> 00:12:57.090 anymore. But there's some deep tracks that are 00:12:57.090 --> 00:12:59.870 pretty good. But I am, you know, I know this 00:12:59.870 --> 00:13:02.029 might be blasphemy to some people, but I am more 00:13:02.029 --> 00:13:06.620 of a Dio. uh Sabbath guy but um yeah Ozzy solo 00:13:06.620 --> 00:13:10.700 stuff i mean i'm i'm just i'm all over that i 00:13:10.700 --> 00:13:13.320 think it's it's kind of similar to where you've 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:15.320 got people who maybe over the past decade or 00:13:15.320 --> 00:13:18.399 so or longer who've gotten back into vinyl records 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:21.100 and collecting vinyl maybe they never did maybe 00:13:21.100 --> 00:13:23.279 they used to and they're you're back into that 00:13:23.279 --> 00:13:26.679 hobby i appreciate that but i was i was a CD 00:13:26.679 --> 00:13:30.899 guy i'm not trying to be a vinyl guy i'm i'm 00:13:30.899 --> 00:13:36.059 a CD guy i'm an ozzie solo car very much so yeah 00:13:36.059 --> 00:13:41.639 i love the compact disc and the liner notes and 00:13:41.639 --> 00:13:44.919 the jewel case and the way it opens and it clicks 00:13:44.919 --> 00:13:47.779 shut and you still have that in your car i mean 00:13:47.779 --> 00:13:51.240 even riding with you you know over the last couple 00:13:51.240 --> 00:13:53.759 years when i'm down uh in your neck of the woods 00:13:53.759 --> 00:13:57.740 there's the cd let's put in a cd you know just 00:13:57.740 --> 00:14:03.559 like something's so cool about When you You pick 00:14:03.559 --> 00:14:05.360 out a CD which you don't really have to do this 00:14:05.360 --> 00:14:08.519 anymore because you can and I most the time yes 00:14:08.519 --> 00:14:10.759 I'm just listening on Spotify or Apple music, 00:14:10.759 --> 00:14:15.480 but you know to grab that copy of corrosion of 00:14:15.480 --> 00:14:19.080 conformity wise blood and it's It's the one that 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:23.759 I bought in 1999 or what? 2000 or something. 00:14:23.820 --> 00:14:26.700 It's the same jewel case. So it's kind of scratched 00:14:26.700 --> 00:14:30.139 on the outside The liner notes are crinkled where 00:14:30.139 --> 00:14:32.500 I've read them before open the whole thing up 00:14:32.500 --> 00:14:35.720 and full all of that stuff. That's the whole 00:14:35.720 --> 00:14:38.179 Part of the enjoyment. I probably over explained 00:14:38.179 --> 00:14:42.419 it. Yeah But where was I going with this? Yeah, 00:14:42.440 --> 00:14:48.480 so I agree with you and And honestly, it's not 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:52.240 Very popular to like Sharon Osborne, but you 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:54.659 have to appreciate what she was able to accomplish 00:14:54.659 --> 00:15:00.059 in prolonging Ozzy's life by no joke, probably 00:15:00.059 --> 00:15:04.679 about 40 years. That might be a conservative 00:15:04.679 --> 00:15:07.860 figure. Yeah. Well, I mean, he was, I mean, he 00:15:07.860 --> 00:15:10.700 was living in some rundown apartment and she 00:15:10.700 --> 00:15:13.000 goes in there and there's beer cans and drug 00:15:13.000 --> 00:15:15.240 paraphernalia and pizza boxes all over the place. 00:15:15.340 --> 00:15:17.200 I mean, he's going to drink himself to death. 00:15:17.240 --> 00:15:21.500 Yeah. And then convinces him to get it together, 00:15:21.759 --> 00:15:24.960 put together a band. And we've seen what what 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:28.279 happened since. Just all the great music that 00:15:28.279 --> 00:15:34.080 he's he's given us Yeah, so if not for Sharon 00:15:34.080 --> 00:15:37.639 coming into his life Maybe the last recorded 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:40.460 music Ozzy is a part of is something like technical 00:15:40.460 --> 00:15:44.580 ecstasy Probably so there's no Blizzard of Oz. 00:15:44.720 --> 00:15:47.840 There's no solo career. There's no Sabbath reunion 00:15:47.840 --> 00:15:51.679 and then black Sabbath Who knows what happens? 00:15:51.679 --> 00:15:54.970 They may not they probably just don't Maybe you 00:15:54.970 --> 00:15:58.070 know, maybe in some way they they are still heralded 00:15:58.070 --> 00:16:02.110 in this decade, you know in the 2020s in some 00:16:02.110 --> 00:16:05.789 similar fashion, but Probably not quite the same 00:16:05.789 --> 00:16:08.730 No, because I mean obviously they would have 00:16:08.730 --> 00:16:11.190 done their stuff with DO and then you know Ian 00:16:11.190 --> 00:16:13.950 Gillen and Tony Martin and then back together 00:16:13.950 --> 00:16:18.169 with DO to do dehumanizer but they probably would 00:16:18.169 --> 00:16:20.629 have you know when when grunge happened they 00:16:20.629 --> 00:16:23.860 would have fizzled out and disappeared and they'd 00:16:23.860 --> 00:16:27.820 probably end up playing the state fair. Yeah. 00:16:27.899 --> 00:16:31.919 Going forward. The critical part of all this 00:16:31.919 --> 00:16:35.600 was protecting Ozzy and preserving Ozzy. And 00:16:35.600 --> 00:16:40.120 that was accomplished when it very nearly could 00:16:40.120 --> 00:16:43.980 have all fallen apart. Yeah. And also could you 00:16:43.980 --> 00:16:47.419 imagine if, if Ozzy something happens in the 00:16:47.419 --> 00:16:49.559 early eighties, you know, he does get his solo 00:16:49.559 --> 00:16:52.909 career off the ground, but relapses or something, 00:16:53.250 --> 00:16:56.450 and then he dies back then, and just how he's 00:16:56.450 --> 00:17:01.309 perceived now versus how it all was finalized. 00:17:02.350 --> 00:17:05.789 I mean, he is, there's people well outside of 00:17:05.789 --> 00:17:10.769 our community, anywhere from respect Ozzy, admire 00:17:10.769 --> 00:17:15.029 him, maybe don't love the music, but you know, 00:17:15.130 --> 00:17:18.170 the Osborne show, I watched a little bit of it, 00:17:18.170 --> 00:17:20.920 but I think that helped to humanize him. to a 00:17:20.920 --> 00:17:24.779 degree yes it did well what would you go back 00:17:24.779 --> 00:17:28.220 robert and i remember i was thinking all the 00:17:28.220 --> 00:17:29.680 stuff that you think about when something like 00:17:29.680 --> 00:17:32.799 this goes on for the past week i remember your 00:17:32.799 --> 00:17:36.000 bedroom back when we were teenagers and the posters 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:39.740 that you had on the wall wasn't there a a poster 00:17:39.740 --> 00:17:43.200 of the osman cometh maybe like a promotional 00:17:43.200 --> 00:17:47.700 poster you had some kind of ozzie poster yes 00:17:47.700 --> 00:17:52.180 yeah it was that Remember that cross Yeah, I 00:17:52.180 --> 00:17:54.019 don't remember what happened to it. I think I 00:17:54.019 --> 00:17:57.720 also had a t -shirt of that as well. I wish I 00:17:57.720 --> 00:18:02.980 had more Ozzy posters Yeah, and then when I'm 00:18:02.980 --> 00:18:05.920 15 years old and you're 16 you've got that the 00:18:05.920 --> 00:18:09.819 first car the white Oldsmobile Yeah, and I remember 00:18:09.819 --> 00:18:13.779 a very specific CDs that were in rotation. There 00:18:13.779 --> 00:18:16.740 was the offspring there was typo negative there 00:18:16.740 --> 00:18:19.950 was Slayer there was it was actually a pretty 00:18:19.950 --> 00:18:23.569 decent variety there was the really hard stuff 00:18:23.569 --> 00:18:27.910 there was um a little bit of jackal in the mix 00:18:27.910 --> 00:18:34.130 yeah but uh but i remember osmosis probably would 00:18:34.130 --> 00:18:37.470 have been played back then that was in there 00:18:37.470 --> 00:18:40.990 no more tears i remember hearing like like perry 00:18:40.990 --> 00:18:43.589 mason we're just really loving the way that album 00:18:43.589 --> 00:18:47.210 started out with perry mason It's a weird album. 00:18:47.210 --> 00:18:50.750 I like the album, but it's it's it's odd because 00:18:50.750 --> 00:18:53.289 Perry Mason was the first single I believe that 00:18:53.289 --> 00:18:56.309 was released. I think this is great. It's gonna 00:18:56.309 --> 00:18:59.690 be heavy. Yeah And then you play the album and 00:18:59.690 --> 00:19:02.089 it's a lot of balance on it and they're good 00:19:02.089 --> 00:19:05.910 balance But really Perry Mason and my Jekyll 00:19:05.910 --> 00:19:10.190 doesn't hide. I mean are the two Rockers on that 00:19:10.190 --> 00:19:12.130 album. Everything else is kind of a balader or 00:19:12.130 --> 00:19:15.190 mid -tempo But it's good. It's a good album nonetheless, 00:19:15.309 --> 00:19:18.170 and it's one that I've I listen to a good bit 00:19:18.170 --> 00:19:22.089 When you come back to something like old LA tonight 00:19:22.089 --> 00:19:25.710 Give me your thoughts on that one. I Love that 00:19:25.710 --> 00:19:28.829 song. I don't know what it is. I mean it it comes 00:19:28.829 --> 00:19:32.990 out in 95 on osmosis but I mean it sounds like 00:19:32.990 --> 00:19:36.890 it could be an 80s song and It's I love the piano 00:19:36.890 --> 00:19:42.329 with I Love his his vocals Zach solo in that 00:19:42.329 --> 00:19:45.250 song. I was just incredibly it's one of the best 00:19:45.250 --> 00:19:47.910 balance I think that he's got in his catalog 00:19:47.910 --> 00:19:50.809 and one of one of my all -time favorite Ozzy 00:19:50.809 --> 00:19:55.130 songs that I have over the last year have revisited 00:19:55.130 --> 00:19:57.410 and it's it's made the weekend playlist quite 00:19:57.410 --> 00:20:02.970 a bit. Oh Just an incredible buildup. Oh Yeah, 00:20:03.569 --> 00:20:06.509 again the lyrics, you know just look into the 00:20:06.509 --> 00:20:09.940 future Look into my eyes and tell me everything's 00:20:09.940 --> 00:20:12.819 alright Tell me where we're going I'm so afraid 00:20:12.819 --> 00:20:15.480 cause I don't know what's going on with my life 00:20:15.480 --> 00:20:22.460 Tell me where we're going I'm so afraid cause 00:20:22.460 --> 00:20:53.759 I don't know what's going on with my life Yeah, 00:20:53.900 --> 00:20:55.559 just try to imagine another front man putting 00:20:55.559 --> 00:21:00.099 a spin on that Versus what Ozzy did and he just 00:21:00.099 --> 00:21:03.539 he knows how to build up to that the the chorus, 00:21:03.539 --> 00:21:07.220 you know those summer nights When I look in your 00:21:07.220 --> 00:21:10.819 eyes, I'm falling to pieces out of my mind and 00:21:10.819 --> 00:21:45.329 I'll never know why I'm falling to pieces Would 00:21:45.329 --> 00:21:48.589 love to have been in the studio when he's Ozzy 00:21:48.589 --> 00:21:50.690 and the engineer and the producer kicking around 00:21:50.690 --> 00:21:54.049 Different vocal melodies and how that happened. 00:21:54.589 --> 00:21:57.670 I Don't know and also why that song was never 00:21:57.670 --> 00:22:03.630 a single. I don't be on me Yeah, I think Harry 00:22:03.630 --> 00:22:06.829 Mason see you on the other side. I just want 00:22:06.829 --> 00:22:10.509 you Were the singles that I remember hearing 00:22:10.509 --> 00:22:14.970 on on 105 not the bear before they went completely 00:22:14.970 --> 00:22:19.150 alternative rock and quit playing anything metal. 00:22:20.190 --> 00:22:23.069 But I remember hearing that. Those songs were 00:22:23.069 --> 00:22:27.569 on rotation a good bit. Now, Deezer Butler plays 00:22:27.569 --> 00:22:31.630 bass on this album. Yes. What do you think? Like 00:22:31.630 --> 00:22:34.109 you said, you've added it to the weekend playlist 00:22:34.109 --> 00:22:36.430 again. But Robert, when you hear that, or I'm 00:22:36.430 --> 00:22:38.910 sorry, this is See You On The Other Side, which 00:22:38.910 --> 00:22:41.890 I've probably listened to 18 times in the past 00:22:41.890 --> 00:22:50.170 five days. But when you hear that... Yeah, I 00:22:50.170 --> 00:22:56.569 mean, it's great. And that song has a whole new 00:22:56.569 --> 00:23:00.769 meaning now. He played on several IgE albums 00:23:00.769 --> 00:23:03.369 if I remember. I think he might have played on 00:23:03.369 --> 00:23:08.630 one in ages. I could be wrong. And Dean Castronovo 00:23:08.630 --> 00:23:13.930 on drums in the studio. For osmosis? For osmosis. 00:23:14.410 --> 00:23:17.250 He was a member of Bad English, Hardline, and 00:23:17.250 --> 00:23:21.190 Journey. Wow. Okay, so he is a Journey member. 00:23:21.710 --> 00:23:26.789 Yeah. Yeah. That's an interesting group of musicians 00:23:26.789 --> 00:23:29.789 and kind of interesting how somebody like Ozzy 00:23:29.789 --> 00:23:32.869 will pick somebody like that. But, you know, 00:23:33.269 --> 00:23:34.710 if you know how to play the songs, then you're 00:23:34.710 --> 00:23:38.230 a musician and it's Ozzy's bad. You know, he's, 00:23:38.289 --> 00:23:39.849 he's the one that's getting all the attention. 00:23:39.869 --> 00:23:42.130 So I guess it doesn't really matter where the 00:23:42.130 --> 00:23:44.950 guitar player, the drummer or whatever come from 00:23:44.950 --> 00:23:48.769 as long as they could do the songs. Do you remember, 00:23:48.769 --> 00:23:52.369 this is pretty far into the episode to ask you 00:23:52.369 --> 00:23:55.329 when you got into Ozzy. Do you remember what 00:23:55.329 --> 00:23:58.150 year it was or was it just like the same day 00:23:58.150 --> 00:23:59.890 that you picked up a metal edge and you also 00:23:59.890 --> 00:24:04.190 got into another band or two? Yeah, it's, um, 00:24:04.269 --> 00:24:07.829 gosh, that is a good question. Because I really 00:24:07.829 --> 00:24:11.710 don't have memories that go prior to the No More 00:24:11.710 --> 00:24:14.049 Tears album. I remember you coming back home 00:24:14.049 --> 00:24:18.369 with the long box CD for No More Tears in that 00:24:18.369 --> 00:24:22.930 1991, that magical spring and summer and early 00:24:22.930 --> 00:24:27.769 fall before Nevermind hit. Yeah, I know. I guess, 00:24:27.769 --> 00:24:30.730 you know, I guess I kind of gradually came into 00:24:30.730 --> 00:24:35.029 Ozzy because, you know, he wasn't the first Artists 00:24:35.029 --> 00:24:37.529 that I started listening to I mean I was listening 00:24:37.529 --> 00:24:42.049 to Motley Crue and poison Talaka before Ozzy, 00:24:42.049 --> 00:24:45.609 but I do remember seeing when I was real young 00:24:45.609 --> 00:24:49.369 MTV I believe they were playing Something off 00:24:49.369 --> 00:24:51.329 of what is the video? What is it might be bark 00:24:51.329 --> 00:24:53.789 at the moon? I always thought it was Gary the 00:24:53.789 --> 00:24:58.230 madman But he's in he's in like some kind of 00:24:58.230 --> 00:25:01.069 old -time laboratory And I think it was the first 00:25:01.069 --> 00:25:02.789 Ozzy song I ever heard I might have been bark 00:25:02.789 --> 00:25:06.779 at the moon Yeah. And then after that, it was, 00:25:06.779 --> 00:25:09.420 it was no more tears. But then I started going 00:25:09.420 --> 00:25:11.700 back into his back catalog. I was like, Oh my 00:25:11.700 --> 00:25:16.440 God, why did I not hear this stuff before? And 00:25:16.440 --> 00:25:19.039 I think maybe when I was a little kid, I was 00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:21.940 kind of scared of him just because of the, the, 00:25:21.940 --> 00:25:24.940 the reputation that he had. But yeah, going back. 00:25:25.500 --> 00:25:27.440 Yes. I guess, yeah, I was around when no more 00:25:27.440 --> 00:25:29.299 tears came out. I started listening to more of 00:25:29.299 --> 00:25:33.119 his back catalog and really get it into the The 00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:37.339 Ultimate Sin and No Rest for the Wicked. I love 00:25:37.339 --> 00:25:40.700 The Ultimate Sin. I mean, that is hair metal 00:25:40.700 --> 00:25:43.519 Ozzy. If you listen to the sound of the album, 00:25:43.940 --> 00:25:47.839 watch the videos. I mean, he's got the teased 00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:52.079 up hair, the makeup. Jake E. Lee is a glam guitar 00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:55.279 player, if there ever was one, but I love that 00:25:55.279 --> 00:25:58.440 album. Shot in the Dark, when I first heard Shot 00:25:58.440 --> 00:26:01.000 in the Dark. But yeah, I still listen to that 00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:03.440 song quite a bit. I know it's one of his most 00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:06.920 well -known songs, but Shot in the Dark is still 00:26:06.920 --> 00:26:09.759 one of my favorites. I'm not tired of it. Lightning 00:26:09.759 --> 00:26:13.819 Strikes. Love that song. I love that. I love 00:26:13.819 --> 00:26:18.059 that chug -a -lug riff of the title track. Oh, 00:26:18.059 --> 00:26:22.400 yeah. Now, what about, and we'll get into, if 00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:24.859 we have time, a top 10. Maybe we'll do a rapid 00:26:24.859 --> 00:26:29.579 fire without a lot of explanation, top 10. But, 00:26:29.980 --> 00:26:33.740 um, did you get a chance to see Ozzy live? Yes. 00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:37.880 Uh, I was fortunate. We saw him, we saw him at 00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:40.640 Oak Mountain Amphitheater back on the Osmosis 00:26:40.640 --> 00:26:44.819 tour. It was Ozzy, Sepultura, and Typo Negative. 00:26:45.420 --> 00:26:48.059 I actually got to shake Peter Steele's hand, 00:26:48.059 --> 00:26:52.140 uh, before the show. We were kind of by the little 00:26:52.140 --> 00:26:54.160 chain link fence area and Peter just kind of 00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:58.180 walks out and says hello and I shook his hand. 00:26:58.710 --> 00:27:02.309 Mean that was it. But then yeah, we saw Ozzy. 00:27:02.309 --> 00:27:04.730 This was back when they had the grass Were you 00:27:04.730 --> 00:27:06.650 wearing the were you wearing the leather jacket 00:27:06.650 --> 00:27:10.430 with the shin guard boots or the combat boots? 00:27:12.950 --> 00:27:18.230 This would have been 95 maybe 96 so it may have 00:27:18.230 --> 00:27:23.390 been the combat boots Yeah, I loved both of them 00:27:23.390 --> 00:27:25.829 I think that the other boots came into play maybe 00:27:25.829 --> 00:27:32.779 in 97 Maybe it was late 96 -97. I got to see 00:27:32.779 --> 00:27:35.980 him again at Ausfest. It was in Nashville. I 00:27:35.980 --> 00:27:40.880 want to say it was around maybe 2002 -2003 because 00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:45.539 I think Judas Priest was on that bill and Dewey 00:27:45.539 --> 00:27:49.980 Borger, Slayer. It may have been 2003. I think 00:27:49.980 --> 00:27:53.599 Pantera had broken up by then. Yeah. I've never 00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:58.170 seen Pantera live. I saw Pantera on The Ozfest 00:27:58.170 --> 00:28:02.390 tour, I believe it was 2000 in Nashville and 00:28:02.390 --> 00:28:09.190 then saw them in 2001 in July of one. Yeah. And 00:28:09.190 --> 00:28:13.150 that was it. Yeah, that's that's I guess that's 00:28:13.150 --> 00:28:16.069 the regret is I never got to see see them. I 00:28:16.069 --> 00:28:18.130 know they're coming to Birmingham, but I'm not 00:28:18.130 --> 00:28:23.769 paying on 100 plus dollars a ticket to go minutes. 00:28:24.359 --> 00:28:29.039 It's not really Pantera. Yeah, this is a different 00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:34.019 whole different topic, but I Have to chime in 00:28:34.019 --> 00:28:38.960 on this Going to see Metallica going to see Pantera 00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:42.079 this version of Pantera for some of the big bands 00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:46.720 like that in 2025 and You've maybe you've maybe 00:28:46.720 --> 00:28:48.460 you've seen them before you saw them 20 years 00:28:48.460 --> 00:28:50.660 ago And you had a blast and you saw them in their 00:28:50.660 --> 00:28:56.490 prime and you spent you know $32 or maybe 50 00:28:56.490 --> 00:28:59.210 if it was part of a festival, which it was like 00:28:59.210 --> 00:29:02.430 OZFest02 was something like 55 bucks or something 00:29:02.430 --> 00:29:05.670 like that. I saw that in that text and stuff. 00:29:06.329 --> 00:29:08.309 Like fifth, wow, I mean, today it'd be, you know, 00:29:08.430 --> 00:29:12.349 200 bucks. And that's the whole day. Gates, the 00:29:12.349 --> 00:29:16.309 doors are Gates at nine 30. But Robert, it is, 00:29:16.730 --> 00:29:18.529 and you know what it's like when you go to a 00:29:18.529 --> 00:29:21.789 concert now, especially at a large venue. and 00:29:21.789 --> 00:29:25.230 you're just, you're seated around a lot of similarly 00:29:25.230 --> 00:29:29.529 aged people who we don't run around and get sweaty 00:29:29.529 --> 00:29:32.549 and drunk. We're just kind of seated with our 00:29:32.549 --> 00:29:36.329 wives and our phones. And we're just, it's not 00:29:36.329 --> 00:29:39.609 really like the same atmosphere, but not to say 00:29:39.609 --> 00:29:42.789 it's not worth it to people that can budget for 00:29:42.789 --> 00:29:47.849 this, but I don't know. I'm still drawn to vinyl 00:29:47.849 --> 00:29:50.269 music hall, going to see a band where I can stand 00:29:50.269 --> 00:29:55.160 up on the floor of a kind of a small venue. Right. 00:29:55.299 --> 00:29:58.759 And just take that in, get in, see the show, 00:29:58.759 --> 00:30:02.319 get out, go home. I just feel like it's a lot, 00:30:02.500 --> 00:30:06.240 a lot of money for something that's not what 00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:10.900 it once was. Right. And I mean, I don't really 00:30:10.900 --> 00:30:13.359 have any desire to go see, you know, an arena 00:30:13.359 --> 00:30:16.119 show anymore because I'm just, I'm going to sit 00:30:16.119 --> 00:30:18.819 there in my seat and just watch it. You know, 00:30:18.819 --> 00:30:22.089 something like back to the beginning. If if I 00:30:22.089 --> 00:30:23.549 could have made that happen could have gotten 00:30:23.549 --> 00:30:26.210 out there and gotten a ticket. I'm sure I would 00:30:26.210 --> 00:30:30.950 have had a blast Possibly I want to say that 00:30:30.950 --> 00:30:33.910 I would have liked to go under that but I'm just 00:30:33.910 --> 00:30:35.569 afraid that I would have gotten there with the 00:30:35.569 --> 00:30:39.529 gates open at 1130 and by three o 'clock I'm 00:30:39.529 --> 00:30:41.869 probably thinking All right, my feet are tired. 00:30:41.869 --> 00:30:44.609 My legs are tired. I want to sit down. I want 00:30:44.609 --> 00:30:47.410 something to eat I don't want a $30 hamburger 00:30:47.410 --> 00:30:51.220 and I'm probably like thinking I want to go home. 00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:54.460 Well part of this going to shows at 40 something 00:30:54.460 --> 00:30:58.279 years old You know, let's not kid ourselves people 00:30:58.279 --> 00:31:01.200 that do this. We're trying to reclaim two hours 00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:03.920 of our youth We're trying to remember what it 00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:07.299 was how much fun this was in 2000 or like you 00:31:07.299 --> 00:31:13.380 said the late 90s 2001 or 203 all that stuff 00:31:13.380 --> 00:31:17.740 and you just you went to those concerts in a 00:31:17.740 --> 00:31:20.539 completely different mindset. You weren't thinking 00:31:20.539 --> 00:31:24.019 about the thing that you have going on at work 00:31:24.019 --> 00:31:28.299 that's waiting for you on Monday or some leak 00:31:28.299 --> 00:31:30.500 at your house that you're waiting for the contractor 00:31:30.500 --> 00:31:32.579 to call you back, but you're gonna go try to 00:31:32.579 --> 00:31:36.359 enjoy this concert or you've got a child that's 00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:40.900 got a situation going on and you're halfway checking 00:31:40.900 --> 00:31:43.900 out of it, but you're an adult. We're just at 00:31:43.900 --> 00:31:48.470 an age where it's not... Fuck the world. I'm 00:31:48.470 --> 00:31:51.589 you know Yeah, it's gonna be two hours of heavy 00:31:51.589 --> 00:31:54.309 metal and to an extent maybe some people can 00:31:54.309 --> 00:31:58.009 really compartmentalize and I kind of do it at 00:31:58.009 --> 00:32:00.829 the little club shows that I like to go to but 00:32:00.829 --> 00:32:02.710 I mean you're kidding yourself if you're gonna 00:32:02.710 --> 00:32:06.710 spend $200 with the parking and the the booze 00:32:06.710 --> 00:32:10.869 and the food and the babysitters and I Really 00:32:10.869 --> 00:32:13.009 hate to get off on a negative end. That's my 00:32:13.009 --> 00:32:14.730 whole take. I don't I don't spend the money. 00:32:15.230 --> 00:32:17.880 Yeah I've seen what I wanted to see back when 00:32:17.880 --> 00:32:21.319 I wanted to see it. Yeah. And you also, you probably 00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:23.220 have a good idea of what the set list is going 00:32:23.220 --> 00:32:27.440 to be. We went and saw Slayer several years ago 00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:30.420 in Atlanta. It was Slayer. It was a great lineup. 00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:34.500 It was Slayer, Testament, Anthrax, May Palm Death, 00:32:34.579 --> 00:32:38.579 and I think it was Lamb of God. But I mean, one 00:32:38.579 --> 00:32:43.720 beer was like 13 bucks. I drank one beer the 00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:46.539 whole show. I was like, I could get a half a 00:32:46.539 --> 00:32:50.660 case of this for $13. Now, look, I will say this. 00:32:51.099 --> 00:32:54.259 I don't want to discourage people who are listening 00:32:54.259 --> 00:32:57.220 to this and they've been having a great time 00:32:57.220 --> 00:32:59.240 rocking out and going to shows for years and 00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:03.299 years, but it's just my experience. I had the 00:33:03.299 --> 00:33:05.519 best fun that I think I'm going to have at concerts, 00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:09.220 you know, big venue concerts when I was in my 00:33:09.220 --> 00:33:13.339 20s. And with that technology was sis. It was 00:33:13.339 --> 00:33:16.500 just completely cut off. You're not Thinking 00:33:16.500 --> 00:33:19.000 about I need to check my email in another four 00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:21.579 minutes. I need to see what's happening on Instagram 00:33:21.579 --> 00:33:25.259 I'm you know, I need that dopamine fix and and 00:33:25.259 --> 00:33:28.700 let me just so you're not really all -in You're 00:33:28.700 --> 00:33:31.460 just not no, but I think you're also I don't 00:33:31.460 --> 00:33:33.240 think you're discouraging anybody. I think we 00:33:33.240 --> 00:33:37.049 might be telling People that it's okay to not 00:33:37.049 --> 00:33:41.109 want to go to the show Yeah, don't feel like 00:33:41.109 --> 00:33:43.730 you have like you said if priestess coming you 00:33:43.730 --> 00:33:47.390 don't want to go don't fucking go right if iron 00:33:47.390 --> 00:33:50.970 maiden came I Might consider it because I was 00:33:50.970 --> 00:33:54.269 once again. I've never seen them But I probably 00:33:54.269 --> 00:33:57.230 at the last minute be like yeah No, I'm not going