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Time's over. My son Wyatt just said, time's over.

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It's Dan time. Grab a seat. It's Dan time. Yeah,

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it's Dan time. Only Dan's on the line. Only Dan's

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all the time. This is the Dan Time Podcast with

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your host, Dan McGonigal. Hey guys, pleased to

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welcome today on the Dan Time Podcast, episode

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number 103, as we approach the two -year mark.

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And I was just telling him, a lot of these guests

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that appear on the show, it's a very random coincidence,

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just somebody that comes across my peripheral.

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Or I'm doing a Google search and, you know, because

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I get asked, how did you find me? Where did you

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hear about me? Because sometimes it's an independent

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artist from across the globe. And it's just one

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of the things I've really come to love about

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this show and bringing some of these personalities

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to your ears and to your eyes on occasion. Mr.

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Danny Cole, so pleased to have you here today.

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Fellow metalhead, guitar player, and we'll get

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into a few of the other... descriptors there,

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but Danny came across my Instagram feed. I was

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just telling him about this. It was one of the

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coolest, and it's like, if you know, you know.

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Even if you don't listen to our type of music,

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it was hilarious. Go follow him, first of all.

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He's at MrMRDannyCole on social media. On Instagram,

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you'll find that one a new level. That's all

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I'm going to say. Look it up. Give him a follow.

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And so I saw it, and I said, okay, I've got to

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at least reach out to this dude. So without saying

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a whole lot more, Danny, thanks for being here

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on Dan Time. Yeah, it's my pleasure, man. It's

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nice to be here and join the other Dans of the

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world. Yeah. Yeah, this is Dan talking to fellow

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Dans, and it was just something for me to get

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it going, get a podcast going. And I thought,

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I didn't actually realize it at the time, but

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if you just put a little dash of humor into the

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theme, it usually cranks out some. some great

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guests, people that have a sense of humor themselves.

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So that's, I've really found your reels and your

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content to be just, it's just enjoyable. You

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bring the technical aspect to it with your guitar

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playing and maybe some nostalgia for people that

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love all these old songs and maybe haven't heard

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some of them played properly in a long time.

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And yeah, thanks for what you're doing out there.

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How much fun are you having with it? Actually,

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lately, I've been having a lot of fun. I kind

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of got out of it for a while. I started my Instagram

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in like 2019. And I got a little bit of a following

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in the last probably about six or so months after

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starting because I was posting so frequently,

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like almost a video every two days, which is

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what you have to do. And then I kind of got out

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of it. Since then, I kind of went stagnant. But

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the last six months or so, I've been really getting

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back into it and kind of upping my video game

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and my editing skills and really trying to do

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something different. You know, as opposed to

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just playing random covers that, you know, like

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your Guns N' Roses covers. You know, the songs

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you hear everybody else do. I want to do something

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a little bit different. So I try to dig into

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the B -sides a little bit more or just obscure

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songs. Like this last video I posted, it was,

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you know, the metal and Indian kind of hybrid

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mix. You know, I got 600 ,000 views in the last

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week. It's something different. You know, one

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guy did it. I covered that. And, yeah, it kind

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of hit pretty big. Just trying different things,

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man. I love that one because I think that view

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count, the energy that you're bringing in that

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video is partly or maybe wholly responsible for,

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again, going back to the enjoyment. People stick

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on things. They stop scrolling and they watch

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if it's like, oh, this is pretty cool. He's having

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fun. You look like you're having a great time

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doing some of these covers. Yeah, yeah. A little

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bit of his performance, but a lot of it is the

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fun, but it's just, yeah. And if you saw the

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behind the scenes on actually recording one of

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those videos, I should probably make it an edit

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of that because it'd be pretty funny. It gets

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hard, man, because I'm really picky and I have

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to perform every note perfectly. And, you know,

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even just the way I'm playing it, not necessarily

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the way it sounds, but the way it looks like

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when I'm playing it, you know, that has to be

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perfect too. So it takes me a while, man. Like

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just that video alone, I think took me a while.

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30 hours. Oh, I believe it. Yeah. So I can only

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do like one a week or so I'm working on another

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one right now, but, uh, yeah, man, I try, I try

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a lot. I used to post a lot of reels. I kind

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of archived a lot of my, my posts. I don't know.

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Cause I kind of get out of that, but I used to

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post like a lot of Pantera memes. So I know you

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found me through the new level, right? Cause

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that was kind of my, my shtick for a long time

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was posting anything Pantera related. That's

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been my all time favorite band. Like I used to

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post videos of people dancing and I would cut

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the Pantera music on top of people dancing and

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stuff like that. But my best friend had actually

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sent me that video. I know I wrote it in the

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video, right? My friend sent me this. My best

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friend sent me that. His brother sent that to

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him. And we all kind of have this similar sense

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of humor. So when he sent me that, it's like,

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dude, you got to put that online. That's going

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to go viral for sure. Sure enough, it sat on

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my phone for about a week. Screw it. I put it

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on Instagram and what do you know? It hit like.

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Pretty big. Wow. Going back to what you were

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saying about 30 hours into something, just that

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one example. Obviously, you've got to take a

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break. You've got to go take care of your personal

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business, sleep, eat, and stuff. When you're

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locked into something like that, are you excited

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to get right back to it when you've got a break

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for a few hours and you just want to get it done?

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It's all I think about, man. It consumes me.

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Right now, my next video, it's all I'm thinking

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about right now. I'm going to go to bed. editing

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everything in my head exactly how it's got to

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be and yeah learning it perfecting it yeah and

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i don't know i don't even know why i'm doing

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this to be honest it's not really i don't know

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i i'm not in a band i guess i have nothing else

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to do musically so i'm just focusing on like

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one video at a time and i don't know man i was

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in a band i have released original music too

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but right now yeah i just got these instagram

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reels and uh i haven't followed it wow well Watching

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your guitar playing, and I know you have a preference

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for ESP guitars, is that correct? Yeah, so my

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white one's actually an Epiphone, but ESP would

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be absolutely my go -to. Where did you get started

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with guitar? Were you always into the hard and

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heavy music, and then you picked up the guitar,

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or did you pick up the guitar early on? Uh, so

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the way that started is I, uh, yeah, I was pretty

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young. I was about 12 and my mom put me into

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piano lessons and I don't know. I had a hard

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time with that. It was just, you know, I didn't

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want to learn Do, Re, Mi. I wanted to learn Guds

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and Roses. I wanted to learn, you know, whatever

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was cool at the time when I was a kid, I was

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listening to, you know, Slash and Metallica and,

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you know, Megadeth and Pantera and all that stuff.

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So that's what I would go to bed thinking about

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playing, not, you know. twinkle twinkle little

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star on a piano right so after about a year of

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that i finally got an acoustic guitar and i got

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into kind of teaching myself i took lessons for

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a few months but more or less taught myself how

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to play been a long time danny what um bouncing

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around a little bit here when you get some of

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the feedback and people post comments about how

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their reaction to these videos how does that

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make you feel you're putting it all it's a labor

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of love and especially like you said you're doing

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something that you're not on a payroll This is

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just coming from your creative juices. And I

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mean, it may be a total bust. It may be, you

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know, it could be boom or bust, but you're getting

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that feedback. How does that feel? Yeah. So it

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can be good and it can be bad because you never

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know what you're going to get. So I post these

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videos on Instagram, on Facebook, on YouTube,

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on TikTok. You know, they hit, you know, the

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variety of views and likes and all that comments.

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It's different on everything. You know, Facebook

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often more often than not is kind of a bust because

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it's more or less your, your aunts and uncles

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or whatever. Right. And yeah. Yeah. Instagram's

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obviously that's where I hit the most YouTube.

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I'm struggling a little bit there. I don't know

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what I'm doing wrong. I don't know if there's

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ways to advertise it. I'm not advertising, but

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my videos don't seem to be getting the reach

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that I believe that they should. Cause I've actually

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been on YouTube for, I think 17 years, 18 years,

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like since, since 2006, I've been posting on

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there. at least, you know, a few times a year,

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but yeah, just, I'm not doing something right.

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But anyways, to answer your question, yeah, the

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comments are very, very encouraging, especially

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when you do put a lot of effort into, you know,

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something, but oftentimes you don't get nothing,

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you know, you're like, what the hell am I doing

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wrong? No, I tried so hard. I know this is cool.

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I know it sounds good. I know, but it's just,

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it's not connecting for whatever reason, or it's

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not an algorithm or whatever it is. People aren't

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seeing it. I don't know. Yeah. But I just, I

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love doing it, man. Whatever happens, happens.

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If nobody looks at it, I still have fun making

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it. And that's good enough for me. The note for

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note precision is what attracts somebody like

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me when I stop and watch something like that.

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And I watch a few of them. And then I was like,

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wow, like some of the things you take a stab

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at the weekend, save your tears. I'm a metal

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guy primarily, but I like, and I've had many

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guests on the show. Of course, independent artists.

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I like folk music. I like. any kind of just acoustic

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singer songwriter stuff a lot of types of music

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but that's a really special song i remember hearing

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that on a pandora kind of general playlist and

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and when i heard you do that i was like wow okay

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it's about time somebody put that kind of spin

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to it yeah i mean why not right music's music

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i'd like anything that's good i listen i love

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music man i listen to music minimum eight hours

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a day if i'm not when i'm working i'm at the

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gym whatever i'm always got these headphones

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in I'm always listening to music and I listen

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to everything, man. Like the song I'm doing right

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now, I'm learning it's Sinead O 'Connor, Nothing

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Compares. So I'm going to be, that's going to

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be my next video. And I got a whole thing planned

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where I'm going to, you know, black out the whole

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video. It's just going to be my guitar, my face.

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You're not going to see nothing just like her

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video. So I got it all planned out and I'm just

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working towards that. And that's it, man. That's

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all I'm thinking about. And I got the next one

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after that plan. So, yeah, I'm really going to

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be focusing on these, that style of like just,

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you know, having fun with the background and

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the effects and. Yeah. And there's a creative.

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You, you kind of bring a full package as far

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as the, the image that you're putting out there.

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You've got a lot of work you've had done. Um,

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I wrote down your tattoo artist, the, uh, the

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famous. Jim McClary. Yeah. So he, uh, did all

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of my, uh, horror sleeve here. I didn't even

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see that, but anyway, yeah, I got Michael Myers

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and Jason. So a lot of those tattoos, man. It's

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one of my things, too, is I go online on Instagram.

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I've always got tattoos on my feet, and I follow

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the artists, and I become obsessed, and I want

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to get work by them. I'm very fortunate. I got

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a lot of tattoos from a lot of very amazing artists,

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not just Jim. He is, but I got them all over

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the place, man. I needed to take a break. It

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was a lot. The great work costs a lot of money.

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So yeah, I'm taking a little bit of time off

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from tattoos, but I love it, man. I got awesome,

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awesome work and I'm very proud of all the work

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that I got. Do you have, because I don't have

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any, but I'm always curious about people who

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have tattoos. The very first one that you got,

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is it still important to you or are you more,

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the ones that are most important, are they more

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of the later era stuff? Yeah. So I had a tattoo

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a couple when I was younger. One of them I got

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lasered and actually Jim covered it up. But yeah,

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my most recent kind of, tattoos, splurge, you

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know, my midlife crisis, whatever it is, was

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this Dimebag one here. Yeah. Which, you know,

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that was, I got this 2019. Love it. Another amazing

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artist out of Montreal. And from there, that's

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kind of when they all started. Danny, I can't,

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I've been trying to pause on the Pantera talk

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for as long as I can, but as soon as you mentioned

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Dimebag, because I've been thinking about this

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as soon as we agreed to talk. I don't know how

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it is for you, and I think you have to feel the

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same way, but when that anniversary, the December

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8th, comes up every year, and even before it

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comes up, for me, Danny, it never gets any less

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painful. It sucks, man. It sucks. I don't know.

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I mean, people, John Lennon was shot unexpectedly.

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uh, some other things, tragic things have happened

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to artists, but in, in the metal community, I

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don't think anything really compares to that.

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And he was a Titan. He was our, he was a hero.

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And I just remember the text message I got, uh,

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people may be surprised in 2004. We, we didn't

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have smartphones, but we did have text messages.

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And it was my brother who sent me the message

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in the middle of the night. It was just very

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hard to believe. Um, yeah, man. Yeah. Die bag

00:13:28.610 --> 00:13:31.860
was my idol, man. Since I was 1994, I was, 12

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years old. I loved him, man. I had my, all my

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wall with just pictures of him. And I just, he

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was my idol. And when that happened, I woke up

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to a few answer me, see messages and people telling

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me the news. That's how I found out. I wish I

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saved those actually, but I still have them replaying

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in my head. I'll never forget that day, man.

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I still every day, every December 8th, man. It's

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just, what the hell, you know, even yet like

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yesterday, or sorry, was it yesterday? Black

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Sabbath. Oh, yeah, back to the beginning. So,

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you know, you're watching that, and you're watching

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Pantera, and it's like, man, Dimebag and Vinnie

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Paul should have been there. They should have

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been there. Oh, gosh. 100%. But, yeah. And, you

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know, I was thinking today on that end that this

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actually just came to me this afternoon. If we

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still had Dime or Vinnie, or if Vinnie hadn't

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passed away a few years ago, and we're going

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to run into this event, whether either Phil or

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Vinny like that or not, and we hit this moment

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in time, does that bring them on stage together?

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I think that it probably does not, but I wanted

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to get your take on this. This one -day event,

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farewell to Black Sabbath, I think if Vinny is

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still alive, we're probably going to see Down

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perform. I think Phil Anselmo is going to be

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there regardless. Do you think that that would

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have brought Phil and Vinny together for one

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day to just do it? What do you think? I don't

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know, man. Vinny Paul seemed really hell -bent

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on just kind of moving on. It's hard to say,

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man. There's a video of him being asked the question

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about the reunion. He says, if Van Halen wants

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to get shot in the head five times, what, are

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you going to just put Zach Wild in there and

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call it Van Halen? He said, you can't do it.

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So he was obviously against that. Yeah. But it's

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hard to say, man. I'd probably lean towards no.

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I don't think he would do it ever. You know,

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who knows what he had to go through, man. He

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watched his brother get killed in front of him.

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Yeah. And he had a lot of blame and animosity

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towards Phil because of that. Actually, yeah,

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I was just talking about that. About like a couple

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weeks before that happened to Dimebag, there

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was that interview. I think it was Metal and

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Kerrang or whatever it was. Kerrang, yeah. Yeah,

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where Phil. And apparently, I never read it,

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but he said, you know, Dimebag needs to be severely

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beaten. So I guess some people attributed his

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murder to that interview. And who knows? Yeah.

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Yeah. So I would say no, unfortunately. You know,

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I always kind of wanted something to happen.

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But who knows, man? That was a pretty traumatic

00:16:15.129 --> 00:16:17.549
thing to go through, I'm sure. Well, you did.

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You got to meet the guys, the current lineup

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of Pantera, a couple years ago in Montreal. Is

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that right? That was a hell of an experience.

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A story around that and injury and what happened.

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Take me through that, Dan. Yeah, so it was at

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the Olympic Stadium in Montreal. I'm coming from

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Ottawa. It's about a two and a half hour drive.

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And, you know, I think it was on a Friday or

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something. Yeah, it was on a Friday. So the traffic

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was insane. Running late. You know, the meet

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and greet was very adamant about, you know, don't

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show up late. You got to be here on time or else

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you're not getting in. And so we're running late.

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There's the traffic. So I told my girlfriend,

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I said, you've got to park my vehicle, man. I've

00:16:56.960 --> 00:17:00.960
got to bolt. So she jumped in my truck, and I

00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:02.820
got out. I started running towards the arena,

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the stadium, and just the people everywhere.

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I started running by people, and I didn't realize

00:17:08.319 --> 00:17:11.019
there was a curb. I flipped. I dislocated my

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finger here. I sprayed my ankle. I was just all

00:17:13.940 --> 00:17:15.720
boofed up, banged up, and I started crawling,

00:17:15.819 --> 00:17:17.819
man. I was just in my head. I started crawling

00:17:17.819 --> 00:17:20.599
like a zombie. I'm on the pavement. And everybody's

00:17:20.599 --> 00:17:23.119
like, how about Mac, man? What's going on, man?

00:17:23.400 --> 00:17:25.579
Holy shit, somebody help this guy. And there's

00:17:25.579 --> 00:17:27.559
just a big crowd of people around me. I'm like,

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no, man, I got to beat Pantera. I'm going to

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be late. About eight people carried me off to

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the grass. Just do something. So they ended up

00:17:35.559 --> 00:17:37.759
putting me in a wheelchair, brought me to the

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medics. I said, just put a splint on me for now.

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I got to go meet the band. I was already late

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at this point. So they had to put me on a golf

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cart after that. And then I went and met the

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band, got a quick picture. And then I went and

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they put my finger back in place after that.

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And then I went and washed the shoulder. You

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got to be in some serious pain also. It was horrible.

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Put it in the back of your mind. I couldn't really

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play guitar after that for about a year. It was

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rough, man. It's still not 100%, but it's just

00:18:10.019 --> 00:18:11.900
a cool story, I guess. Something had to happen.

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I'm going to meet Pantera after 20 years. Something

00:18:14.859 --> 00:18:17.119
had to happen. And how were the guys that day?

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Meeting Phil, Rex? uh yeah super cool man yeah

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zach was just just a ball of energy man just

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laughing with everybody making jokes and you

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know he was coming out and introducing himself

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to everyone he was super cool the rest of the

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guys were just kind of a quick you know he has

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a going fist bump yeah grab a picture you know

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but it meant a lot to me man i do like i was

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gonna say i like what charlie's doing and and

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his attention to detail i remember before the

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tour the first tour started where he said it's

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very important to me in so many words to just

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play note for note the way that Vinny played

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these songs. Basically, the studio version. He

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is, man. He's bang on. And not just that, but

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the sound that he's getting with the drums, it's

00:19:00.700 --> 00:19:03.759
identical. It sounds just like Vinny Paul. Yeah.

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Playing live, it sounds like that really big

00:19:05.940 --> 00:19:08.720
snare hit, like that's Vinny Paul's snare hit.

00:19:08.819 --> 00:19:11.319
It's weird, but yeah, they got it bang on. It's

00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:14.559
nailed. Yeah, it sounds pretty good. Now, did

00:19:14.559 --> 00:19:17.019
you get to see him back in the day before the

00:19:17.019 --> 00:19:19.859
breakup, anything like that? Yeah, I did. I did.

00:19:19.940 --> 00:19:24.559
So another story. I had a Washburn Dimebag guitar

00:19:24.559 --> 00:19:27.359
at the time. They were very hard to get, like

00:19:27.359 --> 00:19:29.539
the Dimebolt. So the blue one with the lightning,

00:19:29.619 --> 00:19:32.339
right? That was his famous guitar. I finally

00:19:32.339 --> 00:19:34.839
had it. That was my dream guitar. But I was only

00:19:34.839 --> 00:19:38.240
like 18 at the time. And my friend who had lived

00:19:38.240 --> 00:19:41.349
in Toronto. uh had a ticket for me to go see

00:19:41.349 --> 00:19:44.049
the extreme steel tour so it was slayer static

00:19:44.049 --> 00:19:48.410
x pantera yeah and um and it was in hamilton

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which is about an hour away from toronto so yeah

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we're going back to 2001 i was just young kid

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my friend had a ticket for me i had no money

00:19:56.650 --> 00:19:59.529
to go so what are you gonna do i sold the dime

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bag guitars the only thing i owned it was worth

00:20:01.589 --> 00:20:04.450
anything so i sold it to a friend i said dude

00:20:04.779 --> 00:20:06.099
I'm going to sell this to you. Just give me some

00:20:06.099 --> 00:20:08.180
money so I can go watch this show, and then I'll

00:20:08.180 --> 00:20:11.400
buy back off you one day. He gave me the money.

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I gave him the guitar, and then I hitchhiked

00:20:14.259 --> 00:20:17.660
to Toronto. I went with my friend, met up with

00:20:17.660 --> 00:20:19.920
a few other guys. We went to the show, watched

00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:22.160
it. Man, it was just the most kick -ass experience,

00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:24.299
everything I ever wanted it to be. It was incredible.

00:20:25.599 --> 00:20:27.619
My friend ended up selling the guitar. I lost

00:20:27.619 --> 00:20:33.339
my damn back guitar, man. Yeah, but I saw Pantera,

00:20:33.460 --> 00:20:35.519
man. I saw the original Pantera. And my best

00:20:35.519 --> 00:20:38.480
friend, the same guy, asked the same guy that

00:20:38.480 --> 00:20:40.680
sent me the new level video. Oh, is that right?

00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:43.640
When we were at the show, his name's Dave. I'm

00:20:43.640 --> 00:20:46.140
going to give him a shout out. Dave Roy. He found

00:20:46.140 --> 00:20:49.119
a Dimebag pick at the Pantera concert. Dimebag,

00:20:49.160 --> 00:20:50.299
when he threw out his picks at the end of the

00:20:50.299 --> 00:20:52.279
show, he got one. He shook my hand at the end

00:20:52.279 --> 00:20:54.299
of the show and gave it to me. Here you go, man.

00:20:54.359 --> 00:20:56.140
I had that pick. I wore it around my neck for

00:20:56.140 --> 00:20:58.200
about five, six years. And then I ended up breaking

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it or something. Wow, what a story. yeah man

00:21:02.079 --> 00:21:05.519
so it's always been pantera with me ever since

00:21:05.519 --> 00:21:09.799
i was a teenager like yeah yeah life man i remember

00:21:09.799 --> 00:21:12.579
when reinventing the steel came out we went we

00:21:12.579 --> 00:21:15.519
were so excited we went walk downtown sudbury

00:21:15.519 --> 00:21:17.500
which where i'm from you know we each bought

00:21:17.500 --> 00:21:19.640
a copy of the cd and we're reading the lyrics

00:21:19.640 --> 00:21:21.900
on the way back to his house we're trying to

00:21:21.900 --> 00:21:23.420
figure out how the songs were going to go and

00:21:24.140 --> 00:21:26.440
You know, your whiskey, you know, your trust

00:21:26.440 --> 00:21:28.779
is in whiskey and weed. We had no idea how the

00:21:28.779 --> 00:21:31.819
songs went. And then, I don't know, man. Yeah.

00:21:32.160 --> 00:21:34.960
As long as I can remember, I got just Pantera,

00:21:35.039 --> 00:21:37.380
man. I love that band. I actually have a goddamn

00:21:37.380 --> 00:21:39.839
electric tattooed across my back too. Oh, wow.

00:21:40.220 --> 00:21:42.900
Yeah. That was one of my earlier tattoos in 2005,

00:21:42.900 --> 00:21:45.500
right after he died. Yeah. I got that tattoo.

00:21:46.119 --> 00:21:48.099
I love that album at the time. I don't think

00:21:48.099 --> 00:21:50.180
anybody expected it to be their very last record,

00:21:50.240 --> 00:21:53.789
but in 2000. The way the music scene was changing,

00:21:53.930 --> 00:21:55.730
the metal scene was changing. It was kind of

00:21:55.730 --> 00:21:58.349
like when it dropped, it was like, thank you.

00:21:58.390 --> 00:22:01.109
Wait, I need a, I don't call it traditional heavy

00:22:01.109 --> 00:22:03.829
metal record right now. And that's what they,

00:22:03.849 --> 00:22:05.549
that's what they put. They put out a Pantera

00:22:05.549 --> 00:22:07.089
record to kind of show everyone this, how the

00:22:07.089 --> 00:22:09.809
big boys do it. We're not going to be new metal.

00:22:10.150 --> 00:22:12.109
We're going to be who we are. And, you know,

00:22:12.130 --> 00:22:13.730
it was okay. Slipknot was coming on the scene.

00:22:13.789 --> 00:22:15.430
There were some bands that were worth their salt,

00:22:15.529 --> 00:22:17.390
but it was like, I wanted something like that

00:22:17.390 --> 00:22:21.799
in rotation at the time. It was great. Yeah,

00:22:21.920 --> 00:22:23.779
I agree, man. Yeah, I love that. It's actually

00:22:23.779 --> 00:22:26.480
very underrated. Especially the new mix, too.

00:22:26.579 --> 00:22:29.460
I love the Terry Date mix. Yeah. It's great.

00:22:29.759 --> 00:22:32.799
Yeah, Death Rattle is one of my favorites there.

00:22:33.079 --> 00:22:34.720
Me too, man. I listen to that every day at the

00:22:34.720 --> 00:22:38.059
gym. Death Rattle has got my go -to, yeah. That

00:22:38.059 --> 00:22:41.960
middle part with that groove. Yeah, yeah. Just

00:22:41.960 --> 00:22:46.079
classic. Yeah, what my brother and I saw, Pantera

00:22:46.079 --> 00:22:49.299
in Dallas, 2001. It was, I guess, towards the

00:22:49.299 --> 00:22:53.190
end of that tour. And it's just, again, like

00:22:53.190 --> 00:22:55.650
you described, we're not taking a bunch of pictures.

00:22:55.710 --> 00:22:59.250
I don't have any pictures that exist. Oh, you

00:22:59.250 --> 00:23:01.009
do? We had a camera and my friend brought it.

00:23:01.190 --> 00:23:03.609
I have pictures. I'm going to be posting them

00:23:03.609 --> 00:23:05.369
in the next week or so for Rex's birthday. I

00:23:05.369 --> 00:23:06.890
was thinking about that because he started following

00:23:06.890 --> 00:23:09.289
me after that video. I was going to mention Rex

00:23:09.289 --> 00:23:12.950
Brown official page follows you. Yeah. So that

00:23:12.950 --> 00:23:14.589
kind of made my day. So, yeah, I'm going to make

00:23:14.589 --> 00:23:16.349
sure I got some pictures of Rex from that show

00:23:16.349 --> 00:23:18.460
that I'm going to share for the first time. Wow.

00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:20.059
Yeah. Another thing I was thinking about, I think

00:23:20.059 --> 00:23:21.859
you'd probably echo the same sentiment, is that

00:23:21.859 --> 00:23:25.839
just that marriage of Phil Anselmo, his lyrics,

00:23:25.900 --> 00:23:28.839
but really his vocals and Dime's guitar was like

00:23:28.839 --> 00:23:33.400
that match made in metal heaven. Yeah. That's,

00:23:33.400 --> 00:23:35.380
I mean, the whole unit is what makes Pantera

00:23:35.380 --> 00:23:38.099
special. Rex and Vinny. I love Vinny because

00:23:38.099 --> 00:23:41.980
I like to play drums casually. Oh, you? Okay.

00:23:42.079 --> 00:23:45.180
Yeah. You know, if you're driving around listening

00:23:45.180 --> 00:23:48.160
to Far Beyond Driven, I mean, I just really like

00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:50.640
the groove metal where Vinny can play anything

00:23:50.640 --> 00:23:54.279
he wants, as fast as he wants, but some bands

00:23:54.279 --> 00:23:56.680
get a little too technical. And then when you're

00:23:56.680 --> 00:23:58.720
driving around listening to them, you just can't,

00:23:58.720 --> 00:24:01.299
like Mastodon. I love Mastodon, but I can't keep

00:24:01.299 --> 00:24:03.240
up with what Brent's trying to do there. But

00:24:03.240 --> 00:24:06.019
Vinny's got all those little signature, you know,

00:24:06.079 --> 00:24:09.119
five minutes alone, the one, two, three, four

00:24:09.119 --> 00:24:11.839
on the ride cymbal or whatever. It's just all

00:24:11.839 --> 00:24:14.299
that stuff. They're just, yeah. I love it, man.

00:24:14.440 --> 00:24:16.400
To me, it's the greatest drumming that there

00:24:16.400 --> 00:24:21.140
is. Yeah. One thing I wanted to show you here.

00:24:22.599 --> 00:24:24.720
You probably watched this back in the day, but

00:24:24.720 --> 00:24:29.480
the Pantera DVD. This is the one that was packaging

00:24:29.480 --> 00:24:32.680
all three together. The three Vulgar videos.

00:24:33.420 --> 00:24:36.559
Yeah, I got that somewhere, too. Man, I couldn't

00:24:36.559 --> 00:24:39.420
in the 90s. Nobody was coming to my house without

00:24:39.420 --> 00:24:41.680
watching that. Nobody. I would watch that multiple

00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:44.099
times a day. You've got to think, right? This

00:24:44.099 --> 00:24:45.880
is before YouTube. There was nothing else that

00:24:45.880 --> 00:24:48.119
was cool. It was funny to watch. It was just

00:24:48.119 --> 00:24:51.980
exciting. It has everything in it. Yes. So, yeah.

00:24:52.200 --> 00:24:55.500
I watched it. My VHS tapes, man. My Vulgar videos

00:24:55.500 --> 00:24:59.279
and my free watch and go. I must have watched

00:24:59.279 --> 00:25:02.400
those hundreds of times each. Yeah. I would love

00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:06.109
to. I imagine you did, too. Yeah. I mean, at

00:25:06.109 --> 00:25:08.710
that age, if you're, and I was, we were partying

00:25:08.710 --> 00:25:11.950
pretty hard back then. So it was, it went hand

00:25:11.950 --> 00:25:14.490
in hand. As you get older, and maybe this is

00:25:14.490 --> 00:25:17.069
a good segue, maybe start to put some priorities,

00:25:17.269 --> 00:25:20.009
put your priorities in check and make some decisions.

00:25:20.529 --> 00:25:24.549
And I know you, on your, at least Instagram page,

00:25:24.809 --> 00:25:28.069
you mentioned that as far as guitar player, sober.

00:25:29.009 --> 00:25:31.430
Yeah. Frenchie, you got a Frenchie dog named

00:25:31.430 --> 00:25:34.819
Cheech. Yeah, man. Well, I got two, actually.

00:25:34.960 --> 00:25:37.359
Cheech and Boo. I got two Frenchies. Horror movie

00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:40.420
fan, music lover, of course, tattooed, but putting

00:25:40.420 --> 00:25:42.359
sober there, front and center. That's really

00:25:42.359 --> 00:25:44.359
important to you and the shirt you're wearing

00:25:44.359 --> 00:25:49.079
also. What's your story on that end as much as

00:25:49.079 --> 00:25:51.019
you're comfortable? Yeah, I'm way too sober.

00:25:51.140 --> 00:25:54.720
Yeah, I'm an open book, man. I don't mind talking

00:25:54.720 --> 00:25:58.940
about that. Basically, yeah. Alcoholism ran in

00:25:58.940 --> 00:26:01.720
my family. My dad's been sober probably almost

00:26:01.720 --> 00:26:06.140
30 years now, but growing up, I had an alcoholic

00:26:06.140 --> 00:26:09.599
stepfather. Alcohol was everywhere. Everybody

00:26:09.599 --> 00:26:11.720
drank. Everybody acted stupid when they drank.

00:26:11.819 --> 00:26:13.680
I grew up thinking it was cool to do that, so

00:26:13.680 --> 00:26:17.160
most of my adult life, I drank a lot too. I didn't

00:26:17.160 --> 00:26:19.619
really act stupid, but I drank too much, and

00:26:19.619 --> 00:26:21.980
I enjoyed it too much, and it just became more

00:26:21.980 --> 00:26:24.500
or less kind of a hassle for me, and I didn't.

00:26:26.109 --> 00:26:28.170
i don't know man i just didn't want to see myself

00:26:28.170 --> 00:26:30.670
in my 40s just going down you know i just yeah

00:26:30.670 --> 00:26:34.890
i kind of i reached like a like a breaking point

00:26:34.890 --> 00:26:36.529
where it's like you can either go one way or

00:26:36.529 --> 00:26:38.730
the other way and i wasn't having fun anymore

00:26:38.730 --> 00:26:41.109
the hangovers were hitting rough you know yeah

00:26:41.109 --> 00:26:43.930
and the thing is when i start drinking i'll have

00:26:43.930 --> 00:26:46.150
fun but i have a hard time shutting that switch

00:26:46.150 --> 00:26:48.490
you know i just want to keep it going and then

00:26:48.490 --> 00:26:50.250
the next day i'm going to wake up while everyone's

00:26:50.250 --> 00:26:52.829
going to work i still want to keep drinking yeah

00:26:52.829 --> 00:26:56.670
and um so It took a few tries. I finally got

00:26:56.670 --> 00:27:01.089
rid of that, man. I had to. I moved on. And my

00:27:01.089 --> 00:27:02.930
life's been nothing but better ever since. So

00:27:02.930 --> 00:27:05.609
it's been five and a half years now since I drank.

00:27:05.789 --> 00:27:07.690
I quit smoking the same day I quit drinking.

00:27:08.230 --> 00:27:11.329
I smoked all my life too, man. So I don't do

00:27:11.329 --> 00:27:15.549
anything but work out, play guitar, hang out

00:27:15.549 --> 00:27:20.029
with my dogs or whatever. I don't do much, man.

00:27:20.049 --> 00:27:22.150
My social life took a hit. Nobody wants to hang

00:27:22.150 --> 00:27:23.750
around with a sober guy anymore, unfortunately.

00:27:24.600 --> 00:27:27.299
A lot of people have issues with themselves that

00:27:27.299 --> 00:27:29.619
they won't admit. They have a hard time. I don't

00:27:29.619 --> 00:27:31.240
mind. I'll hang out with anyone, man. You can

00:27:31.240 --> 00:27:32.940
drink all you want. If you get too drunk, I'm

00:27:32.940 --> 00:27:36.079
leaving. Yeah. But we can hang out. I don't know,

00:27:36.099 --> 00:27:39.559
man. I had to quit. I got to a point where it

00:27:39.559 --> 00:27:42.680
was just not fun anymore. I was getting too old.

00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:45.180
It just didn't seem cool to go hang out at a

00:27:45.180 --> 00:27:48.240
bar, wake up hungover and not be productive.

00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:50.779
I don't know. That whole scene just sucked for

00:27:50.779 --> 00:27:53.539
me. It wasn't worth it anymore. So I had to kind

00:27:53.539 --> 00:27:56.769
of move on. it coincidentally it happened i shouldn't

00:27:56.769 --> 00:27:58.369
say coincidentally but thankfully it happened

00:27:58.369 --> 00:28:01.369
right before the pandemic so it was like february

00:28:01.369 --> 00:28:04.509
of 2020 you know had i not quit drinking when

00:28:04.509 --> 00:28:07.450
i did i don't know how i would have took to drinking

00:28:07.450 --> 00:28:09.390
at home every day during the pandemic like everyone

00:28:09.390 --> 00:28:13.250
else wow really bad for me yeah so so yeah it's

00:28:13.250 --> 00:28:16.509
really i quit at the perfect time man oh you're

00:28:16.509 --> 00:28:19.130
not kidding well i was i was about to you know

00:28:19.130 --> 00:28:23.240
i was really amazed by your story there and But

00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:26.099
when you drop that February 2020 marker, it's

00:28:26.099 --> 00:28:28.720
like, wow, what if that was April? And then you're

00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:31.079
still on lockdown for a few months. And now you're

00:28:31.079 --> 00:28:33.160
kind of settled into a habit that you haven't

00:28:33.160 --> 00:28:37.420
broken. Because the way I drank, okay, the way

00:28:37.420 --> 00:28:40.420
I drank, if I'm self -employed, I'm a painter,

00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:42.339
I paint houses, I paint commercial, residential.

00:28:43.270 --> 00:28:46.089
And when I don't have work, it affects me. I

00:28:46.089 --> 00:28:48.950
get a little bit bummed out. I'm sitting at home,

00:28:49.029 --> 00:28:50.789
and when I'm sitting at home and I'm bummed out,

00:28:50.869 --> 00:28:53.470
I have a few extra beers. I'm having beers, and

00:28:53.470 --> 00:28:55.230
all I want to do is drink beers. I get extra

00:28:55.230 --> 00:28:57.769
bummed out. It's just a cycle. It gets worse

00:28:57.769 --> 00:28:59.789
and worse. It snowballs into just this bitterness

00:28:59.789 --> 00:29:04.529
and depression. So, yeah, had I not quit when

00:29:04.529 --> 00:29:06.609
I did, I don't think it would have been good

00:29:06.609 --> 00:29:10.650
for me. And then my dog died. you know, a month

00:29:10.650 --> 00:29:13.789
after that, my dog died in March, 2020. Yeah.

00:29:13.930 --> 00:29:16.549
Which was horrible. I just, it's a miracle that

00:29:16.549 --> 00:29:18.170
I never drank after that. I don't know how I

00:29:18.170 --> 00:29:21.730
did it, but very thankful that I never did. Well,

00:29:21.769 --> 00:29:24.910
kudos. Yeah. For making that decision. It's not

00:29:24.910 --> 00:29:28.829
easy. And, um, once you get a little ways into

00:29:28.829 --> 00:29:31.109
it, you know, I'm about 18 months in, I think

00:29:31.109 --> 00:29:36.089
it was November of 20, November 23. So however

00:29:36.089 --> 00:29:39.119
long that's been. Good for you, man. And mine

00:29:39.119 --> 00:29:40.720
is a little bit more driven. I mean, I did like

00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:43.200
to come home and have a beer, have a whiskey,

00:29:43.380 --> 00:29:46.039
really just like one and one, not like five beers

00:29:46.039 --> 00:29:48.039
and two shots, but like, you know, a beer and

00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:50.140
a shot or just a beer sometimes, but every day,

00:29:50.220 --> 00:29:54.240
every single day. And I've got kids and they

00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:57.559
kind of, I didn't have enough really time to

00:29:57.559 --> 00:30:00.940
sit down and finish a drink. And that kind of

00:30:00.940 --> 00:30:03.119
got it started. Actually, I came out of, I had

00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:06.599
COVID for about a two week stretch. I didn't.

00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:08.880
feel well enough to drink. And then when I felt

00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:12.259
better, I thought, why don't we just not do this

00:30:12.259 --> 00:30:14.660
for a little while and see what happens. But

00:30:14.660 --> 00:30:16.700
I'm, I love hearing your story. I love hearing

00:30:16.700 --> 00:30:19.059
anybody's story because like you said, it can

00:30:19.059 --> 00:30:23.619
make you an outlier as far as, uh, what other

00:30:23.619 --> 00:30:28.839
people do or are doing socially. Yeah. I've personally

00:30:28.839 --> 00:30:31.299
inspired other people to have quit too, since

00:30:31.299 --> 00:30:33.720
I quit, you know, I won't mention them, but I

00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:37.180
know that other, it's inspiring, man. You see

00:30:37.180 --> 00:30:39.059
how well I'm doing. I know I'm doing well. I

00:30:39.059 --> 00:30:41.900
changed my appearance completely. You know, my

00:30:41.900 --> 00:30:43.799
whole outlook on life, everything is different

00:30:43.799 --> 00:30:45.539
about me now from what it was, you know, five,

00:30:45.660 --> 00:30:48.819
six years ago. And yeah, man, I used to look

00:30:48.819 --> 00:30:50.500
at other people too and say, I wish I could do

00:30:50.500 --> 00:30:52.579
that. You know, how do you do that? Just one

00:30:52.579 --> 00:30:54.279
thing at a time. You know, I never used to care

00:30:54.279 --> 00:30:56.799
about how I looked. Now I buy nice clothes. I

00:30:56.799 --> 00:30:58.579
can make sure I go see my barber, you know, once

00:30:58.579 --> 00:31:00.980
or twice a month. You know, I got really good

00:31:00.980 --> 00:31:03.440
tattoos. I work out every day. You know, I drink

00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:06.079
all my water. I never used to care about any

00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:08.619
of that stuff. Just where's the party? Give me

00:31:08.619 --> 00:31:10.319
a case of beer. Where's the party? That's all

00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:13.059
I ever thought about. So, yeah. I did notice

00:31:13.059 --> 00:31:15.519
like if you go back, like you said, about five

00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:18.359
years or longer and look at some of your early

00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:21.819
covers where you have long hair and you look

00:31:21.819 --> 00:31:24.019
a little bit different and it almost looks like

00:31:24.019 --> 00:31:27.440
two different guys. Yeah. I've lost 60 pounds

00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:29.599
too. So I don't think, I don't know if that's

00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:31.799
still up there, but my before and after is pretty

00:31:31.799 --> 00:31:34.559
shocking. But a lot of that is attributed to

00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:37.549
my... my alcohol abuse right you drink a lot

00:31:37.549 --> 00:31:41.990
of beer that doesn't sit well with you yeah one

00:31:41.990 --> 00:31:44.569
thing i would you agree as far as like being

00:31:44.569 --> 00:31:47.269
a creative individual like there's the clarity

00:31:47.269 --> 00:31:50.569
the day -to -day clarity you don't have a you're

00:31:50.569 --> 00:31:52.390
not trying to create something but oh man i got

00:31:52.390 --> 00:31:55.009
this headache or i just all i want to do is take

00:31:55.009 --> 00:31:58.970
a nap or all i want to do is uh or you you know

00:31:58.970 --> 00:32:02.089
your mood shifts a lot when your body is just

00:32:02.089 --> 00:32:05.450
kind of trying to recover Or it wants, it's like

00:32:05.450 --> 00:32:07.809
ready to have another drink and it's not time

00:32:07.809 --> 00:32:09.869
yet, but you're getting cranky and like all that

00:32:09.869 --> 00:32:12.829
stuff. It just goes, you just almost get rid

00:32:12.829 --> 00:32:14.769
of it. It's not like you don't have the everyday

00:32:14.769 --> 00:32:19.690
irritations that everybody does with traffic

00:32:19.690 --> 00:32:26.990
and people in big box stores. I'm in the moment,

00:32:27.069 --> 00:32:31.269
man. I'm always, yeah. always living in the moment

00:32:31.269 --> 00:32:33.069
i don't have to worry about any of that shit

00:32:33.069 --> 00:32:36.930
i feel good you know more or less you know i

00:32:36.930 --> 00:32:39.150
still have my issues i am getting older now and

00:32:39.150 --> 00:32:40.750
it's getting harder to get out of bed every day

00:32:40.750 --> 00:32:43.190
especially with two french bulldogs and pick

00:32:43.190 --> 00:32:46.009
up all the room you know it's hard to but uh

00:32:46.009 --> 00:32:50.049
yeah man well i agree it's definitely uh easier

00:32:50.049 --> 00:32:52.690
definitely easier and i think it's easier to

00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:56.039
For being creative, I think I'm just a better

00:32:56.039 --> 00:32:59.180
worker in general. My work ethic is better now

00:32:59.180 --> 00:33:01.799
that I'm kind of focusing on things more than

00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:06.119
I would, as you said, I would easily get distracted

00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:09.920
before I would go have a beer or whatever. Put

00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:13.140
it to the side. Yeah. Somebody calls and says,

00:33:13.259 --> 00:33:15.079
hey, you want to come meet me at the bar? And

00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:16.319
you're like, okay, I'll put this to the side.

00:33:16.380 --> 00:33:19.299
And then you go drink for five hours at the bar

00:33:19.299 --> 00:33:21.839
and then you come home. 100%. Half the next day

00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:23.440
you're not doing anything. And then it's the

00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:25.259
next night before you get back to what you were

00:33:25.259 --> 00:33:28.140
working on. Yeah. Stuff like that. I had a habit

00:33:28.140 --> 00:33:30.640
when I drank, I had a bad habit of kind of just

00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:33.240
crashing wherever I was, which is looking back

00:33:33.240 --> 00:33:35.799
at it now. It's so weird, man. Like I can't,

00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:38.839
like, it's like a phobia of mine to sleep at

00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:41.140
somebody's house now, but, but Forbes, wherever,

00:33:41.339 --> 00:33:45.480
give me a couch. I'm sleeping there. Right. Well,

00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:48.900
Danny, we've, as I sometimes do, I take us way

00:33:48.900 --> 00:33:50.990
off course, but I think it was a, you know, a

00:33:50.990 --> 00:33:53.750
great, I want to highlight stuff like this when,

00:33:53.809 --> 00:33:57.609
when, uh, it's important to my guest and it's

00:33:57.609 --> 00:33:59.289
something that I can relate to as well. And,

00:33:59.309 --> 00:34:01.329
and hopefully my listeners, you know, if somebody

00:34:01.329 --> 00:34:04.250
is listening to this podcast and you want to

00:34:04.250 --> 00:34:07.109
stop or, or you don't really have a huge problem,

00:34:07.210 --> 00:34:08.789
but you want to just put it on the shelf for

00:34:08.789 --> 00:34:11.869
a couple of weeks, try it out. All it was, man.

00:34:12.210 --> 00:34:14.090
Your body's going to thank you, you know, you're

00:34:14.090 --> 00:34:16.889
going to wake up and. Yeah. I mean, how much

00:34:16.889 --> 00:34:19.090
different do you feel now as opposed to 18 months

00:34:19.090 --> 00:34:22.639
ago? Right. Oh, it's night and day. Yeah. And

00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:24.440
I would tell people, if you want something the

00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:26.559
next day, if you want to just not have a drink

00:34:26.559 --> 00:34:28.000
today and you're going to feel like a million

00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:29.760
bucks tomorrow, it doesn't really work that way.

00:34:29.820 --> 00:34:32.460
But give it, say, about two weeks, maybe three

00:34:32.460 --> 00:34:34.760
weeks, where you really start to notice a difference

00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:37.960
in the energy. And if you are a creative individual

00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:39.780
and the things that you want to do and you want

00:34:39.780 --> 00:34:43.360
to plan for, would you say, Danny, like thinking

00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:46.579
about the future? I know me personally, I would

00:34:46.579 --> 00:34:49.360
like not really think much more. beyond that

00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:52.619
day or that week. Yeah. Yeah. Just day to day,

00:34:52.659 --> 00:34:54.239
man. That's what they say, right? I don't go

00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:56.780
to AA meetings. I've never been, but I hear that

00:34:56.780 --> 00:34:58.579
that's what they kind of preach, you know, one

00:34:58.579 --> 00:35:01.940
day at a time. Yeah. And yeah, I mean, it makes

00:35:01.940 --> 00:35:04.860
sense. I never got too far ahead of myself. I

00:35:04.860 --> 00:35:07.340
just kind of, it was always like, like the next

00:35:07.340 --> 00:35:10.539
new thing to experience sober, like the first

00:35:10.539 --> 00:35:12.559
wedding, the first birthday, the first Christmas,

00:35:12.619 --> 00:35:16.360
the first trip, you know, going on a, on a, on

00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:18.300
a resort for a week without drinking, you know,

00:35:18.300 --> 00:35:21.039
that, haunted me for like six months i finally

00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:22.940
got through it and then now it's everything's

00:35:22.940 --> 00:35:25.840
normal now to just not drink yeah i'm fine with

00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:29.000
it but getting through the first is tough hey

00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:30.920
you knocked out two things you know that are

00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:34.400
important for longevity really it's smoking and

00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:36.980
drinking at the same time that's that's pretty

00:35:36.980 --> 00:35:40.760
amazing yeah yeah i can't even be around a cigarette

00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:44.139
anymore i can't stand that smell yeah i could

00:35:44.139 --> 00:35:45.900
actually smell like a glass of wine from across

00:35:45.900 --> 00:35:49.739
the room now it's crazy wow Yeah, my sense of

00:35:49.739 --> 00:35:52.760
smell is really heightened. I could smell wine

00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:55.980
and cigarettes from down the street. Gross. I

00:35:55.980 --> 00:35:58.639
can't do it. No idea how I did that for so many

00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:01.400
years. Well, hey, Dandy, I want to call out,

00:36:01.420 --> 00:36:04.260
because I scratched out some notes here, and

00:36:04.260 --> 00:36:07.980
I want to bring to people's attention. This is

00:36:07.980 --> 00:36:10.139
a couple metalheads talking, and we're reminiscing

00:36:10.139 --> 00:36:13.219
about Pantera and Dime and all this stuff. Keep

00:36:13.219 --> 00:36:15.360
in mind, I want to mention some other songs that

00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:18.110
you do. pretty cool covers of One of These Nights.

00:36:18.630 --> 00:36:20.230
Oh, the Eagles. Yeah, I love the Eagles, man.

00:36:20.949 --> 00:36:23.329
Easily one of my top five bands of all time.

00:36:24.190 --> 00:36:27.130
Yeah, big Eagles fan. I was telling my wife this

00:36:27.130 --> 00:36:30.289
earlier today, Lady Gaga, always remember us

00:36:30.289 --> 00:36:33.449
this way. It's real imaginative, your interpretation

00:36:33.449 --> 00:36:36.809
of like, this would be a good place for a guitar

00:36:36.809 --> 00:36:40.570
part. Yes, I appreciate that. Thank you. So what

00:36:40.570 --> 00:36:42.329
I'm doing there is just essentially replacing

00:36:42.329 --> 00:36:45.320
the vocals with the guitar, right? But I started

00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:47.619
to have a few videos of doing that. And one of

00:36:47.619 --> 00:36:49.940
my followers reached out to me and he had asked

00:36:49.940 --> 00:36:54.760
me to send him an MP3 of what songs they were.

00:36:54.820 --> 00:36:56.400
But there was two of my songs that I posted.

00:36:56.440 --> 00:36:58.599
He wanted two of them to play at his wedding.

00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:00.739
He wants to use them at his wedding this year.

00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:02.820
And actually I got to finish the second one this

00:37:02.820 --> 00:37:06.679
week for him. But yeah, I thought that was super

00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:08.500
cool, right? Just posting a video on Instagram.

00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:10.699
Now this guy who I never met is going to be getting

00:37:10.699 --> 00:37:13.260
married to me playing guitar. It doesn't get

00:37:13.260 --> 00:37:15.599
much more rewarding than that. And I made a little

00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:18.000
bit of cash too, which is cool. But yeah, so

00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:19.300
I'm looking forward to that. And he's going to

00:37:19.300 --> 00:37:20.920
hopefully send me the video whenever that happens.

00:37:20.980 --> 00:37:23.619
I think it's in September. Yeah, super cool.

00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:27.760
How do you decide on some of these songs like

00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:30.920
that one, Always Remember Us, This Way, or Save

00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:32.719
Your Tears? You're like, okay, I'm going to go

00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:35.000
headlong into this. Because there's got to be

00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:38.699
a lot of ideas. I hear songs all the time. where

00:37:38.699 --> 00:37:40.559
if you listen to hard and heavy music, you're

00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:42.360
like, man, this would be pretty cool if somebody

00:37:42.360 --> 00:37:45.739
covered this, a metal version of this. Yeah.

00:37:46.179 --> 00:37:48.559
What it is is, like I said, I'm listening to

00:37:48.559 --> 00:37:51.360
music eight hours, 10, 12 hours a day. I'm always

00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:54.260
listening to music, all kinds of music. I listen

00:37:54.260 --> 00:37:57.619
to big 80s fan men, so a lot of times I listen

00:37:57.619 --> 00:38:01.639
to just cheesy 80s music. If it's whatever, Cyndi

00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:03.900
Lauper, ABBA, it doesn't matter. I love it all.

00:38:04.039 --> 00:38:07.539
The 70s, I listen to a lot of... Jerry Rafferty

00:38:07.539 --> 00:38:10.940
lately. I don't know, man. So I got, so every

00:38:10.940 --> 00:38:13.380
time I hear a song, I kind of make notes in my

00:38:13.380 --> 00:38:16.320
phone about, you know, okay, I can maybe do something

00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:17.920
with this. I can maybe do something with that.

00:38:17.980 --> 00:38:20.179
And most of it goes dormant. I don't do anything,

00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:22.719
but there are times like today that I'm going

00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:25.019
to be working on a Sinead O 'Connor song. And

00:38:25.019 --> 00:38:27.480
that's it, man. It's just whatever hits me. I

00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:29.440
just, I need inspiration from this specific song

00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:31.679
or if I'll hear something while I'm at work,

00:38:31.860 --> 00:38:33.559
you know, it's okay. Tonight, that's the one

00:38:33.559 --> 00:38:35.929
I'm going to be focusing on. This one is. The

00:38:35.929 --> 00:38:38.530
main thing is just getting in this room. Oftentimes,

00:38:38.610 --> 00:38:40.789
I don't come in here, and that's when nothing

00:38:40.789 --> 00:38:42.889
gets done. But every time I come and sit in this

00:38:42.889 --> 00:38:45.610
chair, something happens. So I just got to make

00:38:45.610 --> 00:38:48.190
sure I come in here more often. But it's hard

00:38:48.190 --> 00:38:49.929
because I work for myself. I'm working often.

00:38:50.030 --> 00:38:53.969
I work late. But I try, man. And I imagine you

00:38:53.969 --> 00:38:56.110
maybe get requests from time to time. Do people

00:38:56.110 --> 00:38:59.590
DM you? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I got quite

00:38:59.590 --> 00:39:01.829
a bit. Some of them I've been slacking on for

00:39:01.829 --> 00:39:06.119
a long time. But holy wars. is probably my number

00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:08.380
one song that i've been requested more often

00:39:08.380 --> 00:39:12.699
than not and i did record it and i never released

00:39:12.699 --> 00:39:15.440
it for some reason i don't know why because i

00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:18.320
think that happened during covid something happened

00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:20.460
i forget what something stopped me but i actually

00:39:20.460 --> 00:39:23.360
physically learned all the parts recorded the

00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:26.159
song and never made the video to accompany the

00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:28.579
song and i never did nothing with it but i have

00:39:28.579 --> 00:39:31.739
the mp3 of me playing it i just yeah but that

00:39:31.739 --> 00:39:33.400
would be my number one requested song would be

00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:38.000
holy waters And you do Pantera, Heresy, I'm Broken,

00:39:38.260 --> 00:39:41.539
Cemetery Gates. I wrote down Metallica. These

00:39:41.539 --> 00:39:43.519
kind of go back a few years. Unforgiven Solo,

00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:47.940
Sandman, Blackened. Yeah. So when I was in high

00:39:47.940 --> 00:39:51.219
school, oh boy, here's a whole other thing. When

00:39:51.219 --> 00:39:54.579
I was in high school, I actually dropped out

00:39:54.579 --> 00:39:57.699
towards the end. In the 11th grade, all I did

00:39:57.699 --> 00:40:00.059
was play guitar. I was up all night learning

00:40:00.059 --> 00:40:02.699
Metallica. That's it. I learned every song, note

00:40:02.699 --> 00:40:05.599
for note, every album. I knew every Metallica

00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:07.760
song. I was the guy. I would show up at parties

00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:09.539
with my little lamp, my guitar, and I would play

00:40:09.539 --> 00:40:11.960
any song people requested by Metallica. And that

00:40:11.960 --> 00:40:14.539
was, I think after I got my graduation diploma

00:40:14.539 --> 00:40:17.159
afterwards, but I did drop out at one point.

00:40:17.860 --> 00:40:20.199
I just wanted to go out there. I'm not a high

00:40:20.199 --> 00:40:24.639
school dropout, but anyways. Yeah. So I learned

00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:27.559
all those songs. I was in a band for a few years,

00:40:27.699 --> 00:40:29.840
you know, we kind of got into the originals.

00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:34.199
We had a CD out and then that kind of went. south

00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:37.199
quickly and then i didn't play nothing man for

00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:40.840
like probably 10 years i didn't do anything musically

00:40:40.840 --> 00:40:44.139
and i got into it again in like 2019 when i started

00:40:44.139 --> 00:40:47.699
that instagram account and that kind of oh man

00:40:47.699 --> 00:40:49.980
it helped me so much just to get back to playing

00:40:49.980 --> 00:40:52.219
and you know just building up a little bit of

00:40:52.219 --> 00:40:55.239
a following and buying new guitars and just playing

00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:58.719
them and getting new gear and you know but yeah

00:40:58.719 --> 00:41:01.000
performing live is probably what i'm best at

00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:04.219
and i haven't done it in forever so i'm really

00:41:04.219 --> 00:41:07.280
hoping i can eventually get back on stage yeah

00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:11.619
hopefully just got to find the right people stuff

00:41:11.619 --> 00:41:15.460
just keeping a unit together four guys or sometimes

00:41:15.460 --> 00:41:18.360
it's five i don't know how like aerosmith i don't

00:41:18.360 --> 00:41:20.960
know how they did that for all those years but

00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:24.519
they did break up or come back but um you know

00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:27.519
how four guys even if you're just on uh playing

00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:30.400
the club circuit trying to keep it together for

00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:34.690
12 months That's a tall order most of the time.

00:41:35.469 --> 00:41:37.710
Yeah, it's tough, man. It's tough. Especially

00:41:37.710 --> 00:41:41.030
if you drank the way I drank. Makes things even

00:41:41.030 --> 00:41:43.090
tougher. Luckily, that would never be a problem

00:41:43.090 --> 00:41:45.889
again. I don't know. I'd be curious to see how

00:41:45.889 --> 00:41:49.230
it would go now. I would never... I don't know.

00:41:49.309 --> 00:41:51.610
I thought about it, but... I don't know, man.

00:41:51.710 --> 00:41:54.969
I think I just got so used to just this now.

00:41:55.349 --> 00:41:58.590
It's kind of the idea of being in a group. Such

00:41:58.590 --> 00:42:01.760
a foreign thought now. you know, bouncing ideas

00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:04.000
off other musicians. Like what? I don't even

00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:05.739
know what that's like. No, I'm the only creative

00:42:05.739 --> 00:42:07.920
guy here. I do everything creatively. So I couldn't

00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:10.539
imagine other input. I'd probably, I need it

00:42:10.539 --> 00:42:13.880
sometimes. I don't get it, but yeah, we'll see,

00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:15.860
man, to be continued. Hopefully something will

00:42:15.860 --> 00:42:17.920
come up in the future and I'll, I'll have some

00:42:17.920 --> 00:42:23.119
cool stories there. Well, as my listeners have

00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:24.980
heard from time to time, it's probably been a

00:42:24.980 --> 00:42:27.179
few months, but I, I was telling you, Danny,

00:42:27.239 --> 00:42:32.679
I've got small children and, They sometimes make

00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:35.059
appearances on the other side of the door. I

00:42:35.059 --> 00:42:37.539
don't know. You maybe can't hear my four -year

00:42:37.539 --> 00:42:42.659
-old screaming, but we got pretty far without

00:42:42.659 --> 00:42:46.920
any interruptions, but anyway, I was going to

00:42:46.920 --> 00:42:50.400
say on that last point you made, there's got

00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:52.380
to be something about having full creative control

00:42:52.380 --> 00:42:55.980
over what you're doing that once you've got it

00:42:55.980 --> 00:42:57.940
and you've had it for a while, like you said,

00:42:58.360 --> 00:43:01.280
do I really want to get some other parties involved

00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:04.579
in here? I mean, on my end, it's just this podcast,

00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:07.780
but it's just me. I mean, I do everything. Sometimes

00:43:07.780 --> 00:43:11.099
it'd be nice to have some help, but I also like,

00:43:11.119 --> 00:43:12.679
they don't have to, I don't have any stakeholders.

00:43:12.820 --> 00:43:15.139
There's nobody that I have to do it a certain

00:43:15.139 --> 00:43:19.260
way. Yeah. Make somebody happy. Do you have a

00:43:19.260 --> 00:43:22.260
theme song? Uh, yeah, but I could probably use

00:43:22.260 --> 00:43:25.719
a new one. Okay. I'll set you up. I'll get you

00:43:25.719 --> 00:43:28.099
a good one. Wow. I'm pretty good for that. Yeah,

00:43:28.119 --> 00:43:30.219
no, I'm really good for that. I'll see what I

00:43:30.219 --> 00:43:32.360
can come up with. That would be spectacular,

00:43:32.659 --> 00:43:35.940
yeah. I know you're really busy, but yeah, I

00:43:35.940 --> 00:43:38.719
would be honored. Let's just put it that way.

00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:42.780
Okay, all right. I'll see what I can do. It's

00:43:42.780 --> 00:43:44.599
a cool name for a podcast, Dan Time. I like that.

00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:49.179
Yeah, I had to give it a couple weeks. I remember

00:43:49.179 --> 00:43:51.059
I just finally got out of bed one day and said,

00:43:51.139 --> 00:43:55.079
that's it. I couldn't think of a better title.

00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:57.079
I just kept coming back to Dan Time, Dan Time.

00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:03.800
All right, well, I'm going to... Let me get this

00:44:03.800 --> 00:44:10.059
guy on the... Get over here. I do want to introduce

00:44:10.059 --> 00:44:13.159
you here to my four -year -old, mostly because

00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:18.199
of his hair. Yeah. All right. Real quick. Hey,

00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:20.659
Wyatt, you've made a few appearances in the past.

00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:26.679
This is my long -haired four -year -old, Wyatt.

00:44:27.599 --> 00:44:32.880
Why it you wanna say hey you got cooler hair

00:44:32.880 --> 00:44:41.099
than me Look at that Cool I like your haircut,

00:44:41.260 --> 00:44:46.440
so you wanna show in the back oh Wow, yeah, it's

00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:49.199
pretty cool mullet man. He's got the the Vince

00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:53.440
Neil here circa 1984 But yeah more of a mullet

00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:56.519
Yeah, no, that's cool. I'm going for a skullet

00:44:56.519 --> 00:44:59.860
soon there. The hair is slowly disappearing.

00:45:01.320 --> 00:45:07.679
It'll be the whole cold in there. Okay. Can you

00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:11.699
hear me now? Say, hey, Danny. Hey, Danny. Hey,

00:45:11.719 --> 00:45:14.099
Wyatt. It's good to meet you, buddy. Say, how

00:45:14.099 --> 00:45:16.019
you doing? I really like your haircut. It's super

00:45:16.019 --> 00:45:19.719
cool. I'm doing good. How you doing? Good. Were

00:45:19.719 --> 00:45:21.400
you banging on the door? Did you want to see

00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:24.860
your dad? Yeah. Are you happy you see him now?

00:45:25.500 --> 00:45:32.920
Yeah. Cool. I'm glad I got to meet you. You know

00:45:32.920 --> 00:45:36.860
how to sing? Yeah. What do you like to sing?

00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:43.099
My planet song. He listens to the planet songs.

00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:47.360
What's the planet song? It's called... Mercury,

00:45:47.420 --> 00:45:51.300
Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus,

00:45:51.300 --> 00:45:55.179
Neptune. Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter,

00:45:55.420 --> 00:46:01.699
Saturn, Uranus, Neptune. That's my favorite one.

00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:05.099
That's a cool one. I like that one. What about

00:46:05.099 --> 00:46:09.179
Pluto? Is that part of the song? Yeah. I'll sing

00:46:09.179 --> 00:46:15.409
it. Mercury, Venus. Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn,

00:46:15.630 --> 00:46:19.710
Uranus, Neptune. There's eight planets in there.

00:46:20.670 --> 00:46:27.510
Okay. Now, the rest of the world is there. Okay,

00:46:27.550 --> 00:46:29.510
well, I'm going to have to sing that song tonight,

00:46:29.530 --> 00:46:32.130
too. It'll be in my next video. Where do you

00:46:32.130 --> 00:46:36.849
hear that song? Who sings it? It's on the TV.

00:46:38.329 --> 00:46:41.789
Wow, where on TV? All right. Say bye, Danny.

00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:44.280
See you later, Wyatt. It's nice to meet you.

00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:51.159
Now I know all my planets. Thanks for indulging

00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:57.400
there. Yeah, I know, man. It's a delicate balance.

00:46:57.599 --> 00:47:00.840
I think they were... I finished the whole song,

00:47:01.059 --> 00:47:06.340
and then Pluto next. And Pluto, and then Pluto,

00:47:06.500 --> 00:47:23.150
Pluto, Pluto. All right. What's I got him going?

00:47:23.210 --> 00:47:24.750
I didn't know how to, I don't know how to shut

00:47:24.750 --> 00:47:28.650
it down. Okay. Where's that on switch? All right.

00:47:29.889 --> 00:47:34.809
Well, Danny, I've really been sweating bullets

00:47:34.809 --> 00:47:38.170
at times with certain guests and And having kids

00:47:38.170 --> 00:47:39.909
in the house. Usually they're out of the house

00:47:39.909 --> 00:47:43.170
for a while for me to do this. And they were.

00:47:45.869 --> 00:47:47.630
That's cool, man. But so it goes. I don't mind.

00:47:48.909 --> 00:47:51.909
Anything that we covered a lot and we could probably

00:47:51.909 --> 00:47:55.210
pick back up in another year or so or whenever

00:47:55.210 --> 00:47:58.010
you like. This has been spectacular, Danny. Yeah,

00:47:58.010 --> 00:47:59.530
I appreciate it, man. It's been fun talking to

00:47:59.530 --> 00:48:02.869
you. Like I said, nothing crazy going on right

00:48:02.869 --> 00:48:08.250
now. Just work on a video. really hard i put

00:48:08.250 --> 00:48:11.230
it online whatever happens happens and uh that's

00:48:11.230 --> 00:48:12.849
all i'm doing right now i'm enjoying doing that

00:48:12.849 --> 00:48:15.809
and i'm going to keep doing it for now we'll

00:48:15.809 --> 00:48:17.409
keep doing what you're doing because it's catching

00:48:17.409 --> 00:48:21.449
on thanks buddy and uh thanks for your tolerance

00:48:21.449 --> 00:48:24.190
on this uh the back end who knows at this uh

00:48:24.190 --> 00:48:26.329
at this part of the podcast maybe some people

00:48:26.329 --> 00:48:29.010
bailed at the 30 minute mark who knows but uh

00:48:29.010 --> 00:48:32.010
i've enjoyed talking about all these songs all

00:48:32.010 --> 00:48:35.150
these bands with you and Yeah, we seem to have

00:48:35.150 --> 00:48:37.170
a lot in common. We come from the same era, the

00:48:37.170 --> 00:48:39.329
same place, so I like that. It's nice to talk

00:48:39.329 --> 00:48:42.710
to you about that. Yeah. All right. Well, folks,

00:48:42.769 --> 00:48:44.570
again, and this will be in the notes as well,

00:48:44.630 --> 00:48:49.309
follow Danny Cole, Mr. Danny Cole, anywhere you're

00:48:49.309 --> 00:48:52.269
scrolling or any platform, TikTok, Instagram,

00:48:52.530 --> 00:48:58.849
YouTube, Spotify as well. It's at Mr. Danny Cole.

00:48:59.989 --> 00:49:04.469
Is it? Is it right? I don't know. That's a good

00:49:04.469 --> 00:49:06.210
question. Actually, you know what? I should plug

00:49:06.210 --> 00:49:09.829
my last song that I came out with. It was a duet

00:49:09.829 --> 00:49:13.610
with a good friend of mine, John, who he coincidentally

00:49:13.610 --> 00:49:17.409
is a singer in a Panthera Chibi band. And he

00:49:17.409 --> 00:49:20.809
sings probably the best fill you've ever heard.

00:49:21.190 --> 00:49:24.090
So anyways, yeah, we and him put a song out on

00:49:24.090 --> 00:49:26.389
Spotify and YouTube. We have a video. It's called

00:49:26.389 --> 00:49:29.610
Dyad, D -Y -A -D. And the song is called My Worth.

00:49:31.169 --> 00:49:35.929
But Worth, like Earth. Yeah, check that song

00:49:35.929 --> 00:49:38.429
out if you haven't heard it. It's good. Hopefully

00:49:38.429 --> 00:49:41.289
we can do some more. We've been talking. Man,

00:49:41.429 --> 00:49:43.409
that's another thing, and I know I've got to

00:49:43.409 --> 00:49:45.710
wrap this up, but Pantera tribute bands that

00:49:45.710 --> 00:49:47.730
do it properly, not really a lot of them out

00:49:47.730 --> 00:49:51.429
there. Because you've got to find someone that

00:49:51.429 --> 00:49:54.409
can play the part of Phil, and there's really

00:49:54.409 --> 00:49:57.969
just one Phil Anselmo. Yeah, I'll send you a

00:49:57.969 --> 00:49:59.829
link, man. You'll be surprised. This guy's good.

00:49:59.849 --> 00:50:01.349
He's got what it takes. I think he's the best

00:50:01.349 --> 00:50:05.610
out there. Shout out to John. They're called

00:50:05.610 --> 00:50:08.969
Fantera. They play all over. I should say all

00:50:08.969 --> 00:50:13.170
over around northern Ontario, Quebec. Where are

00:50:13.170 --> 00:50:15.969
you? Anyway. Gulf Coast of Florida. Actually,

00:50:15.989 --> 00:50:19.010
just outside of Pensacola, Florida. Okay. Right

00:50:19.010 --> 00:50:21.610
on. It's a pleasure meeting you, Dan. Yeah, this

00:50:21.610 --> 00:50:24.570
has been fantastic. Thanks for your time, for

00:50:24.570 --> 00:50:28.360
your Dan time. That's just fantastic to link

00:50:28.360 --> 00:50:31.079
up with you today. And thanks for sharing all

00:50:31.079 --> 00:50:35.000
your stories with my listeners. Yeah, well, I'll

00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:36.639
make sure I share the podcast when it's out.

00:50:37.719 --> 00:50:40.840
Love to do it again next time. And thanks everybody

00:50:40.840 --> 00:50:43.159
for listening and subscribing here to the Day

00:50:43.159 --> 00:50:45.780
and Time podcast. You can listen on any platform.

00:50:45.900 --> 00:50:49.360
This episode will be on YouTube, maybe before

00:50:49.360 --> 00:50:52.360
the audio platforms, but you can also find the

00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:59.099
show on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and wherever

00:50:59.099 --> 00:51:02.599
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00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:04.739
Danny Cole. Give him a follow, and your day,

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your week's going to be a lot better. Time's

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over. My son Wyatt just said, time's over. See

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you next week, guys. Thank you, Danny. Great

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talking to you today. Take care. You too, boy.

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All right. Time's over. Whoa.