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You're listening to the Dan time podcast. I'm

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your host Dan McArdle 48 weeks so far of this

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project We've come a long way and there's a long

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way still to go So I appreciate you joining me

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for this ride across the Daniverse. I hope it's

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been fun That's what it's supposed to be fun.

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over the coming weeks. I will be releasing some

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never before seen videos from previous Dantime

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episodes. Last week, my guest was Danielle Cosby.

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songstress out of Nashville, Tennessee. Her new

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single, You, is available everywhere this Friday,

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July 12th. We're keeping it in the Music City

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today, welcoming back one of my favorite singer

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-songwriter guests who originally appeared way

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back on episode number nine, Dan Harrison. Not

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only have I been listening to Dan's songs since

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last October, my little boys have latched on.

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They've got their favorites. I can't tell you

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how many times I've asked them, what do you guys

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want to hear? And they reply from the back seat,

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we went south. We went south. On the interstate,

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heading straight for that small town. The town.

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So that's Wyatt singing his favorite song, We

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Went South. I remember driving home from T -ball

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practice with Lauren this past spring, and we

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listened to Alameda. On his request, no fewer

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than about 10 times in a row. On this episode,

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Dan's promoting the current single, Talkin' Dirty,

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downloaded on all platforms. Dan's music, at

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least for me, is just perfect riding around music.

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It takes you places, gets you thinking, makes

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you reminisce, makes you wonder about what's

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possible. The choruses get stuck in your head,

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the riffs, the solos. and all the other accents

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that make these songs uniquely Dan Harrison.

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This is pro quality. Dan Harrison is a thinking

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man's songwriter. He's a music fan. He was also

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a double major at Wake Forest and speaks fluent

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Spanish. Dan knows the elements of a great song.

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He knows how to connect with the listener on

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an emotional level and he surrounds himself with

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talented people in the industry. When he's not

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writing his own songs, Dan is also out there

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on stage performing with other musicians. Go

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to danharrisonmusic .com, sign up for updates,

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follow him on the socials, Dan Harrison Music.

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Okay, enough said, let's get to the conversation.

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It is Dan Harrison time. Dan Harrison time. I've

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name dropped him at least a couple times on previous

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episodes since the first one. And he's released

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four singles if I'm keeping count in 2024. A

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lot to catch up on today. The new single, Talkin'

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Dirty. Can't wait to talk about, can't wait to

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talk dirty with Dan. I actually didn't think,

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that wasn't in my notes, but yeah. Dan there

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for you. I would have said it if you But a big

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deal here the first return singer -songwriter

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musician on the show Dan Harrison, how you doing

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today, man? Well, thank you so much for having

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me Dan as always and I'm doing good. I just I'm

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honored you had me come back. You must have run

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out of interesting people to have to bring me

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back Before you before you hit the 52 mark, but

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I it's an it's an honor to be back. I do appreciate

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it um good yeah well it's been quite a busy year

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and just to think that 2024 we're at the halfway

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mark and man you've really uh been pedaled to

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the metal i think since we wrapped up in what

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would have been maybe september of 23 we were

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talking some we went south and i don't think

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uh the duet with sophie lin had quite that had

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not been released so far so good the music just

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kept coming and coming as we rolled into january

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february march Uh, folks, if you've missed some

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of these releases, please go back, hit pause

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on this podcast and get on your favorite platform,

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Spotify, Apple music, wherever you stream music

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and catch up on where you've missed. I've got

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my favorites and I'll drop those in, but we're

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going to talk about the, the here and now for

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Dan Harrison, what's going on. And, uh, I understand

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you just played a show today that was not scheduled,

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but how'd that go? This this gig was a was actually

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a little bit different. It wasn't my gig. I was

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playing guitar for a buddy of mine I do I play

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guitar for a bunch of different artists friends

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of mine as well as my own gigs, but either way

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It's just always fun to get the call and go out

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and it was for a festival in downtown Nashville

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today And that's always fun to play especially

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in the summer just everyone's out like good spirits

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good vibes and that that never gets old and I

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just love to be out in the in the in the Sun

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and and playing some tunes. Although, the sun

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is pretty hot today. It's been pretty hot. I

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don't know, you guys having that heat wave too?

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Because, man, it is rough here. It has been rough.

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Yeah, you know, you just try to get close to

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the water down here. Because if it's that hot,

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the breeze makes a little bit of difference,

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but yeah. Oh, it does. But Dan, how are the,

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when you get to play a set, now sometimes you're

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playing, it's just you and the acoustic guitar.

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and sometimes you got some guys behind you. Are

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you still dusting off some of the old ones, like

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running out of radio when you get to play with

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a full band? How are those sets drawn up? It

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kind of depends on the show, and that's a callback

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for sure, running out of radio. It depends on

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the show, depends on how many originals, because

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sometimes it leans more playing covers versus

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original, but obviously we're talking about more

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original shows. It really kind of just depends

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on the show. I'm trying to lean more into the

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newer stuff for sure, just because that's the

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stuff I'm trying to promote and put, you know,

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currently putting out and is fresher. And frankly,

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I think it's, you know, better. I like the stuff

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that I put out when I first moved to town. But,

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you know, I would hope the stuff that I'm putting

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out after being in town six years is better than

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the stuff when I first moved here. Otherwise,

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that's not a progression you want to be on the

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other way around. So, yeah, I definitely lean

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more towards new stuff. And but but every now

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and then I'll throw in especially if I'm like

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if it's a lot of originals if it's like like

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I'm playing a show this coming week actually

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out of town a full band show out in Norfolk,

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Virginia. I'm playing a long a long show there.

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So that one I'm definitely doing some older originals

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because I just have a lot of set time to fill.

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So that and that's fun. It's fun to be able to

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get to break them out because kind of putting

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them next to the new ones and just kind of. It's

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kind of like going back in time for three minutes

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and like, oh, I remember this song and I'm here

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now. Wow. So yeah. Yeah. I could see where some

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of the older songs, like you said, you've moved,

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moved along as far as production and you probably

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hear certain things that you did in the studio.

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You're like, I would have done that a little

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differently now, but when you get to play it

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live, you can put your current twist and experience

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on it. The growth. Exactly. A hundred percent.

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Yeah. I mean, John Mayer said this I don't even

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know if I said this in our first podcast. I probably

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have said it in every interview I've ever done,

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just because I love it so much. But he talks

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about how songs are like time capsules, and they're

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capturing a moment in time. Because he's been

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asked about like, oh, does he ever still play

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like Body as a Wonderland or any of those ones?

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He still liked those songs. It's like, well,

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he's like 20 years plus older than he was when

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he wrote them. He's in a different stage of life.

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And he's like, you know, I might not relate to

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those songs now, but there was a time that was

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me. So it's still valid for me to play it. And

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it takes me back to that moment. So I feel the

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same about my song. I think any songwriter, artist,

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anyone who creates will tell you whatever thing

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that they're creating, it's capturing that moment

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in time as much as anything else in their life

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relative to them. So whether it's seeing an old

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painting or listening back to an old song you

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wrote, it's going to take you back to the circumstances

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in which you created it as well, for sure. Dan,

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I want to jump right into Talking Dirty here.

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I want, I was thinking about this today. I've

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been listening to the song a lot. The word play

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has always been characteristic of your writing

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style. And beyond that, Dan, I also like how

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you kind of pair up phrases and you don't see

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this in everybody's songwriting. Like you'll

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talk about rather kick it back 30 rack instead

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room for two, me and you messing up a short bed,

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getting our hands a little less than clean. Actually,

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that wasn't the one I'm looking here at the lyrics.

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Yeah, sinking in some fresh mud stripping down

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cleaning up out in the creek and the way that

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rolls out like that That's all Dan Harrison when

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people hear this It's not gonna remind them of

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somebody else because those and I know you got

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some writing partners as well but it's like characteristic

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of your sound the wordplay and I think and we

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went south the 09 Jeep reference Saved up some

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green like you just no one else is gonna write

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that that's your line But I appreciate I appreciate

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that. I definitely obviously have to give credit

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to co -writers. I think, I mean, they've certainly

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helped me develop that sensibility that I have.

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There was a time when I wasn't coming up with

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those kinds of lines, but after having it rubbed

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off on me for so long, that's definitely, that's

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the thing, the kind of things that I gravitate

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to. I just say hooks, like, because there's like

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the main hook of the song, like the title, there's

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guitar hooks, there's even hooks within lines,

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like any kind of like... inner rhyme or alliteration,

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stuff that just makes the line pop a little bit

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more and more memorable, like those ones you

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just referenced in those two songs. So I really

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appreciate that. And that's certainly. So this

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is another I forget who said this, but I was

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seeing a show, another songwriter said something

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like this or maybe it was a publisher and a publisher.

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I don't I don't know. It all blurs together,

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but something about songwriting. This is this

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is what I have come to. This is what I aspire

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for my songwriting to be in my songs in general.

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They talk about how great songwriting is you

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come from the melody and you stay for the lyric.

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So the melody and the music captures your attention.

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And it's great, no doubt. And it has to be great

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because we're talking about music. So we want

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the music to be there. But the lyric having being

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really crafted is important to me. Not overdone,

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hopefully, or overwritten, but really well crafted

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and perfectly fit for the song and the sentiment

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that you're trying to express. then it can have

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layers and it's a listening experience. So people,

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it captures people's attention like, oh, this

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song is cool. And then they start actually listening

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to the words like, oh, wait a minute, there's

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something, there's more going on here. Like I

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need to listen to this again. Like I don't want,

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I don't want songs to be not just one hit wonders.

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I want to be one and done. I want to, I want

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people to re -listen. Like I, my favorite, I

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still, I still listen back to my favorite records

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all the time, like just uncovering pieces. And

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obviously, cause they also bring me back there,

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their comfort, like they bring me back to certain

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things, but they were crafted and so well done.

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It's like figuring out all the nuances, lyrically,

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production -wise. So I really try as much as

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I can, sometimes to the annoyance of my collaborators,

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because I'm just like, no, this line's not right

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yet. Like, they're all just trying to be done

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and go home. They're like, no, we're close. And

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so I can sometimes maybe be a little bit too

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much. And I have to learn when to pull back and

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like, hey, just let say the thing. You don't

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have to overthink it. But I definitely try. say

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it as freshly and in a unique way as possible,

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because I think that's ultimately what distinguishes

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an artist beyond their actual singing voice is

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their lyrical phrasing and flow and how they

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say things. Because I mean, you know the way

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Springsteen is going to say something, the way

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Dylan is going to say something, the way even

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in the country music, like the way Morgan Wall

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would say something versus Hardy versus Eric

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Church. I know Eric Church is phrasing just as

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well, if not better than his lyrical style. hear

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a song like oh that's such an Eric Church line

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even if he didn't write it or not but like it's

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the kind of thing he would have written or then

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I find out that he actually did and someone else

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cut it but his phrasing is so unique and and

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really inimitable and and that's another piece

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of it that I think is really important so you

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kind of hit it on the head there yeah real quick

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talking about Eric Church and we'll touch on

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the the single that preceded this one I go to

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church loved that one you know some people fell

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in love with Eric Church then there's been this

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huge wave of new artists and kind of a new era

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and Man, you'd go check back into some of those

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albums and some of those singles that really

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lit your world on fire They're still gonna do

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it. I was listening to Eric Church last night

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and Gosh, I mean just taking that song Springsteen.

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I don't know that there's a better Crafted song

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in the genre. It's in the top three. I think

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since it was released. I mean, it's yeah, I agree

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I've talked about this to many people and I might

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have even have mentioned it on my social media,

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on Instagram or something, but if I had to pinpoint

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a song that really was the life -changing song

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for me, it was that song because it was the song

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that bridged the gap for me with the music I

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grew up with, you know, classic rock and all

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these other things with country music. And that

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sort of nexus point showed me, hey, okay, if

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I'm going to do music someday, like, I got to

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go where this guy is and do it and do what he

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does because that it just really hit me like

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obvious I hadn't had that exact experience that

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he had but it just hit that emotion and obviously

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just the references it all just like connected

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the dots for me and then it's you know like you

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said with my song from the prior single sort

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of a full circle moment of me then doing that

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same kind of referential song about him that

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he did about spring scene although it's it's

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more concretely about him than uh springsteen

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lyrically was like how the songs are tied in

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with the memories of that relationship. So slightly

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different, but similar concept of using the references.

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So it really, yeah. No, I mean, I couldn't agree

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with you more either. I mean, I could go on about

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Eric's catalog. I mean, so many songs. That wasn't

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the first of his that I heard, but that was the

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one that really like blew the doors open for

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me. it's when I started to understand what songwriting

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was because you know I grew up singing and playing

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guitar but we start off imitating before we start

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before we start creating and so that was when

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the doors started or the light started to flicker

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on like okay this is this is something I need

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to follow where this is going absolutely Dan

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I think you do a great job and this latest single

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is no exception of bringing in memorable guitar

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solos. None of the solos in your songs feel like

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throw away or just filler. It's like, well, it's

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just a good place to just drop one in. It's like,

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well, that was pretty cool. Like they all kind

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of have that quality. I think you work with,

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in my notes here, Alan Schoenfeld, Sol Littlefield.

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When you guys get to that part where you're trying

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to craft that solo for that song, is that some

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pretty tense moments in the studio where you're...

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Hey, let's hammer that out again. Let's do another

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take No, I mean, it's Adam is Adam and Saul are

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just absolute professionals. I mean they they

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play on every hit record of the last like 20

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years they've been a part of at least Adam has

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assaults a little bit younger, but they saw played

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on all of Luke combs and stuff played he's a

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guitar and beer never broke my heart and working

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with those guys really was an incredible experience

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because You know, I've always been a guitar player

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and I played all the guitars on my earliest records.

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And I play guitar on a lot of these songs too,

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but it was a new experience kind of going to

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the studio with a band and actually tracking,

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because that's what we did for a lot of these

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songs. We kind of track them together. Since

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I'd already had them written, I had these demos

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done that I made. And that was part of the project

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too, was to try and help me develop and find

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my own sound. I built out these demos myself

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with my producer's help, but really figured out

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like what kind of... direction I wanted to go

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sonically, where I wanted certain parts, the

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kinds of parts I wanted. And to be honest, a

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lot of the records are pretty close, at least

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arrangement -wise, to what the demos were. Any

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differences are what those guys came in and their

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professional level brought up another 5 -10 %

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and made it the difference between a good -sounding

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demo versus a damn good, like a hit record. Those

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guys, they just are pros. There's no issue, no

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tension. In Talking Dirty specifically, the only

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thing I knew that I wanted was a talk box. If

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you know what a talk box is, like that's the

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Peter Frampton, Do You Feel Like We Do, and all

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that stuff. Just because of the song, I thought

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it was a call to, like a cool little reference

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to the fact the song's called Talking Dirty,

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that the solo used a talk box. And that's like,

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anytime you hear that, like kind of what, like

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vocally kind of sound in the song, like there's

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licks throughout the song that happen too, like

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a wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah. I just let Adam

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go nuts because he like had the thing he got

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it and he was just doing it and I didn't even

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need to because a lot of these songs I went in

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later like they track the like meat and potatoes

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the rhythm guitars I also got a shout out Devin

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Malone too because he did all the acoustic and

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banjo and all that stuff and he's an excellent

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player all around electric and everything too

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but he's really amazing at the acoustic and he's

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played on all of Sam Hunt's records and everything

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so it was really cool honestly to work with all

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these guys these are the guys that played on

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the stuff that made me want to move to town in

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the first place so it was a really really cool

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full circle moment For that, but yeah, I mean,

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I'm used to playing guitar on all my records

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and to let kind of let these guys come in and

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let the pros do their work. It really forced

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me to kick it up a notch. It's like, Hey, like,

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do I really need to play on this song? Like I'm

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going to play it live all the time. Like, and

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I'll learn the part. It's not a mat. Like Keith

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Urban doesn't play on every play guitar in every

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single song that he. he might like do like a

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signature lick or a solo but he's not like doing

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every single rhythm part and every like he first

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of all he doesn't have time he's on the road

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all the time like he's Keith but I learned from

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that experience it's like hey these guys do it

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every day let them elevate the song and then

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I can put my flavor in it where I need it to

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and this song in particular I think I might have

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played like a band guitar part in the in the

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verse of the pre -chorus but I didn't actually

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I don't think I actually played any guitar on

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this track but I will say the demo was very much

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informed with what they did. And there were some

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other songs that are coming out soon, which you

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don't even know about yet, where we even took,

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because the parts were just right from the demo

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and we were in the same key in the same tempo,

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that we literally just took the track that I

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did from the demo and put it in the final record

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because it just was right. It was interesting.

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Every track was a different experience. We completely

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redid everything and it was still... informed

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by the demo but some I didn't play on at all

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some I played a lot of stuff on still like we

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went back and overdubbed later and others it

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was kind of a mix so long -winded answer as mine

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tend to be but yeah I don't there was no issue

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with those guys because they're pros and I'd

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also put in a lot of work beforehand putting

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together these demos a lot of times in the studio

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you know artists or the songs come in just as

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work tapes like just an acoustic guitar and a

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voice so it's really up to them like these band

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guys are like kind of almost producing at the

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same time too, along with the producer and engineer,

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like coming up with parts, trying to come up

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with the vibe. And that's hard. That's obviously

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harder and takes a lot more legwork. So I tried

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to make it as easy for them as possible and just

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like, Hey, here are fully built demos for all

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of them. Like just take them and elevate them.

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And that's what they did. I mean, just, it sounds

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fantastic. It sounds like that. You do have some

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pros behind you, but again, this is, this is

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the brainchild of Dan Harrison. If you go back

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to Hangover Here and that... I'm probably not

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singing it just right, but is that something

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that came to you one day and you're like, do

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you kind of get these melodies in your head and

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then pair them with some lyrics you've already

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been writing? Or how does it usually happen?

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It's happened always I remember specifically

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with the hangover here if that was a riff that

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I made on the demo I remember that and they they

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retracted themselves because they when they were

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in the studio, but I remember that riff It all

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depends. I mean hangover here We'd had written

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for a long time and we we did like actually two

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different demos because the first one we did

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just like wasn't Wasn't right and it was when

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me and my my friend Elise we were just like so

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much newer to town and newer to the recording

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process so we just it wasn't right. So when I

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was doing it, when I knew I wanted to cut it

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for this project, I redid my own version of it.

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And that riff came along just in that process.

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But the song had already existed for a long time.

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So sometimes it can just come along later. I

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could literally be in the shower. A lot of times

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I feel like when I'm doing things where, or like

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when my brain has time to wander, like if I'm

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half asleep or if I'm driving or if I'm on an

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airplane, any time that my brain isn't busy with

00:21:54.930 --> 00:21:56.829
an immediate task at hand, that's sort of when

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things like that you know, just come into my

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head. But a lot of what I do is pairing melodies

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or vibes or chord progressions or whatever with

00:22:07.170 --> 00:22:10.769
another lyric or title idea that I had separately.

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It's just like playing puzzle pieces or Tetris,

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like kind of just matching them together. Sometimes

00:22:15.569 --> 00:22:18.950
though, it all comes at once. Like there's a

00:22:18.950 --> 00:22:21.069
song I have coming out, the last song I'm putting

00:22:21.069 --> 00:22:24.369
out this year. I very much remember at least

00:22:24.369 --> 00:22:27.210
like the chorus melody in the hook concept. That

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all came at once like one night like just the

00:22:29.630 --> 00:22:34.150
met lead the melody was so tied to how that that

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they were just tied together like the way I heard

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when I first thought of that hook it just was

00:22:37.890 --> 00:22:41.950
like Like immediately it's so sometimes there's

00:22:41.950 --> 00:22:44.569
no there's no Hard and fast rule. It's happened

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all kinds of ways for me and I'm sure any any

00:22:46.390 --> 00:22:50.289
creative would say the same Dan I love during

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the time a few months ago when hangover here

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was the new single and some of the social media

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posts and particularly, I mean, I still laugh

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about this, Dan, the, the one you did where it's

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like, okay, hangover at 21 and you just spring

00:23:03.569 --> 00:23:06.369
right up, you grab a Gatorade and off you go,

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hangover at 31. And folks, if you, if you miss

00:23:10.089 --> 00:23:12.990
this one, go back and watch it. Dan's acting

00:23:12.990 --> 00:23:16.390
chops are pretty solid there with the hand shaking,

00:23:16.390 --> 00:23:19.289
trying to pour the glass of water. I mean, we've

00:23:19.289 --> 00:23:21.490
all been there and my gosh, you know, if you

00:23:21.490 --> 00:23:24.809
make it to 41, when you make it, that sounded

00:23:24.809 --> 00:23:28.369
bad, but it doesn't get any easier. So I thought

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that was hilarious, Dan, and the way that you

00:23:30.849 --> 00:23:35.450
guys crafted the video, because again, there's

00:23:35.450 --> 00:23:39.170
a lot of songs that address the party, the after

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party, but what about the next, what about 7

00:23:42.390 --> 00:23:45.170
.45 the next morning, you're running late for

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work or you're not running late for work, but

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you just realize, oh my gosh, what was that all

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about last night? And I'm paying for it big time.

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Oh yeah, absolutely. I appreciate that. That

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was one of my favorite posts from that video.

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That was just, I knew when I was putting that

00:24:04.720 --> 00:24:08.220
thought, sometimes it's hard to figure out, it's

00:24:08.220 --> 00:24:10.079
hard to plan content for certain songs. I don't

00:24:10.079 --> 00:24:12.339
really know what to do here, but that song really

00:24:12.339 --> 00:24:14.359
lent itself to just like, oh, there's so many

00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:16.920
ideas we can do around drinking and hangovers

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and that's always fun when. And I try and have

00:24:19.829 --> 00:24:22.089
songs like that too that have like a whole kind

00:24:22.089 --> 00:24:25.529
of world or a universe in them that like we can

00:24:25.529 --> 00:24:28.509
extrapolate and exploit in other forms like that.

00:24:29.130 --> 00:24:31.029
So yeah, that was a lot of fun. I go to church

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with someone too. There's just so much to work

00:24:32.390 --> 00:24:33.890
with because it's obviously all song references.

00:24:34.269 --> 00:24:36.809
So different, different thing obviously, but

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yeah, that was funny. And it's true. I mean,

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I feel like I don't drink that much anymore anyway,

00:24:43.849 --> 00:24:46.480
just cause like. I don't know. I mean, I will

00:24:46.480 --> 00:24:48.759
certainly if someone is giving me a drink I will

00:24:48.759 --> 00:24:52.259
rarely turn it down. But man, I just can't the

00:24:52.259 --> 00:24:56.619
hangovers they last like a day plus now I can't

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I Literally, I mean you I'm sure you remember

00:24:59.000 --> 00:25:00.920
too. It was like two hours in the Gatorade and

00:25:00.920 --> 00:25:05.599
I'm good. Oh Yeah, there's not Yeah, and then

00:25:05.599 --> 00:25:07.220
halfway, you know through the next day, you'd

00:25:07.220 --> 00:25:10.019
have you've gotten through If it's your workday

00:25:10.019 --> 00:25:12.619
or whatever and you're 22 or 24 years old and

00:25:12.619 --> 00:25:14.930
you're already thinking about that night You're

00:25:14.930 --> 00:25:18.869
ready to go again. Um, it's 31 you need another

00:25:18.869 --> 00:25:24.170
day Yeah, it makes me sick just thinking about

00:25:24.170 --> 00:25:28.809
being like that back then So but uh different

00:25:28.809 --> 00:25:32.049
yeah different era for sure what about just um

00:25:32.049 --> 00:25:35.349
on that note do you feel like that there's Is

00:25:35.349 --> 00:25:37.710
there much pressure out there living in nashville?

00:25:37.890 --> 00:25:40.170
maybe not just the circles that you run in but

00:25:40.299 --> 00:25:42.680
the places and events that you commit to and

00:25:42.680 --> 00:25:44.980
then kind of afterwards is it is there pressure

00:25:44.980 --> 00:25:49.740
to to hang out and And drink or do people mostly

00:25:49.740 --> 00:25:53.380
respect if you're you're not drinking Oh, I mean,

00:25:53.400 --> 00:25:55.119
there's definitely I don't know pressure is not

00:25:55.119 --> 00:25:57.259
the right word but it's just definitely something

00:25:57.259 --> 00:26:00.740
you're confronted with all the time like Press

00:26:00.740 --> 00:26:02.519
not pressure to drink. There's definitely like

00:26:02.519 --> 00:26:05.500
You feel I think at least I feel it, you know

00:26:05.500 --> 00:26:08.869
a pressure to like be places like being a part

00:26:08.869 --> 00:26:10.890
of the scene, showing up, supporting people,

00:26:11.029 --> 00:26:12.430
having to support yourself, whether or not you're

00:26:12.430 --> 00:26:15.829
playing, keeping running into people, because

00:26:15.829 --> 00:26:17.950
that's how you get on people's radar, whether

00:26:17.950 --> 00:26:19.849
it's through they keep seeing you play or you

00:26:19.849 --> 00:26:21.849
keep running into them at the same place. So

00:26:21.849 --> 00:26:26.630
absolutely, there's definitely that sort of dynamic.

00:26:26.930 --> 00:26:29.349
And within that, drinking is obviously a big

00:26:29.349 --> 00:26:31.089
part of the culture of the town. And obviously,

00:26:32.349 --> 00:26:35.049
we lionize it in country music. Drinking is such

00:26:35.049 --> 00:26:37.750
a... Lauded thing but we obviously we you know,

00:26:37.930 --> 00:26:39.329
there's plenty of songs that talk about addiction

00:26:39.329 --> 00:26:41.289
as well because it is and I have plenty of friends

00:26:41.289 --> 00:26:43.890
here that you know, I've moved to town with me

00:26:43.890 --> 00:26:46.609
around the same time and the drip, you know the

00:26:46.609 --> 00:26:48.950
drinking they let the drinking kind of get the

00:26:48.950 --> 00:26:51.309
better of them like Everyone's out here to have

00:26:51.309 --> 00:26:53.210
a good time and even when we're quote working

00:26:53.210 --> 00:26:55.789
and we can all have fun But it's kind of like

00:26:55.789 --> 00:26:57.430
they don't really tell you like you got to figure

00:26:57.430 --> 00:26:59.829
out your own limits and like what works for you

00:26:59.829 --> 00:27:01.869
and like and that and that's true in terms of

00:27:01.869 --> 00:27:04.410
drinking and just and hanging out like There

00:27:04.410 --> 00:27:06.329
might be, usually there's like three or four

00:27:06.329 --> 00:27:08.069
events going on almost every night in Nashville.

00:27:08.309 --> 00:27:10.650
Like I need to like, oh, I should show face at

00:27:10.650 --> 00:27:13.049
one of them. And there are some nights where

00:27:13.049 --> 00:27:15.089
I try and hit all of them and for, you know,

00:27:15.269 --> 00:27:18.230
30 minutes to 45 minutes each. And there's some

00:27:18.230 --> 00:27:19.470
nights I only hit one or two. And then there's

00:27:19.470 --> 00:27:21.210
some nights where I'm like, man, there's just

00:27:21.210 --> 00:27:23.730
so much going on and I have so much on my plate.

00:27:23.750 --> 00:27:27.269
And I'm just so mentally exhausted that I wouldn't

00:27:27.269 --> 00:27:30.410
be my best if I'm there. and then that's not

00:27:30.410 --> 00:27:32.349
serving you well. If you're not able to take

00:27:32.349 --> 00:27:34.049
advantage of the situation there and be present,

00:27:34.470 --> 00:27:36.710
that's something that we all struggle with. I've

00:27:36.710 --> 00:27:40.009
struggled with immensely. So in those kind of

00:27:40.009 --> 00:27:41.609
moments, I try and just take a step back, sort

00:27:41.609 --> 00:27:42.650
of what we were talking about before we started

00:27:42.650 --> 00:27:44.670
the podcast, like finding, trying to find that

00:27:44.670 --> 00:27:47.210
balance, you know, because it's so easy to just

00:27:47.210 --> 00:27:49.650
be go, go, go. I always got, I have a million

00:27:49.650 --> 00:27:52.289
recording things I'm working on for myself and

00:27:52.289 --> 00:27:54.619
for other people. And then at that same time

00:27:54.619 --> 00:27:56.839
trying to show up to the places to meet the right

00:27:56.839 --> 00:27:58.420
people and be in the right spot at the right

00:27:58.420 --> 00:28:01.140
time and to create opportunities. And so it's

00:28:01.140 --> 00:28:03.579
a never ending kind of balance and struggle.

00:28:04.299 --> 00:28:06.420
And that's, you know, part of it is some people

00:28:06.420 --> 00:28:09.440
relish that and it can be fun, but it can also

00:28:09.440 --> 00:28:13.440
be overwhelming. So definitely there is a pressure,

00:28:13.460 --> 00:28:15.420
whether it's external or internal, some mixture

00:28:15.420 --> 00:28:19.000
of both, certainly to be present and hang out.

00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:21.519
and there's just alcohol is there. I mean, there's

00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:23.920
plenty of people that don't drink anymore. And

00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:26.119
that I know, like I said, that, you know, went

00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:28.200
to a bad place with it and kind of came back.

00:28:28.440 --> 00:28:31.240
So I don't think anyone's really pressuring anybody.

00:28:31.700 --> 00:28:33.400
It's just like, you're just surrounded by it.

00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:36.019
You have to have your own strength of will. Well

00:28:36.019 --> 00:28:39.420
said. Me personally, sometimes I'm fine drinking

00:28:39.420 --> 00:28:42.160
the water if I don't want to drink, but club

00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:44.019
soda with lime. I'll just throw that out there.

00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:46.759
It looks like you're enjoying the beverage. If

00:28:46.759 --> 00:28:48.539
you're flashing the grin and you're hanging out,

00:28:48.619 --> 00:28:51.279
it's 11 o 'clock and you're in a bar. People

00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:54.920
think that's a gin and tonic. I'll have a Coke

00:28:54.920 --> 00:28:57.240
or a ginger ale. They don't know. They probably

00:28:57.240 --> 00:29:00.579
think it's Jack. Who cares? Right. You know?

00:29:00.779 --> 00:29:03.079
Yeah. And honestly, I still get hungover anyway,

00:29:03.140 --> 00:29:04.839
even if I don't drink. If I'm out late enough

00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:08.200
and at those bars and we're like, I still feel

00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:11.759
terrible the next day. Yeah. You know, it's it's

00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:13.559
alcohol is not going to make any better for sure.

00:29:13.839 --> 00:29:19.299
But. Yeah, no, it's and you gotta How about some

00:29:19.299 --> 00:29:21.759
of the things that you have? Where you've taken

00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:25.400
the music like Key West Songwriters Festival

00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:29.920
Back in May. How was that experience? Oh It was

00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:31.819
a blast it always is and that definitely kind

00:29:31.819 --> 00:29:34.000
of what you're What we were just talking about

00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:36.319
with you know in terms of being there and then

00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:38.880
that there's more That that one's harder to resist

00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:40.420
in terms of drinking but that's just because

00:29:40.420 --> 00:29:42.380
you know, we're all we're all down there at the

00:29:42.380 --> 00:29:46.799
beach like That's a bit of a different situation.

00:29:46.960 --> 00:29:49.359
That's spring break for Nashville. But it was

00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:51.299
awesome. It's always a great time. That was probably

00:29:51.299 --> 00:29:55.259
my fourth time going since I moved here. And

00:29:55.259 --> 00:29:58.900
it's a great time. It's always a place that I

00:29:58.900 --> 00:30:01.240
make a lot of new friends that I might have already

00:30:01.240 --> 00:30:03.539
known in town, but I didn't really spend any

00:30:03.539 --> 00:30:05.519
time with. But you kind of get to know people

00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:09.829
in a different setting. It's well more than worth

00:30:09.829 --> 00:30:11.609
the price of how expensive it is to go and stay

00:30:11.609 --> 00:30:15.069
there in Key West for a week, right? And and

00:30:15.069 --> 00:30:17.269
I always kind of treat it as like a work vacation

00:30:17.269 --> 00:30:21.309
so to speak, but it's a lot of fun and But definitely

00:30:21.309 --> 00:30:23.309
have to pace yourself just like within this town

00:30:23.309 --> 00:30:25.269
and industry in general you just it's a really

00:30:25.269 --> 00:30:29.390
good microcosmic microcosm and metaphor for Nashville

00:30:29.390 --> 00:30:32.440
in general, you know five days of Non -stop drinking

00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:35.440
and partying and playing shows like you you you'll

00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:37.240
kill yourself real quickly if you're not careful

00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:39.019
And I've I've had those years. I learned it the

00:30:39.019 --> 00:30:42.500
hard way. So I've gotten a lot better at I'm

00:30:42.500 --> 00:30:45.240
knowing how to pace myself at least there. So

00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:47.819
Yeah, but it was a great time. It always is just

00:30:47.819 --> 00:30:51.299
recently this this a few weeks ago the Carolina

00:30:51.299 --> 00:30:54.220
Country Music Fest Myrtle Beach, South Carolina

00:30:54.220 --> 00:30:56.619
Yeah. Yeah, I played a couple smaller stages

00:30:56.619 --> 00:30:59.309
there. That was a lot of fun and I went to Myrtle

00:30:59.309 --> 00:31:02.269
Beach in college a number of times on, you know,

00:31:02.450 --> 00:31:05.549
spring break and post exams trips. And so it

00:31:05.549 --> 00:31:07.809
was funny to be back there. That was just a quick

00:31:07.809 --> 00:31:09.890
same day in and out kind of thing. I didn't really

00:31:09.890 --> 00:31:11.309
get to enjoy the festival as much as I wanted

00:31:11.309 --> 00:31:14.170
to. Saw a few other artists there and some other

00:31:14.170 --> 00:31:16.049
friends that I know too that were playing. But

00:31:16.049 --> 00:31:18.529
it was cool. It's always nice to be, any excuse

00:31:18.529 --> 00:31:22.349
to be by the beach is okay with me. So I definitely

00:31:22.349 --> 00:31:24.630
broke out a few of the beach songs because, you

00:31:24.630 --> 00:31:27.859
know, when it went in Rome, as they say. Yeah,

00:31:27.859 --> 00:31:30.579
what do you like to what are there some? Kind

00:31:30.579 --> 00:31:33.119
of island covers of some of the Kenny Chesney

00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:35.480
Jimmy Buffett variety songs that you like to

00:31:35.480 --> 00:31:39.640
play in certain certain locales Yeah, I mean

00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:42.359
definitely Jack Brown stuff like knee -deep.

00:31:42.700 --> 00:31:45.599
I mean margaritaville is always a classic I mean,

00:31:45.619 --> 00:31:48.160
I'm a big Jake big Jake Owen fan. So I like a

00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:49.900
lot of his stuff He has a bunch of beach songs.

00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:52.880
Obviously Kenny does too beer in Mexico is a

00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:55.640
good one I have an original that I love that

00:31:55.640 --> 00:31:58.779
I played out a lot I haven't recorded it, but

00:31:58.779 --> 00:32:01.380
I would like to maybe someday, but I also think

00:32:01.380 --> 00:32:04.539
it very much could be a song that a guy like

00:32:04.539 --> 00:32:07.460
Kenny Chesney or Jake Owen or one of those guys

00:32:07.460 --> 00:32:09.579
could do and it would be really, really awesome

00:32:09.579 --> 00:32:11.640
if they did. It's a beach song. I have a lot

00:32:11.640 --> 00:32:14.380
of beach songs, weirdly enough, but this one

00:32:14.380 --> 00:32:15.799
is one of my favorites called To Beach Their

00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:19.640
Own. And it's just, you know, kind of... Kind

00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:21.319
of what it sounds like, you know, we all we all

00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:22.880
have our beaches that we like and that's okay

00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:24.740
to beach their own But it's it's it's a fun one

00:32:24.740 --> 00:32:27.200
and people people always seem to like it. So

00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:30.759
yeah, that's it. That's a fun one Yeah, I could

00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:33.940
um in some of those songs you named I mean, I

00:32:33.940 --> 00:32:35.619
love Bama Breeze. We were talking about that

00:32:35.619 --> 00:32:38.740
before we got started here Great. Yeah, I actually

00:32:38.740 --> 00:32:40.799
don't know that I've ever played that I've seen

00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:42.559
the writer who wrote one of the writers who wrote

00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:45.140
that marker when I've seen him play it many a

00:32:45.140 --> 00:32:46.819
time here in town and He tells a story about

00:32:46.819 --> 00:32:49.359
it and it's always really cool Just like how

00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:52.059
it got to Jimmy and all that and but I don't

00:32:52.059 --> 00:32:53.900
know that I actually ever played that myself

00:32:53.900 --> 00:32:56.420
I should I should add it to the set because it's

00:32:56.420 --> 00:33:00.680
a great one Jimmy Buffett is I mean Of course

00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:03.640
when he passed away there was a groundswell support

00:33:03.640 --> 00:33:06.240
and everyone posting their their thoughts and

00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:09.299
their favorite songs man I still think about

00:33:09.299 --> 00:33:12.960
Jimmy Buffett love his music and His loss. I

00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:17.609
think is still felt across genres The way absolutely

00:33:17.609 --> 00:33:19.990
there's just like so many ways to carve it up

00:33:19.990 --> 00:33:23.369
the legacy the fun that he had on stage Everyone

00:33:23.369 --> 00:33:25.970
remembers that the smile he's hopping around

00:33:25.970 --> 00:33:28.410
barefoot. He's just having the time of his life

00:33:28.410 --> 00:33:31.950
There was so much more more depth to Jimmy Buffett

00:33:31.950 --> 00:33:33.970
that I think people realize I mean the guy was

00:33:33.970 --> 00:33:37.109
I want to talk about Speaking of well -spoken

00:33:37.109 --> 00:33:39.089
Dan Harrison. I don't think we covered it on

00:33:39.089 --> 00:33:42.150
the first episode That you graduated from Wake

00:33:42.150 --> 00:33:45.599
Forest, but but a double major Want to touch

00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:47.880
on that in a couple minutes here, but but yeah

00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:50.359
your thoughts on on Jimmy Buffett and what he

00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:54.220
meant to you You know, I can't say that I would

00:33:54.220 --> 00:33:59.160
like I grew up die like Springsteen Queen Van

00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:02.980
Halen Who else might think of like John Mayer?

00:34:03.299 --> 00:34:07.519
guys like that so I I certainly loved Jimmy and

00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:10.099
loved his stuff, but I wasn't as Familiar with

00:34:10.099 --> 00:34:11.659
his stuff until a little bit later. It's honestly

00:34:11.659 --> 00:34:15.090
coming to Nashville My respect for him has grown

00:34:15.090 --> 00:34:17.230
immensely and I really do love a lot of his songs

00:34:17.230 --> 00:34:20.110
and he was a great songwriter as well as song

00:34:20.110 --> 00:34:23.110
picker, we like to say. He chose great songs

00:34:23.110 --> 00:34:24.909
to record whether or not he wrote them, which

00:34:24.909 --> 00:34:27.750
is a skill. I mean, all the best guys here in

00:34:27.750 --> 00:34:29.969
town, Kenny, Lee Bryce, Garth Brooks, I mean,

00:34:30.050 --> 00:34:32.050
they are all great songwriters themselves who

00:34:32.050 --> 00:34:35.230
have hits to their name, and they had to be that

00:34:35.230 --> 00:34:38.210
good to know how to pick great songs. So Jimmy,

00:34:38.429 --> 00:34:41.170
I think the more that I've come to, the more

00:34:41.170 --> 00:34:43.340
that I've listen to and learn about Jimmy. I

00:34:43.340 --> 00:34:47.519
think he really feel good music is just all that

00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:50.780
comes to mind. I think the stuff that we just

00:34:50.780 --> 00:34:53.119
think of as cliche that is kind of like that

00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:55.920
island sounding thing, that didn't exist before

00:34:55.920 --> 00:34:58.900
him. It's because he made it so ubiquitous and

00:34:58.900 --> 00:35:01.079
popular. And I think we take that for granted.

00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:05.179
He's the perfect example of music that's just

00:35:05.179 --> 00:35:07.039
made to make people feel good and bring people

00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:10.519
together. There's no agenda behind it. There

00:35:10.519 --> 00:35:13.380
can be a message, but it's simple messages. And

00:35:13.380 --> 00:35:17.599
it really, I think, is the purest and most honest,

00:35:18.099 --> 00:35:20.480
one of the purest and most honest artists and

00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:22.500
catalogs out there in that sense. I think he

00:35:22.500 --> 00:35:26.420
really, he's an artist that I, you know, I think

00:35:26.420 --> 00:35:28.059
you could say just as much as anyone really,

00:35:28.059 --> 00:35:30.760
like, left a mark on the world with their music.

00:35:30.820 --> 00:35:32.380
Because just think about it, I mean, the Margaritaville

00:35:32.380 --> 00:35:34.280
brand, everything that's an extension of Jimmy

00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:37.000
Buffett, he was a billionaire. He built these

00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:38.400
incredible brands. I didn't even know he had

00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:42.119
retirement communities for Margaritaville. He

00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:45.619
created this lifestyle. I think another good

00:35:45.619 --> 00:35:48.099
way to look about it is his fans, his die -hard

00:35:48.099 --> 00:35:50.420
fans are called Parrotheads and you have Deadheads.

00:35:50.739 --> 00:35:55.380
It's that level of dedication and fandom. It

00:35:55.380 --> 00:35:59.500
wasn't just fans of the music. It inspired a

00:35:59.500 --> 00:36:01.059
culture and a way of life. You know what I'm

00:36:01.059 --> 00:36:05.599
talking about? I can't even imagine my music

00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:07.980
having that kind of effect and effect. I would

00:36:07.980 --> 00:36:11.760
love it to, positively, certainly. Just him being

00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:14.639
able to figure that out is really, really incredible.

00:36:15.699 --> 00:36:18.059
So he's just, yeah, there's really few artists

00:36:18.059 --> 00:36:20.119
like him. And it was, I also didn't know that

00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:23.119
he came to Nashville originally and it was like

00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:25.000
him having, it was him leaving Nashville and

00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:28.059
going to Key West and finding that that's where

00:36:28.059 --> 00:36:30.940
he found his niche. But Nashville is still always

00:36:30.940 --> 00:36:34.039
a part of his story and close to his heart. So

00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:36.420
I always thought that was cool, too. I really

00:36:36.420 --> 00:36:38.699
like your thoughts there on Jimmy. Again, if

00:36:38.699 --> 00:36:40.719
there's no Jimmy Buffett, there's probably, you

00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:44.980
know, who knows where Kenny Chesney. Right. Which

00:36:44.980 --> 00:36:48.800
direction his career turns. I apologize for people

00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:50.559
listening or watching. You can hear the daddy

00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:54.619
daddy in the background. Oh, I actually get that.

00:36:54.699 --> 00:36:59.300
So that's one of your fans there, Dan. Yeah,

00:36:59.300 --> 00:37:01.920
I got to mention before we before I forget. I

00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:06.380
mean my boys love dan harrison They and it's

00:37:06.380 --> 00:37:09.579
weird like why it is the we went south guy and

00:37:09.579 --> 00:37:13.159
warren. My oldest is the alameda guy And they

00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:17.659
are latched onto the those are their jams Wow,

00:37:17.880 --> 00:37:22.880
that's that's that's special. I uh I I really

00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:27.280
yeah That's that's really cool But I just wanted

00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:29.969
you know what you're saying there Some of your

00:37:29.969 --> 00:37:32.969
songs also have that quality where it's I don't

00:37:32.969 --> 00:37:36.070
know if you'd call it escapism, but People feel

00:37:36.070 --> 00:37:37.889
better. I think when they listen to some of these

00:37:37.889 --> 00:37:41.789
songs I will always associate we went south with

00:37:41.789 --> 00:37:45.170
the fall the onset of fall For some reason for

00:37:45.170 --> 00:37:48.469
me football season. I know you're playing a tailgate

00:37:48.469 --> 00:37:51.769
in September back at Wake Forest I saw that on

00:37:51.769 --> 00:37:56.070
the website September 14th. Yeah I don't know

00:37:56.070 --> 00:37:58.510
if that's announced yet, but I mean, I put it

00:37:58.510 --> 00:37:59.550
on the website, obviously. I don't know, but

00:37:59.550 --> 00:38:01.550
it hasn't been, I don't know if it's been officially

00:38:01.550 --> 00:38:02.949
announced by weight, but yeah, I'm playing the

00:38:02.949 --> 00:38:04.789
homecoming tailgate there. We're playing Ole

00:38:04.789 --> 00:38:07.230
Miss actually. So that'll be a lot of fun. Yeah.

00:38:07.750 --> 00:38:10.090
I'm excited for that. That'll be a, that'll be

00:38:10.090 --> 00:38:11.969
a perfect place to play. We went south for sure.

00:38:12.949 --> 00:38:15.989
And Dan, I got to say this real quick. Alameda

00:38:15.989 --> 00:38:18.429
is a really special song to me. I feel like this

00:38:18.429 --> 00:38:21.150
is one and folks, if you missed it, it was released

00:38:21.150 --> 00:38:25.010
the top of the year, January, 2024. You really

00:38:25.010 --> 00:38:28.099
flourished on this song, Dan. I think that it's

00:38:28.099 --> 00:38:29.739
almost like you're, well, I don't think you're

00:38:29.739 --> 00:38:31.139
just coming out and saying, look, I could do

00:38:31.139 --> 00:38:34.000
this all day long. I could write songs just like

00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:35.960
this, and this could be all I do. But it's kind

00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:39.059
of showing people, hey, I could do this. If I

00:38:39.059 --> 00:38:43.739
wanted to just write these really deep songs

00:38:43.739 --> 00:38:47.579
where your curiosity really shines through, I

00:38:47.579 --> 00:38:49.519
think you hit one out of the park. I was talking

00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:53.659
to an FM DJ friend. I call him a friend. He's

00:38:53.659 --> 00:38:56.650
a contact in Fort Walton Beach. Said you got

00:38:56.650 --> 00:38:58.449
to listen to this. I'm not telling you got to

00:38:58.449 --> 00:39:02.530
put it in a rotation, but check it out Hope he

00:39:02.530 --> 00:39:04.550
doesn't mind me name dropping here Bo Reynolds

00:39:04.550 --> 00:39:07.650
Highway 98 country said I'll say this Dan It's

00:39:07.650 --> 00:39:10.590
a beautiful song very well written and the production

00:39:10.590 --> 00:39:13.429
is pro level now I didn't stick around to see

00:39:13.429 --> 00:39:16.690
if you put in rotation or not, but Yeah, I'll

00:39:16.690 --> 00:39:18.989
have to check my ASCAP statements if you did

00:39:18.989 --> 00:39:21.630
Yeah, but that's awesome. And actually a good

00:39:21.630 --> 00:39:23.829
buddy of mine who's actually one of the funny

00:39:23.829 --> 00:39:26.119
connection there One of my good buddies from

00:39:26.119 --> 00:39:27.780
college, who's one of the people that really

00:39:27.780 --> 00:39:29.159
introduced me to Eric Church, is actually from

00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:31.820
Fort Walden Beach. So kind of a funny small,

00:39:31.820 --> 00:39:34.219
small circle world there. He's getting, he lives

00:39:34.219 --> 00:39:36.000
in Louisiana now. He's getting married next year.

00:39:36.019 --> 00:39:38.360
I'm going to go to his wedding. So I appreciate

00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:39.800
that. I don't know if we, I guess we haven't

00:39:39.800 --> 00:39:41.739
spoken since Alameda. Yeah. I don't know if I

00:39:41.739 --> 00:39:43.659
told you or you probably saw online, but yeah,

00:39:43.699 --> 00:39:45.920
that song was about my grandma, my mom's mom,

00:39:45.940 --> 00:39:48.360
because she passed sometime during COVID and

00:39:48.360 --> 00:39:50.699
she was from Alameda. That's where she was born.

00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:54.460
and it was just you know I realized after she

00:39:54.460 --> 00:39:56.300
passed like obviously she'd been alive for most

00:39:56.300 --> 00:39:58.739
of my life she was almost 94 like you know lived

00:39:58.739 --> 00:40:01.300
a long time but last couple years were not not

00:40:01.300 --> 00:40:03.760
great but I just realized there wasn't that much

00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:07.039
that I actually knew about her life before certainly

00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:09.500
before I was born and definitely before my mom

00:40:09.500 --> 00:40:12.440
was born like I knew like where she was born

00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:15.880
her parents if she had siblings etc like because

00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:17.559
some of her I think her brother's still alive

00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:20.280
but Yeah, I just realized there wasn't that much

00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:25.059
I know. And about all my grandparents, and even

00:40:25.059 --> 00:40:27.019
my parents to a certain extent, it's just like

00:40:27.019 --> 00:40:28.860
things we just take for granted or don't think

00:40:28.860 --> 00:40:30.900
about. And so that was kind of that song was

00:40:30.900 --> 00:40:33.480
like, man, I wish you were still here. I'd ask

00:40:33.480 --> 00:40:36.380
you all this stuff. And hopefully someday I get

00:40:36.380 --> 00:40:39.579
to. And I think we've all had that feeling with

00:40:39.579 --> 00:40:42.179
someone. So I really appreciate that though.

00:40:42.460 --> 00:40:45.260
That means a lot. Yeah, I took down this in my

00:40:45.260 --> 00:40:47.099
notes too. This may have been on one of your

00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:49.800
One of the reels when that song was released

00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:52.119
the experience of this song has made me want

00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:54.940
to be more vocal in my relationships It's kind

00:40:54.940 --> 00:40:58.380
of like the Cody Johnson song till you can't

00:40:58.380 --> 00:41:00.320
You can only talk to someone about their life

00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:04.920
and experiences until you can't so I just Really

00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:09.960
love that damn Sure. Um, it's true But super

00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:12.920
excited for you here. What's coming next the

00:41:12.920 --> 00:41:15.880
music that's coming out next folks. Check it

00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:18.730
out talking dirty We probably didn't talk enough

00:41:18.730 --> 00:41:20.849
about this song. Let's let's bookend it here

00:41:20.849 --> 00:41:24.250
on talking dirty the video I don't think I mentioned

00:41:24.250 --> 00:41:27.289
this Andrew I'm probably gonna mispronounce this.

00:41:27.289 --> 00:41:30.949
I think I said Alan Schoenfeld. That's Adam Adam

00:41:30.949 --> 00:41:35.829
Adam. Yeah Andrew Capra Yes, produce the video

00:41:35.829 --> 00:41:38.750
No, he's the he produced the rep the song the

00:41:38.750 --> 00:41:42.329
record the video by Grayson Green Yeah, he's

00:41:42.329 --> 00:41:44.329
done. He does a lot of work. He's a great great

00:41:44.329 --> 00:41:46.960
video guy does a lot of great work in town and

00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:48.719
I'm very lucky to work with him so yeah we did

00:41:48.719 --> 00:41:51.440
that was a fun little video that was like just

00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:53.519
a really simple concept we just went like way

00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:57.260
out like 30 miles west of town and found this

00:41:57.260 --> 00:42:01.579
like dirt road and it just like had all the trappings

00:42:01.579 --> 00:42:04.420
of like a country song that you could want like

00:42:04.420 --> 00:42:06.159
visually like there was a cornfield there was

00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:09.860
like water there was dirt roads and we were trying

00:42:09.860 --> 00:42:11.579
to figure out like a simple concept and we're

00:42:11.579 --> 00:42:14.230
like Well, I'm just kind of walking down this

00:42:14.230 --> 00:42:16.690
road and that's cool, but it's just also kind

00:42:16.690 --> 00:42:20.210
of boring. Why don't we do it once, like where

00:42:20.210 --> 00:42:23.789
I'm completely clean. And then I just got really

00:42:23.789 --> 00:42:25.750
dirty and took my shirt off and like rubbed it

00:42:25.750 --> 00:42:27.670
in the mud and put mud all over my face and everything.

00:42:27.989 --> 00:42:30.170
And so we like kind of the full video, which

00:42:30.170 --> 00:42:32.150
isn't out yet, but like it kind of just cuts

00:42:32.150 --> 00:42:33.969
between the clean takes and the dirty takes.

00:42:34.070 --> 00:42:35.989
And we just, we did the exact same thing like

00:42:35.989 --> 00:42:38.550
twice and just had a lot. It was, so that was

00:42:38.550 --> 00:42:45.630
a lot of fun. So. Very very also dirty And even

00:42:45.630 --> 00:42:48.269
in this song it kind of sounds like you know,

00:42:48.289 --> 00:42:50.210
it's a subject in the song if the girl starts

00:42:50.210 --> 00:42:52.769
talking to you Hey, all you got to do is start

00:42:52.769 --> 00:42:54.889
talking dirty But you really still drop in that

00:42:54.889 --> 00:42:58.389
Dan Harrison curiosity in the song. You're still

00:42:58.389 --> 00:43:01.969
interested in in her But yeah, I love the chorus.

00:43:01.989 --> 00:43:03.909
The chorus is gonna stick in your head folks

00:43:03.909 --> 00:43:07.949
play the song after your after you wrap up This

00:43:07.949 --> 00:43:10.530
episode. I'm only talking dirty like a dirt road

00:43:10.530 --> 00:43:13.550
out where no one else goes nothing, but the pines

00:43:13.550 --> 00:43:17.750
far as we can see You're gonna love it and I

00:43:17.750 --> 00:43:19.969
tell this to all my listeners because I have

00:43:19.969 --> 00:43:23.329
I've had guests on the show that Daniel Moralia

00:43:23.329 --> 00:43:27.170
blues artist Dana Wiley from Edmonton, Alberta,

00:43:27.190 --> 00:43:29.409
Canada I'm sure that place is about to erupt

00:43:29.409 --> 00:43:32.090
if they can pull off this upset against the Stanley

00:43:32.090 --> 00:43:34.969
Cup finals That would be crazy. I was actually

00:43:34.969 --> 00:43:38.329
in Canada earlier this week And it was game five

00:43:38.329 --> 00:43:41.010
and they, and they say, and I've just was in

00:43:41.010 --> 00:43:44.130
a random bar and they were, yeah, that was, that

00:43:44.130 --> 00:43:47.869
was crazy. It was time in Canada during the Stanley

00:43:47.869 --> 00:43:52.010
cup and they're like, do or die game five. Yeah.

00:43:52.409 --> 00:43:55.289
But I, I try to cover as many genres as I can.

00:43:55.389 --> 00:43:57.610
I've got some outreach out there that I've, I'm

00:43:57.610 --> 00:44:00.630
still, it's still pending on an R and B guest,

00:44:00.809 --> 00:44:05.869
but I've had Americana folk. I had a metal drummer.

00:44:06.190 --> 00:44:08.469
We've got another indie pop artist coming up.

00:44:08.989 --> 00:44:11.329
But if my guest on any given week, it's like

00:44:11.329 --> 00:44:14.530
not in your wheelhouse. I guarantee you that

00:44:14.530 --> 00:44:17.429
you know somebody who's going to love this sound.

00:44:17.809 --> 00:44:19.829
So keep an open mind, even if you don't think

00:44:19.829 --> 00:44:22.489
that this is your thing. If you've been listening

00:44:22.489 --> 00:44:24.449
to the show, I haven't steered you the wrong

00:44:24.449 --> 00:44:27.269
way yet. So check out Dan Harrison, put it in

00:44:27.269 --> 00:44:30.889
a playlist and wait, especially with football

00:44:30.889 --> 00:44:33.630
season coming up, wait for someone to ask you,

00:44:33.630 --> 00:44:35.510
who is this? Because they're going to do it.

00:44:36.089 --> 00:44:39.710
Mix it in with some Eric Pasley, Eric Church,

00:44:40.650 --> 00:44:43.130
and just drop in Dan Harrison in the middle of

00:44:43.130 --> 00:44:45.449
the playlist. Everyone's gonna hear the songs

00:44:45.449 --> 00:44:46.710
they know, and then they're gonna hear a song

00:44:46.710 --> 00:44:48.289
they're like, I feel like I should know this.

00:44:48.989 --> 00:44:52.150
That's just my commentary, Dan. I really appreciate

00:44:52.150 --> 00:44:55.230
it, Dan, as well. Like that really, that's very

00:44:55.230 --> 00:44:59.510
kind of you. And I mean, if I had, if I had a

00:44:59.510 --> 00:45:01.469
thousand people that, you know, that you probably

00:45:01.469 --> 00:45:04.719
heard of that, a thousand true fans. If I had

00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:07.440
999 other guys, or let's say 997 because you've

00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:11.699
got your sons. So, um, 997 other folks like you,

00:45:11.780 --> 00:45:13.760
I'd be, I'd be doing pretty well. So I really,

00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:16.519
really appreciate it. Well, you got great things

00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:20.260
ahead and, um, love to have you back to talk,

00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:22.579
you know, Dan Harrison, part three, we'll check

00:45:22.579 --> 00:45:25.179
in in 2025, who knows when, but maybe, I mean,

00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:27.599
there's, could be another, some more stories

00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:30.260
and some more singles to talk about. Can't wait

00:45:30.260 --> 00:45:34.030
to watch as your music evolves here, Dan. Appreciate

00:45:34.030 --> 00:45:37.809
it man any time any time absolutely All right.

00:45:37.909 --> 00:45:40.610
Well, that's it for this episode folks. We got

00:45:40.610 --> 00:45:42.750
a they always got to come to an end and as you

00:45:42.750 --> 00:45:46.449
can tell I Don't like to do that Because I want

00:45:46.449 --> 00:45:50.030
these episodes to continue on but anyway, thanks

00:45:50.030 --> 00:45:52.809
Dan for being here and folks check it out Dan

00:45:52.809 --> 00:45:57.369
Harrison go to danharrisonmusic .com and Same

00:45:57.369 --> 00:46:00.550
social media handle. Is that correct? Correct.

00:46:00.730 --> 00:46:03.579
Yeah, Dan Harrison music on all socials except

00:46:03.579 --> 00:46:06.699
for twitter slash x it's dn harrison music dan

00:46:06.699 --> 00:46:08.239
would have the a would have been one character

00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:11.980
too many unfortunately maybe we'll change that

00:46:11.980 --> 00:46:16.239
someday all right man well you guys have a great

00:46:16.239 --> 00:46:18.579
week and we'll see you next sunday on the dan

00:46:18.579 --> 00:46:22.119
time podcast thank you so much dan thank you

00:46:58.349 --> 00:47:01.789
So Warren, what's your favorite Dan Harrison

00:47:01.789 --> 00:47:07.929
song? Alameda. Why do you like Alameda? Because...

00:47:07.929 --> 00:47:09.989
You like the story? Yes.
