WEBVTT 00:00:04.009 --> 00:00:08.050 All right, welcome to episode number 47 of the 00:00:08.050 --> 00:00:12.410 Dan Time podcast. I'm your host, Dan McArdle. 00:00:12.949 --> 00:00:17.190 DanTimePod at gmail .com. Same handle on the 00:00:17.190 --> 00:00:20.309 socials. I appreciate you rating the show. As 00:00:20.309 --> 00:00:24.109 you know, the guests on this show span the vast 00:00:24.109 --> 00:00:29.530 Daniverse. So I don't stop at just Dan. And today, 00:00:30.190 --> 00:00:33.869 such a special episode. featuring Nashville -based 00:00:33.869 --> 00:00:38.969 songstress Danielle Cosby. Her new single entitled 00:00:38.969 --> 00:00:42.750 You comes out in less than two weeks on Friday, 00:00:42.890 --> 00:00:47.409 July 12th. Follow Danielle Cosby Music on Facebook 00:00:47.409 --> 00:00:52.850 and danielle .songstress on Instagram and YouTube. 00:00:53.570 --> 00:00:56.289 Danielle's ambition in this industry led her 00:00:56.289 --> 00:00:59.689 to take on leadership roles in production at 00:00:59.689 --> 00:01:02.409 a young age in Grand Rapids, Michigan, where 00:01:02.409 --> 00:01:05.609 she proved herself in a male dominated field. 00:01:06.150 --> 00:01:09.609 But this time period was also marked by trauma 00:01:09.609 --> 00:01:13.709 and at times turmoil. And she knew a change was 00:01:13.709 --> 00:01:16.469 needed not just for her creative energy, but 00:01:16.469 --> 00:01:19.689 perhaps to save her life. Danielle picked up 00:01:19.689 --> 00:01:22.409 and moved to Nashville four years ago. in the 00:01:22.409 --> 00:01:26.170 middle of a pandemic. Read her inspiring story 00:01:26.170 --> 00:01:30.349 on NashvilleVoyager .com. We talk about her debut 00:01:30.349 --> 00:01:34.790 album from 2019, Detour. Danielle said that she 00:01:34.790 --> 00:01:37.730 wrote Detour while she was still in an abusive 00:01:37.730 --> 00:01:41.250 relationship. Now, Danielle is also an operations 00:01:41.250 --> 00:01:44.129 specialist for Downtown Band Entertainment in 00:01:44.129 --> 00:01:48.090 Nashville, and she works part time as a personal 00:01:48.090 --> 00:01:50.750 assistant and studio manager for Nick Wheeler. 00:01:51.069 --> 00:01:54.349 the lead guitarist for All American Rejects. 00:01:54.689 --> 00:01:56.769 In April of this year, Danielle released the 00:01:56.769 --> 00:01:59.849 single Chameleon, and it marks a departure from 00:01:59.849 --> 00:02:03.209 her earlier sound on the Songstress series. She 00:02:03.209 --> 00:02:07.349 told the Stratton setlist in 2022, I'm ready 00:02:07.349 --> 00:02:10.430 for something lighter and more fun. And boy, 00:02:10.870 --> 00:02:13.569 did she accomplish that. Bringing in talented 00:02:13.569 --> 00:02:17.110 producer Nick Bullock, a horn section, seasoned 00:02:17.110 --> 00:02:21.159 Nashville musicians, and an overall richer sound 00:02:21.159 --> 00:02:24.280 where her voice takes flight. In the opening 00:02:24.280 --> 00:02:28.060 guitar notes, you hear the vintage sound of fingers 00:02:28.060 --> 00:02:31.939 moving along the fretboard and then an airy liftoff 00:02:31.939 --> 00:02:35.780 taking you back to a funkier sound, maybe a bygone 00:02:35.780 --> 00:02:39.659 era, combining modern pop sensibilities with 00:02:39.659 --> 00:02:44.300 Motown and funk elements. And you hear the confidence 00:02:44.300 --> 00:02:47.400 and conviction in Danielle's lyrics. And get 00:02:47.400 --> 00:02:50.840 ready. for more singles and a new LP from Danielle 00:02:50.840 --> 00:02:53.780 Cosby later this year, as she re -enters the 00:02:53.780 --> 00:02:57.080 studio in August, again with producer Nick Bullock. 00:02:57.740 --> 00:03:01.139 The video of this episode is available on the 00:03:01.139 --> 00:03:04.680 Dan TimePod YouTube channel. Okay. Let's get 00:03:04.680 --> 00:03:08.479 to the conversation now. It is Danielle Cosby 00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:13.280 time. Y 'all I am, um, Hey, I just said y 'all. 00:03:13.360 --> 00:03:15.000 That might be the first time that I said y 'all 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:18.520 on this podcast. because i'm outfitting that 00:03:18.520 --> 00:03:22.780 i'm from nashville so yeah i say you'll hear 00:03:22.780 --> 00:03:27.340 me say y 'all a lot i'm sure if you're just joining 00:03:27.340 --> 00:03:31.060 the show i always like new people coming to the 00:03:31.060 --> 00:03:33.300 podcast if it's somebody you've been following 00:03:33.300 --> 00:03:34.860 and you just heard about it you're like oh cool 00:03:34.860 --> 00:03:38.319 i'll check it out um thanks for listening for 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:42.860 watching this project of mine don't tell me how 00:03:42.860 --> 00:03:45.569 i got started or don't ask me how you know Why 00:03:45.569 --> 00:03:48.610 is it Dan time? And you just talk to people with 00:03:48.610 --> 00:03:53.370 the family of names, the Danielle, Daniel, Dana, 00:03:54.069 --> 00:03:56.129 Danny, that just goes on and on. I was actually 00:03:56.129 --> 00:03:58.590 thinking this week about, um, man, if somebody 00:03:58.590 --> 00:04:00.830 listening to the show, if your name is Joe, man, 00:04:00.889 --> 00:04:02.509 you're sitting on a gold mine. You really need 00:04:02.509 --> 00:04:08.250 to consider Joe time because you've got J O, 00:04:08.469 --> 00:04:12.210 Joanne, Joe, Joseph, Josephine. But anyway, so 00:04:12.210 --> 00:04:16.250 I wanted to do an interview show. And I like 00:04:16.250 --> 00:04:18.850 talking to people, always have, asking them about 00:04:18.850 --> 00:04:20.610 their backgrounds and experiences. And I'm like, 00:04:20.629 --> 00:04:22.649 how do I get this thing off the ground? Like, 00:04:22.649 --> 00:04:26.610 I'm not attached to any media backing. And I 00:04:26.610 --> 00:04:30.430 thought, well, that's a good, that's a different 00:04:30.430 --> 00:04:32.889 approach. But I think it comes across to some 00:04:32.889 --> 00:04:36.589 people who see it as, oh, okay, this guy is just 00:04:36.589 --> 00:04:38.730 kind of full of himself. Like it's Dan time. 00:04:39.569 --> 00:04:42.490 But honestly, the show is never about me. The 00:04:42.490 --> 00:04:45.790 focus is always on the guest. and I want to bring 00:04:45.790 --> 00:04:50.589 people to you put them in front of you who I 00:04:50.589 --> 00:04:53.269 think you should you should know about and so 00:04:53.269 --> 00:04:56.509 today I'm really happy we've been talking for 00:04:56.509 --> 00:04:59.209 a few weeks here and got the date lined up Danielle 00:04:59.209 --> 00:05:03.509 Cosby singer -songwriter based in Nashville Tennessee 00:05:03.509 --> 00:05:08.990 originally from Grand Rapids Michigan she's pursuing 00:05:08.990 --> 00:05:13.709 her dreams she's evolving I also Like to use 00:05:13.709 --> 00:05:16.149 that phrase, you know, even though it's Dan time 00:05:16.149 --> 00:05:20.009 And whether that's a Dan or Danielle This is 00:05:20.009 --> 00:05:23.670 not in any old Dan or any old Danielle type of 00:05:23.670 --> 00:05:27.370 I won't have a guest on here just because I really 00:05:27.370 --> 00:05:31.290 like Danielle's biography and her musical journey 00:05:31.290 --> 00:05:35.910 a lot of growth here and Hopefully this is inspiring 00:05:35.910 --> 00:05:40.199 to people Danielle I have to step aside. I got 00:05:40.199 --> 00:05:42.040 to get myself out of the way because I always 00:05:42.040 --> 00:05:44.920 do these intros for 17 minutes before I say, 00:05:44.939 --> 00:05:48.480 hey, thanks for being here. But thanks for being 00:05:48.480 --> 00:05:51.660 here, Danielle. How are you doing today? I'm 00:05:51.660 --> 00:05:54.680 doing really well. It's a beautiful day. We are 00:05:54.680 --> 00:05:57.500 in the midst of Nashville summer, which is 100 00:05:57.500 --> 00:06:00.560 degrees every day. It's pretty miserable, but 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:05.040 it's also beautiful. And yeah, making my way 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:09.399 through a Friday in Nashville, Tennessee. I love 00:06:09.399 --> 00:06:12.620 the music city. I've always had reasons to go 00:06:12.620 --> 00:06:16.360 there. Going back 10 or 15 years, had a cousin 00:06:16.360 --> 00:06:18.420 that lived there. I've had friends live there. 00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:21.439 I've gone up there for tournaments, you know, 00:06:21.560 --> 00:06:23.639 SEC basketball. I remember going to some basketball 00:06:23.639 --> 00:06:26.060 tournaments there, things like that, or concerts. 00:06:27.060 --> 00:06:30.019 I love Nashville. And I always like talking to 00:06:30.019 --> 00:06:32.420 someone who I've had another guest on the show 00:06:32.420 --> 00:06:35.920 that's not originally from Nashville, but you're 00:06:35.920 --> 00:06:40.180 one of those Creatives performers and writers 00:06:40.180 --> 00:06:43.459 and singers and how did you decide that look 00:06:43.459 --> 00:06:46.199 if I want to do this? Maybe Nashville is the 00:06:46.199 --> 00:06:49.620 place for me. I know it was like about four years 00:06:49.620 --> 00:06:52.740 ago We'll talk a little bit about your your early 00:06:52.740 --> 00:06:55.300 background, but like tell me about that crossroads 00:06:55.300 --> 00:06:57.600 where you're like you're in Grand Rapids You've 00:06:57.600 --> 00:06:59.339 actually done a lot. You've got a lot in your 00:06:59.339 --> 00:07:02.720 portfolio and you're thinking this is the time 00:07:02.720 --> 00:07:08.779 only yeah, I I wanted to move to Nashville since 00:07:08.779 --> 00:07:11.139 the first time I ever visited, which I think 00:07:11.139 --> 00:07:15.879 was 2014 maybe. And it felt like the first time 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:18.120 I was ever here, I was like, oh yeah, this is 00:07:18.120 --> 00:07:22.459 where I need to be. It just felt right. And so 00:07:22.459 --> 00:07:26.480 I spent years just kind of dreaming about it. 00:07:26.899 --> 00:07:33.060 And then COVID happened. And in 2020, all my 00:07:33.060 --> 00:07:37.389 gigs went away. All my work went away. My life 00:07:37.389 --> 00:07:41.750 was kind of, you know, up in a big question mark. 00:07:41.949 --> 00:07:44.970 And so I kind of thought to myself like, well, 00:07:45.069 --> 00:07:48.329 I could be quarantined in Grand Rapids or I could 00:07:48.329 --> 00:07:51.449 be quarantined in Nashville. And in a way, COVID 00:07:51.449 --> 00:07:54.850 actually gave me that opportunity to pick my 00:07:54.850 --> 00:07:57.089 life up and move it. Whereas before it was just, 00:07:57.089 --> 00:07:59.389 I was too busy and there were just a million 00:07:59.389 --> 00:08:03.019 other excuses, but. Yeah, so I bit the bullet 00:08:03.019 --> 00:08:06.300 and I did the thing in the middle of a pandemic. 00:08:06.779 --> 00:08:11.040 I was a little bit crazy. I moved with my best 00:08:11.040 --> 00:08:14.139 friend. He was also a little bit crazy and was 00:08:14.139 --> 00:08:17.459 like, yeah, let's do it. Why not? Let's try it. 00:08:18.139 --> 00:08:21.339 And it worked out. Thankfully, it all worked 00:08:21.339 --> 00:08:24.959 well in my favor. But yeah, I got into a point 00:08:24.959 --> 00:08:27.560 where I felt like I kind of climbed to the top 00:08:27.560 --> 00:08:30.310 of the ladder in Grand Rapids. I did. pretty 00:08:30.310 --> 00:08:34.549 much all the things that I could do there on 00:08:34.549 --> 00:08:38.970 my own and I was kind of feeling burnt out and 00:08:38.970 --> 00:08:43.070 you know hitting the glass ceiling so I really 00:08:43.070 --> 00:08:46.470 needed a fresh start in a new city regardless 00:08:46.470 --> 00:08:48.730 of where it was I think even if it wasn't Nashville 00:08:48.730 --> 00:08:52.149 I needed to get out of Grand Rapids which is 00:08:52.149 --> 00:08:54.450 something I think everyone should do at least 00:08:54.450 --> 00:08:57.100 once in their lives. move away from your hometown 00:08:57.100 --> 00:09:00.980 and experience what's happening outside of your 00:09:00.980 --> 00:09:03.419 little boundary that you've never known anything 00:09:03.419 --> 00:09:06.879 outside of. So yeah, I'm really grateful that 00:09:06.879 --> 00:09:12.539 it all worked well for me. I love it here. And 00:09:12.539 --> 00:09:15.600 yeah, things are going really well. Well, I think 00:09:15.600 --> 00:09:18.299 that took some courage back then. Like you said, 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:22.139 not only is it a big life change, But the pandemic's 00:09:22.139 --> 00:09:23.720 been going on for a few months. I think this 00:09:23.720 --> 00:09:28.179 is like the summer of 2020. Yeah, yeah. So I 00:09:28.179 --> 00:09:32.600 actually had originally planned to spend a month 00:09:32.600 --> 00:09:36.940 in Nashville before we knew about COVID and what 00:09:36.940 --> 00:09:39.360 was going to be happening with COVID. So I had 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:43.919 an Airbnb booked for the month of April in Nashville 00:09:43.919 --> 00:09:46.580 just by myself. I was planning to come and scope 00:09:46.580 --> 00:09:50.360 it out and, you know, try to get a feel for the 00:09:50.360 --> 00:09:55.120 city. And then when everything hit, I had to 00:09:55.120 --> 00:09:58.259 cancel or that Airbnb just got canceled. Everything 00:09:58.259 --> 00:10:00.580 got canceled. But I was like, you know what, 00:10:00.779 --> 00:10:03.820 I really just, regardless of any big, I want 00:10:03.820 --> 00:10:06.419 to get away from Grand Rapids. So I was able 00:10:06.419 --> 00:10:11.519 to rebook an Airbnb in May of 2020 for like half 00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:14.740 the price, because obviously these Airbnbs were 00:10:14.740 --> 00:10:17.759 like, we need someone to come give us money. 00:10:17.820 --> 00:10:21.690 So I got like a super cheap rental in downtown 00:10:21.690 --> 00:10:26.110 Nashville for the month of May in 2020, came 00:10:26.110 --> 00:10:28.929 here, just spent the month by myself, which was 00:10:28.929 --> 00:10:31.629 like really therapeutic in a lot of ways and 00:10:31.629 --> 00:10:34.690 really good for me. And then while I was there, 00:10:35.490 --> 00:10:39.029 while I was here, I started looking at housing 00:10:39.029 --> 00:10:44.450 options and serendipitously met the, who ended 00:10:44.450 --> 00:10:47.960 up being my landlord. She owned a little boutique 00:10:47.960 --> 00:10:51.679 in one of the suburbs of Nashville and I went 00:10:51.679 --> 00:10:53.879 into her store one day and started talking with 00:10:53.879 --> 00:10:56.840 her and told her that I wanted to move here and 00:10:56.840 --> 00:10:59.639 she was like, you're gonna think I'm crazy, but 00:10:59.639 --> 00:11:03.500 my husband and I just bought this house and we're 00:11:03.500 --> 00:11:05.820 gonna be renting it out. It hasn't even been 00:11:05.820 --> 00:11:08.480 put on the market yet. Here's the address, drive 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:11.059 by. If you like it, let me know and it's yours. 00:11:12.529 --> 00:11:15.429 And so I got back in my car, I told my best friend, 00:11:15.529 --> 00:11:17.750 I was like, I think I found where we're gonna 00:11:17.750 --> 00:11:20.009 live and I met our landlord. She was like, what 00:11:20.009 --> 00:11:25.149 is going on? And sure enough, it was like the 00:11:25.149 --> 00:11:29.450 cutest little house. And Jacqueline, my friend 00:11:29.450 --> 00:11:32.090 and I came back the next month and got to see 00:11:32.090 --> 00:11:35.409 the inside of it, tour the inside, met our landlords 00:11:35.409 --> 00:11:39.049 and it was just like so meant to be. Signed a 00:11:39.049 --> 00:11:43.529 lease and Moved in July officially in July of 00:11:43.529 --> 00:11:47.549 2020 So it was a whirlwind but it was all just 00:11:47.549 --> 00:11:50.370 like so meant to be and lined up so perfectly 00:11:50.370 --> 00:11:54.289 I love it and during this time so you get to 00:11:54.289 --> 00:11:56.289 Nashville you start writing some music or maybe 00:11:56.289 --> 00:11:59.750 you've had some ideas But was it in Grand Rapids 00:11:59.750 --> 00:12:03.610 where you wrote? Recorded and released your first 00:12:03.610 --> 00:12:09.889 LP detour Yes, yeah. So I released Detour in 00:12:09.889 --> 00:12:14.950 May of 2019. So kind of just before everything 00:12:14.950 --> 00:12:18.210 hit the fan. So I didn't even really get much 00:12:18.210 --> 00:12:21.549 of an opportunity to do anything with my album 00:12:21.549 --> 00:12:24.350 or my original music in Grand Rapids before the 00:12:24.350 --> 00:12:27.389 pandemic hit. So it's kind of a weird time. But 00:12:27.389 --> 00:12:30.409 yeah, so I released that one in 2019 and then 00:12:30.919 --> 00:12:34.759 Shortly after I moved to Nashville, I released 00:12:34.759 --> 00:12:39.379 a few singles that I recorded here Yeah, the 00:12:39.379 --> 00:12:43.899 the songstress series. Yeah better people Bottle 00:12:43.899 --> 00:12:47.679 up you and growing Yeah, which I noticed Danielle 00:12:47.679 --> 00:12:50.220 on your website if people go to Danielle cosby 00:12:50.220 --> 00:12:54.039 .com You still have the the clothing line with 00:12:54.039 --> 00:13:00.070 some of these some of that artwork T -shirts 00:13:00.070 --> 00:13:04.350 tote bags maybe it's okay to even in the summertime 00:13:04.350 --> 00:13:06.950 to stock up on your long sleeves your hoodies 00:13:06.950 --> 00:13:11.730 and Sweatshirts I do think that's cool that when 00:13:11.730 --> 00:13:14.950 an artist makes available and also digital downloads, 00:13:14.970 --> 00:13:18.990 but makes available like a merch section Yeah, 00:13:19.029 --> 00:13:22.269 yeah, and I so I I created the artwork for all 00:13:22.269 --> 00:13:26.389 the songstress series Releases and I actually 00:13:26.389 --> 00:13:30.159 was selling art print of those three designs 00:13:30.159 --> 00:13:34.039 to kind of help fund the recording effort. And 00:13:34.039 --> 00:13:37.779 so I was sending out art prints and little handwritten 00:13:37.779 --> 00:13:40.720 cards and stuff and then eventually graduated 00:13:40.720 --> 00:13:43.960 to more of the merch section on the website. 00:13:44.879 --> 00:13:48.879 Wow, that's really cool. Again, I would order 00:13:48.879 --> 00:13:50.899 something like that or encourage my listeners 00:13:50.899 --> 00:13:54.100 because likely in your town, you'll be the only 00:13:54.100 --> 00:13:57.070 one and then it starts up a conversation. Who 00:13:57.070 --> 00:14:00.570 is that or what is that and um, hey, I'm a big 00:14:00.570 --> 00:14:04.629 fan of Wearing shirts or carrying around something 00:14:04.629 --> 00:14:06.929 with an emblem on it that you're not you don't 00:14:06.929 --> 00:14:09.649 know a hundred percent Daniel Cosby's catalog, 00:14:09.690 --> 00:14:12.429 but you like the design and You're getting started 00:14:12.429 --> 00:14:16.730 on it. So yeah, I think that's really cool So 00:14:16.730 --> 00:14:21.490 before we get to the new single chameleon Which 00:14:21.490 --> 00:14:23.149 I've been spinning around like over and over 00:14:23.149 --> 00:14:25.710 again. I really like this song but I think it's 00:14:25.710 --> 00:14:28.830 important like go back to uh and not take a lot 00:14:28.830 --> 00:14:31.549 of time talking about this but the detour album 00:14:31.549 --> 00:14:33.750 danielle this is some pretty heavy stuff like 00:14:33.750 --> 00:14:38.190 it's um you can tell where it's like biographical 00:14:38.190 --> 00:14:43.009 sometimes it's directed towards a former partner 00:14:43.009 --> 00:14:47.690 and like like some songs like this position i 00:14:47.690 --> 00:14:50.070 love pitch ain't perfect that might be my favorite 00:14:50.070 --> 00:14:55.639 song on there oh yeah I think I think like pitch 00:14:55.639 --> 00:15:00.059 ain't perfect is if someone has creative Energy 00:15:00.059 --> 00:15:01.759 and they want to put something out there. I think 00:15:01.759 --> 00:15:06.139 that's reassuring to them The lyrics are and 00:15:06.139 --> 00:15:09.379 yeah talk about maybe your Some songs that still 00:15:09.379 --> 00:15:11.259 I know you've kind of moved on to a different 00:15:11.259 --> 00:15:13.820 or your sound has evolved But do you have some 00:15:13.820 --> 00:15:16.279 tracks from that record that are still pretty 00:15:16.279 --> 00:15:20.840 near and dear to you? For sure. I mean everything 00:15:20.840 --> 00:15:23.490 i'm right I think will always be near and dear 00:15:23.490 --> 00:15:29.730 to me. It ebbs and flows and comes in seasons 00:15:29.730 --> 00:15:32.870 I'd say when I like there are some times or there 00:15:32.870 --> 00:15:37.509 have been some times where I can't even listen 00:15:37.509 --> 00:15:41.549 to detour. It's just it either is like hitting 00:15:41.549 --> 00:15:44.830 too close to home or it's just bringing stuff 00:15:44.830 --> 00:15:48.090 up that I am not ready to revisit because it's 00:15:48.090 --> 00:15:51.279 such a you know, you're really wearing your heart 00:15:51.279 --> 00:15:55.159 on your sleeve as a songwriter. And I did not 00:15:55.159 --> 00:15:58.320 hold back. I mean, I never hold back in my songwriting, 00:15:58.659 --> 00:16:03.860 but yeah. So I would say in this current season 00:16:03.860 --> 00:16:07.779 of my life, I have so much appreciation and love 00:16:07.779 --> 00:16:11.360 for the whole detour album, the songs that I 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:15.860 think. I still go back to and have carried over 00:16:15.860 --> 00:16:19.679 into kind of this new genre that I'm kind of 00:16:19.679 --> 00:16:23.740 putting myself in are, I Can't Tell You is one 00:16:23.740 --> 00:16:26.960 that kind of fits into this new vibe that I've 00:16:26.960 --> 00:16:30.379 got going on. It's one of my favorites. And obviously 00:16:30.379 --> 00:16:33.360 Detour. I love the groove of that song, I Can't 00:16:33.360 --> 00:16:38.820 Tell You. Yeah, thanks. Yeah, so when I did my... 00:16:39.070 --> 00:16:42.850 my release party for chameleon. The songs that 00:16:42.850 --> 00:16:46.190 I played off of detour were detour, I can't tell 00:16:46.190 --> 00:16:49.269 you and pitching perfect. I pulled it up here. 00:16:49.269 --> 00:16:51.470 I think this is from, from your bandcamp page, 00:16:51.669 --> 00:16:54.629 but going back to pitch ain't perfect. Cause 00:16:54.629 --> 00:16:56.769 this is really stands out. I just love this. 00:16:56.870 --> 00:16:58.470 Like people, I think sometimes they're afraid 00:16:58.470 --> 00:17:03.190 to, to just hit start, press play, put something 00:17:03.190 --> 00:17:06.569 out there. And I get it. It's like, it's, it's 00:17:06.569 --> 00:17:10.119 very easy to be self critical. especially if 00:17:10.119 --> 00:17:13.480 you've got something that you like to work on 00:17:13.480 --> 00:17:15.460 or an instrument that you like to play or you 00:17:15.460 --> 00:17:17.339 like to write poetry, but you don't want anybody 00:17:17.339 --> 00:17:20.119 to see it. You don't want anybody to hear it, 00:17:20.380 --> 00:17:23.319 but where you say, I think this is the chorus, 00:17:23.380 --> 00:17:25.359 I can paint all the pictures, I can sing all 00:17:25.359 --> 00:17:27.480 the songs, I can write all the poems, I've been 00:17:27.480 --> 00:17:29.700 dreaming all along, but when it comes down to 00:17:29.700 --> 00:17:32.200 it, sometimes my pitch ain't perfect, but I'd 00:17:32.200 --> 00:17:34.940 rather sing out of tune than to never sing at 00:17:34.940 --> 00:17:39.420 all. And people, please let me... Reinforce it. 00:17:39.619 --> 00:17:41.980 That's me speaking it. That's not how she sings 00:17:41.980 --> 00:17:48.079 it. She thinks it much better than that So but 00:17:48.079 --> 00:17:50.759 that was really cool and then yeah this position 00:17:50.759 --> 00:17:54.759 is Again gosh, it's like almost like you had 00:17:54.759 --> 00:17:58.180 to get those words on paper To put that chapter 00:17:58.180 --> 00:18:02.099 behind you. I Love the song stop. I mean, that's 00:18:02.099 --> 00:18:05.109 a really good song, too. If If you guys go to 00:18:05.109 --> 00:18:07.349 the YouTube page, you can still see some live 00:18:07.349 --> 00:18:11.809 performances of these songs Yeah, thanks. Thanks 00:18:11.809 --> 00:18:15.009 for the shout out So let's um, I always like 00:18:15.009 --> 00:18:17.430 to jump around a little bit and not stay exactly 00:18:17.430 --> 00:18:19.190 on the timeline We'll talk a little bit about 00:18:19.190 --> 00:18:22.309 the songstress series. But yeah, let's talk about 00:18:22.309 --> 00:18:25.829 chameleon Released in April this year I guess 00:18:25.829 --> 00:18:27.730 what's the reaction been when you play it live 00:18:27.730 --> 00:18:30.630 because you're bringing in like is this a five 00:18:30.630 --> 00:18:34.619 piece horn section You've got guitar, bass, drums. 00:18:35.940 --> 00:18:38.980 Yeah. When we did it live, it was a five -piece 00:18:38.980 --> 00:18:42.279 section. Recorded it with a three -piece section 00:18:42.279 --> 00:18:46.119 with a couple of them doing multiple parts. So 00:18:46.119 --> 00:18:48.839 there's even more than five on the recording. 00:18:49.599 --> 00:18:54.019 I'm so grateful to know and be close with some 00:18:54.019 --> 00:18:57.480 of the best musicians in the land here in Nashville, 00:18:57.660 --> 00:19:00.440 and that includes horn players. I've got a ton 00:19:00.440 --> 00:19:03.149 of close friends that are just... incredible 00:19:03.149 --> 00:19:06.029 horn players and arrangers and writers. So my 00:19:06.029 --> 00:19:09.549 good friend, Jovan, wrote the part for all of 00:19:09.549 --> 00:19:11.549 my, all the horn parts for all my new stuff. 00:19:11.950 --> 00:19:16.589 He wrote and arranged and executed. And yeah, 00:19:16.630 --> 00:19:19.250 so much fun. I like the more horns, the better 00:19:19.250 --> 00:19:22.289 in my opinion. Can never have too many horns. 00:19:24.210 --> 00:19:26.369 And I want to bring out, I think it's the second 00:19:26.369 --> 00:19:28.789 verse, because this is one of my favorite parts 00:19:28.789 --> 00:19:31.829 of the song. I think we start out complicated, 00:19:32.009 --> 00:19:34.349 I got too much to say just to start saying it 00:19:34.349 --> 00:19:37.250 fabricated And then what that that part where 00:19:37.250 --> 00:19:39.930 you really let your vocals flourish. I lived 00:19:39.930 --> 00:19:43.309 a lie time to start opening eyes And it goes 00:19:43.309 --> 00:19:45.789 on, you know, why do I keep coming back? I've 00:19:45.789 --> 00:19:47.609 been paving the way but keep losing track of 00:19:47.609 --> 00:19:51.410 it. I'm over it. I'm done I'm feeling like a 00:19:51.410 --> 00:19:55.329 chameleon and Yeah, but that you guys listening 00:19:55.329 --> 00:19:57.670 to the show I'm perfectly fine if you pause this 00:19:57.670 --> 00:20:00.910 if you stop this and you download chameleon and 00:20:00.920 --> 00:20:02.920 listen to what I'm talking about here. Cause 00:20:02.920 --> 00:20:05.720 you must have, when that came out in the studio, 00:20:05.720 --> 00:20:09.359 when you were trying out, um, different vocal 00:20:09.359 --> 00:20:11.859 pitches, or I'm not saying this as well as I 00:20:11.859 --> 00:20:15.160 could, but that really is a great example. I 00:20:15.160 --> 00:20:18.480 think of how your, um, songwriting has evolved 00:20:18.480 --> 00:20:23.680 and your vocals. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Were 00:20:23.680 --> 00:20:27.099 you excited when that part came to you? For sure. 00:20:27.279 --> 00:20:30.140 Yeah. Anything that's got like. something that 00:20:30.140 --> 00:20:34.720 you know is going to catch attention of not even 00:20:34.720 --> 00:20:39.220 just anybody, but what really gets me excited 00:20:39.220 --> 00:20:41.200 is when I come up with something that I know 00:20:41.200 --> 00:20:43.200 is going to catch the attention of my musician 00:20:43.200 --> 00:20:46.500 friends. I want to be cool to my musician friends. 00:20:46.500 --> 00:20:50.539 So if I've accomplished that, then all is well. 00:20:51.180 --> 00:20:53.859 So little moments like that are something that 00:20:53.859 --> 00:20:56.839 I'm always trying to incorporate and create in 00:20:56.839 --> 00:21:00.759 my music to keep. To keep everybody engaged. 00:21:01.940 --> 00:21:04.960 Yeah, it sounds like on Chameleon that your sound 00:21:04.960 --> 00:21:08.740 is developing, progressing, and you want to add 00:21:08.740 --> 00:21:10.579 some additional layers that maybe weren't there 00:21:10.579 --> 00:21:14.500 before. It's looking at some of your influences, 00:21:14.680 --> 00:21:18.299 Motown, Funk, the Doobie Brothers, Hall and Oates. 00:21:18.559 --> 00:21:20.339 I can actually, the first time I heard this, 00:21:20.539 --> 00:21:23.980 because my mom's a big fan of some of the artists 00:21:23.980 --> 00:21:28.019 from the early to mid 70s. Cross genres and I'm 00:21:28.019 --> 00:21:29.500 like this sounds like something you might hear 00:21:29.500 --> 00:21:32.880 if you were walking down City streets some city 00:21:32.880 --> 00:21:35.740 center in that time period, you know playing 00:21:35.740 --> 00:21:37.880 in the distance or coming out of a club or something 00:21:37.880 --> 00:21:41.200 It was like I think you like achieve this real 00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:45.920 throwback feel on that song Thanks. Thank you. 00:21:45.920 --> 00:21:51.900 Yeah, I I agree. I think it has a real like vintage 00:21:51.900 --> 00:21:57.670 or retro vibe to it, even like the way the instruments 00:21:57.670 --> 00:22:00.710 are playing and the way that it was produced. 00:22:01.369 --> 00:22:03.549 I feel like we created this really cool pocket 00:22:03.549 --> 00:22:07.230 of like vintage pop. That's not just your run 00:22:07.230 --> 00:22:10.690 of the mill. And it can fit in a lot of subcategories, 00:22:10.769 --> 00:22:15.170 which I've been really digging. Yeah, it's, I 00:22:15.170 --> 00:22:18.470 think that music and pop music in general for 00:22:18.470 --> 00:22:20.730 maybe about three to four years, I don't know 00:22:20.730 --> 00:22:23.420 exactly how long. but it's not always as fun 00:22:23.420 --> 00:22:25.599 as it used to be. It does, it sometimes sounds 00:22:25.599 --> 00:22:29.019 more foreboding than it was in years past. It's 00:22:29.019 --> 00:22:30.960 kind of like, I don't know if you agree with 00:22:30.960 --> 00:22:34.079 this or not, but yeah, there's songs that they 00:22:34.079 --> 00:22:38.019 just don't, they address something that maybe, 00:22:38.140 --> 00:22:39.660 oh yeah, I connect with that. I went through 00:22:39.660 --> 00:22:41.279 something like that. That she's singing about 00:22:41.279 --> 00:22:43.000 something I went through. But when the song ends, 00:22:43.079 --> 00:22:45.619 you don't really feel any better than you did 00:22:45.619 --> 00:22:48.740 before the song started. And like this chameleon 00:22:48.740 --> 00:22:52.599 is Yeah, it just has so much more flavor to it. 00:22:52.599 --> 00:22:56.440 Thank you. I like to think so now. Are you always 00:22:56.440 --> 00:23:00.559 writing? new material do you kind of have periods 00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:03.059 where you're like, okay, I'm gonna focus on just 00:23:03.059 --> 00:23:08.740 writing or Just performing. Yeah It's really 00:23:08.740 --> 00:23:13.460 hard for me to Force myself into a creative space 00:23:13.460 --> 00:23:16.359 with writing it really has to come naturally 00:23:16.359 --> 00:23:22.990 and genuinely so I try to honor that when I can, 00:23:23.150 --> 00:23:26.710 like when I'm really feeling the itch or, you 00:23:26.710 --> 00:23:28.829 know, if I've got like a melody or a line in 00:23:28.829 --> 00:23:31.890 my head, I really try to flush it out as soon 00:23:31.890 --> 00:23:34.750 as possible before I forget about it. Or at least 00:23:34.750 --> 00:23:37.910 like record the idea and then move on. I have 00:23:37.910 --> 00:23:41.109 been living in a state of writing quite a bit 00:23:41.109 --> 00:23:45.190 this year, finishing up more songs and eventually 00:23:45.190 --> 00:23:48.000 a full album, so. I'm definitely in the thick 00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:52.700 of it with writing currently. It definitely comes 00:23:52.700 --> 00:23:56.980 in waves for me. So after this, I probably will 00:23:56.980 --> 00:24:01.640 need a break from writing. And that's okay too. 00:24:02.740 --> 00:24:05.759 Yeah. Last year, if I had this right, you did 00:24:05.759 --> 00:24:09.339 some collaborations with Jordan Finn. Yeah. Yeah. 00:24:09.359 --> 00:24:12.680 And Jordan actually is originally from Michigan 00:24:12.680 --> 00:24:16.039 as well. So he's someone that I knew from back 00:24:16.039 --> 00:24:20.890 home. and he just moved to Nashville maybe 18 00:24:20.890 --> 00:24:24.130 months ago, year and a half, two years ago, and 00:24:24.130 --> 00:24:28.069 has given it a go as a full -time producer. So 00:24:28.069 --> 00:24:31.930 we collaborated on a few tunes and we still try 00:24:31.930 --> 00:24:35.849 to collaborate whenever we can for think stuff 00:24:35.849 --> 00:24:39.549 and any other ideas that come to mind. So yeah, 00:24:39.789 --> 00:24:43.009 I actually originally knew him as a guitar player 00:24:43.009 --> 00:24:47.960 and now he's full -time Production and he's killing 00:24:47.960 --> 00:24:50.099 it. He's doing great. He does a lot of great 00:24:50.099 --> 00:24:54.000 work Yeah, the single as it was I think that's 00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:59.079 december of 22 To me that one is it's really 00:24:59.079 --> 00:25:03.059 catchy I think it kind of positions you into 00:25:03.059 --> 00:25:05.380 like these are more more in the dance genre. 00:25:05.819 --> 00:25:09.019 Mm Yep. Yeah the a couple of them so we've done 00:25:09.019 --> 00:25:12.000 a couple covers like as it was the harry styles 00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:17.339 cover and then the two kind of like Techno pop 00:25:17.339 --> 00:25:21.539 dance club style songs that we did like really 00:25:21.539 --> 00:25:26.339 took off Never coming back and I'm in love and 00:25:26.339 --> 00:25:28.240 those are both super fun They're like really 00:25:28.240 --> 00:25:31.500 great summer about well Danielle you brought 00:25:31.500 --> 00:25:34.519 a background with you to Nashville You did some 00:25:34.519 --> 00:25:36.799 stuff in Grand Rapids with the Circle Theatre 00:25:36.799 --> 00:25:41.119 concert series production work Do you look at 00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:43.799 some of those experiences that prepared you to 00:25:43.799 --> 00:25:47.440 handle some of these? big moments or how do you 00:25:47.440 --> 00:25:52.440 feel now about your past work? Yeah, I mean everything 00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:56.779 that I've gone through obviously has helped prepare 00:25:56.779 --> 00:26:00.339 me for where I'm at now and where I'll be in 00:26:00.339 --> 00:26:03.799 the future. I'm really grateful for the opportunities 00:26:03.799 --> 00:26:07.900 that I had in Grand Rapids and I kind of found 00:26:07.900 --> 00:26:11.319 myself in a leadership role pretty early on like 00:26:11.319 --> 00:26:15.240 fresh out of high school. leading, producing, 00:26:16.039 --> 00:26:21.440 performing, which obviously came with its own 00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:27.299 obstacles, being a young female in charge. But 00:26:27.299 --> 00:26:30.599 now I think that it's, I'm still a young female 00:26:30.599 --> 00:26:33.440 in charge, but I don't, I don't feel the stigma 00:26:33.440 --> 00:26:37.500 of it anymore. I think I've like, I'm over, I'm 00:26:37.500 --> 00:26:40.000 over that, or I don't know, maybe, maybe Chameleon 00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:42.220 comes into play, I'm over it. I don't know, but. 00:26:43.850 --> 00:26:47.289 But I think that all of those experiences helped 00:26:47.289 --> 00:26:50.150 prepare me to be the leader that I can be today 00:26:50.150 --> 00:26:54.369 as far as management and all that stuff goes. 00:26:54.670 --> 00:26:57.589 And then kind of same with performing. I mean, 00:26:57.609 --> 00:27:00.849 I've been performing in a professional capacity 00:27:00.849 --> 00:27:04.309 since I was a teenager. So I feel like I kind 00:27:04.309 --> 00:27:09.670 of got a leg up on some people at a similar age 00:27:09.670 --> 00:27:12.000 as me. I didn't go to college. I mean, I did 00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:13.940 go to college for one year and went to community 00:27:13.940 --> 00:27:17.619 college in Grand Rapids. But that was all I did. 00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:20.720 I didn't go to school for four years for music. 00:27:20.920 --> 00:27:23.299 I just I was like already doing it professionally. 00:27:23.299 --> 00:27:27.279 So I just kind of dove into that. And I'm thankful 00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:30.619 that it worked well for me. And I'm also really 00:27:30.619 --> 00:27:34.220 grateful that I'm not in any college debt. Yes, 00:27:34.339 --> 00:27:38.400 that's a big albatross for so many people, unfortunately, 00:27:38.660 --> 00:27:44.049 but right. Yeah Now so if you want to read about 00:27:44.049 --> 00:27:45.650 Danielle, there's some a really good article 00:27:45.650 --> 00:27:49.210 here from the Stratton set list waiting to exhale 00:27:49.210 --> 00:27:53.509 So they really give you a great bio on Danielle 00:27:53.509 --> 00:27:58.109 here. I understand you were Your family or your 00:27:58.109 --> 00:28:01.950 musical journey Growing up it started in a musical 00:28:01.950 --> 00:28:06.450 family Learning piano as a small child. So that 00:28:06.450 --> 00:28:08.740 was always like part of the picture right like 00:28:08.740 --> 00:28:12.140 music was being played in the house in the car 00:28:12.140 --> 00:28:16.059 and church definitely yes i grew up in a very 00:28:16.059 --> 00:28:19.900 musical family my dad was a trumpet major my 00:28:19.900 --> 00:28:23.680 mom was a piano major my dad was a worship pastor 00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:27.339 at a church until i was 15 or 16 so i grew up 00:28:27.339 --> 00:28:30.119 singing in the church and lead it leading the 00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:33.650 youth group band and My mom was the accompanist, 00:28:33.829 --> 00:28:36.289 piano accompanist for all of the schools that 00:28:36.289 --> 00:28:38.650 I went to growing up. She actually started at 00:28:38.650 --> 00:28:40.390 the public school when she was pregnant with 00:28:40.390 --> 00:28:43.410 me. So through all the players that I was in, 00:28:43.569 --> 00:28:45.410 middle school through high school, my mom was 00:28:45.410 --> 00:28:49.869 the accompanist. And then my siblings are musical 00:28:49.869 --> 00:28:52.910 and married into musical families. And there's 00:28:52.910 --> 00:28:56.309 lots of band teachers and all of that good stuff. 00:28:56.369 --> 00:29:00.369 So it's really unavoidable in our household. 00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:04.660 the music yeah i was gonna say like you didn't 00:29:04.660 --> 00:29:06.759 stand a chance you're you're gonna play an instrument 00:29:06.759 --> 00:29:11.779 i really didn't i found a i was going through 00:29:11.779 --> 00:29:15.119 some things from my childhood a while back and 00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:17.420 i found something from i don't know first or 00:29:17.420 --> 00:29:19.960 second grade but you know they ask you what do 00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:23.299 you want to be when you grow up and my answer 00:29:23.299 --> 00:29:28.490 was that i wanted to be in the wnba like Even 00:29:28.490 --> 00:29:31.109 second grade Danielle knew there was no chance 00:29:31.109 --> 00:29:33.849 I was not gonna grow up to be a basketball player. 00:29:33.849 --> 00:29:40.029 The only option was music for me. I Think you 00:29:40.029 --> 00:29:43.109 followed the right path for sure. I think so 00:29:43.109 --> 00:29:47.329 too Daniel let's talk. I don't always ask singer 00:29:47.329 --> 00:29:49.230 songwriters. I wish I would do this more often, 00:29:49.230 --> 00:29:53.549 but let's talk about The gigs the performances 00:29:53.549 --> 00:29:56.190 getting ready for them. How much fun do you have 00:29:56.190 --> 00:29:58.859 trying to decide? How big of a production are 00:29:58.859 --> 00:30:01.220 we gonna make this the items that you choose 00:30:01.220 --> 00:30:04.400 to wear the way that you try to package that 00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:07.900 visual Daniel Cosby performance. Is that fun? 00:30:07.980 --> 00:30:11.359 Is it is it gonna be stressful at times? Yes, 00:30:11.420 --> 00:30:15.039 and yes so fun. I mean there's really nothing 00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:20.000 that be fit. I think probably any Performing 00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:22.039 singer -songwriter would tell you the same that 00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:24.819 that's like the ultimate feeling that we're trying 00:30:24.819 --> 00:30:29.089 to chase is performing your original music. I'm 00:30:29.089 --> 00:30:34.089 lucky that I have a lot of experience with production 00:30:34.089 --> 00:30:39.069 and song selection and flow of setlist and things 00:30:39.069 --> 00:30:41.890 from my other jobs. I'm a full -time performer 00:30:41.890 --> 00:30:45.509 with a traveling wedding band, so I'm always 00:30:45.509 --> 00:30:48.589 performing, I'm always on stages, and I also 00:30:48.589 --> 00:30:54.210 create the products. So I'm fortunate to have 00:30:54.210 --> 00:30:57.160 an understanding of you know like don't put too 00:30:57.160 --> 00:30:59.980 many slow songs in a set like how to keep people's 00:30:59.980 --> 00:31:02.779 interest in the flow and the keys and how they 00:31:02.779 --> 00:31:05.240 all like work together and this would be a good 00:31:05.240 --> 00:31:07.539 moment to talk a little bit while the band's 00:31:07.539 --> 00:31:11.700 vamping and so I'm grateful for my musical background 00:31:11.700 --> 00:31:14.539 and also just like my knowledge in the industry 00:31:14.539 --> 00:31:20.400 on how to create an experience that's selfless. 00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:22.839 There has to be a good balance of being selfish 00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:26.509 and selfless as an original artist If it was 00:31:26.509 --> 00:31:28.369 all one or the other, I don't think it would 00:31:28.369 --> 00:31:31.869 translate to a crowd. Obviously your audience 00:31:31.869 --> 00:31:34.369 wants to feel like they're a part of what's happening. 00:31:35.369 --> 00:31:39.509 But then as a performer, you really want to feel 00:31:39.509 --> 00:31:41.950 good about what you're performing. So there's 00:31:41.950 --> 00:31:45.529 like a very delicate balance, but it's always 00:31:45.529 --> 00:31:48.750 fun. I love the entire process from the setlist 00:31:48.750 --> 00:31:54.759 to the rehearsing to the outfit, all of it. It's 00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:58.960 all really enjoyable for me. And your day -to 00:31:58.960 --> 00:32:03.579 -day like with downtown band entertainment? Yeah, 00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:07.839 so that's my full -time job. The premiere, luxury, 00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:10.240 wedding, corporate events, entertainment company. 00:32:10.339 --> 00:32:13.619 We've got multiple products, all live music. 00:32:13.930 --> 00:32:17.069 We have a blast. We have a really great team, 00:32:17.309 --> 00:32:20.769 full -time staff team. And most of the team is 00:32:20.769 --> 00:32:23.990 also performers as well. So I get to be on staff 00:32:23.990 --> 00:32:26.650 full -time and perform pretty much full -time 00:32:26.650 --> 00:32:30.529 as well. So it's really fun. We travel all over. 00:32:30.890 --> 00:32:34.609 We're doing like the top tier events that really 00:32:34.609 --> 00:32:37.250 have the money. So it's a lot of fun. I get to 00:32:37.250 --> 00:32:40.690 go a lot of places and experience a lot of things 00:32:40.690 --> 00:32:44.109 that otherwise there's no way I would. Be in 00:32:44.109 --> 00:32:47.670 a room with those same people so and then on 00:32:47.670 --> 00:32:50.450 top of that I get to you know, I get to Get to 00:32:50.450 --> 00:32:53.369 know and perform with like just the cream of 00:32:53.369 --> 00:32:58.490 the crop musicians Which is so incredible and 00:32:58.490 --> 00:33:01.369 they've really become my family and a lot of 00:33:01.369 --> 00:33:04.490 them are On my new music recording on my new 00:33:04.490 --> 00:33:08.109 on my new music Yeah, like you said if you surround 00:33:08.109 --> 00:33:11.910 yourself with those veterans of the industry 00:33:11.910 --> 00:33:15.319 kind of forces you to keep raising your game 00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:20.920 to the next level totally totally yeah danielle 00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:24.200 i almost forgot to mention you've recorded is 00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:28.400 this with your mom a uh christmas song yes yeah 00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:32.359 we did two christmas songs this past christmas 00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:37.640 time as i mentioned my mom is a pianist and christmas 00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:42.039 music is one of my favorite genres of music it's 00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:45.859 something I love to sing and I have just so many 00:33:45.859 --> 00:33:48.759 memories of my mom and I at the piano around 00:33:48.759 --> 00:33:51.339 Christmas time or even just my mom in the background 00:33:51.339 --> 00:33:53.900 playing Christmas music. Like even my friends 00:33:53.900 --> 00:33:56.940 have memories of coming over around Christmas 00:33:56.940 --> 00:33:59.680 time and my mom is always practicing in the background. 00:34:01.680 --> 00:34:05.880 So I really wanted to honor her and get those 00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:08.260 recordings done. It was such a special thing 00:34:08.260 --> 00:34:11.079 for us to do together. It was really great. Well, 00:34:11.079 --> 00:34:12.860 I know we have a little bit of distance between 00:34:12.860 --> 00:34:16.599 the next holiday season being June but I'm I 00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:18.440 like Christmas music a little bit more now than 00:34:18.440 --> 00:34:21.579 I did Ten years ago. I don't know. I just really 00:34:21.579 --> 00:34:23.699 get into it Especially when it gets really close 00:34:23.699 --> 00:34:26.539 to Christmas Day those last few days and Christmas 00:34:26.539 --> 00:34:30.079 Eve. That's what I've got Christmas carols on 00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:32.460 the whole night when I'm playing Santa or whatever 00:34:32.460 --> 00:34:37.380 I'm doing So I love it if anyone needs Christmas 00:34:37.380 --> 00:34:42.269 in July and there we go Maybe a couple more questions 00:34:42.269 --> 00:34:45.489 here Danielle. You've been just spectacular especially 00:34:45.489 --> 00:34:49.429 with your undying patience at the beginning of 00:34:49.429 --> 00:34:54.090 this episode of before we even started First 00:34:54.090 --> 00:34:57.670 again, I just want to reinforce that and this 00:34:57.670 --> 00:35:00.949 is for you the listener if you're driving and 00:35:00.949 --> 00:35:04.409 or you're Exercising whatever you're doing. I 00:35:04.409 --> 00:35:05.909 don't want to say there's ever anything wrong 00:35:05.909 --> 00:35:08.369 with somebody's hometown and sometimes it makes 00:35:08.369 --> 00:35:12.289 sense to stay there And I do think that if you've 00:35:12.289 --> 00:35:14.690 made a couple moves, it's not like, okay, let's 00:35:14.690 --> 00:35:16.889 move to St. Louis, live there a couple years, 00:35:16.909 --> 00:35:20.849 let's go move to Portland, or wherever, San Francisco, 00:35:21.349 --> 00:35:24.210 and now let's go to Denver. It's like, that works 00:35:24.210 --> 00:35:26.610 for some people. It's okay to make a couple moves. 00:35:27.269 --> 00:35:29.550 I mean, at some point you want to set down roots. 00:35:29.809 --> 00:35:33.789 I think that's very important. But if you're 00:35:33.789 --> 00:35:37.449 in your hometown and you feel like there's something 00:35:37.449 --> 00:35:40.460 else out there, Would lean into that feeling? 00:35:40.739 --> 00:35:43.000 That's what I would encourage people and would 00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:44.980 you say the same thing like if they're just something's 00:35:44.980 --> 00:35:48.320 kind of like gnawing at them like all right, 00:35:48.320 --> 00:35:52.599 I've got my my friend set here and It's great. 00:35:52.619 --> 00:35:54.880 But it's kind of I know what this is always gonna 00:35:54.880 --> 00:36:01.940 look like Yeah, I 100 % agree. I think that there 00:36:01.940 --> 00:36:10.000 are worldviews and cultures and people and cities 00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:15.079 that will just exponentially expand your mind 00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:19.059 more than you ever knew was possible. And you're 00:36:19.059 --> 00:36:22.599 doing yourself a disservice if you're never letting 00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:26.460 yourself even have the opportunity to expand 00:36:26.460 --> 00:36:30.650 your mind like that. And so... I mean, I think 00:36:30.650 --> 00:36:33.849 it saved my life that I left my hometown. I will 00:36:33.849 --> 00:36:36.250 always love Brenner Rapids. I will always be. 00:36:36.449 --> 00:36:38.769 I will always have Ruth there. My family's there. 00:36:39.070 --> 00:36:42.030 I love Michigan. But there are just so many things 00:36:42.030 --> 00:36:45.289 that I didn't know that I didn't know, you know? 00:36:45.750 --> 00:36:51.050 So I think that I preach that to everyone. If 00:36:51.050 --> 00:36:54.849 you have the opportunity, do it. Like, you will 00:36:54.849 --> 00:36:57.449 not regret it. You can always go back. There's, 00:36:57.449 --> 00:37:00.829 home will always be there for you. But even if 00:37:00.829 --> 00:37:03.150 you, just a month, you know, go try it out for 00:37:03.150 --> 00:37:06.510 a month. It's not, I promise there's not even 00:37:06.510 --> 00:37:10.550 a possibility of regretting it. That's so well 00:37:10.550 --> 00:37:12.969 spoken. And some people may be listening and 00:37:12.969 --> 00:37:15.710 they hear that and they think, well, but, um, 00:37:15.710 --> 00:37:20.469 I'm a little bit, my means, um, are kind of restrict 00:37:20.469 --> 00:37:22.409 me a little bit. I would always recommend, well, 00:37:22.489 --> 00:37:25.530 go travel, go, uh, plan a weekend, something 00:37:25.530 --> 00:37:28.570 that's drivable. There's probably a town or a 00:37:28.570 --> 00:37:31.690 bigger city that's drivable for, um, for just 00:37:31.690 --> 00:37:36.070 a weekend. And, uh, it could open your eyes and 00:37:36.070 --> 00:37:38.570 you could, like you said, decide, wow, this is 00:37:38.570 --> 00:37:40.250 not really for me. I'm going to take it back 00:37:40.250 --> 00:37:46.630 and that's okay too. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. Um, and 00:37:46.630 --> 00:37:48.670 speaking of Nashville, so I'm sure you've, you've 00:37:48.670 --> 00:37:51.190 had a, you've had opportunities to interact with 00:37:51.190 --> 00:37:55.239 lots of different people. Have you had any established 00:37:55.239 --> 00:37:57.480 musicians take an interest in you and say, hey, 00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:00.519 keep doing what you're doing without naming names 00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:03.539 or anything. But have you gotten some good advice 00:38:03.539 --> 00:38:06.380 from people that say, hey, stick with that. You're 00:38:06.380 --> 00:38:08.960 onto something there. You're going to run into 00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:11.340 some headwinds. Here's what's coming, but just 00:38:11.340 --> 00:38:15.760 keep on doing what you're doing. Yeah, I have. 00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:19.039 Like I mentioned before, working with Downtown 00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:22.360 Band Entertainment, I work with musicians who 00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:26.659 are touring with celebrity artists most of the 00:38:26.659 --> 00:38:28.940 year and pick up gigs with us when they can when 00:38:28.940 --> 00:38:33.539 they're home. So I know a lot of people who are 00:38:33.539 --> 00:38:36.780 really close with some of the bigger name artists. 00:38:37.219 --> 00:38:43.179 And then I have some other avenues of bigger 00:38:43.179 --> 00:38:46.300 artists that I have gotten to speak with and 00:38:46.300 --> 00:38:49.719 I have gotten some really encouraging notes from 00:38:49.719 --> 00:38:53.500 people and I mean, it speaks more than I can 00:38:53.500 --> 00:38:55.519 even put into words. Obviously, I can't even 00:38:55.519 --> 00:38:59.119 put it into words right now. But when someone 00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:04.460 who I respect and admire and in awe of comes 00:39:04.460 --> 00:39:08.400 to me and tells me that I'm spectacular and keep 00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:10.800 doing what you're doing, that's really what fuels 00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:15.980 my fire. And yeah, it's really special. And how 00:39:15.980 --> 00:39:19.050 about Nashville? Are you a Predators fan? Are 00:39:19.050 --> 00:39:21.530 you a Titans fan? Have you gotten into any of 00:39:21.530 --> 00:39:25.590 the sports teams there? I've been to a press 00:39:25.590 --> 00:39:28.449 game and I have been to a Titans game. Both were 00:39:28.449 --> 00:39:33.250 very fun. I'm not a sports fanatic by any means, 00:39:33.550 --> 00:39:37.650 but I will gladly go anytime and pretend to be 00:39:37.650 --> 00:39:41.210 one and I'll buy the hat or the jersey and I 00:39:41.210 --> 00:39:44.449 will lean into it and it's always a good time. 00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:49.320 Um, but I will also complain about a Fred game 00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:51.900 being at Bridgestone on a Saturday night when 00:39:51.900 --> 00:39:54.739 we are also playing downtown on a Saturday night 00:39:54.739 --> 00:40:03.559 and it's crazy busy and All the above Um, we're 00:40:03.559 --> 00:40:05.860 just i'll give this a couple more general questions 00:40:05.860 --> 00:40:10.019 here How do you? Maybe going back a second time 00:40:10.019 --> 00:40:13.519 on this topic, but when you run into obstacles 00:40:14.190 --> 00:40:16.289 And it's just like in the middle of that day 00:40:16.289 --> 00:40:19.090 or you run into an obstacle. That's like It's 00:40:19.090 --> 00:40:21.050 just been really stressful for that month or 00:40:21.050 --> 00:40:24.949 something. How do you keep? A real optimistic 00:40:24.949 --> 00:40:28.090 mindset. Are you naturally positive? Do you naturally 00:40:28.090 --> 00:40:31.449 want to find your find a solution and get through 00:40:31.449 --> 00:40:34.369 stuff or Do you have your everybody has their 00:40:34.369 --> 00:40:36.250 days you have some days you're like, I'm done. 00:40:36.409 --> 00:40:41.070 I'm just done with today Yeah, I'm a little bit 00:40:41.070 --> 00:40:45.099 of both I think being Being a creative, most 00:40:45.099 --> 00:40:48.179 creatives actually kind of like to live in their 00:40:48.179 --> 00:40:52.079 sadness, but kind of what actually helps us, 00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:54.940 helps our creativity. So it's like, it's a weird, 00:40:54.940 --> 00:40:58.139 it's a weird like double edged sword. It's like, 00:40:58.260 --> 00:41:00.039 obviously you don't want to be sad and depressed, 00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:03.079 but you kind of do. Cause it's like, that's where 00:41:03.079 --> 00:41:06.659 all your creativity comes from. It's like, it's 00:41:06.659 --> 00:41:09.860 yeah, it's hard to explain unless The creatives 00:41:09.860 --> 00:41:11.960 out there know exactly what I'm talking about. 00:41:12.659 --> 00:41:15.519 I'm also a four on the Enneagram, which if you 00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:20.380 study the Enneagram, then that also says it perfectly. 00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:27.079 I do love obviously finding a good solution to 00:41:27.079 --> 00:41:33.739 a problem, but I would say I lean on a team or 00:41:33.739 --> 00:41:36.380 my partner to kind of help pull some of the weight. 00:41:37.090 --> 00:41:39.489 If it were all up to me, I would probably just 00:41:39.489 --> 00:41:45.369 want to be sad all the time Do you like some 00:41:45.369 --> 00:41:47.690 days where it's just the weather's terrible it's 00:41:47.690 --> 00:41:51.050 I know Nashville it gets freezing cold sometimes 00:41:51.050 --> 00:41:52.989 and maybe one of the reasons I haven't fully 00:41:52.989 --> 00:41:55.349 explored living there full -time but What do 00:41:55.349 --> 00:41:57.630 you do on some of those? Not get freezing cold. 00:41:58.550 --> 00:42:00.829 I'm from Michigan. Oh, that's right. Yeah. It 00:42:00.829 --> 00:42:04.110 does get freezing cold. Nashville does not get 00:42:04.110 --> 00:42:07.969 freezing cold. It will get cold for a couple 00:42:07.969 --> 00:42:11.309 of days in the winter, but for the most part, 00:42:11.710 --> 00:42:15.630 it's pretty mild. Yeah. I had a guest on from 00:42:15.630 --> 00:42:18.250 Boston, Danielle Morale. I really liked her music 00:42:18.250 --> 00:42:21.730 too, but I've heard about Boston where you Or 00:42:21.730 --> 00:42:23.869 maybe this was uh, danny pike is another uh, 00:42:23.889 --> 00:42:26.610 she lives in chicago And she was moving from 00:42:26.610 --> 00:42:30.010 I think somewhere in texas. I want to say And 00:42:30.010 --> 00:42:33.070 she did not have the right she had like a coat, 00:42:33.070 --> 00:42:36.090 but it wasn't like a boston winter coat like 00:42:36.090 --> 00:42:39.369 you have to have certain layers and certain types 00:42:39.369 --> 00:42:42.889 of jackets and scarves and all like We don't 00:42:42.889 --> 00:42:44.789 have that stuff down here. I've got like one 00:42:44.789 --> 00:42:49.769 or two jackets but um But yeah, you get through 00:42:49.769 --> 00:42:51.880 it but Do you have some times where all you want 00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:55.099 to do is just put on a movie? Cook something 00:42:55.099 --> 00:42:57.820 that you like to eat and just sit there and have 00:42:57.820 --> 00:43:01.619 one of those nights the rain's falling and Absolutely, 00:43:01.659 --> 00:43:04.639 and that sounds like the perfect night to me 00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:09.099 Um, oh how about this ideal scenario are you 00:43:09.099 --> 00:43:11.079 ever sitting there in the you can see the rain 00:43:11.079 --> 00:43:13.219 out the window It's just a miserable day. You're 00:43:13.219 --> 00:43:15.710 sitting there I'm snacking on something that 00:43:15.710 --> 00:43:17.289 you maybe shouldn't be snacking on and you're 00:43:17.289 --> 00:43:19.150 just like watching a movie and then you just 00:43:19.150 --> 00:43:22.909 all of a sudden have this great lyric like do 00:43:22.909 --> 00:43:24.550 you have moments where you've got oh I need to 00:43:24.550 --> 00:43:27.510 write that down or I need to put that in yes 00:43:27.510 --> 00:43:33.070 yeah I would say most of my songs stem from something 00:43:33.070 --> 00:43:37.090 like that where it's just out of the blue or 00:43:37.090 --> 00:43:39.590 something that like some sort of melody that 00:43:39.590 --> 00:43:44.000 got stuck in my head that won't leave me alone 00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:48.719 until I do something with it. Okay. Last couple 00:43:48.719 --> 00:43:51.159 of questions. I promise. Cause you've been really, 00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:55.239 you've been fantastic. Okay. Uh, talking about 00:43:55.239 --> 00:43:58.139 movies, I like to ask this question sometimes. 00:43:58.139 --> 00:44:00.920 And if you don't have an immediate answer, that's 00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:04.920 okay. But is there a movie that really, really 00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:07.659 makes you cry? Like you're like, Oh my gosh, 00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:11.300 I love this movie. Someone wants to watch it 00:44:11.300 --> 00:44:12.980 or I see it on TV. I'm like, I don't know if 00:44:12.980 --> 00:44:15.000 I need to do this to myself again But is there 00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:19.300 do you have a movie that really? It's just waterfalls 00:44:19.300 --> 00:44:22.079 Man, I'm sure that there are actually so many 00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:27.340 of them. I cry pretty easily in movies, so Probably 00:44:27.340 --> 00:44:32.880 most movies I would cry in My girl it's an old 00:44:32.880 --> 00:44:36.159 movie. Yeah, but that one always always make 00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:41.679 me cry a walk to remember A good, a good crying 00:44:41.679 --> 00:44:43.840 movie. There are sometimes, sometimes when you're 00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:46.239 like, I really need to cry tonight. What should 00:44:46.239 --> 00:44:48.880 I watch? It would be like a walk to remember. 00:44:49.059 --> 00:44:53.079 That'd probably be the one for me. Okay. And 00:44:53.079 --> 00:44:55.860 then is there an artist that you listen to that 00:44:55.860 --> 00:44:58.340 really has nothing to do with your sound and 00:44:58.340 --> 00:45:01.840 like, you just really like this band or this 00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:04.539 songwriter. And it's like, nobody would expect 00:45:04.539 --> 00:45:08.019 that you would like them. Definitely. I mean, 00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:14.840 I like music across all genres, and I actively 00:45:14.840 --> 00:45:19.119 listen to music across all genres. I don't know. 00:45:19.340 --> 00:45:21.940 It's a tricky question because I don't know what 00:45:21.940 --> 00:45:25.099 would be unexpected, at least for the people 00:45:25.099 --> 00:45:27.679 that know me, because they just would know that 00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:30.840 I listen to a little bit of everything and enjoy 00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:35.599 everything. But I mean, I can go from all over 00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:38.099 the board. Like a playlist could go from like, 00:45:39.340 --> 00:45:46.219 90s punk rock to, you know, country, to jazz, 00:45:46.780 --> 00:45:51.860 to indie folk, all in the snap of a finger, all 00:45:51.860 --> 00:45:55.139 over the board. You know, I hear stuff come on 00:45:55.139 --> 00:45:57.679 again. I wasn't like so into this at the time 00:45:57.679 --> 00:46:02.179 because I was 20 something in the early 2000s. 00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:07.289 So like that song by Lit. I can't think of the 00:46:07.289 --> 00:46:09.590 name of it. They were like, it was one hit. Yeah. 00:46:09.949 --> 00:46:13.750 I think that's it. It's awesome. It comes on 00:46:13.750 --> 00:46:15.789 like Pandora sometimes. I'm like, Oh, I love 00:46:15.789 --> 00:46:19.070 that song. Yeah. Like some periods of time, whether 00:46:19.070 --> 00:46:21.230 it's the seventies or the nineties, like they're 00:46:21.230 --> 00:46:25.210 very easy to romanticize here in 2024. And so 00:46:25.210 --> 00:46:27.309 whatever music is from there, it's like, I don't 00:46:27.309 --> 00:46:32.289 know. It has a different feel to it now. Yeah. 00:46:33.190 --> 00:46:36.219 Okay. Well, Could keep going a lot more nonsense 00:46:36.219 --> 00:46:38.960 and little silly questions like that But Danielle 00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:41.380 is there anything that you would like to promote? 00:46:41.599 --> 00:46:43.139 I mentioned the website earlier and this will 00:46:43.139 --> 00:46:46.500 be in the show notes Danielle Cosby comm but 00:46:46.500 --> 00:46:48.280 anything else you'd like to talk about that we 00:46:48.280 --> 00:46:51.820 didn't cover I've got a new song coming out July 00:46:51.820 --> 00:46:56.780 12th called you and There is I believe that there 00:46:56.780 --> 00:47:00.420 is a live Version of it on YouTube so you can 00:47:00.420 --> 00:47:02.820 familiarize yourself with it before it comes 00:47:02.820 --> 00:47:06.239 out on the 12th So excited about that. I've got 00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:08.659 I'll be releasing new music throughout the rest 00:47:08.659 --> 00:47:12.199 of the year And then I go back into the studio 00:47:12.199 --> 00:47:16.420 in August to kind of round out an album So really 00:47:16.420 --> 00:47:18.699 excited about all the new music that's coming. 00:47:19.199 --> 00:47:22.639 So be on the lookout There should be new drops 00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:26.079 every few months for a while Great stuff. Yeah 00:47:26.079 --> 00:47:28.340 folks go to the website or you can find Danielle 00:47:28.340 --> 00:47:32.559 on Facebook Instagram Spotify YouTube Again, 00:47:32.579 --> 00:47:35.280 be sure to visit this shop section on her website 00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:39.280 find something of interest to you and Man, I 00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:41.059 usually I don't have a stopping point, but I 00:47:41.059 --> 00:47:43.559 think I I think I've kept you too long I really 00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:49.519 I'm like, oh my gosh, we gotta wrap this up Thanks 00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:53.179 so much for having me this has been great and 00:47:53.179 --> 00:47:55.159 I haven't done this this in a while I usually 00:47:55.159 --> 00:47:57.820 Danielle some of the older episodes I would say 00:47:57.820 --> 00:48:00.000 like okay now remember and then I don't really 00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:02.239 know what I'm gonna say But I think this is a 00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:04.900 good episode to do it. So we've already talked 00:48:04.900 --> 00:48:07.900 about this but folks remember if You've got an 00:48:07.900 --> 00:48:11.059 idea or if you like to write if you just like 00:48:11.059 --> 00:48:13.559 to write whether it's creative writing poetry 00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:17.280 songwriting Put it on paper Show it to somebody 00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:19.780 that you care about get their opinion even if 00:48:19.780 --> 00:48:22.219 they say hey look that needs a lot of work You 00:48:22.219 --> 00:48:24.119 know, you're doing a good job and he's a lot 00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:28.159 of work man. That's okay, but If you have something 00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:31.260 you like to do Just do it get it out of your 00:48:31.260 --> 00:48:34.869 head Get it out of your heart And sometimes, 00:48:35.150 --> 00:48:37.210 I think you might sign on to this, Danielle, 00:48:38.289 --> 00:48:40.389 don't know if we talk about journaling enough 00:48:40.389 --> 00:48:45.130 in today's society. It's all kind of about promoting 00:48:45.130 --> 00:48:47.210 the best versions of ourselves. It's okay to 00:48:47.210 --> 00:48:49.429 keep a journal and write down your thoughts, 00:48:49.590 --> 00:48:52.269 even if they're not, even if they're not for 00:48:52.269 --> 00:48:56.449 the world to see. So yeah, I would say that and 00:48:56.449 --> 00:49:01.010 to follow, follow your dreams. Yeah, definitely. 00:49:01.889 --> 00:49:05.730 I second that. Okay. I hope you guys have enjoyed 00:49:05.730 --> 00:49:08.309 this episode. We'll see you next Sunday on the 00:49:08.309 --> 00:49:11.250 Dan Time podcast and Danielle Cosby, thank you 00:49:11.250 --> 00:49:13.789 so much for being here today. Thanks for having 00:49:13.789 --> 00:49:15.110 me. It's been fun.