All right, welcome to episode number 47 of the
Dan Time podcast. I'm your host, Dan McArdle.
DanTimePod at gmail .com. Same handle on the
socials. I appreciate you rating the show. As
you know, the guests on this show span the vast
Daniverse. So I don't stop at just Dan. And today,
such a special episode. featuring Nashville -based
songstress Danielle Cosby. Her new single entitled
You comes out in less than two weeks on Friday,
July 12th. Follow Danielle Cosby Music on Facebook
and danielle .songstress on Instagram and YouTube.
Danielle's ambition in this industry led her
to take on leadership roles in production at
a young age in Grand Rapids, Michigan, where
she proved herself in a male dominated field.
But this time period was also marked by trauma
and at times turmoil. And she knew a change was
needed not just for her creative energy, but
perhaps to save her life. Danielle picked up
and moved to Nashville four years ago. in the
middle of a pandemic. Read her inspiring story
on NashvilleVoyager .com. We talk about her debut
album from 2019, Detour. Danielle said that she
wrote Detour while she was still in an abusive
relationship. Now, Danielle is also an operations
specialist for Downtown Band Entertainment in
Nashville, and she works part time as a personal
assistant and studio manager for Nick Wheeler.
the lead guitarist for All American Rejects.
In April of this year, Danielle released the
single Chameleon, and it marks a departure from
her earlier sound on the Songstress series. She
told the Stratton setlist in 2022, I'm ready
for something lighter and more fun. And boy,
did she accomplish that. Bringing in talented
producer Nick Bullock, a horn section, seasoned
Nashville musicians, and an overall richer sound
where her voice takes flight. In the opening
guitar notes, you hear the vintage sound of fingers
moving along the fretboard and then an airy liftoff
taking you back to a funkier sound, maybe a bygone
era, combining modern pop sensibilities with
Motown and funk elements. And you hear the confidence
and conviction in Danielle's lyrics. And get
ready. for more singles and a new LP from Danielle
Cosby later this year, as she re -enters the
studio in August, again with producer Nick Bullock.
The video of this episode is available on the
Dan TimePod YouTube channel. Okay. Let's get
to the conversation now. It is Danielle Cosby
time. Y 'all I am, um, Hey, I just said y 'all.
That might be the first time that I said y 'all
on this podcast. because i'm outfitting that
i'm from nashville so yeah i say you'll hear
me say y 'all a lot i'm sure if you're just joining
the show i always like new people coming to the
podcast if it's somebody you've been following
and you just heard about it you're like oh cool
i'll check it out um thanks for listening for
watching this project of mine don't tell me how
i got started or don't ask me how you know Why
is it Dan time? And you just talk to people with
the family of names, the Danielle, Daniel, Dana,
Danny, that just goes on and on. I was actually
thinking this week about, um, man, if somebody
listening to the show, if your name is Joe, man,
you're sitting on a gold mine. You really need
to consider Joe time because you've got J O,
Joanne, Joe, Joseph, Josephine. But anyway, so
I wanted to do an interview show. And I like
talking to people, always have, asking them about
their backgrounds and experiences. And I'm like,
how do I get this thing off the ground? Like,
I'm not attached to any media backing. And I
thought, well, that's a good, that's a different
approach. But I think it comes across to some
people who see it as, oh, okay, this guy is just
kind of full of himself. Like it's Dan time.
But honestly, the show is never about me. The
focus is always on the guest. and I want to bring
people to you put them in front of you who I
think you should you should know about and so
today I'm really happy we've been talking for
a few weeks here and got the date lined up Danielle
Cosby singer -songwriter based in Nashville Tennessee
originally from Grand Rapids Michigan she's pursuing
her dreams she's evolving I also Like to use
that phrase, you know, even though it's Dan time
And whether that's a Dan or Danielle This is
not in any old Dan or any old Danielle type of
I won't have a guest on here just because I really
like Danielle's biography and her musical journey
a lot of growth here and Hopefully this is inspiring
to people Danielle I have to step aside. I got
to get myself out of the way because I always
do these intros for 17 minutes before I say,
hey, thanks for being here. But thanks for being
here, Danielle. How are you doing today? I'm
doing really well. It's a beautiful day. We are
in the midst of Nashville summer, which is 100
degrees every day. It's pretty miserable, but
it's also beautiful. And yeah, making my way
through a Friday in Nashville, Tennessee. I love
the music city. I've always had reasons to go
there. Going back 10 or 15 years, had a cousin
that lived there. I've had friends live there.
I've gone up there for tournaments, you know,
SEC basketball. I remember going to some basketball
tournaments there, things like that, or concerts.
I love Nashville. And I always like talking to
someone who I've had another guest on the show
that's not originally from Nashville, but you're
one of those Creatives performers and writers
and singers and how did you decide that look
if I want to do this? Maybe Nashville is the
place for me. I know it was like about four years
ago We'll talk a little bit about your your early
background, but like tell me about that crossroads
where you're like you're in Grand Rapids You've
actually done a lot. You've got a lot in your
portfolio and you're thinking this is the time
only yeah, I I wanted to move to Nashville since
the first time I ever visited, which I think
was 2014 maybe. And it felt like the first time
I was ever here, I was like, oh yeah, this is
where I need to be. It just felt right. And so
I spent years just kind of dreaming about it.
And then COVID happened. And in 2020, all my
gigs went away. All my work went away. My life
was kind of, you know, up in a big question mark.
And so I kind of thought to myself like, well,
I could be quarantined in Grand Rapids or I could
be quarantined in Nashville. And in a way, COVID
actually gave me that opportunity to pick my
life up and move it. Whereas before it was just,
I was too busy and there were just a million
other excuses, but. Yeah, so I bit the bullet
and I did the thing in the middle of a pandemic.
I was a little bit crazy. I moved with my best
friend. He was also a little bit crazy and was
like, yeah, let's do it. Why not? Let's try it.
And it worked out. Thankfully, it all worked
well in my favor. But yeah, I got into a point
where I felt like I kind of climbed to the top
of the ladder in Grand Rapids. I did. pretty
much all the things that I could do there on
my own and I was kind of feeling burnt out and
you know hitting the glass ceiling so I really
needed a fresh start in a new city regardless
of where it was I think even if it wasn't Nashville
I needed to get out of Grand Rapids which is
something I think everyone should do at least
once in their lives. move away from your hometown
and experience what's happening outside of your
little boundary that you've never known anything
outside of. So yeah, I'm really grateful that
it all worked well for me. I love it here. And
yeah, things are going really well. Well, I think
that took some courage back then. Like you said,
not only is it a big life change, But the pandemic's
been going on for a few months. I think this
is like the summer of 2020. Yeah, yeah. So I
actually had originally planned to spend a month
in Nashville before we knew about COVID and what
was going to be happening with COVID. So I had
an Airbnb booked for the month of April in Nashville
just by myself. I was planning to come and scope
it out and, you know, try to get a feel for the
city. And then when everything hit, I had to
cancel or that Airbnb just got canceled. Everything
got canceled. But I was like, you know what,
I really just, regardless of any big, I want
to get away from Grand Rapids. So I was able
to rebook an Airbnb in May of 2020 for like half
the price, because obviously these Airbnbs were
like, we need someone to come give us money.
So I got like a super cheap rental in downtown
Nashville for the month of May in 2020, came
here, just spent the month by myself, which was
like really therapeutic in a lot of ways and
really good for me. And then while I was there,
while I was here, I started looking at housing
options and serendipitously met the, who ended
up being my landlord. She owned a little boutique
in one of the suburbs of Nashville and I went
into her store one day and started talking with
her and told her that I wanted to move here and
she was like, you're gonna think I'm crazy, but
my husband and I just bought this house and we're
gonna be renting it out. It hasn't even been
put on the market yet. Here's the address, drive
by. If you like it, let me know and it's yours.
And so I got back in my car, I told my best friend,
I was like, I think I found where we're gonna
live and I met our landlord. She was like, what
is going on? And sure enough, it was like the
cutest little house. And Jacqueline, my friend
and I came back the next month and got to see
the inside of it, tour the inside, met our landlords
and it was just like so meant to be. Signed a
lease and Moved in July officially in July of
2020 So it was a whirlwind but it was all just
like so meant to be and lined up so perfectly
I love it and during this time so you get to
Nashville you start writing some music or maybe
you've had some ideas But was it in Grand Rapids
where you wrote? Recorded and released your first
LP detour Yes, yeah. So I released Detour in
May of 2019. So kind of just before everything
hit the fan. So I didn't even really get much
of an opportunity to do anything with my album
or my original music in Grand Rapids before the
pandemic hit. So it's kind of a weird time. But
yeah, so I released that one in 2019 and then
Shortly after I moved to Nashville, I released
a few singles that I recorded here Yeah, the
the songstress series. Yeah better people Bottle
up you and growing Yeah, which I noticed Danielle
on your website if people go to Danielle cosby
.com You still have the the clothing line with
some of these some of that artwork T -shirts
tote bags maybe it's okay to even in the summertime
to stock up on your long sleeves your hoodies
and Sweatshirts I do think that's cool that when
an artist makes available and also digital downloads,
but makes available like a merch section Yeah,
yeah, and I so I I created the artwork for all
the songstress series Releases and I actually
was selling art print of those three designs
to kind of help fund the recording effort. And
so I was sending out art prints and little handwritten
cards and stuff and then eventually graduated
to more of the merch section on the website.
Wow, that's really cool. Again, I would order
something like that or encourage my listeners
because likely in your town, you'll be the only
one and then it starts up a conversation. Who
is that or what is that and um, hey, I'm a big
fan of Wearing shirts or carrying around something
with an emblem on it that you're not you don't
know a hundred percent Daniel Cosby's catalog,
but you like the design and You're getting started
on it. So yeah, I think that's really cool So
before we get to the new single chameleon Which
I've been spinning around like over and over
again. I really like this song but I think it's
important like go back to uh and not take a lot
of time talking about this but the detour album
danielle this is some pretty heavy stuff like
it's um you can tell where it's like biographical
sometimes it's directed towards a former partner
and like like some songs like this position i
love pitch ain't perfect that might be my favorite
song on there oh yeah I think I think like pitch
ain't perfect is if someone has creative Energy
and they want to put something out there. I think
that's reassuring to them The lyrics are and
yeah talk about maybe your Some songs that still
I know you've kind of moved on to a different
or your sound has evolved But do you have some
tracks from that record that are still pretty
near and dear to you? For sure. I mean everything
i'm right I think will always be near and dear
to me. It ebbs and flows and comes in seasons
I'd say when I like there are some times or there
have been some times where I can't even listen
to detour. It's just it either is like hitting
too close to home or it's just bringing stuff
up that I am not ready to revisit because it's
such a you know, you're really wearing your heart
on your sleeve as a songwriter. And I did not
hold back. I mean, I never hold back in my songwriting,
but yeah. So I would say in this current season
of my life, I have so much appreciation and love
for the whole detour album, the songs that I
think. I still go back to and have carried over
into kind of this new genre that I'm kind of
putting myself in are, I Can't Tell You is one
that kind of fits into this new vibe that I've
got going on. It's one of my favorites. And obviously
Detour. I love the groove of that song, I Can't
Tell You. Yeah, thanks. Yeah, so when I did my...
my release party for chameleon. The songs that
I played off of detour were detour, I can't tell
you and pitching perfect. I pulled it up here.
I think this is from, from your bandcamp page,
but going back to pitch ain't perfect. Cause
this is really stands out. I just love this.
Like people, I think sometimes they're afraid
to, to just hit start, press play, put something
out there. And I get it. It's like, it's, it's
very easy to be self critical. especially if
you've got something that you like to work on
or an instrument that you like to play or you
like to write poetry, but you don't want anybody
to see it. You don't want anybody to hear it,
but where you say, I think this is the chorus,
I can paint all the pictures, I can sing all
the songs, I can write all the poems, I've been
dreaming all along, but when it comes down to
it, sometimes my pitch ain't perfect, but I'd
rather sing out of tune than to never sing at
all. And people, please let me... Reinforce it.
That's me speaking it. That's not how she sings
it. She thinks it much better than that So but
that was really cool and then yeah this position
is Again gosh, it's like almost like you had
to get those words on paper To put that chapter
behind you. I Love the song stop. I mean, that's
a really good song, too. If If you guys go to
the YouTube page, you can still see some live
performances of these songs Yeah, thanks. Thanks
for the shout out So let's um, I always like
to jump around a little bit and not stay exactly
on the timeline We'll talk a little bit about
the songstress series. But yeah, let's talk about
chameleon Released in April this year I guess
what's the reaction been when you play it live
because you're bringing in like is this a five
piece horn section You've got guitar, bass, drums.
Yeah. When we did it live, it was a five -piece
section. Recorded it with a three -piece section
with a couple of them doing multiple parts. So
there's even more than five on the recording.
I'm so grateful to know and be close with some
of the best musicians in the land here in Nashville,
and that includes horn players. I've got a ton
of close friends that are just... incredible
horn players and arrangers and writers. So my
good friend, Jovan, wrote the part for all of
my, all the horn parts for all my new stuff.
He wrote and arranged and executed. And yeah,
so much fun. I like the more horns, the better
in my opinion. Can never have too many horns.
And I want to bring out, I think it's the second
verse, because this is one of my favorite parts
of the song. I think we start out complicated,
I got too much to say just to start saying it
fabricated And then what that that part where
you really let your vocals flourish. I lived
a lie time to start opening eyes And it goes
on, you know, why do I keep coming back? I've
been paving the way but keep losing track of
it. I'm over it. I'm done I'm feeling like a
chameleon and Yeah, but that you guys listening
to the show I'm perfectly fine if you pause this
if you stop this and you download chameleon and
listen to what I'm talking about here. Cause
you must have, when that came out in the studio,
when you were trying out, um, different vocal
pitches, or I'm not saying this as well as I
could, but that really is a great example. I
think of how your, um, songwriting has evolved
and your vocals. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Were
you excited when that part came to you? For sure.
Yeah. Anything that's got like. something that
you know is going to catch attention of not even
just anybody, but what really gets me excited
is when I come up with something that I know
is going to catch the attention of my musician
friends. I want to be cool to my musician friends.
So if I've accomplished that, then all is well.
So little moments like that are something that
I'm always trying to incorporate and create in
my music to keep. To keep everybody engaged.
Yeah, it sounds like on Chameleon that your sound
is developing, progressing, and you want to add
some additional layers that maybe weren't there
before. It's looking at some of your influences,
Motown, Funk, the Doobie Brothers, Hall and Oates.
I can actually, the first time I heard this,
because my mom's a big fan of some of the artists
from the early to mid 70s. Cross genres and I'm
like this sounds like something you might hear
if you were walking down City streets some city
center in that time period, you know playing
in the distance or coming out of a club or something
It was like I think you like achieve this real
throwback feel on that song Thanks. Thank you.
Yeah, I I agree. I think it has a real like vintage
or retro vibe to it, even like the way the instruments
are playing and the way that it was produced.
I feel like we created this really cool pocket
of like vintage pop. That's not just your run
of the mill. And it can fit in a lot of subcategories,
which I've been really digging. Yeah, it's, I
think that music and pop music in general for
maybe about three to four years, I don't know
exactly how long. but it's not always as fun
as it used to be. It does, it sometimes sounds
more foreboding than it was in years past. It's
kind of like, I don't know if you agree with
this or not, but yeah, there's songs that they
just don't, they address something that maybe,
oh yeah, I connect with that. I went through
something like that. That she's singing about
something I went through. But when the song ends,
you don't really feel any better than you did
before the song started. And like this chameleon
is Yeah, it just has so much more flavor to it.
Thank you. I like to think so now. Are you always
writing? new material do you kind of have periods
where you're like, okay, I'm gonna focus on just
writing or Just performing. Yeah It's really
hard for me to Force myself into a creative space
with writing it really has to come naturally
and genuinely so I try to honor that when I can,
like when I'm really feeling the itch or, you
know, if I've got like a melody or a line in
my head, I really try to flush it out as soon
as possible before I forget about it. Or at least
like record the idea and then move on. I have
been living in a state of writing quite a bit
this year, finishing up more songs and eventually
a full album, so. I'm definitely in the thick
of it with writing currently. It definitely comes
in waves for me. So after this, I probably will
need a break from writing. And that's okay too.
Yeah. Last year, if I had this right, you did
some collaborations with Jordan Finn. Yeah. Yeah.
And Jordan actually is originally from Michigan
as well. So he's someone that I knew from back
home. and he just moved to Nashville maybe 18
months ago, year and a half, two years ago, and
has given it a go as a full -time producer. So
we collaborated on a few tunes and we still try
to collaborate whenever we can for think stuff
and any other ideas that come to mind. So yeah,
I actually originally knew him as a guitar player
and now he's full -time Production and he's killing
it. He's doing great. He does a lot of great
work Yeah, the single as it was I think that's
december of 22 To me that one is it's really
catchy I think it kind of positions you into
like these are more more in the dance genre.
Mm Yep. Yeah the a couple of them so we've done
a couple covers like as it was the harry styles
cover and then the two kind of like Techno pop
dance club style songs that we did like really
took off Never coming back and I'm in love and
those are both super fun They're like really
great summer about well Danielle you brought
a background with you to Nashville You did some
stuff in Grand Rapids with the Circle Theatre
concert series production work Do you look at
some of those experiences that prepared you to
handle some of these? big moments or how do you
feel now about your past work? Yeah, I mean everything
that I've gone through obviously has helped prepare
me for where I'm at now and where I'll be in
the future. I'm really grateful for the opportunities
that I had in Grand Rapids and I kind of found
myself in a leadership role pretty early on like
fresh out of high school. leading, producing,
performing, which obviously came with its own
obstacles, being a young female in charge. But
now I think that it's, I'm still a young female
in charge, but I don't, I don't feel the stigma
of it anymore. I think I've like, I'm over, I'm
over that, or I don't know, maybe, maybe Chameleon
comes into play, I'm over it. I don't know, but.
But I think that all of those experiences helped
prepare me to be the leader that I can be today
as far as management and all that stuff goes.
And then kind of same with performing. I mean,
I've been performing in a professional capacity
since I was a teenager. So I feel like I kind
of got a leg up on some people at a similar age
as me. I didn't go to college. I mean, I did
go to college for one year and went to community
college in Grand Rapids. But that was all I did.
I didn't go to school for four years for music.
I just I was like already doing it professionally.
So I just kind of dove into that. And I'm thankful
that it worked well for me. And I'm also really
grateful that I'm not in any college debt. Yes,
that's a big albatross for so many people, unfortunately,
but right. Yeah Now so if you want to read about
Danielle, there's some a really good article
here from the Stratton set list waiting to exhale
So they really give you a great bio on Danielle
here. I understand you were Your family or your
musical journey Growing up it started in a musical
family Learning piano as a small child. So that
was always like part of the picture right like
music was being played in the house in the car
and church definitely yes i grew up in a very
musical family my dad was a trumpet major my
mom was a piano major my dad was a worship pastor
at a church until i was 15 or 16 so i grew up
singing in the church and lead it leading the
youth group band and My mom was the accompanist,
piano accompanist for all of the schools that
I went to growing up. She actually started at
the public school when she was pregnant with
me. So through all the players that I was in,
middle school through high school, my mom was
the accompanist. And then my siblings are musical
and married into musical families. And there's
lots of band teachers and all of that good stuff.
So it's really unavoidable in our household.
the music yeah i was gonna say like you didn't
stand a chance you're you're gonna play an instrument
i really didn't i found a i was going through
some things from my childhood a while back and
i found something from i don't know first or
second grade but you know they ask you what do
you want to be when you grow up and my answer
was that i wanted to be in the wnba like Even
second grade Danielle knew there was no chance
I was not gonna grow up to be a basketball player.
The only option was music for me. I Think you
followed the right path for sure. I think so
too Daniel let's talk. I don't always ask singer
songwriters. I wish I would do this more often,
but let's talk about The gigs the performances
getting ready for them. How much fun do you have
trying to decide? How big of a production are
we gonna make this the items that you choose
to wear the way that you try to package that
visual Daniel Cosby performance. Is that fun?
Is it is it gonna be stressful at times? Yes,
and yes so fun. I mean there's really nothing
that be fit. I think probably any Performing
singer -songwriter would tell you the same that
that's like the ultimate feeling that we're trying
to chase is performing your original music. I'm
lucky that I have a lot of experience with production
and song selection and flow of setlist and things
from my other jobs. I'm a full -time performer
with a traveling wedding band, so I'm always
performing, I'm always on stages, and I also
create the products. So I'm fortunate to have
an understanding of you know like don't put too
many slow songs in a set like how to keep people's
interest in the flow and the keys and how they
all like work together and this would be a good
moment to talk a little bit while the band's
vamping and so I'm grateful for my musical background
and also just like my knowledge in the industry
on how to create an experience that's selfless.
There has to be a good balance of being selfish
and selfless as an original artist If it was
all one or the other, I don't think it would
translate to a crowd. Obviously your audience
wants to feel like they're a part of what's happening.
But then as a performer, you really want to feel
good about what you're performing. So there's
like a very delicate balance, but it's always
fun. I love the entire process from the setlist
to the rehearsing to the outfit, all of it. It's
all really enjoyable for me. And your day -to
-day like with downtown band entertainment? Yeah,
so that's my full -time job. The premiere, luxury,
wedding, corporate events, entertainment company.
We've got multiple products, all live music.
We have a blast. We have a really great team,
full -time staff team. And most of the team is
also performers as well. So I get to be on staff
full -time and perform pretty much full -time
as well. So it's really fun. We travel all over.
We're doing like the top tier events that really
have the money. So it's a lot of fun. I get to
go a lot of places and experience a lot of things
that otherwise there's no way I would. Be in
a room with those same people so and then on
top of that I get to you know, I get to Get to
know and perform with like just the cream of
the crop musicians Which is so incredible and
they've really become my family and a lot of
them are On my new music recording on my new
on my new music Yeah, like you said if you surround
yourself with those veterans of the industry
kind of forces you to keep raising your game
to the next level totally totally yeah danielle
i almost forgot to mention you've recorded is
this with your mom a uh christmas song yes yeah
we did two christmas songs this past christmas
time as i mentioned my mom is a pianist and christmas
music is one of my favorite genres of music it's
something I love to sing and I have just so many
memories of my mom and I at the piano around
Christmas time or even just my mom in the background
playing Christmas music. Like even my friends
have memories of coming over around Christmas
time and my mom is always practicing in the background.
So I really wanted to honor her and get those
recordings done. It was such a special thing
for us to do together. It was really great. Well,
I know we have a little bit of distance between
the next holiday season being June but I'm I
like Christmas music a little bit more now than
I did Ten years ago. I don't know. I just really
get into it Especially when it gets really close
to Christmas Day those last few days and Christmas
Eve. That's what I've got Christmas carols on
the whole night when I'm playing Santa or whatever
I'm doing So I love it if anyone needs Christmas
in July and there we go Maybe a couple more questions
here Danielle. You've been just spectacular especially
with your undying patience at the beginning of
this episode of before we even started First
again, I just want to reinforce that and this
is for you the listener if you're driving and
or you're Exercising whatever you're doing. I
don't want to say there's ever anything wrong
with somebody's hometown and sometimes it makes
sense to stay there And I do think that if you've
made a couple moves, it's not like, okay, let's
move to St. Louis, live there a couple years,
let's go move to Portland, or wherever, San Francisco,
and now let's go to Denver. It's like, that works
for some people. It's okay to make a couple moves.
I mean, at some point you want to set down roots.
I think that's very important. But if you're
in your hometown and you feel like there's something
else out there, Would lean into that feeling?
That's what I would encourage people and would
you say the same thing like if they're just something's
kind of like gnawing at them like all right,
I've got my my friend set here and It's great.
But it's kind of I know what this is always gonna
look like Yeah, I 100 % agree. I think that there
are worldviews and cultures and people and cities
that will just exponentially expand your mind
more than you ever knew was possible. And you're
doing yourself a disservice if you're never letting
yourself even have the opportunity to expand
your mind like that. And so... I mean, I think
it saved my life that I left my hometown. I will
always love Brenner Rapids. I will always be.
I will always have Ruth there. My family's there.
I love Michigan. But there are just so many things
that I didn't know that I didn't know, you know?
So I think that I preach that to everyone. If
you have the opportunity, do it. Like, you will
not regret it. You can always go back. There's,
home will always be there for you. But even if
you, just a month, you know, go try it out for
a month. It's not, I promise there's not even
a possibility of regretting it. That's so well
spoken. And some people may be listening and
they hear that and they think, well, but, um,
I'm a little bit, my means, um, are kind of restrict
me a little bit. I would always recommend, well,
go travel, go, uh, plan a weekend, something
that's drivable. There's probably a town or a
bigger city that's drivable for, um, for just
a weekend. And, uh, it could open your eyes and
you could, like you said, decide, wow, this is
not really for me. I'm going to take it back
and that's okay too. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. Um, and
speaking of Nashville, so I'm sure you've, you've
had a, you've had opportunities to interact with
lots of different people. Have you had any established
musicians take an interest in you and say, hey,
keep doing what you're doing without naming names
or anything. But have you gotten some good advice
from people that say, hey, stick with that. You're
onto something there. You're going to run into
some headwinds. Here's what's coming, but just
keep on doing what you're doing. Yeah, I have.
Like I mentioned before, working with Downtown
Band Entertainment, I work with musicians who
are touring with celebrity artists most of the
year and pick up gigs with us when they can when
they're home. So I know a lot of people who are
really close with some of the bigger name artists.
And then I have some other avenues of bigger
artists that I have gotten to speak with and
I have gotten some really encouraging notes from
people and I mean, it speaks more than I can
even put into words. Obviously, I can't even
put it into words right now. But when someone
who I respect and admire and in awe of comes
to me and tells me that I'm spectacular and keep
doing what you're doing, that's really what fuels
my fire. And yeah, it's really special. And how
about Nashville? Are you a Predators fan? Are
you a Titans fan? Have you gotten into any of
the sports teams there? I've been to a press
game and I have been to a Titans game. Both were
very fun. I'm not a sports fanatic by any means,
but I will gladly go anytime and pretend to be
one and I'll buy the hat or the jersey and I
will lean into it and it's always a good time.
Um, but I will also complain about a Fred game
being at Bridgestone on a Saturday night when
we are also playing downtown on a Saturday night
and it's crazy busy and All the above Um, we're
just i'll give this a couple more general questions
here How do you? Maybe going back a second time
on this topic, but when you run into obstacles
And it's just like in the middle of that day
or you run into an obstacle. That's like It's
just been really stressful for that month or
something. How do you keep? A real optimistic
mindset. Are you naturally positive? Do you naturally
want to find your find a solution and get through
stuff or Do you have your everybody has their
days you have some days you're like, I'm done.
I'm just done with today Yeah, I'm a little bit
of both I think being Being a creative, most
creatives actually kind of like to live in their
sadness, but kind of what actually helps us,
helps our creativity. So it's like, it's a weird,
it's a weird like double edged sword. It's like,
obviously you don't want to be sad and depressed,
but you kind of do. Cause it's like, that's where
all your creativity comes from. It's like, it's
yeah, it's hard to explain unless The creatives
out there know exactly what I'm talking about.
I'm also a four on the Enneagram, which if you
study the Enneagram, then that also says it perfectly.
I do love obviously finding a good solution to
a problem, but I would say I lean on a team or
my partner to kind of help pull some of the weight.
If it were all up to me, I would probably just
want to be sad all the time Do you like some
days where it's just the weather's terrible it's
I know Nashville it gets freezing cold sometimes
and maybe one of the reasons I haven't fully
explored living there full -time but What do
you do on some of those? Not get freezing cold.
I'm from Michigan. Oh, that's right. Yeah. It
does get freezing cold. Nashville does not get
freezing cold. It will get cold for a couple
of days in the winter, but for the most part,
it's pretty mild. Yeah. I had a guest on from
Boston, Danielle Morale. I really liked her music
too, but I've heard about Boston where you Or
maybe this was uh, danny pike is another uh,
she lives in chicago And she was moving from
I think somewhere in texas. I want to say And
she did not have the right she had like a coat,
but it wasn't like a boston winter coat like
you have to have certain layers and certain types
of jackets and scarves and all like We don't
have that stuff down here. I've got like one
or two jackets but um But yeah, you get through
it but Do you have some times where all you want
to do is just put on a movie? Cook something
that you like to eat and just sit there and have
one of those nights the rain's falling and Absolutely,
and that sounds like the perfect night to me
Um, oh how about this ideal scenario are you
ever sitting there in the you can see the rain
out the window It's just a miserable day. You're
sitting there I'm snacking on something that
you maybe shouldn't be snacking on and you're
just like watching a movie and then you just
all of a sudden have this great lyric like do
you have moments where you've got oh I need to
write that down or I need to put that in yes
yeah I would say most of my songs stem from something
like that where it's just out of the blue or
something that like some sort of melody that
got stuck in my head that won't leave me alone
until I do something with it. Okay. Last couple
of questions. I promise. Cause you've been really,
you've been fantastic. Okay. Uh, talking about
movies, I like to ask this question sometimes.
And if you don't have an immediate answer, that's
okay. But is there a movie that really, really
makes you cry? Like you're like, Oh my gosh,
I love this movie. Someone wants to watch it
or I see it on TV. I'm like, I don't know if
I need to do this to myself again But is there
do you have a movie that really? It's just waterfalls
Man, I'm sure that there are actually so many
of them. I cry pretty easily in movies, so Probably
most movies I would cry in My girl it's an old
movie. Yeah, but that one always always make
me cry a walk to remember A good, a good crying
movie. There are sometimes, sometimes when you're
like, I really need to cry tonight. What should
I watch? It would be like a walk to remember.
That'd probably be the one for me. Okay. And
then is there an artist that you listen to that
really has nothing to do with your sound and
like, you just really like this band or this
songwriter. And it's like, nobody would expect
that you would like them. Definitely. I mean,
I like music across all genres, and I actively
listen to music across all genres. I don't know.
It's a tricky question because I don't know what
would be unexpected, at least for the people
that know me, because they just would know that
I listen to a little bit of everything and enjoy
everything. But I mean, I can go from all over
the board. Like a playlist could go from like,
90s punk rock to, you know, country, to jazz,
to indie folk, all in the snap of a finger, all
over the board. You know, I hear stuff come on
again. I wasn't like so into this at the time
because I was 20 something in the early 2000s.
So like that song by Lit. I can't think of the
name of it. They were like, it was one hit. Yeah.
I think that's it. It's awesome. It comes on
like Pandora sometimes. I'm like, Oh, I love
that song. Yeah. Like some periods of time, whether
it's the seventies or the nineties, like they're
very easy to romanticize here in 2024. And so
whatever music is from there, it's like, I don't
know. It has a different feel to it now. Yeah.
Okay. Well, Could keep going a lot more nonsense
and little silly questions like that But Danielle
is there anything that you would like to promote?
I mentioned the website earlier and this will
be in the show notes Danielle Cosby comm but
anything else you'd like to talk about that we
didn't cover I've got a new song coming out July
12th called you and There is I believe that there
is a live Version of it on YouTube so you can
familiarize yourself with it before it comes
out on the 12th So excited about that. I've got
I'll be releasing new music throughout the rest
of the year And then I go back into the studio
in August to kind of round out an album So really
excited about all the new music that's coming.
So be on the lookout There should be new drops
every few months for a while Great stuff. Yeah
folks go to the website or you can find Danielle
on Facebook Instagram Spotify YouTube Again,
be sure to visit this shop section on her website
find something of interest to you and Man, I
usually I don't have a stopping point, but I
think I I think I've kept you too long I really
I'm like, oh my gosh, we gotta wrap this up Thanks
so much for having me this has been great and
I haven't done this this in a while I usually
Danielle some of the older episodes I would say
like okay now remember and then I don't really
know what I'm gonna say But I think this is a
good episode to do it. So we've already talked
about this but folks remember if You've got an
idea or if you like to write if you just like
to write whether it's creative writing poetry
songwriting Put it on paper Show it to somebody
that you care about get their opinion even if
they say hey look that needs a lot of work You
know, you're doing a good job and he's a lot
of work man. That's okay, but If you have something
you like to do Just do it get it out of your
head Get it out of your heart And sometimes,
I think you might sign on to this, Danielle,
don't know if we talk about journaling enough
in today's society. It's all kind of about promoting
the best versions of ourselves. It's okay to
keep a journal and write down your thoughts,
even if they're not, even if they're not for
the world to see. So yeah, I would say that and
to follow, follow your dreams. Yeah, definitely.
I second that. Okay. I hope you guys have enjoyed
this episode. We'll see you next Sunday on the
Dan Time podcast and Danielle Cosby, thank you
so much for being here today. Thanks for having
me. It's been fun.