WEBVTT 00:00:04.590 --> 00:00:08.730 Welcome back to the Dan Time podcast. I am your 00:00:08.730 --> 00:00:12.349 host, Dan McArdle. If you've been here all along, 00:00:12.669 --> 00:00:15.369 I say it every week, but sincerely, thank you. 00:00:15.529 --> 00:00:18.489 To plug this into your rotation and not miss 00:00:18.489 --> 00:00:21.809 an episode with everything that's out there that 00:00:21.809 --> 00:00:24.190 you could possibly be listening to, that means 00:00:24.190 --> 00:00:26.390 something to me. So thanks for being a listener. 00:00:26.829 --> 00:00:29.870 I hope this is fun. If it's your first time listening, 00:00:30.449 --> 00:00:34.200 I mostly talk to... I would say mostly, but commonly 00:00:34.200 --> 00:00:37.439 talk to people named Dan or something like it. 00:00:37.759 --> 00:00:41.399 That's the joke of the show, but it extends out. 00:00:41.479 --> 00:00:44.960 So the makeup of the guest is going to be songwriters 00:00:44.960 --> 00:00:48.840 named Dan, athletes named Dan or Danielle or 00:00:48.840 --> 00:00:51.280 what have you. And then some of the guests are 00:00:51.280 --> 00:00:55.119 directly from my network. Folks today, my guest, 00:00:55.299 --> 00:00:58.219 I have been trying for sounds like months, but 00:00:58.219 --> 00:01:01.140 this has also been kind of a back pocket guest. 00:01:01.450 --> 00:01:04.510 and I am so pleased today. This is somebody, 00:01:04.709 --> 00:01:08.790 a friend of mine, a longtime friend, regularly 00:01:08.790 --> 00:01:13.469 a part of text communications. I'm so happy that 00:01:13.469 --> 00:01:16.810 we've lined up our schedules today as we say 00:01:16.810 --> 00:01:21.790 in the South. Lowell Shapura is here today. Construction 00:01:21.790 --> 00:01:26.549 professional. He's a UAB graduate with a master's 00:01:26.549 --> 00:01:30.390 in engineering in construction management. Also 00:01:30.390 --> 00:01:33.959 a Believe it or not, in a fantasy football league 00:01:33.959 --> 00:01:38.000 that has spanned two decades, he's a seven time 00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:42.519 champion of this invitation only fantasy football 00:01:42.519 --> 00:01:44.980 league. Lowell, thank you so much for being here 00:01:44.980 --> 00:01:48.900 today. You're you're also a brother, a son and 00:01:48.900 --> 00:01:52.599 kind of a shadowy figure, which is good. He's 00:01:52.599 --> 00:01:55.540 a man of mystery. Who doesn't want to be a man 00:01:55.540 --> 00:01:58.620 of mystery in today's age? It's so easy to just 00:01:58.620 --> 00:02:01.849 plaster yourself all over the. place, but sometimes 00:02:01.849 --> 00:02:05.209 it's okay to hang back and create some mystique. 00:02:05.569 --> 00:02:08.090 Lowell, welcome to the show. I'm so happy to 00:02:08.090 --> 00:02:10.949 be talking to you today. Thank you, Dan. Yeah. 00:02:11.310 --> 00:02:13.949 And wow, what a, what an intro, you know, just, 00:02:14.069 --> 00:02:15.849 just for starters, I don't think you could find 00:02:15.849 --> 00:02:21.000 a more opposite name than Dan and what a perfect 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:25.419 way to branch out. And if I had my own podcast 00:02:25.419 --> 00:02:27.860 for the whole time, it would be a very short 00:02:27.860 --> 00:02:31.780 list of people, I can assure you. So I'm happy 00:02:31.780 --> 00:02:34.439 to do this. Thank you for inviting me. And I 00:02:34.439 --> 00:02:37.939 do remain in the shadows. I'm one of the people 00:02:37.939 --> 00:02:41.599 who like to just to watch, listen, learn, not 00:02:41.599 --> 00:02:45.379 in a creepy way. But I talk when I'm comfortable. 00:02:45.520 --> 00:02:49.379 So here I am, seven time champion. That's correct. 00:02:49.379 --> 00:02:53.560 I'm glad we got that right. I don't like to toot 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:56.099 my horn. Maybe I'm the Belichick of the league. 00:02:56.879 --> 00:03:01.520 You know, I mean, maybe the saving. I'll just 00:03:01.520 --> 00:03:04.860 leave it at that. Jim is my arch nemesis in the 00:03:04.860 --> 00:03:07.500 league, the Jim Hammers or not a living Todd, 00:03:07.800 --> 00:03:10.680 depending on who he's in. And just give a shout 00:03:10.680 --> 00:03:15.379 out to him. Well, Lowell, first question, actually, 00:03:15.400 --> 00:03:17.930 I had this kind of in the mix here, number three 00:03:17.930 --> 00:03:20.250 and number four of my notes, but I gotta ask 00:03:20.250 --> 00:03:22.370 right out the gate. We've talked about this or 00:03:22.370 --> 00:03:25.969 messaged about it. The name Lowell is you don't 00:03:25.969 --> 00:03:29.210 hear about it every day. Have you in your childhood 00:03:29.210 --> 00:03:33.449 or your adult life, by chance, just run into 00:03:33.449 --> 00:03:35.370 another Lowell, shaking hands with somebody, 00:03:35.490 --> 00:03:37.629 say, hey, I'm Lowell. And the other person said, 00:03:38.069 --> 00:03:42.969 me too. Has that ever happened? It has not no 00:03:42.969 --> 00:03:46.349 one of our one of our friends from school I knew 00:03:46.349 --> 00:03:48.610 his dad was named lol But obviously he you know, 00:03:48.710 --> 00:03:51.050 he was I would see him at the distance directly 00:03:51.050 --> 00:03:53.069 a basketball he was a coach and that was that 00:03:53.069 --> 00:03:56.729 was about the extent of it and You know look 00:03:56.729 --> 00:03:59.770 looking back. It's the most famous person I'm 00:03:59.770 --> 00:04:02.009 associated with his lolmather from wings and 00:04:02.009 --> 00:04:04.009 you know, it's a good show So I don't I don't 00:04:04.009 --> 00:04:07.990 mind that How about the it's a very unique name. 00:04:08.030 --> 00:04:12.460 It was given to me I want to say it was a friend 00:04:12.460 --> 00:04:15.060 of my father's way, way, way back. And that's 00:04:15.060 --> 00:04:18.139 where it came from. It's it's one of a kind, 00:04:18.259 --> 00:04:20.160 especially when you pair it with my last name. 00:04:20.699 --> 00:04:24.399 It's I always tell, you know, the stories when 00:04:24.399 --> 00:04:26.100 it's you're at a bar and you're trying to close 00:04:26.100 --> 00:04:28.279 the tab out and it's late at night and it's loud. 00:04:28.899 --> 00:04:30.800 And, you know, what's your name? Lowell. You're 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:32.779 trying to yell Lowell. And, you know, they can't 00:04:32.779 --> 00:04:34.040 understand you. And they're like, OK, well, give 00:04:34.040 --> 00:04:36.000 me your last name. And I'm like, oh, well, that's 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:37.980 probably not even that's not much better. That's 00:04:37.980 --> 00:04:42.870 not going to help you there either. How often 00:04:42.870 --> 00:04:45.310 have people tried to, speaking of your surname, 00:04:45.750 --> 00:04:49.189 try to pronounce it Shapiro, like say Robert 00:04:49.189 --> 00:04:55.990 Shapiro. Shapiro, Shapiro, shepherd. It's butchered. 00:04:56.410 --> 00:05:00.670 It's Shapiro. It's butchered. And it's just to 00:05:00.670 --> 00:05:04.029 be expected at this point. The most awkward times 00:05:04.029 --> 00:05:07.649 are obviously if you're waiting on food or. Starbucks, 00:05:07.689 --> 00:05:09.629 wherever they call your name at. I don't even 00:05:09.629 --> 00:05:11.850 bother listing my full name anymore. It's just 00:05:11.850 --> 00:05:14.069 something as simple as like a John. Maybe I'll 00:05:14.069 --> 00:05:16.649 start using Dan as an alias. That's actually 00:05:16.649 --> 00:05:22.730 a good idea. Also some prominent namesakes. Governor 00:05:22.730 --> 00:05:27.649 Lowell Weicker of Connecticut. I'm pulling this 00:05:27.649 --> 00:05:30.589 off of nameberry .com where people go to find 00:05:30.589 --> 00:05:33.529 some interesting names for their new arrivals. 00:05:33.550 --> 00:05:37.879 There's always our own Lowell Baron, right out 00:05:37.879 --> 00:05:42.379 of five County. That's right. He was the famous 00:05:42.379 --> 00:05:46.480 Alabama Senator who got in a fisticuffs on the 00:05:46.480 --> 00:05:48.439 Senate floor with another gentleman. I cannot 00:05:48.439 --> 00:05:51.300 remember who it was against, but that's, uh, 00:05:51.319 --> 00:05:53.980 that was part of his claim to fame. The name 00:05:53.980 --> 00:05:56.639 Lowell, and we won't spend a lot of time on this, 00:05:56.639 --> 00:05:58.399 but I always feel like I should, when I have 00:05:58.399 --> 00:06:03.579 Dan guests on and Danielle and so forth, when 00:06:03.579 --> 00:06:06.620 the episode is complete and it's out there, I 00:06:06.620 --> 00:06:08.519 always think, man, I should have asked more questions 00:06:08.519 --> 00:06:10.839 about the name. I always seem to just get into 00:06:10.839 --> 00:06:14.839 the meat of the episode without discussing this 00:06:14.839 --> 00:06:17.019 stuff, but I gotta, I always love looking at 00:06:17.019 --> 00:06:23.319 these names, and Lull peaked as a name for baby 00:06:23.319 --> 00:06:30.240 boys in the 1930s. Reached number 148, and all 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:34.250 these names have graphs to kind of gauge. where 00:06:34.250 --> 00:06:36.189 the name's headed, where it was, where it's going, 00:06:36.509 --> 00:06:42.029 and there is this sharp plummet around 1938 -1940 00:06:42.029 --> 00:06:45.389 and literally just kind of falls off a cliff. 00:06:45.490 --> 00:06:48.290 Yeah, I'm gonna have to look that up to see what 00:06:48.290 --> 00:06:51.790 scandal there was associated to just wipe it 00:06:51.790 --> 00:06:55.069 off the map. What other names, just let's just 00:06:55.069 --> 00:06:57.149 put into perspective, what other names are around 00:06:57.149 --> 00:07:01.449 it on this list? Okay, uh, where it ranks next 00:07:01.449 --> 00:07:05.620 to... 20 names similar to Lowell on again nameberry 00:07:05.620 --> 00:07:08.600 .com selected by our users that we're looking 00:07:08.600 --> 00:07:16.279 for other names like Lowell, Lloyd, Crane, Kennelly, 00:07:16.399 --> 00:07:21.759 I never heard Kennelly, Lionel, Halcyon, I don't 00:07:21.759 --> 00:07:25.360 draw the connection there, Barrett, Griffith, 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:31.310 oh there's a Lowey, L -O -E -W -Y. Lawrence? 00:07:31.569 --> 00:07:34.990 Yeah. Lawrence's a good one. Man, yeah. I would 00:07:34.990 --> 00:07:37.810 assume those are comparable to it, but based 00:07:37.810 --> 00:07:39.589 off of the same amount of people maybe being 00:07:39.589 --> 00:07:42.089 named that, which wouldn't surprise me because 00:07:42.089 --> 00:07:44.050 I don't really hear that many other names like 00:07:44.050 --> 00:07:46.230 that, except Lully might've been the most common 00:07:46.230 --> 00:07:48.990 off what you just listed. You know, I gotta say, 00:07:49.129 --> 00:07:52.389 Lull, and my oldest son, we named him Warren, 00:07:52.990 --> 00:07:55.889 and that's not a name that anybody's really grabbing 00:07:55.889 --> 00:08:00.439 in 2024. I love it. And I didn't really have 00:08:00.439 --> 00:08:02.480 a whole lot of influence in any of the names 00:08:02.480 --> 00:08:06.199 of my children it was what Natalie was in favor 00:08:06.199 --> 00:08:08.519 of and the only thing I could I had a little 00:08:08.519 --> 00:08:11.259 bit of veto power I'd say if she would float 00:08:11.259 --> 00:08:14.819 a name and and she knew I was absolutely against 00:08:14.819 --> 00:08:17.259 it I'd strike it off and just try to at least 00:08:17.259 --> 00:08:21.800 keep it to something that I could live with she's 00:08:21.800 --> 00:08:24.079 got to live with these children yeah the the 00:08:24.079 --> 00:08:26.500 uniqueness is is good and I and I do appreciate 00:08:26.649 --> 00:08:29.050 appreciate that especially with your both your 00:08:29.050 --> 00:08:32.549 son's names yeah i think it's really cool to 00:08:32.549 --> 00:08:36.529 have a name like yours that not everybody wears 00:08:36.529 --> 00:08:39.690 that name and it's not impossible to pronounce 00:08:39.690 --> 00:08:43.669 or spell which people will surprise you they've 00:08:43.669 --> 00:08:46.250 missed they have a hard time with my last name 00:08:46.250 --> 00:08:51.850 on the phone quite often or you know a local 00:08:51.850 --> 00:08:54.850 camera crew interviewing say your brother they 00:08:54.850 --> 00:09:00.659 have trouble spelling it But anyway, and then 00:09:00.659 --> 00:09:03.080 there's Lowell, Massachusetts, of course. I think 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:06.340 there's a sports team there. I can tell you that 00:09:06.340 --> 00:09:09.039 was a very prominent industrial town in the 1800s. 00:09:09.460 --> 00:09:12.259 So yeah, why it fell off, I don't know enough 00:09:12.259 --> 00:09:14.860 about, but it absolutely was a prominent town. 00:09:15.120 --> 00:09:17.539 And I would just imagine that's probably where 00:09:17.539 --> 00:09:20.580 most people around the 30s, 20s, 30s were named 00:09:20.580 --> 00:09:23.539 after that. Maybe even from people that lived 00:09:23.539 --> 00:09:26.919 in that area. And this is me just as an amateur 00:09:26.919 --> 00:09:28.539 anthropologist. I don't know what you even call 00:09:28.539 --> 00:09:31.139 it. You know, studying names and history of it. 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:33.659 Well, this show, you know, we have a lot of fun 00:09:33.659 --> 00:09:36.940 with the name Dan, but I actually, I enjoy your 00:09:36.940 --> 00:09:39.399 name. I like just the, the pairing, Lowell Shapura. 00:09:39.580 --> 00:09:42.039 It's just, you, you're never going to hear that 00:09:42.039 --> 00:09:45.799 again. Do you think there's another person with 00:09:45.799 --> 00:09:48.080 your same first and last name spelled exactly 00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:51.850 the same on the planet? I have thought that before 00:09:51.850 --> 00:09:54.570 and no, I absolutely think it's it is your head 00:09:54.570 --> 00:09:58.610 one of a kind unique and That's why i'm kind 00:09:58.610 --> 00:10:01.909 of vigilant in terms of uh Staying anonymous 00:10:01.909 --> 00:10:06.389 because it's pretty easy to search for me This 00:10:06.389 --> 00:10:09.590 is uh folks I gotta tell you again just because 00:10:09.590 --> 00:10:12.830 someone is in the network here and you know, 00:10:12.830 --> 00:10:16.730 they might still be a tough get Lowell is not 00:10:16.730 --> 00:10:20.950 easily had certainly for something like this. 00:10:22.269 --> 00:10:25.730 But anyway, moving along, our friendship runs, 00:10:26.610 --> 00:10:28.809 it dates back to your connection with my brother 00:10:28.809 --> 00:10:32.230 Travis, and then we kind of picked up and got 00:10:32.230 --> 00:10:36.070 to know each other at least, I mean, I remember 00:10:36.070 --> 00:10:39.190 you from 25 years ago in the house that I grew 00:10:39.190 --> 00:10:44.350 up in, and then prior to the turn of the 21st 00:10:44.350 --> 00:10:48.960 century, and then by about 2000, It seems like 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:53.019 eight or nine you and I would split off sometimes 00:10:53.019 --> 00:10:56.460 if we were at the same party or a couple times 00:10:56.460 --> 00:10:59.919 we'd go get an afternoon beer or something together 00:10:59.919 --> 00:11:04.399 and And then here we are years and years. I don't 00:11:04.399 --> 00:11:07.139 know how long this text chain has been going 00:11:07.139 --> 00:11:12.120 on but it yeah, it's absolutely incredible when 00:11:12.120 --> 00:11:14.559 you yeah, you put when you say it like that you 00:11:14.559 --> 00:11:16.480 put in perspective and you look at the calendar 00:11:16.480 --> 00:11:20.799 and you know, 2024, and it's like, my God, yeah, 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:23.779 I've known these guys for 25, 30 years. You know, 00:11:23.960 --> 00:11:26.500 Travis actually, and I'm forever grateful to 00:11:26.500 --> 00:11:29.080 your brother, Travis, he kind of took me under 00:11:29.080 --> 00:11:31.919 his wing at the high school, our senior year, 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:34.519 and this is kind of, I was somewhat new, kind 00:11:34.519 --> 00:11:36.940 of in and out, had some other issues going on, 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:39.519 health -related, at least. And, you know, that 00:11:39.519 --> 00:11:41.399 was kind of, your brother didn't have to do that. 00:11:41.529 --> 00:11:43.750 And you know how clicky our high school was and 00:11:43.750 --> 00:11:45.970 how hard it is to meet people in this town, at 00:11:45.970 --> 00:11:50.389 least Birmingham specific. So, you know, Travis, 00:11:50.570 --> 00:11:53.330 I think, invited me to sit at the lunch table 00:11:53.330 --> 00:11:55.950 with him and that was it. And here we are 30, 00:11:56.049 --> 00:12:00.330 you know, 25, 30 years later, sitting on a podcast 00:12:00.330 --> 00:12:04.509 with Travis's brother. You know, I knew that 00:12:04.509 --> 00:12:07.289 you guys go back that far, but I didn't even 00:12:07.289 --> 00:12:11.460 know that story. Yeah, in fact, there's a really 00:12:11.460 --> 00:12:15.700 funny funny photo of me and him in the senior 00:12:15.700 --> 00:12:19.039 yearbook And it's just it's almost quite cringy 00:12:19.039 --> 00:12:23.679 and embarrassing when you look at it Just you 00:12:23.679 --> 00:12:26.879 know, we could have almost been holding hands 00:12:26.879 --> 00:12:30.940 Wow, if I can unearth this photo from somebody 00:12:30.940 --> 00:12:34.840 this is going on the Dan time Well, definitely 00:12:34.840 --> 00:12:37.100 don't use that for the for the screenshot of 00:12:37.100 --> 00:12:45.090 this episode But, but, you know, I kind of going 00:12:45.090 --> 00:12:47.409 back to, you know, I vividly remember a kind 00:12:47.409 --> 00:12:49.169 of more recent, but it was a while ago. You know, 00:12:49.169 --> 00:12:52.029 I mean, it was still probably a decade ago. Uh, 00:12:52.029 --> 00:12:54.009 you know, I think we had just loved the Birmingham 00:12:54.009 --> 00:12:58.429 bowl. And, you know, we stopped by Dave's downtown 00:12:58.429 --> 00:13:01.509 Southside to watch, uh, is Joe Flacco in the 00:13:01.509 --> 00:13:02.909 playoffs. And I, you know, I thought that was 00:13:02.909 --> 00:13:04.950 a great kind of example of what you're talking 00:13:04.950 --> 00:13:07.879 about where we. Split off from the crowd or find 00:13:07.879 --> 00:13:09.940 ourselves together and just go and have a good 00:13:09.940 --> 00:13:12.879 time. That's right Yeah, that was that was a 00:13:12.879 --> 00:13:16.139 fun night. I think Warren was two months old 00:13:16.139 --> 00:13:20.759 I remember because this was 20 the end of 2017 00:13:20.759 --> 00:13:26.440 or maybe he was a month old so Speaking of flacco 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:33.580 Anytime I can interject flacco I Wish I could 00:13:33.580 --> 00:13:35.120 take a picture of my notes because I actually 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:39.580 have him I put a star next to his name star flacco 00:13:39.580 --> 00:13:43.080 comeback player of the year And that's just my 00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:45.379 reminder to ask you to get some your thoughts 00:13:45.379 --> 00:13:49.419 on Joe flacco I think it's just so easy. It's 00:13:49.419 --> 00:13:52.919 too easy to say He was signed off the couch. 00:13:52.919 --> 00:13:57.320 I think that's colloquially easy for people to 00:13:57.289 --> 00:13:59.889 to say I mean otherwise what's you got to talk 00:13:59.889 --> 00:14:02.730 about. You don't just jump off your sofa and 00:14:02.730 --> 00:14:06.049 go play in the NFL. You're doing some level of 00:14:06.049 --> 00:14:08.629 training which I think it really amounted to 00:14:08.629 --> 00:14:13.830 him just going out to a local facility or field 00:14:13.830 --> 00:14:16.190 and throwing the ball around with his brother. 00:14:16.389 --> 00:14:18.529 I mean there was a I think that was a lot of 00:14:18.529 --> 00:14:21.190 what was going on besides just conditioning. 00:14:22.230 --> 00:14:24.710 Yes, I absolutely agree that that's like the, 00:14:24.710 --> 00:14:26.509 you know, the cliche saying off the couch, but 00:14:26.509 --> 00:14:28.809 you know, then you see him on the field and, 00:14:29.129 --> 00:14:30.730 you know, he's not sitting there like some fat 00:14:30.730 --> 00:14:33.850 pot belly retired guy, you know, clearly he looks 00:14:33.850 --> 00:14:36.769 almost the same, maybe a few more gray hairs, 00:14:37.129 --> 00:14:40.389 but I saw it. There was a guy in exit that characterized 00:14:40.389 --> 00:14:44.210 Dan Strayley signing with the Cubs and now pitching 00:14:44.210 --> 00:14:47.429 in Iowa as being signed off the couch. I'm like, 00:14:47.490 --> 00:14:49.789 okay, this guy clearly has not been keeping up 00:14:49.789 --> 00:14:52.740 with everything. Strayley's been doing to get 00:14:52.740 --> 00:14:55.220 back into the game. Yeah, to me, it's it's kind 00:14:55.220 --> 00:14:58.399 of it's lazy. Of course, that's you know, that's 00:14:58.399 --> 00:15:02.139 the state of the media we're in today. I don't 00:15:02.139 --> 00:15:04.980 know if you want to hear my my opinion of the 00:15:04.980 --> 00:15:07.500 media that that might take this podcast into 00:15:07.500 --> 00:15:12.480 a dangerous. Oh, I'm ready. But you know, no. 00:15:13.139 --> 00:15:17.100 And but yes, sports journalism, especially it's 00:15:17.100 --> 00:15:20.730 driven by. Well, it's really not what we used 00:15:20.730 --> 00:15:23.809 to think of it as and it's kind of a shame but 00:15:23.809 --> 00:15:27.669 change is Inevitable and it's just part of it 00:15:27.669 --> 00:15:30.110 I guess and large and I'm largely speaking of 00:15:30.110 --> 00:15:32.929 ESPN, which was all a prominent You know part 00:15:32.929 --> 00:15:35.350 of our childhoods growing up and it's it's now 00:15:35.350 --> 00:15:37.750 just almost unwatchable to the point where it 00:15:37.750 --> 00:15:42.169 feels Like sports is secondary to the content 00:15:42.169 --> 00:15:46.470 Which is a shame? Yeah, remember back around 00:15:46.470 --> 00:15:50.509 2000 and I don't know one two up until maybe 00:15:50.509 --> 00:15:56.190 2005 or six when locally You I mean you had what 00:15:56.190 --> 00:15:59.230 was on like you said Sports Center, but locally 00:15:59.230 --> 00:16:05.210 you've got people at the Diplomat deli or Augustus 00:16:05.210 --> 00:16:07.929 hot dogs or something picking up Kevin Skarbinski 00:16:07.929 --> 00:16:10.370 and getting angry about something that Skarbinski 00:16:10.370 --> 00:16:13.370 wrote to get a rise out of them out of a newspaper. 00:16:13.389 --> 00:16:20.059 Yeah Yeah, yeah You know, I would always you 00:16:20.059 --> 00:16:21.700 know, I'd love looking at the box scores in the 00:16:21.700 --> 00:16:25.799 paper and Even even those games will have little 00:16:25.799 --> 00:16:27.820 little blurred write -ups just just a summary 00:16:27.820 --> 00:16:30.259 of the game and I love those and like now it's 00:16:30.259 --> 00:16:32.840 just If you have anything remotely like that 00:16:32.840 --> 00:16:34.720 in print, it's almost certainly gonna be done 00:16:34.720 --> 00:16:40.490 by AI It's very disappointing. Yeah And speaking 00:16:40.490 --> 00:16:42.710 of, and I know this is your old stomping ground, 00:16:42.730 --> 00:16:44.230 at least for a little bit, I don't know if you 00:16:44.230 --> 00:16:46.970 saw the news recently, the Birmingham News building 00:16:46.970 --> 00:16:51.190 downtown has been acquired by, who's that lawyer? 00:16:51.350 --> 00:16:53.250 Oh, the law firm of Alexander Shinora. Alexander 00:16:53.250 --> 00:16:57.029 Shinora. Right. Maybe I shouldn't have said his 00:16:57.029 --> 00:17:00.049 name, but yeah, I just like that. That's kind 00:17:00.049 --> 00:17:04.549 of a microcosm of where we are in society in 00:17:04.549 --> 00:17:09.009 terms of print and media and information. Yeah, 00:17:09.069 --> 00:17:14.769 it really saddens me more than anything. I mean, 00:17:15.289 --> 00:17:17.170 there's some writers at The Athletic that I think 00:17:17.170 --> 00:17:19.710 are doing a great job. I think some people still 00:17:19.710 --> 00:17:22.890 value good sports writing and sports coverage. 00:17:23.970 --> 00:17:30.130 Yeah, I do too. To me, and it's still the, I 00:17:30.130 --> 00:17:32.369 guess just the shocking, not shocking, but the 00:17:32.369 --> 00:17:35.569 put -off about The good writing it is behind 00:17:35.569 --> 00:17:37.710 a paywall and you're just not used to doing it 00:17:37.710 --> 00:17:39.670 Like I'm not opposed to paying that money, but 00:17:39.670 --> 00:17:43.630 it's just kind of like I just you know I'm sitting 00:17:43.630 --> 00:17:46.150 on the sofa. I'm waiting for something. I just 00:17:46.150 --> 00:17:48.170 want to read this quick article and now it's 00:17:48.170 --> 00:17:50.190 asking me to log in to finish it It's kind of 00:17:50.190 --> 00:17:53.430 like I think that's a good point. I seems like 00:17:53.430 --> 00:17:58.210 I consume my sports information in quick bursts 00:17:58.210 --> 00:18:00.089 when I only have about three and a half minutes 00:18:00.089 --> 00:18:02.420 and I really don't have those three minutes, 00:18:02.420 --> 00:18:05.140 but I'm trying to keep up and so you run into 00:18:05.140 --> 00:18:07.579 that paywall and you're thinking I just I don't 00:18:07.579 --> 00:18:11.779 have an extra minute to sort through this. I 00:18:11.779 --> 00:18:15.180 don't have time. I don't want to agree to the 00:18:15.180 --> 00:18:17.559 seven -day trial and then I now I got to remember 00:18:17.559 --> 00:18:20.220 to cancel it if I don't like it and I got to 00:18:20.220 --> 00:18:22.940 go I got to just let me just go to espn .com 00:18:22.940 --> 00:18:26.500 and yeah let me go to espn .com and see what 00:18:26.500 --> 00:18:31.049 Stephen A Smith has to say about it. Well Lola, 00:18:31.289 --> 00:18:33.930 how about, let's talk about some of the teams 00:18:33.930 --> 00:18:37.170 that you have been a fan of for many years. The 00:18:37.170 --> 00:18:40.630 Atlanta Braves, as we're talking today, two games 00:18:40.630 --> 00:18:44.349 back of the Phillies. Looks like the NL East, 00:18:44.769 --> 00:18:48.750 kind of early here, but might end up being a 00:18:48.750 --> 00:18:53.329 two team race. Yeah, it's, you know, being where 00:18:53.329 --> 00:18:55.990 we are obviously so close at land. So it's always 00:18:55.990 --> 00:18:58.630 been a team I followed. As a child, my honestly 00:18:58.630 --> 00:19:02.630 my true. Kind of number one team like I, you 00:19:02.630 --> 00:19:05.089 know, I start following all burned elder again. 00:19:05.170 --> 00:19:07.329 I can go to college here and then you know you 00:19:07.329 --> 00:19:09.609 follow other teams, but Atlanta has always been 00:19:09.609 --> 00:19:13.210 kind of that true. Close to your heart team and 00:19:13.210 --> 00:19:16.890 falling through the 90s. Was fun, get one World 00:19:16.890 --> 00:19:20.289 Series out of 14 pennants or whatever. I still 00:19:20.289 --> 00:19:23.250 consider that a disappointing tenure and I think 00:19:23.250 --> 00:19:26.789 that's people probably look at Braves fans. like 00:19:26.789 --> 00:19:29.470 me is delusional because of that mentality. But 00:19:29.470 --> 00:19:32.190 I think, you know, we expect more. And I kind 00:19:32.190 --> 00:19:33.670 of feel that way about this current team. You 00:19:33.670 --> 00:19:35.849 know, the last year, especially it was, you know, 00:19:35.849 --> 00:19:39.109 you had this prolific offense and they don't 00:19:39.109 --> 00:19:40.930 do anything with it. You get bumped out by the 00:19:40.930 --> 00:19:43.250 Phillies. And this is the second year in a row 00:19:43.250 --> 00:19:46.029 where it's happened. So fast forward to the offseason. 00:19:46.150 --> 00:19:48.670 What what did you know what the Braves do to 00:19:48.670 --> 00:19:52.730 to maybe counter the Phillies? Nothing. They 00:19:52.730 --> 00:19:55.170 had an arm Chris Sale. OK, great. He's doing 00:19:55.170 --> 00:19:58.920 great. You know, but I love something to look, 00:19:59.380 --> 00:20:01.200 they needed a little more, in my opinion. And 00:20:01.200 --> 00:20:04.539 honestly. It's almost a wash now when you look 00:20:04.539 --> 00:20:06.759 at it, because Strider's out, so sale really 00:20:06.759 --> 00:20:09.059 just kind of slides into that role that Strider 00:20:09.059 --> 00:20:10.880 had. So really, you're kind of back to where 00:20:10.880 --> 00:20:13.299 you were last year. You know, I felt one of the 00:20:13.299 --> 00:20:14.720 biggest moments that playoffs, if you remember, 00:20:14.839 --> 00:20:16.740 it was was that Harper was running the bases 00:20:16.740 --> 00:20:19.240 after the home run and he's just, you know, talking 00:20:19.240 --> 00:20:22.299 to talking. I don't know if we can say that on 00:20:22.299 --> 00:20:25.740 this or not, but, you know. He's fired up. He's 00:20:25.740 --> 00:20:28.039 yelling. He's talking. Every Braves fan is just 00:20:28.039 --> 00:20:29.180 kind of sitting there with their hands in their 00:20:29.180 --> 00:20:31.119 pockets, like kicking a rock in the dirt. And 00:20:31.119 --> 00:20:33.480 I'm just like, there is absolutely zero fire. 00:20:33.740 --> 00:20:36.539 These guys are all too nice. And, you know, that's 00:20:36.539 --> 00:20:38.700 what they lack, you know, versus the 90s, where 00:20:38.700 --> 00:20:41.259 you had guys like Tripper Jones or small surmatics 00:20:41.259 --> 00:20:45.059 where they would probably try to fight you. And 00:20:45.059 --> 00:20:47.400 that's what the Braves needed to add. And they 00:20:47.400 --> 00:20:49.039 didn't do it. And, you know, I guess there's 00:20:49.039 --> 00:20:50.519 still the, you know, it'll be interesting to 00:20:50.519 --> 00:20:52.220 see what they do in the trade deadline. It's, 00:20:52.220 --> 00:20:54.190 you know. They got the World Series a couple 00:20:54.190 --> 00:20:56.630 years ago. That was phenomenal. One of the most 00:20:56.630 --> 00:20:58.430 amazing runs I've ever seen, and I absolutely 00:20:58.430 --> 00:21:00.769 loved it. And I will always remember that Jorge 00:21:00.769 --> 00:21:03.910 Soler home run in the final game. It was just 00:21:03.910 --> 00:21:05.990 absolutely amazing. Gives me goosebumps thinking 00:21:05.990 --> 00:21:09.250 about it. What are your thoughts going back a 00:21:09.250 --> 00:21:12.529 ways to somebody like Dale Murphy not being in 00:21:12.529 --> 00:21:15.250 the Hall of Fame? I don't know that there's a, 00:21:15.329 --> 00:21:17.329 some people say there's a case to be made. I 00:21:17.329 --> 00:21:19.670 don't really know about that. What are your thoughts 00:21:19.670 --> 00:21:24.130 on Dale? That's that's a really good argument. 00:21:24.170 --> 00:21:26.430 A good I think that is one of the true like it 00:21:26.430 --> 00:21:29.069 could be. Yes, it could be no to me. I think 00:21:29.069 --> 00:21:32.549 is obviously as big as. Detriment is just not 00:21:32.549 --> 00:21:35.390 playing long enough, but the same time too. You 00:21:35.390 --> 00:21:37.849 know, back to back MVP is if I'm not mistaken, 00:21:37.890 --> 00:21:41.450 which I just I feel like it's very rare. I mean, 00:21:41.470 --> 00:21:44.509 it's rare to win more. It's rare to win one rare 00:21:44.509 --> 00:21:47.609 to win two very rare when I'm back to back. So 00:21:47.609 --> 00:21:51.140 he he literally was. the best player for two, 00:21:51.339 --> 00:21:54.099 three years season. And, you know, is that enough 00:21:54.099 --> 00:21:57.099 to put you in? Maybe some guys get in simply 00:21:57.099 --> 00:21:59.339 because they accrue stats over 20 years. I mean, 00:21:59.339 --> 00:22:01.240 is that right? I don't know. I think they're 00:22:01.240 --> 00:22:06.119 just stat accumulators. But I do love the Hall 00:22:06.119 --> 00:22:08.319 of Fame and baseball more than any other because 00:22:08.319 --> 00:22:11.299 they are so much more restrictive. Like, I feel 00:22:11.299 --> 00:22:13.500 like the NBA lets anybody in now. If you average 00:22:13.500 --> 00:22:16.460 10 points a game, you're a Hall of Fam. I have 00:22:16.460 --> 00:22:21.359 strong opinions about sports. Now the crime dog, 00:22:21.619 --> 00:22:25.240 Fred McGriff, finally got enshrined in Cooperstown. 00:22:26.019 --> 00:22:28.900 Yeah, and I love that guy. I'm happy for him. 00:22:29.559 --> 00:22:36.079 I was probably one or two years too young to 00:22:36.079 --> 00:22:40.279 really appreciate him. But where was he before 00:22:40.279 --> 00:22:46.579 that? He had a career in Tampa. Toronto? Toronto, 00:22:46.579 --> 00:22:49.170 yeah. So, cause I want to say he was in the Braves 00:22:49.170 --> 00:22:51.349 for, you know, maybe five or six years, but he 00:22:51.349 --> 00:22:53.930 had a lot of seasons somewhere else and put up 00:22:53.930 --> 00:22:57.569 comparable numbers. So it's well -deserved. He's 00:22:57.569 --> 00:23:02.569 a five time gold Glover and one of the best hitters 00:23:02.569 --> 00:23:05.329 of say the 1980s at least, but then on those 00:23:05.329 --> 00:23:08.690 90s Braves teams, I mean, if they were ever going 00:23:08.690 --> 00:23:14.529 to win, he was part of that 99 team. I think 00:23:14.529 --> 00:23:17.750 uh Was he there that long? I feel like that that's 00:23:17.750 --> 00:23:21.890 a little the 99 99 no No, he wouldn't have been 00:23:21.890 --> 00:23:25.509 on that was over 96. Yeah, cuz I I would have 00:23:25.509 --> 00:23:27.450 to go back and look I mean he maybe he did play 00:23:27.450 --> 00:23:30.470 well and do his 30s to he might even play until 00:23:30.470 --> 00:23:33.789 his 40s What about you know, his distinctive 00:23:33.789 --> 00:23:36.849 swing is very, you know, that's always a memorable 00:23:36.849 --> 00:23:39.750 thing and he he actually I remember There used 00:23:39.750 --> 00:23:42.509 to be these hitting instructional Classes or 00:23:42.509 --> 00:23:44.809 camps that he would do and he was in a commercial 00:23:44.809 --> 00:23:47.390 at least sponsoring and it was just this just 00:23:47.390 --> 00:23:50.289 classic 90s commercial you'd see you know that 00:23:50.289 --> 00:23:54.369 that sticks out my mind to About Freddy the crime 00:23:54.369 --> 00:23:57.809 dog not Freddy, but the crime dog Fred He was 00:23:57.809 --> 00:24:00.630 drafted by the Blue Jays play with them through 00:24:00.630 --> 00:24:03.950 the the end of the 80s and then the Padres before 00:24:03.950 --> 00:24:06.609 Coming over to Atlanta. I don't even know that 00:24:06.609 --> 00:24:09.390 the Padres. Yeah, just a few years. I just remember 00:24:09.390 --> 00:24:13.720 the baseball cards How about kind of a wasted 00:24:13.720 --> 00:24:17.660 two -year stint in San Diego back then yeah what 00:24:17.660 --> 00:24:22.259 about do you have a whether it's a brave or an 00:24:22.259 --> 00:24:25.880 NBA player NFL player how about somebody that 00:24:25.880 --> 00:24:31.619 you you didn't like maybe even loathed for a 00:24:31.619 --> 00:24:33.980 period of time and then you came around and you're 00:24:33.980 --> 00:24:36.920 like you know what either I like this guy or 00:24:36.920 --> 00:24:40.460 wow he's actually cracking the top tier I've 00:24:40.460 --> 00:24:45.519 I wasn't necessarily wrong on him, but I like 00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:50.519 him now. Yeah, I definitely could come up with 00:24:50.519 --> 00:24:52.039 some people. That would be something I'd have 00:24:52.039 --> 00:24:57.960 to think about for a minute. And he's not by 00:24:57.960 --> 00:25:00.480 any stretch one of my favorites. And I feel like 00:25:00.480 --> 00:25:03.579 I'm going in the opposite direction of the general 00:25:03.579 --> 00:25:07.140 feeling. I originally did not like Aaron Rodgers 00:25:07.140 --> 00:25:09.539 and then I've kind of warmed up to him when everybody 00:25:09.539 --> 00:25:11.680 has kind of gone sour on him. And, you know, 00:25:11.680 --> 00:25:15.380 I mainly have warmed up to him just because he's 00:25:15.380 --> 00:25:18.079 not politically correct. And that's okay with 00:25:18.079 --> 00:25:22.079 me. You know, too many people are afraid of saying 00:25:22.079 --> 00:25:24.819 what they feel or believe and he does not. Whether 00:25:24.819 --> 00:25:26.819 or not you agree with it, that's not the point 00:25:26.819 --> 00:25:29.460 I'm making. I just like the fact that he's not 00:25:29.460 --> 00:25:31.880 afraid to say it. But in terms of on the field, 00:25:32.039 --> 00:25:34.720 no, he's always been good. I just I kind of never 00:25:34.720 --> 00:25:36.819 liked him on the field, especially when he was 00:25:36.819 --> 00:25:40.099 with the Packers. Yeah, I think I had Rogers 00:25:40.099 --> 00:25:44.180 on my fantasy team for the first time. I don't 00:25:44.180 --> 00:25:45.980 think it was it wasn't last year because he was 00:25:45.980 --> 00:25:48.579 hurt all year, but the year before never been 00:25:48.579 --> 00:25:51.880 personally a fan of Rogers. But then again, there's 00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:55.400 when you're a Joe Flacco fan, it's just not a 00:25:55.400 --> 00:25:58.079 lot of bandwidth left for another quarterback. 00:25:58.900 --> 00:26:03.019 Yeah. I mean, you're all in. This is not about 00:26:03.019 --> 00:26:06.980 me, but going back to Flacco, it is fun, whoever 00:26:06.980 --> 00:26:09.140 your favorite player is, or someone that you 00:26:09.140 --> 00:26:12.839 closely follow, and they're kind of on a, they're 00:26:12.839 --> 00:26:20.660 in limbo maybe, or perceived to be toast, or 00:26:20.660 --> 00:26:24.519 their value has plummeted, and then they make 00:26:24.519 --> 00:26:27.200 a resurgence. It's a lot of fun watching sports. 00:26:28.359 --> 00:26:31.539 And I mean that could be a team also that you 00:26:31.539 --> 00:26:34.599 get behind and I mean well You've been an Auburn 00:26:34.599 --> 00:26:38.579 fan for many many years You've been through a 00:26:38.579 --> 00:26:42.859 lot of a lot of turmoil with this team a lot 00:26:42.859 --> 00:26:45.420 of Saturday Afternoons and evenings that I'm 00:26:45.420 --> 00:26:48.119 sure you would like to to have seen played out 00:26:48.119 --> 00:26:51.359 differently, but also been a part of some some 00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:54.200 great experiences on the planes, maybe at the 00:26:54.200 --> 00:26:57.720 games and What's what's it? Because I know that 00:26:57.720 --> 00:27:01.500 recent history, it's been been difficult, but 00:27:01.500 --> 00:27:05.660 a favorite Auburn memory. Whether it's at a game 00:27:05.660 --> 00:27:09.900 or just a team that you liked a lot. Yeah, well, 00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:14.759 it might be the the easy button, but. Obviously, 00:27:14.900 --> 00:27:19.160 the the Cam Newton season was incredible. I mean, 00:27:19.160 --> 00:27:22.519 it was memorable and I almost remember I never 00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:24.900 I didn't go to a game live that season, but. 00:27:25.409 --> 00:27:29.029 we all were we're gathering at various people's 00:27:29.029 --> 00:27:31.890 houses throughout and it was just You would see 00:27:31.890 --> 00:27:34.130 things kind of each week that you're just kind 00:27:34.130 --> 00:27:36.950 of amazed you and you know I think what was even 00:27:36.950 --> 00:27:40.069 more amazing about him is nobody Knew who the 00:27:40.069 --> 00:27:41.970 guy was he just kind of came out of nowhere He 00:27:41.970 --> 00:27:44.869 was this kind of transfer from Florida and he 00:27:44.869 --> 00:27:47.170 transferred because he got in trouble for some 00:27:47.170 --> 00:27:48.950 laptop and I don't even know the story about 00:27:48.950 --> 00:27:51.789 the laptop and then you know But then some of 00:27:51.789 --> 00:27:53.490 the things you see and one of the most memorable 00:27:53.490 --> 00:27:58.029 plays was him you know 6070 yard run against 00:27:58.029 --> 00:28:00.829 LSU and you know he's out running Patrick Peterson 00:28:00.829 --> 00:28:03.529 who's probably I'm not gonna maybe not a Hall 00:28:03.529 --> 00:28:07.490 of Famer but perennial pro bowler and NFL and 00:28:07.490 --> 00:28:10.349 just like this this is unbelievable and I you 00:28:10.349 --> 00:28:13.029 know I at the time it was the single greatest 00:28:13.029 --> 00:28:14.809 season for college football of course now you 00:28:14.809 --> 00:28:17.269 see some of the numbers like burrow put up his 00:28:17.269 --> 00:28:19.809 one year and I think that probably surpassed 00:28:19.809 --> 00:28:22.109 it hell even Mac Jones I think broke records 00:28:22.109 --> 00:28:25.579 his one year. But I will say my favorite player 00:28:25.579 --> 00:28:29.059 without Dow from Auburn was Cadillac. And that 00:28:29.059 --> 00:28:32.640 2004 was also incredible. And I think we absolutely 00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:36.180 got hosed, should have been in the final against 00:28:36.180 --> 00:28:40.220 USC. But, you know, that was kind of the BCS 00:28:40.220 --> 00:28:45.059 era and showed how useless it was. Wow. Yeah. 00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:47.559 But Cadillac, I mean, how good of a name is that 00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:49.099 for a football player? And then the way he ran 00:28:49.099 --> 00:28:52.609 was just absolutely amazing. And I hated his 00:28:52.609 --> 00:28:55.309 NFL career got cut short. He was drafted by Gruden 00:28:55.309 --> 00:28:57.390 and the Bucks and he had a, you know, he had 00:28:57.390 --> 00:29:00.250 some highlights, but he, his knees just, he had, 00:29:00.450 --> 00:29:04.430 he had spaghetti knees. Who was that player? 00:29:04.549 --> 00:29:08.930 There was a tight end noodle knees that we, somebody 00:29:08.930 --> 00:29:15.250 read. Yeah. Uh, Pettigrew. It was you, you, uh, 00:29:15.430 --> 00:29:18.430 somehow one season in fantasy, you kept. I feel 00:29:18.430 --> 00:29:20.630 like you kept or maybe it's two or three seasons. 00:29:20.670 --> 00:29:22.529 You kept ended up with this guy and he just always 00:29:22.529 --> 00:29:29.049 kept getting hurt. Yep, that's seems to happen. 00:29:30.349 --> 00:29:34.170 More often than not, speaking of fantasy football 00:29:34.170 --> 00:29:39.710 20 years in. What a run? I mean, it's just. I 00:29:39.710 --> 00:29:43.190 have not won a championship. And my involvement 00:29:43.190 --> 00:29:47.250 in the league dates back to the end of 2005. 00:29:48.710 --> 00:29:51.529 very embarrassing admission there but you've 00:29:51.529 --> 00:29:55.329 racked up seven championships we are just over 00:29:55.329 --> 00:29:59.230 three months away from the John Hannah Invitational 00:29:59.230 --> 00:30:02.730 Fantasy Football League draft we've got some 00:30:02.730 --> 00:30:06.869 secret not so secret recordings of last year's 00:30:06.869 --> 00:30:10.329 draft that Jim has been pleading with me to release 00:30:10.329 --> 00:30:12.329 and gotta be honest I haven't even listened to 00:30:12.329 --> 00:30:14.569 them yet I'm not sure that I want to but for 00:30:14.569 --> 00:30:18.210 those of you listening Might hang on to this 00:30:18.210 --> 00:30:20.970 and stick that behind some sort of paywall. This 00:30:20.970 --> 00:30:25.890 is Supposed to be a unfiltered. Yeah, Dan time 00:30:25.890 --> 00:30:30.009 is is I'm going to great lengths to protect some 00:30:30.009 --> 00:30:35.769 of the shows I listen to and I won't name them 00:30:35.769 --> 00:30:39.269 but Everybody's tired of the ads you skip through 00:30:39.269 --> 00:30:41.849 them. You hit the 32nd button. You hit it again 00:30:41.849 --> 00:30:44.150 You hit it six times. Nobody wants to hear that. 00:30:44.150 --> 00:30:47.220 So you're not gonna hear that on Dan time as 00:30:47.220 --> 00:30:50.079 long as I can prevent that from happening, and 00:30:50.079 --> 00:30:52.900 you won't pay for anything, and you'll get bonus 00:30:52.900 --> 00:30:54.720 episodes, and you won't have to pay for those, 00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:58.380 or subscribe, just tell me a five -star review 00:30:58.380 --> 00:31:01.039 every once in a while, would you? But anyway, 00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:04.400 what was I getting at? Yeah, so there's some 00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:06.519 draft recordings from last year, we'll see, if 00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:08.599 I can clean them up, I may stick them out there. 00:31:09.599 --> 00:31:12.160 But just over three months away from draft day, 00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:17.089 when do you start? preparing a researching are 00:31:17.089 --> 00:31:22.049 you doing it right now I know that you have some 00:31:22.049 --> 00:31:26.390 proprietary spreadsheets we've seen some of them 00:31:26.390 --> 00:31:30.450 many that we have not seen this this is I mean 00:31:30.450 --> 00:31:33.690 I love fantasy sports particularly football and 00:31:33.690 --> 00:31:36.549 you obviously do too and you're very very good 00:31:36.549 --> 00:31:41.450 at it how soon do you start really locking in 00:31:41.450 --> 00:31:45.930 yeah The older we get, obviously, it's been harder. 00:31:46.690 --> 00:31:51.470 But 10 years ago, it was almost 24 -7, just you're 00:31:51.470 --> 00:31:55.509 trying to keep up with names and new teams, moves, 00:31:55.690 --> 00:31:58.809 and whatnot, and kind of stuff I do with my job. 00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:02.200 always in spreadsheets. And so that, to me, that's 00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:04.259 kind of fun as well, just even kind of coming 00:32:04.259 --> 00:32:06.440 up with new ways to graph something or chart 00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:09.960 something. But I will, let me clear up the, you 00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:11.539 know, I didn't use a spreadsheet in last year's 00:32:11.539 --> 00:32:13.920 draft. I felt like there were whispers behind 00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:15.759 my back that maybe that was the reason why I 00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:19.640 was winning. So I decided to forego it and, you 00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:22.420 know, still ended up winning. Say what you will, 00:32:22.940 --> 00:32:25.279 maybe, you know, maybe it was luck, who knows. 00:32:26.019 --> 00:32:28.420 Jim will say it's because I picked up puka off 00:32:28.420 --> 00:32:30.859 the waiver wire before he did. I mean, that's 00:32:30.859 --> 00:32:35.480 okay. I Remember Jim being very upset that was 00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:40.319 it Travis that scooped up Russell Wilson a Couple 00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:42.339 picks before he he had his heart set on him and 00:32:42.339 --> 00:32:46.460 then we all saw what happened. Yeah that experiment 00:32:46.460 --> 00:32:52.500 Kind of like you you hope everybody forgot about 00:32:52.500 --> 00:32:56.069 that like oh wow Oh yeah, I always thought I 00:32:56.069 --> 00:33:03.569 was going to do bad. Now it's kind of, and honestly 00:33:03.569 --> 00:33:09.390 too, especially back in the 25, 26, 27 years, 00:33:09.529 --> 00:33:12.670 and I'm not ashamed to admit it now, I used to 00:33:12.670 --> 00:33:16.809 play Madden back then, and that was always a 00:33:16.809 --> 00:33:23.150 great way to see actually a fairly accurate analysis 00:33:23.150 --> 00:33:26.789 of a player. As much as I dislike EA right now, 00:33:27.230 --> 00:33:29.829 their predatory practices in terms of monetizing 00:33:29.829 --> 00:33:32.269 games. And I don't play games anymore, but I 00:33:32.269 --> 00:33:36.109 know what's going on. And that's another conversation, 00:33:36.349 --> 00:33:38.349 too. But say what you will about them as a company. 00:33:38.450 --> 00:33:40.670 They definitely knew how to analyze players. 00:33:40.769 --> 00:33:42.730 And I don't know. And that's what's amazing about 00:33:42.730 --> 00:33:44.410 it. I don't know how they do it, how maybe they 00:33:44.410 --> 00:33:46.730 have professional scouts. But that was always, 00:33:46.730 --> 00:33:50.799 to me, kind of an advantage, I think, just. having 00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:53.059 this intimate knowledge of each player almost 00:33:53.059 --> 00:33:56.000 because you would play the game and that was 00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:58.339 back before it really had the magazines and stuff. 00:33:59.019 --> 00:34:01.740 So I guess the magazines almost take the place 00:34:01.740 --> 00:34:05.480 of the game now. What do you think about the 00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:10.920 physical media like the fantasy football circulars 00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:13.579 and the magazines? When was the last time you 00:34:13.579 --> 00:34:18.050 bought one before a draft? Oh, I love it. To 00:34:18.050 --> 00:34:20.130 me, that's almost a, it's a guilty pleasure. 00:34:20.389 --> 00:34:23.010 It's, you know, I'll go to CVS and the weekend 00:34:23.010 --> 00:34:26.909 or the, you know, a couple nights before. And, 00:34:26.989 --> 00:34:29.269 you know, I usually try to get to at least, you 00:34:29.269 --> 00:34:32.769 know, just see differing opinions, but honestly 00:34:32.769 --> 00:34:35.650 now, and this is the way it is with a lot of 00:34:35.650 --> 00:34:40.050 things, you know, selection of just various things. 00:34:40.250 --> 00:34:42.769 It's like shrunk down enormously. So like now 00:34:42.769 --> 00:34:46.619 there's only, you might find two. different publications 00:34:46.619 --> 00:34:49.940 and Honestly, if you probably dug into you probably 00:34:49.940 --> 00:34:51.719 find out they're all owned by the same company 00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:54.219 or something And I just I don't want to know 00:34:54.219 --> 00:34:59.840 that information. Oh, yeah No, you're right You 00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:02.760 know and then honestly And you know what to expect 00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:05.320 when you read these magazines II. It's really 00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:08.300 pretty pictures Once you dive into it. You're 00:35:08.300 --> 00:35:09.880 like, yeah, it's not really a whole lot of substance 00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:13.010 in here. It's just a bunch of numbers that some 00:35:13.010 --> 00:35:15.369 guy probably has a program that throws it together 00:35:15.369 --> 00:35:18.329 for him. And then, you know, they act like they're 00:35:18.329 --> 00:35:22.630 experts. They're not. But there is that nostalgia 00:35:22.630 --> 00:35:26.010 factor. And I'm with you, even if it's if I'm 00:35:26.010 --> 00:35:30.349 spending the $8 .95 or $9 .95 for the magazine 00:35:30.349 --> 00:35:34.789 and I'm just going to thumb through it and make 00:35:34.789 --> 00:35:38.210 my markings in it that day, that evening. Hey, 00:35:38.610 --> 00:35:42.510 it's worth it to me. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's fun 00:35:42.510 --> 00:35:44.829 and that's part of the fun and that is the most 00:35:44.829 --> 00:35:49.170 fun is the draft date. Like that's what makes 00:35:49.170 --> 00:35:51.570 it all worthwhile. I mean, the camaraderie, the 00:35:51.570 --> 00:35:54.909 getting together, I absolutely love that Terrence 00:35:54.909 --> 00:35:58.929 calls in. I think it's, you know, the dedication 00:35:58.929 --> 00:36:00.869 he showed one or two years where he actually 00:36:00.869 --> 00:36:04.309 drove back was very commendable and awesome, 00:36:04.349 --> 00:36:07.050 but it's just not, yeah, it doesn't make sense 00:36:07.050 --> 00:36:09.190 for him to do it now the older we get. So I love 00:36:09.190 --> 00:36:11.949 that he's able to call in and Still be part of 00:36:11.949 --> 00:36:14.210 it. And that's you know, honestly one of the 00:36:14.210 --> 00:36:16.909 highlights of my year And I hope it continues. 00:36:17.530 --> 00:36:19.849 Oh, I'm right there with you. I think such a 00:36:19.849 --> 00:36:22.969 big part of our league is The camaraderie like 00:36:22.969 --> 00:36:26.949 you said we do the live draft 80 90 percent of 00:36:26.949 --> 00:36:29.510 the league is there in a room together. How often 00:36:29.510 --> 00:36:33.750 does that ever happen in your life? Yeah at our 00:36:33.750 --> 00:36:36.690 our age now and our responsibilities and commitments 00:36:36.690 --> 00:36:40.610 and and At least half the members, you know, 00:36:40.829 --> 00:36:43.869 myself, your brothers and dad included, I mean, 00:36:44.829 --> 00:36:48.550 for 20 plus years maybe, or I think I joined 00:36:48.550 --> 00:36:54.570 in 06 maybe if that's 05 or 06. So a lot of the 00:36:54.570 --> 00:36:57.670 same quote unquote founding members been doing 00:36:57.670 --> 00:37:00.269 it for that long. That's really special to you 00:37:00.269 --> 00:37:02.909 because, I mean, I read comments all the time 00:37:02.909 --> 00:37:06.329 on Reddit and I read Reddit in my spare time. 00:37:06.409 --> 00:37:08.369 Not all the time. Twitter, Reddit, whatever. 00:37:09.530 --> 00:37:13.550 I think there's a big issue with just loneliness 00:37:13.550 --> 00:37:16.570 these days and people not having friends. And 00:37:16.570 --> 00:37:19.150 that's kind of the opposite of what we got going 00:37:19.150 --> 00:37:20.690 on with this league. And that's what's awesome 00:37:20.690 --> 00:37:24.750 about it. You're absolutely right. This day and 00:37:24.750 --> 00:37:28.829 age, you can be very connected with people. And 00:37:28.829 --> 00:37:32.389 I think it's perfectly fine to be exchanging 00:37:32.389 --> 00:37:36.139 text messages most of the year. But if you're 00:37:36.139 --> 00:37:38.980 listening to the show and you've got people that 00:37:38.980 --> 00:37:41.719 you're messaging with about sports or whatever 00:37:41.719 --> 00:37:45.400 your interests are, try to get, whether it's 00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:47.719 a fantasy football league or something, plug 00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:52.360 in one, could be just one event, one get together 00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:56.340 a year. And it is so worth it. Like I said, you 00:37:56.340 --> 00:37:59.320 don't have to get together that often, but just 00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:02.880 looking forward to that event is a big part of 00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:07.329 it as well. and we shake hands, we give the hugs, 00:38:07.809 --> 00:38:10.789 and everyone's got whatever B -Y -O -B, they 00:38:10.789 --> 00:38:12.590 got the stuff that they brought, and the food 00:38:12.590 --> 00:38:14.630 that they brought, and the laughs, and before 00:38:14.630 --> 00:38:17.050 you know it, the night's over. But some of it, 00:38:17.050 --> 00:38:20.250 a lot of it is just being excited about that 00:38:20.250 --> 00:38:24.289 draft date, because as we've seen, the older 00:38:24.289 --> 00:38:28.510 you get, the pressures around you in your life, 00:38:28.650 --> 00:38:31.349 other areas of your life start to mount, and 00:38:31.349 --> 00:38:34.570 things aren't as... Loose as they used to be 00:38:34.570 --> 00:38:37.730 and it's an opportunity to loosen up and you 00:38:37.730 --> 00:38:40.309 know as we've seen I'm sure this has happened 00:38:40.309 --> 00:38:44.070 to other groups of guys groups of girls things 00:38:44.070 --> 00:38:48.510 happen and you lose friends and various reasons 00:38:48.510 --> 00:38:52.349 illness or accidents or things like that and 00:38:52.349 --> 00:38:56.650 You have to say goodbye to friends and I think 00:38:56.650 --> 00:38:59.949 that especially is is important to have a bond 00:38:59.949 --> 00:39:04.199 with a group of people who have, they've got 00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:07.199 that thing in common. You know, we were all good 00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:09.280 friends with that guy, you know, or that girl, 00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:12.820 like we respect their memory. We want to preserve 00:39:12.820 --> 00:39:16.719 their memory. And that, I think that helps getting 00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:21.099 older and going through grief on any kind of 00:39:21.099 --> 00:39:23.139 level where you kind of have someone who gets 00:39:23.139 --> 00:39:26.460 it. They're like, yeah, yeah, I miss him too. 00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:31.650 Yeah. Yeah, it's a good way to reminisce about 00:39:31.650 --> 00:39:35.230 memories with those people and just kind of a 00:39:35.230 --> 00:39:38.789 safe space in general. Just be yourself and you're 00:39:38.789 --> 00:39:41.329 not worried about saying something wrong in front 00:39:41.329 --> 00:39:44.210 of somebody. That's the beauty about it. Just 00:39:44.210 --> 00:39:46.369 being around people you love and you're comfortable 00:39:46.369 --> 00:39:48.750 around and. you get to circle the day on the 00:39:48.750 --> 00:39:51.510 calendar. So it is almost like a second Christmas 00:39:51.510 --> 00:39:53.369 and I, you know, we all joke about, you know, 00:39:53.670 --> 00:39:56.110 the pre -draft nights, like, you know, everybody's, 00:39:56.190 --> 00:39:58.829 you know, we're giddy and we're like, you know, 00:39:59.349 --> 00:40:03.809 and then even the culmination of, you know, after 00:40:03.809 --> 00:40:06.650 the draft, everybody's like waiting on the commission 00:40:06.650 --> 00:40:09.690 to enter the player so we can all see our grades. 00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:15.059 So it's just yeah, it's almost a weekend event, 00:40:15.059 --> 00:40:17.559 really. And to me, kind of what makes it better, 00:40:18.159 --> 00:40:20.619 especially with kind of just expansion talks 00:40:20.619 --> 00:40:22.780 and everything like we there used to not ever 00:40:22.780 --> 00:40:25.800 be games on at the same time. But now that we 00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:28.440 have a game on every weekend now almost at least 00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:30.300 that's what football the direction is going. 00:40:30.659 --> 00:40:32.280 We always get that in the background too now. 00:40:32.300 --> 00:40:33.980 And to me, that just adds to it. It's like the 00:40:33.980 --> 00:40:36.400 first weekend of college maybe. And, you know, 00:40:36.500 --> 00:40:40.840 so there's football everywhere. And it's just 00:40:40.840 --> 00:40:44.150 guys. It is. That's one thing that I gotta say 00:40:44.150 --> 00:40:47.090 I envy about a couple of the guests that I've 00:40:47.090 --> 00:40:49.829 had on here previously, Dan Strayley, Dan Winkler. 00:40:50.170 --> 00:40:53.409 You know, if you're a professional athlete, what 00:40:53.409 --> 00:40:57.130 other job, what other profession are you basically 00:40:57.130 --> 00:41:00.670 hanging out with a group of guys, a large group 00:41:00.670 --> 00:41:03.110 of guys, every day? And of course, you gotta 00:41:03.110 --> 00:41:05.570 deal with the personalities that you don't like, 00:41:05.590 --> 00:41:10.090 but it's not every day that you get nine or 10... 00:41:11.130 --> 00:41:14.030 men into a room together and the way that we 00:41:14.030 --> 00:41:18.289 talk, and I don't think we're quite as nasty 00:41:18.289 --> 00:41:21.190 with the language and the subject matters, maybe 00:41:21.190 --> 00:41:24.849 we were when we were 24, but it's healthy. I 00:41:24.849 --> 00:41:27.349 think it's very healthy for men to get together 00:41:27.349 --> 00:41:30.449 and have a little fun and let it hang out a little 00:41:30.449 --> 00:41:33.210 bit, and you're not in a work setting, you're 00:41:33.210 --> 00:41:36.090 not trying to be careful not to say something. 00:41:37.010 --> 00:41:41.329 Your mom's not there, you're... It's a good thing 00:41:41.329 --> 00:41:43.829 your sister's not there, your wife's not there. 00:41:45.389 --> 00:41:47.510 Yeah, you're not, you know, you're not around 00:41:47.510 --> 00:41:50.449 work people. It's just, yeah, a good escape. 00:41:50.889 --> 00:41:54.230 It's almost a vacation right down the street, 00:41:54.389 --> 00:41:57.650 kind of. And, you know, if you love sports, that's 00:41:57.650 --> 00:42:01.650 why you do it. So it's just a perfect day. Well, 00:42:01.730 --> 00:42:05.570 I agree. It's Christmas for adults. I think Jim 00:42:05.570 --> 00:42:08.599 said something to that effect. that's pretty 00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:12.460 much spot on August 20 something. Yeah, you know, 00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:13.840 there's always that there's a funny scene in 00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:15.800 that movie knocked up where she thinks her husband's 00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:18.480 having an affair and she tracks him down and 00:42:18.480 --> 00:42:21.260 you know, kind of goes into this strange person's 00:42:21.260 --> 00:42:24.179 house and all the lights are off. But you know, 00:42:24.179 --> 00:42:26.420 there's one room where the lights are on and 00:42:26.420 --> 00:42:28.380 the doors close and you can hear muffled voices. 00:42:28.380 --> 00:42:30.559 And so she's, you know, going in there thinking 00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:33.239 to expect the worst. And it's just a group of 00:42:33.239 --> 00:42:37.320 guys having a baseball fantasy draft. And I just 00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:41.840 thought that was hilarious. A few more questions 00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:45.739 here, just maybe some Dan Time questions. And 00:42:45.739 --> 00:42:48.679 I think it goes without saying that we'll do 00:42:48.679 --> 00:42:52.719 a follow -up episode. Because with your seven 00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:55.860 championships for keeping score on the Dan Time 00:42:55.860 --> 00:42:59.119 podcast, I mean, Jim's appeared, I think, three 00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:02.519 times. And we've got to get you up there neck 00:43:02.519 --> 00:43:06.070 and neck. As far as appearance, yeah, we need 00:43:06.070 --> 00:43:09.949 a we need to we need to do a gym and you know 00:43:09.949 --> 00:43:13.010 Have Jim on and myself on and we can at the same 00:43:13.010 --> 00:43:16.130 time debate the qualities of our championships, 00:43:16.269 --> 00:43:18.650 you know, but my year was better than this year 00:43:18.650 --> 00:43:25.409 and What was the best team And I say that jokingly, 00:43:25.429 --> 00:43:27.110 but I would absolutely probably have a great 00:43:27.110 --> 00:43:31.309 time doing that Well, it's it's gonna happen 00:43:31.309 --> 00:43:34.380 now. It never occurred to me to have two guests 00:43:34.380 --> 00:43:39.019 on at the same time, possibly hashing it out. 00:43:41.320 --> 00:43:46.059 Great material for the podcast. Some kind of 00:43:46.059 --> 00:43:49.539 random questions here. If I offered you one of 00:43:49.539 --> 00:43:53.679 those Nestle Drumstick ice cream cones or an 00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:56.119 ice cream sandwich, which one are you going for? 00:43:56.760 --> 00:43:59.480 Oh, the cone, without doubt. You know which ones 00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:03.000 I'm talking about? I do. In fact, I'll, you know, 00:44:03.079 --> 00:44:05.219 sometimes buy them myself. And, you know, as 00:44:05.219 --> 00:44:08.320 a 42 year old man, it's, I'm not, you know, at 00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:10.820 the checkout line with, you know, maybe two boxes 00:44:10.820 --> 00:44:14.119 of it, actually. But of course, now it's just, 00:44:14.619 --> 00:44:17.079 you realize how bad they are for you, but man, 00:44:17.099 --> 00:44:20.400 I would absolutely demolish those over an ice 00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:22.480 cream sandwich, I think are highly overrated, 00:44:22.500 --> 00:44:25.360 to be honest with you. They are. At least the 00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:28.679 traditional ones. What about when you were now 00:44:28.679 --> 00:44:31.760 they have you know cookies and you know, you 00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:35.699 can do different flavored ice cream and yeah 00:44:35.699 --> 00:44:40.219 What are your thoughts on Mentos? I think I tried 00:44:40.219 --> 00:44:42.239 them once about 20 years ago and I was thinking 00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:44.619 why did what is it with these things? They're 00:44:44.619 --> 00:44:48.559 not there's so many better products better Treats. 00:44:48.619 --> 00:44:50.039 Yeah, you could buy. What are your thoughts on 00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:53.809 Mentos? And if I feel like they're It's almost 00:44:53.809 --> 00:44:55.809 an accident. Like somebody was trying to come 00:44:55.809 --> 00:44:59.150 up with a mint. It was chewy and it ended up 00:44:59.150 --> 00:45:02.989 not being a mint. It just ended up being a big 00:45:02.989 --> 00:45:06.409 skittle, kind of. To me, the only good thing 00:45:06.409 --> 00:45:09.070 about those were their commercials back in the 00:45:09.070 --> 00:45:14.110 90s. I don't know anybody that seeks a Mentos. 00:45:14.289 --> 00:45:18.670 Like, man, I gotta go get a pack of these. It 00:45:18.670 --> 00:45:21.369 feels like they're holding something back on 00:45:21.369 --> 00:45:25.369 the flavor. It's like, man, what, just pack the 00:45:25.369 --> 00:45:28.250 punch. I mean, it's, what are we doing here? 00:45:29.110 --> 00:45:31.489 Yeah. It's kind of a mix of gum and, you know, 00:45:31.489 --> 00:45:34.289 it's not, it's, yeah, it's, it's really just 00:45:34.289 --> 00:45:40.309 a glob of lightly flavored sugar. How do you 00:45:40.309 --> 00:45:44.309 feel when you're walking down a downtown street, 00:45:44.750 --> 00:45:47.010 maybe you don't realize it, but you just walk 00:45:47.010 --> 00:45:51.570 past a cigar bar and, and you, or anytime you 00:45:51.570 --> 00:45:55.869 catch the cigar smoke hanging in the air. Maybe 00:45:55.869 --> 00:45:58.909 you're at somebody's backyard by lit one up. 00:45:59.489 --> 00:46:02.210 What are your thoughts on cigar smoke? Or do 00:46:02.210 --> 00:46:06.349 you ever partake? Do you enjoy cigar? It's such 00:46:06.349 --> 00:46:10.050 a rare occasion. It's an interesting question. 00:46:11.170 --> 00:46:16.409 The smell of it does not bother me. I am always 00:46:16.409 --> 00:46:20.739 intrigued by... Like, you know, there was a very, 00:46:20.780 --> 00:46:23.320 very brief time you try to pick up like, hey, 00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:25.739 I'm gonna, you know, become a connoisseur. I'm 00:46:25.739 --> 00:46:29.119 gonna look into this and try to see what the 00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:32.139 whole craze is about it. And then you start looking 00:46:32.139 --> 00:46:33.780 at it and it's like, there's a million different 00:46:33.780 --> 00:46:35.519 types. You don't even know where to begin. Like 00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:39.380 what's good, what's not. And that's kind of the 00:46:39.380 --> 00:46:42.940 level that I just stop and say, okay, I'll just, 00:46:42.940 --> 00:46:45.500 you know, never gonna do this. If somebody gives 00:46:45.500 --> 00:46:48.679 it to me, sure. No problem, I'll do it, but that's 00:46:48.679 --> 00:46:53.519 as far as I'll take it. I've tried to enjoy a 00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:59.239 cigar and it's just not for me. The smoke at 00:46:59.239 --> 00:47:02.519 a reasonable distance doesn't really bother me. 00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:07.239 I think a big part of the cigar hobby is the 00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:14.119 statement of holding a cigar, smoking one. It's 00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:18.519 a symbol of freedom and expression, and I respect 00:47:18.519 --> 00:47:23.099 all of that. Just for me, I don't. I feel like 00:47:23.099 --> 00:47:25.179 if you're if you're if you're smoking one, you 00:47:25.179 --> 00:47:28.239 need to be wearing penny loafers without socks. 00:47:28.260 --> 00:47:32.199 That's kind of what I consider a tire for smoking 00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:37.199 a cigar in public. And maybe maybe that's just 00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:40.199 what I see, but usually they go hand in hand 00:47:40.199 --> 00:47:43.400 or or you own a business or you have owned a 00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:47.110 business. Probably seen a female smoking a cigar, 00:47:47.170 --> 00:47:52.030 but I've never seen just a say a woman our age 00:47:52.030 --> 00:47:57.429 just relaxing and smoking a cigar for for 10 00:47:57.429 --> 00:48:00.429 or 15 minutes Okay, we're getting way off track 00:48:00.429 --> 00:48:05.190 here, but I'm taking us there all right Hopefully 00:48:05.190 --> 00:48:07.550 you have a pretty good pest control service, 00:48:07.550 --> 00:48:12.769 but in the event that you see an insect a non 00:48:12.769 --> 00:48:18.119 -flying insect in your house. Lowell, are you 00:48:18.119 --> 00:48:20.500 the type of person who's gonna get that little 00:48:20.500 --> 00:48:23.219 rascal in a dust pan and help him out the door? 00:48:23.380 --> 00:48:28.960 Or are you going in for the kill? Yeah, you know. 00:48:30.340 --> 00:48:32.199 Yeah, I feel like that. That's probably like 00:48:32.199 --> 00:48:34.420 some psych question to judge if you're a serial 00:48:34.420 --> 00:48:39.699 killer or not, but I, I, you know, I, I typically 00:48:39.699 --> 00:48:45.019 just, just for, you know, to. Set the example 00:48:45.019 --> 00:48:48.360 just so others see. This is what happens when 00:48:48.360 --> 00:48:50.760 you come in here. I typically go in for the kill. 00:48:50.940 --> 00:48:53.000 I mean, if it's one of these like little gene 00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:56.940 bugs, okay, I might take it out, but a roach, 00:48:56.940 --> 00:49:00.320 a spider, you're done. If I get to you, you're 00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:05.079 done. Just a bad place to be for that little 00:49:05.079 --> 00:49:09.599 guy. Yeah. Yeah, and you know, there is a part 00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:12.460 of me that, you know, man, I wish that didn't 00:49:12.460 --> 00:49:15.159 have to do this and just this roach, you know, 00:49:15.219 --> 00:49:17.599 woke up today just, you know, looking for food. 00:49:17.780 --> 00:49:20.539 But again, I don't think these have brains and 00:49:20.539 --> 00:49:22.340 I don't think their level of thought is that 00:49:22.340 --> 00:49:25.539 extensive. So I don't feel that bad about it. 00:49:26.099 --> 00:49:28.780 I remember you might remember this apartment 00:49:28.780 --> 00:49:32.739 that I had in Birmingham off Idlewild Circle. 00:49:34.119 --> 00:49:37.780 I do 2000, maybe time period. So I was working 00:49:37.780 --> 00:49:41.340 nights and I would come home and routinely flip 00:49:41.340 --> 00:49:45.400 on the lights in the kitchen, and see a number 00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:49.619 of roaches scatter. And at that age, whatever 00:49:49.619 --> 00:49:53.000 your priorities are in your social life and stuff, 00:49:53.639 --> 00:49:56.679 you just don't take the time to call the landlord 00:49:56.679 --> 00:49:58.280 and say, hey, could you get someone out here 00:49:58.280 --> 00:50:00.400 to spray? I don't think I ever once made that 00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:03.639 call, which is bizarre. Probably because I didn't 00:50:03.639 --> 00:50:05.019 see them. And I don't think they would have come 00:50:05.019 --> 00:50:08.840 out to do it either. But there were quite a number 00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:13.599 of them. not dozens and anything like that, but 00:50:13.599 --> 00:50:16.380 always about five or six or seven. And I would 00:50:16.380 --> 00:50:19.280 have to go through this routine of washing them 00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:22.780 down the drain, like I would send many of them 00:50:22.780 --> 00:50:28.539 to a watery grave and kind of feel a little bad 00:50:28.539 --> 00:50:32.139 about it. That's almost like toying with them 00:50:32.139 --> 00:50:34.440 or torturing them. Of course, for all you know, 00:50:34.460 --> 00:50:36.940 they were just getting dumped right back out 00:50:36.940 --> 00:50:39.590 through some hole in the pipe. right outside 00:50:39.590 --> 00:50:42.369 your back door and those you just kept flushing 00:50:42.369 --> 00:50:46.489 down the same five roaches every time okay one 00:50:46.489 --> 00:50:50.110 final question here if you could put on a cape 00:50:50.110 --> 00:50:55.530 and fly uh much like a superhero or jump on a 00:50:55.530 --> 00:51:00.670 magic carpet and fly on you know like uh a gypsy 00:51:00.670 --> 00:51:04.449 or a yeah genie a genie yeah if you could take 00:51:04.449 --> 00:51:08.659 flight with a superhero cape or on a magic carpet? 00:51:09.260 --> 00:51:13.480 What would you go for? Oh, wow. That's, you know, 00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:16.280 I think just the coolness factor with a cape. 00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:18.599 But, you know, there's something to be said about 00:51:18.599 --> 00:51:20.739 just being able to sit down while you're traveling 00:51:20.739 --> 00:51:24.480 and, you know, you can have a cup of tea next 00:51:24.480 --> 00:51:26.639 to you or whatever. I say cup of tea because 00:51:26.639 --> 00:51:28.119 I feel like that's what a genie would drink. 00:51:28.400 --> 00:51:32.980 But, you know, a scotch probably. There's the 00:51:32.980 --> 00:51:35.690 presumption with the carpet. That you're not 00:51:35.690 --> 00:51:38.429 going to fall off, but you're not really tethered 00:51:38.429 --> 00:51:41.449 to anything. You're just sitting. Yeah. But with 00:51:41.449 --> 00:51:43.570 the Cape, you know, it's kind of like, well, 00:51:43.829 --> 00:51:46.289 I'm, I'm flying with this. This is how I can 00:51:46.289 --> 00:51:48.250 fly. And this thing's not just going to like 00:51:48.250 --> 00:51:51.829 rip off. Yeah. But I mean, if we're going to 00:51:51.829 --> 00:51:53.530 really dig into this, you know, I mean, you could 00:51:53.530 --> 00:51:55.590 say the, you know, the carpets, like actually 00:51:55.590 --> 00:51:57.969 a vehicle though, and it's doing the flying. 00:51:58.130 --> 00:52:00.349 I mean, how on earth would the Cape, you know, 00:52:00.469 --> 00:52:04.170 be Be performing that same task. It's really 00:52:04.170 --> 00:52:06.250 just an accessory, but I would definitely choose 00:52:06.250 --> 00:52:09.210 that over You know some silly little carpet out 00:52:09.210 --> 00:52:15.489 of a cartoon Well, I think that's about it for 00:52:15.489 --> 00:52:18.150 today I think maybe well would definitely have 00:52:18.150 --> 00:52:24.110 to commit to another episode and and the debate 00:52:24.110 --> 00:52:29.110 between you and Jim Absolutely, and I will be 00:52:29.110 --> 00:52:31.550 up for that. I I would like to also schedule 00:52:31.550 --> 00:52:36.289 something and I want to explain how soccer works 00:52:36.289 --> 00:52:40.030 to all of my friends as well and try to get them 00:52:40.030 --> 00:52:44.389 on board. Well, I on my list here and my gosh, 00:52:44.590 --> 00:52:48.010 we if I didn't have to ask about cigars and roaches 00:52:48.010 --> 00:52:51.489 and. Flying carpets, I had Premier League on 00:52:51.489 --> 00:52:55.650 here. And it's kind of like when a band gets 00:52:55.650 --> 00:52:57.769 up there and they play like four songs from. 00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:00.019 the album that nobody cares about. And they're 00:53:00.019 --> 00:53:04.900 like, well, why didn't you play? Well, hey, that's 00:53:04.900 --> 00:53:07.940 just another opportunity to talk about later. 00:53:08.099 --> 00:53:11.579 But, you know, just a quick blurb about it. It's 00:53:11.579 --> 00:53:13.820 the bet to me. It's it's one of the best leagues 00:53:13.820 --> 00:53:15.880 in the world in terms of just entertainment value. 00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:20.340 And absolutely. It's must see TV for me. And 00:53:20.340 --> 00:53:22.440 I don't miss it. And Tottenham is the team I 00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:25.000 pull for. And they suck. And they never win trophies. 00:53:25.019 --> 00:53:30.199 But that's OK. Yeah, I. I appreciate your appreciation 00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:33.659 of the Premier League. Can't say that I'll become 00:53:33.659 --> 00:53:37.980 a fan, but can't say that I won't ever. Yeah. 00:53:39.300 --> 00:53:41.099 Well, is there anything else that you'd like 00:53:41.099 --> 00:53:46.619 to plug before we check the box here on the first 00:53:46.619 --> 00:53:52.320 LOL Shapiro episode? No, not really. Just get 00:53:52.320 --> 00:53:59.360 out and vote. There you go. We are six months 00:53:59.360 --> 00:54:03.099 away Absolutely. There is I say that I just saw 00:54:03.099 --> 00:54:06.980 the turnout for the London election and I want 00:54:06.980 --> 00:54:09.619 to say that it was a paltry 20 something percent 00:54:09.619 --> 00:54:12.019 turnout and it's just get out there and vote 00:54:12.019 --> 00:54:15.679 people just It's a privilege if you travel the 00:54:15.679 --> 00:54:18.139 world. I think you get a better appreciation 00:54:18.139 --> 00:54:21.980 for it. Well, you heard the man and Get yourself 00:54:21.980 --> 00:54:26.429 registered tune in don't don't say that well 00:54:26.429 --> 00:54:30.449 my vote doesn't count it does and hey listen 00:54:30.449 --> 00:54:33.789 and this show I don't get political on here I 00:54:33.789 --> 00:54:36.989 don't endorse anything but sometimes people people 00:54:36.989 --> 00:54:40.329 forget that right there in your county you go 00:54:40.329 --> 00:54:44.090 out and just go vote in that primary and vote 00:54:44.090 --> 00:54:51.349 in that race for school board or tax assessor 00:54:51.690 --> 00:54:54.150 And you never know, some of those races come 00:54:54.150 --> 00:54:58.690 down to like eight votes. You get in and you 00:54:58.690 --> 00:55:04.369 can also people very close to me have said, well, 00:55:04.530 --> 00:55:06.769 you know, it's not going to change anything or 00:55:06.769 --> 00:55:10.710 I don't like those candidates. Well, remember 00:55:10.710 --> 00:55:13.869 when you go to vote, you can leave certain races 00:55:13.869 --> 00:55:17.730 blank. You can do that. You can you can vote 00:55:17.730 --> 00:55:20.769 for one thing and nothing else. You can vote 00:55:20.769 --> 00:55:24.059 for it. for all of it except one and do that. 00:55:24.260 --> 00:55:30.219 But anyway, good advice here from Lowell. And 00:55:30.219 --> 00:55:34.460 I appreciate you making time in your day. This 00:55:34.460 --> 00:55:38.360 is a big deal for me for us to connect. We covered 00:55:38.360 --> 00:55:41.119 some of the stuff that I had always dreamed of 00:55:41.119 --> 00:55:44.619 covering for you being a guest on the show and 00:55:44.619 --> 00:55:47.460 something still on the table. That's okay. All 00:55:47.460 --> 00:55:49.739 right, folks, well. Thanks for having me, Dan. 00:55:50.519 --> 00:55:52.900 Thank you all and you guys had a great time. 00:55:53.039 --> 00:55:55.559 Yeah, and we'll do it again soon. We'll get you 00:55:55.559 --> 00:55:58.960 back in short order All right. We'd love it. 00:55:59.239 --> 00:56:01.860 Have a great week folks, and we'll see you next 00:56:01.860 --> 00:56:06.420 Sunday on the Dan time podcast Thanks, lol. Thanks 00:56:06.420 --> 00:56:06.619 Dan