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bass player, producer, YouTuber, author, and

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younger brother of Trey Williams. Yes, that Trey

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Williams. Ladies and gentlemen, Travis Dykes

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is my guest today. Yes, we did it again. First,

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my brother Travis, and now on Dan Time, another

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brother Travis. Based in Nashville, Travis has

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been a full -time touring and studio musician

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for over a decade in the Music City. His passion

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from the very beginning has been for teaching

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others. He has taught hundreds of bass and guitar

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students. It is this passion that led to the

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launch of Travis Dyke's YouTube channel to provide

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bass lessons and a behind -the -scenes look at

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the professional music industry. His YouTube

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channel has grown to over 150 ,000 subscribers,

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and he produces new content weekly. In 2023,

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Travis published his first book entitled, Do

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It Yourself, Bass Method, released via Howe Leonard

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Publishing. You can find it everywhere books

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are sold. He's also launched his own clothing

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line. Go to travisdykesmusic .com. Travis has

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toured and recorded with some of the biggest

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names in the industry, including C .C. Winans,

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the top -selling female gospel artist of all

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time, Charity Gale, Colby Kallay, Carrie Underwood,

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Riley Clemens, Eric Pasley, Gone West, Stephen

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Day, Jordy Cerci, James Williams, Draylon Young,

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and many more. His many accomplishments aside,

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I gotta say, I found Travis to be such a magnetic

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guy, purposeful, down to earth and it's easy

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to see why so many people are just drawn to him.

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Okay, let's get to the conversation now. Folks,

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it is Travis Dykes time. Thank you for being

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a listener. That's a big part of the Dan Time

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podcast. Hi, I'm your host, Dan McCardle. Thanks

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for being here. But gratitude is something that

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I want to emphasize because it means a lot to

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me. That you Yes, you you're driving. You're

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waiting on somebody. You're in a waiting room

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You've got your air pods in and you're listening

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to my show right now you I appreciate you as

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a listener and I don't take that for granted

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Man, I could not be more pleased today to have

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a guest that this is a real alignment of values

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I would say and it just so happens to be a sibling

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a brother of a guest that I think you all enjoyed

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from just a few weeks ago, Trey Williams. My

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friend Trey, before we got off the phone, I think

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some of the end of the episode chatter, he said,

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look, you've got to get in touch with my brother,

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Travis Dykes Jr. And that's all I needed. If

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I got a referral from Trey, it doesn't matter

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if his brother is a warehouse associate, if he's

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a dentist, that's enough for me. But lo and behold,

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I checked him out and I was like, wow. I mean,

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wow, this is, this is a big deal. And Travis,

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you're doing some great things out there impacting

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people in a big way. We'll get to that in the

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episode, but let me just stop and say, thanks

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for being here on the Dan time podcast. Thank

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you for having me. So here, this is how we got

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connected today. Travis Dykes was to Trey Williams,

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which he checked the box just being in my network.

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And here we go. What are you doing right now,

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April 2024? What's on the front burner for you

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right now? Oh, man. It may be multiple things.

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Yeah. Well, it's a lot of things right now. First

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of all, thank you for having me on. This is a

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really, really dope opportunity. I always get,

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you know, so much energy from having conversations

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and things like that. Honestly, right now, there's

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so much on my mind, so much on my plate. But

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just the most current and recent thing that's

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about to come up is I'm getting ready to head

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to Australia this weekend for about nine or 10

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days to teach some clinics and also do a live

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recording with an artist there, playing some

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music and different things like that, recording

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an album. And so that's kind of like at the forefront

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of my brain, but... There's like even though

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it's only a few days until that happens There's

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still so much I have to do right now for other

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things because I don't know about you but like

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whenever I Do a trip or something like that.

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It's always i'm always like having to Do work

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for the trip, you know leading up to the trip,

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right? That's that's my life right now Well,

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I can definitely relate to that. Um Travis from

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what I understand your interest in music kind

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of started around percussion and the drums and

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being a child and maybe not unlike a lot of kids

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where what's the first thing I can start banging

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on and making some some racket and creating some

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beats in my five six year old mind or whatever

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so it started with the drums right or percussion

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yeah yeah so when I think I was around like five

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years old I started getting interested just like

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any child, you know, at that age, just like,

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Oh, you can just hit something and it makes a

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noise. Uh, that was kind of like my start into

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getting interested in music. And then from there,

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it, it progressed to kind of where I am now with

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playing bass, but yeah, it started when I was

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five and I'll just give you. uh, timeline, kind

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of what happened. So I started five with drums

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and then that kind of progressed into the next

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few years, learning some percussion, some, you

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know, Congress, things like that. And then that

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progressed into my sister, Lakia. She got an

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acoustic guitar and just like siblings do, I

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was, I'm the youngest in the family. And so she

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got an acoustic and I was like, oh i want to

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play it i want to play it and she would you know

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and i just because i just wanted to beat her

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i was like oh yeah i want to i want to let her

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play because she has it and then from there on

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um then on i like i really actually got interested

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in guitar after just you know that wore off and

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then started playing a little bit more and started

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you know learning some chords and different things

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like that and that led to me going and starting

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to play the bass because the bass was kind of

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a mix of that guitar world and that drum world.

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It was like that perfect middle. And so that

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was kind of like my introduction into getting

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into playing the bass. Was there ever a time

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when you started learning? Because I play drums

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not as often anymore, but I've always wanted

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to learn a stringed instrument and the bass guitar

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would actually be the next instrument that I

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would like to play. Was there ever a time where

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you got frustrated in the early stages and it

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just wasn't coming along the way that you would

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like? Did you ever consider not following that

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path with the bass guitar? You know, honestly

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to give a little backstory, I actually didn't

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really get into the bass until I started playing

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at church. That was like a kind of my introduction

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into playing and you know doing that whole thing.

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And so the way the story goes is that I was playing

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some guitar at the church, playing drums at the

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church and everything like that. And then all

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of a sudden I overheard my music pastor or music

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director saying that we needed more bass players.

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And pretty much I was like, oh man, I saw extra

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bass back in the closet and asked my pastor if

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I could borrow it. And that's how I got into

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learning the bass. And I started learning for

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services to play, you know, for midweeks and

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all that kind of stuff. But to answer your question,

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as far as frustration goes, is that the first

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bit of frustration I ever had, my pastor had

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told me, because I didn't know how to play bass.

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And so I just knew that it seemed like it was

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easy to pick up. And so one of the things that

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was very surprising and frustrating to me was

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like my pastor told me when I got the bass, he's

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like, You know, Travis, six months to a year,

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you could actually plan in service. And I was

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like, six months to a year. I thought I was going

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to be able to pick this up next week. So that

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was honestly kind of the first frustration I

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ever had with playing bass because I thought

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it was going to take forever. And so what I did

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is I started. you know, hounding in like practice

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time and just working. I was a teenager, so I

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had all kinds of time. You know, when I was a

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teenager, I thought I didn't have any time, but

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being an adult now, I was like, oh my gosh, I

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had so much time. And so that was kind of like

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when I started working through that, working

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through that. And so I worked really hard, I

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think about two months or so I was in after practicing

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all that time, I played my first service and

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that was my first time playing in front of people

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playing in front of, you know, with a band and

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different things like that on the bass. And that

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was kind of like how I got started with that.

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But they always say this about bass though, which

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is something I've learned over the years as well,

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is that bass is like one of those instruments

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that it's easy to pick up and start playing,

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but it's hard to progress in. and getting master

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and the reason why that is is because you know

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it's everybody thinks about bass as like oh yeah

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you just play a note you just play a note or

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four notes or whatever and you're playing that

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root that little you know whatever that you always

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hear but whenever you're trying to get to that

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expert or professional level that's where it's

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just like oh man i actually have to have a rhythm

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you know i actually have to know a little bit

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of music theory and and that's honestly Just

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the the whole gambit of playing the bass is just

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Going from not just being mediocre bass players

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being you know Something that's actually a real

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what they quote unquote call a real bass player

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is one who's not just playing the bare minimum,

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you know Right. So what came first? Going out

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and performing for audiences or getting to a

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level where you could teach others or a little

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bit of both When did some of those opportunities

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to to perform live begin to materialize? Well,

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I will say The first opportunity I had was to

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teach and that was honestly something that I

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Never knew I was going to learn as much as I

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did from So I started playing when I was about

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12 or 13 years old. That was when I actually

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picked it up And literally the year, I think

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that same year or the year right after I started

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teaching, I started teaching people, even though

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I wasn't like this expert teacher or anything

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like that. I just started teaching people because

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people are trying to help develop, you know,

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some more, you know, people and friends that

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were interested in learning. And honestly, that.

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I am so glad it fell that way. A lot of people

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felt, you know, want to go out and just get in

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front of an audience as soon as possible and

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start playing and you doing shows and tours and

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things like that. But I learned so much about

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growing and growing my playing and also just

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like theory wise and everything about music because

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of the questions that were asked from the students

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I was teaching. And that's something that people

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don't really think about when it comes to learning

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and teaching is that teaching actually is the

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the almost like the fast track to learning whatever

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you're teaching better and faster because what

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you're doing is as soon as somebody asks a question

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you got to be if you don't know that question

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you have to go look it up because you're the

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teacher you know and so it's just like okay if

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i'm going to teach you that you know this thing

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i have to be at least No be able to go and find

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the answer for it. And so I started there and

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then went from teaching to Playing live I used

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to play like camp summer camps and things like

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that And that's kind of how I got started into

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that and it's of course playing in churches and

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church settings but then after that I started

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getting a little bit more experience and When

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I got some more experience, I started playing

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with some professional uh, artists and different

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things like that. I don't not say professional,

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like at the first level of this, it was like

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local level. I was playing with the people at

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restaurants and different things like that, some

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college friends. And then that progressed to

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me playing with actually more professional touring

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artists that were actually trying to make a career

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of doing this full time. And then I went from

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that to moving to Nashville to where everybody's

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trying to do music. Everybody's trying to make

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it in it. That's where it kind of just changed

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my life with it. Now in Nashville, like you said,

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it's not the easiest place to stand out. How

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much does networking and just relying on your

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people skills, how much does that help you? I

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mean, because some people are just they're just

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going to sink in that environment, right? If

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you're not connecting with the right people and

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putting yourself out there. Yeah, you know, it's.

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I've heard so much, so many different things

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before actually moving to Nashville and moving

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to a city where you're not the only musician.

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That's something that has been told to me like,

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all right, you got to make all these connections.

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You got to connect with this person. You got

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to connect with that person. This person can't

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get you somewhere. Then you don't need to connect

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with them. I'm like, no, no, no. So what I started

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to learn when I first moved to Nashville, I came

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in here with that mindset. And I started noticing

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I'm making all these connections. Oh man, I got

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this person's number. I got this person's number.

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I got this person's number. They work with this

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person. But then when I started to realize, as

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I started to actually grow and get better as

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a musician and different things like that, is

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that... those people who I connected to those

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those people got their number, you know, I was

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like, you know, sometimes I would go get lunch

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or coffee or something like that. But I realized

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that those people with connections weren't calling

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me. They weren't asking me like, hey, can you

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play this gig? Hey, can you do this thing? Hey,

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can you do whatever? Which is what you want to

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do. That's the reason why you can connecting

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with them. But the thing is, is that connections

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only take you so far. They can probably gets

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you like a little small opportunity that's kind

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of temporary. But what, what I learned is that

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what takes you to that next level and what really

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gets your network and grows your network is when

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you have friends, genuine relationships, because

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when you actually have friends, what happens

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is that you're going to look out for each other.

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It's like, if I get a, if I get like this, you

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know, incredible, incredibly huge gig or opportunity,

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I'm not going to go to someone who I barely know.

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I'm going to go someone who I. I'm like, oh my

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gosh, I want this guy to win. This guy is a killer.

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He's so good. And I want somebody who I know

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I could trust. And so whenever I get opportunities

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like that, the first people I always go to, even

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to this day, are people who I have a good relationship

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with, people who are my actual friends that I

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hang out with outside of just music. And sometimes

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that's what you're trying to achieve. I mean,

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honestly, that's really what you're trying to

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achieve is that you're trying to achieve having

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a relationship versus just having a network.

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Because honestly, I always say it like this,

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really having a network is having a net to catch

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you when you fall. Because the thing is, is about

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having a net. A net is like, it's something that

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we all need because we are all trying to go out

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here and take our chance at creating and creating

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a career in music. We're not going to go out

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here and you know, without a paddle and just

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expect to, to go. You need some help. You need

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somebody to help you with that. And then somebody

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to, you know, kind of be a part of that. And

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so, yeah. So when it comes to networking, I do

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think that's a part, part of it, you know, getting

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to know people, but it's not in the way that

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you think. I think it's definitely all about

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creating genuine relationships. And I will say

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this and just to kind of end this thought. Is

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that sometimes when you relocate, it's not even

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just about advancing your career, but it's about

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building yourself up to a level to even meet

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the minimum. Okay. And so like I always say,

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when I moved to Nashville, I realized that everybody

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who comes to Nashville, Tennessee doing music

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is like the top from all the other cities they

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come from. they're like at the top of their game.

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They're like, they were the band, you know, in

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their, in their city. And then they moved to

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Nashville trying to make it. And so there are,

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so the bottom level in Nashville is like the

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top level everywhere else. And so what happens

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is that because you just, just moving to the

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city and just moving to a location where there's

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people that are going to challenge you, it takes

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your level up. just by moving here and just being

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surrounded by it. Like I remember I came here

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and I didn't even realize the impact it had on

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my life. I just, I walked, I, you know, moved

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here and then I just, I went to a church service,

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just like, just like church service. There was

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like, Oh yeah, this Bible study or whatever.

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And I go there and I'm just like, Oh my gosh,

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this is the best music I've ever heard. Like

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live music I've ever heard. And this was just

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a church. It wasn't even a big church. or anything

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like that. And, and I started to realize really

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quick, wow, I've got to level up to be here to

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even just be, you know, because some of the times

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the waiter or waitress are better than you as

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a musician. And so, yeah, no. So I think there's,

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there's a lot of different ways and things that

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people say about that. But I would just say genuine

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relationships and just letting the location build

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you? I'm just so taken aback and as soon as you

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said that about building a network I think it

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gets lost on some people who maybe just they're

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not thinking that listen we're here for a bigger

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reason than just to figure out how Steve can

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get me to Joe to so that he can help me do this

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and then that's what I need done you know people

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are not a means to an end Life is about friendships.

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It's about being interested in other people Asking

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someone, you know, you want to go have coffee.

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You want to go grab a bite to eat? What are you

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doing? When are you playing? Like if it's a musician,

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you know, when are you playing next? I want to

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go hear you play and Be interested in that person

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not because of what they can do for you but just

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because it's the right thing to do and like you

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said your network will blossom as a result and

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in order for people to Want to even help you

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if they like you they're willing to go up to

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bat for you and You know in sales they say no

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like and trust, you know Most people aren't gonna

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do anything any business with you unless they

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know you and then they like you and then trust

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is the final one but Great stuff there Travis.

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I love that. I love that perspective now as a

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youtuber In the beginning, this was not something

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that you thought this thing's gonna really blow

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up. Take me back to the early days and when you

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thought, hey, why don't I put myself out here

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and start this YouTube channel and try to teach

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people how to play bass? Well, you know, honestly,

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whenever I was starting learning how to play

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bass and different things like that, YouTube

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really wasn't a thing. Yeah, like it wasn't a

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you know that came up later and so what I was

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doing is I was learning from Books, you know

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watching people like in person actually watching

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somebody in person playing and different things

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like that but what I started to learn as I was

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playing is like man, you know the way that I

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I Learned things is a little bit different than

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the way other people learn things And so what

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started to happen is that I would get these ideas,

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these thoughts, and I would, I would just like

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be like, Oh, I wonder if anybody else thinks

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like this. And so whenever you YouTube started

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to come around, I was like, you know what? I'm

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going to post a lesson and just see if anybody

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like, cause I felt like if I was looking on YouTube

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or looking for something, this is something that

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helped me. And so what I did is I posted a video.

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It was just like me in the living room of my

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parents' house. I think I was a teenager. You

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know, I don't even know if I can remember. How

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long ago was that? Oh, I can't even tell you

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how old it was. But it was in my parents' house.

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And honestly, I posted that video and I was like,

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OK, cool. Didn't really look at it. And then

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I was like, you know what? Let me let me post

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another one. And didn't look at it. I never,

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I knew nothing about analytics. I knew nothing

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about anything. I wasn't, I didn't get on YouTube

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to like blow up and become a YouTuber or anything

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like that. I was literally just genuinely doing

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it because I was like, Oh man, maybe I can contribute

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to what's happening here. And so I started doing

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that and I, um, and so I started posting a little

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bit. It was no consistency. It was just like

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every now and then I probably post like five.

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maybe 10 videos and all of a sudden somebody

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asked me a question. They were just like, oh

00:22:45.759 --> 00:22:48.420
yeah, you have a YouTube channel, right? And

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I was like, yeah, I don't know how we were talking

00:22:50.480 --> 00:22:52.140
about it. But then they asked me like, so how

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many subscribers do you have? And I was like,

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you know what? I actually don't know. And so

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I went in to look, I just, you know, went on

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my computer, looked really quick. I didn't even,

00:23:02.799 --> 00:23:04.799
honestly, probably just two seconds, just look

00:23:04.799 --> 00:23:07.910
at screen and it's like, oh. and i saw one and

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a two and i was like oh 12 okay cool i got 12

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and so i told him i got 12 subscribers and then

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later that night i was like you know what let

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me go back and look at that and i looked on there

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and it's actually a 1 .2k i had 1200 subscribers

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and i never had no idea which if you If you don't

00:23:29.700 --> 00:23:32.599
know anything about YouTube, to get to the place

00:23:32.599 --> 00:23:34.980
where they'll pay you, you have to have a thousand

00:23:34.980 --> 00:23:38.599
subscribers. And so that was like, uh, I didn't

00:23:38.599 --> 00:23:40.720
even know I passed that threshold. I never even,

00:23:40.720 --> 00:23:43.279
that wasn't like that thing. That's zero to a

00:23:43.279 --> 00:23:44.940
thousand thing, which is the hardest. If you're

00:23:44.940 --> 00:23:47.099
a YouTuber or trying to do YouTube, that's like

00:23:47.099 --> 00:23:49.299
the hardest area. That's even harder than getting

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from 10 ,000 to a hundred thousand. That zero

00:23:52.819 --> 00:23:55.880
to a thousand is a tough, that's a tough like

00:23:55.880 --> 00:23:58.920
subscriber count, but That's how I looked at

00:23:58.920 --> 00:24:00.980
that. And I was like, Oh wow. People are watching

00:24:00.980 --> 00:24:03.559
my videos. I had a few videos that had a few

00:24:03.559 --> 00:24:07.220
thousand views and I was like, Oh wow. And so

00:24:07.220 --> 00:24:10.599
from there on, I just started posting. I didn't

00:24:10.599 --> 00:24:13.420
get serious about it for a while. Like a while.

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I just like posted every now and then it was

00:24:16.259 --> 00:24:19.200
kind of like my little self -expression for a

00:24:19.200 --> 00:24:20.900
little bit too. Cause I would go in there and

00:24:20.900 --> 00:24:23.859
I'll play stuff, uh, play covers and things like

00:24:23.859 --> 00:24:26.400
that. Um, actually funny story when I was in

00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:31.940
college. I posted a video. It was a Tasha Cobbs

00:24:31.940 --> 00:24:34.980
cover. It was in my college dorm room. And the

00:24:34.980 --> 00:24:37.579
reason why I posted that video was because I

00:24:37.579 --> 00:24:39.339
was frustrated because I was wanting to play

00:24:39.339 --> 00:24:43.319
with the gospel choir so bad, but they let me

00:24:43.319 --> 00:24:45.400
sit in the practices, but they would never let

00:24:45.400 --> 00:24:47.980
me play. And so I practiced all these songs.

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I would practice, practice, practice. And I'd

00:24:50.440 --> 00:24:52.539
be at every practice, you know, even when I had

00:24:52.539 --> 00:24:56.859
tests to do, I was there. And they say, oh, you

00:24:56.859 --> 00:25:00.180
can play this one song. And then when it got

00:25:00.180 --> 00:25:03.319
to it to let me play, they didn't let me play.

00:25:03.380 --> 00:25:05.680
They let this other guy play. And I was like,

00:25:05.680 --> 00:25:09.740
oh, I was like so mad. I was so frustrated. And

00:25:09.740 --> 00:25:11.160
so what I did, I was like, you know, I don't

00:25:11.160 --> 00:25:13.160
want to take all this time I spent learning this

00:25:13.160 --> 00:25:15.599
song and just not do anything with it. And so

00:25:15.599 --> 00:25:18.240
I made a video, put it on my YouTube channel.

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I actually think, I think it has like maybe 70

00:25:21.819 --> 00:25:25.980
or 80 ,000 views now, but. That was like something

00:25:25.980 --> 00:25:28.680
that was starting to become a self -expression

00:25:28.680 --> 00:25:31.940
for me in that kind of way as well So yeah, that

00:25:31.940 --> 00:25:34.220
was kind of like just a little bit of a gist

00:25:34.220 --> 00:25:37.140
of how I got even into it You know, I started

00:25:37.140 --> 00:25:40.440
watching a couple of these videos and here's

00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:42.980
what I think resonates with people because there's

00:25:42.980 --> 00:25:45.279
There's so much out there any topic you want

00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:47.880
to learn about? presented in so many different

00:25:47.880 --> 00:25:53.119
ways, but within about three seconds Travis I

00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:57.299
you know just Trying to be unbiased I picked

00:25:57.299 --> 00:26:00.119
up on the fact that this is a guy that I want

00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:03.940
to let i'm already in I like him. I like his

00:26:03.940 --> 00:26:06.980
presentation. I like his demeanor He knows what

00:26:06.980 --> 00:26:10.859
he's talking about You kind of have that first

00:26:10.859 --> 00:26:14.019
three second I don't want to call it like a cell

00:26:14.019 --> 00:26:16.700
but it's like people have very short attention

00:26:16.700 --> 00:26:20.660
spans and they will quickly move on to the next

00:26:20.660 --> 00:26:24.569
thing in their scroll they will Ditch that video

00:26:24.569 --> 00:26:28.170
in a heartbeat, but just for me that was the

00:26:28.170 --> 00:26:30.910
impact I got and I think that's a part one ingredient

00:26:30.910 --> 00:26:34.890
of how It has resonated with people is that there's

00:26:34.890 --> 00:26:38.250
a likeability factor Immediately doesn't take

00:26:38.250 --> 00:26:42.150
half a minute, which is an eternity For a YouTube

00:26:42.150 --> 00:26:44.769
video, but I'm serious man like two or three

00:26:44.769 --> 00:26:48.309
seconds in you're like Yes, this guy. This is

00:26:48.309 --> 00:26:52.039
what I believe he's an expert Already believe

00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:54.500
it. I already like him and just a lot's happening.

00:26:55.259 --> 00:26:58.200
So Big compliment there. I don't want to you

00:26:58.200 --> 00:27:01.480
know Send your head up into the sky and a balloon,

00:27:01.480 --> 00:27:07.119
you know, some people I think oh People have

00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:10.019
told me what's that line don't blow don't make

00:27:10.019 --> 00:27:12.519
his head big or whatever That's a there's a saying

00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:15.819
or something. I mean it so oh, thank you. I appreciate

00:27:15.819 --> 00:27:20.619
that so much and then you know, you really It's

00:27:20.619 --> 00:27:24.099
things that how to play how to play bass in different

00:27:24.099 --> 00:27:27.660
ways how to improve your slap bass overnight

00:27:27.660 --> 00:27:32.299
gospel bass our bass amps still relevant Taking

00:27:32.299 --> 00:27:35.240
your slap bass from beginner to pro and then

00:27:35.240 --> 00:27:39.000
man. You got a video here making a $100 bass

00:27:39.000 --> 00:27:42.500
sound like a thousand dollar bass over half a

00:27:42.500 --> 00:27:46.500
million views a day in the life of a church music

00:27:46.500 --> 00:27:50.619
director touring perspectives what it's like

00:27:50.619 --> 00:27:53.200
on the tour bus, the grind of the tour bus. I

00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:55.920
haven't even cracked into half this stuff, but

00:27:55.920 --> 00:28:01.079
how exciting. I'm really happy for you. Oh, thank

00:28:01.079 --> 00:28:05.039
you. Thank you. It definitely is a fun journey

00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:08.099
that I'm very, very grateful to be able to be

00:28:08.099 --> 00:28:11.200
a part of. Now, I understand like a few years

00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:14.759
ago that you had a moment in a music store where

00:28:14.759 --> 00:28:17.960
you ran into one of your YouTube followers, this

00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:20.640
is like one of your first followers or you'd

00:28:20.640 --> 00:28:23.940
kind of surpassed a threshold and then you met

00:28:23.940 --> 00:28:26.339
some guy for the first time is where you were

00:28:26.339 --> 00:28:28.380
like, oh, these are more, these are actual people

00:28:28.380 --> 00:28:33.019
that I'm impacting. It's not just a number. Yeah.

00:28:33.019 --> 00:28:35.640
So that was, um, I was actually in Birmingham,

00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:37.980
Alabama, which is where I'm originally from or

00:28:37.980 --> 00:28:41.339
grew up. And I was on a guitar center. I was

00:28:41.339 --> 00:28:44.660
there visiting. I think I was I think I was in

00:28:44.660 --> 00:28:47.480
college actually. And I was there visiting and

00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:49.279
I went to a guitar center and just because that

00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:51.819
was what I like to do, just go and play these

00:28:51.819 --> 00:28:54.180
instruments that I couldn't afford. And honestly,

00:28:54.220 --> 00:28:55.940
I was sitting there and I was playing and this

00:28:55.940 --> 00:28:58.460
guy came up to me and he's just like, he's like,

00:28:58.680 --> 00:29:02.460
do you do YouTube videos? And I was just like,

00:29:02.619 --> 00:29:08.859
yeah, how do you know that? And then he's like,

00:29:09.000 --> 00:29:11.400
I think I follow your channel. Do you do like

00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:14.569
lessons and stuff? And I was like, Yeah. And

00:29:14.569 --> 00:29:16.809
he was like, Oh my gosh, dude, can I take a picture

00:29:16.809 --> 00:29:19.069
with you? And I was just like, and that was,

00:29:19.329 --> 00:29:22.109
that was years ago, but that was one of the first

00:29:22.109 --> 00:29:24.910
moments I was almost like validation of like,

00:29:25.769 --> 00:29:28.670
okay, people are actually watching because I

00:29:28.670 --> 00:29:31.490
think with social media, a lot of times, especially

00:29:31.490 --> 00:29:35.049
as a, you know, someone whose career is mainly

00:29:35.049 --> 00:29:37.710
off of social media, you know, not mainly, but,

00:29:37.730 --> 00:29:40.509
but it's a big proponent of what I do is off

00:29:40.509 --> 00:29:43.529
of social media. everything is just about numbers.

00:29:44.329 --> 00:29:46.230
It just looks, everything is numbers on a page.

00:29:46.329 --> 00:29:48.410
It's like, oh man, how many views did this do?

00:29:48.470 --> 00:29:51.809
How many watch hours did this have? How many

00:29:51.809 --> 00:29:53.910
comments does this have? But you never really

00:29:53.910 --> 00:29:56.089
think about it as real people. And that was the

00:29:56.089 --> 00:30:00.109
first time I think in my career doing YouTube,

00:30:00.390 --> 00:30:04.529
I was just like, oh snap, these are actual people.

00:30:04.890 --> 00:30:08.069
When it's a thousand views that's potentially

00:30:08.069 --> 00:30:11.009
a thousand people watching this video You know,

00:30:11.029 --> 00:30:13.089
it's so that was like one of those things where

00:30:13.089 --> 00:30:17.190
I was like, wow This is uh, this is actually

00:30:17.190 --> 00:30:19.549
impactful and I think what changed and shifted

00:30:19.549 --> 00:30:23.769
in my my mind from that moment was That I needed

00:30:23.769 --> 00:30:26.289
to be more serious about this that these these

00:30:26.289 --> 00:30:29.349
this is like something that That is actually

00:30:29.349 --> 00:30:32.130
impacting people because then from then on just

00:30:32.130 --> 00:30:35.430
to you know, add to the story Some, some years

00:30:35.430 --> 00:30:37.670
down the road after I really, I really gotten

00:30:37.670 --> 00:30:39.910
serious about YouTube, which was probably towards,

00:30:40.069 --> 00:30:42.250
um, when I was about to get married about five

00:30:42.250 --> 00:30:46.410
years ago, I had like this reality like hit in

00:30:46.410 --> 00:30:50.230
my head of like, that I didn't want to be doing

00:30:50.230 --> 00:30:53.670
gigs my entire life. And I was like, you know,

00:30:53.670 --> 00:30:55.569
I have this little YouTube thing I used to, and

00:30:55.569 --> 00:30:57.230
I used to have a music school and things like

00:30:57.230 --> 00:31:01.509
that. It's so, but I had this, um, that reality

00:31:01.509 --> 00:31:04.640
hit. And I got serious about doing it. And I

00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:06.799
remember there was this person I met. It was

00:31:06.799 --> 00:31:10.019
this guy. I was playing an event and I met him.

00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:14.559
And he told me, he said, because of what you've

00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:16.880
been doing on YouTube and the videos you put

00:31:16.880 --> 00:31:19.980
out, he said, I went from not playing the bass

00:31:19.980 --> 00:31:23.039
to playing the bass at four different churches

00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:26.720
and also traveling and doing it as a career based

00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:29.339
off of just watching my videos, which for me,

00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:31.859
I don't ever like to, you know, sound like I'm

00:31:31.859 --> 00:31:34.480
being boastful or anything like that, but that

00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:37.319
really just kind of changed my life in the sense

00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:40.119
of realizing, Hey, you know, this is how this

00:31:40.119 --> 00:31:42.420
has a deeper impact than what you think. Cause

00:31:42.420 --> 00:31:45.380
I, and this is, you know, not trying to get preachy

00:31:45.380 --> 00:31:49.140
here, but the, uh, the thing is with social media,

00:31:49.220 --> 00:31:52.000
a lot of people don't realize is that even though

00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:54.759
it is about numbers, it is about that, you know,

00:31:54.880 --> 00:31:56.759
learning growth and different things like that.

00:31:57.490 --> 00:32:01.789
what you put out there, the creation and the

00:32:01.789 --> 00:32:05.250
message that you put out there can impact people

00:32:05.250 --> 00:32:07.509
more than you know, even if it's a small amount,

00:32:07.750 --> 00:32:10.750
even if it's just a thousand followers, if it's

00:32:10.750 --> 00:32:14.210
5 ,000 followers, that doesn't, you know, your

00:32:14.210 --> 00:32:17.329
influence is so much more important than just

00:32:17.329 --> 00:32:19.430
numbers. And that's something that I started

00:32:19.430 --> 00:32:23.440
to realize is that my influence, It started to,

00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:25.980
started to grow. And the thing is, is that whenever

00:32:25.980 --> 00:32:29.119
I say something, now people are listening. And

00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:31.799
so that's a, that's a shift that started to happen

00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:34.420
that changed my man. It changed my whole perspective

00:32:34.420 --> 00:32:37.839
of, of everything. Cause I was like, okay, now

00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:39.400
I need, if I'm going to tell somebody to go buy

00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:41.859
something, I need to make sure it's actually

00:32:41.859 --> 00:32:45.119
good. I actually need to, I'm not, you know,

00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:48.039
it's just like, if you're the CEO of Apple and

00:32:48.039 --> 00:32:51.279
you tell people something is like, uh, okay,

00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:53.049
well. people are going to go, they're going to

00:32:53.049 --> 00:32:55.170
listen, you know, and so you want to make sure

00:32:55.170 --> 00:32:57.750
that you're, you're, you're protecting your influence,

00:32:57.750 --> 00:33:01.309
but you also showing that it's valuable to you

00:33:01.309 --> 00:33:03.390
and you don't want to just, you know, flaunted

00:33:03.390 --> 00:33:05.470
and just jump on whatever's trending on tick

00:33:05.470 --> 00:33:07.750
tock or whatever, but just think about what is

00:33:07.750 --> 00:33:09.349
your brand? What is your, what are you doing?

00:33:09.529 --> 00:33:13.109
Because this is what's impacting people. Wow.

00:33:13.109 --> 00:33:15.269
I like how you said that and how you're in touch

00:33:15.269 --> 00:33:18.549
with the influence that you have. Um, I mean,

00:33:18.549 --> 00:33:22.170
because you are an influencer and when you have

00:33:22.170 --> 00:33:25.069
that number of followers you don't want to just

00:33:25.069 --> 00:33:29.369
arbitrarily start acting a certain way or changing

00:33:29.369 --> 00:33:33.049
your message because these people are they like

00:33:33.049 --> 00:33:36.049
you they like I said they trust you and they're

00:33:36.049 --> 00:33:39.630
all in and that's great that you see it on that

00:33:39.630 --> 00:33:42.809
level you know it's not just about people ask

00:33:42.809 --> 00:33:45.470
me at the beginning of this I call it a project

00:33:45.470 --> 00:33:47.970
I mean it's my podcast but people have asked

00:33:47.970 --> 00:33:51.029
me well how can you make money at it And really

00:33:51.029 --> 00:33:54.569
what I've grown to love about this podcast is

00:33:54.569 --> 00:33:57.609
just the fact that that anybody listens to it

00:33:57.609 --> 00:34:01.369
and if they do that it makes them happier for

00:34:01.369 --> 00:34:05.210
that hour or that day or pick them up in some

00:34:05.210 --> 00:34:08.289
way or they feel like that It's just bringing

00:34:08.289 --> 00:34:11.389
enjoyment. So I'm not trying to change lives.

00:34:11.389 --> 00:34:16.050
I'm trying to brighten days I guess and if anything

00:34:16.050 --> 00:34:18.670
else happens and that's great too, but that that's

00:34:18.670 --> 00:34:20.969
the purpose and people listening, you know, there's

00:34:20.969 --> 00:34:22.550
all kinds of things that you can do. It doesn't

00:34:22.550 --> 00:34:27.030
have to involve media, doing a show, having a

00:34:27.030 --> 00:34:29.250
YouTube channel. There's all kinds of things,

00:34:29.690 --> 00:34:33.090
small moments in life when you encounter other

00:34:33.090 --> 00:34:35.510
people that can make a big difference. I talk

00:34:35.510 --> 00:34:39.750
about that a lot, but Travis, I'm just so enjoying

00:34:39.750 --> 00:34:44.150
this conversation. Me too. Now, I got to ask

00:34:44.150 --> 00:34:47.010
you because I feel like I'm a pretty positive

00:34:47.010 --> 00:34:50.840
person. I do get down sometimes. Everybody does.

00:34:51.420 --> 00:34:54.940
Everybody encounters setbacks. I gotta ask you

00:34:54.940 --> 00:34:58.019
how you reacted a few years ago. I guess you

00:34:58.019 --> 00:35:02.360
and your wife are on a trip to Disney World and

00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:04.519
she noticed and you probably noticed that something

00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:07.699
wasn't quite right there and tell me what was

00:35:07.699 --> 00:35:10.260
going on there and you know what those next few

00:35:10.260 --> 00:35:12.599
weeks and months were like when you know wow

00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:14.980
I got something to deal with here that I wasn't

00:35:14.980 --> 00:35:18.429
this wasn't on my radar. Yes. Yes. You know,

00:35:18.429 --> 00:35:22.190
this is something, um, honestly, because that

00:35:22.190 --> 00:35:24.349
was, uh, cause I got married in 2019. Give a

00:35:24.349 --> 00:35:27.289
little perspective. I got married in 2019 and

00:35:27.289 --> 00:35:32.050
my first year of marriage halfway through, because

00:35:32.050 --> 00:35:34.690
we got married in June, halfway through in January

00:35:34.690 --> 00:35:38.289
was 2020 when 2020, the whole 2020 conundrum

00:35:38.289 --> 00:35:43.269
happened. And, uh, honestly, 2020 for me, just

00:35:43.269 --> 00:35:45.829
to be honest, was about to be the biggest year

00:35:45.829 --> 00:35:48.230
ever. Like I was, I was about to be going on

00:35:48.230 --> 00:35:50.170
tour with some of the biggest artists. Like I

00:35:50.170 --> 00:35:54.710
was like so stoked, like April, March. I had,

00:35:54.909 --> 00:35:58.630
my calendar was full and I was like so excited

00:35:58.630 --> 00:36:03.510
about it. And then whenever January hit, it just

00:36:03.510 --> 00:36:06.070
kind of just set. This was before we even knew

00:36:06.070 --> 00:36:10.969
that COVID was a thing yet. Whenever January

00:36:10.969 --> 00:36:14.159
hit, It changed everything. So right after New

00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:16.579
Year's, we went, me and my wife and some friends

00:36:16.579 --> 00:36:20.519
went to, it was like my first trip, you know,

00:36:20.619 --> 00:36:23.360
married and we went to Disney World. I'd never

00:36:23.360 --> 00:36:25.480
been to Disney World my whole life. And so I've

00:36:25.480 --> 00:36:28.980
always wanted to go there, went there. And man,

00:36:29.179 --> 00:36:33.480
it was, it was awesome. And, but there were some

00:36:33.480 --> 00:36:35.840
incredible things that happened, but some, something

00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:38.980
happened that kind of changed my life. So we

00:36:38.980 --> 00:36:41.500
were, I think we were day two. I was, we were

00:36:41.500 --> 00:36:44.500
going around the parks. We were, you know, just

00:36:44.500 --> 00:36:48.559
doing the whole thing. I just kept, I felt super

00:36:48.559 --> 00:36:52.539
sluggish. I was like, I couldn't stand that long.

00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:56.079
And, and I just like, I was getting super exhausted

00:36:56.079 --> 00:36:58.719
going to the restroom literally every five minutes.

00:36:59.179 --> 00:37:01.500
And my wife was looking at me and she was like,

00:37:01.500 --> 00:37:04.440
is something wrong? What's going on? I mean,

00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:08.300
this was like the most mixed, mixed emotions

00:37:08.300 --> 00:37:11.480
because we became we were the um we were like

00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:14.260
leading the parade at disney world because they

00:37:14.260 --> 00:37:16.400
chose us like they only choose like one group

00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:19.179
the whole time this is like the same day okay

00:37:19.179 --> 00:37:22.699
so i'm like the grand marshals that were the

00:37:22.699 --> 00:37:25.199
grand marshals of like the parade at disney world

00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:27.480
and that was i was like oh my gosh my first day

00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:29.760
at disney world and i were grand marshals it

00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:32.579
was like so many incredible memories but then

00:37:32.860 --> 00:37:35.280
I started feeling this and my wife was like,

00:37:35.500 --> 00:37:37.380
hey, something's going on because this started

00:37:37.380 --> 00:37:41.400
to kept going on. And so we went to the urgent

00:37:41.400 --> 00:37:45.599
care after that. And the doctor told me that

00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:49.199
I had diabetes and that was something I never

00:37:49.199 --> 00:37:53.059
knew was happening. I did not know what was going

00:37:53.059 --> 00:37:55.880
on. And my sugar was like at 389 or something

00:37:55.880 --> 00:37:59.429
like that. And it was really high at the time.

00:37:59.449 --> 00:38:01.650
And I was like, Oh my goodness. I didn't really

00:38:01.650 --> 00:38:04.170
know how impactful that was. And so she told

00:38:04.170 --> 00:38:07.329
me that. And that just kind of rocked my world.

00:38:08.690 --> 00:38:12.070
And so that was kind of like what happened when

00:38:12.070 --> 00:38:15.710
we went to Disney world. And there was just a

00:38:15.710 --> 00:38:17.809
whole lot of other things that happened. And

00:38:17.809 --> 00:38:20.469
this was just kind of how the year started. And

00:38:20.469 --> 00:38:24.829
so I was like, okay. All right. Let's, uh, what

00:38:24.829 --> 00:38:28.219
am I going to do? And so. Think I get this from

00:38:28.219 --> 00:38:31.579
my parents. My parents are very like strong go

00:38:31.579 --> 00:38:34.380
-getter, you know type people like they're they're

00:38:34.380 --> 00:38:37.280
very They just have like a lot of discipline

00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:39.219
and what they do and they just really strong

00:38:39.219 --> 00:38:44.980
and so I Was kind of stubborn too And so what

00:38:44.980 --> 00:38:48.219
I started doing was when I got home, I like completely

00:38:48.219 --> 00:38:50.179
cut out all sugar. Cause I was like, cause I

00:38:50.179 --> 00:38:53.340
was just in diabetic range from what they were

00:38:53.340 --> 00:38:55.719
telling me, my A1C and everything. And so I was

00:38:55.719 --> 00:38:57.820
like, my doctor told me he was like, Hey, if

00:38:57.820 --> 00:38:59.199
you lose some weight, you could probably get

00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:02.500
rid of this. And I was like, okay, cool. I cut

00:39:02.500 --> 00:39:04.579
out sugar for two months, two or three months

00:39:04.579 --> 00:39:08.900
straight. Just like no desserts, nothing. And

00:39:08.900 --> 00:39:11.539
my doctor told me literally, he said, he said,

00:39:11.679 --> 00:39:14.500
Hey, don't just cut sugar, cold turkey. Cause

00:39:14.500 --> 00:39:16.920
you can't like keep up that lifestyle forever.

00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:20.039
You're going to have to bring some kind of, you

00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:23.119
know, sugar in your life at some point. And so

00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:26.519
of course I didn't listen to the doctor and I

00:39:26.519 --> 00:39:31.280
did that. But what happened was, is I lost about,

00:39:31.300 --> 00:39:34.659
I think I lost about 20 or 30 pounds within those

00:39:34.659 --> 00:39:37.619
two or three months. And my doctor said, man,

00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:40.900
whatever you're doing is great, you know? And

00:39:40.900 --> 00:39:44.130
so What started to happen? I didn't even realize

00:39:44.130 --> 00:39:46.449
it at the time is that because I did that little

00:39:46.449 --> 00:39:48.510
stint of like not having any sugar, it changed

00:39:48.510 --> 00:39:52.590
my palette. And so because of that, I started

00:39:52.590 --> 00:39:55.170
to not want as much sweet things. I couldn't

00:39:55.170 --> 00:39:58.010
eat as much sweet things. And that led me to

00:39:58.010 --> 00:40:00.550
losing about, I think close to a hundred pounds.

00:40:01.550 --> 00:40:05.449
And so, which that was, um, but that was over

00:40:05.449 --> 00:40:08.070
the past like year or so, that entire year of

00:40:08.070 --> 00:40:10.650
doing that. So that was, that was, that was kind

00:40:10.650 --> 00:40:13.199
of how the year started. But yeah, there was

00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:16.199
like quite a uh, a start of that year I don't

00:40:16.199 --> 00:40:17.760
know how far you want me to go into the story

00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:22.360
because this could go on Wow Now at any point

00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:26.019
did you think? Oh, this is such a drag. Why did

00:40:26.019 --> 00:40:28.719
why am I having to deal with this? Or did you

00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:31.500
just approach it like well? I mean, I I can't

00:40:31.500 --> 00:40:34.000
believe you even against your doctor's advice.

00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:38.059
You cut everything out and probably You know

00:40:38.059 --> 00:40:41.820
went through those uh physiological Push -and

00:40:41.820 --> 00:40:44.699
-pull feelings or whatever of like gosh, I really

00:40:44.699 --> 00:40:50.380
want a Hershey's bar or whatever it is, but I'm

00:40:50.380 --> 00:40:54.860
gonna leave it alone. Oh, yeah But did you your

00:40:54.860 --> 00:40:59.139
mom was ice cream? Oh Yeah. Oh, I love some ice

00:40:59.139 --> 00:41:01.719
cream, but I guess did you just kind of roll

00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:06.900
with it? Yeah There was something that I actually

00:41:07.669 --> 00:41:10.309
My wife actually was the one who influenced me

00:41:10.309 --> 00:41:13.389
on this early on in our marriage. She was really,

00:41:13.389 --> 00:41:16.409
or actually I think we were dating. She started

00:41:16.409 --> 00:41:21.010
going to, um, uh, she, I guess one of her friends

00:41:21.010 --> 00:41:22.949
had lost a lot of weight and she was like, Hey,

00:41:22.969 --> 00:41:25.070
how did you lose weight or whatever? And she

00:41:25.070 --> 00:41:28.250
had said, Oh, they, she went to a therapist and

00:41:28.250 --> 00:41:30.829
they, you know, talked about it and changed her

00:41:30.829 --> 00:41:33.389
mindset about food. And so ever since she told

00:41:33.389 --> 00:41:36.909
me that story, looked at my situation completely

00:41:36.909 --> 00:41:40.409
differently and honestly what I started to think

00:41:40.409 --> 00:41:46.230
about is this whole aspect of what is the mindset

00:41:46.230 --> 00:41:50.010
my mindset behind food and that's what changed

00:41:50.010 --> 00:41:52.809
my life because a lot of times when we when we

00:41:52.809 --> 00:41:55.409
eat food we only eating for pleasure we're not

00:41:55.409 --> 00:41:57.110
really thinking about what it's doing to our

00:41:57.110 --> 00:41:59.510
body how it's affecting our brain how it's affecting

00:41:59.510 --> 00:42:03.219
our performance and so What I started, what started

00:42:03.219 --> 00:42:05.360
to happen for me is that I'm like, okay, yes,

00:42:05.619 --> 00:42:07.239
there are times I can eat it for pleasure. I

00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:08.800
could, you know, I could have that little bit

00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:11.400
of ice cream here, you know, or whatever. But

00:42:11.400 --> 00:42:14.159
then I started to realize, you know, as I was

00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:16.719
going through this, I was performing better.

00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:20.139
My mind was a little bit sharper and I was like,

00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:23.639
huh. Okay. And then as I started to go through

00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:27.079
this own journey myself with this, I started

00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:30.300
to understand like. Okay, this is the reason

00:42:30.300 --> 00:42:33.860
why people who are high performers like Steve

00:42:33.860 --> 00:42:37.420
Jobs or the Mark Zuckerberg's or the, you know,

00:42:37.699 --> 00:42:40.599
all these crazy high CEOs, when you look at their

00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:43.139
lifestyles, what they're doing is they're focusing

00:42:43.139 --> 00:42:45.539
on their, they're focusing on their performance

00:42:45.539 --> 00:42:48.769
because the level that they have to carry and

00:42:48.769 --> 00:42:51.429
the level that their mind has to think about

00:42:51.429 --> 00:42:54.510
is so much, that's what their job is, is their

00:42:54.510 --> 00:42:57.130
brain. Their brain is the job. And so if you

00:42:57.130 --> 00:42:59.909
don't take care of your brain and make sure you're

00:42:59.909 --> 00:43:02.869
watching how much stress you're taking on and

00:43:02.869 --> 00:43:05.769
working out and making sure you're focused and

00:43:05.769 --> 00:43:07.510
different things like that, like if you're not

00:43:07.510 --> 00:43:09.989
working on your health, then you won't be able

00:43:09.989 --> 00:43:14.309
to achieve that level of success. Because once

00:43:14.309 --> 00:43:19.230
you don't go from just being lazy to being a

00:43:19.230 --> 00:43:25.690
multi -billionaire CEO, there's a reason why

00:43:25.690 --> 00:43:28.650
there's a separation. There's such a far separation.

00:43:29.070 --> 00:43:32.190
And so I started to realize that over this time

00:43:32.190 --> 00:43:34.070
period of going through diabetes and different

00:43:34.070 --> 00:43:36.750
things like that. And so I was like, oh, wow.

00:43:37.449 --> 00:43:39.510
I started to notice that my performance started

00:43:39.510 --> 00:43:41.789
to be better when it comes to doing YouTube videos.

00:43:41.809 --> 00:43:45.170
I started noticing better ideas, and I think

00:43:45.170 --> 00:43:48.150
that's what started to attribute to myself, like,

00:43:48.329 --> 00:43:54.150
okay, this is actually what I needed to do. And

00:43:54.150 --> 00:43:56.289
I honestly think it was, you know, because I'm

00:43:56.289 --> 00:43:59.409
a believer, I'm a Christian, and so I believe

00:43:59.409 --> 00:44:01.030
it was like kind of God's way of telling me,

00:44:01.030 --> 00:44:05.110
hey, this is what you need to do. To you know

00:44:05.110 --> 00:44:08.130
level up what you're doing. And so that's honestly

00:44:08.130 --> 00:44:11.610
what I feel like I got from that Wow. Yeah, you

00:44:11.610 --> 00:44:14.750
just you never know What's ahead of you tomorrow

00:44:14.750 --> 00:44:17.969
next week? We should always expect the unexpected

00:44:17.969 --> 00:44:21.449
and I just I love the story there and how you've

00:44:21.449 --> 00:44:24.130
dealt with it and kind of how You spun it into

00:44:24.130 --> 00:44:26.710
a positive and you're right, you know really

00:44:26.710 --> 00:44:31.610
high performers. They don't just eat cheese puffs

00:44:31.610 --> 00:44:34.659
and double quarter pounder I mean they're double

00:44:34.659 --> 00:44:37.500
cheeseburgers and whatever they just want to

00:44:37.500 --> 00:44:40.559
shove down like they they have pretty structured

00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:44.840
meal plans I would think most of them do um so

00:44:44.840 --> 00:44:50.260
a lot of fruits and veggies and so I just I like

00:44:50.260 --> 00:44:54.039
the story and how you've reacted and great stuff

00:44:54.039 --> 00:44:57.760
there Travis I also I don't want to get too far

00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:00.260
here without mentioning the book that's on Amazon

00:45:00.260 --> 00:45:03.219
is this right title do it yourself bass method

00:45:03.219 --> 00:45:08.000
yes yes that's a book that just finished and

00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:11.519
released with uh hal lennard which is a music

00:45:11.519 --> 00:45:15.739
book publisher uh just released it last may uh

00:45:15.739 --> 00:45:19.099
2023 and so yeah it's it's out there basically

00:45:19.099 --> 00:45:21.519
the whole concept of the book is taking you from

00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:24.010
not knowing anything about the base To being

00:45:24.010 --> 00:45:26.010
able to play with the band by the time you get

00:45:26.010 --> 00:45:27.889
to the end of the book That's kind of the whole

00:45:27.889 --> 00:45:30.809
goal. It comes with dvds It has music a lot of

00:45:30.809 --> 00:45:33.409
common songs and things that that you may have

00:45:33.409 --> 00:45:36.010
um Heard before on the radio and different things

00:45:36.010 --> 00:45:39.150
like that Now also folks, uh, if you go to the

00:45:39.150 --> 00:45:43.530
website travis dykes music .com That's travis

00:45:43.530 --> 00:45:46.909
Common spelling like my brother Which I didn't

00:45:46.909 --> 00:45:49.429
even mention. We're so far along here. My brother

00:45:49.429 --> 00:45:52.530
travis has finally appeared on the show after

00:45:52.530 --> 00:45:56.170
many months So the second Travis on the show

00:45:56.170 --> 00:46:00.010
today. I love it. I just love talking to another

00:46:00.010 --> 00:46:04.849
Travis as well, but Go to the website because

00:46:04.849 --> 00:46:07.809
you've got an apparel line. Yeah. Yeah, I've

00:46:07.809 --> 00:46:10.469
got some just kind of some fun merch the way

00:46:10.469 --> 00:46:13.949
I am kind of started the idea for it is that

00:46:13.949 --> 00:46:17.610
I want to make good quality merch in good quality

00:46:17.610 --> 00:46:20.050
clothing for musicians that are traveling that

00:46:20.050 --> 00:46:23.769
they can wear and that they can use that's minimal.

00:46:24.190 --> 00:46:25.909
And so if you look at any of my designs, it's

00:46:25.909 --> 00:46:28.070
like a small design, like the shirt I have on

00:46:28.070 --> 00:46:31.250
right now is actually. one of my designs which

00:46:31.250 --> 00:46:33.909
is just like a small little you know logo right

00:46:33.909 --> 00:46:36.510
there in the middle just so it's easy to put

00:46:36.510 --> 00:46:38.789
with other things and it's not too overbearing

00:46:38.789 --> 00:46:40.889
because that's the one thing that i never really

00:46:40.889 --> 00:46:42.969
liked about a lot of you know clothing designs

00:46:42.969 --> 00:46:46.610
and stuff so but yeah i have that on there travis

00:46:46.610 --> 00:46:49.550
i i hope this question isn't too generic but

00:46:49.550 --> 00:46:53.340
who are some influences people Bass players that

00:46:53.340 --> 00:46:55.559
you've liked for a long time or maybe somebody

00:46:55.559 --> 00:46:57.340
that you've just kind of picked up on in the

00:46:57.340 --> 00:46:59.739
past few years Do you have some guys or girls

00:46:59.739 --> 00:47:04.719
that you know? There's a guy named Justin Rains.

00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:08.320
He's an incredible Gospel bass player. He's impacted

00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:10.780
me a lot definitely over the years of being a

00:47:10.780 --> 00:47:12.139
bass player, but there's another bass player

00:47:12.139 --> 00:47:16.360
as well That's got completely different style

00:47:16.360 --> 00:47:19.800
completely different world is a pinot palindino

00:47:20.090 --> 00:47:23.030
which he, uh, is a bass player. He plays with

00:47:23.030 --> 00:47:27.110
the who he plays with the John Mayer trio. And

00:47:27.110 --> 00:47:30.110
so like he's incredible, incredible. And if you're

00:47:30.110 --> 00:47:31.690
a bass player, you don't know who Pino Paladino

00:47:31.690 --> 00:47:33.969
is. You need to go search his name like right

00:47:33.969 --> 00:47:38.489
now. Incredibly impactful, uh, musician, but

00:47:38.489 --> 00:47:41.369
those are probably a couple of the, um, I guess

00:47:41.369 --> 00:47:43.929
when it comes to bass players and things that

00:47:43.929 --> 00:47:46.469
really kind of inspire me over the years, as

00:47:46.469 --> 00:47:50.510
far as it's just like people to role model after

00:47:50.510 --> 00:47:54.090
it in my playing musical ability. Couple more

00:47:54.090 --> 00:47:56.250
questions here. If you're up for it, Travis,

00:47:56.309 --> 00:47:58.809
we're going to have to do a part two. Oh yeah,

00:47:58.949 --> 00:48:02.130
for sure. How about this? The first time that

00:48:02.130 --> 00:48:05.610
you got a touring gig and you're traveling around

00:48:05.610 --> 00:48:09.289
and it's a whole new experience. Were you nervous

00:48:09.289 --> 00:48:13.050
about the whole thing? Were you nervous about

00:48:13.050 --> 00:48:15.949
just the stage performance or were you like,

00:48:16.230 --> 00:48:19.929
this is fantastic I'm so thrilled to finally

00:48:19.929 --> 00:48:21.730
be doing this and being up in front of an audience

00:48:21.730 --> 00:48:25.670
like that first time what was it like it's funny

00:48:25.670 --> 00:48:27.429
because there's a diff there's a few different

00:48:27.429 --> 00:48:29.849
levels of this to me because I've been playing

00:48:29.849 --> 00:48:33.090
in front of people since I was like 13 but it's

00:48:33.090 --> 00:48:35.190
a completely different world when you're doing

00:48:35.190 --> 00:48:37.650
it for money when you're doing it to get paid

00:48:37.650 --> 00:48:41.429
whole nother world whole nother world and so

00:48:41.429 --> 00:48:43.829
I will say one of the first times I was playing

00:48:44.700 --> 00:48:48.559
did a tour with a signed artist and that was

00:48:48.559 --> 00:48:52.119
that was the time I learned so much because We

00:48:52.119 --> 00:48:54.420
were traveling playing these opening sets for

00:48:54.420 --> 00:48:56.519
big artists, you know opening for big artists

00:48:56.519 --> 00:49:00.559
and doing these things and I remember I started

00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:04.019
to realize we're traveling and Doing all these

00:49:04.019 --> 00:49:06.119
different, you know being in the airport going

00:49:06.119 --> 00:49:09.420
to the hotel traveling in a van for out like

00:49:09.630 --> 00:49:13.050
90 % of the day and we are only going across

00:49:13.050 --> 00:49:16.090
the country to play a 30 minute set they were

00:49:16.090 --> 00:49:19.030
only going to play 30 minutes of music and I

00:49:19.030 --> 00:49:22.949
was like Wow, that was something I did impacted

00:49:22.949 --> 00:49:25.909
me so much because I was like, oh wow So this

00:49:25.909 --> 00:49:29.530
is a I've got to learn how to just hang with

00:49:29.530 --> 00:49:33.210
people pretty much the whole time and honestly

00:49:33.210 --> 00:49:35.969
that was like something that that that changed

00:49:35.969 --> 00:49:39.139
a lot for me, but I will say as far as nerves

00:49:39.139 --> 00:49:43.039
go I was nervous of course because nobody wants

00:49:43.039 --> 00:49:45.960
to you know mess up on stage especially if you're

00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:47.679
getting paid for it they're like oh my gosh you

00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:50.940
know but people realize that you're human I realized

00:49:50.940 --> 00:49:52.519
that over the years people realize you're human

00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:55.179
that's the whole point of having this you know

00:49:55.179 --> 00:49:58.139
going to a live show is that it's not just a

00:49:58.139 --> 00:50:01.039
track that's perfect you know that's part of

00:50:01.039 --> 00:50:04.429
the experience now Course, you don't want to

00:50:04.429 --> 00:50:07.909
make that like a normal thing. Like you're consistently

00:50:07.909 --> 00:50:09.989
making big mess ups or anything like it. No,

00:50:10.030 --> 00:50:11.690
no, you don't want to make that a normal thing,

00:50:11.769 --> 00:50:14.670
but if it happens occasionally, you just roll

00:50:14.670 --> 00:50:16.989
with it and it's a part of the experience. And

00:50:16.989 --> 00:50:19.070
that's something that's great. And when, when

00:50:19.070 --> 00:50:22.030
it comes to nerves as well as like something

00:50:22.030 --> 00:50:24.909
I've, um, I've actually told people before is

00:50:24.909 --> 00:50:27.809
that Even to this day, I still get a little bit

00:50:27.809 --> 00:50:30.090
of nerves going on the stage. Even though, you

00:50:30.090 --> 00:50:31.929
know, I've been doing this full time since I

00:50:31.929 --> 00:50:36.550
was 18 years old and I still till this day will

00:50:36.550 --> 00:50:39.230
get nerves. But what I've started to do and what

00:50:39.230 --> 00:50:42.809
has changed about it over the years is that the

00:50:42.809 --> 00:50:44.909
energy, you get like those nerves and it's like,

00:50:45.030 --> 00:50:46.789
you're like, okay, you get this little jolt of

00:50:46.789 --> 00:50:51.289
energy and adrenaline going. If first, when you're

00:50:51.289 --> 00:50:53.929
young into, you know, being in front of people,

00:50:54.300 --> 00:50:56.139
you don't know what to do with that adrenaline.

00:50:56.800 --> 00:51:02.119
It's just like, what do I do? But the more you

00:51:02.119 --> 00:51:04.440
do it, you start to learn how to channel it.

00:51:04.860 --> 00:51:06.980
And then the way I started to do it is I started

00:51:06.980 --> 00:51:10.719
to channel it as focus versus channeling it as

00:51:10.719 --> 00:51:13.480
just like spontaneous energy, just like to go

00:51:13.480 --> 00:51:16.199
wherever. Because I think that's the way when

00:51:16.199 --> 00:51:18.860
you're younger, that's what your mind just goes

00:51:18.860 --> 00:51:20.699
to a bunch of different things, a bunch of different

00:51:20.699 --> 00:51:23.599
whatever. But over the years, what I started

00:51:23.599 --> 00:51:26.860
to do is learn how to change my mind to to just

00:51:26.860 --> 00:51:30.019
use that energy to focus on what I'm doing and

00:51:30.019 --> 00:51:34.139
to focus on the job and what I'm supposed to

00:51:34.139 --> 00:51:37.619
be doing in that moment. Because when you do

00:51:37.619 --> 00:51:41.739
that, then it just makes it so much easier to

00:51:41.739 --> 00:51:44.860
just to everything to feel natural. Like if you

00:51:44.860 --> 00:51:48.090
wanted to. Walk on the catwalk. Oh my gosh. Learning

00:51:48.090 --> 00:51:50.090
how to walk on the catwalk. That was crazy. Go

00:51:50.090 --> 00:51:52.210
and play in an arena show and you're walking

00:51:52.210 --> 00:51:53.889
in the catwalk. You look at all these people

00:51:53.889 --> 00:51:55.949
and you're like, oh my gosh, I'm playing the

00:51:55.949 --> 00:51:59.070
bass. Oh, okay. I got it. I got to look. There's,

00:51:59.070 --> 00:52:01.730
there's so many different things, you know, that

00:52:01.730 --> 00:52:04.750
to come with it, but that's where, where those

00:52:04.750 --> 00:52:07.210
nerves, you start to change your mindset to it.

00:52:07.289 --> 00:52:10.449
It's like, okay, I'm here to do this job and

00:52:10.449 --> 00:52:13.230
I'm just going to channel this and make this

00:52:13.230 --> 00:52:16.559
the best show or concert. that i'm gonna you

00:52:16.559 --> 00:52:19.960
know i've ever done how about are you connecting

00:52:19.960 --> 00:52:22.440
with people in the audience when it looks like

00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:24.900
they're having a good time and uh you do the

00:52:24.900 --> 00:52:29.420
eye contact and the the big grin yeah no you

00:52:29.420 --> 00:52:31.940
know that's actually funny you know sometimes

00:52:31.940 --> 00:52:35.380
that for me i'm not like my personality is not

00:52:35.380 --> 00:52:38.699
like one where i'm just like i just want to just

00:52:38.699 --> 00:52:42.429
you know crowd surf or something like that. That's

00:52:42.429 --> 00:52:44.929
definitely not my personality because my personality

00:52:44.929 --> 00:52:47.050
is more of like, I want to make sure I get every

00:52:47.050 --> 00:52:49.750
single note right. But that's something I learned.

00:52:50.190 --> 00:52:52.030
I learned definitely playing, you know, with

00:52:52.030 --> 00:52:53.730
signed artists and different things like that

00:52:53.730 --> 00:52:56.409
in the professional world. It's about the whole

00:52:56.409 --> 00:52:58.329
feeling. You got to move. You got to, you got

00:52:58.329 --> 00:53:01.809
to go, you have to connect. And, um, that feeling

00:53:01.809 --> 00:53:03.989
of looking at somebody and they're looking at

00:53:03.989 --> 00:53:09.510
you has, has put me at a standstill before. It

00:53:09.510 --> 00:53:11.989
is just like, I'm playing and then all of a sudden,

00:53:12.570 --> 00:53:14.050
there's just somebody who's just sitting there

00:53:14.050 --> 00:53:16.130
and they're just looking at you, just right in

00:53:16.130 --> 00:53:19.130
your face, right in your eyes. And I was like,

00:53:19.210 --> 00:53:23.489
what am I supposed to do with that? And honestly,

00:53:23.929 --> 00:53:27.030
that, I will tell you that it's fun once you

00:53:27.030 --> 00:53:29.030
get over that and you know, there's going to

00:53:29.030 --> 00:53:33.170
be some, some weirdos in the crowd, but, but

00:53:33.170 --> 00:53:35.369
sometimes it just, it just kind of hits you like

00:53:35.369 --> 00:53:40.719
different and it's like, Oh, Oh, all right. Oh,

00:53:40.719 --> 00:53:44.000
man. Yeah. And then after the show is over, do

00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:47.260
you have any sort of routines for how you step

00:53:47.260 --> 00:53:51.099
down from that adrenaline? And are you ready

00:53:51.099 --> 00:53:54.960
to just call it a night, go to bed or do you?

00:53:55.320 --> 00:53:58.900
Yeah. How do you relax after a performance? Pretty

00:53:58.900 --> 00:54:03.579
easily, because usually that day is a lot. So

00:54:03.579 --> 00:54:05.579
it's because it's, it's kind of like going and

00:54:05.579 --> 00:54:07.599
doing a stressful, something stressful. Like

00:54:07.599 --> 00:54:09.340
you're, you're like, you're building it. You're

00:54:09.340 --> 00:54:10.760
building up to this moment, building up to this

00:54:10.760 --> 00:54:13.139
moment. And then it's just like the moment happens

00:54:13.139 --> 00:54:15.659
and you're just like, Oh, it's like your body

00:54:15.659 --> 00:54:17.940
finally relaxed and you could just like crash.

00:54:18.659 --> 00:54:22.519
Usually, um, what happens is that at the end,

00:54:22.739 --> 00:54:24.960
depending on if I'm playing a festival or what

00:54:24.960 --> 00:54:28.139
the event is, we use, I usually want to go get

00:54:28.139 --> 00:54:31.460
something to eat and then just crash. You know,

00:54:31.659 --> 00:54:35.559
and sometimes there's moments, um, actually now

00:54:35.559 --> 00:54:38.719
with certain artists where we do like a, uh,

00:54:38.719 --> 00:54:41.039
the whole band, not just the artists would go

00:54:41.039 --> 00:54:43.780
to the merch booth and sign and take pictures,

00:54:43.980 --> 00:54:45.139
sign autographs, take pictures and different

00:54:45.139 --> 00:54:48.460
things like that. And so that could be sometimes

00:54:48.460 --> 00:54:51.159
a little draining, but that's sometimes a part

00:54:51.159 --> 00:54:53.559
of it. But it's it really, honestly, for me,

00:54:53.639 --> 00:54:56.320
I could just eat a cheeseburger and go to bed,

00:54:56.320 --> 00:54:58.369
which I don't eat a cheeseburger. We're talking

00:54:58.369 --> 00:55:03.349
about healthy things But but I do like eat usually

00:55:03.349 --> 00:55:06.750
eat something and just crash I gotta I gotta

00:55:06.750 --> 00:55:10.789
mention trey here your brother and Your connection.

00:55:10.789 --> 00:55:13.329
I know you guys probably don't get to hang a

00:55:13.329 --> 00:55:15.349
whole lot. What's it like when you get together

00:55:15.349 --> 00:55:18.230
now? I know he's super proud of you How do you

00:55:18.230 --> 00:55:19.869
guys how do you guys get along? What's it like

00:55:19.869 --> 00:55:23.389
when uh trey and travis are hanging out? you

00:55:23.389 --> 00:55:27.750
know That has changed over the years. Um, it's

00:55:27.500 --> 00:55:30.400
It's always like this dynamic because I'm, me

00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:32.980
and Trey, Trey is 14 years different. Like we

00:55:32.980 --> 00:55:35.579
have a 14 year gap between us. And so there's

00:55:35.579 --> 00:55:39.139
always this big brother, little brother dynamic,

00:55:39.340 --> 00:55:44.780
dynamic always. Um, and so I think it's, it's

00:55:44.780 --> 00:55:46.599
been great and it's changed over the years because

00:55:46.599 --> 00:55:49.699
now I feel like I have, I've kind of earned a

00:55:49.699 --> 00:55:51.780
little bit of respect from him, which is, you

00:55:51.780 --> 00:55:53.980
know, awesome for me. Cause I, my whole life

00:55:53.980 --> 00:55:55.539
I've been trying to earn respect from my big

00:55:55.539 --> 00:56:00.090
brother. And so, but, um, I was actually thinking

00:56:00.090 --> 00:56:02.210
about this because I figured you, you may ask,

00:56:02.210 --> 00:56:04.869
you know, the correlation and, you know, about

00:56:04.869 --> 00:56:07.469
me and trade something that I don't even know

00:56:07.469 --> 00:56:10.570
if I've ever said it on a podcast before, but

00:56:10.570 --> 00:56:13.869
my brother actually, because he went to the military

00:56:13.869 --> 00:56:17.210
and he, you know, I'm sure I listened to the

00:56:17.210 --> 00:56:19.369
episode where you talked to him about like him

00:56:19.369 --> 00:56:21.929
joining the service and everything. But the other

00:56:21.929 --> 00:56:24.730
side of that in my perspective was, um, kind

00:56:24.730 --> 00:56:28.449
of a little bit different. It actually is crazy

00:56:28.449 --> 00:56:32.670
because I didn't realize how impactful indirect

00:56:32.670 --> 00:56:36.989
influences are, indirect things. And so this

00:56:36.989 --> 00:56:40.050
was an indirect influence moment. And so when

00:56:40.050 --> 00:56:43.230
I was younger, he went to the military. I remember

00:56:43.230 --> 00:56:45.469
the whole story, my mom and everything, and everybody

00:56:45.469 --> 00:56:48.489
like, oh my gosh, what's going to happen? I remember

00:56:48.489 --> 00:56:52.170
we went to Paris Island when he graduated. And

00:56:52.170 --> 00:56:54.570
I remember my dad was so proud. My parents are

00:56:54.570 --> 00:56:59.480
so proud. And in that moment, I watch, I was

00:56:59.480 --> 00:57:02.119
watching him march, you know, with them and their

00:57:02.119 --> 00:57:05.320
graduation ceremony. And it just made me, it

00:57:05.320 --> 00:57:07.980
really sparked something in me to do, to be something

00:57:07.980 --> 00:57:12.440
more, you know? And so I was like, Oh man, I

00:57:12.440 --> 00:57:13.679
want to, I want to try, I want to do that. I

00:57:13.679 --> 00:57:15.699
want to, I want to be confident. I want to do

00:57:15.699 --> 00:57:18.239
this thing, you know? And just a little background

00:57:18.239 --> 00:57:21.320
of me, I was homeschooled my entire life. I was

00:57:21.320 --> 00:57:23.820
homeschooled from first grade all the way through

00:57:23.820 --> 00:57:28.480
high school. And so for me, seeing him in that

00:57:28.480 --> 00:57:30.400
scenario gave me this confidence to be like,

00:57:30.460 --> 00:57:33.960
Hey, I don't, you know, I can do more, you know,

00:57:33.960 --> 00:57:36.860
than, than just, you know, being what everybody

00:57:36.860 --> 00:57:41.000
else is being. And so he did that and that was

00:57:41.000 --> 00:57:42.639
an indirect influence. I didn't even realize

00:57:42.639 --> 00:57:45.760
until like I became an adult that impacted my

00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:49.099
life in a really, really big way. And so from

00:57:49.099 --> 00:57:52.659
there, I went to, um, actually doing a kind of

00:57:52.659 --> 00:57:55.360
a junior kind of military organization called

00:57:55.360 --> 00:57:58.079
Civil War Patrol, which actually me joining,

00:57:58.579 --> 00:58:00.579
me joining that actually changed my life when

00:58:00.579 --> 00:58:03.519
it came to leadership and all the things that

00:58:03.519 --> 00:58:05.420
you would learn in the military without actually

00:58:05.420 --> 00:58:09.320
joining the military. And, um, and so I will

00:58:09.320 --> 00:58:12.139
say like that's impacted my life. And I think

00:58:12.139 --> 00:58:15.300
that's impacted our relationship to in a way

00:58:15.300 --> 00:58:17.599
that we, this kind of unspoken because we're

00:58:17.800 --> 00:58:22.380
The dynamic of my life growing up with my siblings

00:58:22.380 --> 00:58:27.659
is that we were always just open communicators,

00:58:28.539 --> 00:58:34.320
always. And so I think now pushing this open

00:58:34.320 --> 00:58:37.860
communication and also just being open about

00:58:37.860 --> 00:58:40.320
things like, hey, you had an impact on my life.

00:58:40.590 --> 00:58:43.829
And I never told you this, you know, that's kind

00:58:43.829 --> 00:58:46.590
of like how our dynamic is, is starting. It's

00:58:46.590 --> 00:58:49.090
almost like we're rediscovering each other at

00:58:49.090 --> 00:58:51.949
this, at this point of like, Oh man, you know,

00:58:52.409 --> 00:58:54.690
yeah, that I didn't even know that about you.

00:58:54.690 --> 00:58:56.550
Like I was actually listening to the podcast

00:58:56.550 --> 00:58:57.989
with when y 'all were talking, when y 'all were

00:58:57.989 --> 00:59:00.030
talking and I was like, man, you know, I actually

00:59:00.030 --> 00:59:03.269
didn't even realize that. And I was like, huh,

00:59:03.530 --> 00:59:06.510
wow. And so, and so there's, there's certain

00:59:06.510 --> 00:59:09.769
things that, um, that I feel like that. As far

00:59:09.769 --> 00:59:12.750
as our dynamic over the years has, has grown.

00:59:13.369 --> 00:59:15.889
It's almost like we're, because we become adult,

00:59:15.909 --> 00:59:18.590
like I'm, I'm, I'm becoming more of an adult.

00:59:18.769 --> 00:59:20.769
He's been an adult for way longer than I have,

00:59:21.130 --> 00:59:23.969
but there, because of that, I'm starting to realize,

00:59:24.010 --> 00:59:27.329
oh man, it's okay to say these things. It's okay

00:59:27.329 --> 00:59:29.949
to have these open, more open conversations.

00:59:30.070 --> 00:59:32.329
And I think honestly that listening to y 'all's

00:59:32.329 --> 00:59:34.710
last year, y 'all's podcast showed me a lot.

00:59:34.849 --> 00:59:38.010
And I was like, huh, I need to, I probably need

00:59:38.010 --> 00:59:40.380
to, you know, Ask them about some of these things

00:59:40.380 --> 00:59:42.800
because I actually didn't even know being so

00:59:42.800 --> 00:59:46.860
young what was happening in those moments Isn't

00:59:46.860 --> 00:59:48.579
that something I mean because I was doing the

00:59:48.579 --> 00:59:50.920
math. You must have been what about four years

00:59:50.920 --> 00:59:58.519
old five Just a small child and he probably didn't

00:59:58.519 --> 01:00:02.320
fully realize The impact of just that that moment

01:00:02.320 --> 01:00:07.829
was gonna have on you Wow My gosh, yeah. This

01:00:07.829 --> 01:00:11.769
has just been inspirational in a small way, maybe

01:00:11.769 --> 01:00:13.909
a big way for a lot of you people listening.

01:00:15.070 --> 01:00:16.750
Travis, anything else that we haven't covered?

01:00:17.409 --> 01:00:19.349
I'm sure there's something, because we've already

01:00:19.349 --> 01:00:24.250
agreed to do a second episode. But anything else

01:00:24.250 --> 01:00:28.730
you'd like to plug? Well, yeah. I'm always working

01:00:28.730 --> 01:00:30.530
on stuff. Definitely go check out my YouTube

01:00:30.530 --> 01:00:34.639
channel. I'm trying to... Continue to post more

01:00:34.639 --> 01:00:37.659
and more entertaining content for for you guys.

01:00:37.659 --> 01:00:41.699
That's not just around bass but around Just the

01:00:41.699 --> 01:00:44.760
whole music lifestyle as well. So definitely

01:00:44.760 --> 01:00:48.940
go check out my channel and yeah Okay, a couple

01:00:48.940 --> 01:00:51.360
silly questions. These aren't gonna get too crazy,

01:00:51.400 --> 01:00:54.360
but like a lot of couples you probably have different

01:00:54.360 --> 01:00:57.780
interests different movies and things are there

01:00:57.780 --> 01:01:00.159
movies that that Caitlin likes to watch that

01:01:00.380 --> 01:01:02.440
you didn't think that you would like it, but

01:01:02.440 --> 01:01:05.059
like a movie or something that you're like, you

01:01:05.059 --> 01:01:06.820
know what? That's not, that's not so bad. Or

01:01:06.820 --> 01:01:09.699
a show that she has wanted you to watch with

01:01:09.699 --> 01:01:13.380
her that is right up her alley. Not so much yours,

01:01:13.380 --> 01:01:15.599
but you're like, okay, this is better than I

01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:20.199
thought it would be. Yes, actually it's probably

01:01:20.199 --> 01:01:24.219
going to be crazy, but the office, the office

01:01:24.219 --> 01:01:26.860
was definitely something I didn't know about

01:01:26.860 --> 01:01:30.090
growing up or never really watched. The office

01:01:30.090 --> 01:01:32.369
and parks and rec are probably the two things

01:01:32.369 --> 01:01:34.349
that first I was just like what is this? What

01:01:34.349 --> 01:01:38.730
is this humor? And then I it clicked and I was

01:01:38.730 --> 01:01:43.570
like this is actually hilarious Yeah, that's

01:01:43.570 --> 01:01:47.690
a good one How about somewhere in all your travels?

01:01:49.030 --> 01:01:50.909
What what's somewhere that you've only been once

01:01:50.909 --> 01:01:53.409
and you'd like to go back But it's you're not

01:01:53.409 --> 01:01:55.190
sure when you're busy. You got a lot going on,

01:01:55.230 --> 01:01:59.559
but you just had a had a really good time Hmm.

01:01:59.900 --> 01:02:03.599
That's a great question. There is some of the

01:02:03.599 --> 01:02:05.980
travels probably a blur, right? When you're on

01:02:05.980 --> 01:02:10.039
tour. Oh yeah. Because you're like half sleep,

01:02:10.039 --> 01:02:12.699
you know, most of the times when you're walking

01:02:12.699 --> 01:02:15.340
in these places though, honestly, I'm trying

01:02:15.340 --> 01:02:19.900
to think, um, one place that was just insane.

01:02:20.659 --> 01:02:24.610
I like to go visit again, probably London. London,

01:02:24.650 --> 01:02:28.349
England was so much fun for me. Definitely playing

01:02:28.349 --> 01:02:31.369
music in London is man, it's just, it's like

01:02:31.369 --> 01:02:36.210
a cleaner New York city in my mind. And everybody's

01:02:36.210 --> 01:02:39.409
proper. It seems like, you know, very posh, you

01:02:39.409 --> 01:02:40.889
know, because their accents and different things

01:02:40.889 --> 01:02:43.769
like that. And you kind of feel like it's this

01:02:43.769 --> 01:02:47.230
comfort in, you know, going to a culture that's

01:02:47.230 --> 01:02:51.420
very similar, but not the same, you know. And

01:02:51.420 --> 01:02:53.900
so I really, I just, I love that place. It's

01:02:53.900 --> 01:02:56.960
so much fun. Okay. Two more little lightning

01:02:56.960 --> 01:03:01.960
round questions. Do you enjoy sunsets, long walks

01:03:01.960 --> 01:03:06.699
on the beach? Yes, actually, you know, I was

01:03:06.699 --> 01:03:09.500
actually listening to a podcast today. It was,

01:03:09.559 --> 01:03:12.460
it was a neurologist or a neuroscientist and

01:03:12.460 --> 01:03:15.659
if she was talking about how nature is really

01:03:15.659 --> 01:03:18.460
good for your sense of comfort and wellbeing.

01:03:19.139 --> 01:03:21.699
And like just mentally, and she was talking about

01:03:21.699 --> 01:03:23.699
the studies and different things like that. And

01:03:23.699 --> 01:03:26.059
honestly, for me, that's always been a big thing.

01:03:26.380 --> 01:03:28.719
You know, that's the reason why, especially when

01:03:28.719 --> 01:03:32.480
doing, you know, kind of a media type of path

01:03:32.480 --> 01:03:34.260
of what I'm doing is like, I'm in, I've been

01:03:34.260 --> 01:03:37.139
in this room most of this week, you know, not

01:03:37.139 --> 01:03:38.699
getting outside of the house. I've been recording

01:03:38.699 --> 01:03:41.440
videos, doing whatever business stuff, all this

01:03:41.440 --> 01:03:44.719
kind of stuff right here. And so sometimes it

01:03:44.719 --> 01:03:48.929
is the best thing. to do for myself, especially

01:03:48.929 --> 01:03:53.050
is just walk outside. And so I love walking outside.

01:03:53.130 --> 01:03:56.570
I love even going on hikes. Now my wife, she

01:03:56.570 --> 01:03:59.610
hates outdoor stuff. It's just not her thing,

01:03:59.989 --> 01:04:02.989
but we're trying to come with the compromise

01:04:02.989 --> 01:04:06.949
there when it comes to that. But no, I like long

01:04:06.949 --> 01:04:09.110
walks in the beach, you know, all of that stuff,

01:04:09.349 --> 01:04:11.650
getting into nature, you know, letting the sun

01:04:11.650 --> 01:04:14.409
hit your face that I love all of that. That's

01:04:14.409 --> 01:04:17.900
me a hundred percent. Really like that. I think

01:04:17.900 --> 01:04:21.840
sometimes in our digital world, which there's

01:04:21.840 --> 01:04:24.619
no I mean you can unravel from it a little bit,

01:04:24.619 --> 01:04:29.039
but it is is what it is and It's a lot of fun

01:04:29.039 --> 01:04:33.300
sometimes, but I think that people like you said

01:04:33.300 --> 01:04:37.760
You can forget that. Oh shoot I probably I could

01:04:37.760 --> 01:04:40.239
probably benefit from just stepping outside feeling

01:04:40.239 --> 01:04:45.079
a nice breeze going for a walk feeling the sunshine

01:04:45.079 --> 01:04:47.659
and just Yeah, I think we get a little lost in

01:04:47.659 --> 01:04:50.519
the technology. It's great. And you can take

01:04:50.519 --> 01:04:53.559
it with you, which is good, too. But yeah, I

01:04:53.559 --> 01:04:55.880
like how you said that because we're busy people.

01:04:56.159 --> 01:04:58.860
Everyone, I think we're all very busy. We're

01:04:58.860 --> 01:05:02.940
inclined to be busier these days. But yeah, make

01:05:02.940 --> 01:05:05.699
sure you get out and enjoy your surroundings.

01:05:05.820 --> 01:05:09.400
Wherever you live, you've got some kind of nature

01:05:09.400 --> 01:05:15.349
trail or park. Okay, last question here. You

01:05:15.349 --> 01:05:17.610
saw my cat earlier. I had to get her out of the

01:05:17.610 --> 01:05:20.789
room. But anyway, do you like animals? Are you

01:05:20.789 --> 01:05:25.150
a dog or cat person? If I had to choose probably

01:05:25.150 --> 01:05:28.329
a dog person, but we don't we don't have any

01:05:28.329 --> 01:05:31.869
Like pets or anything because we just me and

01:05:31.869 --> 01:05:34.989
my wife are we're just too busy right now to

01:05:34.989 --> 01:05:38.829
do it and honestly for me I Told my wife this

01:05:38.829 --> 01:05:41.289
I was like I much rather have like an actual

01:05:41.289 --> 01:05:45.030
kid instead of, you know, actually having a pet

01:05:45.030 --> 01:05:48.730
because you're, you're pretty much is from all

01:05:48.730 --> 01:05:50.670
like, cause we had, you know, pets grown up.

01:05:50.829 --> 01:05:55.630
It's pretty much like taking care of a kid. So

01:05:55.630 --> 01:05:58.250
it's like, I might as well have, you know, instead

01:05:58.250 --> 01:05:59.929
of wasting this time, why don't I say wasting?

01:06:00.250 --> 01:06:02.050
If you're a pet owner, don't, don't kill me.

01:06:02.210 --> 01:06:07.030
Um, but you're not, not wasting time, but it's

01:06:07.030 --> 01:06:09.829
just, you have something that will eventually

01:06:09.829 --> 01:06:12.820
be autonomous. be able to grow and do its own

01:06:12.820 --> 01:06:16.320
thing, but animals will always be dependent on

01:06:16.320 --> 01:06:23.699
you. So for their whole life. Yes. Animals are

01:06:23.699 --> 01:06:29.960
great. I grew up with dogs. I really like dogs,

01:06:29.960 --> 01:06:33.960
but I've had cats for a little stretch now. I

01:06:33.960 --> 01:06:36.260
have a 10 year old cat and a couple of kittens

01:06:36.260 --> 01:06:40.019
that we adopted as well, but It works it works

01:06:40.019 --> 01:06:45.579
for it works for us, but But with with animal

01:06:45.579 --> 01:06:48.139
adoption there's a lot of good opportunities

01:06:48.139 --> 01:06:50.760
there to rescue animals but be sure that you're

01:06:50.760 --> 01:06:53.000
pairing yourself up with the right animal because

01:06:53.000 --> 01:06:56.320
they require a lot of attention and maybe more

01:06:56.320 --> 01:06:58.179
than some people realize that they're willing

01:06:58.179 --> 01:07:01.559
to give and I'm gonna get in trouble for this

01:07:01.559 --> 01:07:04.139
but Travis I would be lying if I said that I

01:07:04.139 --> 01:07:07.260
don't sometimes think about the day where There

01:07:07.260 --> 01:07:13.159
is not any pet hair in my house. White cat hair

01:07:13.159 --> 01:07:16.440
on my navy blue pants. Like I do think about

01:07:16.440 --> 01:07:20.519
that time and I don't want to usher it in. I

01:07:20.519 --> 01:07:26.800
like my animals but. We babysitted a dog one

01:07:26.800 --> 01:07:30.579
time and there was just hair everywhere and it

01:07:30.579 --> 01:07:32.739
was just like a couple of nights and I was like,

01:07:32.840 --> 01:07:35.320
oh my goodness. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know

01:07:35.320 --> 01:07:39.909
if I can do this. Okay, well we're getting way

01:07:39.909 --> 01:07:41.849
off track here, but that's what happens on Dan

01:07:41.849 --> 01:07:49.010
time Folks be sure to follow Travis Dykes he's

01:07:49.010 --> 01:07:54.309
on YouTube at Travis Dykes dykes Instagram at

01:07:54.309 --> 01:07:59.090
T Dykes and Travis Dykes music comm so much to

01:07:59.090 --> 01:08:00.989
dive into I think we covered a lot of it today,

01:08:01.050 --> 01:08:03.690
but I'm telling you I want to pick right back

01:08:03.690 --> 01:08:07.550
up and Uh explore some more of the travis dyke

01:08:07.550 --> 01:08:11.949
story I love it and i'm so glad that i'm so glad

01:08:11.949 --> 01:08:14.409
that trey came on the show so that we could facilitate

01:08:14.409 --> 01:08:17.350
this conversation and man, I hate to pick favorites,

01:08:17.350 --> 01:08:21.350
but trey you're uh You got a lot to live up to

01:08:21.350 --> 01:08:23.430
for your follow -up episode if you're listening

01:08:23.430 --> 01:08:31.189
my friend Oh my gosh Okay travis i'll let you

01:08:31.189 --> 01:08:33.329
have the last word here because otherwise I will

01:08:33.329 --> 01:08:37.420
just uh I'll just end in a garbled mess, and

01:08:37.420 --> 01:08:42.199
how about you send us out here? Oh, man. Well,

01:08:42.199 --> 01:08:45.539
I hope every one of you enjoyed today's conversation.

01:08:46.460 --> 01:08:49.479
And I will say this, this is kind of, is this

01:08:49.479 --> 01:08:52.760
okay to end it like this? The one thing that

01:08:52.760 --> 01:08:55.560
if you could, if I could say something to leave

01:08:55.560 --> 01:08:59.420
with anybody who's listening, is to not let your

01:08:59.420 --> 01:09:04.420
weaknesses, your weaknesses in life be looked

01:09:04.420 --> 01:09:08.079
at as a disadvantage, but looked at as an advantage.

01:09:08.479 --> 01:09:10.739
Because anything that I've done over my life,

01:09:10.960 --> 01:09:12.680
anything I've done on YouTube, anything I've

01:09:12.680 --> 01:09:15.199
done in music, there's always been a financial

01:09:15.199 --> 01:09:18.399
thing. It's been a, oh, I can't, I don't live

01:09:18.399 --> 01:09:20.380
in that location thing. I don't have this. And

01:09:20.380 --> 01:09:23.399
everything has always been looked at as a disadvantage.

01:09:23.939 --> 01:09:26.699
But really, honestly, when you start to look

01:09:26.699 --> 01:09:29.520
at whatever your disadvantages are as advantages,

01:09:30.420 --> 01:09:33.680
That's where you start to change everything in

01:09:33.680 --> 01:09:38.300
your whole scope of life Well said Travis Thank

01:09:38.300 --> 01:09:40.380
you so much for being here and we'll pick right

01:09:40.380 --> 01:09:42.539
back up folks. You never know. We might go back

01:09:42.539 --> 01:09:46.939
to back I haven't done it yet, but We might start

01:09:46.939 --> 01:09:51.720
That's it for this episode and we'll see you

01:09:51.720 --> 01:09:55.300
next Sunday on the Dan time podcast Thank You

01:09:55.300 --> 01:10:02.590
Travis Dyches. Thank you Hey, if you love that

01:10:02.590 --> 01:10:06.430
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01:10:06.430 --> 01:10:09.750
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01:10:09.750 --> 01:10:12.970
be any easier. I would compare it to the self

01:10:12.970 --> 01:10:17.390
checkout at Walmart or at the end of a Microsoft

01:10:17.390 --> 01:10:20.130
Teams call when they ask you about the audio

01:10:20.130 --> 01:10:23.409
quality. Also, tell a friend about the show.

01:10:23.529 --> 01:10:26.930
Tell that guy, Dan, that you work with. Tell

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your Danielle friends and your friend. D 'Angelo

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and your cousin Danny. Everybody's welcome and

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I appreciate you my friend for listening. Thanks

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and have a wonderful week. We'll see you next

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Sunday.