Okay folks, welcome back to the Dan Time Podcast.
I am your host, Dan McArdle. If it's your first
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What an interesting diversion last week from
the usual Dan Time guest, my own younger brother,
Travis. What can I say? If you missed it, well,
you really need to ask yourself, what am I doing
missing an episode? What got in the way? What
was more important than Dan time? Because something
clearly was for you. And anyway, you thought
we were done. You thought, OK, Dan's just doing
something a little different here. Back to business,
back to the Dan's. Nope, not just yet. The theme
continues. And people tell me, hey, I'd love
to come on the show, but... Dan my name is not
Dan Listen the sweet spot as you might say is
me talking other Dan's or what I like to call
the family of Dan names, but Folks with different
names are always welcomed in fact encouraged
Especially if you know me or you just you've
got a Dan or Danielle story along those lines
Because once you land on the show it is your
time Now as I'm already doing I'm working on
this I think I take up a little too much oxygen
on this show. Yes, I'm the host, but I'm doing
some self -improvement trying to hang back a
little more. It's the guest time each week. And
this week it is Trey Williams time. What other
podcast on the planet is having back -to -back
guests with the first five letters of their given
names? Trey. given name Travian is T -R -A -V
-I. The answer is zero, except for this show.
So you're in the right place. The only place
where this phenomenon is happening. Okay. Going
on way too long here. Trey, my friend, my guest
today, United States Marine Corps veteran, UAB
graduate, a former Ramsey Ram, husband, father,
jokester, distinguished gentleman, And Trey,
please do not laugh because I mean this in all
seriousness easily one of the most Handsome guys
on earth. I don't know. I don't know how people
magazine snoozes on this guy year after year
if they only knew Trey Williams the way that
we know him Trey Thank you so much for for carving
out some time in your day for the tan time podcast.
Here you are. It's your time How are you doing,
my friend? I am good, man. First of all, I want
to thank you for that intro. I need to just record
that one excerpt and just carry it around when
people ask me about myself or just play it for
them. Like, this is me. Just listen. I think
that would be a great intro for myself, especially
when I have to go speak to different people.
Absolutely. I'm telling you, people, if you've
seen Trey all dressed up, just seen him in a
nice jacket one time in your life with that gleam
in his eye, you're just going to... fall to pieces.
Male or female, it does not matter. I have no
problem complimenting the fellow gentleman here,
but I miss my white face. She might be getting
jealous. We'll see that now. She's out here.
I really appreciate it, man. Glad you had me
on the show, man. This is my first podcast interview.
I've done some in my past, like on the radio
station and stuff like that, but never done a
podcast before. It was interesting time when
you asked me about coming on the show. It was
me and my wife, we just talked about You know
trying some podcast stuff with some friends and
I told you reach out some music. There you go
You should try it out. You know, maybe this is
a sign. So let's see how it goes I couldn't wait
once you know in the Travis situation took so
long When I finally got him on the show, I thought
You know, let's get let's kind of keep this going.
Um As people who've been listening as you know,
this show was made possible through A variety
of guests so it's it's the songwriters. It's
the athletes. It's The people out left field
and around the world, but you know also have
to tap into the network I think it makes it interesting
here, and I just thought Trey why I haven't thought
about Trey Well, I think about you more than
I than than I should But reached out to you and
luckily you said let's make it happen What's
been going on here lately? Go ahead. Before I
do, I was just thinking about you saying the
play of the same five letters, the T -R -A -V
-I. Actually, my dad's name is Travis, then my
baby brother's name is Travis Jr. I was thinking
if you did, maybe later on I want to continue
with the T -R -A -V -I. My baby brother, he's
a well -known musician in the, I would say Christian
music world. He's got 133 ,000 followers online,
just on his Instagram. He's always traveling
to different countries to play and do different
things. I think he'd be an interesting one if
you wanted to continue this trend, I can reach
out to him. I'm sure he won't have a problem
doing it. Just putting that out there in the
universe. 100%. Travis Williams? I'll show you
his page too. That's Travis Dykes, D -Y -K -E
-S. Wow. I love it. Some of my favorite guests
on the show are people who are creating music.
And if he's up for it, I'm already, you've piqued
my interest. He loves this type of stuff. He's
been doing it for a while. He actually teaches
guitar lessons online, and he does one -on -one.
That's where he makes most of his money. He's
so popular now. It's the first time I've ever
seen a guitar player have people with the big
fat heads in the crowd cheering for him. I was
like, okay. I still see him as my little brother,
but everybody else sees him as some type of guitar
star, so I get it. Now, what is that like when
you got a sibling, and maybe people listening
to this show have... a brother a sister maybe
a cousin and they are just like to other people
they were a huge deal and to you it's like well
that's just my brother how is it when you guys
get together well we get together i think he
tries to show me that he's more mature now but
you know i still treat him like a little brother
so I keep him kind of down to earth. Cause I
know sometimes he goes live and then people are
like, Oh my God, this sounds so good. You know,
I can't believe you let us, you know, watch this
practice and blah, blah, blah. And I thought
something out there from my childhood and you
see him trying not to smile and laugh at it,
but that I just know, you know, that he, we still
have that mind that I can do that with him and
he can, you know, not be so professional all
the time. He can relax. I know he has an image
he probably wants to uphold and I want him to
be himself all the time. So I love it. I love
it. Yeah. How often do you get to hang out with
him now? Not often, you know. You get older,
families get involved, and he travels a lot.
Actually, it's his birthday. He just turned.
He's a lot younger. He's our baby. So he just
turned 30, end of the month last month. And he
came down with his wife, and they came down.
We met at my parents' house. And we just kind
of ate, sat around and chilled and talked. And
I hadn't seen him before that since probably
last year. I probably see him once, maybe twice
a year, just to know what's going on. Man Trey
remember one because I travel up. You remember
when we turn 30 we went from from 29 to 30. Did
you feel old? Um, you know, I don't know he access
my brother access the same thing as X all the
siblings like how did you turn 30? What did you
do? We all had our stories mine was I actually
I actually felt like I was more mature because
I was leaving Alabama for my first time on my
own instead with the military I was leaving to
go follow a job in Vegas. So I went to go live
in Vegas when I turned 30. So my 30th birthday,
I had a little party dinner. And then the next
day I was driving to Vegas and moving my stuff
into my new place, which is the exciting time
of my life. But I did feel like I've accomplished
something in life. So I felt like I was moving
in the right direction as far as my life goes
with concern. So I did feel like I was getting
older. Man, tell me about those years when you
graduate high school. Maybe we'll go back a little
bit to your old playing days as a high school
athlete, but joining the Marine Corps at that
time, what did that do for you and how do you
reflect back on that time? So I will say this,
people always ask me, you know, would you do
it over again? Like go back to the Marine Corps
or would you choose a different service? I would
do it all over again. Even though I hated it
just as much as I loved it, it gave me a base
like for everything I do now. Like I have a structure.
I'm more disciplined with a lot of things, more
organized with a lot of stuff. And I don't know
if that's with every branch. I just know the
Marine Corps is very strict on that stuff. Because
when you're in war, you got to have everything
prepared for everything. So I think the military
has probably changed my whole life. Because I
wasn't going to go at first. I was against it.
And I actually had a scholarship. I won a writing
scholarship to college. And I had a scholarship.
And being out of high school, I went straight
to college. I had a high school and I graduated.
I didn't take summer off or anything. The next
month, I was in college. I was working college
one full time. It was just too much for me. And
then I said, oh, I'm doing the military. This
is an easy way out. But in my mind, I was stuck
on doing the Marine Corps. And I'm glad I was.
For some reason, it was calling to me. So I went.
My parents say to me, for doing it, my mom cried.
My dad kept my birth certificate so I couldn't
leave. But he finally gave it to me. And when
I got out of boot camp, The look of pride on
my parents' face, especially my dad and the respect
they gave me just for completing it. It was like
any other feeling I've ever had. And to that
point, I think that sense of pride and respect
is how I kind of live my life. I want to respect
people the way I want to be respected. And I
got that from going to boot camp and living my
life in the Marine Corps for a little while.
And so anytime I make a decision, I kind of reflect
on little things like If I'm showing somebody
how to do something, I'm like, always pay attention
to details. You know, don't worry about the big
thing. Worry about the small stuff first and
everything comes together. That's kind of an
idea we had in the military too is details matter.
Yeah. When you get around a Marine Corps veteran,
sometimes you don't have to know right away.
There's a presence that this individual gives
off that they've been somewhere. They've experienced
something. They've learned, like you said, about
making good good decisions and the structure
that that branch teaches you and How was it the
adjustment when you were transitioning back to
civilian life? Oh Man transition life. Um, so
they actually have a program where they call
it It's not called transitioning, but they do
have a thing where they transition you back from
military to civilian life what they call it.
It's probably like it's less than a couple of
weeks maybe. They really doesn't do anything
for you, but tell you how to do right resumes
and how to look for jobs and stuff like that.
But the transition back wasn't too bad for me
because when I left, I was working at a hospital
in physical therapy as a PT tech. And when I
came back, because I left as a leave of absence,
they just gave me a position back. So that made
my transition a little bit better. I wasn't really
searching for a job. I had something kind of
waiting for me. They gave me a pay increase based
on me being there. If I had a pay, based on me.
taking leave after they had to pay me for those
years I wasn't there and then I came back as
if I was there the whole time so that helped
out as well but I think the harder part was the
social aspect you know being with people you
know I mean I was in the Marine Corps for four
years some of those guys you go to boot camp
with 13 weeks and you're there with them every
second of your life which I've had friends I
grew up with but some of those guys in the boot
camp we're like best friends to this day and
we don't even see each other but once every five
years or so you know um It's kind of hard kind
of getting back to the social life of like your
friends who didn't go through with you what you
went through with your friends in the military
So sometimes they look at you like why do you
think that why would you say something like that?
That's crazy way of thinking or we don't really
do that type of stuff, you know, just trying
to maneuver my way through what too much information
what's not enough information or You know what
doesn't need to be said. It's kind of a hard
part of transitioning back But once I kind of
figured it out got into my groove and realized
that you know just be yourself people who don't
like it won't be around you people who can stand
it will you know be there so so one of those
things you just kind of put yourself out there
and hope hope it like you and if they don't you
just keep moving i like what you said there because
i've always gotten that impression from you that
hey this is who i am and you seem like comfortable
in your own skin i think that is lacking with
a lot of people and To some extent, it's not
everybody's fault. People go through things.
They've maybe got some insecurity that stems
from their upbringing or they weren't maybe taught
how to handle a string of setbacks. Sometimes
in your life, you can look back to one year,
whether it's like, man, 2019 was really tough
for me. It seems like everything was going wrong.
But some people react in different ways to that.
Do you feel like the Marine Corps taught you
how to handle not just one setback, like, oh,
I just spilled coffee on my shirt, but like eight
different things happen in one day and you just,
do you feel like you handle things differently?
Yeah, I do. Well, I feel like, I guess, I guess
the only person I can compare it to is like my
wife, like something she panics about. I'm like,
well, it's no sense in panicking because you've
got this list of things. Let's just look at this
list. And what can we do about each thing on
this list? Once we figure out a solution to it,
even if it's not immediate, we have a solution.
There's no more reason to stress over it. You
just gotta, you know, realize that you have a
solution that's gonna take time and don't let
that take away from your energy. Cause I'm real
big on trying to preserve your energy. So you
don't want anything to affect your energy. Cause
I feel like if you got a good energy, anything
that's stressful can be not as stressful because
you're protecting your own energy. So I do feel
like, uh, I am more calm and in more stressful
situations that most people I see are, you know,
stressed out about. Yeah, I've never seen you.
There's a level of consistency there with Trey.
Mr. T is I guess you've sometimes been referred
to. I've had a lot of names. Hey, talking about
friends, who are some longtime friends that I
think there's I've heard of the wolf pack. Don't
know if there's like different variations you
got different groups. I probably haven't said
it enough on this show, but for guys, especially
You don't just have to have one pack of friends
like you It's like it's good to have you and
these three or four Guys or girls and then you
and this other group and then you and this other
group It's okay to like be a part of different
groups But who are some people like one or two
or three that maybe you want to shout out to
that's like? Man, I don't know. I just, I have
a different group to hang out with. I was thinking
about, you said like the Wolf Pack when I was
in high school. Friends I still hang out with
occasionally now. We call ourselves The Five.
It was five of us. We kind of all grew up together
or at least a couple of us grew up together and
we all kind of came together in high school.
Our Wolf Pack was called The Five and everybody
knows the different high schools is The Five.
Actually, all of them are pretty successful right
now. All of them either managers or got their
own shop or... or high up in their company. And
we're so busy with our lives, we only hang out
like once or twice a year. But also, I have our
core group that you're missing out on, Dan, because
you're not up here anymore. You know, your brother
Travis, Kevin McCroskey, who was on your show,
Jim Powell as well. And then, who else? I don't
want to forget anybody. Scott. Is Scott one of
them? Yeah. Scott comes around. So we're kind
of busy lately here. I think everybody's got
stuff going on. Kids are getting older. They
get more involved in whatever the extracurriculars
are. And parents get more involved as your, you
know, your kids get older because their sports
become more of their life than just a, you know,
fun activity to do. Also, Josh, I don't know
if you met Josh yet. Josh Hickman, he's one of
our new friends has been added to the group.
He's moved in pretty quickly and he just kind
of fits in there with everybody. I think you'll
love when you meet him. I won't be surprised
if Travis tried to slide him in on the next opening
for the fantasy league. Hey, what about, so this
is me. Hopefully people can relate to this. I'm
a father of three. I talk about it on the show.
And there will be long, long stretches of time
because I moved somewhere. Well, I've been here
10 years now, but I had a group of friends right
before I met Natalie. I've got a professional
network down here, but there are long periods
of time where it I'm just living the home life
and the work life and You get home and it's just
you It's just like you're just a dude dropped
in the middle of a little bit of chaos with the
Trouble for some of this commentary, but what
would you say like how guys can hang in there?
And, you know, you're holding it together. You're
doing it. You're helping with the dishes. You're
keeping the yard straight. You're spending time
with your child, but you're not getting much
time to hang out with your boys. And sometimes
I mean, I think I'm just very conditioned to
it now, but. So so you asked me how to how to
cut out time for your like your social life,
I guess. Yeah. Or just some trade time. Like
I've heard about the man cave. I've never actually
seen it. Oh, yeah Have you not been down there
yet next time you come to town? You have to check
it out. I have to What are the things that you
do when it's like, all right, I got to get away.
I love y 'all my wife my daughter, I understand
you have a stepson and But are there times where
you're like, I need some trade time. I will see
y 'all in a couple hours Or do you even have
to announce it? Sometimes but it's not often
So now, all right, so I will say this. So the
two oldest are in college now. So Grayson, he's
in Alabama. He's a sophomore. And then Lily is
in Montevallo. She's a freshman, I'm sorry. And
then we have Sophia, who's in fourth grade. And
she acts like a teenager. So now it's a lot more
chill. Back then, we had all the activities going
on. And Jean, she's coached the dancing at Hoover
High School. There's just a lot going on. I was
always busy. And sometimes I would just... I
would plan trips with my company because I work
for Monster Energy and we do a lot of events.
And I don't have a goal in the events if I got
people that can work for me, but I volunteered
to put myself on events as my way to get away
from everything and kind of just, you know, have
my own time. That was my trick forward was to,
oh, I got to work this event. You know, it's
a big event. I got to be there. And so you can't
argue with that because it's work. But before
that, I really don't know what I did. I think
I just kind of sucked it up and just stayed up
late at night. you know, I would stay up later
than everybody because everybody in my house
goes to sleep by a certain time like 9 30 everybody's
out this lights out here and I kind of got the
time to myself so that was the time I kind of
wait for that or that's that's what I would do
if I couldn't travel but I usually I just have
to suck it up grit my teeth and bury it that's
what I usually did yeah you know you made it
through I can't believe your daughter Sophia
is 10 I remember when you were talking about
her and she's a toddler I'm sure it feels like
those days have just flown by, but how did you
do during the baby years and the diapers and
the crying and all that stuff? How did you? So
I was in a very, we'll say fortunate, but an
interesting predicament. So I was, I moved back
from Vegas because the recession had hit and
I was unemployed for about a year and I worked
part time with Monster for a full awhile until
I found myself a job. And so I was available
to be at the house and then my wife took maternity
leave. So it wasn't too bad because we're able
to, you know, share the brunt of it. And it wasn't
like I was like, oh, I got to go to work. You
got to watch the baby or send me something to
do. I was always there. So I was kind of, you
know, I guess it was a blessing in disguise.
I didn't see it that way at first because nobody
wants to be laid off and not have, you know,
a source of income for real, a steady source
of income that you can, you know, live off of.
So I didn't see that now. But now that you're
asking this question, I'm reflecting on it. I
do realize that maybe it was a blessing in disguise
that I was able to, you know, just work a little
part time work here and there. And so you spend
a lot of time with my Sophia in her first year,
you know of um Her life on on earth, you know,
so that's how I was able to cope. I had a lot
of free time pretty much Trey, I love that how
you basically you spun a possible negative situation
into a positive And this was a a huge plus for
Sophia You know, that's the biggest thing for
me. I love my children and as much as I hope
I don't complain too much, but You know, I think
I think dads do want to spend more time with
their 18 month old their two -year old their
three -year old you're dropping them off at the
preschool and you're thinking man, I I basically
see these little children in the early mornings
in the evenings and that those busy hours of
the bath and Dinner and stuff and then it's bedtime
and then a little bit of time on the weekends
and so there's like I think You obviously realize
hey, this is what's going on right now I'll make
the most of it and that's really special for
a small child to have a lot of time with their
dad at that age And you guys so you were able
to form that bond What are some things that y
'all like you and Sophia like to do together
and you and your wife Jennifer? places y 'all
like to go I will say so Probably now is the
beach which is funny because when I was growing
up we went to the beach once a year My family
made a dick thing. We stayed at one place together,
bought groceries. We went school shopping and
went to the beach all in one week. That was our
one big trip every year. And I kind of hated
going to the beach because I thought it was pointless
to sit outside in the hot sun and watch the water.
Even when me and Jen first started dating, we
would go to the beach. And I was like, I don't
get it. I want to drink. And I'm sweating out
here and drinking because it's hot. It should
be somewhere cool. But I don't know. Somewhere
along the road, it changed. And now it's our
favorite thing to do. Sophie loves the sand.
We can take her to the beach and she'll play
by herself in the sand hours at a time. And we'll
just sit there and watch her or have some friends
out. So our favorite place to go is to any type
of beach or travel to different theme parks.
We go to University of Orlando the past three
years in a row. Actually, we went to Disney two
years ago for our oldest graduation gift. going
again in the summer. So we like going to theme
parks, but I think beaches, I think, because
every year for my birthday, we get a beach condo
and just spend the whole weekend on the beach
with no work phones, no nothing, just relax and
enjoy the atmosphere. Now, as far as me and Sophie,
anything we do together, we have a good time,
whether it's just driving to the store or she
has horseback rider lessons now. And I enjoy
doing that because she enjoys it. I play trivia
from time to time and stuff like that. And she
likes to come around because I'm having a good
time and she can enjoy it. You know, it's, it's
kind of like, I always say she's my little twin
because whatever she likes to do, I like to do
whatever I like to do. She likes to be a part
of. So, yeah. And then I guess with Jen, she
loves to travel and something Sophie loves to
do, travel and shop. I think she gets that from
her mother because I wasn't really big on traveling.
Maybe a little bit on shopping, but not traveling.
But anything it does with travel. Like, you know,
resorts or timeshare, like Stegs, we have a little
timeshare or theme parks. He's all about it.
Now I had this in my notes also. Is it true that
on Halloween and maybe some other times of the
year, you will get in on the costume, dress up
with your daughter and have a little fun on that
end as well? Oh, yeah. What are some recent characters
that you guys have teamed up as? Let's see. So
my birthday is on Halloween. So I've always loved
Halloween, even as a kid. But as far as our recent,
let me see, what did she do last? Last year she
was, I think she was Wednesday last year. Wednesday,
you know, probably again from the Adams family.
She's a Wednesday TV show. But I can't remember
when I dressed up this last year, year before
that. I know I've been Mr. T. I had a 40th birthday
party, it was a skate party and everybody, you
know, dressed up. I was Mr. T. And then I had
a costume change, because after the party was
over, we went out to trick or treat. I was a
Black Panther. And she was the Black Panther's
sister in the movie. Shuri, I think is her name.
So we dressed up as that together. We've done
superheroes. She's been Wonder Woman like four
or five times. She loves Wonder Woman. I've been
Superman. Another good one, me and her mother
dressed up as Joker in the Harley Quinn. I have
to send you that picture. It's pretty good. I
had makeup on. I dyed my hair green. I had the
full suit on. It's pretty good. Like, I was surprised
myself. I'm trying to think of any other ones
that were pretty, you know, pretty spectacular.
The older I get, the less involved I become because
she, you know, she wants to hang out with her
friends, so I want to outdo her shine. So I have
to, you know, play the father role. Unless we
go to a party, then I'm going to dress up. Usually
I just kind of laid back with a t -shirt on and
you know trait another I guess compliment here
you've You've got a physique that lends itself
to superhero impersonations or I mean man, I
guess I got to ask if you had appreciate that
yeah, if you had a favorite superhero superhero
growing up or somebody that Man, if you could
put that utility belt and that cape on to just
be that that guy who would your superhero? preference
be? Man, so I'm more of a villain guy, so I like
like Darth Maul, the Joker. Joker's always one
of my favorites. And Heath Ledger did the best
show I think I've ever seen. He was probably
the first actor that made me realize the Joker's,
like, realize the character's purpose in the
whole, like, you know, story or show or movie.
His purpose was just to be the antagonist of
Batman. He used to be the the enemy of Batman.
I mean, he didn't care about money. He didn't
care about wealth. He didn't care about fame.
He was just the opposite of Batman and everything
he stood for. And that just made perfect sense
to me for some reason. So ever since that, Heath
Ledger played it. Joker's definitely one of my
top. But to play on that, you always need to
question more people. Or when I interview people,
I'm like, if you had one superpower, what would
be your superpower? What would you have? My superpower
would be I want to have the Force. So I guess
my other hero, I guess would have to be, I want
to say Luke Skywalker, but I like Darth Maul.
Invader ended up being good and bad in the end.
So I don't know. I wish I could be like a Lando
Calrissian with the Force. That would be, that
would be nice if I could make a character like
that. You know, he was a smooth talker, but he
didn't have the Force. Yeah. His Force was a
smooth talking, I guess. So maybe that's what
it is. How about, I don't know if I asked you
this beforehand, but do you have a favorite cartoon
series? As a kid or it's one Man, you liked it
then you like it now Let's say you're a weird
one. I give you one of my weird favorite ones
I've always been in like British stuff even as
a kid like British comedy British cartoon even
now I watch a lot of British shows like Series
on Netflix or hulu or whatever, but there was
one that nobody can remember I do have a picture
of it. It was called banana man It was the guy
in a there's a kid in the British live in the
British town And when he ate a banana, he turned
into a superhero in a blue and yellow suit, and
he would fly to save the day throughout his city.
It's called Banana Man, and I watched it religiously
when I was a kid. That's perfect. I want to look
up that costume now. I think I might have a picture.
I'll send it to you if I can find it. It's awesome.
You know what? Maybe I should dress up as that
this year's Banana Man. It might look to me like
I'm crazy. It's just interesting. I'm actually
allergic to bananas, so it's interesting that
I like that show. Yeah. I've never heard about
that How do you do? I'm a boy in a bubble. Well
now what about other fruits? Are you like oranges
or So I found out recently a few years ago I
went to allergies because my ears kept itching
when I ate certain things and Found out I'm allergic
to anything too acidic like maybe watermelon
cantaloupe honeydew strawberries Okay, I'm getting
depressed. I mean I can eat blueberries I can
smell strawberries a little bit, telling me my
ears itch. I can't eat peanuts. Peanuts make
my throat close. Even though I do try to eat
some peanut butter here and there, try to get
as close to it as I can. I feel like I can eat
my way to the other side, and that's probably
my downfall, because I try to ignore it like
I don't have the allergy. You know, then I end
up suffering with it later. I pair them with
the trees, grass, pet dander. I mean, I got a
list of stuff the allergens gave me, because
they test you for everything. But the one thing
that interested me the most was that I'm not
allergic to cockroaches, which I was, I was like,
how do you test for that? I guess they had a
solution. They put in a vial and they tried it.
I was like, that's an interesting thing to test
for. Allergic to cockroaches is interesting.
Wow. And again, you know, Trey, that really goes,
goes back to your character and how you handle
things and some, somebody with all these things
that they've got to exclude from their diet that
they. Like to enjoy or they see other people
eating. No problem. You just are like, well,
that's the deal I guess and then work around
it Yes, I eat a lot of protein a lot of protein
Mm -hmm. Those are my I'll go to this Let's keep
it on some of the favorite stuff here. This is
always fun. Maybe we'll okay Some serious talk
maybe we won't but uh, alright, so I understand
that you are a lifelong or long enough LA Lakers
fan You're a Giants fan Yeah, I tell me both
both coasts. I have both coasts involved Yeah,
I think I know who your favorite all -time Laker
would probably be but who is it? It is Kobe there
you go Kobe Bryant I've followed him since I
can remember I'm more watching me that the American
out that McDonald's American all -star the college
all -star game We have the all the you know,
the highest recruits that are going to the league
or going to college. And he was one of the ones
that was always straight to the league or watching
him in his game and how he didn't miss one shot.
Like when he shot, even his, his outside shots
and his inside shots, they all were just straight
to the bottom and then nothing hit the backboard
and hit the rim. And he was just phenomenal to
watch, even as, you know, coming out of high
school, I was like, oh, this is going to be the
guy right here. And I followed him through his
whole career. And, uh, no, I'm disappointed by,
you know, how his life ended, but I was That
was some good years of me watching Laker basketball
back then, especially with him and Shaq together.
Those were really exciting. People hated me,
but I loved it. Still live in those moments.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, Kobe was, he wasn't my favorite
player, but watching him play, you just knew
this is the cream of the crop. He's the ultimate
competitor. Gosh, I have so many years there
with the Lakers. Yeah, it was 20, you know, it's
funny cuz a lot of people don't you know, some
people don't consider me as a goat I do I mean,
I know he doesn't have the six championships
He went to seven but I says, you know, you hear
a lot of people talk about his character like
off the court and on the court He was the same,
you know, like his determinations will and everything
he did in life was the exact same It wasn't like
oh he plays hard on the court and he gets home.
He's chillin relax No, he had the same passion
off the court. He did on the court. You know,
he won the Oscar for his short he did He was
one of the original people for body armor. He
came out to still going right now on the top
selling drinks, performance drinks. Just everything
he put his name on, he made sure it was going
to succeed. And I like that type of mentality
where you not only do it for show, but you do
it where people are not looking. Because what
you do in the shadows will come out in the light
eventually. So I really admire that about his
character and everything. I was also, I want
to say I'm also a Laker fan because I was born
in LA. My family's from LA. So I was kind of,
I was born into it. I got pictures of when I
was a kid and my Lakers stuff, people like, oh,
you're just the man, right? No, I was there.
I was there when, when Magic Johnson was playing
back in the day. I was, I was a fan back then,
you know, it was, you know, still good, but I've
been a fan my whole life. I can, you know, it's
like, it's kind of like, you know, if you grow
up in, in Alabama, you got to pick Alabama Auburn.
It was like that in LA. So Clippers or the Lakers?
I guess you could have Golden State too, but
back then it went, one of the best teams. They
had a couple of years with, you know, Tim Hardaway
and Detle Shrump. everybody then, but yeah, I
was like, for instance, I was born through and
through. So you still remember. I know you do.
Um, when you heard the news about Kobe and that
helicopter crash, what was, what was that day
like for you? I, I was in disbelief just as a
sports fan. Oh yeah. No, I, I woke up and I heard
the news and I just didn't believe it. I saw
the a little thing pop up on my phone saying,
you know, Kobe was in a tragic accident. I was
like, what? And so I get up, I go to my living
room, I cut the TV out, and I just watched every
news broadcast, every sports broadcast I could
look at. Look at my phone, reading through social
media, you know, researching this. I wanted to
find something definite that really happened
because it was very vague at first. You know,
the helicopter. Crash it wasn't it was you know
saying was on the plane a helicopter yet And
it was too surreal like it was really happening
so I remember sitting on my couch for probably
five to six hours just watching TV and hoping
you know here Something definite to let me know
you know that this is really happening You know
there was a real thing wasn't just a rumor mill
type things I know you know media goes for any
type of thing they can get ratings off of so
It was a tough day in my life. They realize how
much I knew I was a fan But you know when you
have a something somebody like this you like
so much and look up to pass away Even though
you've never met a manual in person it has an
impact on your life, which is interesting You
grow close to these figures We were talking earlier
about men and as you get older, maybe you have
children If things hit you a little harder Yeah,
I was just wondering cuz I know I was saying
that When I had Sophia, my first biological child,
my only, I guess. When she was born, I started
watching movies in a different way, like Disney
movies that I watched through, laughing at, like
even Lion King, you realize that, you know, his
fatherless pretty much, and then Nemo. It begins
off with his mother and all his siblings dying.
He's the only kid left, you know? I'm like, oh
my God, you know, I started, you know, feeling
these emotions that I never felt before watching
these movies. I even called my wife and asked
her about it. She's like, it's just because you've
had a baby, you've had a kid now, and all these
emotions are stirring in you. And then also I
regret a time, my tattoo artist, I told him about
this, and he told me he had the same thing happen
to him when he had his first kid, that he had
to take, not estrogen, But his estrogen levels
were so high that his doctor made him take testosterone
supplements to level everything back out. That's
how bad his were. Which is crazy. So I just want
to know, you know, if you experienced the same
thing, if it was just a kind of a rare instance
of all dads experience this, you know, after
they have kids. Yeah. And I used to think, well,
maybe it's me not getting enough sleep or getting
sleep interrupted because of the children. But
I think it's a real thing with with dads, with
parents, with mothers. But yeah men who don't
ordinarily find themselves crying in the middle
of movies it happens with me with music and There
will also be times where I'll drop my children
off at preschool and It's like nine days out
of ten or whatever four days out of five I just
go on to work, but then there's sometimes I get
a little sentimental about it I'm like man. I'm
missing their whole day Because I can't hang
out with them. It's like I got to work and You
know your days are so condensed with your children
you want to spend so much more time with them,
but Yeah, things do I get that I was gonna play
off dropping your kids out First time I dropped
Sophia off to get a home daycare this lady miss
Lulu. I love her to death She's like one of the
family members now home daycare. We interviewed
with and loved her But the first day I dropped
Sophia off, I felt like I was being a bad parent.
I dropped her off, and she went to Miss Lulu,
just fine. And when I walked away, she turned
around and looked at me, and she realized that
I wasn't staying with her. And she started crying,
but Miss Lulu shut the door, you know, to kind
of cut that connection off. I had to call my
wife. like almost in tears like I don't know
if I made the right decision like I was freaking
out she was just laughing I was like calm down
please don't turn around and go pick her back
up let her stay give her a couple days it'll
be fine promise you sure enough by the end of
the week she was fine she was going in by herself
she you know she was okay with it just that initial
separation I was like oh my god I did not know
I could feel like this I think in my mind I felt
like I was Not there to protect her in case anything
happened. I feel like I was letting her down
as a dad. I was all over the place, but I do
feel that separation when she first was going
to daycare. So I get that when you drop the kids
off, you kind of not being a part of their day
or not being there for them. It is a real feeling.
It's a real deal when Warren, my oldest, he's
in kindergarten now, but he's the first one to
run through preschool when he was two. And I'll
never forget that first week. I think it was
the first three days out of the week. He did
not want me to leave. He did not like where he
was. And they're looking at you with just tears
streaming down their face, thinking, why can't
you come grab me? What are you doing? What is
this cruel separation that's going on here? And
gosh, man, I remember that first day. I dropped
him off and experienced that went back to my
car and it's like Immediately goes to the job.
I was in my phone was ringing constantly as soon
as it's like almost eight people calling texting
me and it's like I it was a call I had to take
and I'm I'm like I'm almost about to start crying
like like a four -year -old where you almost
hyperventilate, you know, and I'm like shoot.
I got to get it together and I just Whipped myself
in a shape in like ten seconds barely, but all
I'm talking this guy about something work -related
and all I want to do is fall apart and And I'm
driving off and it's like gosh, but then I happen
to go to a new life skill. Yeah But then you
know with Wyatt and then you know Vivian's about
to start at this preschool, so it'll happen again,
but it's it's tough, but it's not like the first
time. Right. Yeah. You kind of know how this,
how this movie, how it plays out, but. Yeah.
Right. It's like learning a new life skill all
of a sudden that you didn't know you was going
to need. Like you got to be able to separate
it. Like you drop them off, you may be feeling
sorry, but you got to, you know, accomplish other
things in the day. Um, but I will tell you this,
the older they get, the easier it becomes. So,
um, yeah, like Sophie, now she goes to horseback
riding lessons. She's like, okay, I'll see you
when I get done. And no fear with the horses.
You know, I mean instead of that back in my head
like what if i'm not there and the horse kicks
are off or something you know but the older they
get the more comfortable they become with you
know well I know I can you know they can handle
themselves enough to if anything happens you
know especially when they get older they can
tell you they can report back if anything goes
wrong too so you feel a bit better about that
and then everything now pretty much is surveillance
almost you got cameras everywhere right you know
everybody wants to make sure they cover all this
so they don't want to be sued lawsuits are pretty
easy nowadays so the world is a lot different
than you know Ten years ago when I was taking
her but I mean for you It'll get better. They
want to get older they get used to it and it
won't be as hard Yeah, you know, I think we were
saying earlier before we got started as dads
you get emotional you have these moments and
stuff But I just realized I don't think that
my children have actually seen me cry. I Right.
I'm fairly certain they've they've never seen
that they probably think it doesn't happen and
when it when it does happen I remember seeing
my dad cry. It took 30 something years or no
there was one time When we lost my grandfather
his dad, I think he cried a little bit But it's
it's uh, yeah when you see your parent Yeah,
I feel like maybe I should show some of that
emotion or be okay with it. But I'm not telling
my kids. I love them. You know, I think that's
a lot I love you. I'm there for you. I'm you
know Um, you know, I'm here to support you but
I don't know if I show him I cried stuff like
that I said that to that point but you know I
just wish I was worried I'll do it. Yeah, the
weird thing is I it's not like I wouldn't be
okay with it because um Other than that I carry
my kids around. I kiss them a lot. I Tell them
I love them. I try to be as tender as I can with
my children I remember carrying Warren around
And we were leaving breakfast somewhere and it
was like the the server that was waiting on us
Was following us out the door opening the door
for us and she was like put that boy down. He's
too big You don't need to be carrying him anymore
If my child wants me to pick him up. This is
the southern thing. Yes. Mm -hmm. But uh, Vivian
is somebody told me you never know what's gonna
be the last time your kid wants you to carry
him. They're like You know, you maybe get tired
of carrying, but there's gonna be a point in
time where you can be like, I wish I could, I
wish I carried him a little longer, you know?
So, I was thinking about that. What about now?
So, Sophie is 10. Are there ever times where
she's like, daddy, pick me up. Daddy, let me
get on your back. All the time. She wants to
get on my back. She wants me to carry her. Especially
if it's in the morning and I have to wake her
up. She wants me to carry her to her room so
she can kind of wake up later. Like, she really
wants me to pick her up, bring her to my bed
so she can lay down for a second. give that extra
five minutes then get up but she still wants
me to carry it and I always think about you know
they say you know enjoy these moments while you
have them so I pick her up as long as I can because
the bigger she gets that you know the heavier
they get it becomes a lot more difficult but
she's a she's a little small for herself she's
not really too heavy for me to carry it right
now but she is putting on a little bit of weight
as she gets older so I just uh I do it even though
sometimes I'm like oh you can get up and walk
you're almost your same height as your mother
but I'll carry you whatever you know so I do
it what sucker for Trey I got I got a few silly
questions here. We may jump back to okay another
favorite sports team or something, but Sometimes
I like to just yeah jump all over the place.
That's good So, you know Jim wear some pretty
colorful t -shirts sometimes I've always been
a big fan of some of the that stuff I gotta ask
do you still do you still have or? wear the milk
I am your father shirt with the cow and the cardinal
milk um no i know it i had it for so long i had
that shirt for over um 15 years it just tore
apart i need to find a new one but i'm a big
graphic tease guy uh i don't understand the picture
but i had a picture of my closet and my my t
-shirts are color -coded one one year i get rid
of 40 shirts in my closet was still full of t
-shirts because i hang them up and i have them
color -coded from white to all the colors in
between all the way down to black it's um It's
pretty impressive, I might say. And there's a
lot of graphic tees, a lot of dress tees, I call
them. They got a little dressier, because they
have like maybe three buttons on them, like a
Henley tee or a V -neck. But I'm a t -shirt guy,
I love graphic tees. I've almost got a t -shirt
for every holiday and every celebration, whether
it's a Fourth of July or a birthday. I've got
a t -shirt for everything. It's about Star Wars
day. I think I want for Thanksgiving. I've got
a couple of Thanksgiving. I'm saying caddies.
I love my gravity. It's a way of expression for
me, you know, without saying much. People see
my tea, it's a conversation starter. So my personality
is like, I like this tea because this is my type
of humor, you know, or this is my type of thinking.
So I think tea has become, I've come a long way
from my childhood where it was just like supporting,
you know, your favorite team or your favorite
TV show. Yeah, they're great. It's a way of branding
yourself. Yeah. I wish t -shirts fit me better.
always had a problem finding the ones like if
I get what I like then I wear it out and it doesn't
last very long right there was a time man I think
it's been close to 10 years ago but you were
down in Pensacola with Monster with Jim and I'm
showing you guys a good time on the town and
we go to Seville quarter if you've never been
to Pensacola yes if those of you listening have
never been to Pensacola I probably haven't put
a plug in since the early episodes but make a
plan to come down here. It's a lot to do, daytime,
nightlife. But here we are, Seville Quarter,
and I think you went a tank. I don't remember
what it was. Yes, I did. I wore a tank top. We're
trying to get in. It might have been like a striped
tank top, yeah. Yeah, and we're standing there.
We're trying to get in, and they wouldn't let
you in without at least a t -shirt. And luckily,
I wasn't parked too far away, and I had... I'm
just one of those guys that especially with the
kids now I always have a few extra shirts and
pairs of shorts for the kids because something's
gonna happen But I used to always drive with
an extra t -shirt. Maybe it's cuz I when I was
single I'd go out to the beach and From like
I'm gonna just get sweaty or this is gonna smell
like the golf or something I'm gonna I just want
something fresh to change into so I had the Such
a long -winded story here, but the live in the
dream T -shirt yes Man, I may have to share a
picture of this on the socials another reason
for you people to subscribe or follow me on Instagram
or X if I've got a picture I'll post it. I don't
know if we do but live in the dream You put it
on and it just fit like a glove. I Remember you
looking to like man. I'm never gonna see the
shirt again. I Feel so bad, but you know, we're
trying to have a good night. So good time. So
I Now I can see you had a connection to a live
in the dream shirt. I felt bad. I still have
it. Right. Cause I returned it. You actually
put it in the mail to me and I got asked, did
it ever make an appearance in Birmingham or have
you got so many shirts? I may have wore it once
or twice. I may have wore it once or twice, but
then I watched it. And I actually, I remember
sending it to you because I put some miniatures
in there with you as a thank you as well. Well,
I remember the minute I don't remember it had
to be some type of whiskey a bourbon managers
I put in there. I can't remember what they were
Yeah, and the shirt it's just a navy blue shirt
and in white letters on the front live in L I
V I N apostrophe the dream and it's a Burger
place in Nashville. I forget the name of it.
I've never actually been there. I saw a guy Wearing
like a red shirt that said live in the dream
I said, where'd you get that and instead of telling
me he said I'm gonna order you one That's how
I got that shirt Have never I never knew that
I never knew that that's where it came from I
thought it was a shirt that you just you know
living the dream is what you tell people How
you doing just living a dream, you know, I thought
it's just a model shirt for you that you you
know You really loved and I didn't know that
so there's a place called living the dream in
Nashville Well, it's I'm gonna try to look it
up while we're talking but yeah the front of
the shirt you kind of assumed it So many people
are not gonna see the back of it. So yeah, you're
right. It is a statement and That's what I was
doing, you know 2014 15 I met Natalie in July
of 16, so Just me in that time period living
the dream was Yeah, there were some challenges
but yeah That's a good time. Yeah some some good
times speaking of bourbon. I Know we're both
now. I've taken a little break From the bottle,
but it wasn't a yeah lifestyle Need I mean not
not any kind of excess problem. I just Right
got sick last year for a couple weeks and just
put it on the shelf a little bit So but anyway,
I got a question here. I hope you appreciate
this Maybe maybe we'll explore it more than just
this question. All right Could you make it through
this pairing? You're at B dubs. Okay, your Buffalo
Wild Wings watching a game. Could you get through?
without a glass of water a basket of 15 blazing
hot wings paired up with a glass of Makers mark
neat Mmm, take it a little beats little swig
of the makers mark. I've never I've never had
their blazing hot wings. I don't know That's
interesting. I've had every wing at Hooters from
the mildest to the hottest and they've never
affected me. It's that bad. They've always been
okay, but blazing hot from... I feel like I need
to try this now. I need to try like a six piece
to see if I can eat them. I don't know. I'm gonna
say no. I don't think I can do it. And with Neat
Daddy on the Rocks? Now, I love my whiskey and
I can drink it straight all day, but that was
something hot, like spicy like that. I don't
know. Have you tried to challenge yourself is
that why you put it up to me or it's just out
of the random thoughts of your head I Wrote it
down because yeah, there was a time where I might
be out watching a game and I would get a bourbon
on the rocks most likely with wings But not the
hottest wings, but probably at least hot maybe
extra hot and probably a glass of water on the
side, but yeah, I had no problem with the bourbon
and the wings. You gotta be a little careful
with it, but... Yeah. I've been doing a lot more
tequilas now, but yeah, I can still do whiskey.
If it's on the rocks, I can maybe manage. I don't
know, 15 is a lot though, man. It's really testing
the limits. I think my brother, my older brother
Rob, can put away, I want to say 20 at one sitting.
Yes, I'm kind of a weakling on as far as the
quantity of wings I can get to But really six
is all I need six and some fries and then I'm
good Yeah, I get them every now and then I used
to eat my lies I even make them a lot but kind
of that down So interesting thing about me. I've
never grown up I didn't like ribs, steak, ranch
dressing. Other type of beef I really liked was
hamburgers. I never got into steak, pork chops,
any of that stuff. Even though my dad can cook
really good, as far as grilling and stuff, I
just never liked it. So recently, I guess in
the past couple years, I finally tried a steak
that I like, and now I've been a steak user.
I've been buying steaks and eating more steaks.
So with that coming into my life, I've kind of
cut back on my wing consumption because I'm exploring
more types of, you know, different types of things
like, you know, the ribeye, cowboy ribeyes, the
flank, the skirt, you know, all different types
of things. I want to try them all to see what
I've been missing out on. So I haven't really
been focusing on chicken as much. I love a T
-bone, ribeye. Yes. Porterhouse. Yeah. Brisket.
Brisket has been one of my new favorites. If
I can find a good brisket, I'm sold. I'm good.
How about this? How about this pairing a? Let
me try this again. All right, how about okay?
They still have is crystal The hamburger places
is still around they've been shutting them down.
How they doing? They have we've got we got one
that I care know of in in Hoover It's been holding
on by three and I think there's one in Tuscaloosa
That's all into I've seen but a lot of them to
close down around the state. So those are the
two I've seen recently. Maybe one in Montgomery.
Alright, let's just say you make a run over to
the Hoover Crystals, get yourself a sackful and
come back home and pour a stout glass of old
granddad. Oh man. That's Scott's favorite. Kentucky
straight bourbon whiskey. Oh yeah. I can do it.
And a sack full. I can do that, yeah. A sack
full. How much is a sack full? Is it 10? Is that
how many it is? 10? 4 sack full? I don't know,
but yeah. Oh yeah. I think it's 12. As usual,
Christmas is the best as late at night. It's
kind of like Waffle House, you know. You eat
Waffle House in the day, it's okay, but at night
it's the best meal you can think about. It hits
all the check marks. It's filling and it's greasy.
I mean, that's all you need. Now, my kids actually,
they like... They like Waffle House. Yeah. Yeah,
my Sophie has a Waffle House t -shirt. She went
there for her birthday last year. And they gave
her a little hat. It's really a fun place for
kids. And the menu is very straightforward. Yes,
you can make a lot of it at the house, but here's
the way I look at it. You can make a waffle at
home, but you're not going to make a waffle that's
going to taste like a Waffle House waffle. Now
the eggs and the toast and the bacon, yeah, but
it's the experience. Did you ever play the jukebox
at a Waffle House? Yes. When they had them. Do
they still have them? I'm not even sure, but
yes, I played them in the past. Anyone know what
I played? I gotta hear it. I played a mix of
stuff. It all depends on the crowd, but I played
a mix of stuff. You know, I had to play some
90s hip -hop somewhere in there. And then I was
throwing some grunge 90s somewhere and then maybe
like an old school song that my, uh, my grandparents
used to listen to. Um, just a nice little mix.
You ever get up to the jukebox and you got the
dollar in your hand or the quarters and you stop
for a second, like you said, and it just kind
of survey. You just look around and say, all
right, let's see. I had, this is what I was thinking.
Maybe we should call an audible and, and just
cause you want to. Want to make everybody happy
what you want to play here what you want to hear
but man There's nothing better than you put that
song in or those three songs You go back and
sit down and you see a head bobbing across the
way, right? It's like they were having an experience
that they would not have had Mm -hmm fighting
cue up that song exactly man. I don't know how
we got to this topic, but How about another one
see here And you just, you cut me off here if
it's getting a little out of hand. Okay. When
was the last time, when was the last time that
you went in, you went for a massive cannonball
or can opener at a friend's pool or a hotel condo
pool? Oh man, a cannonball? Jesus. Um, you just
kind of walk in kind of like, nobody knows it's
coming in. You just make that slow entry into
the pool, but just let it. Let it rip. It's been
a while. Well, you know, anytime I go to a pool,
we just went to a pool a couple of weeks ago.
We're at the beach. I just jumped straight in.
If it's cold or hot, I just get it over with.
I like to jump straight in. I'm trying to think
last time I did a cannonball. Oh, man. Well,
I haven't done it a long time. I haven't thought
about that. Yeah. Yeah. I remember jumping in
the pool to save my brother one time. I was drowning
my baby brother. Wow. That was, I don't think
he even remembers that. he was stubborn and he
was trying to go I told him stay you know by
me in the pool and he went to the deep end so
I had to run around the pool and just dive just
I didn't know how to dive I knew how to swim
so I jumped in I got to him and just swim the
best I could because I was a kid at the time
because he's only 13 years younger than me and
so he had to be like three and I was 16 my parents
left the kids with me to watch them while they
even went to go eat and uh I don't know if my
parents know this story I don't think I even
told them I felt like you know it was my fault
this was going on because I was to be watching
them and I had my sister and uh That's the most
memorable cannonball I think I did is I just
jumped in there. I don't think I dove because
I didn't know how to do it. I just jumped in
the best I could and started swimming. Yeah.
And you saw him go in as it happened? Well, I
saw him going underwater. He couldn't come back
up. I saw him put his hand up because he was
trying to come back up and he couldn't. And that's
when panic mode kicked in, you know, fight or
flight. Yeah. I jumped out from wherever I was
at, put my sister to the side and I just ran
as fast as I could and jumped in the pool. I
don't remember if I dove. I don't remember how
I landed. I just remember Getting them and bringing
them out and I said, all right, it's time to
go back to the hotel room. We're gonna wait till
parents get back home. Let me get back in. It
was a scary day, but I think that's the last
big jump. I mean... Well, thank God you were
there. Yeah. Yeah, there was one time that my
nephew Michael, Travis' son... Oh, yeah. He saved
my son, Warren. This is a story I haven't ever
told publicly, but we're standing there at a
hotel indoor pool. And Natalie and I were having
a conversation with somebody right there, like
right next to where Warren's playing. And we
had just taken his little puddle jumpers off
because we were getting ready to go back up to
the room. And he was chasing a tennis ball back
in, back into the pool. He was probably three
and a half. Yeah. Michael was right there and
saw it and made Warren go straight down. And
he lifted him right back up. And Lauren talked
about he said yeah, I was he said I was sinking
and I said and Michael saved you but I felt really
bad and it goes it does go to show you that man
with kids and bodies of water pools Gotta be
really really careful with the Gulf or the ocean
depending on where you live for vacation It happened
really fast. So yes, put that phone away when
you're near the water and you got kids and make
sure they got their inflatable devices Yeah,
that's pretty cool. Michael did it being the
you know, the big brother of the family of his
siblings. It happened. Save another kid. Yeah,
it was so fast and he had him out of the pool
like nothing happened, but then it just We're
going back up the elevator and everything's fine.
And you're just thinking man. Everything would
not have been fine Right. Yeah Yeah, so I think
it's real I'm glad you brought that up because
here we are Weather's getting warmer. Mm -hmm,
you know fun in the Sun and all that stuff everyone's
just be careful out there if you got little ones
make sure they're being supervised and What I
had a couple other questions. Oh, yeah, so we
didn't even we didn't touch on the New York Giants.
Oh Yeah, our favorite NFL team go big blue. Yes.
That's my favorite NFL team. He backs me all
the time They get they get me like because I
was born in LA. I was raised in Alabama pretty
much for most of my life I didn't have a, you
know, being in the South, like in, you know,
in Alabama, you know how it is. We don't have
any NFL teams. We can't even support a pro team,
a semi -pro team. We got one now that's supported,
but yeah, the Iron, the Barracudas. We've had
a few teams come through here and the support
has just not been good. Even the Stallions? The
Stallions have won the championship two years
in a row. People need to support them. And I
feel bad because they haven't been to a game.
I think I'm kind of burned because every time
I saw sport, I support the iron with the most
of their games and then in middle season, they
just cut it out, you know, and the salient seem
to be here for a while. So I'm going to go to
the games this year. Man, I love the iron. I
was even from afar from Pensacola. I love that
season. I was pretty excited to watch. But so
I became a jazz fan because I have a team, you
know, people either pick the Saints, the Falcons.
Cowboys for some reason Pittsburgh Steelers or
just whatever the popular team was back then
or something close by in like Tennessee Titans
or the Oilers back in the day. I Was a Giants
fan because everybody hung out with in the service
with New Yorkers like I got a lot of New Yorkers
And I think they're really belligerent and straight
to the point and that's how I kind of talk to
people I'm just kind of I'm not really good at
sugarcoating that's how New Yorkers are they
just tell you so I hung out a lot of them and
I embraced that culture of all the Giants fans
that was around me and And I just became a Giants
fan, you know, back when Pax Colbert was there.
And I was in there when Phil Sims was there.
I was a little bit young for when Phil Sims and
they won the Susubos. But I guess in the early
2000s when I really became really interested
in the field, as far as being a team fan of anybody.
I had a lot of players I liked, but as far as
having a team, I didn't until I started hanging
around. People who are from a city that you know
actually grew up with the NFL team and how they
embraced the culture and showed it to me and
I was okay I can get down with this. So I've
been a jazz fan ever since then So I've been
a jazz fan for at least about I guess you can
say 20 24 20 years Wow, you're there for the
early coffin days Ah, yes coffin Tim coffin.
Yes. I'm Tom coffin. Yes. I Missed that that
Tom coffin that that stare often to the the distance,
the scoreboard or the ref. Just that. Oh, I loved
it. He was so locked in and kind of a throwback.
Oh, yeah. And Tiki Barber, I guess, earlier time,
earlier teams. Yeah, Tiki, I remember his last
game, like it was before they didn't really have
a playoff run that year, but. He had one of the
best games in his career, his last couple games
of the season. He had a 220 -yard game. He just
was playing like he was signing another year.
I think he was just showing people that he could
still do it, but he was just tired. He was ready
to retire while he could still enjoy it. That's
what I think he was doing. But that's back when,
what was it, Strahan was still there. Yeah. Strahan
was tired after his Super Bowl. That defense
has always been good in New York. And that's
why I think we kind of keep a good defense, and
our offense has kind of been subpar. We've had
some, you know, some electric players come through,
but isn't there our office has never been like,
you know, like the top office that people like,
oh, they're looking for the office. It's always
been the defense that keeps us through like the
last Super Bowl, the Giants won. I think we was
a wild card. We were wild card. I think we were
nine and eight that season and we managed to
make it through and beat the Patriots. Oh, that's
such a good Super Bowl for me. Oh my God. I remember
watching that Super Bowl. Yes. I was running
laps around the house I was at. because everybody
thought that I was not going to be a good Super
Bowl. And when it happened, when I knew we were
winning, I could not be still. I just ran around.
I couldn't be still. I had to get up and show
my excitement. But yeah, I hold on to those moments
like these seasons we have right now because
it's rough. I feel like a Browns fan. They had
some tough years. We haven't been in the doghouse
like they have for as long as they have. But
it's not a fun, you know. position to be in when
your team's not winning. No, it's not. And I
don't know where they pick in the first round
this year. The draft, I guess, is the end of
this month. Yeah. I do feel like the quarterback
situation wasn't the best idea. Yeah. Danny dimes
all that money for having his best season of
his career. But I was like, you should have,
I don't know. Usually I'm in this for something
else like maybe a better offensive line or you
know Tackle the guard or anything besides this
one dollar one player who subpar so that's my
two cents I agree. How about the Crimson Tide
you've of course following? Oh, yeah Alabama,
yeah I've been a battle fans. I was a kid You
know my oldest he goes to Alabama. He loves it
out there do stuff with muscle We go out there
and support them for different games I've actually
got a contract out there with the standard which
is a piece of place out of New York and They
saw their locations up there and moved down to
Alabama for the great location and They the one
of the owners actually recreated the recipe of
the pizza because of David Portnoy who's uh,
you know the founder of Barstool's the guy who
tries pizza It says one bite and he judges your
pizza off that one bite. He actually came down
for the Texas Alabama game and came into that
restaurant that we had the contract with and
it's a video you can look it up online. The standard
in Alabama is Alabama versus Texas and he took
one bite he gave him like three bites and he
gave like a 7 .3 out of 10 which is good. To
see the excitement of the owner and how many
people were excited to see it happening. The
owner was like shaking almost crying after the
dude left. It was pretty amazing. And I'm glad
I was a Bama fan. Even though we lost, even though
Texas got us, you know, we lost Sarkeesian who
came up through the same program. It was still
a good experience to be a part of. And I probably
wouldn't have been there if I wasn't a Bama fan.
I'd probably been at Auburn or something trying
to do something with them. But yeah, I've been
a Bama fan as long as I can remember. How about,
I may be putting you on the spot here, but do
you have a, since it is Dan time, but it's really,
it's, it's tray time. It is solidly tray time
today, but do you have a favorite athlete? Name
Dan I Like Dan Marley Phoenix Suns, I guess he
was a small forward back then Thunder Dan is
what they call them Dan Marley that to see somebody
shoot threes from that range at that age was
just amazing I mean he like he did it all the
time and made it look so easy and I was like,
oh, this is you know, it's something you don't
see I mean, you know people see dogs those became
popular dog contests and all that But see, I
got to pull up and just shoot threes from, you
know, right after they cross the half court line.
One of my favorite things to watch is that's
when they had, you know, KJ, I think Barkley
came over eventually. So that's central to Ballas
was there. But Thunder Dan was one of my favorite
days because he made perimeter shooting exciting
because he would stay so far behind the line.
And now it's a normal thing. See, you know, all
these guys doing it now. So I like to say he
was one of those founding members of the Long
distance three, you know, he's like he made it
popular made it so you can do it in the game
and you know Make it exciting instead of just
a buzzer beater. You can just do it in the time
of the game people get excited about it You're
right about that. Yeah Thunder Dan Yeah, small
forward Coached a little a little bit of college
basketball after his playing days Actually the
team one of the teams at Alabama in the tournament
went through this year Grand Canyon He was a
former coach of the Grand Canyon and But yeah,
some of those Phoenix Suns teams, man Mm -hmm
great times for the NBA In the Western Conference
one of the most dominant teams gosh remember
that the NBA finals with the Bulls and Suns Mm
-hmm. Yes, I remember I don't remember year,
but do you remember Charles Barker's famous?
into the game interview they were down like oh
maybe like four games no it's like three games
or two or something like that and they had just
one and Barkley was like oh I saw the signs in
Chicago saying we're about to repeat and blah
blah he said he's like he's like God showed me
I'm a dream that we need to take all those signs
down because we're gonna be the champions like
he was talking so much noise I didn't forget
that and uh then they lost yeah they lost oh
man That's I got to go back and watch some of
the stuff. I remember when Did you do this when
the pandemic hit like those first couple months
and nobody knows what's going on? The sports
have all halted. There's no live sports, right?
One of the things I did I'd get on youtube at
night and just watch like old Old playoff games.
I was watching like yeah baseball 1952 world
series black and white stuff. Oh, wow No, no,
I did, you know, since that, you know, sports
wasn't going on, that's when they started playing
those classic Hollywood games more often on different
channels. So I would, if that was on, I would
watch one of those and be like, oh man, I forgot
about this game. You know, it was real nostalgic
more than that. It's like watching an old movie
that you hadn't seen in a while to watch those
highlights happen again and just to see the,
even the crowd, the way the crowd reacts to the
game and you know, how the culture was, how he
dressed back then. And the game that, you know,
older games, there's more raw, I feel like, you
know. It's not so many prima donnas as it is
now. Right. It's kind of all about the sport.
If you got bumped, you just kept playing, you
know. You weren't trying to get the call because
you got bumped. You were trying to get the ball
back and prove that you were better than that
person who just scored on you or whatever. Now,
Trey, did you play a little basketball at Ramsey?
I did. I played basketball at Ramsey. I played
a little bit in the service, too. I played shooting
guard. I played shooting guard. It was cool.
Ramsey was fun. I played under Coach Skaggs,
who was the Nike ambassador coach for Alabama.
So I played a little AAU ball as well in the
summers. But yeah, I played basketball once in
my life. I played a little football not much.
My high school didn't have a football team. I
picked it up a little bit in the service. The
Marine Corps had some intramural leagues I played
on. But yeah, basketball was probably my favorite
sport that I played. It was a fun time. It was
one of those sports. You can talk noise, be yourself,
and people respect that. They respect you, you
know, talking noise to them and still playing
the game respectfully and not just trying to,
you know, dog them out or just talk bad about
them. It's just, you know, that's part of the
game is some people talk when they play, you
know, and you can enjoy that, especially if it's
entertaining to whoever you're playing against.
I've always had compliments about my trash talking
during games. That's one thing I like because
I go out here and just be myself and not have
to hold my, you know, my tongue whenever I play.
So it's one of my favorite sports because of
that. Yeah. There's a playground near the blue
Wahoo stadium down here. It's across the street
and there's a basketball court. There's always
guys playing and man, it's sometimes it sounds
like like a fight's about to break out. Like
you said, it's just, it's all confined within
that game. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. And everybody
is understood, you know, you know, it's just
how you play. It's part of the game, you know.
I can't get carried away sometimes. It can, some
people, you know, it may get a little personal.
But usually it's, you know, it doesn't get much
more than an argument. He'd argument, somebody
quits or somebody leaves or somebody takes their
ball, goes home crying, you know. I mean, but
nobody's getting beat up or shot or anything
crazy like that. It's understood that you talk
and you play the game. It's a form of expression.
Well Trey, I guess I say this a lot on the show
with with my guests, you know when I wish we
could talk for another hour But I gotta tell
you trade with you If my wife would let me get
away with it if Natalie would be okay I just
I'd say hang hang on a second. I'm gonna go grab
something to drink and we keep talking for another
hour I got a couple other quick questions. I
hope okay. I hope we've covered all the important
stuff because this is Man, I got one for you
here Okay. All right. Did you ever follow wrestling?
When I was younger I did and I went to my first
real wrestling match and I got to get right up
next to the stage and I realized how fake it
was and it kind of killed it for me I was I was
trying to nosebleed seats instead of being so
close before I just really believed like oh I'm
gonna see this and such as it's gonna do that
and then I get then I was like That was fake.
He didn't even hit him. I like, you know, I was
like this you know it just looks so much different
you're so close yeah and instead of me falling
in love with the the storylines anymore i was
just like i was hurt by how fake it was i wanted
to be so so hard that you know this is real and
people are doing this you know but i guess you
can't really be that physical with people all
the time and you know but as a kid you you fantasize
that when you see this in real life it's going
to be all that you think it is on tv and it's
Really not when you're that close you see everything
that's happening. You see it when you're so close
to see it at all. So Yeah Yeah, what was your
personal question? Well, I was gonna ask you
Since WrestleMania is this weekend and I don't
follow it very close anymore. I try to watch
the Royal Rumble Once a year, but yeah some of
those moves when they got him down on the mat
and they're in a kicking motion And you're like
me you're not even coming close to that guy's
chest And it's like you see I see you doing the
stomp with the other foot Don't try to fool me
on that but like some of the chops The chops
are definitely real and oh, yeah But I was gonna
ask you know if we did get in the ring me and
you and we were trying to put on a show for the
for the fans the the paying audience and I'm
just there to do a job. Okay, you're the you're
the star you're the you're the heel maybe yeah,
I'm just trying to get you over and What kind
of so you've been knocking me around I've been
taking my bumps the whole match What what kind
of finishing move would you put me in? Would
you go for like a DDT a choke slam? Maybe or
was lesson to do that the f5 would you maybe
spearhead tackle? Good finishing move. I think
anything off the top ropes off the buckle is
a good finishing move Backflips How about when
you've like not me around and I'm kind of like
spinning around light on my on my feet You know
cuz you just been like pounding me and so I'm
like walking in circles and it gives you enough
time to climb up to the top turnbuckle and Jump
off and hit me with both hands both hands or
do a big a frogs frog splash maybe if I could
somehow land into a flip off the ropes and I've
seen where they slide down the person's back
and they flip them over maybe like a suplex hold
pinion a suplex with your shoulders to the ground
and your feet up in the air Yeah, I think that
would be exciting and then I got I got a kick
Like the whole time that they're doing the count
one two three count like i'm gonna get out of
it, but I got no chance Yeah, and I don't think
a lot of people notice about our height difference,
you know, I think you've got me by almost a foot
So as our friend Jim likes to point out, it's
the funniest picture. We've been taking a standing
side by side Then that makes it even a better
picture seeing me hold you up and being up in
the air like that would be pretty entertaining.
Oh, yeah Wow, we'll probably never get that chance
but I Always wonder what it's like hurt something.
I always wonder what it's like for those wrestlers
who are Who are there to basically just take
a beating and make that star look good. Yeah
All right. I want to say I wonder if some of
those wrestlers do it so they told it, you know,
they pay they do they're having a sound light
or They're just making they're there for the
paycheck. They know that they are not the you
know, they're not the main character, but they're
They're there because they like to do it. You
know, some people just like to be a part of something
greater themselves. So I'm sure there's different
different ways you can look at it. Mm -hmm Okay.
Well, how about, and we may have to wrap up here,
but are you at, are you at peace with Nick Saban
and his decision to retire? I think the more
I think about it, I'm good with it. I just want
to, I want to know that he's good with it. And
I'm not convinced yet that he's good with it.
I really, I really felt like this year should
have been a year here retired because they were
so close. Um, I feel like Saban could have stayed
one more year. It kind of announced, you know,
Hey, this is my final year. I don't know maybe
he did it this way so it wouldn't be so much
you know um attention on him you know I think
he did it the way that he felt was best for the
players so you know the whole season wouldn't
be like oh saving your time was you gonna do
this game or are you still you know you know
when you break you announce stuff like that everybody
wants to ask you about it all the time it takes
the attention away from what's really important
and that's the players that's first and foremost
is the players so I think the way he did it was
you know well you know well thought out but I
should have stayed one more year. I'm sorry,
I'm good with it. I'm good. He seems happy. I
know he bought that home out there in Florida
and his wife seems to be happy. You know, when
it comes down to it, you want to make sure that
your family's happy too, especially as a man,
you know. Being a breadwinner, you want to, you
know, if your family's happy, then everything
else should be okay. I feel like this is just
me speculating, but I feel like Miss Terry probably
had a lot of sway in that, maybe. I've heard
those rumors, yeah. Maybe she wanted some Nick
time. Oh, yeah. She started sharing them. Mm
-hmm. I think he's been through a lot of programs,
yeah. At some point, it's like, man, you made
all this money. Mm -hmm. See, I kind of feel
like he's going to get back in somewhere in some
league. I don't really see him coaching in a
spring league. I know Spurrier did that. Yeah.
I thought it was a cool thing for Spurrier. Right.
But I don't know, I don't really think he would
go back to the NFL, but maybe he really is done.
It's hard to say. If a year goes by and he's
still not in coaching, then he's not going to.
But I'd be real curious to see at the year mark
from when he announced. The man has a statue.
I don't know if there's any more accolades you
can really get. I mean, you won these championships.
You're compared as one of the greatest coaches
to do it. You got a statue. I mean people have
named their pets after you, you know, I mean
it's it's uh, I Think you you know, maybe just
want to sit back and enjoy it But if he comes
back, I'm gonna be there, you know, I'm supporting
no matter what he does as long as it's not Auburn,
you know, I'm good. I don't care But uh, yeah,
I just I hope he's happy with this decision.
He doesn't regret it. I Just I feel like he's
gonna recharge the batteries Years gonna go by
and he's gonna be like man. I I feel fresh. I
miss it I'm not I mean, yeah, he's 70 3 you think
71 so yeah, it's not too old Mm -hmm. I think
we just kind of we still look at people like
oh if you're over 70, then you're kind of We
need to like shut you down like you're not capable.
Yeah, I don't know. I mean like 85. Yeah, but
He's in pretty good shape. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Be
interesting to see. Yeah, I was just thinking
about Alabama football. You mentioned, you asked
me about it before. One of my greatest sports
plays that I remember or one of my favorite sports
plays that ever happened, it was Alabama. It
was the 92 championship when they played Miami.
Yes. and George C. walked down, I can't remember
the receiver's name right now, walks him down,
took the ball out of his hands, and ran back
the other way. Of course, they didn't count the
yards because of whatever the penalty was, but
I've never seen anybody walk somebody down, take
the ball from him, and then go back the opposite
way. I was 12 years old when that happened, and
my whole world was just, I couldn't make sense
of it. I was like, did everybody just hit it?
I've never seen somebody, you know, take a ball
from somebody in the game and go back the other
way. And that was just like, OK, I'm about my
fan for life. And I was like, that was my defining
moment is definitely being a Bama fan. I was
rooting for a team and they did some amazing.
And I was like, OK, I'm all in, even at 12 years
old. But that's probably one of my most defining,
one of my favorite memories of sports games.
I got some more, but that one's probably the
first I can remember when I really started to
fall in love with sports, to see big plays and,
you know, started to really fall with a team
that had a following and a culture behind it.
So, yeah, that play. Remember now I had the the
poster on my wall and Had a poster of it. Yeah,
if you look up George T the strip in the background
is the Miami bench and specifically the Miami
cheerleaders and Here's I'll never I just pulled
it back up as we're talking One of the cheerleaders
in the back left shot of the frame It's just
like this. Oh, no, you've got it because he sees
what has just happened Man that was something
else we were We were at that game That's the
only championship game that I think I've attended
in my life on that level. I've never been when
you at that game. Yep. Oh wow Yeah, that's the
only only Bama championship game I've been to
and I don't I've never I've been to some playoff
games for Major League Baseball, but Mm -hmm.
What a moment. I see I see that your leader.
I see it. Just look it up. Yeah, she is not happy
They I mean Miami was pretty confident going
into that game. Oh Yeah, they talked a lot of
noise. They hadn't faced a defense like ours
Mm -hmm. Not even close. Yeah that receiver Lamar
Thomas. He was talking to most noise. He was
one of the biggest talkers. That's why I was
so excited to see that happen to him. Fegan Langham
was chasing him. I remember Langham. It was Antonio
Langham, George Higg, yeah. Oh my god. I'm gonna
have to order this as a poster now, yeah. Trey,
I cannot wait till we can get together and hang
out and... Hell yeah, man. Grill some steaks
and a few, well, actually a few short bunts.
We'll see each other again. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Draft. Our league is the only league that I don't
pay to be I had two other leagues I play in now
and because of y 'all I've started begging into
it the other two leagues I'm in I've won one
back -to -back years and the other one I finished
second place this league I can I just can't get
it. I don't know. I can't figure out my rhythm
Yeah, I don't know maybe because people more
competitive in this they you think money leave
you'd be more competitive I think what people
start losing they kind of lose focus because
they have money involved in that one I go any
money, but in this league it's all about The
prestige the bragging rights. Oh man, and so
people have more more into it than just money,
you know You don't want to be last cuz you everybody
knows each other and you don't want to be the
one next year Everybody talks about so maybe
that's what it is. That's right Do you want your
name etched on that trophy? And you want you
want that trophy in your house on your mantle?
Yes All right. I'm glad I took you up on your
offer. Absolutely. We got to do it again. I've
had Jim back. He's been on the show three times.
Maybe too many times. But keep him on the shelf
for a while. It's just not fair to everybody
else. But definitely let's... You should do a
special edition during the draft and have like
all of us just kind of do a panel. We just all
talk. All right. Well, so since you mentioned
that we I do have some some unreleased footage
Not video but audio. I captured some of the guys
at last year's draft in August. I still have
I've still got the files on my computer. I've
never once listened to them. I haven't tried
never thought about putting them out there, but
Maybe that would be a bonus episode. Yeah That
may be a comment on our own audio. Yeah Something
like that is gonna be not just a bonus for everybody
that's gonna be You got to unlock some doors
to get to it Hmm. Yeah All right. Hey Trey anything
else that you want to plug today? Good time Loved
every minute of it and hope we didn't spend too
much time on the silly stuff. But it's good.
I like it I don't know where those questions
come from but It's good Yes, so we've had We
call it trap time two weeks in a row, but it's
really trade time today But man those where else
are you gonna be listening to a podcast? We're
the last two guests are not both named Travis,
but it's tra di and then You get that far into
the name. This is it. Thanks for being here,
Trey. Thanks for having me. Proud to call you
a friend and have this conversation with you
today was a special thrill. I'm not kidding about
that. Oh, yeah. All right. Well, you guys, everybody
listening in the Daniverse or you've been in
the Daniverse today, it's really the Trey -verse.
No, that's not. I like to say Trey Day sometimes.
Like, Trey Day, Trey Day. It's been Trey Day
today and we don't want this day to end, as you
can see. Alright, Trey and everybody listening,
it's important to, you know, foster a good network
of friends, hang on to people, get to know people.
There's something to be said about years -long
friendships. If you got kids, spend some time
with them, goof around with them. Hope you took
something from this episode and have a great
week. We'll see you next Sunday on the Dan Time
podcast. Thank you, Trey. Thank you, Danimal.
See you soon.