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Okay folks, welcome back to the Dan Time Podcast.

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I am your host, Dan McArdle. If it's your first

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time, you're in for a ride. At Dan Time Pod on

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What an interesting diversion last week from

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the usual Dan Time guest, my own younger brother,

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Travis. What can I say? If you missed it, well,

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you really need to ask yourself, what am I doing

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missing an episode? What got in the way? What

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was more important than Dan time? Because something

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clearly was for you. And anyway, you thought

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we were done. You thought, OK, Dan's just doing

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something a little different here. Back to business,

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back to the Dan's. Nope, not just yet. The theme

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continues. And people tell me, hey, I'd love

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to come on the show, but... Dan my name is not

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Dan Listen the sweet spot as you might say is

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me talking other Dan's or what I like to call

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the family of Dan names, but Folks with different

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names are always welcomed in fact encouraged

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Especially if you know me or you just you've

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got a Dan or Danielle story along those lines

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Because once you land on the show it is your

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time Now as I'm already doing I'm working on

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this I think I take up a little too much oxygen

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on this show. Yes, I'm the host, but I'm doing

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some self -improvement trying to hang back a

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little more. It's the guest time each week. And

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this week it is Trey Williams time. What other

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podcast on the planet is having back -to -back

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guests with the first five letters of their given

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names? Trey. given name Travian is T -R -A -V

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-I. The answer is zero, except for this show.

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So you're in the right place. The only place

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where this phenomenon is happening. Okay. Going

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on way too long here. Trey, my friend, my guest

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today, United States Marine Corps veteran, UAB

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graduate, a former Ramsey Ram, husband, father,

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jokester, distinguished gentleman, And Trey,

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please do not laugh because I mean this in all

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seriousness easily one of the most Handsome guys

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on earth. I don't know. I don't know how people

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magazine snoozes on this guy year after year

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if they only knew Trey Williams the way that

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we know him Trey Thank you so much for for carving

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out some time in your day for the tan time podcast.

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Here you are. It's your time How are you doing,

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my friend? I am good, man. First of all, I want

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to thank you for that intro. I need to just record

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that one excerpt and just carry it around when

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people ask me about myself or just play it for

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them. Like, this is me. Just listen. I think

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that would be a great intro for myself, especially

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when I have to go speak to different people.

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Absolutely. I'm telling you, people, if you've

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seen Trey all dressed up, just seen him in a

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nice jacket one time in your life with that gleam

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in his eye, you're just going to... fall to pieces.

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Male or female, it does not matter. I have no

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problem complimenting the fellow gentleman here,

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but I miss my white face. She might be getting

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jealous. We'll see that now. She's out here.

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I really appreciate it, man. Glad you had me

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on the show, man. This is my first podcast interview.

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I've done some in my past, like on the radio

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station and stuff like that, but never done a

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podcast before. It was interesting time when

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you asked me about coming on the show. It was

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me and my wife, we just talked about You know

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trying some podcast stuff with some friends and

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I told you reach out some music. There you go

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You should try it out. You know, maybe this is

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a sign. So let's see how it goes I couldn't wait

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once you know in the Travis situation took so

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long When I finally got him on the show, I thought

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You know, let's get let's kind of keep this going.

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Um As people who've been listening as you know,

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this show was made possible through A variety

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of guests so it's it's the songwriters. It's

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the athletes. It's The people out left field

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and around the world, but you know also have

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to tap into the network I think it makes it interesting

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here, and I just thought Trey why I haven't thought

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about Trey Well, I think about you more than

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I than than I should But reached out to you and

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luckily you said let's make it happen What's

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been going on here lately? Go ahead. Before I

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do, I was just thinking about you saying the

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play of the same five letters, the T -R -A -V

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-I. Actually, my dad's name is Travis, then my

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baby brother's name is Travis Jr. I was thinking

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if you did, maybe later on I want to continue

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with the T -R -A -V -I. My baby brother, he's

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a well -known musician in the, I would say Christian

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music world. He's got 133 ,000 followers online,

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just on his Instagram. He's always traveling

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to different countries to play and do different

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things. I think he'd be an interesting one if

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you wanted to continue this trend, I can reach

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out to him. I'm sure he won't have a problem

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doing it. Just putting that out there in the

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universe. 100%. Travis Williams? I'll show you

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his page too. That's Travis Dykes, D -Y -K -E

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-S. Wow. I love it. Some of my favorite guests

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on the show are people who are creating music.

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And if he's up for it, I'm already, you've piqued

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my interest. He loves this type of stuff. He's

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been doing it for a while. He actually teaches

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guitar lessons online, and he does one -on -one.

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That's where he makes most of his money. He's

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so popular now. It's the first time I've ever

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seen a guitar player have people with the big

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fat heads in the crowd cheering for him. I was

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like, okay. I still see him as my little brother,

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but everybody else sees him as some type of guitar

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star, so I get it. Now, what is that like when

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you got a sibling, and maybe people listening

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to this show have... a brother a sister maybe

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a cousin and they are just like to other people

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they were a huge deal and to you it's like well

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that's just my brother how is it when you guys

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get together well we get together i think he

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tries to show me that he's more mature now but

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you know i still treat him like a little brother

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so I keep him kind of down to earth. Cause I

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know sometimes he goes live and then people are

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like, Oh my God, this sounds so good. You know,

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I can't believe you let us, you know, watch this

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practice and blah, blah, blah. And I thought

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something out there from my childhood and you

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see him trying not to smile and laugh at it,

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but that I just know, you know, that he, we still

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have that mind that I can do that with him and

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he can, you know, not be so professional all

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the time. He can relax. I know he has an image

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he probably wants to uphold and I want him to

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be himself all the time. So I love it. I love

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it. Yeah. How often do you get to hang out with

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him now? Not often, you know. You get older,

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families get involved, and he travels a lot.

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Actually, it's his birthday. He just turned.

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He's a lot younger. He's our baby. So he just

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turned 30, end of the month last month. And he

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came down with his wife, and they came down.

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We met at my parents' house. And we just kind

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of ate, sat around and chilled and talked. And

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I hadn't seen him before that since probably

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last year. I probably see him once, maybe twice

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a year, just to know what's going on. Man Trey

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remember one because I travel up. You remember

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when we turn 30 we went from from 29 to 30. Did

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you feel old? Um, you know, I don't know he access

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my brother access the same thing as X all the

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siblings like how did you turn 30? What did you

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do? We all had our stories mine was I actually

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I actually felt like I was more mature because

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I was leaving Alabama for my first time on my

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own instead with the military I was leaving to

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go follow a job in Vegas. So I went to go live

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in Vegas when I turned 30. So my 30th birthday,

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I had a little party dinner. And then the next

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day I was driving to Vegas and moving my stuff

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into my new place, which is the exciting time

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of my life. But I did feel like I've accomplished

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something in life. So I felt like I was moving

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in the right direction as far as my life goes

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with concern. So I did feel like I was getting

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older. Man, tell me about those years when you

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graduate high school. Maybe we'll go back a little

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bit to your old playing days as a high school

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athlete, but joining the Marine Corps at that

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time, what did that do for you and how do you

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reflect back on that time? So I will say this,

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people always ask me, you know, would you do

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it over again? Like go back to the Marine Corps

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or would you choose a different service? I would

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do it all over again. Even though I hated it

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just as much as I loved it, it gave me a base

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like for everything I do now. Like I have a structure.

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I'm more disciplined with a lot of things, more

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organized with a lot of stuff. And I don't know

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if that's with every branch. I just know the

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Marine Corps is very strict on that stuff. Because

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when you're in war, you got to have everything

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prepared for everything. So I think the military

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has probably changed my whole life. Because I

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wasn't going to go at first. I was against it.

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And I actually had a scholarship. I won a writing

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scholarship to college. And I had a scholarship.

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And being out of high school, I went straight

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to college. I had a high school and I graduated.

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I didn't take summer off or anything. The next

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month, I was in college. I was working college

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one full time. It was just too much for me. And

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then I said, oh, I'm doing the military. This

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is an easy way out. But in my mind, I was stuck

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on doing the Marine Corps. And I'm glad I was.

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For some reason, it was calling to me. So I went.

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My parents say to me, for doing it, my mom cried.

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My dad kept my birth certificate so I couldn't

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leave. But he finally gave it to me. And when

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I got out of boot camp, The look of pride on

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my parents' face, especially my dad and the respect

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they gave me just for completing it. It was like

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any other feeling I've ever had. And to that

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point, I think that sense of pride and respect

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is how I kind of live my life. I want to respect

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people the way I want to be respected. And I

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got that from going to boot camp and living my

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life in the Marine Corps for a little while.

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And so anytime I make a decision, I kind of reflect

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on little things like If I'm showing somebody

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how to do something, I'm like, always pay attention

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to details. You know, don't worry about the big

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thing. Worry about the small stuff first and

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everything comes together. That's kind of an

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idea we had in the military too is details matter.

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Yeah. When you get around a Marine Corps veteran,

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sometimes you don't have to know right away.

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There's a presence that this individual gives

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off that they've been somewhere. They've experienced

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something. They've learned, like you said, about

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making good good decisions and the structure

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that that branch teaches you and How was it the

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adjustment when you were transitioning back to

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civilian life? Oh Man transition life. Um, so

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they actually have a program where they call

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it It's not called transitioning, but they do

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have a thing where they transition you back from

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military to civilian life what they call it.

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It's probably like it's less than a couple of

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weeks maybe. They really doesn't do anything

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for you, but tell you how to do right resumes

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and how to look for jobs and stuff like that.

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But the transition back wasn't too bad for me

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because when I left, I was working at a hospital

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in physical therapy as a PT tech. And when I

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came back, because I left as a leave of absence,

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they just gave me a position back. So that made

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my transition a little bit better. I wasn't really

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searching for a job. I had something kind of

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waiting for me. They gave me a pay increase based

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on me being there. If I had a pay, based on me.

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taking leave after they had to pay me for those

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years I wasn't there and then I came back as

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if I was there the whole time so that helped

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out as well but I think the harder part was the

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social aspect you know being with people you

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know I mean I was in the Marine Corps for four

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years some of those guys you go to boot camp

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with 13 weeks and you're there with them every

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second of your life which I've had friends I

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grew up with but some of those guys in the boot

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camp we're like best friends to this day and

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we don't even see each other but once every five

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years or so you know um It's kind of hard kind

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of getting back to the social life of like your

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friends who didn't go through with you what you

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went through with your friends in the military

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So sometimes they look at you like why do you

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think that why would you say something like that?

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That's crazy way of thinking or we don't really

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do that type of stuff, you know, just trying

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to maneuver my way through what too much information

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what's not enough information or You know what

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doesn't need to be said. It's kind of a hard

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part of transitioning back But once I kind of

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figured it out got into my groove and realized

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that you know just be yourself people who don't

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like it won't be around you people who can stand

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it will you know be there so so one of those

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things you just kind of put yourself out there

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and hope hope it like you and if they don't you

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just keep moving i like what you said there because

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i've always gotten that impression from you that

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hey this is who i am and you seem like comfortable

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in your own skin i think that is lacking with

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a lot of people and To some extent, it's not

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everybody's fault. People go through things.

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They've maybe got some insecurity that stems

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from their upbringing or they weren't maybe taught

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how to handle a string of setbacks. Sometimes

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in your life, you can look back to one year,

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whether it's like, man, 2019 was really tough

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for me. It seems like everything was going wrong.

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But some people react in different ways to that.

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Do you feel like the Marine Corps taught you

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how to handle not just one setback, like, oh,

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I just spilled coffee on my shirt, but like eight

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different things happen in one day and you just,

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do you feel like you handle things differently?

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Yeah, I do. Well, I feel like, I guess, I guess

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the only person I can compare it to is like my

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wife, like something she panics about. I'm like,

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well, it's no sense in panicking because you've

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got this list of things. Let's just look at this

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list. And what can we do about each thing on

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this list? Once we figure out a solution to it,

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even if it's not immediate, we have a solution.

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There's no more reason to stress over it. You

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just gotta, you know, realize that you have a

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solution that's gonna take time and don't let

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that take away from your energy. Cause I'm real

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big on trying to preserve your energy. So you

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don't want anything to affect your energy. Cause

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I feel like if you got a good energy, anything

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that's stressful can be not as stressful because

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you're protecting your own energy. So I do feel

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like, uh, I am more calm and in more stressful

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situations that most people I see are, you know,

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stressed out about. Yeah, I've never seen you.

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There's a level of consistency there with Trey.

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Mr. T is I guess you've sometimes been referred

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to. I've had a lot of names. Hey, talking about

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friends, who are some longtime friends that I

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think there's I've heard of the wolf pack. Don't

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know if there's like different variations you

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got different groups. I probably haven't said

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it enough on this show, but for guys, especially

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You don't just have to have one pack of friends

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like you It's like it's good to have you and

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these three or four Guys or girls and then you

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and this other group and then you and this other

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group It's okay to like be a part of different

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groups But who are some people like one or two

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or three that maybe you want to shout out to

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that's like? Man, I don't know. I just, I have

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a different group to hang out with. I was thinking

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about, you said like the Wolf Pack when I was

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in high school. Friends I still hang out with

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occasionally now. We call ourselves The Five.

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It was five of us. We kind of all grew up together

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or at least a couple of us grew up together and

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we all kind of came together in high school.

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Our Wolf Pack was called The Five and everybody

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knows the different high schools is The Five.

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Actually, all of them are pretty successful right

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now. All of them either managers or got their

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own shop or... or high up in their company. And

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we're so busy with our lives, we only hang out

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like once or twice a year. But also, I have our

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core group that you're missing out on, Dan, because

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you're not up here anymore. You know, your brother

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Travis, Kevin McCroskey, who was on your show,

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Jim Powell as well. And then, who else? I don't

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want to forget anybody. Scott. Is Scott one of

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them? Yeah. Scott comes around. So we're kind

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of busy lately here. I think everybody's got

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stuff going on. Kids are getting older. They

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get more involved in whatever the extracurriculars

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are. And parents get more involved as your, you

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know, your kids get older because their sports

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become more of their life than just a, you know,

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fun activity to do. Also, Josh, I don't know

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if you met Josh yet. Josh Hickman, he's one of

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our new friends has been added to the group.

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He's moved in pretty quickly and he just kind

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of fits in there with everybody. I think you'll

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love when you meet him. I won't be surprised

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if Travis tried to slide him in on the next opening

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for the fantasy league. Hey, what about, so this

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is me. Hopefully people can relate to this. I'm

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a father of three. I talk about it on the show.

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And there will be long, long stretches of time

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because I moved somewhere. Well, I've been here

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10 years now, but I had a group of friends right

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before I met Natalie. I've got a professional

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network down here, but there are long periods

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of time where it I'm just living the home life

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and the work life and You get home and it's just

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you It's just like you're just a dude dropped

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in the middle of a little bit of chaos with the

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Trouble for some of this commentary, but what

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would you say like how guys can hang in there?

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And, you know, you're holding it together. You're

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doing it. You're helping with the dishes. You're

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keeping the yard straight. You're spending time

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with your child, but you're not getting much

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time to hang out with your boys. And sometimes

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I mean, I think I'm just very conditioned to

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it now, but. So so you asked me how to how to

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cut out time for your like your social life,

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I guess. Yeah. Or just some trade time. Like

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I've heard about the man cave. I've never actually

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seen it. Oh, yeah Have you not been down there

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yet next time you come to town? You have to check

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it out. I have to What are the things that you

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do when it's like, all right, I got to get away.

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I love y 'all my wife my daughter, I understand

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you have a stepson and But are there times where

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you're like, I need some trade time. I will see

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y 'all in a couple hours Or do you even have

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to announce it? Sometimes but it's not often

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So now, all right, so I will say this. So the

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two oldest are in college now. So Grayson, he's

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in Alabama. He's a sophomore. And then Lily is

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in Montevallo. She's a freshman, I'm sorry. And

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then we have Sophia, who's in fourth grade. And

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she acts like a teenager. So now it's a lot more

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chill. Back then, we had all the activities going

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on. And Jean, she's coached the dancing at Hoover

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High School. There's just a lot going on. I was

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always busy. And sometimes I would just... I

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would plan trips with my company because I work

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for Monster Energy and we do a lot of events.

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And I don't have a goal in the events if I got

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people that can work for me, but I volunteered

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to put myself on events as my way to get away

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from everything and kind of just, you know, have

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my own time. That was my trick forward was to,

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oh, I got to work this event. You know, it's

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a big event. I got to be there. And so you can't

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argue with that because it's work. But before

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that, I really don't know what I did. I think

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I just kind of sucked it up and just stayed up

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late at night. you know, I would stay up later

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than everybody because everybody in my house

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goes to sleep by a certain time like 9 30 everybody's

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out this lights out here and I kind of got the

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time to myself so that was the time I kind of

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wait for that or that's that's what I would do

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if I couldn't travel but I usually I just have

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to suck it up grit my teeth and bury it that's

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what I usually did yeah you know you made it

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through I can't believe your daughter Sophia

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is 10 I remember when you were talking about

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her and she's a toddler I'm sure it feels like

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those days have just flown by, but how did you

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do during the baby years and the diapers and

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the crying and all that stuff? How did you? So

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I was in a very, we'll say fortunate, but an

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interesting predicament. So I was, I moved back

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from Vegas because the recession had hit and

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I was unemployed for about a year and I worked

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part time with Monster for a full awhile until

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I found myself a job. And so I was available

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to be at the house and then my wife took maternity

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leave. So it wasn't too bad because we're able

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to, you know, share the brunt of it. And it wasn't

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like I was like, oh, I got to go to work. You

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got to watch the baby or send me something to

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do. I was always there. So I was kind of, you

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know, I guess it was a blessing in disguise.

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I didn't see it that way at first because nobody

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wants to be laid off and not have, you know,

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a source of income for real, a steady source

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of income that you can, you know, live off of.

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So I didn't see that now. But now that you're

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asking this question, I'm reflecting on it. I

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do realize that maybe it was a blessing in disguise

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that I was able to, you know, just work a little

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part time work here and there. And so you spend

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a lot of time with my Sophia in her first year,

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you know of um Her life on on earth, you know,

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so that's how I was able to cope. I had a lot

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of free time pretty much Trey, I love that how

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you basically you spun a possible negative situation

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into a positive And this was a a huge plus for

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Sophia You know, that's the biggest thing for

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me. I love my children and as much as I hope

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I don't complain too much, but You know, I think

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I think dads do want to spend more time with

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their 18 month old their two -year old their

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three -year old you're dropping them off at the

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preschool and you're thinking man, I I basically

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see these little children in the early mornings

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in the evenings and that those busy hours of

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the bath and Dinner and stuff and then it's bedtime

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and then a little bit of time on the weekends

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and so there's like I think You obviously realize

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hey, this is what's going on right now I'll make

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the most of it and that's really special for

00:22:05.099 --> 00:22:08.319
a small child to have a lot of time with their

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dad at that age And you guys so you were able

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to form that bond What are some things that y

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'all like you and Sophia like to do together

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and you and your wife Jennifer? places y 'all

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like to go I will say so Probably now is the

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beach which is funny because when I was growing

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up we went to the beach once a year My family

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made a dick thing. We stayed at one place together,

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bought groceries. We went school shopping and

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went to the beach all in one week. That was our

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one big trip every year. And I kind of hated

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going to the beach because I thought it was pointless

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to sit outside in the hot sun and watch the water.

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Even when me and Jen first started dating, we

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would go to the beach. And I was like, I don't

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get it. I want to drink. And I'm sweating out

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here and drinking because it's hot. It should

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be somewhere cool. But I don't know. Somewhere

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along the road, it changed. And now it's our

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favorite thing to do. Sophie loves the sand.

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We can take her to the beach and she'll play

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by herself in the sand hours at a time. And we'll

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just sit there and watch her or have some friends

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out. So our favorite place to go is to any type

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of beach or travel to different theme parks.

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We go to University of Orlando the past three

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years in a row. Actually, we went to Disney two

00:23:17.460 --> 00:23:20.680
years ago for our oldest graduation gift. going

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again in the summer. So we like going to theme

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parks, but I think beaches, I think, because

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every year for my birthday, we get a beach condo

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and just spend the whole weekend on the beach

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with no work phones, no nothing, just relax and

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enjoy the atmosphere. Now, as far as me and Sophie,

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anything we do together, we have a good time,

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whether it's just driving to the store or she

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has horseback rider lessons now. And I enjoy

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doing that because she enjoys it. I play trivia

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from time to time and stuff like that. And she

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likes to come around because I'm having a good

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time and she can enjoy it. You know, it's, it's

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kind of like, I always say she's my little twin

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because whatever she likes to do, I like to do

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whatever I like to do. She likes to be a part

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of. So, yeah. And then I guess with Jen, she

00:24:02.809 --> 00:24:04.890
loves to travel and something Sophie loves to

00:24:04.890 --> 00:24:06.809
do, travel and shop. I think she gets that from

00:24:06.809 --> 00:24:09.210
her mother because I wasn't really big on traveling.

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Maybe a little bit on shopping, but not traveling.

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But anything it does with travel. Like, you know,

00:24:13.329 --> 00:24:16.230
resorts or timeshare, like Stegs, we have a little

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timeshare or theme parks. He's all about it.

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Now I had this in my notes also. Is it true that

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on Halloween and maybe some other times of the

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year, you will get in on the costume, dress up

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with your daughter and have a little fun on that

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end as well? Oh, yeah. What are some recent characters

00:24:35.750 --> 00:24:41.640
that you guys have teamed up as? Let's see. So

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my birthday is on Halloween. So I've always loved

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Halloween, even as a kid. But as far as our recent,

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let me see, what did she do last? Last year she

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was, I think she was Wednesday last year. Wednesday,

00:24:52.940 --> 00:24:55.059
you know, probably again from the Adams family.

00:24:55.980 --> 00:24:59.779
She's a Wednesday TV show. But I can't remember

00:24:59.779 --> 00:25:01.299
when I dressed up this last year, year before

00:25:01.299 --> 00:25:04.420
that. I know I've been Mr. T. I had a 40th birthday

00:25:04.420 --> 00:25:05.799
party, it was a skate party and everybody, you

00:25:05.799 --> 00:25:08.970
know, dressed up. I was Mr. T. And then I had

00:25:08.970 --> 00:25:10.529
a costume change, because after the party was

00:25:10.529 --> 00:25:12.329
over, we went out to trick or treat. I was a

00:25:12.329 --> 00:25:15.150
Black Panther. And she was the Black Panther's

00:25:15.150 --> 00:25:17.549
sister in the movie. Shuri, I think is her name.

00:25:18.410 --> 00:25:20.390
So we dressed up as that together. We've done

00:25:20.390 --> 00:25:22.289
superheroes. She's been Wonder Woman like four

00:25:22.289 --> 00:25:24.329
or five times. She loves Wonder Woman. I've been

00:25:24.329 --> 00:25:28.940
Superman. Another good one, me and her mother

00:25:28.940 --> 00:25:30.859
dressed up as Joker in the Harley Quinn. I have

00:25:30.859 --> 00:25:32.759
to send you that picture. It's pretty good. I

00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:35.640
had makeup on. I dyed my hair green. I had the

00:25:35.640 --> 00:25:39.359
full suit on. It's pretty good. Like, I was surprised

00:25:39.359 --> 00:25:41.980
myself. I'm trying to think of any other ones

00:25:41.980 --> 00:25:43.900
that were pretty, you know, pretty spectacular.

00:25:44.660 --> 00:25:46.980
The older I get, the less involved I become because

00:25:46.980 --> 00:25:48.279
she, you know, she wants to hang out with her

00:25:48.279 --> 00:25:50.640
friends, so I want to outdo her shine. So I have

00:25:50.640 --> 00:25:52.339
to, you know, play the father role. Unless we

00:25:52.339 --> 00:25:55.099
go to a party, then I'm going to dress up. Usually

00:25:55.099 --> 00:25:57.680
I just kind of laid back with a t -shirt on and

00:25:57.680 --> 00:26:00.039
you know trait another I guess compliment here

00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:03.680
you've You've got a physique that lends itself

00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:08.319
to superhero impersonations or I mean man, I

00:26:08.319 --> 00:26:10.900
guess I got to ask if you had appreciate that

00:26:10.900 --> 00:26:14.759
yeah, if you had a favorite superhero superhero

00:26:14.759 --> 00:26:18.019
growing up or somebody that Man, if you could

00:26:18.019 --> 00:26:20.599
put that utility belt and that cape on to just

00:26:20.599 --> 00:26:24.329
be that that guy who would your superhero? preference

00:26:24.329 --> 00:26:29.210
be? Man, so I'm more of a villain guy, so I like

00:26:29.210 --> 00:26:32.390
like Darth Maul, the Joker. Joker's always one

00:26:32.390 --> 00:26:34.769
of my favorites. And Heath Ledger did the best

00:26:34.769 --> 00:26:37.490
show I think I've ever seen. He was probably

00:26:37.490 --> 00:26:40.930
the first actor that made me realize the Joker's,

00:26:41.029 --> 00:26:43.349
like, realize the character's purpose in the

00:26:43.349 --> 00:26:45.410
whole, like, you know, story or show or movie.

00:26:46.109 --> 00:26:48.369
His purpose was just to be the antagonist of

00:26:48.369 --> 00:26:51.359
Batman. He used to be the the enemy of Batman.

00:26:51.559 --> 00:26:54.539
I mean, he didn't care about money. He didn't

00:26:54.539 --> 00:26:56.539
care about wealth. He didn't care about fame.

00:26:57.200 --> 00:26:59.220
He was just the opposite of Batman and everything

00:26:59.220 --> 00:27:01.160
he stood for. And that just made perfect sense

00:27:01.160 --> 00:27:03.279
to me for some reason. So ever since that, Heath

00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:05.240
Ledger played it. Joker's definitely one of my

00:27:05.240 --> 00:27:07.519
top. But to play on that, you always need to

00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:08.940
question more people. Or when I interview people,

00:27:09.039 --> 00:27:11.700
I'm like, if you had one superpower, what would

00:27:11.700 --> 00:27:14.319
be your superpower? What would you have? My superpower

00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:16.660
would be I want to have the Force. So I guess

00:27:16.660 --> 00:27:20.740
my other hero, I guess would have to be, I want

00:27:20.740 --> 00:27:23.000
to say Luke Skywalker, but I like Darth Maul.

00:27:23.880 --> 00:27:25.839
Invader ended up being good and bad in the end.

00:27:26.779 --> 00:27:28.759
So I don't know. I wish I could be like a Lando

00:27:28.759 --> 00:27:30.700
Calrissian with the Force. That would be, that

00:27:30.700 --> 00:27:32.099
would be nice if I could make a character like

00:27:32.099 --> 00:27:34.420
that. You know, he was a smooth talker, but he

00:27:34.420 --> 00:27:36.759
didn't have the Force. Yeah. His Force was a

00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:38.799
smooth talking, I guess. So maybe that's what

00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:41.279
it is. How about, I don't know if I asked you

00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:44.539
this beforehand, but do you have a favorite cartoon

00:27:44.539 --> 00:27:49.460
series? As a kid or it's one Man, you liked it

00:27:49.460 --> 00:27:51.980
then you like it now Let's say you're a weird

00:27:51.980 --> 00:27:54.180
one. I give you one of my weird favorite ones

00:27:54.180 --> 00:27:57.099
I've always been in like British stuff even as

00:27:57.099 --> 00:27:59.099
a kid like British comedy British cartoon even

00:27:59.099 --> 00:28:01.619
now I watch a lot of British shows like Series

00:28:01.619 --> 00:28:04.019
on Netflix or hulu or whatever, but there was

00:28:04.019 --> 00:28:06.339
one that nobody can remember I do have a picture

00:28:06.339 --> 00:28:09.400
of it. It was called banana man It was the guy

00:28:09.400 --> 00:28:11.720
in a there's a kid in the British live in the

00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:13.480
British town And when he ate a banana, he turned

00:28:13.480 --> 00:28:16.240
into a superhero in a blue and yellow suit, and

00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:18.359
he would fly to save the day throughout his city.

00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:20.859
It's called Banana Man, and I watched it religiously

00:28:20.859 --> 00:28:26.000
when I was a kid. That's perfect. I want to look

00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:28.839
up that costume now. I think I might have a picture.

00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:31.799
I'll send it to you if I can find it. It's awesome.

00:28:32.140 --> 00:28:33.779
You know what? Maybe I should dress up as that

00:28:33.779 --> 00:28:35.339
this year's Banana Man. It might look to me like

00:28:35.339 --> 00:28:38.720
I'm crazy. It's just interesting. I'm actually

00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:41.880
allergic to bananas, so it's interesting that

00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:45.240
I like that show. Yeah. I've never heard about

00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:49.279
that How do you do? I'm a boy in a bubble. Well

00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:51.480
now what about other fruits? Are you like oranges

00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:56.000
or So I found out recently a few years ago I

00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:57.660
went to allergies because my ears kept itching

00:28:57.660 --> 00:29:00.920
when I ate certain things and Found out I'm allergic

00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:03.980
to anything too acidic like maybe watermelon

00:29:03.980 --> 00:29:08.740
cantaloupe honeydew strawberries Okay, I'm getting

00:29:08.740 --> 00:29:13.349
depressed. I mean I can eat blueberries I can

00:29:13.349 --> 00:29:14.910
smell strawberries a little bit, telling me my

00:29:14.910 --> 00:29:17.230
ears itch. I can't eat peanuts. Peanuts make

00:29:17.230 --> 00:29:19.710
my throat close. Even though I do try to eat

00:29:19.710 --> 00:29:20.869
some peanut butter here and there, try to get

00:29:20.869 --> 00:29:22.390
as close to it as I can. I feel like I can eat

00:29:22.390 --> 00:29:23.890
my way to the other side, and that's probably

00:29:23.890 --> 00:29:27.650
my downfall, because I try to ignore it like

00:29:27.650 --> 00:29:29.730
I don't have the allergy. You know, then I end

00:29:29.730 --> 00:29:31.670
up suffering with it later. I pair them with

00:29:31.670 --> 00:29:36.450
the trees, grass, pet dander. I mean, I got a

00:29:36.450 --> 00:29:38.450
list of stuff the allergens gave me, because

00:29:38.450 --> 00:29:40.549
they test you for everything. But the one thing

00:29:40.549 --> 00:29:42.859
that interested me the most was that I'm not

00:29:42.859 --> 00:29:45.519
allergic to cockroaches, which I was, I was like,

00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:47.180
how do you test for that? I guess they had a

00:29:47.180 --> 00:29:50.599
solution. They put in a vial and they tried it.

00:29:50.599 --> 00:29:52.200
I was like, that's an interesting thing to test

00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:55.079
for. Allergic to cockroaches is interesting.

00:29:55.880 --> 00:29:59.640
Wow. And again, you know, Trey, that really goes,

00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:02.299
goes back to your character and how you handle

00:30:02.299 --> 00:30:05.259
things and some, somebody with all these things

00:30:05.259 --> 00:30:08.420
that they've got to exclude from their diet that

00:30:08.420 --> 00:30:10.880
they. Like to enjoy or they see other people

00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:13.359
eating. No problem. You just are like, well,

00:30:13.539 --> 00:30:15.700
that's the deal I guess and then work around

00:30:15.700 --> 00:30:18.960
it Yes, I eat a lot of protein a lot of protein

00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:23.119
Mm -hmm. Those are my I'll go to this Let's keep

00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:25.140
it on some of the favorite stuff here. This is

00:30:25.140 --> 00:30:28.740
always fun. Maybe we'll okay Some serious talk

00:30:28.740 --> 00:30:31.599
maybe we won't but uh, alright, so I understand

00:30:31.599 --> 00:30:35.980
that you are a lifelong or long enough LA Lakers

00:30:35.980 --> 00:30:42.420
fan You're a Giants fan Yeah, I tell me both

00:30:42.420 --> 00:30:44.279
both coasts. I have both coasts involved Yeah,

00:30:44.619 --> 00:30:46.920
I think I know who your favorite all -time Laker

00:30:46.920 --> 00:30:53.579
would probably be but who is it? It is Kobe there

00:30:53.579 --> 00:30:57.059
you go Kobe Bryant I've followed him since I

00:30:57.059 --> 00:30:59.799
can remember I'm more watching me that the American

00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:01.960
out that McDonald's American all -star the college

00:31:01.960 --> 00:31:03.680
all -star game We have the all the you know,

00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:06.150
the highest recruits that are going to the league

00:31:06.150 --> 00:31:07.970
or going to college. And he was one of the ones

00:31:07.970 --> 00:31:09.710
that was always straight to the league or watching

00:31:09.710 --> 00:31:12.470
him in his game and how he didn't miss one shot.

00:31:12.549 --> 00:31:15.609
Like when he shot, even his, his outside shots

00:31:15.609 --> 00:31:18.049
and his inside shots, they all were just straight

00:31:18.049 --> 00:31:19.470
to the bottom and then nothing hit the backboard

00:31:19.470 --> 00:31:21.650
and hit the rim. And he was just phenomenal to

00:31:21.650 --> 00:31:23.109
watch, even as, you know, coming out of high

00:31:23.109 --> 00:31:24.930
school, I was like, oh, this is going to be the

00:31:24.930 --> 00:31:27.009
guy right here. And I followed him through his

00:31:27.009 --> 00:31:30.210
whole career. And, uh, no, I'm disappointed by,

00:31:30.230 --> 00:31:32.980
you know, how his life ended, but I was That

00:31:32.980 --> 00:31:34.819
was some good years of me watching Laker basketball

00:31:34.819 --> 00:31:36.440
back then, especially with him and Shaq together.

00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:39.099
Those were really exciting. People hated me,

00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:41.759
but I loved it. Still live in those moments.

00:31:42.619 --> 00:31:46.640
Oh, yeah. Yeah, Kobe was, he wasn't my favorite

00:31:46.640 --> 00:31:49.700
player, but watching him play, you just knew

00:31:49.700 --> 00:31:53.740
this is the cream of the crop. He's the ultimate

00:31:53.740 --> 00:31:56.220
competitor. Gosh, I have so many years there

00:31:56.220 --> 00:32:00.509
with the Lakers. Yeah, it was 20, you know, it's

00:32:00.509 --> 00:32:01.690
funny cuz a lot of people don't you know, some

00:32:01.690 --> 00:32:04.049
people don't consider me as a goat I do I mean,

00:32:04.309 --> 00:32:05.450
I know he doesn't have the six championships

00:32:05.450 --> 00:32:08.250
He went to seven but I says, you know, you hear

00:32:08.250 --> 00:32:10.710
a lot of people talk about his character like

00:32:10.710 --> 00:32:13.109
off the court and on the court He was the same,

00:32:13.230 --> 00:32:15.910
you know, like his determinations will and everything

00:32:15.910 --> 00:32:18.190
he did in life was the exact same It wasn't like

00:32:18.190 --> 00:32:19.690
oh he plays hard on the court and he gets home.

00:32:19.690 --> 00:32:21.970
He's chillin relax No, he had the same passion

00:32:21.970 --> 00:32:23.390
off the court. He did on the court. You know,

00:32:23.470 --> 00:32:27.660
he won the Oscar for his short he did He was

00:32:27.660 --> 00:32:29.200
one of the original people for body armor. He

00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:30.819
came out to still going right now on the top

00:32:30.819 --> 00:32:34.660
selling drinks, performance drinks. Just everything

00:32:34.660 --> 00:32:37.559
he put his name on, he made sure it was going

00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:40.640
to succeed. And I like that type of mentality

00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:43.019
where you not only do it for show, but you do

00:32:43.019 --> 00:32:44.440
it where people are not looking. Because what

00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:46.900
you do in the shadows will come out in the light

00:32:46.900 --> 00:32:50.140
eventually. So I really admire that about his

00:32:50.140 --> 00:32:52.759
character and everything. I was also, I want

00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:55.099
to say I'm also a Laker fan because I was born

00:32:55.099 --> 00:32:57.640
in LA. My family's from LA. So I was kind of,

00:32:57.660 --> 00:32:59.480
I was born into it. I got pictures of when I

00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:01.039
was a kid and my Lakers stuff, people like, oh,

00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:02.539
you're just the man, right? No, I was there.

00:33:02.900 --> 00:33:05.059
I was there when, when Magic Johnson was playing

00:33:05.059 --> 00:33:06.779
back in the day. I was, I was a fan back then,

00:33:06.819 --> 00:33:09.200
you know, it was, you know, still good, but I've

00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:11.200
been a fan my whole life. I can, you know, it's

00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:12.859
like, it's kind of like, you know, if you grow

00:33:12.859 --> 00:33:15.099
up in, in Alabama, you got to pick Alabama Auburn.

00:33:15.180 --> 00:33:18.240
It was like that in LA. So Clippers or the Lakers?

00:33:18.500 --> 00:33:19.900
I guess you could have Golden State too, but

00:33:19.900 --> 00:33:22.660
back then it went, one of the best teams. They

00:33:22.660 --> 00:33:24.240
had a couple of years with, you know, Tim Hardaway

00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:27.950
and Detle Shrump. everybody then, but yeah, I

00:33:27.950 --> 00:33:30.289
was like, for instance, I was born through and

00:33:30.289 --> 00:33:34.170
through. So you still remember. I know you do.

00:33:34.410 --> 00:33:37.970
Um, when you heard the news about Kobe and that

00:33:37.970 --> 00:33:40.569
helicopter crash, what was, what was that day

00:33:40.569 --> 00:33:43.950
like for you? I, I was in disbelief just as a

00:33:43.950 --> 00:33:49.130
sports fan. Oh yeah. No, I, I woke up and I heard

00:33:49.130 --> 00:33:50.809
the news and I just didn't believe it. I saw

00:33:50.809 --> 00:33:53.690
the a little thing pop up on my phone saying,

00:33:53.750 --> 00:33:56.190
you know, Kobe was in a tragic accident. I was

00:33:56.190 --> 00:33:59.549
like, what? And so I get up, I go to my living

00:33:59.549 --> 00:34:02.430
room, I cut the TV out, and I just watched every

00:34:02.430 --> 00:34:05.829
news broadcast, every sports broadcast I could

00:34:05.829 --> 00:34:08.469
look at. Look at my phone, reading through social

00:34:08.469 --> 00:34:11.469
media, you know, researching this. I wanted to

00:34:11.469 --> 00:34:15.750
find something definite that really happened

00:34:15.750 --> 00:34:17.190
because it was very vague at first. You know,

00:34:17.269 --> 00:34:20.119
the helicopter. Crash it wasn't it was you know

00:34:20.119 --> 00:34:22.340
saying was on the plane a helicopter yet And

00:34:22.340 --> 00:34:24.460
it was too surreal like it was really happening

00:34:24.460 --> 00:34:27.199
so I remember sitting on my couch for probably

00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:31.380
five to six hours just watching TV and hoping

00:34:31.380 --> 00:34:34.360
you know here Something definite to let me know

00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:36.679
you know that this is really happening You know

00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:39.320
there was a real thing wasn't just a rumor mill

00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:41.980
type things I know you know media goes for any

00:34:41.980 --> 00:34:43.659
type of thing they can get ratings off of so

00:34:44.179 --> 00:34:46.360
It was a tough day in my life. They realize how

00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:48.260
much I knew I was a fan But you know when you

00:34:48.260 --> 00:34:50.219
have a something somebody like this you like

00:34:50.219 --> 00:34:52.380
so much and look up to pass away Even though

00:34:52.380 --> 00:34:54.780
you've never met a manual in person it has an

00:34:54.780 --> 00:34:57.719
impact on your life, which is interesting You

00:34:57.719 --> 00:35:00.980
grow close to these figures We were talking earlier

00:35:00.980 --> 00:35:03.400
about men and as you get older, maybe you have

00:35:03.400 --> 00:35:07.380
children If things hit you a little harder Yeah,

00:35:07.380 --> 00:35:09.360
I was just wondering cuz I know I was saying

00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:12.349
that When I had Sophia, my first biological child,

00:35:12.949 --> 00:35:16.110
my only, I guess. When she was born, I started

00:35:16.110 --> 00:35:18.050
watching movies in a different way, like Disney

00:35:18.050 --> 00:35:20.650
movies that I watched through, laughing at, like

00:35:20.650 --> 00:35:23.650
even Lion King, you realize that, you know, his

00:35:23.650 --> 00:35:27.909
fatherless pretty much, and then Nemo. It begins

00:35:27.909 --> 00:35:29.630
off with his mother and all his siblings dying.

00:35:29.710 --> 00:35:31.570
He's the only kid left, you know? I'm like, oh

00:35:31.570 --> 00:35:33.309
my God, you know, I started, you know, feeling

00:35:33.309 --> 00:35:35.010
these emotions that I never felt before watching

00:35:35.010 --> 00:35:37.050
these movies. I even called my wife and asked

00:35:37.050 --> 00:35:38.909
her about it. She's like, it's just because you've

00:35:38.909 --> 00:35:41.349
had a baby, you've had a kid now, and all these

00:35:41.349 --> 00:35:44.030
emotions are stirring in you. And then also I

00:35:44.030 --> 00:35:46.510
regret a time, my tattoo artist, I told him about

00:35:46.510 --> 00:35:48.789
this, and he told me he had the same thing happen

00:35:48.789 --> 00:35:50.949
to him when he had his first kid, that he had

00:35:50.949 --> 00:35:54.190
to take, not estrogen, But his estrogen levels

00:35:54.190 --> 00:35:56.849
were so high that his doctor made him take testosterone

00:35:56.849 --> 00:35:59.630
supplements to level everything back out. That's

00:35:59.630 --> 00:36:02.269
how bad his were. Which is crazy. So I just want

00:36:02.269 --> 00:36:04.429
to know, you know, if you experienced the same

00:36:04.429 --> 00:36:06.570
thing, if it was just a kind of a rare instance

00:36:06.570 --> 00:36:08.929
of all dads experience this, you know, after

00:36:08.929 --> 00:36:12.170
they have kids. Yeah. And I used to think, well,

00:36:12.190 --> 00:36:16.070
maybe it's me not getting enough sleep or getting

00:36:16.070 --> 00:36:18.389
sleep interrupted because of the children. But

00:36:18.389 --> 00:36:21.429
I think it's a real thing with with dads, with

00:36:21.429 --> 00:36:24.599
parents, with mothers. But yeah men who don't

00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:27.139
ordinarily find themselves crying in the middle

00:36:27.139 --> 00:36:33.219
of movies it happens with me with music and There

00:36:33.219 --> 00:36:35.440
will also be times where I'll drop my children

00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:41.260
off at preschool and It's like nine days out

00:36:41.260 --> 00:36:43.940
of ten or whatever four days out of five I just

00:36:43.940 --> 00:36:45.739
go on to work, but then there's sometimes I get

00:36:45.739 --> 00:36:49.000
a little sentimental about it I'm like man. I'm

00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:53.300
missing their whole day Because I can't hang

00:36:53.300 --> 00:36:57.360
out with them. It's like I got to work and You

00:36:57.360 --> 00:36:59.860
know your days are so condensed with your children

00:36:59.860 --> 00:37:01.480
you want to spend so much more time with them,

00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:05.880
but Yeah, things do I get that I was gonna play

00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:08.239
off dropping your kids out First time I dropped

00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:11.059
Sophia off to get a home daycare this lady miss

00:37:11.059 --> 00:37:12.840
Lulu. I love her to death She's like one of the

00:37:12.840 --> 00:37:15.559
family members now home daycare. We interviewed

00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:17.869
with and loved her But the first day I dropped

00:37:17.869 --> 00:37:20.590
Sophia off, I felt like I was being a bad parent.

00:37:21.289 --> 00:37:23.889
I dropped her off, and she went to Miss Lulu,

00:37:24.210 --> 00:37:26.809
just fine. And when I walked away, she turned

00:37:26.809 --> 00:37:28.849
around and looked at me, and she realized that

00:37:28.849 --> 00:37:30.750
I wasn't staying with her. And she started crying,

00:37:30.849 --> 00:37:32.150
but Miss Lulu shut the door, you know, to kind

00:37:32.150 --> 00:37:34.590
of cut that connection off. I had to call my

00:37:34.590 --> 00:37:37.809
wife. like almost in tears like I don't know

00:37:37.809 --> 00:37:39.309
if I made the right decision like I was freaking

00:37:39.309 --> 00:37:41.550
out she was just laughing I was like calm down

00:37:41.550 --> 00:37:43.449
please don't turn around and go pick her back

00:37:43.449 --> 00:37:45.929
up let her stay give her a couple days it'll

00:37:45.929 --> 00:37:48.769
be fine promise you sure enough by the end of

00:37:48.769 --> 00:37:50.829
the week she was fine she was going in by herself

00:37:50.829 --> 00:37:53.289
she you know she was okay with it just that initial

00:37:53.289 --> 00:37:56.530
separation I was like oh my god I did not know

00:37:56.530 --> 00:37:58.829
I could feel like this I think in my mind I felt

00:37:58.829 --> 00:38:02.000
like I was Not there to protect her in case anything

00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:03.340
happened. I feel like I was letting her down

00:38:03.340 --> 00:38:07.820
as a dad. I was all over the place, but I do

00:38:07.820 --> 00:38:10.739
feel that separation when she first was going

00:38:10.739 --> 00:38:12.940
to daycare. So I get that when you drop the kids

00:38:12.940 --> 00:38:14.460
off, you kind of not being a part of their day

00:38:14.460 --> 00:38:18.059
or not being there for them. It is a real feeling.

00:38:18.079 --> 00:38:21.460
It's a real deal when Warren, my oldest, he's

00:38:21.460 --> 00:38:24.659
in kindergarten now, but he's the first one to

00:38:24.659 --> 00:38:27.599
run through preschool when he was two. And I'll

00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:29.820
never forget that first week. I think it was

00:38:29.820 --> 00:38:32.579
the first three days out of the week. He did

00:38:32.579 --> 00:38:35.440
not want me to leave. He did not like where he

00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:38.880
was. And they're looking at you with just tears

00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:42.840
streaming down their face, thinking, why can't

00:38:42.840 --> 00:38:46.059
you come grab me? What are you doing? What is

00:38:46.059 --> 00:38:50.320
this cruel separation that's going on here? And

00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:55.269
gosh, man, I remember that first day. I dropped

00:38:55.269 --> 00:38:57.570
him off and experienced that went back to my

00:38:57.570 --> 00:39:00.550
car and it's like Immediately goes to the job.

00:39:00.550 --> 00:39:03.050
I was in my phone was ringing constantly as soon

00:39:03.050 --> 00:39:06.269
as it's like almost eight people calling texting

00:39:06.269 --> 00:39:10.050
me and it's like I it was a call I had to take

00:39:10.050 --> 00:39:13.750
and I'm I'm like I'm almost about to start crying

00:39:13.750 --> 00:39:15.849
like like a four -year -old where you almost

00:39:15.849 --> 00:39:19.730
hyperventilate, you know, and I'm like shoot.

00:39:19.730 --> 00:39:23.739
I got to get it together and I just Whipped myself

00:39:23.739 --> 00:39:27.699
in a shape in like ten seconds barely, but all

00:39:27.699 --> 00:39:30.980
I'm talking this guy about something work -related

00:39:30.980 --> 00:39:34.880
and all I want to do is fall apart and And I'm

00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:38.840
driving off and it's like gosh, but then I happen

00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:42.800
to go to a new life skill. Yeah But then you

00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:44.980
know with Wyatt and then you know Vivian's about

00:39:44.980 --> 00:39:48.119
to start at this preschool, so it'll happen again,

00:39:48.139 --> 00:39:50.980
but it's it's tough, but it's not like the first

00:39:50.980 --> 00:39:54.019
time. Right. Yeah. You kind of know how this,

00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:57.980
how this movie, how it plays out, but. Yeah.

00:39:58.059 --> 00:39:59.800
Right. It's like learning a new life skill all

00:39:59.800 --> 00:40:01.000
of a sudden that you didn't know you was going

00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:03.199
to need. Like you got to be able to separate

00:40:03.199 --> 00:40:04.800
it. Like you drop them off, you may be feeling

00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:06.519
sorry, but you got to, you know, accomplish other

00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:09.000
things in the day. Um, but I will tell you this,

00:40:09.099 --> 00:40:11.840
the older they get, the easier it becomes. So,

00:40:11.860 --> 00:40:14.340
um, yeah, like Sophie, now she goes to horseback

00:40:14.340 --> 00:40:16.019
riding lessons. She's like, okay, I'll see you

00:40:16.019 --> 00:40:18.239
when I get done. And no fear with the horses.

00:40:18.420 --> 00:40:20.250
You know, I mean instead of that back in my head

00:40:20.250 --> 00:40:21.809
like what if i'm not there and the horse kicks

00:40:21.809 --> 00:40:24.650
are off or something you know but the older they

00:40:24.650 --> 00:40:26.230
get the more comfortable they become with you

00:40:26.230 --> 00:40:28.469
know well I know I can you know they can handle

00:40:28.469 --> 00:40:31.030
themselves enough to if anything happens you

00:40:31.030 --> 00:40:32.389
know especially when they get older they can

00:40:32.389 --> 00:40:34.570
tell you they can report back if anything goes

00:40:34.570 --> 00:40:36.150
wrong too so you feel a bit better about that

00:40:36.150 --> 00:40:38.789
and then everything now pretty much is surveillance

00:40:38.789 --> 00:40:41.690
almost you got cameras everywhere right you know

00:40:41.690 --> 00:40:43.590
everybody wants to make sure they cover all this

00:40:43.590 --> 00:40:45.269
so they don't want to be sued lawsuits are pretty

00:40:45.269 --> 00:40:47.690
easy nowadays so the world is a lot different

00:40:47.690 --> 00:40:50.489
than you know Ten years ago when I was taking

00:40:50.489 --> 00:40:54.429
her but I mean for you It'll get better. They

00:40:54.429 --> 00:40:56.590
want to get older they get used to it and it

00:40:56.590 --> 00:41:00.210
won't be as hard Yeah, you know, I think we were

00:41:00.210 --> 00:41:03.190
saying earlier before we got started as dads

00:41:03.190 --> 00:41:05.210
you get emotional you have these moments and

00:41:05.210 --> 00:41:07.409
stuff But I just realized I don't think that

00:41:07.409 --> 00:41:10.789
my children have actually seen me cry. I Right.

00:41:10.789 --> 00:41:13.090
I'm fairly certain they've they've never seen

00:41:13.090 --> 00:41:15.010
that they probably think it doesn't happen and

00:41:15.010 --> 00:41:18.380
when it when it does happen I remember seeing

00:41:18.380 --> 00:41:22.739
my dad cry. It took 30 something years or no

00:41:22.739 --> 00:41:25.719
there was one time When we lost my grandfather

00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:30.179
his dad, I think he cried a little bit But it's

00:41:30.179 --> 00:41:33.860
it's uh, yeah when you see your parent Yeah,

00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:36.260
I feel like maybe I should show some of that

00:41:36.260 --> 00:41:40.159
emotion or be okay with it. But I'm not telling

00:41:40.159 --> 00:41:41.719
my kids. I love them. You know, I think that's

00:41:41.719 --> 00:41:46.139
a lot I love you. I'm there for you. I'm you

00:41:46.139 --> 00:41:48.349
know Um, you know, I'm here to support you but

00:41:48.349 --> 00:41:50.769
I don't know if I show him I cried stuff like

00:41:50.769 --> 00:41:53.489
that I said that to that point but you know I

00:41:53.489 --> 00:41:55.869
just wish I was worried I'll do it. Yeah, the

00:41:55.869 --> 00:41:57.929
weird thing is I it's not like I wouldn't be

00:41:57.929 --> 00:42:02.329
okay with it because um Other than that I carry

00:42:02.329 --> 00:42:05.869
my kids around. I kiss them a lot. I Tell them

00:42:05.869 --> 00:42:09.650
I love them. I try to be as tender as I can with

00:42:09.650 --> 00:42:12.630
my children I remember carrying Warren around

00:42:13.639 --> 00:42:16.000
And we were leaving breakfast somewhere and it

00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:18.900
was like the the server that was waiting on us

00:42:18.900 --> 00:42:21.280
Was following us out the door opening the door

00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:23.300
for us and she was like put that boy down. He's

00:42:23.300 --> 00:42:26.880
too big You don't need to be carrying him anymore

00:42:26.880 --> 00:42:29.159
If my child wants me to pick him up. This is

00:42:29.159 --> 00:42:34.699
the southern thing. Yes. Mm -hmm. But uh, Vivian

00:42:34.699 --> 00:42:36.300
is somebody told me you never know what's gonna

00:42:36.300 --> 00:42:37.900
be the last time your kid wants you to carry

00:42:37.900 --> 00:42:39.940
him. They're like You know, you maybe get tired

00:42:39.940 --> 00:42:41.260
of carrying, but there's gonna be a point in

00:42:41.260 --> 00:42:42.360
time where you can be like, I wish I could, I

00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:43.940
wish I carried him a little longer, you know?

00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:47.400
So, I was thinking about that. What about now?

00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:51.019
So, Sophie is 10. Are there ever times where

00:42:51.019 --> 00:42:53.179
she's like, daddy, pick me up. Daddy, let me

00:42:53.179 --> 00:42:56.440
get on your back. All the time. She wants to

00:42:56.440 --> 00:42:57.900
get on my back. She wants me to carry her. Especially

00:42:57.900 --> 00:42:59.420
if it's in the morning and I have to wake her

00:42:59.420 --> 00:43:01.599
up. She wants me to carry her to her room so

00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:05.119
she can kind of wake up later. Like, she really

00:43:05.119 --> 00:43:06.360
wants me to pick her up, bring her to my bed

00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:08.579
so she can lay down for a second. give that extra

00:43:08.579 --> 00:43:10.920
five minutes then get up but she still wants

00:43:10.920 --> 00:43:12.619
me to carry it and I always think about you know

00:43:12.619 --> 00:43:15.260
they say you know enjoy these moments while you

00:43:15.260 --> 00:43:17.860
have them so I pick her up as long as I can because

00:43:17.860 --> 00:43:19.280
the bigger she gets that you know the heavier

00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:21.400
they get it becomes a lot more difficult but

00:43:21.400 --> 00:43:23.820
she's a she's a little small for herself she's

00:43:23.820 --> 00:43:25.480
not really too heavy for me to carry it right

00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:27.420
now but she is putting on a little bit of weight

00:43:27.420 --> 00:43:31.539
as she gets older so I just uh I do it even though

00:43:31.539 --> 00:43:33.119
sometimes I'm like oh you can get up and walk

00:43:33.119 --> 00:43:34.480
you're almost your same height as your mother

00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:37.909
but I'll carry you whatever you know so I do

00:43:37.909 --> 00:43:42.929
it what sucker for Trey I got I got a few silly

00:43:42.929 --> 00:43:45.530
questions here. We may jump back to okay another

00:43:45.530 --> 00:43:48.070
favorite sports team or something, but Sometimes

00:43:48.070 --> 00:43:50.650
I like to just yeah jump all over the place.

00:43:50.730 --> 00:43:54.710
That's good So, you know Jim wear some pretty

00:43:54.710 --> 00:43:56.550
colorful t -shirts sometimes I've always been

00:43:56.550 --> 00:43:59.789
a big fan of some of the that stuff I gotta ask

00:43:59.789 --> 00:44:05.110
do you still do you still have or? wear the milk

00:44:05.110 --> 00:44:10.239
I am your father shirt with the cow and the cardinal

00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:13.900
milk um no i know it i had it for so long i had

00:44:13.900 --> 00:44:17.039
that shirt for over um 15 years it just tore

00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:19.539
apart i need to find a new one but i'm a big

00:44:19.539 --> 00:44:22.639
graphic tease guy uh i don't understand the picture

00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:25.500
but i had a picture of my closet and my my t

00:44:25.500 --> 00:44:27.659
-shirts are color -coded one one year i get rid

00:44:27.659 --> 00:44:29.780
of 40 shirts in my closet was still full of t

00:44:29.780 --> 00:44:32.460
-shirts because i hang them up and i have them

00:44:32.460 --> 00:44:34.400
color -coded from white to all the colors in

00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:37.409
between all the way down to black it's um It's

00:44:37.409 --> 00:44:39.829
pretty impressive, I might say. And there's a

00:44:39.829 --> 00:44:42.289
lot of graphic tees, a lot of dress tees, I call

00:44:42.289 --> 00:44:43.409
them. They got a little dressier, because they

00:44:43.409 --> 00:44:44.849
have like maybe three buttons on them, like a

00:44:44.849 --> 00:44:48.289
Henley tee or a V -neck. But I'm a t -shirt guy,

00:44:48.409 --> 00:44:51.630
I love graphic tees. I've almost got a t -shirt

00:44:51.630 --> 00:44:56.230
for every holiday and every celebration, whether

00:44:56.230 --> 00:45:00.309
it's a Fourth of July or a birthday. I've got

00:45:00.309 --> 00:45:02.050
a t -shirt for everything. It's about Star Wars

00:45:02.050 --> 00:45:04.460
day. I think I want for Thanksgiving. I've got

00:45:04.460 --> 00:45:06.980
a couple of Thanksgiving. I'm saying caddies.

00:45:07.300 --> 00:45:09.539
I love my gravity. It's a way of expression for

00:45:09.539 --> 00:45:11.280
me, you know, without saying much. People see

00:45:11.280 --> 00:45:14.300
my tea, it's a conversation starter. So my personality

00:45:14.300 --> 00:45:16.000
is like, I like this tea because this is my type

00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:17.639
of humor, you know, or this is my type of thinking.

00:45:18.380 --> 00:45:20.539
So I think tea has become, I've come a long way

00:45:20.539 --> 00:45:22.119
from my childhood where it was just like supporting,

00:45:22.380 --> 00:45:24.119
you know, your favorite team or your favorite

00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:27.820
TV show. Yeah, they're great. It's a way of branding

00:45:27.820 --> 00:45:31.019
yourself. Yeah. I wish t -shirts fit me better.

00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:34.179
always had a problem finding the ones like if

00:45:34.179 --> 00:45:36.739
I get what I like then I wear it out and it doesn't

00:45:36.739 --> 00:45:40.039
last very long right there was a time man I think

00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:42.679
it's been close to 10 years ago but you were

00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:46.440
down in Pensacola with Monster with Jim and I'm

00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:49.340
showing you guys a good time on the town and

00:45:49.340 --> 00:45:53.079
we go to Seville quarter if you've never been

00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:55.940
to Pensacola yes if those of you listening have

00:45:55.940 --> 00:45:58.539
never been to Pensacola I probably haven't put

00:45:58.539 --> 00:46:01.539
a plug in since the early episodes but make a

00:46:01.539 --> 00:46:04.760
plan to come down here. It's a lot to do, daytime,

00:46:05.019 --> 00:46:07.480
nightlife. But here we are, Seville Quarter,

00:46:07.900 --> 00:46:11.280
and I think you went a tank. I don't remember

00:46:11.280 --> 00:46:15.199
what it was. Yes, I did. I wore a tank top. We're

00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:16.940
trying to get in. It might have been like a striped

00:46:16.940 --> 00:46:19.300
tank top, yeah. Yeah, and we're standing there.

00:46:19.440 --> 00:46:21.400
We're trying to get in, and they wouldn't let

00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:24.019
you in without at least a t -shirt. And luckily,

00:46:24.539 --> 00:46:27.789
I wasn't parked too far away, and I had... I'm

00:46:27.789 --> 00:46:29.750
just one of those guys that especially with the

00:46:29.750 --> 00:46:32.530
kids now I always have a few extra shirts and

00:46:32.530 --> 00:46:34.789
pairs of shorts for the kids because something's

00:46:34.789 --> 00:46:37.510
gonna happen But I used to always drive with

00:46:37.510 --> 00:46:40.409
an extra t -shirt. Maybe it's cuz I when I was

00:46:40.409 --> 00:46:43.309
single I'd go out to the beach and From like

00:46:43.309 --> 00:46:46.309
I'm gonna just get sweaty or this is gonna smell

00:46:46.309 --> 00:46:48.869
like the golf or something I'm gonna I just want

00:46:48.869 --> 00:46:52.829
something fresh to change into so I had the Such

00:46:52.829 --> 00:46:55.949
a long -winded story here, but the live in the

00:46:55.949 --> 00:47:01.019
dream T -shirt yes Man, I may have to share a

00:47:01.019 --> 00:47:02.880
picture of this on the socials another reason

00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:06.539
for you people to subscribe or follow me on Instagram

00:47:06.539 --> 00:47:09.199
or X if I've got a picture I'll post it. I don't

00:47:09.199 --> 00:47:12.539
know if we do but live in the dream You put it

00:47:12.539 --> 00:47:16.659
on and it just fit like a glove. I Remember you

00:47:16.659 --> 00:47:18.679
looking to like man. I'm never gonna see the

00:47:18.679 --> 00:47:22.559
shirt again. I Feel so bad, but you know, we're

00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:24.619
trying to have a good night. So good time. So

00:47:24.619 --> 00:47:28.760
I Now I can see you had a connection to a live

00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:33.980
in the dream shirt. I felt bad. I still have

00:47:33.980 --> 00:47:36.619
it. Right. Cause I returned it. You actually

00:47:36.619 --> 00:47:39.139
put it in the mail to me and I got asked, did

00:47:39.139 --> 00:47:42.480
it ever make an appearance in Birmingham or have

00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:43.880
you got so many shirts? I may have wore it once

00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:45.800
or twice. I may have wore it once or twice, but

00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:47.599
then I watched it. And I actually, I remember

00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:49.219
sending it to you because I put some miniatures

00:47:49.219 --> 00:47:52.289
in there with you as a thank you as well. Well,

00:47:52.349 --> 00:47:53.630
I remember the minute I don't remember it had

00:47:53.630 --> 00:47:55.550
to be some type of whiskey a bourbon managers

00:47:55.550 --> 00:47:56.949
I put in there. I can't remember what they were

00:47:56.949 --> 00:48:00.469
Yeah, and the shirt it's just a navy blue shirt

00:48:00.469 --> 00:48:03.469
and in white letters on the front live in L I

00:48:03.469 --> 00:48:07.190
V I N apostrophe the dream and it's a Burger

00:48:07.190 --> 00:48:09.230
place in Nashville. I forget the name of it.

00:48:09.230 --> 00:48:12.030
I've never actually been there. I saw a guy Wearing

00:48:12.030 --> 00:48:15.130
like a red shirt that said live in the dream

00:48:15.130 --> 00:48:17.650
I said, where'd you get that and instead of telling

00:48:17.650 --> 00:48:19.570
me he said I'm gonna order you one That's how

00:48:19.570 --> 00:48:23.019
I got that shirt Have never I never knew that

00:48:23.019 --> 00:48:24.780
I never knew that that's where it came from I

00:48:24.780 --> 00:48:26.539
thought it was a shirt that you just you know

00:48:26.539 --> 00:48:28.079
living the dream is what you tell people How

00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:29.860
you doing just living a dream, you know, I thought

00:48:29.860 --> 00:48:31.900
it's just a model shirt for you that you you

00:48:31.900 --> 00:48:34.179
know You really loved and I didn't know that

00:48:34.179 --> 00:48:37.400
so there's a place called living the dream in

00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:39.679
Nashville Well, it's I'm gonna try to look it

00:48:39.679 --> 00:48:41.659
up while we're talking but yeah the front of

00:48:41.659 --> 00:48:44.860
the shirt you kind of assumed it So many people

00:48:44.860 --> 00:48:47.639
are not gonna see the back of it. So yeah, you're

00:48:47.639 --> 00:48:51.579
right. It is a statement and That's what I was

00:48:51.579 --> 00:48:58.539
doing, you know 2014 15 I met Natalie in July

00:48:58.539 --> 00:49:03.400
of 16, so Just me in that time period living

00:49:03.400 --> 00:49:07.019
the dream was Yeah, there were some challenges

00:49:07.019 --> 00:49:11.179
but yeah That's a good time. Yeah some some good

00:49:11.179 --> 00:49:16.380
times speaking of bourbon. I Know we're both

00:49:16.380 --> 00:49:19.440
now. I've taken a little break From the bottle,

00:49:19.460 --> 00:49:24.900
but it wasn't a yeah lifestyle Need I mean not

00:49:24.900 --> 00:49:28.659
not any kind of excess problem. I just Right

00:49:28.659 --> 00:49:32.059
got sick last year for a couple weeks and just

00:49:32.059 --> 00:49:34.340
put it on the shelf a little bit So but anyway,

00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:37.139
I got a question here. I hope you appreciate

00:49:37.139 --> 00:49:41.340
this Maybe maybe we'll explore it more than just

00:49:41.340 --> 00:49:44.420
this question. All right Could you make it through

00:49:44.420 --> 00:49:49.019
this pairing? You're at B dubs. Okay, your Buffalo

00:49:49.019 --> 00:49:52.019
Wild Wings watching a game. Could you get through?

00:49:52.860 --> 00:49:57.500
without a glass of water a basket of 15 blazing

00:49:57.500 --> 00:50:03.440
hot wings paired up with a glass of Makers mark

00:50:03.440 --> 00:50:08.800
neat Mmm, take it a little beats little swig

00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:12.119
of the makers mark. I've never I've never had

00:50:12.119 --> 00:50:15.440
their blazing hot wings. I don't know That's

00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:17.980
interesting. I've had every wing at Hooters from

00:50:17.980 --> 00:50:20.219
the mildest to the hottest and they've never

00:50:20.219 --> 00:50:22.639
affected me. It's that bad. They've always been

00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:25.480
okay, but blazing hot from... I feel like I need

00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:27.519
to try this now. I need to try like a six piece

00:50:27.519 --> 00:50:30.599
to see if I can eat them. I don't know. I'm gonna

00:50:30.599 --> 00:50:32.840
say no. I don't think I can do it. And with Neat

00:50:32.840 --> 00:50:37.579
Daddy on the Rocks? Now, I love my whiskey and

00:50:37.579 --> 00:50:39.920
I can drink it straight all day, but that was

00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:42.179
something hot, like spicy like that. I don't

00:50:42.179 --> 00:50:44.500
know. Have you tried to challenge yourself is

00:50:44.500 --> 00:50:48.159
that why you put it up to me or it's just out

00:50:48.159 --> 00:50:53.239
of the random thoughts of your head I Wrote it

00:50:53.239 --> 00:50:56.099
down because yeah, there was a time where I might

00:50:56.099 --> 00:51:00.300
be out watching a game and I would get a bourbon

00:51:00.300 --> 00:51:03.840
on the rocks most likely with wings But not the

00:51:03.840 --> 00:51:06.380
hottest wings, but probably at least hot maybe

00:51:06.380 --> 00:51:09.860
extra hot and probably a glass of water on the

00:51:09.860 --> 00:51:12.159
side, but yeah, I had no problem with the bourbon

00:51:12.159 --> 00:51:14.760
and the wings. You gotta be a little careful

00:51:14.760 --> 00:51:18.500
with it, but... Yeah. I've been doing a lot more

00:51:18.500 --> 00:51:20.239
tequilas now, but yeah, I can still do whiskey.

00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:25.219
If it's on the rocks, I can maybe manage. I don't

00:51:25.219 --> 00:51:28.239
know, 15 is a lot though, man. It's really testing

00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:30.860
the limits. I think my brother, my older brother

00:51:30.860 --> 00:51:36.139
Rob, can put away, I want to say 20 at one sitting.

00:51:38.239 --> 00:51:41.820
Yes, I'm kind of a weakling on as far as the

00:51:41.820 --> 00:51:44.900
quantity of wings I can get to But really six

00:51:44.900 --> 00:51:48.119
is all I need six and some fries and then I'm

00:51:48.119 --> 00:51:55.699
good Yeah, I get them every now and then I used

00:51:55.699 --> 00:51:59.760
to eat my lies I even make them a lot but kind

00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:03.960
of that down So interesting thing about me. I've

00:52:03.960 --> 00:52:07.349
never grown up I didn't like ribs, steak, ranch

00:52:07.349 --> 00:52:09.289
dressing. Other type of beef I really liked was

00:52:09.289 --> 00:52:12.650
hamburgers. I never got into steak, pork chops,

00:52:12.889 --> 00:52:13.989
any of that stuff. Even though my dad can cook

00:52:13.989 --> 00:52:16.449
really good, as far as grilling and stuff, I

00:52:16.449 --> 00:52:18.530
just never liked it. So recently, I guess in

00:52:18.530 --> 00:52:21.130
the past couple years, I finally tried a steak

00:52:21.130 --> 00:52:22.969
that I like, and now I've been a steak user.

00:52:23.070 --> 00:52:24.829
I've been buying steaks and eating more steaks.

00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:27.940
So with that coming into my life, I've kind of

00:52:27.940 --> 00:52:29.780
cut back on my wing consumption because I'm exploring

00:52:29.780 --> 00:52:31.340
more types of, you know, different types of things

00:52:31.340 --> 00:52:34.079
like, you know, the ribeye, cowboy ribeyes, the

00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:36.440
flank, the skirt, you know, all different types

00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:37.679
of things. I want to try them all to see what

00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:39.699
I've been missing out on. So I haven't really

00:52:39.699 --> 00:52:42.460
been focusing on chicken as much. I love a T

00:52:42.460 --> 00:52:47.840
-bone, ribeye. Yes. Porterhouse. Yeah. Brisket.

00:52:47.880 --> 00:52:51.280
Brisket has been one of my new favorites. If

00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:53.360
I can find a good brisket, I'm sold. I'm good.

00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:58.559
How about this? How about this pairing a? Let

00:52:58.559 --> 00:53:04.460
me try this again. All right, how about okay?

00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:08.300
They still have is crystal The hamburger places

00:53:08.300 --> 00:53:09.880
is still around they've been shutting them down.

00:53:09.880 --> 00:53:12.800
How they doing? They have we've got we got one

00:53:12.800 --> 00:53:16.900
that I care know of in in Hoover It's been holding

00:53:16.900 --> 00:53:19.820
on by three and I think there's one in Tuscaloosa

00:53:19.820 --> 00:53:22.380
That's all into I've seen but a lot of them to

00:53:22.380 --> 00:53:25.719
close down around the state. So those are the

00:53:25.719 --> 00:53:27.739
two I've seen recently. Maybe one in Montgomery.

00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:30.760
Alright, let's just say you make a run over to

00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:34.539
the Hoover Crystals, get yourself a sackful and

00:53:34.539 --> 00:53:40.519
come back home and pour a stout glass of old

00:53:40.519 --> 00:53:48.679
granddad. Oh man. That's Scott's favorite. Kentucky

00:53:48.679 --> 00:53:53.780
straight bourbon whiskey. Oh yeah. I can do it.

00:53:54.159 --> 00:53:56.260
And a sack full. I can do that, yeah. A sack

00:53:56.260 --> 00:53:58.880
full. How much is a sack full? Is it 10? Is that

00:53:58.880 --> 00:54:01.179
how many it is? 10? 4 sack full? I don't know,

00:54:01.199 --> 00:54:06.440
but yeah. Oh yeah. I think it's 12. As usual,

00:54:06.599 --> 00:54:07.940
Christmas is the best as late at night. It's

00:54:07.940 --> 00:54:10.139
kind of like Waffle House, you know. You eat

00:54:10.139 --> 00:54:11.679
Waffle House in the day, it's okay, but at night

00:54:11.679 --> 00:54:13.940
it's the best meal you can think about. It hits

00:54:13.940 --> 00:54:17.219
all the check marks. It's filling and it's greasy.

00:54:17.300 --> 00:54:20.780
I mean, that's all you need. Now, my kids actually,

00:54:20.780 --> 00:54:26.460
they like... They like Waffle House. Yeah. Yeah,

00:54:26.719 --> 00:54:28.699
my Sophie has a Waffle House t -shirt. She went

00:54:28.699 --> 00:54:31.159
there for her birthday last year. And they gave

00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:33.820
her a little hat. It's really a fun place for

00:54:33.820 --> 00:54:39.760
kids. And the menu is very straightforward. Yes,

00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:42.599
you can make a lot of it at the house, but here's

00:54:42.599 --> 00:54:44.880
the way I look at it. You can make a waffle at

00:54:44.880 --> 00:54:47.920
home, but you're not going to make a waffle that's

00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:51.420
going to taste like a Waffle House waffle. Now

00:54:51.420 --> 00:54:54.099
the eggs and the toast and the bacon, yeah, but

00:54:54.099 --> 00:55:01.699
it's the experience. Did you ever play the jukebox

00:55:01.699 --> 00:55:06.840
at a Waffle House? Yes. When they had them. Do

00:55:06.840 --> 00:55:08.260
they still have them? I'm not even sure, but

00:55:08.260 --> 00:55:11.179
yes, I played them in the past. Anyone know what

00:55:11.179 --> 00:55:14.860
I played? I gotta hear it. I played a mix of

00:55:14.860 --> 00:55:16.719
stuff. It all depends on the crowd, but I played

00:55:16.719 --> 00:55:17.920
a mix of stuff. You know, I had to play some

00:55:17.920 --> 00:55:20.219
90s hip -hop somewhere in there. And then I was

00:55:20.219 --> 00:55:22.900
throwing some grunge 90s somewhere and then maybe

00:55:22.900 --> 00:55:26.159
like an old school song that my, uh, my grandparents

00:55:26.159 --> 00:55:30.340
used to listen to. Um, just a nice little mix.

00:55:30.980 --> 00:55:33.139
You ever get up to the jukebox and you got the

00:55:33.139 --> 00:55:35.699
dollar in your hand or the quarters and you stop

00:55:35.699 --> 00:55:37.900
for a second, like you said, and it just kind

00:55:37.900 --> 00:55:40.559
of survey. You just look around and say, all

00:55:40.559 --> 00:55:42.380
right, let's see. I had, this is what I was thinking.

00:55:42.679 --> 00:55:46.840
Maybe we should call an audible and, and just

00:55:46.840 --> 00:55:49.710
cause you want to. Want to make everybody happy

00:55:49.710 --> 00:55:51.469
what you want to play here what you want to hear

00:55:51.469 --> 00:55:54.090
but man There's nothing better than you put that

00:55:54.090 --> 00:55:56.829
song in or those three songs You go back and

00:55:56.829 --> 00:55:59.750
sit down and you see a head bobbing across the

00:55:59.750 --> 00:56:02.769
way, right? It's like they were having an experience

00:56:02.769 --> 00:56:05.809
that they would not have had Mm -hmm fighting

00:56:05.809 --> 00:56:10.030
cue up that song exactly man. I don't know how

00:56:10.030 --> 00:56:16.090
we got to this topic, but How about another one

00:56:16.090 --> 00:56:22.000
see here And you just, you cut me off here if

00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:24.179
it's getting a little out of hand. Okay. When

00:56:24.179 --> 00:56:27.719
was the last time, when was the last time that

00:56:27.719 --> 00:56:31.039
you went in, you went for a massive cannonball

00:56:31.039 --> 00:56:35.260
or can opener at a friend's pool or a hotel condo

00:56:35.260 --> 00:56:39.920
pool? Oh man, a cannonball? Jesus. Um, you just

00:56:39.920 --> 00:56:43.039
kind of walk in kind of like, nobody knows it's

00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:45.960
coming in. You just make that slow entry into

00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:50.099
the pool, but just let it. Let it rip. It's been

00:56:50.099 --> 00:56:52.440
a while. Well, you know, anytime I go to a pool,

00:56:52.679 --> 00:56:54.199
we just went to a pool a couple of weeks ago.

00:56:54.420 --> 00:56:56.940
We're at the beach. I just jumped straight in.

00:56:56.980 --> 00:56:58.500
If it's cold or hot, I just get it over with.

00:56:58.539 --> 00:57:00.739
I like to jump straight in. I'm trying to think

00:57:00.739 --> 00:57:04.039
last time I did a cannonball. Oh, man. Well,

00:57:04.039 --> 00:57:05.380
I haven't done it a long time. I haven't thought

00:57:05.380 --> 00:57:07.780
about that. Yeah. Yeah. I remember jumping in

00:57:07.780 --> 00:57:09.519
the pool to save my brother one time. I was drowning

00:57:09.519 --> 00:57:13.139
my baby brother. Wow. That was, I don't think

00:57:13.139 --> 00:57:16.639
he even remembers that. he was stubborn and he

00:57:16.639 --> 00:57:18.079
was trying to go I told him stay you know by

00:57:18.079 --> 00:57:19.880
me in the pool and he went to the deep end so

00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:22.039
I had to run around the pool and just dive just

00:57:22.039 --> 00:57:23.519
I didn't know how to dive I knew how to swim

00:57:23.519 --> 00:57:26.000
so I jumped in I got to him and just swim the

00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:27.360
best I could because I was a kid at the time

00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:29.940
because he's only 13 years younger than me and

00:57:29.940 --> 00:57:32.659
so he had to be like three and I was 16 my parents

00:57:32.659 --> 00:57:33.900
left the kids with me to watch them while they

00:57:33.900 --> 00:57:36.719
even went to go eat and uh I don't know if my

00:57:36.719 --> 00:57:38.239
parents know this story I don't think I even

00:57:38.239 --> 00:57:40.219
told them I felt like you know it was my fault

00:57:40.219 --> 00:57:41.760
this was going on because I was to be watching

00:57:41.760 --> 00:57:45.559
them and I had my sister and uh That's the most

00:57:45.559 --> 00:57:47.300
memorable cannonball I think I did is I just

00:57:47.300 --> 00:57:48.940
jumped in there. I don't think I dove because

00:57:48.940 --> 00:57:50.159
I didn't know how to do it. I just jumped in

00:57:50.159 --> 00:57:52.760
the best I could and started swimming. Yeah.

00:57:52.980 --> 00:57:56.179
And you saw him go in as it happened? Well, I

00:57:56.179 --> 00:57:58.039
saw him going underwater. He couldn't come back

00:57:58.039 --> 00:57:59.059
up. I saw him put his hand up because he was

00:57:59.059 --> 00:58:00.980
trying to come back up and he couldn't. And that's

00:58:00.980 --> 00:58:02.619
when panic mode kicked in, you know, fight or

00:58:02.619 --> 00:58:04.599
flight. Yeah. I jumped out from wherever I was

00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:06.199
at, put my sister to the side and I just ran

00:58:06.199 --> 00:58:08.159
as fast as I could and jumped in the pool. I

00:58:08.159 --> 00:58:10.320
don't remember if I dove. I don't remember how

00:58:10.320 --> 00:58:12.889
I landed. I just remember Getting them and bringing

00:58:12.889 --> 00:58:14.289
them out and I said, all right, it's time to

00:58:14.289 --> 00:58:15.809
go back to the hotel room. We're gonna wait till

00:58:15.809 --> 00:58:18.530
parents get back home. Let me get back in. It

00:58:18.530 --> 00:58:21.050
was a scary day, but I think that's the last

00:58:21.050 --> 00:58:23.630
big jump. I mean... Well, thank God you were

00:58:23.630 --> 00:58:28.710
there. Yeah. Yeah, there was one time that my

00:58:28.710 --> 00:58:33.309
nephew Michael, Travis' son... Oh, yeah. He saved

00:58:33.309 --> 00:58:37.150
my son, Warren. This is a story I haven't ever

00:58:37.150 --> 00:58:39.949
told publicly, but we're standing there at a

00:58:39.949 --> 00:58:43.960
hotel indoor pool. And Natalie and I were having

00:58:43.960 --> 00:58:46.960
a conversation with somebody right there, like

00:58:46.960 --> 00:58:49.340
right next to where Warren's playing. And we

00:58:49.340 --> 00:58:51.880
had just taken his little puddle jumpers off

00:58:51.880 --> 00:58:53.079
because we were getting ready to go back up to

00:58:53.079 --> 00:58:57.059
the room. And he was chasing a tennis ball back

00:58:57.059 --> 00:58:59.019
in, back into the pool. He was probably three

00:58:59.019 --> 00:59:04.059
and a half. Yeah. Michael was right there and

00:59:04.059 --> 00:59:06.780
saw it and made Warren go straight down. And

00:59:06.780 --> 00:59:10.489
he lifted him right back up. And Lauren talked

00:59:10.489 --> 00:59:12.489
about he said yeah, I was he said I was sinking

00:59:12.489 --> 00:59:17.090
and I said and Michael saved you but I felt really

00:59:17.090 --> 00:59:19.789
bad and it goes it does go to show you that man

00:59:19.789 --> 00:59:23.730
with kids and bodies of water pools Gotta be

00:59:23.730 --> 00:59:26.449
really really careful with the Gulf or the ocean

00:59:26.449 --> 00:59:29.449
depending on where you live for vacation It happened

00:59:29.449 --> 00:59:31.710
really fast. So yes, put that phone away when

00:59:31.710 --> 00:59:34.550
you're near the water and you got kids and make

00:59:34.550 --> 00:59:39.179
sure they got their inflatable devices Yeah,

00:59:39.820 --> 00:59:41.739
that's pretty cool. Michael did it being the

00:59:41.739 --> 00:59:44.159
you know, the big brother of the family of his

00:59:44.159 --> 00:59:47.119
siblings. It happened. Save another kid. Yeah,

00:59:47.119 --> 00:59:49.199
it was so fast and he had him out of the pool

00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:52.860
like nothing happened, but then it just We're

00:59:52.860 --> 00:59:54.840
going back up the elevator and everything's fine.

00:59:54.840 --> 00:59:56.940
And you're just thinking man. Everything would

00:59:56.940 --> 01:00:04.559
not have been fine Right. Yeah Yeah, so I think

01:00:04.559 --> 01:00:06.139
it's real I'm glad you brought that up because

01:00:06.139 --> 01:00:09.400
here we are Weather's getting warmer. Mm -hmm,

01:00:09.519 --> 01:00:12.300
you know fun in the Sun and all that stuff everyone's

01:00:12.300 --> 01:00:14.460
just be careful out there if you got little ones

01:00:14.460 --> 01:00:19.400
make sure they're being supervised and What I

01:00:19.400 --> 01:00:21.139
had a couple other questions. Oh, yeah, so we

01:00:21.139 --> 01:00:24.059
didn't even we didn't touch on the New York Giants.

01:00:24.960 --> 01:00:28.460
Oh Yeah, our favorite NFL team go big blue. Yes.

01:00:28.539 --> 01:00:30.340
That's my favorite NFL team. He backs me all

01:00:30.340 --> 01:00:32.860
the time They get they get me like because I

01:00:32.860 --> 01:00:35.159
was born in LA. I was raised in Alabama pretty

01:00:35.159 --> 01:00:38.139
much for most of my life I didn't have a, you

01:00:38.139 --> 01:00:40.199
know, being in the South, like in, you know,

01:00:40.360 --> 01:00:42.440
in Alabama, you know how it is. We don't have

01:00:42.440 --> 01:00:44.599
any NFL teams. We can't even support a pro team,

01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:47.019
a semi -pro team. We got one now that's supported,

01:00:47.719 --> 01:00:50.539
but yeah, the Iron, the Barracudas. We've had

01:00:50.539 --> 01:00:52.360
a few teams come through here and the support

01:00:52.360 --> 01:00:56.699
has just not been good. Even the Stallions? The

01:00:56.699 --> 01:00:58.960
Stallions have won the championship two years

01:00:58.960 --> 01:01:00.320
in a row. People need to support them. And I

01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:01.599
feel bad because they haven't been to a game.

01:01:01.769 --> 01:01:03.590
I think I'm kind of burned because every time

01:01:03.590 --> 01:01:05.230
I saw sport, I support the iron with the most

01:01:05.230 --> 01:01:07.170
of their games and then in middle season, they

01:01:07.170 --> 01:01:10.550
just cut it out, you know, and the salient seem

01:01:10.550 --> 01:01:12.389
to be here for a while. So I'm going to go to

01:01:12.389 --> 01:01:15.070
the games this year. Man, I love the iron. I

01:01:15.070 --> 01:01:17.550
was even from afar from Pensacola. I love that

01:01:17.550 --> 01:01:22.750
season. I was pretty excited to watch. But so

01:01:22.750 --> 01:01:24.969
I became a jazz fan because I have a team, you

01:01:24.969 --> 01:01:27.869
know, people either pick the Saints, the Falcons.

01:01:29.069 --> 01:01:31.769
Cowboys for some reason Pittsburgh Steelers or

01:01:31.769 --> 01:01:33.650
just whatever the popular team was back then

01:01:33.650 --> 01:01:36.989
or something close by in like Tennessee Titans

01:01:36.989 --> 01:01:40.769
or the Oilers back in the day. I Was a Giants

01:01:40.769 --> 01:01:43.090
fan because everybody hung out with in the service

01:01:43.090 --> 01:01:45.469
with New Yorkers like I got a lot of New Yorkers

01:01:45.469 --> 01:01:47.730
And I think they're really belligerent and straight

01:01:47.730 --> 01:01:49.409
to the point and that's how I kind of talk to

01:01:49.409 --> 01:01:51.389
people I'm just kind of I'm not really good at

01:01:51.389 --> 01:01:52.809
sugarcoating that's how New Yorkers are they

01:01:52.809 --> 01:01:55.130
just tell you so I hung out a lot of them and

01:01:55.130 --> 01:01:57.630
I embraced that culture of all the Giants fans

01:01:57.630 --> 01:01:59.610
that was around me and And I just became a Giants

01:01:59.610 --> 01:02:02.130
fan, you know, back when Pax Colbert was there.

01:02:03.829 --> 01:02:05.289
And I was in there when Phil Sims was there.

01:02:05.329 --> 01:02:06.750
I was a little bit young for when Phil Sims and

01:02:06.750 --> 01:02:10.030
they won the Susubos. But I guess in the early

01:02:10.030 --> 01:02:12.269
2000s when I really became really interested

01:02:12.269 --> 01:02:15.989
in the field, as far as being a team fan of anybody.

01:02:16.110 --> 01:02:18.510
I had a lot of players I liked, but as far as

01:02:18.510 --> 01:02:20.230
having a team, I didn't until I started hanging

01:02:20.230 --> 01:02:23.360
around. People who are from a city that you know

01:02:23.360 --> 01:02:25.619
actually grew up with the NFL team and how they

01:02:25.619 --> 01:02:27.219
embraced the culture and showed it to me and

01:02:27.219 --> 01:02:29.239
I was okay I can get down with this. So I've

01:02:29.239 --> 01:02:31.780
been a jazz fan ever since then So I've been

01:02:31.780 --> 01:02:33.500
a jazz fan for at least about I guess you can

01:02:33.500 --> 01:02:37.219
say 20 24 20 years Wow, you're there for the

01:02:37.219 --> 01:02:41.860
early coffin days Ah, yes coffin Tim coffin.

01:02:42.039 --> 01:02:45.880
Yes. I'm Tom coffin. Yes. I Missed that that

01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:50.690
Tom coffin that that stare often to the the distance,

01:02:50.690 --> 01:02:55.610
the scoreboard or the ref. Just that. Oh, I loved

01:02:55.610 --> 01:03:02.309
it. He was so locked in and kind of a throwback.

01:03:03.030 --> 01:03:10.429
Oh, yeah. And Tiki Barber, I guess, earlier time,

01:03:10.750 --> 01:03:14.929
earlier teams. Yeah, Tiki, I remember his last

01:03:14.929 --> 01:03:17.309
game, like it was before they didn't really have

01:03:17.309 --> 01:03:19.699
a playoff run that year, but. He had one of the

01:03:19.699 --> 01:03:22.099
best games in his career, his last couple games

01:03:22.099 --> 01:03:25.139
of the season. He had a 220 -yard game. He just

01:03:25.139 --> 01:03:28.579
was playing like he was signing another year.

01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:30.400
I think he was just showing people that he could

01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:32.360
still do it, but he was just tired. He was ready

01:03:32.360 --> 01:03:34.699
to retire while he could still enjoy it. That's

01:03:34.699 --> 01:03:37.760
what I think he was doing. But that's back when,

01:03:37.760 --> 01:03:41.099
what was it, Strahan was still there. Yeah. Strahan

01:03:41.099 --> 01:03:43.440
was tired after his Super Bowl. That defense

01:03:43.440 --> 01:03:44.739
has always been good in New York. And that's

01:03:44.739 --> 01:03:46.940
why I think we kind of keep a good defense, and

01:03:46.940 --> 01:03:49.389
our offense has kind of been subpar. We've had

01:03:49.389 --> 01:03:51.250
some, you know, some electric players come through,

01:03:51.590 --> 01:03:53.389
but isn't there our office has never been like,

01:03:53.670 --> 01:03:55.309
you know, like the top office that people like,

01:03:55.309 --> 01:03:57.010
oh, they're looking for the office. It's always

01:03:57.010 --> 01:03:59.130
been the defense that keeps us through like the

01:03:59.130 --> 01:04:01.070
last Super Bowl, the Giants won. I think we was

01:04:01.070 --> 01:04:02.789
a wild card. We were wild card. I think we were

01:04:02.789 --> 01:04:06.670
nine and eight that season and we managed to

01:04:06.670 --> 01:04:10.150
make it through and beat the Patriots. Oh, that's

01:04:10.150 --> 01:04:13.769
such a good Super Bowl for me. Oh my God. I remember

01:04:13.769 --> 01:04:15.789
watching that Super Bowl. Yes. I was running

01:04:15.789 --> 01:04:18.139
laps around the house I was at. because everybody

01:04:18.139 --> 01:04:19.760
thought that I was not going to be a good Super

01:04:19.760 --> 01:04:23.360
Bowl. And when it happened, when I knew we were

01:04:23.360 --> 01:04:25.860
winning, I could not be still. I just ran around.

01:04:26.059 --> 01:04:28.420
I couldn't be still. I had to get up and show

01:04:28.420 --> 01:04:32.780
my excitement. But yeah, I hold on to those moments

01:04:32.780 --> 01:04:34.440
like these seasons we have right now because

01:04:34.440 --> 01:04:39.659
it's rough. I feel like a Browns fan. They had

01:04:39.659 --> 01:04:41.360
some tough years. We haven't been in the doghouse

01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:43.460
like they have for as long as they have. But

01:04:43.460 --> 01:04:46.280
it's not a fun, you know. position to be in when

01:04:46.280 --> 01:04:49.980
your team's not winning. No, it's not. And I

01:04:49.980 --> 01:04:51.760
don't know where they pick in the first round

01:04:51.760 --> 01:04:54.400
this year. The draft, I guess, is the end of

01:04:54.400 --> 01:05:00.659
this month. Yeah. I do feel like the quarterback

01:05:00.659 --> 01:05:05.599
situation wasn't the best idea. Yeah. Danny dimes

01:05:05.599 --> 01:05:08.380
all that money for having his best season of

01:05:08.380 --> 01:05:11.219
his career. But I was like, you should have,

01:05:11.239 --> 01:05:13.349
I don't know. Usually I'm in this for something

01:05:13.349 --> 01:05:15.349
else like maybe a better offensive line or you

01:05:15.349 --> 01:05:18.210
know Tackle the guard or anything besides this

01:05:18.210 --> 01:05:21.510
one dollar one player who subpar so that's my

01:05:21.510 --> 01:05:25.210
two cents I agree. How about the Crimson Tide

01:05:25.210 --> 01:05:30.969
you've of course following? Oh, yeah Alabama,

01:05:31.210 --> 01:05:36.280
yeah I've been a battle fans. I was a kid You

01:05:36.280 --> 01:05:38.139
know my oldest he goes to Alabama. He loves it

01:05:38.139 --> 01:05:40.360
out there do stuff with muscle We go out there

01:05:40.360 --> 01:05:42.780
and support them for different games I've actually

01:05:42.780 --> 01:05:45.320
got a contract out there with the standard which

01:05:45.320 --> 01:05:49.420
is a piece of place out of New York and They

01:05:49.420 --> 01:05:51.280
saw their locations up there and moved down to

01:05:51.280 --> 01:05:55.159
Alabama for the great location and They the one

01:05:55.159 --> 01:05:57.139
of the owners actually recreated the recipe of

01:05:57.139 --> 01:05:59.559
the pizza because of David Portnoy who's uh,

01:05:59.559 --> 01:06:03.000
you know the founder of Barstool's the guy who

01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:05.699
tries pizza It says one bite and he judges your

01:06:05.699 --> 01:06:07.900
pizza off that one bite. He actually came down

01:06:07.900 --> 01:06:10.780
for the Texas Alabama game and came into that

01:06:10.780 --> 01:06:12.219
restaurant that we had the contract with and

01:06:12.219 --> 01:06:15.139
it's a video you can look it up online. The standard

01:06:15.139 --> 01:06:17.119
in Alabama is Alabama versus Texas and he took

01:06:17.119 --> 01:06:19.360
one bite he gave him like three bites and he

01:06:19.360 --> 01:06:22.079
gave like a 7 .3 out of 10 which is good. To

01:06:22.079 --> 01:06:24.960
see the excitement of the owner and how many

01:06:24.960 --> 01:06:27.000
people were excited to see it happening. The

01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:29.280
owner was like shaking almost crying after the

01:06:29.280 --> 01:06:32.860
dude left. It was pretty amazing. And I'm glad

01:06:32.860 --> 01:06:35.239
I was a Bama fan. Even though we lost, even though

01:06:35.239 --> 01:06:37.639
Texas got us, you know, we lost Sarkeesian who

01:06:37.639 --> 01:06:39.840
came up through the same program. It was still

01:06:39.840 --> 01:06:41.320
a good experience to be a part of. And I probably

01:06:41.320 --> 01:06:42.659
wouldn't have been there if I wasn't a Bama fan.

01:06:42.719 --> 01:06:44.440
I'd probably been at Auburn or something trying

01:06:44.440 --> 01:06:46.880
to do something with them. But yeah, I've been

01:06:46.880 --> 01:06:49.300
a Bama fan as long as I can remember. How about,

01:06:49.639 --> 01:06:51.320
I may be putting you on the spot here, but do

01:06:51.320 --> 01:06:54.260
you have a, since it is Dan time, but it's really,

01:06:54.500 --> 01:06:58.039
it's, it's tray time. It is solidly tray time

01:06:58.039 --> 01:07:02.449
today, but do you have a favorite athlete? Name

01:07:02.449 --> 01:07:12.690
Dan I Like Dan Marley Phoenix Suns, I guess he

01:07:12.690 --> 01:07:15.510
was a small forward back then Thunder Dan is

01:07:15.510 --> 01:07:18.130
what they call them Dan Marley that to see somebody

01:07:18.130 --> 01:07:20.710
shoot threes from that range at that age was

01:07:20.710 --> 01:07:22.769
just amazing I mean he like he did it all the

01:07:22.769 --> 01:07:25.530
time and made it look so easy and I was like,

01:07:25.530 --> 01:07:26.829
oh, this is you know, it's something you don't

01:07:26.829 --> 01:07:28.670
see I mean, you know people see dogs those became

01:07:28.670 --> 01:07:31.010
popular dog contests and all that But see, I

01:07:31.010 --> 01:07:33.190
got to pull up and just shoot threes from, you

01:07:33.190 --> 01:07:35.210
know, right after they cross the half court line.

01:07:35.510 --> 01:07:36.889
One of my favorite things to watch is that's

01:07:36.889 --> 01:07:39.269
when they had, you know, KJ, I think Barkley

01:07:39.269 --> 01:07:41.630
came over eventually. So that's central to Ballas

01:07:41.630 --> 01:07:45.469
was there. But Thunder Dan was one of my favorite

01:07:45.469 --> 01:07:48.789
days because he made perimeter shooting exciting

01:07:48.789 --> 01:07:50.809
because he would stay so far behind the line.

01:07:51.230 --> 01:07:53.550
And now it's a normal thing. See, you know, all

01:07:53.550 --> 01:07:57.030
these guys doing it now. So I like to say he

01:07:57.030 --> 01:08:00.820
was one of those founding members of the Long

01:08:00.820 --> 01:08:03.300
distance three, you know, he's like he made it

01:08:03.300 --> 01:08:05.119
popular made it so you can do it in the game

01:08:05.119 --> 01:08:08.380
and you know Make it exciting instead of just

01:08:08.380 --> 01:08:10.000
a buzzer beater. You can just do it in the time

01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:12.179
of the game people get excited about it You're

01:08:12.179 --> 01:08:15.360
right about that. Yeah Thunder Dan Yeah, small

01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:19.539
forward Coached a little a little bit of college

01:08:19.539 --> 01:08:24.399
basketball after his playing days Actually the

01:08:24.399 --> 01:08:26.340
team one of the teams at Alabama in the tournament

01:08:26.340 --> 01:08:29.840
went through this year Grand Canyon He was a

01:08:29.840 --> 01:08:34.800
former coach of the Grand Canyon and But yeah,

01:08:34.840 --> 01:08:39.640
some of those Phoenix Suns teams, man Mm -hmm

01:08:39.640 --> 01:08:44.260
great times for the NBA In the Western Conference

01:08:44.260 --> 01:08:46.720
one of the most dominant teams gosh remember

01:08:46.720 --> 01:08:51.560
that the NBA finals with the Bulls and Suns Mm

01:08:51.560 --> 01:08:56.500
-hmm. Yes, I remember I don't remember year,

01:08:56.619 --> 01:08:58.739
but do you remember Charles Barker's famous?

01:08:59.210 --> 01:09:02.310
into the game interview they were down like oh

01:09:02.310 --> 01:09:04.250
maybe like four games no it's like three games

01:09:04.250 --> 01:09:07.010
or two or something like that and they had just

01:09:07.010 --> 01:09:10.310
one and Barkley was like oh I saw the signs in

01:09:10.310 --> 01:09:12.550
Chicago saying we're about to repeat and blah

01:09:12.550 --> 01:09:14.869
blah he said he's like he's like God showed me

01:09:14.869 --> 01:09:17.510
I'm a dream that we need to take all those signs

01:09:17.510 --> 01:09:19.109
down because we're gonna be the champions like

01:09:19.109 --> 01:09:20.930
he was talking so much noise I didn't forget

01:09:20.930 --> 01:09:25.970
that and uh then they lost yeah they lost oh

01:09:25.970 --> 01:09:28.439
man That's I got to go back and watch some of

01:09:28.439 --> 01:09:30.939
the stuff. I remember when Did you do this when

01:09:30.939 --> 01:09:33.140
the pandemic hit like those first couple months

01:09:33.140 --> 01:09:35.859
and nobody knows what's going on? The sports

01:09:35.859 --> 01:09:38.699
have all halted. There's no live sports, right?

01:09:39.000 --> 01:09:41.119
One of the things I did I'd get on youtube at

01:09:41.119 --> 01:09:44.920
night and just watch like old Old playoff games.

01:09:44.920 --> 01:09:49.079
I was watching like yeah baseball 1952 world

01:09:49.079 --> 01:09:54.229
series black and white stuff. Oh, wow No, no,

01:09:54.229 --> 01:09:55.869
I did, you know, since that, you know, sports

01:09:55.869 --> 01:09:57.529
wasn't going on, that's when they started playing

01:09:57.529 --> 01:10:00.409
those classic Hollywood games more often on different

01:10:00.409 --> 01:10:01.930
channels. So I would, if that was on, I would

01:10:01.930 --> 01:10:03.750
watch one of those and be like, oh man, I forgot

01:10:03.750 --> 01:10:06.489
about this game. You know, it was real nostalgic

01:10:06.489 --> 01:10:07.869
more than that. It's like watching an old movie

01:10:07.869 --> 01:10:09.569
that you hadn't seen in a while to watch those

01:10:09.569 --> 01:10:12.210
highlights happen again and just to see the,

01:10:12.210 --> 01:10:14.050
even the crowd, the way the crowd reacts to the

01:10:14.050 --> 01:10:16.210
game and you know, how the culture was, how he

01:10:16.210 --> 01:10:19.010
dressed back then. And the game that, you know,

01:10:19.090 --> 01:10:21.130
older games, there's more raw, I feel like, you

01:10:21.130 --> 01:10:23.149
know. It's not so many prima donnas as it is

01:10:23.149 --> 01:10:25.789
now. Right. It's kind of all about the sport.

01:10:26.010 --> 01:10:28.609
If you got bumped, you just kept playing, you

01:10:28.609 --> 01:10:29.869
know. You weren't trying to get the call because

01:10:29.869 --> 01:10:31.689
you got bumped. You were trying to get the ball

01:10:31.689 --> 01:10:33.010
back and prove that you were better than that

01:10:33.010 --> 01:10:36.789
person who just scored on you or whatever. Now,

01:10:37.050 --> 01:10:39.649
Trey, did you play a little basketball at Ramsey?

01:10:40.329 --> 01:10:42.250
I did. I played basketball at Ramsey. I played

01:10:42.250 --> 01:10:44.770
a little bit in the service, too. I played shooting

01:10:44.770 --> 01:10:48.920
guard. I played shooting guard. It was cool.

01:10:48.960 --> 01:10:50.939
Ramsey was fun. I played under Coach Skaggs,

01:10:51.159 --> 01:10:53.760
who was the Nike ambassador coach for Alabama.

01:10:54.159 --> 01:10:56.840
So I played a little AAU ball as well in the

01:10:56.840 --> 01:11:00.260
summers. But yeah, I played basketball once in

01:11:00.260 --> 01:11:01.720
my life. I played a little football not much.

01:11:01.939 --> 01:11:03.859
My high school didn't have a football team. I

01:11:03.859 --> 01:11:06.020
picked it up a little bit in the service. The

01:11:06.020 --> 01:11:08.680
Marine Corps had some intramural leagues I played

01:11:08.680 --> 01:11:13.239
on. But yeah, basketball was probably my favorite

01:11:13.239 --> 01:11:16.760
sport that I played. It was a fun time. It was

01:11:16.760 --> 01:11:20.439
one of those sports. You can talk noise, be yourself,

01:11:20.500 --> 01:11:22.479
and people respect that. They respect you, you

01:11:22.479 --> 01:11:25.020
know, talking noise to them and still playing

01:11:25.020 --> 01:11:27.699
the game respectfully and not just trying to,

01:11:27.699 --> 01:11:29.899
you know, dog them out or just talk bad about

01:11:29.899 --> 01:11:31.039
them. It's just, you know, that's part of the

01:11:31.039 --> 01:11:33.220
game is some people talk when they play, you

01:11:33.220 --> 01:11:36.300
know, and you can enjoy that, especially if it's

01:11:36.300 --> 01:11:37.600
entertaining to whoever you're playing against.

01:11:37.659 --> 01:11:40.060
I've always had compliments about my trash talking

01:11:40.060 --> 01:11:43.189
during games. That's one thing I like because

01:11:43.189 --> 01:11:45.729
I go out here and just be myself and not have

01:11:45.729 --> 01:11:47.850
to hold my, you know, my tongue whenever I play.

01:11:48.189 --> 01:11:49.909
So it's one of my favorite sports because of

01:11:49.909 --> 01:11:52.569
that. Yeah. There's a playground near the blue

01:11:52.569 --> 01:11:55.829
Wahoo stadium down here. It's across the street

01:11:55.829 --> 01:11:58.409
and there's a basketball court. There's always

01:11:58.409 --> 01:12:01.670
guys playing and man, it's sometimes it sounds

01:12:01.670 --> 01:12:06.050
like like a fight's about to break out. Like

01:12:06.050 --> 01:12:07.930
you said, it's just, it's all confined within

01:12:07.930 --> 01:12:12.239
that game. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. And everybody

01:12:12.239 --> 01:12:13.920
is understood, you know, you know, it's just

01:12:13.920 --> 01:12:15.960
how you play. It's part of the game, you know.

01:12:16.600 --> 01:12:18.680
I can't get carried away sometimes. It can, some

01:12:18.680 --> 01:12:21.380
people, you know, it may get a little personal.

01:12:22.399 --> 01:12:24.159
But usually it's, you know, it doesn't get much

01:12:24.159 --> 01:12:25.979
more than an argument. He'd argument, somebody

01:12:25.979 --> 01:12:27.779
quits or somebody leaves or somebody takes their

01:12:27.779 --> 01:12:30.380
ball, goes home crying, you know. I mean, but

01:12:30.380 --> 01:12:32.979
nobody's getting beat up or shot or anything

01:12:32.979 --> 01:12:37.119
crazy like that. It's understood that you talk

01:12:37.119 --> 01:12:39.439
and you play the game. It's a form of expression.

01:12:40.380 --> 01:12:43.079
Well Trey, I guess I say this a lot on the show

01:12:43.079 --> 01:12:44.859
with with my guests, you know when I wish we

01:12:44.859 --> 01:12:47.279
could talk for another hour But I gotta tell

01:12:47.279 --> 01:12:50.100
you trade with you If my wife would let me get

01:12:50.100 --> 01:12:53.239
away with it if Natalie would be okay I just

01:12:53.239 --> 01:12:55.260
I'd say hang hang on a second. I'm gonna go grab

01:12:55.260 --> 01:12:57.319
something to drink and we keep talking for another

01:12:57.319 --> 01:13:05.579
hour I got a couple other quick questions. I

01:13:05.579 --> 01:13:07.800
hope okay. I hope we've covered all the important

01:13:07.800 --> 01:13:11.420
stuff because this is Man, I got one for you

01:13:11.420 --> 01:13:15.699
here Okay. All right. Did you ever follow wrestling?

01:13:16.600 --> 01:13:20.100
When I was younger I did and I went to my first

01:13:20.100 --> 01:13:23.560
real wrestling match and I got to get right up

01:13:23.560 --> 01:13:26.079
next to the stage and I realized how fake it

01:13:26.079 --> 01:13:28.060
was and it kind of killed it for me I was I was

01:13:28.060 --> 01:13:30.399
trying to nosebleed seats instead of being so

01:13:30.399 --> 01:13:33.079
close before I just really believed like oh I'm

01:13:33.079 --> 01:13:34.479
gonna see this and such as it's gonna do that

01:13:34.479 --> 01:13:36.979
and then I get then I was like That was fake.

01:13:36.979 --> 01:13:38.579
He didn't even hit him. I like, you know, I was

01:13:38.579 --> 01:13:40.649
like this you know it just looks so much different

01:13:40.649 --> 01:13:43.289
you're so close yeah and instead of me falling

01:13:43.289 --> 01:13:45.989
in love with the the storylines anymore i was

01:13:45.989 --> 01:13:48.510
just like i was hurt by how fake it was i wanted

01:13:48.510 --> 01:13:51.930
to be so so hard that you know this is real and

01:13:51.930 --> 01:13:54.430
people are doing this you know but i guess you

01:13:54.430 --> 01:13:55.829
can't really be that physical with people all

01:13:55.829 --> 01:14:00.489
the time and you know but as a kid you you fantasize

01:14:00.489 --> 01:14:02.069
that when you see this in real life it's going

01:14:02.069 --> 01:14:04.609
to be all that you think it is on tv and it's

01:14:04.619 --> 01:14:06.619
Really not when you're that close you see everything

01:14:06.619 --> 01:14:08.239
that's happening. You see it when you're so close

01:14:08.239 --> 01:14:12.340
to see it at all. So Yeah Yeah, what was your

01:14:12.340 --> 01:14:15.960
personal question? Well, I was gonna ask you

01:14:15.960 --> 01:14:18.159
Since WrestleMania is this weekend and I don't

01:14:18.159 --> 01:14:20.560
follow it very close anymore. I try to watch

01:14:20.560 --> 01:14:23.659
the Royal Rumble Once a year, but yeah some of

01:14:23.659 --> 01:14:25.300
those moves when they got him down on the mat

01:14:25.300 --> 01:14:27.260
and they're in a kicking motion And you're like

01:14:27.260 --> 01:14:29.279
me you're not even coming close to that guy's

01:14:29.279 --> 01:14:32.460
chest And it's like you see I see you doing the

01:14:32.460 --> 01:14:35.069
stomp with the other foot Don't try to fool me

01:14:35.069 --> 01:14:39.149
on that but like some of the chops The chops

01:14:39.149 --> 01:14:43.510
are definitely real and oh, yeah But I was gonna

01:14:43.510 --> 01:14:45.729
ask you know if we did get in the ring me and

01:14:45.729 --> 01:14:47.949
you and we were trying to put on a show for the

01:14:47.949 --> 01:14:52.189
for the fans the the paying audience and I'm

01:14:52.189 --> 01:14:54.210
just there to do a job. Okay, you're the you're

01:14:54.210 --> 01:14:59.210
the star you're the you're the heel maybe yeah,

01:14:59.210 --> 01:15:02.130
I'm just trying to get you over and What kind

01:15:02.130 --> 01:15:03.890
of so you've been knocking me around I've been

01:15:03.890 --> 01:15:06.989
taking my bumps the whole match What what kind

01:15:06.989 --> 01:15:08.670
of finishing move would you put me in? Would

01:15:08.670 --> 01:15:14.409
you go for like a DDT a choke slam? Maybe or

01:15:14.409 --> 01:15:17.109
was lesson to do that the f5 would you maybe

01:15:17.109 --> 01:15:21.970
spearhead tackle? Good finishing move. I think

01:15:21.970 --> 01:15:24.930
anything off the top ropes off the buckle is

01:15:24.930 --> 01:15:30.520
a good finishing move Backflips How about when

01:15:30.520 --> 01:15:32.939
you've like not me around and I'm kind of like

01:15:32.939 --> 01:15:35.800
spinning around light on my on my feet You know

01:15:35.800 --> 01:15:38.119
cuz you just been like pounding me and so I'm

01:15:38.119 --> 01:15:39.939
like walking in circles and it gives you enough

01:15:39.939 --> 01:15:43.979
time to climb up to the top turnbuckle and Jump

01:15:43.979 --> 01:15:46.619
off and hit me with both hands both hands or

01:15:46.619 --> 01:15:51.340
do a big a frogs frog splash maybe if I could

01:15:51.340 --> 01:15:55.649
somehow land into a flip off the ropes and I've

01:15:55.649 --> 01:15:57.010
seen where they slide down the person's back

01:15:57.010 --> 01:15:59.170
and they flip them over maybe like a suplex hold

01:15:59.170 --> 01:16:01.010
pinion a suplex with your shoulders to the ground

01:16:01.010 --> 01:16:02.930
and your feet up in the air Yeah, I think that

01:16:02.930 --> 01:16:05.010
would be exciting and then I got I got a kick

01:16:05.010 --> 01:16:07.289
Like the whole time that they're doing the count

01:16:07.289 --> 01:16:09.250
one two three count like i'm gonna get out of

01:16:09.250 --> 01:16:12.399
it, but I got no chance Yeah, and I don't think

01:16:12.399 --> 01:16:14.159
a lot of people notice about our height difference,

01:16:14.239 --> 01:16:16.119
you know, I think you've got me by almost a foot

01:16:16.119 --> 01:16:18.619
So as our friend Jim likes to point out, it's

01:16:18.619 --> 01:16:20.640
the funniest picture. We've been taking a standing

01:16:20.640 --> 01:16:22.939
side by side Then that makes it even a better

01:16:22.939 --> 01:16:25.359
picture seeing me hold you up and being up in

01:16:25.359 --> 01:16:27.119
the air like that would be pretty entertaining.

01:16:27.539 --> 01:16:32.119
Oh, yeah Wow, we'll probably never get that chance

01:16:32.119 --> 01:16:35.880
but I Always wonder what it's like hurt something.

01:16:36.380 --> 01:16:39.979
I always wonder what it's like for those wrestlers

01:16:39.979 --> 01:16:43.199
who are Who are there to basically just take

01:16:43.199 --> 01:16:46.260
a beating and make that star look good. Yeah

01:16:46.260 --> 01:16:49.260
All right. I want to say I wonder if some of

01:16:49.260 --> 01:16:50.880
those wrestlers do it so they told it, you know,

01:16:50.899 --> 01:16:52.680
they pay they do they're having a sound light

01:16:52.680 --> 01:16:55.039
or They're just making they're there for the

01:16:55.039 --> 01:16:57.380
paycheck. They know that they are not the you

01:16:57.380 --> 01:17:00.840
know, they're not the main character, but they're

01:17:00.840 --> 01:17:02.220
They're there because they like to do it. You

01:17:02.220 --> 01:17:04.140
know, some people just like to be a part of something

01:17:04.140 --> 01:17:07.340
greater themselves. So I'm sure there's different

01:17:07.340 --> 01:17:11.280
different ways you can look at it. Mm -hmm Okay.

01:17:11.280 --> 01:17:13.739
Well, how about, and we may have to wrap up here,

01:17:13.840 --> 01:17:18.239
but are you at, are you at peace with Nick Saban

01:17:18.239 --> 01:17:20.899
and his decision to retire? I think the more

01:17:20.899 --> 01:17:23.640
I think about it, I'm good with it. I just want

01:17:23.640 --> 01:17:25.680
to, I want to know that he's good with it. And

01:17:25.680 --> 01:17:29.239
I'm not convinced yet that he's good with it.

01:17:29.760 --> 01:17:31.739
I really, I really felt like this year should

01:17:31.739 --> 01:17:33.420
have been a year here retired because they were

01:17:33.420 --> 01:17:36.680
so close. Um, I feel like Saban could have stayed

01:17:36.680 --> 01:17:38.579
one more year. It kind of announced, you know,

01:17:38.619 --> 01:17:42.079
Hey, this is my final year. I don't know maybe

01:17:42.079 --> 01:17:43.720
he did it this way so it wouldn't be so much

01:17:43.720 --> 01:17:47.539
you know um attention on him you know I think

01:17:47.539 --> 01:17:50.380
he did it the way that he felt was best for the

01:17:50.380 --> 01:17:51.880
players so you know the whole season wouldn't

01:17:51.880 --> 01:17:53.560
be like oh saving your time was you gonna do

01:17:53.560 --> 01:17:56.039
this game or are you still you know you know

01:17:56.039 --> 01:17:57.699
when you break you announce stuff like that everybody

01:17:57.699 --> 01:17:59.300
wants to ask you about it all the time it takes

01:17:59.300 --> 01:18:01.399
the attention away from what's really important

01:18:01.399 --> 01:18:03.520
and that's the players that's first and foremost

01:18:03.520 --> 01:18:06.100
is the players so I think the way he did it was

01:18:06.100 --> 01:18:08.560
you know well you know well thought out but I

01:18:08.560 --> 01:18:10.949
should have stayed one more year. I'm sorry,

01:18:10.989 --> 01:18:13.329
I'm good with it. I'm good. He seems happy. I

01:18:13.329 --> 01:18:16.590
know he bought that home out there in Florida

01:18:16.590 --> 01:18:19.609
and his wife seems to be happy. You know, when

01:18:19.609 --> 01:18:21.729
it comes down to it, you want to make sure that

01:18:21.729 --> 01:18:23.430
your family's happy too, especially as a man,

01:18:23.510 --> 01:18:26.310
you know. Being a breadwinner, you want to, you

01:18:26.310 --> 01:18:28.470
know, if your family's happy, then everything

01:18:28.470 --> 01:18:31.750
else should be okay. I feel like this is just

01:18:31.750 --> 01:18:35.390
me speculating, but I feel like Miss Terry probably

01:18:35.390 --> 01:18:38.420
had a lot of sway in that, maybe. I've heard

01:18:38.420 --> 01:18:40.319
those rumors, yeah. Maybe she wanted some Nick

01:18:40.319 --> 01:18:45.619
time. Oh, yeah. She started sharing them. Mm

01:18:45.619 --> 01:18:48.340
-hmm. I think he's been through a lot of programs,

01:18:48.479 --> 01:18:52.359
yeah. At some point, it's like, man, you made

01:18:52.359 --> 01:18:55.380
all this money. Mm -hmm. See, I kind of feel

01:18:55.380 --> 01:18:58.439
like he's going to get back in somewhere in some

01:18:58.439 --> 01:19:01.340
league. I don't really see him coaching in a

01:19:01.340 --> 01:19:03.520
spring league. I know Spurrier did that. Yeah.

01:19:03.520 --> 01:19:06.880
I thought it was a cool thing for Spurrier. Right.

01:19:07.039 --> 01:19:10.199
But I don't know, I don't really think he would

01:19:10.199 --> 01:19:14.640
go back to the NFL, but maybe he really is done.

01:19:14.859 --> 01:19:19.539
It's hard to say. If a year goes by and he's

01:19:19.539 --> 01:19:21.939
still not in coaching, then he's not going to.

01:19:22.100 --> 01:19:24.520
But I'd be real curious to see at the year mark

01:19:24.520 --> 01:19:27.439
from when he announced. The man has a statue.

01:19:28.600 --> 01:19:30.340
I don't know if there's any more accolades you

01:19:30.340 --> 01:19:32.180
can really get. I mean, you won these championships.

01:19:32.460 --> 01:19:34.560
You're compared as one of the greatest coaches

01:19:34.560 --> 01:19:37.770
to do it. You got a statue. I mean people have

01:19:37.770 --> 01:19:39.770
named their pets after you, you know, I mean

01:19:39.770 --> 01:19:44.029
it's it's uh, I Think you you know, maybe just

01:19:44.029 --> 01:19:46.329
want to sit back and enjoy it But if he comes

01:19:46.329 --> 01:19:47.869
back, I'm gonna be there, you know, I'm supporting

01:19:47.869 --> 01:19:50.130
no matter what he does as long as it's not Auburn,

01:19:50.229 --> 01:19:54.750
you know, I'm good. I don't care But uh, yeah,

01:19:55.149 --> 01:19:57.430
I just I hope he's happy with this decision.

01:19:57.430 --> 01:20:00.810
He doesn't regret it. I Just I feel like he's

01:20:00.810 --> 01:20:04.510
gonna recharge the batteries Years gonna go by

01:20:04.510 --> 01:20:08.329
and he's gonna be like man. I I feel fresh. I

01:20:08.329 --> 01:20:14.029
miss it I'm not I mean, yeah, he's 70 3 you think

01:20:14.029 --> 01:20:19.090
71 so yeah, it's not too old Mm -hmm. I think

01:20:19.090 --> 01:20:21.789
we just kind of we still look at people like

01:20:21.789 --> 01:20:24.609
oh if you're over 70, then you're kind of We

01:20:24.609 --> 01:20:27.369
need to like shut you down like you're not capable.

01:20:27.489 --> 01:20:30.850
Yeah, I don't know. I mean like 85. Yeah, but

01:20:32.049 --> 01:20:37.810
He's in pretty good shape. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Be

01:20:37.810 --> 01:20:40.609
interesting to see. Yeah, I was just thinking

01:20:40.609 --> 01:20:44.510
about Alabama football. You mentioned, you asked

01:20:44.510 --> 01:20:48.489
me about it before. One of my greatest sports

01:20:48.489 --> 01:20:52.310
plays that I remember or one of my favorite sports

01:20:52.310 --> 01:20:55.109
plays that ever happened, it was Alabama. It

01:20:55.109 --> 01:21:00.550
was the 92 championship when they played Miami.

01:21:00.630 --> 01:21:03.750
Yes. and George C. walked down, I can't remember

01:21:03.750 --> 01:21:05.930
the receiver's name right now, walks him down,

01:21:05.989 --> 01:21:09.130
took the ball out of his hands, and ran back

01:21:09.130 --> 01:21:11.949
the other way. Of course, they didn't count the

01:21:11.949 --> 01:21:14.590
yards because of whatever the penalty was, but

01:21:14.590 --> 01:21:17.970
I've never seen anybody walk somebody down, take

01:21:17.970 --> 01:21:19.890
the ball from him, and then go back the opposite

01:21:19.890 --> 01:21:22.329
way. I was 12 years old when that happened, and

01:21:22.329 --> 01:21:25.149
my whole world was just, I couldn't make sense

01:21:25.149 --> 01:21:26.609
of it. I was like, did everybody just hit it?

01:21:26.729 --> 01:21:28.189
I've never seen somebody, you know, take a ball

01:21:28.189 --> 01:21:29.670
from somebody in the game and go back the other

01:21:29.670 --> 01:21:32.260
way. And that was just like, OK, I'm about my

01:21:32.260 --> 01:21:34.239
fan for life. And I was like, that was my defining

01:21:34.239 --> 01:21:36.199
moment is definitely being a Bama fan. I was

01:21:36.199 --> 01:21:37.680
rooting for a team and they did some amazing.

01:21:37.779 --> 01:21:40.020
And I was like, OK, I'm all in, even at 12 years

01:21:40.020 --> 01:21:42.619
old. But that's probably one of my most defining,

01:21:42.979 --> 01:21:45.399
one of my favorite memories of sports games.

01:21:45.720 --> 01:21:47.819
I got some more, but that one's probably the

01:21:47.819 --> 01:21:49.979
first I can remember when I really started to

01:21:49.979 --> 01:21:52.279
fall in love with sports, to see big plays and,

01:21:52.279 --> 01:21:54.100
you know, started to really fall with a team

01:21:54.100 --> 01:21:56.000
that had a following and a culture behind it.

01:21:56.859 --> 01:22:01.720
So, yeah, that play. Remember now I had the the

01:22:01.720 --> 01:22:05.760
poster on my wall and Had a poster of it. Yeah,

01:22:05.760 --> 01:22:10.659
if you look up George T the strip in the background

01:22:10.659 --> 01:22:14.960
is the Miami bench and specifically the Miami

01:22:14.960 --> 01:22:18.500
cheerleaders and Here's I'll never I just pulled

01:22:18.500 --> 01:22:21.479
it back up as we're talking One of the cheerleaders

01:22:21.479 --> 01:22:25.600
in the back left shot of the frame It's just

01:22:25.600 --> 01:22:29.199
like this. Oh, no, you've got it because he sees

01:22:29.199 --> 01:22:35.319
what has just happened Man that was something

01:22:35.319 --> 01:22:39.380
else we were We were at that game That's the

01:22:39.380 --> 01:22:42.060
only championship game that I think I've attended

01:22:42.060 --> 01:22:44.659
in my life on that level. I've never been when

01:22:44.659 --> 01:22:49.489
you at that game. Yep. Oh wow Yeah, that's the

01:22:49.489 --> 01:22:52.090
only only Bama championship game I've been to

01:22:52.090 --> 01:22:54.109
and I don't I've never I've been to some playoff

01:22:54.109 --> 01:22:58.210
games for Major League Baseball, but Mm -hmm.

01:22:58.529 --> 01:23:00.930
What a moment. I see I see that your leader.

01:23:00.930 --> 01:23:04.590
I see it. Just look it up. Yeah, she is not happy

01:23:04.590 --> 01:23:08.050
They I mean Miami was pretty confident going

01:23:08.050 --> 01:23:11.310
into that game. Oh Yeah, they talked a lot of

01:23:11.310 --> 01:23:13.930
noise. They hadn't faced a defense like ours

01:23:13.930 --> 01:23:19.570
Mm -hmm. Not even close. Yeah that receiver Lamar

01:23:19.570 --> 01:23:21.829
Thomas. He was talking to most noise. He was

01:23:21.829 --> 01:23:23.010
one of the biggest talkers. That's why I was

01:23:23.010 --> 01:23:26.409
so excited to see that happen to him. Fegan Langham

01:23:26.409 --> 01:23:28.350
was chasing him. I remember Langham. It was Antonio

01:23:28.350 --> 01:23:31.289
Langham, George Higg, yeah. Oh my god. I'm gonna

01:23:31.289 --> 01:23:34.390
have to order this as a poster now, yeah. Trey,

01:23:34.430 --> 01:23:36.770
I cannot wait till we can get together and hang

01:23:36.770 --> 01:23:41.350
out and... Hell yeah, man. Grill some steaks

01:23:41.350 --> 01:23:43.770
and a few, well, actually a few short bunts.

01:23:43.789 --> 01:23:47.109
We'll see each other again. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

01:23:47.109 --> 01:23:52.189
Draft. Our league is the only league that I don't

01:23:52.189 --> 01:23:54.250
pay to be I had two other leagues I play in now

01:23:54.250 --> 01:23:56.229
and because of y 'all I've started begging into

01:23:56.229 --> 01:23:58.550
it the other two leagues I'm in I've won one

01:23:58.550 --> 01:24:00.649
back -to -back years and the other one I finished

01:24:00.649 --> 01:24:03.609
second place this league I can I just can't get

01:24:03.609 --> 01:24:05.630
it. I don't know. I can't figure out my rhythm

01:24:05.630 --> 01:24:07.750
Yeah, I don't know maybe because people more

01:24:07.750 --> 01:24:09.189
competitive in this they you think money leave

01:24:09.189 --> 01:24:10.409
you'd be more competitive I think what people

01:24:10.409 --> 01:24:12.930
start losing they kind of lose focus because

01:24:12.930 --> 01:24:14.289
they have money involved in that one I go any

01:24:14.289 --> 01:24:18.780
money, but in this league it's all about The

01:24:18.780 --> 01:24:22.560
prestige the bragging rights. Oh man, and so

01:24:22.560 --> 01:24:25.039
people have more more into it than just money,

01:24:25.060 --> 01:24:27.939
you know You don't want to be last cuz you everybody

01:24:27.939 --> 01:24:29.380
knows each other and you don't want to be the

01:24:29.380 --> 01:24:33.199
one next year Everybody talks about so maybe

01:24:33.199 --> 01:24:35.939
that's what it is. That's right Do you want your

01:24:35.939 --> 01:24:38.680
name etched on that trophy? And you want you

01:24:38.680 --> 01:24:41.300
want that trophy in your house on your mantle?

01:24:42.640 --> 01:24:49.300
Yes All right. I'm glad I took you up on your

01:24:49.300 --> 01:24:52.640
offer. Absolutely. We got to do it again. I've

01:24:52.640 --> 01:24:55.380
had Jim back. He's been on the show three times.

01:24:56.220 --> 01:24:58.859
Maybe too many times. But keep him on the shelf

01:24:58.859 --> 01:25:02.100
for a while. It's just not fair to everybody

01:25:02.100 --> 01:25:06.600
else. But definitely let's... You should do a

01:25:06.600 --> 01:25:08.920
special edition during the draft and have like

01:25:08.920 --> 01:25:11.100
all of us just kind of do a panel. We just all

01:25:11.100 --> 01:25:13.729
talk. All right. Well, so since you mentioned

01:25:13.729 --> 01:25:18.689
that we I do have some some unreleased footage

01:25:18.689 --> 01:25:22.649
Not video but audio. I captured some of the guys

01:25:22.649 --> 01:25:26.010
at last year's draft in August. I still have

01:25:26.010 --> 01:25:29.310
I've still got the files on my computer. I've

01:25:29.310 --> 01:25:32.310
never once listened to them. I haven't tried

01:25:32.310 --> 01:25:35.470
never thought about putting them out there, but

01:25:35.470 --> 01:25:39.590
Maybe that would be a bonus episode. Yeah That

01:25:39.590 --> 01:25:44.649
may be a comment on our own audio. Yeah Something

01:25:44.649 --> 01:25:47.189
like that is gonna be not just a bonus for everybody

01:25:47.189 --> 01:25:50.510
that's gonna be You got to unlock some doors

01:25:50.510 --> 01:25:56.970
to get to it Hmm. Yeah All right. Hey Trey anything

01:25:56.970 --> 01:26:07.310
else that you want to plug today? Good time Loved

01:26:07.310 --> 01:26:09.310
every minute of it and hope we didn't spend too

01:26:09.310 --> 01:26:12.390
much time on the silly stuff. But it's good.

01:26:12.390 --> 01:26:14.250
I like it I don't know where those questions

01:26:14.250 --> 01:26:21.270
come from but It's good Yes, so we've had We

01:26:21.270 --> 01:26:24.090
call it trap time two weeks in a row, but it's

01:26:24.090 --> 01:26:26.789
really trade time today But man those where else

01:26:26.789 --> 01:26:29.109
are you gonna be listening to a podcast? We're

01:26:29.109 --> 01:26:31.369
the last two guests are not both named Travis,

01:26:31.430 --> 01:26:36.920
but it's tra di and then You get that far into

01:26:36.920 --> 01:26:40.859
the name. This is it. Thanks for being here,

01:26:41.039 --> 01:26:43.960
Trey. Thanks for having me. Proud to call you

01:26:43.960 --> 01:26:47.000
a friend and have this conversation with you

01:26:47.000 --> 01:26:51.460
today was a special thrill. I'm not kidding about

01:26:51.460 --> 01:26:55.859
that. Oh, yeah. All right. Well, you guys, everybody

01:26:55.859 --> 01:26:59.300
listening in the Daniverse or you've been in

01:26:59.300 --> 01:27:03.699
the Daniverse today, it's really the Trey -verse.

01:27:04.199 --> 01:27:07.750
No, that's not. I like to say Trey Day sometimes.

01:27:09.729 --> 01:27:13.630
Like, Trey Day, Trey Day. It's been Trey Day

01:27:13.630 --> 01:27:17.670
today and we don't want this day to end, as you

01:27:17.670 --> 01:27:21.510
can see. Alright, Trey and everybody listening,

01:27:22.329 --> 01:27:26.090
it's important to, you know, foster a good network

01:27:26.090 --> 01:27:29.130
of friends, hang on to people, get to know people.

01:27:29.229 --> 01:27:31.449
There's something to be said about years -long

01:27:31.449 --> 01:27:34.369
friendships. If you got kids, spend some time

01:27:34.369 --> 01:27:36.869
with them, goof around with them. Hope you took

01:27:36.869 --> 01:27:40.170
something from this episode and have a great

01:27:40.170 --> 01:27:43.069
week. We'll see you next Sunday on the Dan Time

01:27:43.069 --> 01:27:46.369
podcast. Thank you, Trey. Thank you, Danimal.

01:27:47.130 --> 01:27:47.729
See you soon.