WEBVTT 00:00:04.040 --> 00:00:06.860 One of my favorite conversations of this podcast, 00:00:06.980 --> 00:00:10.400 Coming Your Way, a great guy, a great songwriter 00:00:10.400 --> 00:00:13.580 who knows just how to speak to everyday human 00:00:13.580 --> 00:00:17.780 emotions. Uh, you're getting a new Dan today 00:00:17.780 --> 00:00:22.480 to add to your music collection. Dan Zlotnik, 00:00:23.120 --> 00:00:27.280 Z -L -O -T -N -I -C -K. If you're a fan of rock 00:00:27.280 --> 00:00:29.500 and roll music, that's all I'll say. If you're 00:00:29.500 --> 00:00:31.579 a fan of rock and roll written from the heart, 00:00:31.870 --> 00:00:34.929 played from the heart, sung from the heart, you 00:00:34.929 --> 00:00:37.310 are in the right place, my friend. We're going 00:00:37.310 --> 00:00:40.270 to preview one of Dan's latest songs, Treasure 00:00:40.270 --> 00:00:42.710 Treasure, right before the start of this episode. 00:00:43.049 --> 00:00:45.750 And if you stick around for the entire conversation, 00:00:45.850 --> 00:00:49.289 which I hope you will, Dan brings out his acoustic 00:00:49.289 --> 00:00:53.990 guitar for the first ever Dan Time Live Performance, 00:00:54.670 --> 00:00:58.390 a three song set featuring a few of his live 00:00:58.390 --> 00:01:02.119 set standards. You can find Dan Zlotnick's music 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:05.219 wherever you download music. He's also featured 00:01:05.219 --> 00:01:08.359 on the Christine Chanel single, Happier. And 00:01:08.359 --> 00:01:11.120 finally, Dan wrote the theme song for the acclaimed 00:01:11.120 --> 00:01:15.019 New York Yankees podcast, Talkin' Yanks, featuring 00:01:15.019 --> 00:01:18.980 John Boy and Talkin' Jake. They recap every series, 00:01:19.280 --> 00:01:22.200 break down every roster move. If you call yourself 00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:25.640 a Yankee fan, this is a must add to your podcast 00:01:25.640 --> 00:01:29.280 rotation. All right. Let's check it out, treasure 00:01:29.280 --> 00:01:32.760 treasure, and then get to the conversation, folks. 00:01:33.739 --> 00:01:51.209 It is Dan Zlotnik time. Air Force said I'll report 00:01:51.209 --> 00:01:55.590 in about a year So I aimed my bike at the Florida 00:01:55.590 --> 00:02:01.170 Keys and I revved it into gear Treasure, treasure, 00:02:02.290 --> 00:02:07.409 you can't hide I'll find treasure in a twenty 00:02:07.409 --> 00:02:28.830 hour ride Fisher said there's sunken treasure 00:02:28.830 --> 00:02:33.750 here. It's the Spanish Bodatocha, and I can't 00:02:33.750 --> 00:02:37.430 help him die. I'm not sure that I believe him, 00:02:37.430 --> 00:02:42.930 but it might be worth a try. Treasure, treasure, 00:02:43.889 --> 00:02:49.509 you can't hide. I'll find treasure in slice key 00:02:49.509 --> 00:02:57.599 lime. Okay everybody, welcome once again to another 00:02:57.599 --> 00:03:01.300 episode of the Dan Time podcast. I'm your host, 00:03:01.500 --> 00:03:05.360 Dan McCardle. We have reached episode number 00:03:05.360 --> 00:03:09.599 30. Number 30, there was a time not too long 00:03:09.599 --> 00:03:12.960 ago, where does the time go? I was just on episode 00:03:12.960 --> 00:03:15.840 three, now we're at 30, and this thing is still 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:19.259 plugging along. I appreciate all of you dedicated 00:03:19.259 --> 00:03:23.659 long time Dan Time listeners. you are in for 00:03:23.659 --> 00:03:27.060 a special episode tonight. When I created this 00:03:27.060 --> 00:03:30.319 podcast on the hosting platform, you have to 00:03:30.319 --> 00:03:32.719 excuse me, I'm getting over a cold tonight, but 00:03:32.719 --> 00:03:36.360 I had to select a couple categories of how I 00:03:36.360 --> 00:03:39.240 wanted to promote the episode, some some tag 00:03:39.240 --> 00:03:44.180 words. And so I picked music interviews and baseball. 00:03:44.879 --> 00:03:47.840 And I thought, well, you know, maybe maybe one 00:03:47.840 --> 00:03:52.699 time we'll line up those two perfectly and Today 00:03:52.699 --> 00:03:55.219 we kind of have this is like a dream episode 00:03:55.219 --> 00:03:59.500 for me To have someone representing both backgrounds 00:03:59.500 --> 00:04:05.020 and also I want to emphasize One of the purposes 00:04:05.020 --> 00:04:09.259 of this podcast is to hopefully be an algorithm 00:04:09.259 --> 00:04:12.120 buster For some of you people who are always 00:04:12.120 --> 00:04:15.599 looking to discover new music But you're just 00:04:15.599 --> 00:04:17.839 kind of being led down the same road. I mean 00:04:17.839 --> 00:04:20.709 some of the stuff Like on Spotify where it's 00:04:20.709 --> 00:04:22.790 if you like this artist you're gonna love this 00:04:22.790 --> 00:04:25.170 artist or these groups of artists That that's 00:04:25.170 --> 00:04:29.370 all good, but I always like Just getting a surprise 00:04:29.370 --> 00:04:31.430 Recommendation from a friend or something like 00:04:31.430 --> 00:04:34.910 that. So here's what we're doing tonight First 00:04:34.910 --> 00:04:37.709 of all, if you listen the past two weeks That 00:04:37.709 --> 00:04:40.589 was some silly season. Maybe that was much needed 00:04:40.589 --> 00:04:43.209 But we're back on the dance and I could not be 00:04:43.209 --> 00:04:46.470 happier to introduce to you tonight Westchester 00:04:46.779 --> 00:04:50.459 County, New York based singer songwriter, Dan 00:04:50.459 --> 00:04:53.819 Zlotnik. Dan, how are you doing tonight, man? 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:56.300 Thanks for being here. I'm very excited to be 00:04:56.300 --> 00:04:58.439 a part of this. I've been a Dan my whole life 00:04:58.439 --> 00:05:01.959 and I'm excited to be another participant on 00:05:01.959 --> 00:05:05.560 this podcast. Thanks for having me. Well, first 00:05:05.560 --> 00:05:08.500 of all, folks, I always like plugging other people 00:05:08.500 --> 00:05:11.819 and what they're doing. Please check out the 00:05:11.819 --> 00:05:16.550 Sisters in Song podcast for kind of a really 00:05:16.550 --> 00:05:20.389 good general background on Dan Zlotnik. Sisters 00:05:20.389 --> 00:05:22.870 in Song. Wherever you download podcasts, you 00:05:22.870 --> 00:05:25.629 can pull that up. I thoroughly enjoyed it. That's 00:05:25.629 --> 00:05:28.189 Bethany and Carolyn. And they put on a really 00:05:28.189 --> 00:05:31.470 good production there. But how did I find Dan? 00:05:31.889 --> 00:05:34.930 That was a question that he asked me. And rightfully 00:05:34.930 --> 00:05:37.209 so. I've been asked a few times, you know, thanks 00:05:37.209 --> 00:05:40.290 for the invitation. Oh, by the way, where did 00:05:40.290 --> 00:05:43.360 you find me? And this is actually a new technique, 00:05:43.519 --> 00:05:47.439 Dan. I have not employed this until now. I used 00:05:47.439 --> 00:05:50.639 to just Google songwriters and Dan and then very, 00:05:50.639 --> 00:05:54.040 you know, different Danny's and Daniella and 00:05:54.040 --> 00:05:56.860 so forth. And I thought, well, why don't I just 00:05:56.860 --> 00:05:58.980 get on my music platform and start searching 00:05:58.980 --> 00:06:01.160 Dan and then the first letter, you know, there's 00:06:01.160 --> 00:06:06.060 only 26 chances or you could. So I got to the 00:06:06.060 --> 00:06:09.519 Z's and again, even though I find a Dan, cause 00:06:09.519 --> 00:06:12.339 there's plenty, there's some. You can find a 00:06:12.339 --> 00:06:15.379 bunch of them that way. I got to kind of find 00:06:15.379 --> 00:06:18.000 something with the music that, that grabs a hold 00:06:18.000 --> 00:06:20.779 of me. And then I go from there. So that's how 00:06:20.779 --> 00:06:23.360 I discovered Dan Slotnick searching Dan and the 00:06:23.360 --> 00:06:29.519 letter Z. And then I was one song in to DZB 2023. 00:06:29.660 --> 00:06:32.759 And I said, that's it. I got to get, I got to 00:06:32.759 --> 00:06:35.620 get these fingers tapping and send him an email. 00:06:36.159 --> 00:06:37.959 Another thing, if you're listening to this show 00:06:37.959 --> 00:06:40.139 and I have reached out to you and you're thinking, 00:06:40.420 --> 00:06:43.240 what is this? Who is this guy? What is this email? 00:06:43.519 --> 00:06:46.699 These are not AI generated emails. I actually 00:06:46.699 --> 00:06:50.259 sit down and personally invite you. So Dan, I'm 00:06:50.259 --> 00:06:52.279 talking way too much. This is your hour. This 00:06:52.279 --> 00:06:58.639 is your moment. Let's talk real quick about DZB 00:06:58.639 --> 00:07:03.680 2023. I want to tell you something, man. It is 00:07:03.680 --> 00:07:07.019 so cool. to hear a live album from a new artist 00:07:07.019 --> 00:07:09.459 that you've never heard before and your introduction 00:07:09.459 --> 00:07:12.279 to him is a live record. How'd you decide to 00:07:12.279 --> 00:07:16.319 do that? Well that's really cool. I'm glad that 00:07:16.319 --> 00:07:19.040 you like it and I really appreciate it. It came 00:07:19.040 --> 00:07:22.519 from the fact that I really feel like my band 00:07:22.519 --> 00:07:26.639 and I are a live band. The majority of my income, 00:07:26.759 --> 00:07:30.720 the majority of my time is spent performing and 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:33.040 we have so much fun live and we also have created 00:07:33.040 --> 00:07:36.639 such a great community of fans and friends and 00:07:36.639 --> 00:07:40.319 family that come out to see us. So I said, why 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:44.180 don't we celebrate this and kind of capture these 00:07:44.180 --> 00:07:48.160 moments? So the album, the first idea that I 00:07:48.160 --> 00:07:50.959 had for the album was to take our show at Darrell's 00:07:50.959 --> 00:07:53.680 House Club in Pauling, New York and just release 00:07:53.680 --> 00:07:56.980 that show. And then it kind of occurred to me 00:07:56.980 --> 00:07:59.300 that sometimes we play as a trio, sometimes we 00:07:59.300 --> 00:08:02.420 play as a four piece band. And what if we captured 00:08:02.930 --> 00:08:04.709 uh show when we were playing as a four -piece 00:08:04.709 --> 00:08:07.410 band and so we played this outdoor summer concert 00:08:07.410 --> 00:08:10.970 series actually it was in the fall at uh lasdin 00:08:10.970 --> 00:08:14.889 park in katona with my four -piece band and i 00:08:14.889 --> 00:08:17.350 figured let's put this together it's a real snapshot 00:08:17.350 --> 00:08:21.389 of what this band is in the year of 2023 and 00:08:21.389 --> 00:08:23.970 so it's 23 tracks split down the middle from 00:08:23.970 --> 00:08:27.129 those two shows and um you know it was a fun 00:08:27.129 --> 00:08:31.949 way to share songs that We had recorded in more 00:08:31.949 --> 00:08:34.929 of the acoustic demo way and you know, we play 00:08:34.929 --> 00:08:37.070 it live with electric guitars and drums and that 00:08:37.070 --> 00:08:39.990 sort of thing. So it was just a fun exercise 00:08:39.990 --> 00:08:41.929 and seeing how we could present these songs. 00:08:42.669 --> 00:08:44.389 You know what I really like and what kind of 00:08:44.389 --> 00:08:48.269 grabbed me right away was for me, it took me 00:08:48.269 --> 00:08:51.850 back about 20 years and not so much in like the 00:08:51.850 --> 00:08:54.970 song or the songs. It's not like the songs sound 00:08:54.970 --> 00:08:57.429 like they're from the 90s. It's kind of my personal 00:08:57.429 --> 00:09:01.200 connection to it of Growing up downtown Birmingham, 00:09:01.559 --> 00:09:04.720 coming of age, Five Points South was the district, 00:09:04.860 --> 00:09:06.480 kind of the entertainment district back then 00:09:06.480 --> 00:09:09.019 that I would see some live acts. And it just 00:09:09.019 --> 00:09:12.899 reminded me of stuff like Brother Kane, Government 00:09:12.899 --> 00:09:15.679 Mule, Warren Haynes, I think some of his playing 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:18.679 from the Allman Brothers. I can hear it. And 00:09:18.679 --> 00:09:22.519 it also reminded me of being, well, actually 00:09:22.519 --> 00:09:26.309 back to like 17, 18, 19. and going on a road 00:09:26.309 --> 00:09:28.610 trip with some friends or driving down to the 00:09:28.610 --> 00:09:32.669 coast. And back then I would put on once I grabbed 00:09:32.669 --> 00:09:35.370 like a handful of CDs. I wouldn't take the whole 00:09:35.370 --> 00:09:37.370 case logic. I would say, all right, I will grab 00:09:37.370 --> 00:09:40.289 six CDs in the jewel case. And this is going 00:09:40.289 --> 00:09:42.090 to be the this is going to be for this trip. 00:09:42.830 --> 00:09:47.029 And Dan, I'm speaking to my listeners, too. Folks, 00:09:47.269 --> 00:09:51.590 DZB 2023, if you hit play on last train and you're 00:09:51.590 --> 00:09:53.929 heading somewhere this weekend. For a couple 00:09:53.929 --> 00:09:55.970 hours. You're gonna be on the road. This is a 00:09:55.970 --> 00:10:00.350 road trip Album, man. I love it. It's like thank 00:10:00.350 --> 00:10:03.529 you, you know if you're It's monday as we're 00:10:03.529 --> 00:10:06.149 recording this if you're you got a 45 minute 00:10:06.149 --> 00:10:09.730 drive to work Uh, you got some stuff going on 00:10:09.730 --> 00:10:12.690 some things in on your mind It's been a difficult 00:10:12.690 --> 00:10:15.490 time for you put this on and you'll be in a great 00:10:15.490 --> 00:10:20.529 mood right away uh Dan I love uh when songwriters 00:10:20.529 --> 00:10:24.639 can infuse their own Brand of humor into their 00:10:24.639 --> 00:10:28.860 songwriting karaoke in Koreatown Some of the 00:10:28.860 --> 00:10:33.700 lines here. I mean out of tune cocoon just hilarious 00:10:33.700 --> 00:10:39.179 if you've Been to one karaoke bar one night You've 00:10:39.179 --> 00:10:41.120 been to a mall. I don't know. It's it's a lot 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:43.080 of a lot of times It's the same scene if you 00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:45.940 jumped in on it yourself You know exactly what 00:10:45.940 --> 00:10:49.360 he's talking about and I love that stuff. So 00:10:49.360 --> 00:10:51.600 some instant favorites for me last train, of 00:10:51.600 --> 00:10:54.190 course The guitar work on there is just incredible, 00:10:54.190 --> 00:10:57.730 Dan. Thank you. Power Lines was the one that 00:10:57.730 --> 00:11:01.269 took me back to how it felt for me being 24 years 00:11:01.269 --> 00:11:04.529 old watching a band play live in those years. 00:11:04.649 --> 00:11:08.750 It's just got a great classic rock, kind of mid 00:11:08.750 --> 00:11:12.830 90s groove to it. And on something like Power 00:11:12.830 --> 00:11:15.370 Lines, or is it the first 10 or 11 tracks where 00:11:15.370 --> 00:11:17.990 you guys were a three piece? Or is that with? 00:11:19.049 --> 00:11:20.850 Yes, and that was actually Power Lines was one 00:11:20.850 --> 00:11:24.990 of the songs that We even playing it live. We 00:11:24.990 --> 00:11:26.750 knew that we were recording the show, but you 00:11:26.750 --> 00:11:29.470 were playing it live. And I kind of look at my 00:11:29.470 --> 00:11:31.929 drummer, James, who is really big into those 00:11:31.929 --> 00:11:34.909 nineties, all rock bands. And we were in a band 00:11:34.909 --> 00:11:36.730 in high school that played a ton of Pearl Jam 00:11:36.730 --> 00:11:39.169 and Red Hot Chili Peppers and that sort of stuff. 00:11:39.610 --> 00:11:41.549 And so we finished Power Lines and we kind of 00:11:41.549 --> 00:11:43.330 look at each other and we go, well, that was 00:11:43.330 --> 00:11:45.669 pretty good. Maybe we should release this. And 00:11:45.669 --> 00:11:47.309 then after the show, we had some friends that 00:11:47.309 --> 00:11:49.529 were like that version of Power Lines. You got 00:11:49.529 --> 00:11:51.889 to get that out there. And so. It was kind of 00:11:51.889 --> 00:11:54.370 fun to have that, you know kind of spark that 00:11:54.370 --> 00:11:58.509 idea to to really release everything And again 00:11:58.509 --> 00:12:01.129 if you're Look sometimes people just like to 00:12:01.129 --> 00:12:03.269 put a playlist together and they want to put 00:12:03.269 --> 00:12:06.389 on like two or three Dan zlotnik songs to the 00:12:06.389 --> 00:12:08.409 playlist I would i'd really love for you to hear 00:12:08.409 --> 00:12:12.750 all 23 of them folks in a row Uh, you'll you'll 00:12:12.750 --> 00:12:14.509 get a lot of bang for your buck there because 00:12:14.509 --> 00:12:16.970 the further you get along You're gonna hit us 00:12:16.970 --> 00:12:20.429 hit a song like feeling it, too Man, I love feeling 00:12:20.429 --> 00:12:23.769 it, too Uh, the concept behind it, the four friends 00:12:23.769 --> 00:12:27.250 on the, on the couch. How did that one come together? 00:12:28.009 --> 00:12:30.289 Uh, I think on sisters in song, they may have 00:12:30.289 --> 00:12:32.570 already asked you, you know, did the lyrics come 00:12:32.570 --> 00:12:35.830 first? Is the melody come to you? What a special 00:12:35.830 --> 00:12:39.029 song, man. Thank you. Yeah. That, that song was, 00:12:39.450 --> 00:12:42.830 uh, it's a very personal song for me and my wife 00:12:42.830 --> 00:12:46.889 and our two friends, Eric and Mallory, who we 00:12:46.889 --> 00:12:50.799 kind of have these. bi -weekly or sometimes it 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:53.919 means monthly it's because of our schedules kind 00:12:53.919 --> 00:12:55.980 of dinner dates and we all just kind of hang 00:12:55.980 --> 00:13:01.179 out and we would tend to get past like the pleasantries 00:13:01.179 --> 00:13:04.159 and the how's everything going oh everything's 00:13:04.159 --> 00:13:07.580 good and you know in reality for pretty much 00:13:07.580 --> 00:13:11.679 everyone it's not all good and so you know we 00:13:11.679 --> 00:13:14.080 would have these nice talks after dinner about 00:13:14.080 --> 00:13:17.460 how's everything going and pretty much everything 00:13:17.460 --> 00:13:21.200 in the song is directly from a conversation that 00:13:21.200 --> 00:13:24.220 we've had so it was one of those where I had 00:13:24.220 --> 00:13:26.600 this idea and it was actually one of the very 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:29.080 few songs where I wrote on the piano even though 00:13:29.080 --> 00:13:32.120 I don't consider myself a piano player but I 00:13:32.120 --> 00:13:34.460 started with this kind of you know it almost 00:13:34.460 --> 00:13:37.220 became kind of like I shall be released this 00:13:37.220 --> 00:13:41.200 chord progression very kind of melodic and slow 00:13:41.200 --> 00:13:44.240 and grooving And then I transferred it over to 00:13:44.240 --> 00:13:45.840 the guitar and made it a little more complicated 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:48.960 than I could do on the piano. But yeah, that 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:52.240 idea of, you know, we're all going through stuff. 00:13:52.440 --> 00:13:54.539 We don't have to solve every problem in the world. 00:13:55.220 --> 00:13:57.879 And sometimes just getting it out there is what 00:13:57.879 --> 00:14:00.259 feels nice. And I think that's why sometimes 00:14:00.259 --> 00:14:02.679 if you listen to sad songs, it makes you feel 00:14:02.679 --> 00:14:05.399 better because it's just it's that feeling of 00:14:05.399 --> 00:14:10.480 community and being a part of the couch. Yeah, 00:14:10.480 --> 00:14:13.360 you have a way with your lyrics of putting people 00:14:13.360 --> 00:14:16.460 in a room that they're familiar with in a place 00:14:16.460 --> 00:14:20.120 I mean even in like karaoke in Koreatown the 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:23.980 lasagna that's frozen in the middle. I mean it's 00:14:23.980 --> 00:14:28.240 Or in this song in particular the TV's been stuck 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:31.679 on the menu all night as the heart I may be reading 00:14:31.679 --> 00:14:33.519 this wrong as the heart pumps the pain out your 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:37.539 mouth Yeah, that's right Would you have a real 00:14:37.539 --> 00:14:40.559 relatable delivery? And I guess when people see 00:14:40.559 --> 00:14:43.700 it live also too, they can follow along with 00:14:43.700 --> 00:14:46.200 you. Well, thank you. Yeah, that's actually one 00:14:46.200 --> 00:14:48.039 of the most important things to me when I'm writing 00:14:48.039 --> 00:14:51.659 a song is that I want people to get something 00:14:51.659 --> 00:14:54.360 out of it on the first listen. So it might not 00:14:54.360 --> 00:14:57.360 be the whole story that they're taking from it 00:14:57.360 --> 00:15:00.480 or it might not be the entire thing that I was 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:04.480 coming up with. But, you know, I grew up listening 00:15:04.480 --> 00:15:08.200 to Led Zeppelin and the Allman Brothers and Pink 00:15:08.200 --> 00:15:10.159 Floyd and these things that just kind of sounded 00:15:10.159 --> 00:15:15.000 so out of the ordinary. And I was really intimidated 00:15:15.000 --> 00:15:17.799 to write lyrics until I started listening to 00:15:17.799 --> 00:15:21.059 John Prine and the Avett Brothers and the Lumineers 00:15:21.059 --> 00:15:24.299 and Amos Lee and all these people who used fairly 00:15:24.299 --> 00:15:27.899 simple digestible language that you could really 00:15:27.899 --> 00:15:30.120 on the first time you listen to it kind of get 00:15:30.120 --> 00:15:32.100 the gist of the song. So that's something I try 00:15:32.100 --> 00:15:35.990 to do in my own writing for sure. Yeah, it's 00:15:35.990 --> 00:15:40.750 it's really inviting and I think that a songwriter 00:15:40.750 --> 00:15:43.769 it's I've only been introduced to you I guess 00:15:43.769 --> 00:15:46.570 in the past couple weeks and so I don't know 00:15:46.570 --> 00:15:49.509 the full package, but It's one thing to be a 00:15:49.509 --> 00:15:52.950 good songwriter and to record Music that connects 00:15:52.950 --> 00:15:55.929 with people, but you're a performer like I think 00:15:55.929 --> 00:15:58.970 you you really enjoy Getting out there and connecting 00:15:58.970 --> 00:16:00.990 with your audience, right? I mean do you see 00:16:00.990 --> 00:16:04.129 the looks on people's faces? Do you ever play 00:16:04.129 --> 00:16:07.070 a song? I didn't really think to ask of this 00:16:07.070 --> 00:16:09.289 beforehand, but do you ever play some of those 00:16:09.289 --> 00:16:11.289 songs that are pretty touching and you actually 00:16:11.289 --> 00:16:14.590 see a tear rolling down someone's cheek? And 00:16:14.590 --> 00:16:18.049 how does that make you feel? It's really amazing 00:16:18.049 --> 00:16:20.830 because I know that there's songs that do that 00:16:20.830 --> 00:16:23.370 to me and you know that other people have written 00:16:23.370 --> 00:16:27.929 so to know that I have connected with an audience 00:16:27.929 --> 00:16:30.980 member like that is really it's like a privilege 00:16:30.980 --> 00:16:33.480 to be able to do it and then to share that moment 00:16:33.480 --> 00:16:35.879 with people and I've had songs that I've kind 00:16:35.879 --> 00:16:38.720 of written that feel like I'm the only person 00:16:38.720 --> 00:16:41.100 who would ever get this and then I'll go perform 00:16:41.100 --> 00:16:43.720 it and people come up to me after the show and 00:16:43.720 --> 00:16:46.100 they talk about how it reminded them of their 00:16:46.100 --> 00:16:49.820 sister or their mother or you know there's that 00:16:49.820 --> 00:16:52.220 kind of deeper level of connection that is hard 00:16:52.220 --> 00:16:55.759 to do without performing them live in front of 00:16:55.759 --> 00:16:59.309 people so I definitely do Call myself a performer. 00:16:59.409 --> 00:17:01.850 I love getting out there and playing for people 00:17:01.850 --> 00:17:04.710 and and having those, you know person to person 00:17:04.710 --> 00:17:08.029 moments And I understand you and your bass player 00:17:08.029 --> 00:17:11.750 Al Himberger have he recorded your first studio 00:17:11.750 --> 00:17:15.029 record. Is that right? Yes He's recorded a bunch 00:17:15.029 --> 00:17:18.670 more too. So we've done my first EP together 00:17:18.670 --> 00:17:24.269 he did the bumpers album day three we recorded 00:17:24.269 --> 00:17:27.579 at a studio called prep sound in Queens, New 00:17:27.579 --> 00:17:31.160 York. But Al mixed it. And then a bunch of other 00:17:31.160 --> 00:17:34.099 stuff, singles here and there. And Al has come 00:17:34.099 --> 00:17:36.220 to my little home studio here and has helped 00:17:36.220 --> 00:17:39.680 me out here. So he's been a great, great engineer, 00:17:39.880 --> 00:17:44.099 great mentor, great friend, all the above. And 00:17:44.099 --> 00:17:47.140 bass player, of course. And we'll get into that 00:17:47.140 --> 00:17:50.640 also. You do a great cover of Hooked on a Feeling. 00:17:51.149 --> 00:17:53.710 That one I actually I played back -to -back today. 00:17:53.710 --> 00:17:57.190 I was like I gotta do it again Yeah, it's fun 00:17:57.190 --> 00:18:00.049 to get al involved with the uga shockers. He's 00:18:00.049 --> 00:18:06.609 yeah Gotta put them to work, you know I could 00:18:06.609 --> 00:18:08.690 talk about every track on here one last one I 00:18:08.690 --> 00:18:10.430 want to mention just because I've got a baby 00:18:10.430 --> 00:18:13.170 girl and I was gonna ask I know you're a new 00:18:13.170 --> 00:18:18.150 dad to a relatively new dad the bottom line I 00:18:18.150 --> 00:18:19.789 Think this is one of the better tracks and it's 00:18:19.789 --> 00:18:22.400 on the bottom the bottom quarter of the album 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:24.880 i think it's like number 20 maybe the bottom 00:18:24.880 --> 00:18:29.539 line welcome to the world baby girl be kind to 00:18:29.539 --> 00:18:31.960 yourself it's hard to do that's probably one 00:18:31.960 --> 00:18:35.880 of my favorite lines thank you i remember my 00:18:35.880 --> 00:18:38.420 oldest son we had to take him to a behavioral 00:18:38.420 --> 00:18:43.500 list a couple years ago for uh just kind of get 00:18:43.500 --> 00:18:46.420 some understanding of things he was going through 00:18:46.420 --> 00:18:49.720 and acting out and uh the therapist asked me 00:18:49.720 --> 00:18:51.940 well What are your goals for your son? You know, 00:18:51.960 --> 00:18:54.740 what do you want going forward? A few years, 00:18:54.740 --> 00:18:58.019 I guess. And I said, you know, I just want him 00:18:58.019 --> 00:19:01.799 to have a positive self image. I started to say, 00:19:01.799 --> 00:19:04.059 I want you to be, I want him to be friendly and 00:19:04.059 --> 00:19:08.240 be nice to other people and be confident. And 00:19:08.240 --> 00:19:09.619 I was thinking, wait a second, where does that 00:19:09.619 --> 00:19:12.140 start from? It starts from a positive self image. 00:19:12.700 --> 00:19:15.339 And, um, that's so important with a kid. And 00:19:15.339 --> 00:19:17.079 I just, when you sang that line, I was like, 00:19:17.140 --> 00:19:19.809 that's it. That's perfect. Thank you. I feel 00:19:19.809 --> 00:19:21.970 like we had very similar thought processes on 00:19:21.970 --> 00:19:24.690 that and for different reasons, but yeah, I wrote 00:19:24.690 --> 00:19:28.130 that song my daughter Cora is about eight and 00:19:28.130 --> 00:19:31.869 a half months old now and About eight months 00:19:31.869 --> 00:19:34.390 ago. We were sitting on the porch and I was playing 00:19:34.390 --> 00:19:36.569 that song and I kind of that was I think there 00:19:36.569 --> 00:19:40.289 was maybe the last line that I wrote from that 00:19:40.289 --> 00:19:42.430 song I was like there needs to be something else 00:19:42.430 --> 00:19:46.190 here and you know you can Because the line before 00:19:46.190 --> 00:19:48.970 that is be good to others be good to others and 00:19:48.970 --> 00:19:51.829 let them be good to you But I think one thing 00:19:51.829 --> 00:19:54.230 that people forget is to be good to yourself, 00:19:54.569 --> 00:19:57.630 too So it's snuck in there, and I'm pretty proud 00:19:57.630 --> 00:20:01.750 of that line Yeah, and just adding in the second 00:20:01.750 --> 00:20:04.869 part. It's hard to do and you know that as an 00:20:04.869 --> 00:20:07.410 adult There are some times it is hard to be good 00:20:07.410 --> 00:20:10.150 to yourself I just want to read this other lyric 00:20:10.150 --> 00:20:13.490 the birds won't always sing like they do now 00:20:14.220 --> 00:20:18.200 That is just beautiful stuff Dan and people often 00:20:18.200 --> 00:20:21.740 turn the sunshine down How often have we seen 00:20:21.740 --> 00:20:25.259 that you you're having a good day? and then you 00:20:25.259 --> 00:20:29.819 get around just you know a curmudgeon type or 00:20:29.819 --> 00:20:33.059 someone who's always the e or of the room, but 00:20:33.059 --> 00:20:35.619 There's room for everybody. But sometimes yeah 00:20:35.619 --> 00:20:38.220 that that happens and you find that out in life 00:20:38.220 --> 00:20:41.759 You'll tire yourself out trying to know why? 00:20:42.000 --> 00:20:44.779 But I think you go on to say just remember the 00:20:44.779 --> 00:20:48.619 bottom line So that I thought I had my favorite 00:20:48.619 --> 00:20:50.880 picked out with power lines. I'm probably gonna 00:20:50.880 --> 00:20:52.960 bounce around the bottom line is just phenomenal 00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:56.579 Thank you. I really appreciate that It's become 00:20:56.579 --> 00:21:00.539 part of our bedtime routine that song has been 00:21:00.539 --> 00:21:02.400 played many times in the last eight and a half 00:21:02.400 --> 00:21:07.480 months to an audience of one Well, congratulations 00:21:07.480 --> 00:21:11.460 on being a dad. Thank you I know from obviously 00:21:11.460 --> 00:21:14.640 from experience that brings on a set of challenges. 00:21:14.640 --> 00:21:18.200 It changes your routine a little bit. How has 00:21:18.200 --> 00:21:22.599 being a father with a baby affected the way that 00:21:22.599 --> 00:21:27.880 you write and schedule your creative time? Yeah, 00:21:28.119 --> 00:21:32.460 so it's has been surprising to me because My 00:21:32.460 --> 00:21:35.839 wife is a teacher so she's gone from seven to 00:21:35.839 --> 00:21:40.279 three or so and I play music and I coach baseball 00:21:40.279 --> 00:21:45.420 after school. So I'm home with Cora all day and 00:21:45.420 --> 00:21:48.299 I really thought off the bat that my writing 00:21:48.299 --> 00:21:51.440 time would be completely gone because there's 00:21:51.440 --> 00:21:55.140 so much to do for booking, for scheduling, for 00:21:55.140 --> 00:21:58.960 social media, for my website. maintenance, all 00:21:58.960 --> 00:22:01.240 of the administrative stuff that independent 00:22:01.240 --> 00:22:04.940 musicians go through. And I thought that writing 00:22:04.940 --> 00:22:07.640 would be the thing that got just totally wiped 00:22:07.640 --> 00:22:11.539 out. But because Cora and I are hanging out in 00:22:11.539 --> 00:22:14.599 the living room all day, I pull down a guitar 00:22:14.599 --> 00:22:17.740 from the wall or I sit at the piano and I sing 00:22:17.740 --> 00:22:20.440 and we play music together and I'm singing to 00:22:20.440 --> 00:22:22.900 her and she's crawling over to me and crawling 00:22:22.900 --> 00:22:25.539 up the guitar. And so I've actually been writing 00:22:25.539 --> 00:22:29.609 more than I ever have. Just because I'm forced 00:22:29.609 --> 00:22:32.730 to be creative and I'm forced to sit there and 00:22:32.730 --> 00:22:36.130 and be a dad and not do the business stuff So 00:22:36.130 --> 00:22:38.130 the ideas have been coming some of them are kids 00:22:38.130 --> 00:22:40.190 songs. Some of them are not kids songs some of 00:22:40.190 --> 00:22:43.509 them are somewhere in the middle of You know 00:22:43.509 --> 00:22:46.170 children's music parent music and it's just been 00:22:46.170 --> 00:22:48.890 a lot of fun to be able to do that But it's uh, 00:22:48.890 --> 00:22:51.170 I'm very lucky to have that time with her and 00:22:51.170 --> 00:22:53.289 I'm lucky that she's interested in music too 00:22:53.289 --> 00:22:57.750 because it keeps me singing Wow what special 00:22:57.750 --> 00:23:00.250 memories and special bond that you're building 00:23:00.250 --> 00:23:03.349 with your daughter Yeah, one of the best pieces 00:23:03.349 --> 00:23:06.990 of advice I heard from my my dad was he said 00:23:06.990 --> 00:23:10.849 son your your children when they're at that age 00:23:10.849 --> 00:23:14.589 eight months old or A year and a half or even 00:23:14.589 --> 00:23:16.690 two or three. They're not gonna remember all 00:23:16.690 --> 00:23:19.309 these moments, but all this time you're putting 00:23:19.309 --> 00:23:23.079 in with them Is kind of built into their subconscious 00:23:23.079 --> 00:23:27.859 It's going to pay off and so don't snooze on 00:23:27.859 --> 00:23:31.319 the opportunities To bond with them and it sounds 00:23:31.319 --> 00:23:34.079 like you're really enjoying that part of it totally 00:23:34.079 --> 00:23:37.319 and I know there's also you know not to be You 00:23:37.319 --> 00:23:39.440 know negative but there is the flip side of eventually 00:23:39.440 --> 00:23:41.779 when she's older and wants to hang out with me 00:23:41.779 --> 00:23:44.779 on a Friday night That's usually my work time. 00:23:45.460 --> 00:23:48.599 So we're always having conversations about what 00:23:48.599 --> 00:23:52.480 those weekends might look like. But the family 00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:56.960 time, being able to be dad during the day and 00:23:56.960 --> 00:23:59.900 have family time early in the week for sure is 00:23:59.900 --> 00:24:05.140 really amazing. Now, you mentioned writing some 00:24:05.140 --> 00:24:07.500 children's music and I heard that on the Sisters 00:24:07.500 --> 00:24:12.190 in Song episode. Do you have plans for like releasing 00:24:12.190 --> 00:24:15.950 some materials some songs for kids? No concrete 00:24:15.950 --> 00:24:19.269 plans right now, but I am definitely collecting 00:24:19.269 --> 00:24:24.029 songs and and trying to See what might work if 00:24:24.029 --> 00:24:25.990 there if there's an album there if there's an 00:24:25.990 --> 00:24:29.910 EP there if they're singles but yeah, it's a 00:24:29.910 --> 00:24:31.950 Early last year about this time last year. I 00:24:31.950 --> 00:24:35.269 signed a publishing deal with TRO Essex music 00:24:35.269 --> 00:24:38.809 group and they have the publishing for Woody 00:24:38.809 --> 00:24:41.990 Guthrie and Pete Seeger and Leadbelly and these 00:24:41.990 --> 00:24:44.950 people that Oscar brand that have great children's 00:24:44.950 --> 00:24:47.490 music. So I've definitely been inspired by listening 00:24:47.490 --> 00:24:51.769 to that, that stuff. And, um, you know, I'm, 00:24:51.789 --> 00:24:54.130 I'm, I feel like I'm writing a new children's 00:24:54.130 --> 00:24:57.170 song every day just to like, you know, get the 00:24:57.170 --> 00:25:00.650 carrot puree in Cora's mouth during lunchtime 00:25:00.650 --> 00:25:03.130 or whatever it is. So there's, you know, it's, 00:25:03.130 --> 00:25:06.380 it's this constant flow of things. And I'm kind 00:25:06.380 --> 00:25:08.539 of, as you probably can tell from my Spotify, 00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:13.160 I'm not one to hold on to things that I'm recording 00:25:13.160 --> 00:25:15.759 or ideas that I'm coming up with. So I'm sure 00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:18.740 that I'll have something soon, but nothing concrete 00:25:18.740 --> 00:25:22.779 yet. But yeah. Well, you have a real approachable 00:25:22.779 --> 00:25:25.339 vibe about you. I can kind of picture if you 00:25:25.339 --> 00:25:28.160 were to pull out an acoustic guitar sitting around 00:25:28.160 --> 00:25:31.279 a park fountain or something that kids would 00:25:31.279 --> 00:25:34.509 just naturally be drawn to you. You've got Great 00:25:34.509 --> 00:25:36.950 big smile. You just seem like a really warm guy 00:25:36.950 --> 00:25:40.450 and thank you. So Yeah, and I've even noticed 00:25:40.450 --> 00:25:43.130 that at bars and restaurants that I play that 00:25:43.130 --> 00:25:45.450 kids are it doesn't matter if you're playing 00:25:45.450 --> 00:25:47.589 kids songs They just love music and that's one 00:25:47.589 --> 00:25:50.190 of the things that I've been toying with is this 00:25:50.190 --> 00:25:53.190 idea that It doesn't necessarily have to be just 00:25:53.190 --> 00:25:56.970 a kids album or just an adult album that there's 00:25:56.970 --> 00:25:59.200 there's just music and there's different things 00:25:59.200 --> 00:26:01.819 to sing about and some of it is brushing your 00:26:01.819 --> 00:26:05.920 teeth and some of it is you know more uh more 00:26:05.920 --> 00:26:10.019 serious things but it's all good so you so you 00:26:10.019 --> 00:26:13.680 coach baseball and you give private baseball 00:26:13.680 --> 00:26:17.000 lessons instruction right yes for the most part 00:26:17.000 --> 00:26:19.000 there's some small groups sometimes i'll work 00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:22.019 with teams here and there but that's uh that's 00:26:22.019 --> 00:26:25.599 my side gig my side gig Now you played all the 00:26:25.599 --> 00:26:27.920 way to the collegiate level and some independent 00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:31.660 league baseball I of course never got that far 00:26:31.660 --> 00:26:34.700 but Dan When you've got baseball in the blood 00:26:34.700 --> 00:26:37.440 is it do you ever are you always still thinking 00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:40.660 about baseball? You love the game? How do you 00:26:40.660 --> 00:26:42.740 balance that with music? I mean, I'm not gonna 00:26:42.740 --> 00:26:46.019 ask you. Well, which one do you love more? I 00:26:46.019 --> 00:26:48.259 mean, I love the game of baseball. I think about 00:26:48.259 --> 00:26:51.319 it all the time. I love watching it love going 00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:56.180 to the ball games and Yeah, how does oh I like 00:26:56.180 --> 00:26:58.720 all the time I'm thinking about baseball especially, 00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:01.259 you know And I'm not really a football fan But 00:27:01.259 --> 00:27:04.240 I'll watch the NFL playoffs and the Super Bowl 00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:08.220 and then when the Super Bowl is over it is straight 00:27:08.220 --> 00:27:11.579 up spring training time and that is my my focus 00:27:11.579 --> 00:27:13.759 even before then I'm thinking about what deals 00:27:13.759 --> 00:27:17.200 are being made in the offseason You know, you're 00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:20.259 just watching old highlights even and it's it's 00:27:20.259 --> 00:27:24.170 an exciting time of year for me Now I gotta ask 00:27:24.170 --> 00:27:27.650 you also so During your playing days at Marist. 00:27:28.009 --> 00:27:30.369 Do you remember games? Like I was reading over 00:27:30.369 --> 00:27:33.309 some stats and so your career summary Do you 00:27:33.309 --> 00:27:35.930 remember stuff today like the Delaware State 00:27:35.930 --> 00:27:38.650 performance the 10 strikeouts? Can you still 00:27:38.650 --> 00:27:41.569 put yourself on the mound in like the fifth inning 00:27:41.569 --> 00:27:43.609 of that game? Like do you remember things like 00:27:43.609 --> 00:27:46.529 that? Totally. I remember that mound there was 00:27:46.529 --> 00:27:49.589 it was a weird visual on that mound at Delaware 00:27:49.589 --> 00:27:51.910 State like the mound was super high but there 00:27:51.910 --> 00:27:54.289 was a divot between the mound and home plate 00:27:54.289 --> 00:27:57.049 so it but then it came back up so it actually 00:27:57.049 --> 00:28:02.269 was level and my first like Six warm -up pitches 00:28:02.269 --> 00:28:05.789 from that game were like a spiked fastballs I 00:28:05.789 --> 00:28:07.670 could not figure out how to throw it to home 00:28:07.670 --> 00:28:10.329 plate and then I think I threw like seven and 00:28:10.329 --> 00:28:12.769 a third No -hit innings or something like that. 00:28:12.769 --> 00:28:16.329 It was something crazy But yeah, I'm glad you 00:28:16.329 --> 00:28:17.650 picked that game because there are plenty of 00:28:17.650 --> 00:28:19.549 other games that you could have picked. I remember 00:28:19.549 --> 00:28:21.710 the old Dominion game when I came in and walked 00:28:21.710 --> 00:28:24.309 four guys straight and then came out. So that, 00:28:24.309 --> 00:28:27.150 you know, I can definitely put myself in those 00:28:27.150 --> 00:28:30.809 situations again. And now your freshman season 00:28:30.809 --> 00:28:33.930 at Marist, if I'm getting this correct, you got 00:28:33.930 --> 00:28:38.069 you got a win in your first appearance. Five 00:28:38.069 --> 00:28:42.240 five innings. Was it George Washington? Was it 00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:46.339 George Washington? George Mason? My first actually 00:28:46.339 --> 00:28:49.980 that game Against George Mason. I was playing 00:28:49.980 --> 00:28:52.480 right field. I think I was the leadoff hitter 00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:56.200 and playing right field my freshman year I don't 00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:58.980 remember my first I think my first pitching outing 00:28:58.980 --> 00:29:02.619 was at UNC Charlotte and I gave up a couple runs 00:29:02.619 --> 00:29:07.460 So I don't think I got the win Yeah, so I I saw 00:29:07.460 --> 00:29:12.829 that you pitched you bat bat left South Paul 00:29:12.829 --> 00:29:15.670 Bats left throws left. I always like when you 00:29:15.670 --> 00:29:18.069 go to like baseball reference calm and you can 00:29:18.069 --> 00:29:21.890 look up like a guy from the 1800s or the 1920s 00:29:21.890 --> 00:29:25.609 and it still says bats Plural like he's still 00:29:25.609 --> 00:29:30.390 around throws That's very funny only a baseball 00:29:30.390 --> 00:29:35.329 see that I love it. So you man the outfield positions 00:29:35.329 --> 00:29:37.670 Did you play all three outfield positions? I 00:29:37.670 --> 00:29:41.009 think at some point I played In high school I 00:29:41.009 --> 00:29:43.250 was definitely a center fielder, but when I got 00:29:43.250 --> 00:29:47.690 to college they moved me all around. When I played 00:29:47.690 --> 00:29:51.349 professionally, I didn't play any outfield, but 00:29:51.349 --> 00:29:54.109 I loved taking batting practice in the outfield. 00:29:54.250 --> 00:29:56.609 I still had that, I loved shag and fly balls 00:29:56.609 --> 00:29:59.190 and running them down, getting my sprints in 00:29:59.190 --> 00:30:03.829 that way. When you played and going back to being 00:30:03.829 --> 00:30:06.759 seven or eight years old, Did you have did you 00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:09.539 think okay? I my dream is to be a major league 00:30:09.539 --> 00:30:11.599 baseball player like were you one of those little 00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:13.160 kids where that's what you definitely wanted 00:30:13.160 --> 00:30:16.000 to do because I did but I was like that quickly 00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:18.000 found out what that that's not the cards for 00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:21.599 you buddy, but Yeah, I definitely had that dream. 00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:25.779 I didn't I don't think I ever realized how Good 00:30:25.779 --> 00:30:28.240 I actually was which is kind of a weird thing 00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:31.339 to say until I started getting recruited by colleges 00:30:31.339 --> 00:30:34.500 and there's the date I think it was july 1st 00:30:34.500 --> 00:30:37.690 of your junior year, when college coaches can 00:30:37.690 --> 00:30:40.730 reach out to you. And I had a bunch of division 00:30:40.730 --> 00:30:43.529 one schools interested in bringing me on as a 00:30:43.529 --> 00:30:47.009 pitcher. And that was kind of like, oh, like, 00:30:47.130 --> 00:30:49.309 wow, I'm and this is all the way through high 00:30:49.309 --> 00:30:50.829 school. And, you know, it was like, I didn't 00:30:50.829 --> 00:30:53.410 I don't think I really understood that I had 00:30:53.410 --> 00:30:56.470 a shot at making money playing baseball until 00:30:56.470 --> 00:30:59.490 then. And, you know, after that, I definitely 00:30:59.490 --> 00:31:02.269 put a lot more pressure on myself. And, you know, 00:31:02.289 --> 00:31:05.750 it There were periods where it wasn't as fun 00:31:05.750 --> 00:31:08.710 because of that, but it was also really, really 00:31:08.710 --> 00:31:13.049 fun for most of it. So I, um, yeah, that was 00:31:13.049 --> 00:31:17.250 pretty much the story of it. Well, when you were, 00:31:17.250 --> 00:31:20.269 uh, this is kind of jumping around a little bit, 00:31:20.269 --> 00:31:23.210 but still keeping it on baseball. You're at the 00:31:23.210 --> 00:31:25.529 right place, the right time at Yankee stadium 00:31:25.529 --> 00:31:31.630 at 2017. You managed to snag Aaron judges 50th 00:31:31.630 --> 00:31:34.099 home run ball. And I was like, when I saw that, 00:31:34.180 --> 00:31:37.019 I was like, wow, he was a rookie in 2017 and 00:31:37.019 --> 00:31:39.359 he's already put up the kind of numbers he's 00:31:39.359 --> 00:31:42.220 put up. Tell me about that experience. And also 00:31:42.220 --> 00:31:45.140 I kind of say, uh, last August, I went to see 00:31:45.140 --> 00:31:49.440 the Braves and the Yankees in Atlanta and saw 00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:52.640 Aaron judge relatively up close. From like the 00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:55.420 mezzanine level. I'm like this. That is a large 00:31:55.420 --> 00:31:58.200 human being You just don't see like a guy like 00:31:58.200 --> 00:32:01.579 that walking around Costco. Yeah What was it 00:32:01.579 --> 00:32:05.160 like just the spirit just take me through? Getting 00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:07.700 the ball and then meeting Aaron judge. Yeah, 00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:11.539 so it was it was a random like makeup day on 00:32:11.539 --> 00:32:14.220 a Sun or a Monday afternoon game at the end of 00:32:14.220 --> 00:32:18.250 the season and my friend Steve and I from Marist 00:32:18.250 --> 00:32:21.109 we're going to see our ex -teammate and friend 00:32:21.109 --> 00:32:23.750 Kevin McCarthy who is a reliever for the Royals. 00:32:24.289 --> 00:32:27.329 So we're sitting by him in the bullpen and there's 00:32:27.329 --> 00:32:29.250 not a lot of people at the game because it's 00:32:29.250 --> 00:32:32.910 a Monday afternoon in September I think and the 00:32:32.910 --> 00:32:35.960 ball bounces 50 million ways. It ends up in my 00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:38.680 hands. And this is like, I've never even caught 00:32:38.680 --> 00:32:41.880 a foul ball at a Yankee game or any major league 00:32:41.880 --> 00:32:46.200 game. So this is just insane. And then Steve 00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:48.119 and I had been talking throughout the game knowing 00:32:48.119 --> 00:32:51.640 that Judge was near the record and he actually 00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:54.440 tied the record earlier in the game. So we started 00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:56.460 thinking, OK, what would happen if we got the 00:32:56.460 --> 00:32:58.740 ball? And we decided that we would give it back 00:32:58.740 --> 00:33:02.410 to him, which now that I. My wife and I are paying 00:33:02.410 --> 00:33:04.630 for house projects. I kind of wish that I hadn't 00:33:04.630 --> 00:33:09.289 given it back to him. No, but it was the right 00:33:09.289 --> 00:33:11.950 thing to do. But house projects are expensive. 00:33:14.329 --> 00:33:18.329 So security surrounded me immediately and basically 00:33:18.329 --> 00:33:21.220 said, if you give us the ball back. we'll take 00:33:21.220 --> 00:33:23.799 you down after the game, you'll get to meet him, 00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:27.180 you'll go on the field, all this stuff. So that's 00:33:27.180 --> 00:33:29.180 exactly what we did. We got to see the clubhouse. 00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:31.880 We got to sit in the dugout. We got to go behind 00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:35.039 home plate at Yankee Stadium, which is just super 00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:37.779 cool. And it was great to meet Aaron Judge too, 00:33:37.859 --> 00:33:40.960 who is just enormous. And I'm not, you know, 00:33:41.019 --> 00:33:43.279 I'm not a small guy for a baseball player. I'm 00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:45.579 a little bit on the smaller side. I'm about 5 00:33:45.579 --> 00:33:48.769 '10". And he just like he made me look like a 00:33:48.769 --> 00:33:52.609 little boy and it's just you know, he was so 00:33:52.609 --> 00:33:56.910 nice and so Gracious and appreciative. But yeah, 00:33:56.910 --> 00:33:59.170 he's he's one of the biggest people I think I've 00:33:59.170 --> 00:34:02.789 ever seen in my life Isn't it pretty cool? Like 00:34:02.789 --> 00:34:05.190 I think I was reading the story where you guys 00:34:05.190 --> 00:34:07.789 were Spending some time talking to him and if 00:34:07.789 --> 00:34:10.510 you played baseball up it to you know a certain 00:34:10.510 --> 00:34:13.630 level and You're talking to a guy like you're 00:34:13.630 --> 00:34:16.530 in judge you still have like those what six degrees 00:34:16.530 --> 00:34:20.130 of separation from uh of kevin bacon or whatever 00:34:20.130 --> 00:34:22.630 where you can name drop some guys and he's like 00:34:22.630 --> 00:34:25.250 oh yeah i know that i know steve or i play with 00:34:25.250 --> 00:34:29.710 him exactly and then and so steve at the time 00:34:29.710 --> 00:34:33.030 was in the Baltimore Orioles system and in the 00:34:33.030 --> 00:34:35.829 minor leagues. So, you know, he knew people there 00:34:35.829 --> 00:34:38.130 that would run into judge and say, you know, 00:34:38.230 --> 00:34:40.650 hey, I know one of the guys who caught your ball. 00:34:40.889 --> 00:34:44.289 And so, you know, they were like, you know, this 00:34:44.289 --> 00:34:47.150 weird baseball ties. It becomes a very small 00:34:47.150 --> 00:34:50.789 world when you play at a high level and even 00:34:50.789 --> 00:34:52.429 with the major leagues, which is really cool 00:34:52.429 --> 00:34:55.670 to watch those guys and go, hey, I know someone 00:34:55.670 --> 00:34:57.670 who knows that guy or I know that guy or I played 00:34:57.670 --> 00:34:59.650 with that guy or, you know, that sort of thing. 00:35:00.539 --> 00:35:03.119 I could keep asking questions about baseball 00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:06.780 and your playing career. Did you get nervous 00:35:06.780 --> 00:35:10.179 before a start when you were pitching? Did you 00:35:10.179 --> 00:35:12.980 get nervous when you're up to bat and you're 00:35:12.980 --> 00:35:15.380 facing a guy and you're like, I've seen this 00:35:15.380 --> 00:35:18.079 guy before. He always throws it high and tight. 00:35:18.099 --> 00:35:20.960 I can't catch up to him. This is not fun. Did 00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:22.880 you have experiences like that or were you always 00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:27.179 thinking, I got it? I mean, you've seen my baseball 00:35:27.179 --> 00:35:30.539 reference pretty much every... Every start every 00:35:30.539 --> 00:35:33.519 at -bat was was pretty nerve -wracking for me. 00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:36.280 No, but there were more memorable would be the 00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:41.480 times where I felt like Either like I totally 00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:43.760 have no idea where the ball is going when I'm 00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:47.639 pitching Or I can put this ball wherever I want 00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:49.880 and no one's ever gonna touch me So there were 00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:52.780 there were definitely it was a there was very 00:35:52.780 --> 00:35:56.280 little in the middle for my career But I definitely 00:35:56.280 --> 00:35:59.079 remember like my first at -bat Was against george 00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:01.420 mason in college and i'm a freshman leading off 00:36:01.420 --> 00:36:05.079 the season And their pitcher is like six seven 00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:08.079 and he wasn't throwing in crazy hard But it was 00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:11.219 just to see a george mason uniform and you go. 00:36:11.320 --> 00:36:13.619 Wow. That's like a real that's like a real college 00:36:13.619 --> 00:36:17.360 And he's you know, he's 60 feet away, but he's 00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:19.420 six seven So he looks like he's you know right 00:36:19.420 --> 00:36:22.599 on top of you and um, I remember those feelings 00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:26.239 and then you know times where you're in the bullpen 00:36:26.239 --> 00:36:29.679 warming up to pitch and Everything just is working 00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:32.239 right and you go alright I'm gonna go out there 00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:35.019 and and this is gonna be fun You know those were 00:36:35.019 --> 00:36:37.679 those were really fun feelings that you know 00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:40.980 I do miss a little bit, but not too much to go 00:36:40.980 --> 00:36:44.360 back and try to play again When you're speaking 00:36:44.360 --> 00:36:47.019 of the bullpen when you're getting loosened up 00:36:47.019 --> 00:36:50.760 Maybe this is different everywhere, but do you 00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:52.500 pretty much know I could okay. I'm definitely 00:36:52.500 --> 00:36:55.789 going in the next inning or after this after 00:36:55.789 --> 00:36:57.630 he records this next out or were there times 00:36:57.630 --> 00:37:00.130 where you got up and you're you're kind of getting 00:37:00.130 --> 00:37:02.389 getting yourself psyched for it and then they 00:37:02.389 --> 00:37:04.510 say all right sit back down we're gonna wait 00:37:04.510 --> 00:37:06.889 another couple innings and you're like you know 00:37:06.889 --> 00:37:09.250 what's that experience like did you go through 00:37:09.250 --> 00:37:12.829 that all the time yeah and and a lot of the time 00:37:12.829 --> 00:37:15.750 you do have a pretty good idea of it um for the 00:37:15.750 --> 00:37:18.070 teams that i played for we didn't have a dedicated 00:37:18.070 --> 00:37:20.809 bullpen coach but the pitching coach and the 00:37:20.809 --> 00:37:23.940 head coach were usually in pretty good communication 00:37:23.940 --> 00:37:26.559 about, you know, what situation you might go 00:37:26.559 --> 00:37:29.199 in. I remember my senior year, I transferred 00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:33.340 to the University of Tampa and it was, I hadn't 00:37:33.340 --> 00:37:37.239 gotten into any games yet. And the coach said, 00:37:37.260 --> 00:37:40.659 if we go up by four, you'll go in and get some 00:37:40.659 --> 00:37:43.579 work. And we were up by two, we were up by two. 00:37:43.599 --> 00:37:46.159 And then with two outs, my teammate hit a two 00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:49.150 run home run. And so they go, all right, Dan, 00:37:49.349 --> 00:37:51.750 go get hot. And so, you know, you have like, 00:37:51.750 --> 00:37:54.590 you know, 10 seconds to warm up and that outing 00:37:54.590 --> 00:37:57.989 went great. And, you know, it's like, there's 00:37:57.989 --> 00:38:01.090 the being a relief pitcher. You're always ready 00:38:01.090 --> 00:38:04.190 to be up and down. You're always ready to go 00:38:04.190 --> 00:38:07.780 in when you think it's. You know when it makes 00:38:07.780 --> 00:38:10.179 sense for you to go face the lefty or whatever? 00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:12.400 and then there are those times where you're just 00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:14.099 getting pulled off the bench out of nowhere and 00:38:14.099 --> 00:38:16.880 you got to go real quick and You know next thing, 00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:21.599 you know, you're in a game. So always ready So 00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:23.940 like after some of these games and you're you're 00:38:23.940 --> 00:38:25.900 back on the bus or you're traveling to the game 00:38:25.900 --> 00:38:29.079 or traveling back Do you have a guitar at this 00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:33.079 time? Are you are you writing songs? In college 00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:37.619 no, but then when I went to Trinidad Colorado 00:38:37.619 --> 00:38:40.860 for my first stint in independent minor league 00:38:40.860 --> 00:38:45.380 ball I had a little it was I guess not quite 00:38:45.380 --> 00:38:48.380 a toy guitar but a pretty cheap nylon string 00:38:48.380 --> 00:38:50.340 guitar that I would take on these bus trips when 00:38:50.340 --> 00:38:53.699 we were going from Colorado to Alpine Texas that 00:38:53.699 --> 00:38:56.579 are it's like a 10 -hour bus ride and so that 00:38:56.579 --> 00:39:00.090 that was kind of fun to have The guitar with 00:39:00.090 --> 00:39:02.989 me and there were there's always teammates, you 00:39:02.989 --> 00:39:04.949 know, there's this weird connection like you 00:39:04.949 --> 00:39:07.050 were saying with music and baseball and I've 00:39:07.050 --> 00:39:09.269 always had teammates that also played guitar 00:39:09.269 --> 00:39:12.510 or other instruments. So, you know, I had a teammate 00:39:12.510 --> 00:39:14.570 on that team, John Sullivan, who's still a singer 00:39:14.570 --> 00:39:17.630 songwriter, still playing in North Carolina and 00:39:17.630 --> 00:39:20.809 we link up every so often and it's kind of cool 00:39:20.809 --> 00:39:23.710 to have, you know, have the teammate that didn't 00:39:23.710 --> 00:39:28.909 mind me playing guitar on the bus. That must 00:39:28.909 --> 00:39:31.070 have been fun though, just being around the group 00:39:31.070 --> 00:39:34.530 of guys for whatever team that you're on. And 00:39:34.530 --> 00:39:37.030 people probably imagine that some ballplayers, 00:39:37.250 --> 00:39:39.210 that's just, that's what they do. That's all 00:39:39.210 --> 00:39:42.210 they do. That's all there is to them. And I'm 00:39:42.210 --> 00:39:44.210 sure you probably met some other guys that had 00:39:44.210 --> 00:39:46.889 some unique interests besides just playing baseball. 00:39:47.010 --> 00:39:50.050 They just happened to be super talented. They 00:39:50.050 --> 00:39:52.349 belonged there, but they were, you know, they 00:39:52.349 --> 00:39:54.739 loved painting or something like that. Totally 00:39:54.739 --> 00:39:57.199 and that and yeah, right. I've connected always 00:39:57.199 --> 00:39:59.579 with like the other musicians on the team but 00:39:59.579 --> 00:40:03.699 you know, they're really good writers and people 00:40:03.699 --> 00:40:07.639 that have become photographers or other creative 00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:10.320 Endeavors that don't necessarily you wouldn't 00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:12.900 necessarily assume that a jock baseball player 00:40:12.900 --> 00:40:15.699 would be interested in And you know, you always 00:40:15.699 --> 00:40:18.079 hear that. What is it baseball players want to 00:40:18.079 --> 00:40:21.280 be? Rock stars and rock stars want to be ballplayers 00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:24.420 or something like that It makes sense. Yeah, 00:40:24.420 --> 00:40:28.300 I do a little bit of both. Yeah. Yeah Do you 00:40:28.300 --> 00:40:31.579 have a favorite movie a favorite baseball movie? 00:40:32.280 --> 00:40:35.300 Of all time or do you do you watch those or you 00:40:35.300 --> 00:40:38.119 do really get into those? Oh, yeah I mean I I 00:40:38.119 --> 00:40:40.719 have to say the Sam lot because i think that's 00:40:40.719 --> 00:40:43.559 like just how baseball should be played but i 00:40:43.559 --> 00:40:45.820 also have always loved the rookie with dennis 00:40:45.820 --> 00:40:48.920 quaid that was and now that i'm coaching i tell 00:40:48.920 --> 00:40:51.960 all my my clients to go watch the rookie and 00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:54.179 you know let them know that i still got it a 00:40:54.179 --> 00:40:58.300 little bit oh man the rookie is fantastic yeah 00:40:58.300 --> 00:41:01.679 on netflix now i think it's called the hill with 00:41:01.679 --> 00:41:05.190 dennis quaid i don't know that one highly My 00:41:05.190 --> 00:41:07.510 gosh highly recommend it get the box of tissues 00:41:07.510 --> 00:41:16.429 out It's gonna be waterfalls Yeah Probably some 00:41:16.429 --> 00:41:19.750 good sad songs in that movie too. Yeah. Yeah, 00:41:19.829 --> 00:41:22.690 I love the Sandlot I think was there a sequel 00:41:22.690 --> 00:41:25.389 to that. There's a Sandlot 2 and there was but 00:41:25.389 --> 00:41:27.510 I don't know if I've ever even seen it I don't 00:41:27.510 --> 00:41:29.829 think I bother try to you know live up to the 00:41:29.829 --> 00:41:34.860 same Okay, going back to music, do you remember 00:41:34.860 --> 00:41:38.000 your first concert or maybe your first concert 00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:41.579 or favorite concert memory as a kid, a teenager, 00:41:41.940 --> 00:41:45.760 that sort of thing? Well, speaking of, so DZB 00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:49.840 2023, that was my first concert, but in the second 00:41:49.840 --> 00:41:52.340 half of the album, we have the keyboard player 00:41:52.340 --> 00:41:56.559 John Cobert playing. And John has been touring 00:41:56.559 --> 00:41:59.460 with Tom Chapin. who is a great singer songwriter 00:41:59.460 --> 00:42:02.199 who also has a bunch of children's music for 00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:07.400 like 35 years. And my parents took me to see 00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:09.920 Tom Chapin when I was probably six or seven years 00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:13.500 old. And there's a good chance that John Cobert, 00:42:14.139 --> 00:42:17.380 my now current keys player was playing at that 00:42:17.380 --> 00:42:20.340 concert when I was just a little boy, which is 00:42:20.340 --> 00:42:22.519 kind of cool. So my parents were very involved. 00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:25.449 I think I can. Faintly remember going to see 00:42:25.449 --> 00:42:28.230 a raffy concert. There was the Tom Chapin show 00:42:28.230 --> 00:42:31.869 and then my first big Stadium show was Bruce 00:42:31.869 --> 00:42:36.090 Springsteen at Giant Stadium on the I think it 00:42:36.090 --> 00:42:40.230 was 2003 on the rising tour and that was a pretty 00:42:40.230 --> 00:42:45.949 Hard to forget that That's a feeling. Yeah How 00:42:45.949 --> 00:42:50.559 about a favorite song? That you loved it was 00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:52.920 like all right. This is my song when you were 00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:57.440 say 16 That you still like and you listen to 00:42:57.440 --> 00:43:01.280 today or maybe you perform it still I was just 00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:06.119 talking to a friend of mine about this the acoustic 00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:09.039 version of growing up by Bruce Springsteen was 00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:13.500 on the 18 tracks CD and that was one of my first 00:43:13.500 --> 00:43:16.360 Bruce Springsteen CDs that was mine and I was 00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:19.369 like the first song on the album First time I 00:43:19.369 --> 00:43:21.489 heard that song and I just played it the other 00:43:21.489 --> 00:43:24.449 night at my gig I was like this is a song I haven't 00:43:24.449 --> 00:43:26.329 played in a while but I've been playing it forever 00:43:26.329 --> 00:43:29.789 and it's just such a great story about growing 00:43:29.789 --> 00:43:32.670 up and being a kid and trying to prove yourself 00:43:32.670 --> 00:43:34.949 and There's some great guitar work in it, which 00:43:34.949 --> 00:43:38.909 makes it a lot of fun to play Any music movies 00:43:38.909 --> 00:43:43.710 or documentaries? Um, this is spinal tap is like 00:43:43.710 --> 00:43:46.289 right up my alley in terms of sense of humor 00:43:46.289 --> 00:43:49.010 and you know, it kind of checks off both It's 00:43:49.010 --> 00:43:53.809 a movie and a documentary a mockumentary a rockumentary 00:43:53.809 --> 00:43:57.210 Yeah, dan, this has been so much fun. Gosh, we 00:43:57.210 --> 00:44:00.670 could talk for another 30 45 minutes or an hour 00:44:00.670 --> 00:44:04.530 If you'd let me what's something? All right. 00:44:04.530 --> 00:44:07.690 So you do have a baby girl What is something 00:44:07.690 --> 00:44:10.429 that you guys the three of you like to do when? 00:44:10.590 --> 00:44:13.110 It's just family time and you're you're out somewhere 00:44:13.110 --> 00:44:15.289 to are you taking her to the restaurants yet 00:44:15.289 --> 00:44:16.750 and sticking her in the high chair with her little 00:44:16.750 --> 00:44:18.909 legs sticking out and she barely fits in the 00:44:18.909 --> 00:44:20.710 thing and you can't you buckle her in but does 00:44:20.710 --> 00:44:23.690 it matter because she's doesn't Yeah, not we 00:44:23.690 --> 00:44:27.730 haven't done that a ton um, but we we really 00:44:27.730 --> 00:44:30.250 enjoyed when it's nice out like going on walks 00:44:30.250 --> 00:44:34.679 and and going to see friends and just spending 00:44:34.679 --> 00:44:38.179 as much time outside as possible. It's February 00:44:38.179 --> 00:44:42.119 in New York, so it's not always so easy, but 00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:45.280 we'll bundle her up and bring her out in the 00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:50.519 snow. There's a rye beach, which is where the... 00:44:51.190 --> 00:44:54.670 I think it's Zoltar from the movie Big. That's 00:44:54.670 --> 00:44:57.250 where that was, that boardwalk there. In the 00:44:57.250 --> 00:44:59.449 winter, it turns into a dog beach. So we took 00:44:59.449 --> 00:45:02.949 our dog there and had the whole family outing 00:45:02.949 --> 00:45:06.269 there. So anytime we can spend some quality time 00:45:06.269 --> 00:45:10.610 outside is what we like to do. Man, I love every 00:45:10.610 --> 00:45:14.429 bit of it. Cheers to that little girl and... 00:45:14.219 --> 00:45:17.280 They everybody's right when they say they see 00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:19.860 you with your little baby and they say oh, she's 00:45:19.860 --> 00:45:23.559 so sweet. She's so cute. Hey dad It's gonna get 00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:26.619 it's gonna go by fast So make sure you you know 00:45:26.619 --> 00:45:28.460 everything that they're telling you the old folks 00:45:28.460 --> 00:45:30.980 that you pass by they're right It took me a minute 00:45:30.980 --> 00:45:33.739 to figure that out. Oh, thank you I appreciate 00:45:33.739 --> 00:45:36.559 it and it's fun to be able to have that advice 00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:39.659 coming in and Making sure that I am appreciating 00:45:39.659 --> 00:45:43.860 every moment that I have with her Now I'm not 00:45:43.860 --> 00:45:45.679 gonna put you on the spot, but I understand you 00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:48.320 might have your guitar nearby I could put in 00:45:48.320 --> 00:45:52.159 a request, but I'm just gonna Let you surprise 00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:55.199 us here with the song. All right. Well, so I 00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:58.340 I didn't know what I was gonna play either But 00:45:58.340 --> 00:46:01.699 but just talking about I could put one in but 00:46:01.699 --> 00:46:04.820 yeah, right. Well, maybe I'll do too What's your 00:46:04.820 --> 00:46:09.099 request if you have one? Oh gosh, I would say 00:46:09.099 --> 00:46:12.650 hmm. How about she's a little bit She's a little 00:46:12.650 --> 00:46:15.889 bit cool man. I think that's if I had to pick 00:46:15.889 --> 00:46:18.469 a hit I think that that's got to go over pretty 00:46:18.469 --> 00:46:20.429 well with your audience. Yeah, I like she's a 00:46:20.429 --> 00:46:24.150 little bit or You know me the bottom line. So 00:46:24.150 --> 00:46:28.090 Yeah, let's go. She's a little bit and then uh 00:46:28.090 --> 00:46:29.449 And then I'll play the one that I was thinking 00:46:29.449 --> 00:46:32.610 of from our baseball talk, but yeah, she's alright. 00:46:32.630 --> 00:46:38.530 Here we go She's a little bit just a second She's 00:46:38.530 --> 00:46:43.869 a little bit All day long She's a little bit 00:46:43.869 --> 00:46:50.969 always right She's a little bit never wrong She's 00:46:50.969 --> 00:46:56.409 a little bit conversation She's a little don't 00:46:56.409 --> 00:47:02.750 talk to me She's a little bit who I dream of 00:47:02.750 --> 00:47:38.159 She's the only one I see She's a little okay, 00:47:38.179 --> 00:47:44.980 now look She's a rooftop, dancing twilight She's 00:47:44.980 --> 00:49:14.079 a kiss Just herself! Thank you. Thank you. But 00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:16.219 yeah, I'll do one more if that's cool. Is that 00:49:16.219 --> 00:49:19.440 all right? Absolutely. Yeah. So this one is a 00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:22.400 song that I wrote. I wrote the music on the bus. 00:49:22.519 --> 00:49:25.500 So I had that little guitar and I was out in, 00:49:25.500 --> 00:49:29.900 you know, somewhere in the Southwest, not pitching 00:49:29.900 --> 00:49:33.360 well. And I wanted I wanted to come home and 00:49:33.360 --> 00:49:36.820 just be with my friends and family. And I didn't 00:49:36.820 --> 00:49:39.139 write the lyrics till I got home, but. Yeah, 00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:41.059 it was one of those times where I was like, you 00:49:41.059 --> 00:49:42.980 know, I just got this riff that keeps repeating 00:49:42.980 --> 00:49:45.139 and repeating and repeating. And I know there's 00:49:45.139 --> 00:49:46.960 something there, so I'm going to let it marinate. 00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:49.380 And the time was right to write the lyrics. So 00:49:49.380 --> 00:50:08.730 this is a song called Coming Home. See the world 00:50:08.730 --> 00:50:12.869 they say, regret it if you stay Go out and find 00:50:12.869 --> 00:50:24.710 yourself, so I'm on my way My whole life I had 00:50:24.710 --> 00:50:29.949 so much I haven't seen Time is on my side, chasing 00:50:29.949 --> 00:50:42.159 my dreams Or so it seems There's no place I could 00:50:42.159 --> 00:50:57.280 go No mountain or open road Countryside or Broadway 00:50:57.280 --> 00:51:27.480 show I've seen the city lights, slept under stars 00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:30.739 at night. I swam the clearest ocean and drank 00:51:30.739 --> 00:51:39.800 the finest wine. But I'm just passing time. The 00:51:39.800 --> 00:52:45.880 moon is following me through a bus window. Thank 00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:52.559 you so much. Thank you. Man, I gotta throw a 00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:55.440 5, a 10, or a 20 in your guitar case if I could. 00:52:55.960 --> 00:52:58.159 That would be a far throw from where you are 00:52:58.159 --> 00:53:02.440 to where I am. Have you played that? Have you 00:53:02.440 --> 00:53:05.119 played Coming Home? Have you performed that live 00:53:05.119 --> 00:53:08.059 yet? Yeah, a million times. That one's on my 00:53:08.059 --> 00:53:11.360 album Day 3. And I've actually released another 00:53:11.360 --> 00:53:13.820 live version of that this year. So I didn't think 00:53:13.820 --> 00:53:18.139 we needed another one on DZB 2023. But yeah, 00:53:18.199 --> 00:53:20.219 that's that's a favorite of mine to play live. 00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:23.539 Well, and I was telling you before the episode 00:53:23.539 --> 00:53:26.139 started, there's a really special song that you 00:53:26.139 --> 00:53:29.280 play at the end of the Sisters in Song episode. 00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:31.699 I won't ask you to play it here. I mean, unless 00:53:31.699 --> 00:53:34.059 you want unless you want to play one more. But 00:53:34.059 --> 00:53:36.000 that had a really deep meaning. I've had a guest 00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:39.889 on this show, Dan Cabelka. from Chatham Kent, 00:53:39.969 --> 00:53:44.829 Ontario, Canada. And he's a two time heart transplant 00:53:44.829 --> 00:53:48.349 recipient. And he shared a special story when 00:53:48.349 --> 00:53:52.429 he was last on the podcast about meeting his 00:53:52.429 --> 00:53:56.389 donor's mother, I believe, one of his first donor's 00:53:56.389 --> 00:54:01.010 mother, after about 30 years. And it was a really 00:54:01.010 --> 00:54:05.340 special experience. And then they, Formed a friendship 00:54:05.340 --> 00:54:07.280 separate from that connection They were able 00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:09.699 to kind of get past that and form a friendship 00:54:09.699 --> 00:54:12.360 But anyway when I heard you heard that song today 00:54:12.360 --> 00:54:16.380 on on that episode It was very moving for me, 00:54:16.380 --> 00:54:18.760 and I can't wait for my friend Dan to hear it 00:54:18.760 --> 00:54:22.460 as well Yeah, well, that's that's amazing and 00:54:22.460 --> 00:54:26.190 what a story and what? brave way to share that 00:54:26.190 --> 00:54:29.269 too on a podcast because that's a really intimate 00:54:29.269 --> 00:54:32.550 moment and when I first wrote this song it was 00:54:32.550 --> 00:54:35.829 the same story I had seen from a friend of mine 00:54:35.829 --> 00:54:38.710 in college and you know I was like I wrote this 00:54:38.710 --> 00:54:41.409 song but it's okay if you don't want me to ever 00:54:41.409 --> 00:54:44.130 share it and I understand if that's too much 00:54:44.130 --> 00:54:47.530 for you and she and her family listened to it 00:54:47.530 --> 00:54:50.599 and they're like nope go play it go do it and 00:54:50.599 --> 00:54:52.920 you know it's that I change names and that sort 00:54:52.920 --> 00:54:56.079 of thing but yeah this is that moment of a recipient 00:54:56.079 --> 00:54:58.940 of a heart transplant meeting the mother of the 00:54:58.940 --> 00:55:03.300 donor which is just unimaginable so I'll play 00:55:03.300 --> 00:55:05.519 it you know why not right I've got my guitar 00:55:05.519 --> 00:55:10.860 I'm on Dan time you know this is here we go this 00:55:10.860 --> 00:55:30.050 is called I'm Not Leaving She felt her son's 00:55:30.050 --> 00:55:40.570 heart beating In the chest of another man The 00:55:40.570 --> 00:55:47.590 accident took Jackson And gave his man a second 00:55:47.590 --> 00:55:58.630 chance She bowed her head a moment The weight 00:55:58.630 --> 00:56:08.630 of the memory The last thing Jackson told her 00:56:08.630 --> 00:56:23.030 As he faded soft and sweet I'm not leaving you 00:56:23.030 --> 00:56:50.940 behind up slowly can I ask a favor of you can 00:56:50.940 --> 00:56:58.119 you go to see the Badlands Jackson always wanted 00:56:58.119 --> 00:57:16.059 to he said ma 'am I would be honored To Dakota 00:58:35.920 --> 00:58:46.780 Ten years later, the man said his goodbyes and 00:58:46.780 --> 00:58:54.300 his body turned to soil, sending roses to the 00:58:54.300 --> 00:59:11.710 sky. her best friend with a note in her best 00:59:11.710 --> 01:00:14.460 cursive. Thank you so much. Dan, do you have 01:00:14.460 --> 01:00:18.579 a PO box where I can send you my receipt for 01:00:18.579 --> 01:00:22.400 the box of Kleenex? Do I get reimbursed? Do I 01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:24.539 scan and email that to you and you just send 01:00:24.539 --> 01:00:30.119 me? That was so powerful. Thank you. Everybody 01:00:30.119 --> 01:00:32.880 that just heard that performance, you took it 01:00:32.880 --> 01:00:35.500 in your own special way. I just love the way 01:00:35.500 --> 01:00:40.260 it ends and how commitment to someone is passed 01:00:40.260 --> 01:00:43.190 on. How you how the how you tell that story? 01:00:44.130 --> 01:00:47.730 Thank you incredible on that note Dan. I'm probably 01:00:47.730 --> 01:00:54.409 getting the hook here from my wife As as we're 01:00:54.409 --> 01:00:56.510 recording this it's coming up on nine o 'clock 01:00:56.510 --> 01:00:59.909 our time I have so enjoyed this conversation 01:00:59.909 --> 01:01:02.170 with you. I hope you have as well same to you. 01:01:02.170 --> 01:01:04.409 Yes. This has been great. Thanks so much Dan 01:01:04.409 --> 01:01:10.190 and Everybody listening be sure to I really should 01:01:10.190 --> 01:01:11.789 even have to tell you now you've heard the man 01:01:11.789 --> 01:01:15.170 perform. What more do you need to hear? Go out 01:01:15.170 --> 01:01:17.789 there and add this music to your catalog again 01:01:17.789 --> 01:01:21.449 You got a trip planned for spring break coming 01:01:21.449 --> 01:01:24.309 up. You're driving somewhere for a few hours 01:01:24.309 --> 01:01:27.730 Play DZB 2023 you're gonna have four or five 01:01:27.730 --> 01:01:30.449 people in the car Even if it's not your cup of 01:01:30.449 --> 01:01:32.949 tea, which how could it not be? Someone's gonna 01:01:32.949 --> 01:01:36.409 just say hey, who is this? What is this? Who 01:01:36.409 --> 01:01:40.929 are you listening to dad? Or whatever and add 01:01:40.929 --> 01:01:44.630 this to your catalog and and Dan's also got day 01:01:44.630 --> 01:01:47.389 three bumpers some other material out there for 01:01:47.389 --> 01:01:51.190 download Check it out. If you're in the tri -state 01:01:51.190 --> 01:01:54.250 area Dan's performing something like half the 01:01:54.250 --> 01:01:57.389 year anyway, right? Good chance you could see 01:01:57.389 --> 01:02:00.889 him live Thank you. Yeah. No, I know all my stuffs 01:02:00.889 --> 01:02:03.590 at Dan's lotnick .com and shows there's music 01:02:03.590 --> 01:02:07.150 there's videos ways to reach out get in touch 01:02:07.150 --> 01:02:10.230 and and uh you know love love to meet people 01:02:10.230 --> 01:02:13.670 all over the world so come say hi wherever you 01:02:13.670 --> 01:02:18.570 are and amazingly enough there is a another dan 01:02:18.570 --> 01:02:21.909 zlotnik musician so be sure to throw that c in 01:02:21.909 --> 01:02:25.969 the ck at the end or you'll land on a different 01:02:25.969 --> 01:02:32.670 avenue maybe a future dan time guest All right, 01:02:32.949 --> 01:02:35.889 connect with Dan on social media. This will be 01:02:35.889 --> 01:02:37.369 in the show notes too, but where do they find 01:02:37.369 --> 01:02:40.469 you on those channels? Again, just if you search 01:02:40.469 --> 01:02:43.190 Dan Zlotnik, that's pretty much, it's nice having 01:02:43.190 --> 01:02:47.510 a name like that, Z -L -O -T -N -I -C -K, and 01:02:47.510 --> 01:02:50.329 I'm pretty easy to find on Instagram, YouTube, 01:02:50.769 --> 01:02:54.190 Facebook. I've been trying out TikTok a little 01:02:54.190 --> 01:02:57.510 bit, but those first three are the main ones, 01:02:57.530 --> 01:03:01.710 Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube. Okay, Dan, 01:03:01.909 --> 01:03:05.130 best to you in 2024 as we move through the year 01:03:05.130 --> 01:03:07.190 here. Can't wait to hear what you got coming 01:03:07.190 --> 01:03:10.909 up next. And I got to ask, would you make a return 01:03:10.909 --> 01:03:14.349 visit to the Dan Time podcast sometime next year? 01:03:14.989 --> 01:03:18.289 Absolutely. Yeah, if my name is still Dan, I'm 01:03:18.289 --> 01:03:21.610 happy to do it. No, but seriously, I really it's 01:03:21.610 --> 01:03:23.650 been a pleasure talking to you. I appreciate 01:03:23.650 --> 01:03:26.829 the research you've done on my music and the 01:03:26.829 --> 01:03:30.489 kind words. It means a lot. So thank you. It's 01:03:30.489 --> 01:03:34.289 been a blast. Okay, folks, and remember a couple 01:03:34.289 --> 01:03:37.130 things here. This episode is a great reminder. 01:03:37.550 --> 01:03:40.650 If you're feeling down, you're feeling low, you're 01:03:40.650 --> 01:03:44.670 grieving, you lost somebody and get out there. 01:03:44.969 --> 01:03:47.449 Seek out people. There are people that are going 01:03:47.449 --> 01:03:50.590 through similar experiences and they're there 01:03:50.590 --> 01:03:52.690 for you. And even if you just need some more 01:03:52.690 --> 01:03:54.730 time, you're not ready to get around to someone 01:03:54.730 --> 01:03:58.449 or talk about it. Listen to Dan Zlotnick. Listen 01:03:58.449 --> 01:04:00.869 to some of his songs. It'll bring it'll it'll 01:04:00.869 --> 01:04:04.789 put a smile on your face. And I think he did 01:04:04.789 --> 01:04:08.289 that today on this appearance. So be good to 01:04:08.289 --> 01:04:12.030 each other. And just remember, be kind to yourself. 01:04:12.590 --> 01:04:14.829 Even though it's hard to do, be kind to yourself. 01:04:15.489 --> 01:04:18.110 That's it for this episode of Dan Time. We'll 01:04:18.110 --> 01:04:21.250 see you next Sunday on the Dan Time podcast. 01:04:21.409 --> 01:04:24.170 Thank you, Dan Zlotnick. Take care of my friend. 01:04:24.389 --> 01:04:29.840 You too. Thank you so much. Treasure, treasure, 01:04:30.300 --> 01:04:35.980 don't you know I'll find treasure everywhere 01:04:35.980 --> 01:04:44.480 I go Treasure, treasure, can't you see All this 01:04:44.480 --> 01:04:47.980 time, the treasure chest was me