WEBVTT 00:00:00.460 --> 00:00:06.400 Folks call him JT the barber JT Thompson a musician 00:00:06.400 --> 00:00:10.839 someone I've known for at least 35 years the 00:00:10.839 --> 00:00:15.740 longtime co -host along with Jim Powell and creator 00:00:15.740 --> 00:00:19.839 of the gimme 10 podcast Which just concluded 00:00:19.839 --> 00:00:23.339 its multi -year run earlier this month. We just 00:00:23.339 --> 00:00:26.000 scratched the surface really on this intro to 00:00:26.000 --> 00:00:30.760 JT He's a husband a dad He's got two daughters. 00:00:31.679 --> 00:00:35.000 He's living the family life, the dad life, and 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:38.020 the American dream. I can imagine, you know, 00:00:38.039 --> 00:00:40.460 he'll be back in a few months to fill in some 00:00:40.460 --> 00:00:43.380 gaps. You're gonna love it. I'm keeping this 00:00:43.380 --> 00:00:47.479 short and sweet. DanTimePod at gmail .com. If 00:00:47.479 --> 00:00:51.380 you want to send some feedback, send some criticism, 00:00:51.380 --> 00:00:54.299 if you'd like to be a guest on the show. And 00:00:54.299 --> 00:00:57.770 you can find me on Instagram. X Facebook and 00:00:57.770 --> 00:01:01.990 YouTube at Dan time pod. Okay, let's get to the 00:01:01.990 --> 00:01:11.530 conversation. It is JT time. Okay, folks, welcome 00:01:11.530 --> 00:01:15.150 back to the Dan time podcast. I am your host, 00:01:15.629 --> 00:01:20.090 Dan McCardell. This is an I'm gonna start this 00:01:20.090 --> 00:01:25.920 over. Okay, let me get a little sip of water 00:01:25.920 --> 00:01:30.560 here. Okay, everybody. Thanks for listening. 00:01:31.299 --> 00:01:33.519 You're here. You're back. You're checking out 00:01:33.519 --> 00:01:37.140 the Dan Time podcast. I'm your host, Dan McCardle. 00:01:37.420 --> 00:01:40.620 It's a fun project, a fun experiment that we're 00:01:40.620 --> 00:01:43.659 doing here, creeping up on episode number 30. 00:01:43.780 --> 00:01:47.620 I believe this is 29 today. And if you're listening 00:01:47.620 --> 00:01:51.689 for the first time... Great. I just, I love the 00:01:51.689 --> 00:01:54.150 thought, the idea of new listeners because I 00:01:54.150 --> 00:01:56.150 haven't said this in several weeks, maybe a few 00:01:56.150 --> 00:01:58.310 months, but I used to always come out and say, 00:01:58.790 --> 00:02:02.890 I appreciate you, my friend, as a listener. You're 00:02:02.890 --> 00:02:06.329 driving, you're running, you're cleaning up the 00:02:06.329 --> 00:02:08.349 kitchen. How many times are you listening to 00:02:08.349 --> 00:02:10.889 a podcast and they take a second to just say, 00:02:11.110 --> 00:02:13.870 thanks. You've got, there are thousands of podcasts 00:02:13.870 --> 00:02:17.060 out there and I appreciate you. And my guest 00:02:17.060 --> 00:02:19.360 today, I'm going to get into it in just a minute. 00:02:19.699 --> 00:02:22.699 Uh, he knows what I'm talking about. This is 00:02:22.699 --> 00:02:27.000 this podcast started kind of as a joke, uh, to 00:02:27.000 --> 00:02:29.219 see how far I could take it. I had this silly 00:02:29.219 --> 00:02:32.939 idea where I thought, what if I just talked to 00:02:32.939 --> 00:02:36.419 other Dan's in the world and Dan talking to Dan, 00:02:36.439 --> 00:02:38.479 that's kind of cool. I wanted to do a podcast. 00:02:38.539 --> 00:02:40.340 I didn't know what it was going to be. And I 00:02:40.340 --> 00:02:42.979 was tired of waiting on the sidelines. So I got 00:02:42.979 --> 00:02:46.169 out there with this idea and it. As I said on 00:02:46.169 --> 00:02:49.210 the trailer, it will evolve and it has evolved. 00:02:49.590 --> 00:02:53.710 And so from time to time, uh, we get out of that 00:02:53.710 --> 00:02:58.830 mix and, and bring in people that I know or people 00:02:58.830 --> 00:03:02.090 that have some connection, some excuse for being 00:03:02.090 --> 00:03:04.430 on the show and they're not named Dan. So anyway, 00:03:04.430 --> 00:03:06.569 that's where we are today, where we were last 00:03:06.569 --> 00:03:10.150 week, bringing back Jim Powell this week. It 00:03:10.150 --> 00:03:15.050 only makes sense to connect the dots to, uh, 00:03:16.620 --> 00:03:20.360 JT Thompson You'll have to forgive me here for 00:03:20.360 --> 00:03:23.000 not being as eloquent as I would like on the 00:03:23.000 --> 00:03:25.639 intro I'm actually trying to trim it up a little 00:03:25.639 --> 00:03:28.979 bit, but JT and I go back I just cannot where 00:03:28.979 --> 00:03:32.219 does the time go over 30 years since we were 00:03:32.219 --> 00:03:36.340 little kids How are you doing today man, thanks 00:03:36.340 --> 00:03:40.060 for being on the show and Thanks for making time 00:03:40.060 --> 00:03:43.930 for this Of course, I really appreciate you asking 00:03:43.930 --> 00:03:46.990 me to be on the show. It's a real pleasure, and 00:03:46.990 --> 00:03:48.750 I'm honored to be here. I want to congratulate 00:03:48.750 --> 00:03:51.409 you on 29 episodes, man. That's huge. I'm real 00:03:51.409 --> 00:03:53.250 proud of you. That's an amazing accomplishment, 00:03:53.430 --> 00:03:56.849 so kudos to you. Yeah, man, I've known you and 00:03:56.849 --> 00:04:00.169 your family for years and years and years. We 00:04:00.169 --> 00:04:01.849 grew up together and went to school together, 00:04:02.009 --> 00:04:04.349 college together, worked together in the past. 00:04:04.569 --> 00:04:07.750 It's been a very, very long history there, so 00:04:07.750 --> 00:04:10.229 it's just really great to To be here and talk 00:04:10.229 --> 00:04:12.430 to you and um, i'm just very excited about the 00:04:12.430 --> 00:04:15.849 opportunity. I appreciate it It is a uh a real 00:04:15.849 --> 00:04:19.610 pleasure I try to stay I try to stay away from 00:04:19.610 --> 00:04:22.129 saying oh we got a real treat for you here today. 00:04:22.129 --> 00:04:27.290 I feel like we You hear that everywhere Uh, oh 00:04:27.290 --> 00:04:29.269 folks, we got a real treat for you this afternoon 00:04:29.269 --> 00:04:32.470 jt. Thompson on the show, but jt. I think i've 00:04:32.470 --> 00:04:36.490 known you since um since taylor swift was born 00:04:36.490 --> 00:04:40.910 if 1989 is the year that She was born and she's 00:04:40.910 --> 00:04:43.550 got a record named 1989. I think we were around 00:04:43.550 --> 00:04:47.050 that period of the late 80s, fourth grade, fifth 00:04:47.050 --> 00:04:50.449 grade. Yeah, that sounds about right. You and 00:04:50.449 --> 00:04:54.310 my brother Rob were childhood friends. And then, 00:04:54.310 --> 00:04:55.810 you know, we kind of whizzed through the high 00:04:55.810 --> 00:04:59.250 school years and we found ourselves reunited 00:04:59.250 --> 00:05:05.209 again in our college days, early 2000s, kind 00:05:05.209 --> 00:05:08.879 of the blur period. Uh, Mellow Mushroom Pizza 00:05:08.879 --> 00:05:12.100 Bakers. That was a fun time. Yeah, that was just 00:05:12.100 --> 00:05:13.759 a great, that was a great time to be young and 00:05:13.759 --> 00:05:17.819 alive. Um, I just remember I was, I had kind 00:05:17.819 --> 00:05:20.720 of drifted out of college and through college 00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:22.459 and into college. And there was a handful of 00:05:22.459 --> 00:05:26.319 us that I wouldn't say that we were not, um, 00:05:26.480 --> 00:05:29.139 go -getters, but we just, I, I think that at 00:05:29.139 --> 00:05:30.759 least for my, I can only speak for myself. I 00:05:30.759 --> 00:05:32.480 didn't have a clear focus of what I wanted to 00:05:32.480 --> 00:05:34.060 do with the rest of my life after high school. 00:05:34.560 --> 00:05:36.540 I tell people I got my four year degree on the 00:05:36.540 --> 00:05:38.779 10 year program, but I feel like I was with some 00:05:38.779 --> 00:05:40.779 kindred spirits at Mellow Mushroom in that regard. 00:05:41.319 --> 00:05:42.980 But, you know, we just kind of found ourselves 00:05:42.980 --> 00:05:44.699 there and we weren't quite kids, but we really 00:05:44.699 --> 00:05:46.660 weren't quite adults. And it was just really 00:05:46.660 --> 00:05:48.959 a magical time in my life where I felt like the 00:05:48.959 --> 00:05:50.860 world was my oyster and just anything could happen. 00:05:50.879 --> 00:05:53.439 And I was, I just considered a real special time. 00:05:53.480 --> 00:05:55.699 It was just one of those things where if you've 00:05:55.699 --> 00:05:57.300 ever had a work experience where you're with 00:05:57.300 --> 00:06:00.019 other like minded people. and you kind of click 00:06:00.019 --> 00:06:02.360 and gel. It was really, a lot of people develop 00:06:02.360 --> 00:06:04.240 close friendships and people we still talk to 00:06:04.240 --> 00:06:06.600 to this day. It was just really, really a special 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:09.019 time in my life. And I look at it fondly and 00:06:09.019 --> 00:06:10.639 of course working there with you and Jim and 00:06:10.639 --> 00:06:12.800 Dave and a bunch of other people. I mean, there's 00:06:12.800 --> 00:06:15.620 a huge list of people that I still talk to and 00:06:15.620 --> 00:06:18.100 hang out with from those days. But yeah, it was 00:06:18.100 --> 00:06:20.500 just a great time to be alive. It was a real 00:06:20.500 --> 00:06:22.779 special time in my life. And I got a lot of fond 00:06:22.779 --> 00:06:25.600 memories of that, including reconnecting with 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:28.720 everybody. you have that experience with people 00:06:28.720 --> 00:06:30.819 and those memories with people where you know 00:06:30.819 --> 00:06:32.720 I've known you since elementary school and then 00:06:32.720 --> 00:06:34.439 middle school and high school and college and 00:06:34.439 --> 00:06:36.699 now in adulthood and everything it's like I really 00:06:36.699 --> 00:06:40.740 as I get older I'll be 46 in July I try and appreciate 00:06:40.740 --> 00:06:42.879 all the seasons of life as they come but it's 00:06:42.879 --> 00:06:44.639 nice when you get to talk to somebody and kind 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:47.120 of go down memory lane and talk about things 00:06:47.120 --> 00:06:50.120 and tell stories and and whatnot it's just it's 00:06:50.120 --> 00:06:52.339 really really good it's one of those one of those 00:06:52.339 --> 00:06:54.560 things about life that I really enjoy in my older 00:06:54.560 --> 00:06:56.259 year or getting getting older years I got up 00:06:56.259 --> 00:06:59.319 until Still technically a middle age, but I feel 00:06:59.319 --> 00:07:02.860 a little older every day, maybe. I can relate 00:07:02.860 --> 00:07:06.439 there. Yeah, back in those days, we were in our 00:07:06.439 --> 00:07:10.860 kind of mid -20s, and it felt like we were around, 00:07:11.540 --> 00:07:14.079 like you said, kindred spirits. Sometimes when 00:07:14.079 --> 00:07:18.920 you're 26, you're not doing the same thing that 00:07:18.920 --> 00:07:23.980 sky -high achievers at 20, 21, 22 years old are 00:07:23.980 --> 00:07:26.680 doing and shooting for. You're just kind of Not 00:07:26.680 --> 00:07:29.740 really sure yet, but you know that you've got, 00:07:29.939 --> 00:07:31.879 there's something there, but you haven't figured 00:07:31.879 --> 00:07:35.240 it out yet. And you're not particularly in a 00:07:35.240 --> 00:07:37.519 big rush to figure it all out either. You're 00:07:37.519 --> 00:07:40.259 just, I felt like we were enjoying the moment. 00:07:40.980 --> 00:07:43.800 Sure. Yeah. I know. Trying to, trying to shake 00:07:43.800 --> 00:07:46.680 it all out, I guess. Yeah. There's a lot of ways 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:49.000 to, there's a lot of ways to approach life and 00:07:49.000 --> 00:07:51.800 tackle life and You know, I, God bless the people 00:07:51.800 --> 00:07:53.399 that have it all figured out and know exactly 00:07:53.399 --> 00:07:54.959 what they want to do and they have a very defined 00:07:54.959 --> 00:07:56.959 path, but I was never really one of those people. 00:07:57.279 --> 00:07:59.860 And I kind of drifted from thing to thing and 00:07:59.860 --> 00:08:02.899 trying different stuff. And I was going to college 00:08:02.899 --> 00:08:05.319 when we were working on, most of us were in college 00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:07.639 or some sort of grad school or something like 00:08:07.639 --> 00:08:09.800 that. But I really, I still didn't know really 00:08:09.800 --> 00:08:11.779 what I wanted to do. But I like, it's kind of 00:08:11.779 --> 00:08:14.600 like you said, looking back at it now, I'm, I 00:08:14.600 --> 00:08:17.399 wouldn't trade the way that my You know, my 20s 00:08:17.399 --> 00:08:19.540 and 30s shook out for anything in the world because 00:08:19.540 --> 00:08:23.040 I really felt like I squeezed all the juice out 00:08:23.040 --> 00:08:25.480 of that fruit. You know, there's a lot of life 00:08:25.480 --> 00:08:27.920 to be lived out there. And, you know, again, 00:08:27.959 --> 00:08:30.259 I'm not saying anything bad about anybody that 00:08:30.259 --> 00:08:32.179 goes to school or goes right to college and then 00:08:32.179 --> 00:08:34.480 starts working. But I feel like, you know, I 00:08:34.480 --> 00:08:36.919 was able to live a lot of life and we were able 00:08:36.919 --> 00:08:39.559 to live a lot of life. And we did a lot of things, 00:08:39.559 --> 00:08:41.879 man, like that. You know, I really feel like 00:08:41.879 --> 00:08:46.139 I... lived every bit of my youth that I could, 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:48.200 because I didn't just go right, if I'd have gone 00:08:48.200 --> 00:08:51.440 right to college out of high school and got right 00:08:51.440 --> 00:08:53.299 into a job, I would have missed out on all these 00:08:53.299 --> 00:08:56.600 things that I did. I mean, I did kind of, I was 00:08:56.600 --> 00:08:58.200 kind of a ship without a rudder for a little 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:00.740 bit there, but those experiences and those times 00:09:00.740 --> 00:09:03.179 in my life, you know, I kind of waited, what 00:09:03.179 --> 00:09:06.120 people might call a failure to launch, but one 00:09:06.120 --> 00:09:07.980 person's, you know, bad experience is another 00:09:07.980 --> 00:09:10.919 person's joy, so. I think it was just a fantastic 00:09:10.919 --> 00:09:13.679 time to be around, like I said, a group of people 00:09:13.679 --> 00:09:15.980 that were kind of doing the same thing. It was 00:09:15.980 --> 00:09:17.960 just really, really good the way that we all 00:09:17.960 --> 00:09:21.679 kind of clicked and bonded. Isn't it wild? Like 00:09:21.679 --> 00:09:24.080 now, present day, someone walks into your shop 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:26.279 and they've never met you before and they probably 00:09:26.279 --> 00:09:28.220 just think, wow, he's been doing this for years. 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:32.519 This is, uh, this is his brand. This is JT and 00:09:32.519 --> 00:09:36.159 they just have no, nobody really thinks, you 00:09:36.159 --> 00:09:40.399 know, here we are 2024. I kind of want to speak 00:09:40.399 --> 00:09:44.100 to some people listening. If you're ashamed or 00:09:44.100 --> 00:09:46.100 you think that, man, it should have been a little 00:09:46.100 --> 00:09:51.019 more straight and narrow back there in 2012 or 00:09:51.019 --> 00:09:54.879 2014 when I was screwing around, the people aren't 00:09:54.879 --> 00:09:56.899 judging you about that stuff. There's always 00:09:56.899 --> 00:09:59.840 a chance to kind of reinvent yourself and just 00:09:59.840 --> 00:10:02.799 sometimes lay back and float and try to do the 00:10:02.799 --> 00:10:04.799 right thing and you'll wind up in the right place. 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:08.559 So I understand that you, when you did, when 00:10:08.559 --> 00:10:11.299 you graduated and got your degree in communications 00:10:11.299 --> 00:10:14.679 management, you took a job that was pretty well 00:10:14.679 --> 00:10:17.019 paying and you felt like, oh, this feels like 00:10:17.019 --> 00:10:19.940 the right thing to do, but you weren't completely 00:10:19.940 --> 00:10:24.279 satisfied. Yeah, sure. So, um, I'll, I'll go, 00:10:24.639 --> 00:10:26.379 I'll start back a little bit further than that, 00:10:26.379 --> 00:10:28.779 if that's okay. I, uh, I graduated high school 00:10:28.779 --> 00:10:32.700 in 97 and I, in high school, I originally had 00:10:32.700 --> 00:10:35.399 wanted to do what I'm doing now, which is I'm 00:10:35.399 --> 00:10:37.720 a barber and I'd wanted to do that then, but 00:10:37.720 --> 00:10:40.480 my parents had kind of, as a lot of our parents 00:10:40.480 --> 00:10:43.139 in this age range did, they kind of urged me 00:10:43.139 --> 00:10:45.580 to go to college because that was kind of the 00:10:45.580 --> 00:10:47.440 path that their lives had taken. That's really 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:50.539 all that they knew. And in 97, that was a very 00:10:50.539 --> 00:10:52.919 common thought that that's the next logical step 00:10:52.919 --> 00:10:55.799 in your progress. So I did go to college, but 00:10:55.799 --> 00:10:58.539 I would take time off and, you know, change majors 00:10:58.539 --> 00:11:00.200 a lot and I would work a little bit here and 00:11:00.200 --> 00:11:02.019 there and do a bunch of stuff. And I really did 00:11:02.019 --> 00:11:04.080 enjoy getting into communications management. 00:11:04.279 --> 00:11:07.259 And I would have, but if I had stayed in communications 00:11:07.259 --> 00:11:08.679 management, I probably would have stayed and 00:11:08.679 --> 00:11:10.980 gotten my master's and then my PhD in communications 00:11:10.980 --> 00:11:13.259 and become a professor and then taught and done 00:11:13.259 --> 00:11:15.720 research. But you know, life has a weird way 00:11:15.720 --> 00:11:17.840 of taking you to places. So like you said, I, 00:11:17.879 --> 00:11:20.320 when I was getting ready to graduate, I applied 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:22.779 for about 12 different jobs. I interviewed for 00:11:22.779 --> 00:11:25.480 six. I was offered three and I ended up taking 00:11:25.480 --> 00:11:27.639 because I had student loans and needed to catch 00:11:27.639 --> 00:11:29.500 up on some debt. I took the one that was the 00:11:29.500 --> 00:11:31.360 money. and that ended up being something that 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:33.440 was completely unrelated to what my degree was 00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:35.120 in, but I ended up staying with that company 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:36.899 and kind of moving up the ranks and into several 00:11:36.899 --> 00:11:39.039 different jobs over the course of about four 00:11:39.039 --> 00:11:42.100 years. So around the four and a half year mark, 00:11:42.279 --> 00:11:45.399 I decided I was ready to go. And so I wanted 00:11:45.399 --> 00:11:48.700 to get into a job that I thought I would actually 00:11:48.700 --> 00:11:50.919 be using my degree and I'd be doing some sort 00:11:50.919 --> 00:11:52.480 of like writing or something creative, which 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:53.940 is really what I wanted to do. And I went to 00:11:53.940 --> 00:11:56.940 work at a publishing company under the guise 00:11:56.940 --> 00:12:00.620 of working, selling ads, but eventually Being 00:12:00.620 --> 00:12:03.059 able to move into a creative capacity. So I did 00:12:03.059 --> 00:12:05.100 that for a while and I realized very quickly 00:12:05.100 --> 00:12:07.799 that it was just kind of a for lack of a better 00:12:07.799 --> 00:12:09.860 way to say in a boiler room type of situation 00:12:09.860 --> 00:12:12.279 where there really wasn't any light at the end 00:12:12.279 --> 00:12:14.440 of the tunnel and so this was around the time 00:12:14.440 --> 00:12:17.200 that my my daughter my second daughter was born 00:12:17.200 --> 00:12:19.720 so we got two girls were 12 and 14 now they were 00:12:19.720 --> 00:12:22.980 much younger than but at the time childcare for 00:12:22.980 --> 00:12:25.320 two children was more than our mortgage so I 00:12:25.320 --> 00:12:28.059 elected to go back to bouncing and and cooking 00:12:28.059 --> 00:12:30.970 and bartending and Staying home with them during 00:12:30.970 --> 00:12:32.429 the day for two years and then I would work in 00:12:32.429 --> 00:12:33.990 the late afternoons and evenings So I did that 00:12:33.990 --> 00:12:36.230 for a while and then after that I kind of got 00:12:36.230 --> 00:12:38.850 hired out to another I wouldn't buy they were 00:12:38.850 --> 00:12:41.169 going to elementary school I got into another 00:12:41.169 --> 00:12:43.370 job basically working as an operations manager 00:12:43.370 --> 00:12:45.029 for a company and then I got hired away from 00:12:45.029 --> 00:12:46.629 there to be an operations manager for another 00:12:46.629 --> 00:12:49.230 company and did that for two years and that was 00:12:49.230 --> 00:12:51.669 about the time that I realized That I wanted 00:12:51.669 --> 00:12:54.750 to go back kind of to how I felt in the 90s when 00:12:54.750 --> 00:12:58.799 I wanted to be a barber so in my late 30s I came 00:12:58.799 --> 00:13:00.659 home and told my wife that I was sick of kind 00:13:00.659 --> 00:13:02.539 of going from job to job and not knowing what 00:13:02.539 --> 00:13:04.600 I wanted to do and that I wanted to give this 00:13:04.600 --> 00:13:06.460 a try and that I would hope that she would support 00:13:06.460 --> 00:13:08.700 me and be understanding and I went and talked 00:13:08.700 --> 00:13:10.720 to the local barber in my neighborhood about 00:13:10.720 --> 00:13:12.539 being a barber and I went to the school where 00:13:12.539 --> 00:13:14.279 I was thinking about going and talked to the 00:13:14.279 --> 00:13:17.259 owner there and so I kind of tried to make the 00:13:17.259 --> 00:13:20.559 most educated moves that I could before I just 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:23.460 completely jumped ship but what ended up happening 00:13:23.460 --> 00:13:26.080 was I went to barber school and I got out and 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:29.009 I started working at a shop And after about six 00:13:29.009 --> 00:13:30.610 months there, I went to another shop. And then 00:13:30.610 --> 00:13:33.570 really, the the women that own that shop kind 00:13:33.570 --> 00:13:36.629 of took me under their wings and showed me what 00:13:36.629 --> 00:13:40.470 really being a working barber is like and how 00:13:40.470 --> 00:13:42.230 to make a career out of it and how to make it 00:13:42.230 --> 00:13:43.909 work. And I worked there for two and a half years 00:13:43.909 --> 00:13:46.149 and then my family relocated and I worked at 00:13:46.149 --> 00:13:49.009 another shop in Dothan for three years. And the 00:13:49.009 --> 00:13:52.289 owner of that shop, again, kind of like showed 00:13:52.289 --> 00:13:54.769 me what it was like to own a shop and how to 00:13:54.769 --> 00:13:57.259 be a good owner and how to be cognizant of what 00:13:57.259 --> 00:14:00.240 you're doing and I tried to learn from both of 00:14:00.240 --> 00:14:01.779 those people that had been in the business for 00:14:01.779 --> 00:14:04.519 longer than me and then when we moved back to 00:14:04.519 --> 00:14:07.080 Birmingham about six months ago I went back to 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:09.039 the shop I was working at before we left and 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:11.960 ended up buying it so I've been in the industry 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:15.000 for coming up on I guess eight or nine years 00:14:15.000 --> 00:14:18.720 now and it was not an easy decision in terms 00:14:18.720 --> 00:14:21.279 of feeling like exactly kind of what you were 00:14:21.279 --> 00:14:24.019 talking about that you have this education, you 00:14:24.019 --> 00:14:25.220 have this thing that you're doing and you're 00:14:25.220 --> 00:14:26.879 really kind of having to reinvent the wheel where 00:14:26.879 --> 00:14:30.120 you have a family situation and a construct where 00:14:30.120 --> 00:14:32.340 everything is going through these motions and 00:14:32.340 --> 00:14:34.779 you have things depending on you. But I'm very 00:14:34.779 --> 00:14:38.139 thankful to my wife and children for understanding 00:14:38.139 --> 00:14:40.179 what I was after and what I wanted to do and 00:14:40.179 --> 00:14:42.740 having the faith in me and belief in me enough 00:14:42.740 --> 00:14:45.120 to realize that I could make that work. And it's 00:14:45.120 --> 00:14:47.889 been just the greatest thing. That's ever happened. 00:14:47.929 --> 00:14:50.169 You know, I say it's it's better late than never 00:14:50.169 --> 00:14:51.909 and like you said It's never too late to figure 00:14:51.909 --> 00:14:53.590 out what you want to do or to make a change and 00:14:53.590 --> 00:14:56.929 I did it at almost 40 and if I can do it that 00:14:56.929 --> 00:14:59.409 means that anybody can do it if you have You 00:14:59.409 --> 00:15:01.250 know the right systems around you and again enough 00:15:01.250 --> 00:15:03.029 belief in yourself and what you're doing if you 00:15:03.029 --> 00:15:05.009 have enough passion about it You can pretty much 00:15:05.009 --> 00:15:07.850 make anything work I think You're absolutely 00:15:07.850 --> 00:15:10.750 right on that level. And I like what you said 00:15:10.750 --> 00:15:15.549 about your rock your wife Olivia being there 00:15:15.549 --> 00:15:19.389 to support you, that's so huge for people that 00:15:19.389 --> 00:15:21.169 are trying to follow their dreams, and they're 00:15:21.169 --> 00:15:24.330 also trying to support their family. At the top 00:15:24.330 --> 00:15:26.149 of the episode, I probably was thinking, how 00:15:26.149 --> 00:15:32.049 do I bill JT here? JT the barber, JT my friend, 00:15:32.590 --> 00:15:36.570 JT the coast and drive, Jim's gonna be upset 00:15:36.570 --> 00:15:38.649 here, but the driving force behind the Gimme 00:15:38.649 --> 00:15:41.990 10 podcast. But we're kinda talking about it, 00:15:41.990 --> 00:15:45.879 it's multiple hats here, but. Jtthebarber .com, 00:15:46.179 --> 00:15:47.860 this will all be in the show notes, but I wanted 00:15:47.860 --> 00:15:50.440 to put it at the top of the episode. Folks, you 00:15:50.440 --> 00:15:53.299 can also find him on Instagram and Facebook. 00:15:54.259 --> 00:15:57.759 Yeah, I think it's facebook .com forward slash 00:15:57.759 --> 00:16:01.759 Jtcuttshair and then on Instagram, because Jtthebarber 00:16:01.759 --> 00:16:04.899 was taken, that my actual Instagram handle is 00:16:04.899 --> 00:16:07.799 Jtthebarber D -O -T -C -O -N, so the dot com 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:12.200 is spelled out. Now, so let's get to it here. 00:16:13.220 --> 00:16:16.759 present day in the shop. I was thinking about 00:16:16.759 --> 00:16:19.519 this this morning. Everybody remembers, especially 00:16:19.519 --> 00:16:23.379 if you're a guy at seven years old, eight, nine, 00:16:23.960 --> 00:16:26.860 you know, up to 10 or 11 or 12, what it was like 00:16:26.860 --> 00:16:30.080 when you went to the barbershop at that age when 00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:32.419 your dad, your mom would take you on those Saturday 00:16:32.419 --> 00:16:37.340 afternoons. JT, how exciting is it for you when 00:16:37.340 --> 00:16:39.840 that kid walks in and he's excited to see you 00:16:39.840 --> 00:16:42.600 because, you know, I mean... compared to the 00:16:42.600 --> 00:16:45.460 average person you've got, I would say you're 00:16:45.460 --> 00:16:48.220 a brand. You have a likeness, you've got an image, 00:16:48.279 --> 00:16:50.360 and you're kind of cool for kids, I think, if 00:16:50.360 --> 00:16:52.340 they walk in and it's like, well, there's JT. 00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:55.519 And there's the guy in the sign or on the bumper 00:16:55.519 --> 00:16:59.200 sticker. How much of that is just really rewarding 00:16:59.200 --> 00:17:03.279 for you to make it fun for them? Sure. I mean, 00:17:03.299 --> 00:17:05.299 it's absolutely the best feeling in the world. 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:08.180 And when I first wanted to be a barber when I 00:17:08.180 --> 00:17:10.750 was younger, it was kind of... exactly what you're 00:17:10.750 --> 00:17:12.329 talking about. Like when I went to the barber 00:17:12.329 --> 00:17:16.170 shop there was just a bunch of men and kids cutting 00:17:16.170 --> 00:17:18.829 up and having a good time and just hanging out 00:17:18.829 --> 00:17:20.670 and like it was like you know you always got 00:17:20.670 --> 00:17:22.789 a sucker or some chewing gum or something when 00:17:22.789 --> 00:17:25.329 you got done and like the barber always knew 00:17:25.329 --> 00:17:27.390 your name and asked you like you know how baseball 00:17:27.390 --> 00:17:29.470 was going or whatever like you felt special and 00:17:29.470 --> 00:17:31.369 like you look good when you left you had a little 00:17:31.369 --> 00:17:33.730 spring in your step and like at the center of 00:17:33.730 --> 00:17:36.230 that universe there were people that were making 00:17:36.230 --> 00:17:39.240 a living doing that and being that every day. 00:17:39.359 --> 00:17:41.700 And so I really held onto that for a kid. I just 00:17:41.700 --> 00:17:43.119 thought that was just the coolest thing in the 00:17:43.119 --> 00:17:44.619 world. And also there was something that was 00:17:44.619 --> 00:17:49.779 just very uniquely manly and strong about a barbershop 00:17:49.779 --> 00:17:51.779 and a barbershop experience. It was just kind 00:17:51.779 --> 00:17:55.079 of something that was almost clandestine or like 00:17:55.079 --> 00:17:58.099 a part of a secret world that was for men, you 00:17:58.099 --> 00:18:00.279 know, and that really resonated with me when 00:18:00.279 --> 00:18:04.470 I was young. And so as an adult, I really knew 00:18:04.470 --> 00:18:06.410 that I wanted to do something where I was working 00:18:06.410 --> 00:18:08.710 with people because I really do genuinely love 00:18:08.710 --> 00:18:10.369 people and love talking to people and getting 00:18:10.369 --> 00:18:13.250 to know people and I love relationships and all 00:18:13.250 --> 00:18:16.569 of that. But also working with my hands and then 00:18:16.569 --> 00:18:19.029 part of kind of what you're talking about is 00:18:19.029 --> 00:18:21.630 trying to recreate that feeling that I had when 00:18:21.630 --> 00:18:24.630 I was a kid and not just with, you know, children 00:18:24.630 --> 00:18:26.910 whose hair I cut but with also adults I cut and 00:18:26.910 --> 00:18:29.150 it's such a wonderful two -way street because 00:18:29.440 --> 00:18:32.460 when I when I look at my schedule and I see oh 00:18:32.460 --> 00:18:35.559 sweet like you know this guy's coming in on Thursday 00:18:35.559 --> 00:18:37.759 and I can't wait to ask him about his car or 00:18:37.759 --> 00:18:40.339 his trip to California or whatever it is and 00:18:40.339 --> 00:18:42.799 then like you really start to make these great 00:18:42.799 --> 00:18:44.920 friendships with people and build a sense of 00:18:44.920 --> 00:18:46.579 community around the people that come to see 00:18:46.579 --> 00:18:49.519 you and um it's really just a blessing to be 00:18:49.519 --> 00:18:53.680 able to do what I do because it is it's what 00:18:53.680 --> 00:18:55.920 is important to me and what I like and I'm not 00:18:55.920 --> 00:18:58.599 it's not lost on me that people wake up every 00:18:58.599 --> 00:19:00.400 day and go to a job that they hate and grind 00:19:00.400 --> 00:19:02.819 it out and just suffer through it 40 hours a 00:19:02.819 --> 00:19:05.400 week or more and like I really enjoy like waking 00:19:05.400 --> 00:19:07.079 up in the morning and like go to the shop and 00:19:07.079 --> 00:19:08.680 like walking in the door and like looking at 00:19:08.680 --> 00:19:11.259 the place and like see like I mean we the shop's 00:19:11.259 --> 00:19:14.619 been there since 1967 all of the barber chairs 00:19:14.619 --> 00:19:16.720 are super old I mean they still have the ashtrays 00:19:16.720 --> 00:19:18.960 in them it's just a very like this just an old 00:19:18.960 --> 00:19:20.779 wrought iron magazine rack it's just like your 00:19:20.779 --> 00:19:22.799 very classic old school barber shop and I just 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:24.970 really I count my blessings about being able 00:19:24.970 --> 00:19:26.950 to go there every day and do that and do it with 00:19:26.950 --> 00:19:29.369 the people that I do and the people that I call 00:19:29.369 --> 00:19:31.430 my customers and friends. It's just, it's so 00:19:31.430 --> 00:19:32.990 rewarding. And it's the same thing with kids. 00:19:33.430 --> 00:19:35.329 Like when a kid comes in and you like remember 00:19:35.329 --> 00:19:37.990 his name or remember what he's into, or you ask 00:19:37.990 --> 00:19:40.170 them about how something went, it really is like. 00:19:40.750 --> 00:19:43.829 You get that little glimpse of him feeling special 00:19:43.829 --> 00:19:45.970 and having that little burst of self -esteem 00:19:45.970 --> 00:19:48.349 and self -worth. And that's a wonderful feeling. 00:19:49.450 --> 00:19:53.129 And some of the old guys too, they may. Have 00:19:53.129 --> 00:19:55.990 lost their life or there don't really have a 00:19:55.990 --> 00:19:57.890 lot of people to talk to they probably really 00:19:57.890 --> 00:20:00.890 look forward to that day on the calendar where 00:20:00.890 --> 00:20:04.690 they get to go sit in your chair and Yuck it 00:20:04.690 --> 00:20:08.009 up for sure. Yeah. Yeah, we've got a couple guys 00:20:08.009 --> 00:20:10.930 that Well, okay. So there's one guy that comes 00:20:10.930 --> 00:20:13.769 into the barbershop every single day. His name 00:20:13.769 --> 00:20:16.109 is Lynn thrash He was the second owner of the 00:20:16.109 --> 00:20:19.970 barbershop. He sold the shop to the owner previous 00:20:19.970 --> 00:20:23.920 to me and he still has his own pee he comes every 00:20:23.920 --> 00:20:26.160 morning and eats breakfast at the hot dog stand 00:20:26.160 --> 00:20:28.240 across the street and then he comes and lets 00:20:28.240 --> 00:20:30.680 himself in and he'll just stay there for an hour 00:20:30.680 --> 00:20:32.440 and a half or whatever just talk to everybody 00:20:32.440 --> 00:20:34.119 and then he leaves and that's just because of 00:20:34.119 --> 00:20:37.160 the fact that you know for such a long time that's 00:20:37.160 --> 00:20:41.039 been his his um his place you know so he's that 00:20:41.039 --> 00:20:42.960 still resonates with him i mean he's in his 90s 00:20:42.960 --> 00:20:44.599 and every day he comes in and everybody sees 00:20:44.599 --> 00:20:46.640 him and he's just he's a lot of fun he tells 00:20:46.640 --> 00:20:48.819 funny jokes and he's got a real big personality 00:20:48.819 --> 00:20:51.150 and i'm I'm thankful that he's still a part of 00:20:51.150 --> 00:20:55.130 the shop. But, you know, kind of to what you're 00:20:55.130 --> 00:20:56.690 saying, there's some other people that come in 00:20:56.690 --> 00:20:59.329 every week and sometimes they come in between 00:20:59.329 --> 00:21:00.789 haircuts. And I think it's kind of what you're 00:21:00.789 --> 00:21:03.109 talking about. It's almost like you've got this 00:21:03.109 --> 00:21:06.210 cheers kind of vibe where, you know, if you come 00:21:06.210 --> 00:21:07.910 there long enough, people know who you are and 00:21:07.910 --> 00:21:10.369 they recognize you. And even if it may not be 00:21:10.369 --> 00:21:13.069 your customer, you know that person and you know 00:21:13.069 --> 00:21:14.490 kind of like what they're going through or what 00:21:14.490 --> 00:21:16.089 they've been through or what's happening in their 00:21:16.089 --> 00:21:18.730 life. you know again there's just not many places 00:21:18.730 --> 00:21:22.049 i know of that are that are like that so um i 00:21:22.049 --> 00:21:24.410 do think that holds a special place for for people 00:21:24.410 --> 00:21:26.410 and like you said i mean that's that's some people 00:21:26.410 --> 00:21:28.410 the only social interaction you know there's 00:21:28.410 --> 00:21:30.049 there's one guy that comes and he comes in every 00:21:30.049 --> 00:21:31.809 week to get his hair cut he has no family in 00:21:31.809 --> 00:21:34.529 town never married doesn't have any kids doesn't 00:21:34.529 --> 00:21:36.990 have any friends around him i literally think 00:21:36.990 --> 00:21:39.170 that like you said i think coming to the barbershop 00:21:39.170 --> 00:21:41.170 is probably the social highlight of his week 00:21:41.170 --> 00:21:45.210 i wanted to Call out a couple reviews too. So 00:21:45.210 --> 00:21:48.549 folks, if you live in Birmingham, if you travel 00:21:48.549 --> 00:21:50.950 on your way up to Nashville through Birmingham, 00:21:51.109 --> 00:21:54.589 you need to stop and get a haircut. By all means, 00:21:55.650 --> 00:21:58.230 stop in the Village Inn and see JT. But a couple 00:21:58.230 --> 00:22:01.730 reviews here, JT. Fantastic value for the money. 00:22:02.029 --> 00:22:05.730 A great neighborhood vibe. Good music and conversation 00:22:05.730 --> 00:22:09.690 and clean space. JT is a master at attention 00:22:09.690 --> 00:22:12.210 to detail and takes his time with every customer. 00:22:12.910 --> 00:22:16.269 That's one and then JT is as professional down 00:22:16.269 --> 00:22:19.230 -to -earth fun to talk to and goes out of his 00:22:19.230 --> 00:22:22.869 way to answer questions highly recommended a 00:22:22.869 --> 00:22:26.109 lot of feedback here on the page and That's got 00:22:26.109 --> 00:22:28.890 to make you happy too that you're making a difference 00:22:28.890 --> 00:22:34.109 there Yeah, I mean again, I think of where I 00:22:34.109 --> 00:22:36.809 am in my career and my brand and everything that 00:22:36.809 --> 00:22:40.529 that is is Really a culmination of my life experience 00:22:40.529 --> 00:22:43.680 over not only going to college, but working in 00:22:43.680 --> 00:22:45.799 various fields and doing different things. I 00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:49.880 think that you really learn about what customers 00:22:49.880 --> 00:22:52.079 want and what people want and how you should 00:22:52.079 --> 00:22:54.339 do things and how you shouldn't do things. And, 00:22:54.339 --> 00:22:56.819 you know, when I think about bad experiences 00:22:56.819 --> 00:23:00.759 I've had in places, I try and do the opposite 00:23:00.759 --> 00:23:03.700 of what that was. And I think that it's really 00:23:03.700 --> 00:23:08.119 kind of amazing if you give people a little bit 00:23:08.119 --> 00:23:11.200 and you give people a little bit more how much 00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:13.480 more that pays off and how much people do appreciate 00:23:13.480 --> 00:23:16.880 that. I was gone, I moved out of Hoover for three 00:23:16.880 --> 00:23:19.779 years. And when I was coming back to town, I 00:23:19.779 --> 00:23:21.420 sent out a bunch of emails and of course, did 00:23:21.420 --> 00:23:23.460 social media posts to reach back out to my customers. 00:23:23.539 --> 00:23:26.880 And it's amazing how after three years, so many 00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:29.119 of my customers came back and I'm just really 00:23:29.119 --> 00:23:32.259 so thankful for that. And I think again, I'm 00:23:32.259 --> 00:23:33.880 not trying to tube my own horn, but I think that 00:23:33.880 --> 00:23:36.490 really speaks to. the experience that people 00:23:36.490 --> 00:23:38.329 have when they come to the shop and when they 00:23:38.329 --> 00:23:41.250 come and get a haircut. And it just means a lot 00:23:41.250 --> 00:23:44.490 to me that people feel that way. And I've been 00:23:44.490 --> 00:23:47.269 very lucky on social media groups and kind of, 00:23:47.309 --> 00:23:50.289 I do think it's important that if you're building 00:23:50.289 --> 00:23:51.710 a brand and you're trying to have something, 00:23:51.890 --> 00:23:54.329 you don't just, if you're a restaurant, you can't 00:23:54.329 --> 00:23:57.349 post every picture of food or anything like that. 00:23:57.349 --> 00:23:58.710 I mean, you have to break it up and you have 00:23:58.710 --> 00:24:00.609 to decide kind of what your brand is and what 00:24:00.609 --> 00:24:03.809 you want yourself to be and how you want to face 00:24:04.079 --> 00:24:07.859 toward the world and that's super important when 00:24:07.859 --> 00:24:09.519 you're when you're looking at a business or when 00:24:09.519 --> 00:24:11.000 you're building a brand you know you have to 00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:14.500 think about that and like my personality I think 00:24:14.500 --> 00:24:16.740 that that having some humor and having some things 00:24:16.740 --> 00:24:19.440 that are funny and silly and light -hearted kind 00:24:19.440 --> 00:24:21.579 of matches who I am and it matches the experience 00:24:21.579 --> 00:24:23.720 when you come to the barbershop so it's it's 00:24:23.720 --> 00:24:26.039 totally on brand but again if you're you know 00:24:26.039 --> 00:24:27.920 if you're running a spa or something like that 00:24:27.920 --> 00:24:29.880 you might not be fortunate enough to be able 00:24:29.880 --> 00:24:32.710 to show that side of yourself but for For me, 00:24:32.710 --> 00:24:34.490 it totally works, but that's, you know, again, 00:24:34.529 --> 00:24:36.769 that's part of what I want in my brand to be. 00:24:37.690 --> 00:24:40.950 Well, we could talk about, um, JT, the barber 00:24:40.950 --> 00:24:44.609 and, uh, I could spend another episode. We look, 00:24:44.650 --> 00:24:46.809 let's not kid ourselves. I've got to, I talked 00:24:46.809 --> 00:24:49.069 to you before we got started on the call here. 00:24:49.450 --> 00:24:52.190 I got to catch you up with Jim. So I'm not saying 00:24:52.190 --> 00:24:54.490 I'm bringing you right back in two weeks, but, 00:24:54.549 --> 00:24:57.730 uh, we got to get a little, a whole horse race 00:24:57.730 --> 00:25:04.859 going here or whatever you call it. The whole 00:25:04.859 --> 00:25:06.980 podcast thing and the Give Me Ten thing is almost 00:25:06.980 --> 00:25:11.160 a whole other conversation. Having a podcast, 00:25:11.339 --> 00:25:14.359 as you know, after almost 30 episodes, man, it 00:25:14.359 --> 00:25:17.579 takes on a life of its own at some point. It's 00:25:17.579 --> 00:25:20.779 just so much fun to do, man. I understand why 00:25:20.779 --> 00:25:22.359 there are so many podcasts out there because 00:25:22.359 --> 00:25:25.119 having and doing a podcast is so fantastic, so 00:25:25.119 --> 00:25:29.480 much fun. On that end, I should have said this 00:25:29.480 --> 00:25:32.410 with Jim, but you guys really Should take a victory 00:25:32.410 --> 00:25:38.309 lap, a bow. 134 total episodes of Gimme 10. You 00:25:38.309 --> 00:25:40.869 did, I think that's right, about 124 before the 00:25:40.869 --> 00:25:45.410 reboot. And people, you know, understand something 00:25:45.410 --> 00:25:48.049 with podcasts. I consider everything to be a 00:25:48.049 --> 00:25:51.529 project, unless you're Mark Maron or Joe Rogan 00:25:51.529 --> 00:25:54.900 or some of the just established podcasters. My 00:25:54.900 --> 00:25:56.720 goal, I've never stated it, this is the first 00:25:56.720 --> 00:26:00.000 time I'll say, but is 52 episodes. So that's 00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:03.240 one episode a week, four a year. That's always 00:26:03.240 --> 00:26:05.640 been my goal. So if I get to August, whatever 00:26:05.640 --> 00:26:09.900 it will be, episode 52, and I'm satisfied, that 00:26:09.900 --> 00:26:14.279 might be the end of Dan Time. Might be. But you 00:26:14.279 --> 00:26:17.119 know as well as I do that it's a lot more than 00:26:17.119 --> 00:26:20.819 just plugging in a mic and talking and having 00:26:20.819 --> 00:26:23.180 a good time with the guest. it's a little bit 00:26:23.180 --> 00:26:26.839 of work and a little bit of strategy and scheduling 00:26:26.839 --> 00:26:31.759 and uh and having especially with um a co -host 00:26:31.759 --> 00:26:34.400 having something to talk about that you both 00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:37.480 want to sink your teeth into where could i go 00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:39.440 with this i just first of all i want to say thanks 00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:42.440 for what you put out there the body of work folks 00:26:42.440 --> 00:26:46.339 thank you real quick here i mentioned this way 00:26:46.339 --> 00:26:49.079 back i think on episode number one which um some 00:26:49.079 --> 00:26:55.880 of the the topics that you dived into. Baby paraphernalia, 00:26:56.579 --> 00:27:02.259 pizza sandwich, french fries, the birthdays episode 00:27:02.259 --> 00:27:05.180 may be my all -time favorite. Oh wow, that's 00:27:05.180 --> 00:27:08.519 a good one. A lot of movies, the potpourri episodes, 00:27:08.740 --> 00:27:11.960 the fly on the wall stuff, just hilarious. And 00:27:11.960 --> 00:27:13.779 rasslin', I think you guys are kind of hanging 00:27:13.779 --> 00:27:21.910 out on the sidewalk. I think that was one of 00:27:21.910 --> 00:27:24.230 the episodes we did during COVID. So we were 00:27:24.230 --> 00:27:27.609 outside six feet apart. So there's probably like 00:27:27.609 --> 00:27:29.910 real cricket noises in the background, not like 00:27:29.910 --> 00:27:33.750 fake piped in crickets, but you know, we did 00:27:33.750 --> 00:27:35.910 the podcast during a very interesting time in 00:27:35.910 --> 00:27:37.529 a bunch of different ways. And it's kind of like 00:27:37.529 --> 00:27:39.369 what you're talking about, about having an idea 00:27:39.369 --> 00:27:42.599 and a concept. we had a very clear concept when 00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:46.440 we started Gimmie 10 and I just told Jim what 00:27:46.440 --> 00:27:48.640 that concept was and he was on board from day 00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:50.480 one and much like you and I we've known each 00:27:50.480 --> 00:27:52.619 other for so long it's just talking to each other 00:27:52.619 --> 00:27:55.680 is very easy and comes so naturally that you 00:27:55.680 --> 00:27:58.339 know him and I it's kind of insane like the only 00:27:58.339 --> 00:28:01.299 difference between before Gimmie 10 and after 00:28:01.299 --> 00:28:03.240 Gimmie 10 was like we put a microphone in the 00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:06.119 room like that's typically what Jim and I's life 00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:08.339 when we hang out is it's just like we're just 00:28:08.339 --> 00:28:12.000 hanging out and like talking about silly stuff 00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:15.039 and going over different things and just talking 00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:16.900 about, you know, talking about whatever, man. 00:28:16.900 --> 00:28:18.480 And we did, we just happened to put a mic in 00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:20.740 the room and put a time limit on it at the beginning. 00:28:20.940 --> 00:28:22.960 Um, but that, that was really, that's really 00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:24.720 all it was, man. And I think if you have the 00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:27.559 right people doing the right stuff, talking about 00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:29.440 the right things, man, you can catch that lightning 00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:32.339 in a bottle pretty easily. There's just some, 00:28:32.339 --> 00:28:34.180 some beautiful, I don't know, that's not even 00:28:34.180 --> 00:28:38.119 the right word, but just some, it's, it's elegant 00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:45.170 and it's unrefined quality. I just love every 00:28:45.170 --> 00:28:48.509 bit of it and I encourage everyone, even though 00:28:48.509 --> 00:28:51.670 it's the final episode, we've reached the end, 00:28:52.650 --> 00:28:56.269 the actual end. The second end, ending number 00:28:56.269 --> 00:29:00.089 two. You're gonna love it. If you've got 10 minutes, 00:29:00.190 --> 00:29:02.869 12 minutes, 14 minutes to drive somewhere And 00:29:02.869 --> 00:29:04.589 you're kind of stressed and you're going to a 00:29:04.589 --> 00:29:06.849 meeting or you're just you're whatever you're 00:29:06.849 --> 00:29:09.250 having one of those days put on a gimme 10 episode 00:29:09.250 --> 00:29:12.450 about Pizza sandwich or party foods and have 00:29:12.450 --> 00:29:15.009 a laugh for a second get yourself together It's 00:29:15.009 --> 00:29:17.950 awesome stuff jt, and I so thank you. Thank you 00:29:17.950 --> 00:29:22.549 for doing that Um, I got a few little wacky questions 00:29:22.549 --> 00:29:25.109 here. I promised you about 30 minutes and in 00:29:25.109 --> 00:29:29.380 true Dan time fashion. We are at about 33 minutes 00:29:29.380 --> 00:29:38.500 here All right What what are your thoughts when 00:29:38.500 --> 00:29:42.099 you're on the phone you got to reach out to technical 00:29:42.099 --> 00:29:44.819 support and they're helping you with some kind 00:29:44.819 --> 00:29:48.059 of some kind of issue with your computer or your 00:29:48.059 --> 00:29:50.960 internet and This is bother you some people don't 00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:54.920 even care but my Travis this grates on him. You're 00:29:54.920 --> 00:29:57.569 talking to your that representative and they 00:29:57.569 --> 00:30:00.809 start getting into that whispery, gravelly voice 00:30:00.809 --> 00:30:07.269 and they say like, hmm, let's see here. Hang 00:30:07.269 --> 00:30:10.750 on a second. Sorry, my computer's acting up right 00:30:10.750 --> 00:30:16.509 now. Hmm, let me see. Is that a problem for you 00:30:16.509 --> 00:30:17.849 or are you okay with that when you're on the 00:30:17.849 --> 00:30:21.049 line with somebody? No, I listen I don't care 00:30:21.049 --> 00:30:24.410 I think um humans and human nature is one of 00:30:24.410 --> 00:30:27.329 the most fascinating things about about life 00:30:27.329 --> 00:30:30.529 and examining that and as Somebody that's kind 00:30:30.529 --> 00:30:32.849 of like an amateur anthropologist I think that 00:30:32.849 --> 00:30:35.150 things like that and little quirks and stuff 00:30:35.150 --> 00:30:37.490 that people have are really really funny and 00:30:37.490 --> 00:30:39.450 it's also really funny too when you have one 00:30:39.450 --> 00:30:41.069 that you don't know about and somebody points 00:30:41.069 --> 00:30:44.029 it out to you like I was I'm really bad or was 00:30:44.029 --> 00:30:46.470 really bad for a while about When I was about 00:30:46.470 --> 00:30:48.589 to tell a story or try and make a point, I would 00:30:48.589 --> 00:30:51.309 say, listen, and then pause and then say whatever 00:30:51.309 --> 00:30:54.170 I want to say. So for example, I would say, listen, 00:30:54.769 --> 00:30:56.410 I'm going to tell you about blah, blah, blah, 00:30:56.410 --> 00:30:58.750 blah, blah. And so people around me started to 00:30:58.750 --> 00:31:00.990 like when we would be in a conversation, they'd 00:31:00.990 --> 00:31:03.450 say, listen, and then they would say whatever. 00:31:03.569 --> 00:31:05.009 I'm like, oh, you're mocking me. That's great. 00:31:05.089 --> 00:31:06.849 And like, I think that's so funny. So when people 00:31:06.849 --> 00:31:10.519 do that, then that may be kind of a As somebody 00:31:10.519 --> 00:31:12.559 who's worked in call centers and telemarketing 00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:14.119 and all kinds of stuff like that, that may be 00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:15.640 more a symptom of the fact that you're in a room 00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:18.119 with 30 people who are all talking to somebody, 00:31:18.500 --> 00:31:20.500 that you whisper or get quiet like that. But 00:31:20.500 --> 00:31:22.880 no, I don't think that's, it doesn't bother me 00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:24.339 at all. That's not one that gets under my skin. 00:31:24.420 --> 00:31:26.700 There are things that get under my skin, but 00:31:26.700 --> 00:31:29.559 that's not one of them. What about, let me place 00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:32.859 you on a brief hold. What is your idea of a brief 00:31:32.859 --> 00:31:37.380 hold versus their idea? I say a brief hold is 00:31:37.380 --> 00:31:39.940 two minutes or less, but anytime somebody tells 00:31:39.940 --> 00:31:41.619 me they're gonna put me on a brief hold, I'm 00:31:41.619 --> 00:31:47.019 expecting eight to 10. Would you like to stay 00:31:47.019 --> 00:31:49.460 on the line and take a brief survey after this 00:31:49.460 --> 00:31:54.369 call? What's your usual answer to that? It depends 00:31:54.369 --> 00:31:57.109 on if the if the rep was genuinely a nice person 00:31:57.109 --> 00:31:58.609 and they did a good job And they went out of 00:31:58.609 --> 00:32:00.450 their way to help me I'll do the survey to try 00:32:00.450 --> 00:32:02.730 and help them out But if they were just if it 00:32:02.730 --> 00:32:04.890 was just a dumpster fire of a phone call, I'm 00:32:04.890 --> 00:32:08.849 not staying on it anymore Okay, switching gears 00:32:08.849 --> 00:32:13.049 here a few 90s bands that you would have loved 00:32:13.049 --> 00:32:17.170 to have seen just one more record from Four non 00:32:17.170 --> 00:32:19.450 blonde and you can pick more than one four non 00:32:19.450 --> 00:32:25.599 blondes blind melon Jeff Buckley, unfortunate 00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:27.980 there we didn't get more music from him. New 00:32:27.980 --> 00:32:32.279 Radicals, Lauryn Hill, any of those? Yeah, I'm 00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:34.599 gonna actually say I'm gonna strike Four Non 00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:36.779 Blondes because I can't think of the name of 00:32:36.779 --> 00:32:39.099 like her name, but the singer from that band 00:32:39.099 --> 00:32:41.160 is actually a really prolific songwriter who 00:32:41.160 --> 00:32:43.480 had a very big career in music, though not as 00:32:43.480 --> 00:32:45.720 a front woman, but there's a lot of songs that 00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:48.700 she has writing credit or co -writing credit 00:32:48.700 --> 00:32:52.359 on, so. Jeff Buckley definitely super huge talent. 00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:53.980 That's a really good one. What were the other 00:32:53.980 --> 00:32:59.019 ones again? Oh, um Yeah, I mean blind blind melon 00:32:59.019 --> 00:33:01.579 I think I was not a big blind melon fan not that 00:33:01.579 --> 00:33:03.779 I've once wanted something bad to happen him 00:33:03.779 --> 00:33:07.000 but the new radicals I think that um What is 00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:08.680 there big do you get what you give or whatever? 00:33:09.019 --> 00:33:11.740 Um, I think yeah I think that's probably one 00:33:11.740 --> 00:33:14.460 of the most perfectly crafted pop songs of all 00:33:14.460 --> 00:33:17.299 of the history of pop music I mean they if you 00:33:17.299 --> 00:33:21.190 take and break down That song and how it works 00:33:21.190 --> 00:33:22.990 and like the song structure and the melodies 00:33:22.990 --> 00:33:25.529 everything I mean, that's that's about as close 00:33:25.529 --> 00:33:27.970 to a perfectly crafted pop song as you can get 00:33:27.970 --> 00:33:30.730 now He also has some songwriting credits to his 00:33:30.730 --> 00:33:32.569 name So he continued to work though not under 00:33:32.569 --> 00:33:35.130 the new radicals But there's another band that 00:33:35.130 --> 00:33:38.230 I really like that had a really really good record 00:33:38.230 --> 00:33:40.690 and they were kind of made famous by Beavis and 00:33:40.690 --> 00:33:42.190 Butthead or kind of they had their 15 minutes 00:33:42.190 --> 00:33:44.309 because of Beavis and Butthead but a band called 00:33:44.309 --> 00:33:46.930 Nude Swirl Which made kind of like an experimental 00:33:46.930 --> 00:33:49.619 rock record in the 90s The song that was on Beavis 00:33:49.619 --> 00:33:51.759 and Butthead was a song called F sharp. And I 00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:53.619 really have always enjoyed that song. And it's 00:33:53.619 --> 00:33:55.119 such a great album. I would have loved to have 00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:59.220 had more, more output from them. Wow. Who else 00:33:59.220 --> 00:34:02.319 was in there? I had Lauren Hill and I'm surprised. 00:34:02.539 --> 00:34:04.960 We all remember that time period, the late nineties. 00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:07.619 I mean, we're, we're plugged in and that was 00:34:07.619 --> 00:34:12.159 a huge record. Yes. The miseducation. Yep. It 00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:14.380 was, uh, unfortunately the Lauren Hill unplug 00:34:14.380 --> 00:34:16.139 was an absolute disaster. I don't know if you've 00:34:16.139 --> 00:34:18.539 ever listened to that. that release, it was really 00:34:18.539 --> 00:34:20.480 bad. But yeah, I would have liked for her to 00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:22.619 do more. I thought she was phenomenally talented. 00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:25.500 That record was a really good record. I think 00:34:25.500 --> 00:34:29.599 we all should have gotten more out of her. Which 00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:33.900 is rare for guys our age, but you're still on 00:34:33.900 --> 00:34:37.239 the cusp of new music. Do you have a band or 00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:39.119 a solo artist or somebody that you would like 00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:43.300 to plug? I do listen to a ton of new music. I 00:34:43.300 --> 00:34:45.750 talk to people all day long. for a living and 00:34:45.750 --> 00:34:48.050 so I'm fortunate that I hear people talk about 00:34:48.050 --> 00:34:51.210 bands and talk about things but one of the bands 00:34:51.210 --> 00:34:53.010 I really enjoyed lately which is kind of like 00:34:53.010 --> 00:34:56.230 modern experimental rock or metal is a band called 00:34:56.230 --> 00:34:59.010 Pure Reason Revolution they've got a couple records 00:34:59.010 --> 00:35:01.510 that are really great and good to listen to and 00:35:01.510 --> 00:35:04.150 then I mean some of the other bands that I really 00:35:04.150 --> 00:35:07.599 like I would say are not unknown, but I really 00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:09.679 like idols. They released a new record this week. 00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:12.780 Another band from a few years ago that's been 00:35:12.780 --> 00:35:14.639 out of the limelight for a while, MGMT, they 00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:16.659 have a new record out. Both of those are really 00:35:16.659 --> 00:35:20.420 good records to listen to, but in terms of the 00:35:20.420 --> 00:35:22.460 other stuff, I would say probably Pure Reason 00:35:22.460 --> 00:35:26.380 Revolution. Also, a guy named Charlie Griffiths, 00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:28.820 I think his at the album is Tik La Lika, is a 00:35:28.820 --> 00:35:31.059 fantastic progressive metal record. If you haven't 00:35:31.059 --> 00:35:32.920 listened to that, if you're a fan of progressive 00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:35.820 metal, that's a must listen to. Okay, and finally 00:35:35.820 --> 00:35:38.599 and this is a real oddball one, but I think it 00:35:38.599 --> 00:35:40.639 was you guys discussed this I'm one of the old 00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:44.260 episodes of give me ten JT you remember going 00:35:44.260 --> 00:35:49.739 back to 1989 and that talk 1990 or so Hot and 00:35:49.739 --> 00:35:53.559 now the fast food the ill -fated fast food chain 00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:58.039 hot now I did some quick research before our 00:35:58.039 --> 00:36:02.769 call today. There is one Franchise, I guess it's 00:36:02.769 --> 00:36:05.309 not a franchise. There's one hot now in existence 00:36:05.309 --> 00:36:08.090 in Michigan. What are your thoughts when you 00:36:08.090 --> 00:36:11.190 think back on those 39 cent hamburgers, 49 cents 00:36:11.190 --> 00:36:14.050 cheeseburgers? One thing I want to say here is 00:36:14.050 --> 00:36:16.650 that I look at it this way. They didn't lie to 00:36:16.650 --> 00:36:18.269 you. They didn't say, they said it was going 00:36:18.269 --> 00:36:20.730 to be hot. They said it was going to be ready 00:36:20.730 --> 00:36:23.190 right away. They did not promise anything about 00:36:23.190 --> 00:36:28.630 taste. So they didn't lie to you. My first question 00:36:28.630 --> 00:36:30.829 is when are we making our pilgrimage to Houghton 00:36:30.829 --> 00:36:33.210 now? Like when are we gonna get in the car and 00:36:33.210 --> 00:36:37.210 go? Because I'm in, I'm such a Houghton now devotee. 00:36:37.329 --> 00:36:39.889 I feel like that in the time period when Houghton 00:36:39.889 --> 00:36:42.989 now was on the scene, it was also like when. 00:36:43.190 --> 00:36:45.510 Taco Bell was just dirt. Like if you walked into 00:36:45.510 --> 00:36:48.050 Taco Bell with $20, you came out with stock options. 00:36:48.389 --> 00:36:51.090 Like it was just, it was that time period in 00:36:51.090 --> 00:36:53.070 our lives where you could just like, we were 00:36:53.070 --> 00:36:55.590 young and poor and we needed, you know, we needed 00:36:55.590 --> 00:36:57.510 cheap tacos and cheap hamburgers and literally 00:36:57.510 --> 00:37:00.250 like you couldn't get the order out of your mouth. 00:37:00.929 --> 00:37:02.630 fast and it's like you it's almost like you can 00:37:02.630 --> 00:37:04.750 skip the speaker and go right to the window they're 00:37:04.750 --> 00:37:06.670 just gonna hand you a bag of food and you give 00:37:06.670 --> 00:37:08.710 them five dollars and get a lot of change back 00:37:08.710 --> 00:37:10.329 and you like you said you just like well this 00:37:10.329 --> 00:37:12.590 i guess this is a hamburger and my favorite thing 00:37:12.590 --> 00:37:15.530 about hot my my favorite thing about hot now 00:37:15.530 --> 00:37:17.860 is like it was the the opposite of Burger King 00:37:17.860 --> 00:37:19.320 like you couldn't have it your way if you're 00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:20.780 like I don't want pickles they're like no hot 00:37:20.780 --> 00:37:23.219 now just like pull around like you know I don't 00:37:23.219 --> 00:37:24.940 want yeah I don't want ketchup like no it's tough 00:37:24.940 --> 00:37:26.820 if you get a burger and it's like you said it's 00:37:26.820 --> 00:37:29.039 39 cents like either come get it or don't like 00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:31.099 I don't care like you're either hungry or you're 00:37:31.099 --> 00:37:34.099 not do you have two dollars take this or don't 00:37:34.099 --> 00:37:38.219 I don't we don't care it's hot now or leave but 00:37:38.219 --> 00:37:40.699 yeah I'm a huge I'm a huge fan I think that there 00:37:40.699 --> 00:37:42.940 has to be there has to be a balance it's like 00:37:42.989 --> 00:37:45.530 I think if um if you look at Burger King and 00:37:45.530 --> 00:37:48.630 having your way there has to be has to be a hot 00:37:48.630 --> 00:37:50.010 and now there has to be something to balance 00:37:50.010 --> 00:37:52.750 the equation and I almost feel like other than 00:37:52.750 --> 00:37:54.409 not getting what you want or being able to make 00:37:54.409 --> 00:37:57.230 substitutions it's kind of like that hot and 00:37:57.230 --> 00:37:59.630 now was kind of that that that it was the taco 00:37:59.630 --> 00:38:02.070 bell or hamburger of taco bell that kind of kind 00:38:02.070 --> 00:38:04.429 of the same thing if there was a a hamburger 00:38:04.429 --> 00:38:06.550 equivalent of fast food mexican it was just like 00:38:06.550 --> 00:38:08.349 it's just cheap and easy and quick and you get 00:38:08.349 --> 00:38:10.289 it now it's like you can feed your whole family 00:38:10.289 --> 00:38:13.070 for eight dollars you know it's just it's it 00:38:13.070 --> 00:38:15.989 was magic i'm such a fan i wish i i wish there 00:38:15.989 --> 00:38:18.409 was one closer i'd be there like i literally 00:38:18.409 --> 00:38:20.630 just like you're pulling pocket change out of 00:38:20.630 --> 00:38:25.449 the sofa and you're gonna eat like a king it's 00:38:25.449 --> 00:38:29.110 perfection i mean it really and truly is hot 00:38:29.110 --> 00:38:32.750 and now anybody can deliver on those two promises 00:38:32.750 --> 00:38:36.760 i mean exactly and Yeah, maybe the one thing 00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:38.280 that people could argue about they pull up and 00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:39.920 they say well, this is kind of warm Well, we'll 00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:45.780 heat it up for you. It's hot Yeah, you notice 00:38:45.780 --> 00:38:48.260 they didn't call the chain hot now and delicious 00:38:48.260 --> 00:38:51.320 they're like, oh no truth in advertising We're 00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:55.739 not gonna say that, you know If they wanted to 00:38:55.739 --> 00:38:57.659 expand on the name, they really could have said 00:38:57.659 --> 00:39:00.079 hot now and barely edible But they didn't I think 00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:02.119 they've made a good marketing decision there. 00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:07.239 It was very well But yeah, so Pepsi acquires 00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:10.900 hot now places it under Taco Bell's operations 00:39:10.900 --> 00:39:14.500 and it all goes downhill from there So they of 00:39:14.500 --> 00:39:17.300 course we got to ruin a good thing But I don't 00:39:17.300 --> 00:39:19.260 know why I wanted to land on that one, but that 00:39:19.260 --> 00:39:22.400 was a great finish JT So much more I want to 00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:25.980 get into with you But as we know there's no way 00:39:25.980 --> 00:39:28.159 that you're not coming back for a second episode 00:39:28.159 --> 00:39:32.769 if you're so willing Oh, of course. Like Dan, 00:39:32.889 --> 00:39:34.610 this has been an absolute pleasure. It's really 00:39:34.610 --> 00:39:37.949 good to talk. I had so much fun and it was just 00:39:37.949 --> 00:39:40.409 really enjoyable. And again, congrats on 29 episodes. 00:39:40.690 --> 00:39:43.829 I would be happy to come back anytime if you 00:39:43.829 --> 00:39:49.269 would have me. How about next week? No. Let's 00:39:49.269 --> 00:39:52.809 do back to back. Right. Yeah. We're, we're, we're 00:39:52.809 --> 00:39:56.570 marathoning it. Can't stop us now. Now I'll come 00:39:56.570 --> 00:39:59.170 back anytime. I really, I appreciate the opportunity. 00:39:59.309 --> 00:40:01.460 It's been a real blast and I. I thank you for 00:40:01.460 --> 00:40:03.940 asking me on and for, um, you know, for letting 00:40:03.940 --> 00:40:05.780 me talk about the things I'm passionate about 00:40:05.780 --> 00:40:09.039 and my work and, um, and what I do and my story. 00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:11.840 It's, um, I, I just, I thank you. It's, it's 00:40:11.840 --> 00:40:13.500 a great opportunity. I appreciate you giving 00:40:13.500 --> 00:40:16.579 me a platform to share. Well, thank you, JT. 00:40:16.579 --> 00:40:19.400 You are making a big difference out there for, 00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:22.760 for men of all ages, boys of all ages. And you 00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:25.039 know, those little kids, they love the guy time 00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:27.500 stuff. It's just a little quick. 30 minutes out 00:40:27.500 --> 00:40:28.940 of their day, they've been at school, they've 00:40:28.940 --> 00:40:30.920 been having to just do all this shuttling around, 00:40:31.340 --> 00:40:33.639 and you just know when they enjoy stuff like 00:40:33.639 --> 00:40:36.199 that, just being around some of the guys, and 00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:39.500 you make it fun for them. And folks, check out 00:40:39.500 --> 00:40:42.699 JT on Instagram, go to the website, and remember, 00:40:42.760 --> 00:40:44.380 if you get something out of this episode, and 00:40:44.380 --> 00:40:48.300 you're 36 years old, and you're still doing something 00:40:48.300 --> 00:40:50.679 that's not really the fire in the belly for you, 00:40:50.980 --> 00:40:54.889 you're not too old, even if you're 47. No, keep 00:40:54.889 --> 00:40:57.090 thinking about it. Keep, uh, maybe put a little 00:40:57.090 --> 00:41:00.110 plan together and, uh, get your partner on board 00:41:00.110 --> 00:41:03.630 and it can be done. So they never, yeah, never 00:41:03.630 --> 00:41:06.630 the never give up on your dreams. Never. That's 00:41:06.630 --> 00:41:09.250 right. Well, you guys have a great week and next 00:41:09.250 --> 00:41:12.289 week. We're back with another Dan, the first 00:41:12.289 --> 00:41:15.909 one, I think, since maybe Dan wine rib, Dan Brody, 00:41:16.210 --> 00:41:18.969 but, um, you guys enjoy your week and be good 00:41:18.969 --> 00:41:21.510 to each other and we'll see you next Sunday on 00:41:21.510 --> 00:41:24.730 the Dan time podcast. Thank you, JT. Great to 00:41:24.730 --> 00:41:27.710 talk to you again. It's been 20. Is it? I don't 00:41:27.710 --> 00:41:30.570 know. Almost 20 years. Feels like yesterday. 00:41:31.329 --> 00:41:33.909 Yeah, it does, man. Well, thank you. It's been 00:41:33.909 --> 00:41:35.550 a real pleasure. The pleasure is all mine. Thank 00:41:35.550 --> 00:41:43.510 you. All right, buddy. Find and like Village 00:41:43.510 --> 00:41:46.610 Inn Barbershop on Facebook. They've been serving 00:41:46.610 --> 00:41:51.230 the Birmingham area since 1967. They do men's 00:41:51.230 --> 00:41:55.179 cuts, beard trims. Women's and kids cuts and 00:41:55.179 --> 00:41:59.500 visit JT the barber calm or connect with them 00:41:59.500 --> 00:42:02.880 on The social media channels want to give a quick 00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:07.219 shout to my dad who I believe listens Occasionally 00:42:07.219 --> 00:42:10.300 he kind of cherry picks the episodes that maybe 00:42:10.300 --> 00:42:13.760 are more appealing to him versus others Maybe 00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:16.079 he listens to all of them. I don't know but my 00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:20.070 dad has been a customer of JT's and Dad, I just 00:42:20.070 --> 00:42:22.389 want to say thanks for listening to the Day and 00:42:22.389 --> 00:42:25.349 Time podcast. I appreciate you, my friend, my 00:42:25.349 --> 00:42:26.510 father, as a listener.