WEBVTT 00:00:04.299 --> 00:00:07.980 All right, welcome to the latest episode, the 00:00:07.980 --> 00:00:13.919 first one of 2024, Happy New Year. This is the 00:00:13.919 --> 00:00:17.839 Dan Time Podcast. I'm your host, Dan McCardle. 00:00:18.079 --> 00:00:21.820 Thanks so much for being here, for subscribing, 00:00:22.739 --> 00:00:28.379 for absorbing, for immersing yourself in this 00:00:28.379 --> 00:00:32.240 show. Every week, I try to make it a fun and 00:00:32.240 --> 00:00:35.649 fulfilling experience. for you, the listener. 00:00:36.850 --> 00:00:40.049 Bringing you a variety of guests with very unique 00:00:40.049 --> 00:00:43.109 stories, I hope you've enjoyed the last few episodes 00:00:43.109 --> 00:00:47.509 featuring Dan Kabelka coming back for our holiday 00:00:47.509 --> 00:00:50.969 special, Emily Haynes -Cook, my dear friend, 00:00:51.729 --> 00:00:56.149 blues great Danielle Moralia, music theater performers 00:00:56.149 --> 00:01:00.030 Danny Pike and Danny Rubio, and so many others. 00:01:00.329 --> 00:01:03.570 Go back and check the past episodes for the full 00:01:03.570 --> 00:01:07.950 list. My guest today is veteran singer -songwriter 00:01:07.950 --> 00:01:11.769 and Melbourne, Australia's very own Dan Brody. 00:01:12.390 --> 00:01:16.129 A two -time Ari Award nominee, Dan has released 00:01:16.129 --> 00:01:20.010 eight studio albums plus a few EPs over a recording 00:01:20.010 --> 00:01:24.090 career that spans a quarter century. He has led 00:01:24.090 --> 00:01:27.609 Dan Brody and the Broken Arrows Band, Dan Brody 00:01:27.609 --> 00:01:31.390 and the Grieving Widows, and Dan Brody and the 00:01:31.390 --> 00:01:34.969 Shadows of Love. His latest record, the Ballad 00:01:34.969 --> 00:01:39.250 of Cowboy Dan, ought to be on any best of 2023 00:01:39.250 --> 00:01:42.450 albums lists. When you listen to the opening 00:01:42.450 --> 00:01:45.829 four tracks of the album, in order, if your experience 00:01:45.829 --> 00:01:50.549 is like mine, with their varying themes, tempos, 00:01:50.750 --> 00:01:54.250 orchestration, and culminating in the infectious, 00:01:55.109 --> 00:01:57.349 losing love is dangerous, you're gonna say to 00:01:57.349 --> 00:02:00.469 yourself, that's it. That's it. That's the height 00:02:00.469 --> 00:02:04.170 of this record. There's no way it can pick back 00:02:04.170 --> 00:02:07.430 up after that. And then you realize the ride 00:02:07.430 --> 00:02:11.629 has only just begun. Dan and I dive deep into 00:02:11.629 --> 00:02:14.389 this album. You're going to love the conversation. 00:02:15.009 --> 00:02:18.229 Here is what some critics had to say about Dan 00:02:18.229 --> 00:02:23.169 Brody and about the ballad of Cowboy Dan. Martin 00:02:23.169 --> 00:02:26.330 Bolton from the age wrote, if Dan Brody were 00:02:26.330 --> 00:02:29.050 an actor, He wouldn't be the star of the show, 00:02:29.430 --> 00:02:31.909 he'd be the guy the other actors on set wanted 00:02:31.909 --> 00:02:34.810 to hang out with, the guy the director would 00:02:34.810 --> 00:02:37.550 turn to when he needed a moment of inspiration 00:02:37.550 --> 00:02:41.330 to get the show on the road. This album shows 00:02:41.330 --> 00:02:44.689 why Brody was twice nominated for Ari Awards. 00:02:45.590 --> 00:02:48.509 And Chris Familton from Post2Wire .com wrote, 00:02:49.050 --> 00:02:52.340 On the new album, Brody successfully finds common 00:02:52.340 --> 00:02:55.120 ground for his many influences, opening with 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:58.159 the magnificent and brooding, I Can Feel Love 00:02:58.159 --> 00:03:01.439 closing in. He delivers the lines in a way that 00:03:01.439 --> 00:03:04.520 barely hangs together, which only adds to the 00:03:04.520 --> 00:03:07.740 melancholic romance and compelling storytelling. 00:03:08.860 --> 00:03:12.180 Dan is very well regarded, and he's a huge supporter 00:03:12.180 --> 00:03:14.680 of his local music scene. And he just loves getting 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:18.240 up on stage playing with his other musician friends. 00:03:18.639 --> 00:03:22.400 Be sure to visit his website at danbrody .com 00:03:22.400 --> 00:03:26.280 .au. You can purchase the CD version, the LP 00:03:26.280 --> 00:03:30.620 version, get all the updates on Dan in the coming 00:03:30.620 --> 00:03:34.379 year. All right. Let's get to the conversation. 00:03:34.740 --> 00:03:40.280 It is Dan Brody time. There is just quite a story 00:03:40.280 --> 00:03:43.080 to tell here, Dan, and I'm so thrilled to have 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:47.870 you. Um, we are going to be discussing. Your 00:03:47.870 --> 00:03:50.250 catalog, but also promoting your most recent 00:03:50.250 --> 00:03:53.909 record Which I the New York Times and maybe some 00:03:53.909 --> 00:03:56.229 other mainstream publications put out like a 00:03:56.229 --> 00:04:00.409 best of the year and I'm not buttering you up 00:04:00.409 --> 00:04:02.370 I really think this should fall on that type 00:04:02.370 --> 00:04:04.530 of list of the albums that you need to listen 00:04:04.530 --> 00:04:08.770 to the ballad of cowboy Dan is is the latest 00:04:08.770 --> 00:04:12.889 record released September 1st of 23 Dan this 00:04:12.889 --> 00:04:16.610 is like you say in the title track for where 00:04:16.610 --> 00:04:19.529 you've come and where your story began. I'd say 00:04:19.529 --> 00:04:22.509 it's a modern masterpiece. Thank you. Great to 00:04:22.509 --> 00:04:24.470 have you. How are you doing today, my friend? 00:04:25.490 --> 00:04:28.930 I'm really good, thanks. It's summer over here, 00:04:29.290 --> 00:04:31.230 but you wouldn't know it because it's raining 00:04:31.230 --> 00:04:34.350 every day, but the weather's warm, so that's 00:04:34.350 --> 00:04:38.449 one thing. And everyone's on holidays and in 00:04:38.449 --> 00:04:40.949 the great Australian tradition, drinking themselves 00:04:40.949 --> 00:04:47.800 and eating themselves into oblivion. Yeah, except 00:04:47.800 --> 00:04:53.459 for me. I'm not. Yeah, I've pumped the brakes 00:04:53.459 --> 00:04:56.620 on some of that. Just heavy indulgence on all 00:04:56.620 --> 00:04:58.560 ends. And sometimes people think indulgence is 00:04:58.560 --> 00:05:00.720 just the really bad stuff. Sometimes it's just 00:05:00.720 --> 00:05:04.660 pigging out and just eating and eating and eating. 00:05:05.399 --> 00:05:09.220 And yeah, you get a little older. If you want 00:05:09.220 --> 00:05:12.040 to feel good most days, you pull back a little 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:17.430 bit. Yeah, that's true. I stopped drinking a 00:05:17.430 --> 00:05:19.410 couple of years ago as well, which has been a 00:05:19.410 --> 00:05:22.689 really great thing, really positive thing in 00:05:22.689 --> 00:05:26.689 my life. So it's good to focus on what you, you 00:05:26.689 --> 00:05:29.769 know, what you enjoy and make the most of your 00:05:29.769 --> 00:05:33.230 time. I'm really excited to hear that. I wasn't 00:05:33.230 --> 00:05:36.610 sure and I wasn't prepared to ask you if you're 00:05:36.610 --> 00:05:40.269 still drinking because, you know, on each record, 00:05:40.290 --> 00:05:44.439 there's usually a song and it may have some dark 00:05:44.439 --> 00:05:47.899 humor about drinking. But I'm glad I understand 00:05:47.899 --> 00:05:51.480 about 10 years ago, you really had a serious 00:05:51.480 --> 00:05:54.139 health scare that that probably put a lot of 00:05:54.139 --> 00:05:58.060 things perspective for you. Yeah. Yeah, I did. 00:05:58.180 --> 00:06:01.019 I had I got diagnosed with Hodgkin's lymphoma, 00:06:01.459 --> 00:06:05.540 which is cancer of the lymphatic system. And 00:06:05.540 --> 00:06:09.959 I was touring in Europe and I'd go to sing a 00:06:09.959 --> 00:06:12.899 song and these this big outdoor festivals and 00:06:12.899 --> 00:06:15.860 I'd go to sing and I'd just start coughing and 00:06:15.860 --> 00:06:19.019 uh and also after the show I would just um say 00:06:19.019 --> 00:06:21.100 to the band that I wanted to go back to the hotel 00:06:21.100 --> 00:06:23.959 and you know go to bed which isn't like me at 00:06:23.959 --> 00:06:25.939 all I mean you know I was always the last man 00:06:25.939 --> 00:06:30.240 standing at a party and um so I got back to Australia 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:34.079 and uh yeah that set off a whole you know anyone 00:06:34.079 --> 00:06:37.439 who's been seriously ill things move very very 00:06:37.439 --> 00:06:41.360 rapidly and um yeah I had chemotherapy and radiation 00:06:41.360 --> 00:06:44.819 for a year, some treatment and thankfully came 00:06:44.819 --> 00:06:47.600 out the other side of it, hopefully a little 00:06:47.600 --> 00:06:51.160 bit wiser. Was the album Deep Deep Love, was 00:06:51.160 --> 00:06:55.019 it complete before you started feeling ill or 00:06:55.019 --> 00:06:57.259 were you in the middle of writing those songs? 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:00.319 No, it was finished. It was all finished and 00:07:00.319 --> 00:07:04.339 I was about to organize an album launch in Melbourne 00:07:04.339 --> 00:07:11.199 and I just delayed it for a year and So yeah, 00:07:11.740 --> 00:07:14.220 well, we'll we'll um talk about the back catalog 00:07:14.220 --> 00:07:16.620 a little bit here in a minute But let's flash 00:07:16.620 --> 00:07:20.220 forward to the ballad of cowboy Dan. I just want 00:07:20.220 --> 00:07:23.079 to say Without just saying oh, it's a great record. 00:07:23.680 --> 00:07:25.459 Oh, it's a masterpiece. I want to tell you what 00:07:25.459 --> 00:07:31.339 I really why I think it is so well done it starts 00:07:31.339 --> 00:07:35.920 off with a spoken word track as far as the vocal 00:07:35.920 --> 00:07:39.629 line and melody and That's the very first Dan 00:07:39.629 --> 00:07:43.149 Brody song that I heard. And when I played it, 00:07:43.250 --> 00:07:47.290 I thought, OK, this is interesting. And I was 00:07:47.290 --> 00:07:49.430 I was feeling it and I was thinking, well, if 00:07:49.430 --> 00:07:52.110 the entire record is just like this track, I 00:07:52.110 --> 00:07:55.589 don't know if it's for me. And then, yeah. And 00:07:55.589 --> 00:07:59.829 then you get in to track number two, which is 00:07:59.829 --> 00:08:02.730 old Betty. And it's just an entirely different 00:08:02.730 --> 00:08:06.000 tempo, entirely different feel. I really wanted 00:08:06.000 --> 00:08:08.519 to ask you this because by the time you get to 00:08:08.519 --> 00:08:12.079 that And it's on this podcast. I can't say the 00:08:12.079 --> 00:08:15.040 words you can just because it's clean format, 00:08:15.040 --> 00:08:19.779 but I track three It really sets the tone for 00:08:19.779 --> 00:08:23.399 what hits you on number four losing love is dangerous 00:08:23.399 --> 00:08:26.180 By the time I had completed those first four 00:08:26.180 --> 00:08:29.939 tracks Yeah, you just had me I could have laid 00:08:29.939 --> 00:08:33.659 on the floor and Spread my arms wide said I'm 00:08:33.659 --> 00:08:38.129 in When you have you guys had a chance just speaking 00:08:38.129 --> 00:08:40.649 of that track losing love is dangerous to perform 00:08:40.649 --> 00:08:43.009 that live and if so You got to be bringing the 00:08:43.009 --> 00:08:46.590 house down with that that song Yeah, we we played 00:08:46.590 --> 00:08:49.070 it on Saturday night and we opened with it. And 00:08:49.070 --> 00:08:53.049 yeah, it really actually did it's the first second 00:08:53.049 --> 00:08:57.029 time we played it live and You know, it's a pretty 00:08:57.029 --> 00:09:01.850 traditional 12 bar belter But it certainly hit 00:09:01.850 --> 00:09:03.889 in all the right spots. The audience was really 00:09:03.889 --> 00:09:06.789 there with us for the song. So Nice way to open 00:09:06.789 --> 00:09:09.789 a set, I think. It's a nice sort of statement 00:09:09.789 --> 00:09:13.429 of intention in terms of, you know, it's quite 00:09:13.429 --> 00:09:17.610 a forceful sounding song. Right. And you and 00:09:17.610 --> 00:09:20.509 your brother Chris collaborated on that song 00:09:20.509 --> 00:09:22.610 and maybe a couple others or one other on the 00:09:22.610 --> 00:09:25.590 album. I think the instrumental track. That's 00:09:25.590 --> 00:09:28.549 right. But, you know, it's funny what I say about 00:09:28.549 --> 00:09:31.029 the opener. Now, when I go back and listen to 00:09:31.029 --> 00:09:34.779 it, that might be my favorite song. I can feel 00:09:34.779 --> 00:09:39.220 love closing in, but it had to be arranged in 00:09:39.220 --> 00:09:41.620 that order. How much time in the studio do you 00:09:41.620 --> 00:09:45.159 spend when all the songs are written and figuring 00:09:45.159 --> 00:09:46.740 out the track listing? Is that something you 00:09:46.740 --> 00:09:50.360 go over with? I got some friends to do the listing 00:09:50.360 --> 00:09:55.840 for me and so it's interesting your observations 00:09:55.840 --> 00:09:58.799 of the album because normally you would probably 00:09:58.799 --> 00:10:01.700 start with the faster songs and then you'd, you 00:10:01.700 --> 00:10:05.019 know, usually like you know track four or something 00:10:05.019 --> 00:10:08.480 you put a slow song in most musicians I think 00:10:08.480 --> 00:10:11.580 would treat it like a live show but I got I found 00:10:11.580 --> 00:10:14.720 the job too difficult and I got some friends 00:10:14.720 --> 00:10:18.559 to do it for me and I loved what they they said 00:10:18.559 --> 00:10:20.799 oh you should start the album with a slow with 00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:22.679 the sort of spoken word piece and finish with 00:10:22.679 --> 00:10:25.580 the spoken word piece to create more of a narrative 00:10:25.580 --> 00:10:29.399 and so that's what I went with it's it's a quite 00:10:29.399 --> 00:10:32.159 a hard job to do you know when you've been living 00:10:32.159 --> 00:10:34.100 with the songs for a couple of years and recording 00:10:34.100 --> 00:10:37.539 them so that's what we ended up doing. That opening 00:10:37.539 --> 00:10:39.899 track though because sometimes do you ever hear 00:10:39.899 --> 00:10:43.019 people say I had to give it a few listens when 00:10:43.019 --> 00:10:44.980 they speak about an album and then it becomes 00:10:44.980 --> 00:10:48.360 their favorite album of maybe of the year? Yeah. 00:10:48.539 --> 00:10:51.080 Certain bands like a favorite band puts out a 00:10:51.080 --> 00:10:54.100 new record and you're thinking you definitely 00:10:54.100 --> 00:10:56.399 don't hate it but you don't understand it all 00:10:56.399 --> 00:10:59.509 yet and that was such a beautiful thing. The 00:10:59.509 --> 00:11:02.009 first thing that I did appreciate with, because 00:11:02.009 --> 00:11:05.509 I play drums, I wouldn't say I play them that 00:11:05.509 --> 00:11:07.409 well, but I play them well enough, but I'm more 00:11:07.409 --> 00:11:09.649 of a lyric guy. The lyrics really jump out at 00:11:09.649 --> 00:11:13.789 me. And that's what piqued my interest was the 00:11:13.789 --> 00:11:16.929 story that's being told. I saw her again last 00:11:16.929 --> 00:11:19.190 night. She was playing pool, eating some potato 00:11:19.190 --> 00:11:22.669 chips. And then you describe the female, you 00:11:22.669 --> 00:11:25.210 know, long dark hair, brown eyes. And then as 00:11:25.210 --> 00:11:28.190 the song goes on, She takes on different forms, 00:11:28.970 --> 00:11:32.570 different personas. I have to ask you, Dan, sometimes 00:11:32.570 --> 00:11:34.549 artists don't want to reveal the meaning, but 00:11:34.549 --> 00:11:37.509 man, that sounds like just the red blooded male 00:11:37.509 --> 00:11:42.110 saying, I love women. I fall in love. I can't 00:11:42.110 --> 00:11:45.750 help myself. Yeah, it is that, but it's it's 00:11:45.750 --> 00:11:48.450 a little bit more than that as well. Let's say 00:11:48.450 --> 00:11:52.330 the character is also doesn't know what he what 00:11:52.330 --> 00:11:58.049 he wants. Oh, yeah. that as well. So on another 00:11:58.049 --> 00:12:00.970 smaller level, it's trying to show that the character 00:12:00.970 --> 00:12:04.110 is extremely confused. Yeah, I could definitely 00:12:04.110 --> 00:12:06.049 see that. That's not as there's that as well. 00:12:06.049 --> 00:12:09.470 But yeah, the first thing is is pretty spot on. 00:12:10.250 --> 00:12:13.210 Yeah. Again, in track number three is the way 00:12:13.210 --> 00:12:15.529 I have to describe it. But folks, if you're listening 00:12:15.529 --> 00:12:17.350 to this podcast and you're and you're sitting 00:12:17.350 --> 00:12:19.950 down and you're able to maybe pull up the track 00:12:19.950 --> 00:12:21.629 listing, you could follow along with what we're 00:12:21.629 --> 00:12:24.350 talking about here. Dan, is this a reflection 00:12:24.350 --> 00:12:28.350 of all the things you've heard from all the passers 00:12:28.350 --> 00:12:31.210 -by over the years that tell you, oh, you're 00:12:31.210 --> 00:12:34.070 just so wonderful. And then they've been there 00:12:34.070 --> 00:12:36.389 for the highs, but they're gone during the lows. 00:12:36.389 --> 00:12:39.590 And then they're back for the highs. Are you 00:12:39.590 --> 00:12:42.750 reflecting some of that back at those types? 00:12:43.629 --> 00:12:45.649 Because I love that song. And again, it goes 00:12:45.649 --> 00:12:48.149 back to your subtle humor. And you just have 00:12:48.149 --> 00:12:51.750 a real deaf touch. Is that the swear word? Yeah. 00:12:52.110 --> 00:12:55.639 Yeah. I'm the... So that song... people generally 00:12:55.639 --> 00:12:57.500 aren't as nasty towards us as we are towards 00:12:57.500 --> 00:13:01.120 ourselves and That's probably more that's my 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:03.600 own. That song is really just a litany of self 00:13:03.600 --> 00:13:06.799 -criticism Yeah, that's something that probably 00:13:06.799 --> 00:13:11.600 be an Australian would say as opposed to someone 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:14.740 in America Going back to your brother Chris. 00:13:14.740 --> 00:13:16.539 I was thinking about this today. I wanted to 00:13:16.539 --> 00:13:20.259 make sure that I asked He's basically been there 00:13:20.259 --> 00:13:24.059 every step of the way and various formats on 00:13:24.080 --> 00:13:26.799 most of the records, going back to your very 00:13:26.799 --> 00:13:31.100 first show in 1990, you guys performed as teenagers. 00:13:32.080 --> 00:13:35.379 Do you ever think about, and let me just say, 00:13:35.539 --> 00:13:38.399 on this record, Chris contributes lap steel, 00:13:39.080 --> 00:13:42.580 banjo, and guitar on various tracks, and has 00:13:42.580 --> 00:13:44.399 writing credits on those two songs, Lost Inside 00:13:44.399 --> 00:13:48.679 a Dream and Losing Love is Dangerous, but do 00:13:48.679 --> 00:13:51.320 you ever think about what your career would have 00:13:51.320 --> 00:13:53.850 been like? maybe at some of those low points 00:13:53.850 --> 00:13:57.610 without your brother there by your side because 00:13:57.610 --> 00:14:00.549 I have to imagine he's stuck with you when you're 00:14:00.549 --> 00:14:02.730 high rolling and when you're just down on the 00:14:02.730 --> 00:14:07.429 ground. Yeah, yeah he has. Yeah he's been extremely 00:14:07.429 --> 00:14:12.850 important and yeah some records he's maybe just 00:14:12.850 --> 00:14:16.769 contributed one guitar solo to one song but I 00:14:16.769 --> 00:14:20.490 have an extremely close relationship with my 00:14:20.490 --> 00:14:24.210 two siblings, my brother and my sister. And they've 00:14:24.210 --> 00:14:27.149 been a huge source of strength for me. We lost 00:14:27.149 --> 00:14:30.470 our mother when we were quite young and our father, 00:14:31.009 --> 00:14:34.850 relatively. And so, yeah, we're a very, very 00:14:34.850 --> 00:14:39.090 close family and I'd be really in deep trouble 00:14:39.090 --> 00:14:42.769 without them in my life. So they're both extremely 00:14:42.769 --> 00:14:45.049 important. And my brother's, yeah, very much 00:14:45.049 --> 00:14:49.580 a source of support for me. It's been great. 00:14:50.259 --> 00:14:53.120 Yeah. And Chris plays bass in the band Dallas 00:14:53.120 --> 00:14:58.940 Crane. Yeah. So yeah, Chris does that. Dan, also, 00:14:59.120 --> 00:15:01.340 so you used the same producer on this record 00:15:01.340 --> 00:15:05.039 from the last album, Funeraria Duval, maybe way 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:09.159 off there. Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty close, I 00:15:09.159 --> 00:15:12.299 think. I don't really know. Mike Hubbard. Yeah. 00:15:12.899 --> 00:15:17.019 Mike Hubbard, Michael Hubbard is great. we had 00:15:17.019 --> 00:15:21.059 a mutual friend, this kind of legendary guitarist 00:15:21.059 --> 00:15:23.779 here in Australia that passed away called Spencer 00:15:23.779 --> 00:15:27.860 P. Jones and he played in a band called the Beasts 00:15:27.860 --> 00:15:31.860 of Bourbon who they had a lot of success in Europe 00:15:31.860 --> 00:15:35.480 more so than the US and he came he came from 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:38.980 this kind of punk aesthetic and his band was 00:15:38.980 --> 00:15:42.080 the Johnny's and I guess he started this kind 00:15:42.080 --> 00:15:44.580 I mean he was kind of in that genre of cow punk 00:15:45.260 --> 00:15:49.259 which I know some US bands did as well. Anyway, 00:15:50.000 --> 00:15:52.700 Mick played guitar with him in his last iteration, 00:15:53.220 --> 00:15:56.279 Spencer P. Jones and the Escape Committee and 00:15:56.279 --> 00:15:58.960 I used to go and see Spencer play and I met Mick 00:15:58.960 --> 00:16:03.779 and Spencer ended up passing away and Mick started 00:16:03.779 --> 00:16:08.120 producing and he's been great, he's been fantastic, 00:16:08.379 --> 00:16:12.559 he's a really creative guy and some good ideas 00:16:12.559 --> 00:16:17.009 and yeah. Easy to work with so we've made two 00:16:17.009 --> 00:16:20.490 albums together. Yeah, I Love that record as 00:16:20.490 --> 00:16:22.889 well. You can tell that the production quality 00:16:22.889 --> 00:16:25.690 on the latest record the Ballad of Cowboy Dan 00:16:25.690 --> 00:16:28.350 and Funeraria You can tell they had the same 00:16:28.350 --> 00:16:31.929 hands in there. Maybe Yeah, he's kind of got 00:16:31.929 --> 00:16:34.710 pop sensibilities. You can hear that You can 00:16:34.710 --> 00:16:36.590 hear that with some of the guitar stuff that 00:16:36.590 --> 00:16:39.309 he does. He's good at finding a hook of the song 00:16:39.309 --> 00:16:43.919 the the guitar work especially on on the outer. 00:16:45.100 --> 00:16:47.299 And folks listening, there's a video that you 00:16:47.299 --> 00:16:49.940 can watch for this song. Some excellent guitar 00:16:49.940 --> 00:16:51.980 work, kind of at the middle point and towards 00:16:51.980 --> 00:16:55.580 the end of the song there. Is that all you? That 00:16:55.580 --> 00:17:02.600 song is all Chris. Okay. It's pretty kind of 00:17:02.600 --> 00:17:05.200 freeform. It's got a riff throughout it and stuff. 00:17:05.900 --> 00:17:08.500 I made that film clip, I think I made it during 00:17:08.500 --> 00:17:11.480 lockdown or just as we started. We had a pretty... 00:17:11.390 --> 00:17:14.630 harsh lockdown here in Melbourne. Everyone went 00:17:14.630 --> 00:17:17.369 a bit crazy. I think we were locked down for 00:17:17.369 --> 00:17:21.769 300 days or something. Wow. It was pretty brutal. 00:17:22.470 --> 00:17:24.710 On that note, I was going to ask because I've 00:17:24.710 --> 00:17:27.730 talked to some other artists with the lockdown 00:17:27.730 --> 00:17:30.710 being so prolonged and you're used to being, 00:17:31.609 --> 00:17:34.670 you're used to moving pretty fast or you're at 00:17:34.670 --> 00:17:37.990 this venue and then that venue and this location, 00:17:38.109 --> 00:17:39.730 that location, now all of a sudden you're in 00:17:39.730 --> 00:17:44.130 one spot. when you come out of it, is it easy 00:17:44.130 --> 00:17:47.289 to get back into that frenetic pace again? Or 00:17:47.289 --> 00:17:50.710 do you kind of take this new comfort in just 00:17:50.710 --> 00:17:54.829 being still for a moment with your life? That 00:17:54.829 --> 00:17:57.569 happened for a while. I mean, people, COVID seems 00:17:57.569 --> 00:18:00.130 to be back this summer now. I've just spoke to 00:18:00.130 --> 00:18:02.809 a friend yesterday. A lot of people have it again. 00:18:03.049 --> 00:18:06.730 And I've had it twice, I think, once. I can't 00:18:06.730 --> 00:18:11.569 remember. I think COVID really taught people 00:18:11.569 --> 00:18:14.630 to have an appreciation of each other. As much 00:18:14.630 --> 00:18:17.529 as we all annoy each other at times, I feel like 00:18:17.529 --> 00:18:21.809 that was a positive take from it, that people 00:18:21.809 --> 00:18:24.869 need each other for support, particularly the 00:18:24.869 --> 00:18:27.130 music community. People seem to become a lot 00:18:27.130 --> 00:18:30.049 nicer to each other after COVID. So that's been 00:18:30.049 --> 00:18:33.930 good. Yeah, they probably took the companionships 00:18:33.930 --> 00:18:36.589 that they had, maybe not for granted. Well, maybe 00:18:36.589 --> 00:18:41.890 they did. Yeah. It's one thing to sit on your 00:18:41.890 --> 00:18:46.710 cell phone and and text people But to to do that 00:18:46.710 --> 00:18:48.549 is the only way to communicate with people because 00:18:48.549 --> 00:18:52.069 you can't leave your home Yeah, you start to 00:18:52.069 --> 00:18:55.630 long for the human connection Yeah, that's right 00:18:55.630 --> 00:18:59.849 So, um, yeah, I'm back into it. I I play piano 00:18:59.849 --> 00:19:03.210 with a bunch of bands as well So that that keeps 00:19:03.210 --> 00:19:06.480 me busy I really enjoy that side of my career. 00:19:06.759 --> 00:19:08.420 That's relatively recently. That's only been 00:19:08.420 --> 00:19:12.339 for a few years, actually. So I play probably 00:19:12.339 --> 00:19:15.460 about three nights a week, three or four nights 00:19:15.460 --> 00:19:20.559 a week. So that's good. Yeah. So I just love 00:19:20.559 --> 00:19:23.380 playing live. That's where for me, where, you 00:19:23.380 --> 00:19:26.559 know, that's like a moment of truth. From the 00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:30.660 moment I first did it when I was the first pub 00:19:30.660 --> 00:19:34.710 show I had was when I was 15 and It was the most 00:19:34.710 --> 00:19:38.390 terrifying and exhilarating feeling of my life. 00:19:40.190 --> 00:19:43.309 Like someone trying to find their hit, a junkie 00:19:43.309 --> 00:19:46.130 trying to find that great high, I feel like instead 00:19:46.130 --> 00:19:48.430 of chasing that your whole life, that feeling 00:19:48.430 --> 00:19:52.130 again, it's kind of strange. Yeah, I can see 00:19:52.130 --> 00:19:55.589 that. When you're 15 years old and you're up 00:19:55.589 --> 00:19:58.470 there, even as, like you said, as terrified as 00:19:58.470 --> 00:20:01.670 that first experience was, it's almost like a 00:20:01.670 --> 00:20:03.980 theme park ride where you want to you still want 00:20:03.980 --> 00:20:07.980 to do it all over again. Yeah it's exactly what 00:20:07.980 --> 00:20:11.059 it is. It's bizarre and some nights are terrible. 00:20:11.259 --> 00:20:15.339 I mean you know you put on a brave face and you're 00:20:15.339 --> 00:20:17.319 professional but some nights you go home you're 00:20:17.319 --> 00:20:19.200 like oh for god's sake that was just you know 00:20:19.200 --> 00:20:22.440 the sound was bad the audience was unresponsive 00:20:22.440 --> 00:20:25.759 but I don't know even the bad nights are better 00:20:25.759 --> 00:20:28.299 than a working week doing something that you 00:20:28.299 --> 00:20:31.960 don't like. I box as well and I haven't fought 00:20:32.059 --> 00:20:34.380 um competitively but I've done a lot of sparring 00:20:34.380 --> 00:20:37.740 in the ring and that to me feels the same exactly 00:20:37.740 --> 00:20:40.500 the same as playing a live show it's like the 00:20:40.500 --> 00:20:45.259 bell goes and you're on and you've got a tiny 00:20:45.259 --> 00:20:50.299 amount of time defend yourself punch move duck 00:20:50.299 --> 00:20:54.539 weave survive and express yourself and if you 00:20:54.539 --> 00:20:57.839 make one wrong move you're on the canvas so I 00:20:57.839 --> 00:21:00.460 don't know that might be a little naff that analogy 00:21:00.460 --> 00:21:04.339 but uh I've always likened it as a similar thing. 00:21:05.380 --> 00:21:09.700 I feel like you probably need to be on the clock 00:21:09.700 --> 00:21:13.359 under pressure. Yeah. And just that need to challenge 00:21:13.359 --> 00:21:18.119 yourself. Yeah. So, yeah, it's like a boxing 00:21:18.119 --> 00:21:22.420 match. I can see that. You know, and sometimes 00:21:22.420 --> 00:21:24.740 sometimes you get knocked to the ground, but 00:21:24.740 --> 00:21:27.319 that's part of it. You know, you never you never 00:21:27.319 --> 00:21:29.299 show that like in a boxing ring, you never show 00:21:29.299 --> 00:21:32.529 that you're hurt. You just keep going. Dan, in 00:21:32.529 --> 00:21:36.009 your songwriting and in your lyrics, this is 00:21:36.009 --> 00:21:39.109 really what, and not just because I was going 00:21:39.109 --> 00:21:40.589 to have you as a guest on the show, but when 00:21:40.589 --> 00:21:43.690 I was diving into the catalog, getting into the 00:21:43.690 --> 00:21:47.869 songs, it really struck me how you open yourself 00:21:47.869 --> 00:21:50.589 up. You're not just the guy on the top of the 00:21:50.589 --> 00:21:52.690 mountain, but you're not afraid to write lyrics 00:21:52.690 --> 00:21:56.730 that show how hurt you are or how much you're 00:21:56.730 --> 00:22:01.470 longing for love that has been lost. Yeah. There's 00:22:01.470 --> 00:22:05.710 I mean I Made a lot of money. I lost it twice. 00:22:05.710 --> 00:22:09.490 I never did listen to my own advice I tie myself 00:22:09.490 --> 00:22:14.009 to a cross at night And then goes on my head 00:22:14.009 --> 00:22:16.490 and my heart get mixed up. Sometimes I cry myself 00:22:16.490 --> 00:22:19.849 to sleep at night There's a lot of men that have 00:22:19.849 --> 00:22:21.809 gone to bed with tears in their eyes and very 00:22:21.809 --> 00:22:25.170 few of them talk about it Or write about it. 00:22:25.170 --> 00:22:29.410 I thought that was huge and Is that my last picture 00:22:29.410 --> 00:22:34.589 show? Yeah, I love that. That's kind of the second 00:22:34.589 --> 00:22:39.569 half of the album. That's right. Yeah. Just beautiful 00:22:39.569 --> 00:22:45.789 stuff. Oh, thank you. Well, it's good to be honest, 00:22:45.849 --> 00:22:50.950 I suppose. And yeah, I mean, it is very honest. 00:22:51.210 --> 00:22:56.329 And there's facts mixed with fiction. And I feel 00:22:56.329 --> 00:23:00.670 far more comfortable writing about that. then 00:23:00.670 --> 00:23:04.369 let's just say that for me it's much more comfortable 00:23:04.369 --> 00:23:09.150 around than let's say real life, you know? Yeah, 00:23:09.289 --> 00:23:13.970 yeah. Like I'm not, without baring my soul, you 00:23:13.970 --> 00:23:16.549 know, I'm not the easiest person to talk about 00:23:16.549 --> 00:23:20.250 any of that stuff in person and those closest 00:23:20.250 --> 00:23:23.690 to me would probably agree with that. And so 00:23:23.690 --> 00:23:26.769 this is my way of letting it out with a catchy, 00:23:26.869 --> 00:23:28.509 I mean, that song in particular has got a real 00:23:28.509 --> 00:23:31.910 catchy swing It's quite an upbeat, swinging song, 00:23:32.390 --> 00:23:37.750 but it comes at a price because personally I'm 00:23:37.750 --> 00:23:39.930 probably not going to talk about any of that 00:23:39.930 --> 00:23:43.549 stuff. So I'm sort of setting myself up for some 00:23:43.549 --> 00:23:49.650 problems. Well, I just so enjoy it because as 00:23:49.650 --> 00:23:54.329 a fan of music and of an artist that is an open 00:23:54.329 --> 00:23:57.910 book, it helps me get in touch with some of that. 00:23:58.089 --> 00:24:01.950 some of those emotions as well. Everybody's got 00:24:01.950 --> 00:24:06.170 something unresolved in their heart, in their 00:24:06.170 --> 00:24:09.650 head. And it may be from two weeks ago or 20 00:24:09.650 --> 00:24:14.650 years ago. And you may be 98 % over something, 00:24:14.710 --> 00:24:16.970 but you still have that thought running through 00:24:16.970 --> 00:24:19.829 your mind every so often. So I just like that. 00:24:20.690 --> 00:24:24.450 Oh, that's great to hear. I mean, in the same 00:24:24.450 --> 00:24:29.809 way that I love I love movies and I love living 00:24:29.809 --> 00:24:33.069 vicariously through actors. And that's probably 00:24:33.069 --> 00:24:37.710 a very similar thing. It's exaggerated versions 00:24:37.710 --> 00:24:43.109 of people. I think that's what I mean. And Dan, 00:24:43.829 --> 00:24:46.049 I also put in some of my notes here. You can't 00:24:46.049 --> 00:24:49.490 stop what's begun. This song, I had the hardest 00:24:49.490 --> 00:24:52.490 time getting my brother to listen to anything 00:24:52.490 --> 00:24:55.839 that I recommend. And it could be right in his 00:24:55.839 --> 00:24:58.519 wheelhouse and it will take him two years to 00:24:58.519 --> 00:25:01.180 finally listen to it. So I got to think of clever 00:25:01.180 --> 00:25:03.200 ways to get him to. All right. Well, listen to 00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:06.000 this one track. You can't stop what's begun. 00:25:06.319 --> 00:25:10.759 Dan, I think that a Netflix producer, a Hollywood 00:25:10.759 --> 00:25:14.299 producer needs to approach you about this track 00:25:14.299 --> 00:25:17.119 and include it in a full length film. It's just 00:25:17.119 --> 00:25:21.720 got that feel to it. It's got that haunting whisper. 00:25:22.059 --> 00:25:24.829 The devil on the shoulder. type thing, take the 00:25:24.829 --> 00:25:30.690 money and the gun. Do you remember what inspired 00:25:30.690 --> 00:25:33.910 that song? Another question maybe, do you ever 00:25:33.910 --> 00:25:35.809 start scratching out lyrics before you have the 00:25:35.809 --> 00:25:39.369 melody or does the melody come first? So that 00:25:39.369 --> 00:25:43.109 song and in relation to your question, it's usually 00:25:43.109 --> 00:25:47.349 those kind of mood pieces that kind of write 00:25:47.349 --> 00:25:51.069 themselves. It's usually a feeling that you have 00:25:51.069 --> 00:25:55.049 and the words just pour or out, the whole feeling 00:25:55.049 --> 00:25:57.789 pours out. So it's like, whatever you're feeling, 00:25:58.029 --> 00:25:59.890 and you wake up, often it's in the morning as 00:25:59.890 --> 00:26:01.829 well, you get out of bed, you wake up feeling 00:26:01.829 --> 00:26:05.690 like that. And that song in particular has got 00:26:05.690 --> 00:26:09.250 a real sense of fatalism to it, that it doesn't 00:26:09.250 --> 00:26:14.029 matter which road you take, things aren't gonna 00:26:14.029 --> 00:26:18.650 end well. And so... I have noticed some songs 00:26:18.650 --> 00:26:21.990 do have a nihilistic quality to them. You know, 00:26:22.190 --> 00:26:24.089 I think I think I've been in that I think I've 00:26:24.089 --> 00:26:26.529 fallen into that feeling a lot I'm not a lot, 00:26:26.529 --> 00:26:28.509 but you know throughout my life as we all have 00:26:28.509 --> 00:26:31.970 and One of the reasons why I stopped drinking 00:26:31.970 --> 00:26:34.309 was to sort of put a stop to that put a stop 00:26:34.309 --> 00:26:36.650 line there Doesn't mean I still can't write about 00:26:36.650 --> 00:26:39.549 it and feel it but it's a bad place to be and 00:26:39.549 --> 00:26:42.849 it can lead to a whole bunch of trouble and We've 00:26:42.849 --> 00:26:46.730 all seen friends and aspects of ourselves Go 00:26:46.730 --> 00:26:50.690 on this nihilistic trip and I just think that 00:26:50.690 --> 00:26:54.720 it's it's you know people talk about heaven and 00:26:54.720 --> 00:26:57.740 hell and everything and you know I think that's 00:26:57.740 --> 00:27:01.920 what hell is it's um it's hopelessness and it's 00:27:01.920 --> 00:27:05.019 within us all as is god and goodness and love 00:27:05.019 --> 00:27:09.339 it's equally equal parts and I suppose it frightens 00:27:09.339 --> 00:27:12.559 me and so it's quite interesting to write about 00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:16.940 yeah speaking about sobriety I'm if you had asked 00:27:16.940 --> 00:27:21.710 me two months ago I had no plan to Stop drinking. 00:27:21.750 --> 00:27:24.930 I still don't know if I'll if I'll have a drink 00:27:24.930 --> 00:27:28.130 in two weeks or next Wednesday I don't know yet, 00:27:28.130 --> 00:27:30.910 but for some reason I you know, I got kovat in 00:27:30.910 --> 00:27:34.930 November and sometimes if you if you go down 00:27:34.930 --> 00:27:39.250 for a week and a half with the flu or You just 00:27:39.250 --> 00:27:41.950 don't feel well enough to drink or smoke cigarettes 00:27:41.950 --> 00:27:45.769 there were times when I smoked that I just a 00:27:45.769 --> 00:27:49.390 few days would go by and your body thanks you 00:27:49.390 --> 00:27:53.529 for Not being able to do that you feel better 00:27:53.529 --> 00:27:55.970 but yeah, so I've actually put together like 00:27:55.970 --> 00:28:00.470 an eight week stretch of And I I've got cold 00:28:00.470 --> 00:28:02.589 beer in the fridge. I mean it's right there, 00:28:02.630 --> 00:28:08.990 but yeah, I kind of like At least day by day 00:28:08.990 --> 00:28:13.069 Not having it in my routine. I don't didn't really 00:28:13.069 --> 00:28:17.930 need to be there right now Yeah But that's right. 00:28:17.970 --> 00:28:20.730 You notice some things I think in life. We need 00:28:20.730 --> 00:28:23.509 a lot of people Especially in this day and age 00:28:23.509 --> 00:28:26.789 you need immediate results. There's an immediacy 00:28:26.789 --> 00:28:29.829 that we want to see There's this give -and -take 00:28:29.829 --> 00:28:31.609 all right if I put the cigarettes down. I better 00:28:31.609 --> 00:28:35.670 be feeling like a hundred bucks tomorrow If I 00:28:35.670 --> 00:28:38.450 stop drinking you don't really notice how your 00:28:38.450 --> 00:28:41.910 body Improves or just the way you feel improves 00:28:41.910 --> 00:28:44.269 the next day. It's gonna take some time, but 00:28:44.269 --> 00:28:48.660 you will notice it Yeah, well that's that's positive 00:28:48.660 --> 00:28:54.119 Yeah, I don't think I don't think anyone can 00:28:54.119 --> 00:28:57.259 really drink after the age of 40 because you're 00:28:57.259 --> 00:29:00.700 declining right your body is declining and and 00:29:00.700 --> 00:29:02.839 Henry Rollins he had quite recently he said, 00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:06.740 you know Exercising is your your body's trying 00:29:06.740 --> 00:29:09.259 to fool your body that you're not dying. Well, 00:29:09.259 --> 00:29:12.839 that was pretty funny But you know each their 00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:15.660 own having said all that Dan, I'm in the alcohol 00:29:15.660 --> 00:29:18.400 -selling business. I mean, you know, I don't 00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:21.079 get hired to play in a pub or in a hotel, you 00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:24.160 know, for the sake of it. You're selling. Ultimately, 00:29:24.339 --> 00:29:26.819 the way it's set up, it has been for a long time, 00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:30.480 you're selling booze. But, you know, I can only 00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:34.400 live my own life on my own terms and let people 00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:38.339 know the positive aspects of my life, but I'm 00:29:38.339 --> 00:29:41.119 not going to ram it down people's throat either, 00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:46.599 you know. Yeah, you're right about that. But 00:29:46.599 --> 00:29:49.960 eight weeks is great. I mean, I got a book that 00:29:49.960 --> 00:29:54.180 was over lockdown. So over lockdown, I went to 00:29:54.180 --> 00:29:57.960 the bottle shop and we got some government money 00:29:57.960 --> 00:30:02.799 because it couldn't work. And so I got my money 00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:06.640 and I bought every bottle that you have in a 00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:09.039 cocktail bar. And I set up my own private cocktail 00:30:09.039 --> 00:30:15.819 bar in my room. make martinis and margarita you 00:30:15.819 --> 00:30:18.359 know a book and i got right into it so i did 00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:21.400 that for about i don't know three six months 00:30:21.400 --> 00:30:24.539 and then woke up one day and said well that's 00:30:24.539 --> 00:30:28.299 you know i can't keep doing this and so um i 00:30:28.299 --> 00:30:31.480 got this book called 100 days sober and each 00:30:31.480 --> 00:30:34.759 day had an affirmation and after 100 days i thought 00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:36.740 oh that i'll keep going with it because i felt 00:30:36.740 --> 00:30:40.099 better so that's what happened that's really 00:30:40.099 --> 00:30:43.980 good it's The long long term like oh my gosh, 00:30:43.980 --> 00:30:46.079 I got to quit forever is a little overwhelming 00:30:46.079 --> 00:30:52.740 for people. It is Just have a wake up or something 00:30:52.740 --> 00:30:57.579 start with that right Yeah, you know talking 00:30:57.579 --> 00:31:00.920 about this my favorite track I from your back 00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:02.559 catalog because I just I really love the new 00:31:02.559 --> 00:31:06.819 album but tear us down in The video that goes 00:31:06.819 --> 00:31:11.400 along with that I had quite a powerful experience 00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:15.079 watching that video. It's like the first thing 00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:17.299 that's in focus is just you and then your guitar 00:31:17.299 --> 00:31:20.519 comes into play and then what maybe is a cocktail 00:31:20.519 --> 00:31:27.460 comes into play. Lyrically, musically, the chord 00:31:27.460 --> 00:31:31.079 progression in that song, I just think it's one 00:31:31.079 --> 00:31:36.390 of your standout tracks. Oh, thank you. Do you 00:31:36.390 --> 00:31:42.470 perform that one live still? Yeah, I do. I actually 00:31:42.470 --> 00:31:46.849 just performed it live with a band at a festival 00:31:46.849 --> 00:31:50.690 recently for the first time in, well, ever. I'd 00:31:50.690 --> 00:31:54.730 never played it with a band. I do. When I play 00:31:54.730 --> 00:31:59.130 solo, I play it. At the moment, I'm trying to 00:31:59.130 --> 00:32:03.920 blend. I've got this kind of real huge. difference 00:32:03.920 --> 00:32:09.519 in the music this is real punk energetic rock 00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:12.579 and roll side and then this is quite tender -hearted 00:32:12.579 --> 00:32:15.819 balladry and at the moment i suppose i'm trying 00:32:15.819 --> 00:32:19.480 to reconcile those two things because i think 00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:23.240 that that's that's what i do and that's what 00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:27.619 people respond to and to go one way isn't a true 00:32:27.619 --> 00:32:32.900 representation of myself so Yeah, I've just started 00:32:32.900 --> 00:32:35.460 playing that song again, Terrace Down. I like 00:32:35.460 --> 00:32:38.440 that song, and that one took literally as long 00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:40.960 as the song is to write. It took about three 00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:42.880 or four minutes to write. It was just, I remember 00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:45.299 when I wrote it, I wrote it in a kitchen with 00:32:45.299 --> 00:32:49.240 a six pack of beer a long time ago, and the music 00:32:49.240 --> 00:32:52.400 video was done in the middle of chemotherapy, 00:32:52.539 --> 00:32:56.650 so I was three months into it, and I was... So 00:32:56.650 --> 00:32:59.009 with chemo, yeah, people have had it, I'm sure 00:32:59.009 --> 00:33:01.150 plenty of your listeners, you get sick and then 00:33:01.150 --> 00:33:03.710 you feel better again. And as you're on the upswing, 00:33:04.069 --> 00:33:07.490 they dose you again. So it was like on the upswing 00:33:07.490 --> 00:33:09.890 and I think I had to go back the next day or 00:33:09.890 --> 00:33:12.210 something and then I'd get sick again. So we 00:33:12.210 --> 00:33:15.269 shot that. Yeah, that's a good video. I like 00:33:15.269 --> 00:33:17.049 that. It's pretty raw, actually, really. I mean, 00:33:17.430 --> 00:33:19.349 it doesn't get much rarer than that, I suppose, 00:33:19.450 --> 00:33:22.069 because yeah, I wasn't feeling very well. It 00:33:22.069 --> 00:33:24.700 was really good of my brother and my friend Dave 00:33:24.700 --> 00:33:27.259 to make the video for me too so it was a lovely 00:33:27.259 --> 00:33:30.460 gift of them yeah and like you were just saying 00:33:30.460 --> 00:33:33.039 there's multiple sides to you you take a video 00:33:33.039 --> 00:33:38.839 and a song like that and then and the video for 00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:43.319 that one is quite comical so folks if you again 00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:45.019 I think I said this at the top of the episode 00:33:45.019 --> 00:33:47.099 if you listen to a couple tracks and you think 00:33:47.099 --> 00:33:50.240 you've got Dan Brody pinned down to one style 00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:53.740 He's gonna completely flip the script on you 00:33:53.740 --> 00:33:56.460 the more you listen and you're gonna love it 00:33:56.460 --> 00:34:02.700 that video That was great who That must have 00:34:02.700 --> 00:34:06.779 taken some collaboration the the concept of that 00:34:06.779 --> 00:34:11.880 video and dot draw such a song and that's from 00:34:11.880 --> 00:34:15.860 Funeraria Yeah, that was made by a friend of 00:34:15.860 --> 00:34:19.880 mine. Joe Volante and he's kind of involved in 00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:23.030 the comedy acting world he got a bunch of different 00:34:23.030 --> 00:34:26.650 people involved and then my friend did did the 00:34:26.650 --> 00:34:30.170 graphics with the sausages and stuff and uh I 00:34:30.170 --> 00:34:32.190 really like that song under twice lost his son 00:34:32.190 --> 00:34:34.289 I've done a fair bit of touring in Europe over 00:34:34.289 --> 00:34:37.730 the years and got a bit of a fan base in France 00:34:37.730 --> 00:34:42.909 and um I just uh you know I like those kind of 00:34:42.909 --> 00:34:44.989 with I mean with songwriting I mean to answer 00:34:44.989 --> 00:34:47.530 the question about the variety of songs I just 00:34:48.210 --> 00:34:50.989 I love all songwriting. I find it very difficult 00:34:50.989 --> 00:34:55.710 to focus on one style, but I do admire people 00:34:55.710 --> 00:34:58.369 that do that. And I think you have an easier 00:34:58.369 --> 00:35:00.909 career if you do, you do, because people go, 00:35:01.070 --> 00:35:04.510 right, cool, they're this or they're that. What 00:35:04.510 --> 00:35:08.429 I do is, it's what I do, but yeah, it doesn't 00:35:08.429 --> 00:35:11.769 make for an easy, easy ride, you know. I'm like, 00:35:11.769 --> 00:35:14.630 you know, I'm like the wean of Australia, you 00:35:14.630 --> 00:35:17.369 know. Here's a country record. Now, here's a 00:35:17.369 --> 00:35:21.349 metal record. Now, here's a, you know, but for 00:35:21.349 --> 00:35:25.349 me, it's all part of the same tapestry. Nde Twa 00:35:25.349 --> 00:35:30.949 Sausage Son is a fun gimmick song with this intense 00:35:30.949 --> 00:35:35.690 refrain of one, two, three sausages, which I 00:35:35.690 --> 00:35:38.190 guess appeals to my sense of humor. So what can 00:35:38.190 --> 00:35:43.650 I say? Yeah. And it has a real psychedelic quality 00:35:43.650 --> 00:35:45.960 to it. Which I can imagine goes over pretty well 00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:49.760 in the live performance and yeah, and and you 00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:53.320 speak in Track number three again as I call it 00:35:53.320 --> 00:35:56.699 on the ballad of cowboy Dan. You only like me 00:35:56.699 --> 00:36:00.420 because I'm big in France So then an ode to your 00:36:00.420 --> 00:36:05.400 French fans there Yeah, also Dan and I'll put 00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:08.599 this when I promote the episode. I'm make sure 00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:12.199 to Mention your accolades here. You're twice 00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:17.739 nominated for A .R .I .A. Music Awards. And that 00:36:17.739 --> 00:36:21.719 was for your major label debut on Capitol Records, 00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:26.019 Empty Arms, Broken Hearts, which again, this 00:36:26.019 --> 00:36:28.659 is, if what I read was correct, you guys went 00:36:28.659 --> 00:36:32.320 back in one night and did the retrospective, 00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:35.699 The Big Hearted Lovin' Man, which captured like 00:36:35.699 --> 00:36:39.000 your favorite songs from those early records 00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:42.679 up to about 2014. or he recorded that in one 00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:46.380 night yeah that's a good one because some of 00:36:46.380 --> 00:36:49.199 those tracks on the on the first few albums i 00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:52.159 couldn't find immediately available as far as 00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:55.579 for download um yeah but some great songs they're 00:36:55.579 --> 00:36:58.860 low i think lower me down was one of my favorites 00:36:58.860 --> 00:37:02.000 from well lower me down is from my friend the 00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:05.800 murderer yeah that's one of my favorite albums 00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:08.940 my friend the murderer i released that in 2011 00:37:09.659 --> 00:37:12.599 and that's the first independent record that 00:37:12.599 --> 00:37:15.300 I made. I got signed to EMI when I was pretty 00:37:15.300 --> 00:37:20.519 young, EMI Capital and yeah that was a really 00:37:20.519 --> 00:37:23.400 trippy experience. They're a good team of people 00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:25.780 like you know they were this guy Tony Harlow, 00:37:25.820 --> 00:37:28.880 this English guy was in Australia running EMI, 00:37:28.980 --> 00:37:32.500 he loved what I did and he signed me and so I 00:37:32.500 --> 00:37:36.260 released three albums with them and yeah the 00:37:36.260 --> 00:37:39.599 ARIA Awards they're called. got to go to that 00:37:39.599 --> 00:37:44.440 and get nominated and we worked with some American 00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:46.980 producers and flew them out for that record, 00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:50.000 Empty Arms Broken Hearts, a guy called John Waller 00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:52.960 who'd worked with Willie Nelson and this other 00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:56.679 guy called Oz Fritz who'd done Bone Machine with 00:37:56.679 --> 00:38:00.780 Tom Waits, he was an engineer and yeah, they 00:38:00.780 --> 00:38:05.179 came out and produced and engineered the record 00:38:05.179 --> 00:38:10.829 and yeah. It was a really, it was a good experience. 00:38:10.909 --> 00:38:13.730 It was, you know, of its time. I don't know, 00:38:14.409 --> 00:38:17.050 I don't think my, now I would, it was fun at 00:38:17.050 --> 00:38:19.510 the time. You work with big marketing teams. 00:38:19.510 --> 00:38:21.710 I mean, that stuff's just not really around anymore, 00:38:22.590 --> 00:38:25.510 unless you're Taylor Swift or something, that 00:38:25.510 --> 00:38:28.210 so many people I know didn't get to experience 00:38:28.210 --> 00:38:31.110 that. It was a once in a lifetime, it was the 00:38:31.110 --> 00:38:33.090 music industry. I mean, people argue that there's 00:38:33.090 --> 00:38:35.789 not even a music industry anymore, which I don't 00:38:35.789 --> 00:38:41.320 know. It's so DIY now. There's no rules and It's 00:38:41.320 --> 00:38:43.340 kind of exhilarating. You know, you can make 00:38:43.340 --> 00:38:45.380 whatever music videos you want. You can record 00:38:45.380 --> 00:38:47.639 whenever you want It's pretty cool. You got to 00:38:47.639 --> 00:38:50.179 look at the positives. I think Yeah, like like 00:38:50.179 --> 00:38:52.880 you said it probably it fit the time period. 00:38:53.619 --> 00:38:56.639 Yeah, is it right that you You financed the first 00:38:56.639 --> 00:39:00.239 EP i'm floating mama maybe even big black guitar 00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:03.199 Yeah, um, I guess or the independent release 00:39:03.199 --> 00:39:06.820 before Yeah, I just financed that myself through 00:39:06.820 --> 00:39:08.480 cleaning or whatever I was doing at the time 00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:10.960 and then yeah and then I was on a small label 00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:14.699 Australian label and then that led to the the 00:39:14.699 --> 00:39:18.980 deal with EMI and um yeah I mean the the difference 00:39:18.980 --> 00:39:21.820 between being on a major label and independent 00:39:21.820 --> 00:39:25.400 I mean it's you know it's vast experiences I 00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:28.400 mean the bit the budgets for the music videos 00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:32.539 were you know huge that the budgets for the recording 00:39:32.539 --> 00:39:36.119 was was huge so um I feel pretty blessed that 00:39:36.119 --> 00:39:39.820 I got to experience, um, it's that almost famous 00:39:39.820 --> 00:39:43.960 type, uh, you know, what people dream about. 00:39:44.099 --> 00:39:47.019 I got to experience it. So, um, it was good. 00:39:47.500 --> 00:39:50.440 Yeah. Well, I, again, I think that you've written 00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:55.780 your best record. I read artist interviews where 00:39:55.780 --> 00:39:58.699 it's common for the artists themselves to say, 00:39:58.739 --> 00:40:01.139 Oh, this is the best thing that we've put out. 00:40:01.659 --> 00:40:03.940 Um, this is some of my best song, songwriting. 00:40:04.429 --> 00:40:06.849 It's like well, of course that you're gonna say 00:40:06.849 --> 00:40:11.289 that but as a listener and just the evolution 00:40:11.289 --> 00:40:15.309 that I've studied Just the past few weeks. I 00:40:15.309 --> 00:40:19.230 really think the ballad of cowboy Dan It it's 00:40:19.230 --> 00:40:24.210 a culmination It's the story. It's the I Guess 00:40:24.210 --> 00:40:27.710 you probably started hearing cowboy Dan way back 00:40:27.710 --> 00:40:30.190 When you released the first single I love you, 00:40:30.210 --> 00:40:32.590 baby. There were people calling you call cowboy 00:40:32.590 --> 00:40:35.280 Dan those early years and so you said well shoot 00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:37.860 I guess I probably just need to do an album here 00:40:37.860 --> 00:40:41.400 you guys have created this character let's give 00:40:41.400 --> 00:40:51.400 it some life exactly what happened so yeah exactly 00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:53.760 exactly why I did it and I just I just thought 00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:57.809 it was hilarious and people haven't used that 00:40:57.809 --> 00:40:59.849 title for a very long time so I thought well 00:40:59.849 --> 00:41:02.369 I'll just you know resurrect it and um create 00:41:02.369 --> 00:41:05.210 this character and I'll give you what exactly 00:41:05.210 --> 00:41:08.590 what you want and the songs have a lot of gusto 00:41:08.590 --> 00:41:11.789 and a lot of bravado and a lot of myth creation 00:41:11.789 --> 00:41:14.769 and it's also commenting on that as well you 00:41:14.769 --> 00:41:18.630 know the Americana scene old country scene it 00:41:18.630 --> 00:41:21.289 used to be called it's one of the fastest growing 00:41:21.289 --> 00:41:23.789 scenes in the world particularly in Australia 00:41:23.789 --> 00:41:28.550 I'm sure in the US as well and every man and 00:41:28.550 --> 00:41:32.969 woman and their dog is donning a cowboy hat and 00:41:32.969 --> 00:41:37.130 talking about the dust bowl and their experience, 00:41:37.130 --> 00:41:44.710 you know, as an okie. Anyway, hey, I just thought 00:41:44.710 --> 00:41:49.070 it might be a nice time to go into that world. 00:41:49.690 --> 00:41:52.190 You know, I hope that doesn't come across as 00:41:52.190 --> 00:41:56.170 too cynical because I do love that kind of music, 00:41:56.469 --> 00:41:58.889 and I play that sort of, I mean, I dip my toe 00:41:58.889 --> 00:42:01.409 pretty heavily into the sort of twang and stuff, 00:42:01.449 --> 00:42:04.750 and it's very heartfelt, but I also thought it 00:42:04.750 --> 00:42:10.090 was a nice way to present an album. Yeah, and 00:42:10.090 --> 00:42:15.070 the artwork, the design there, it's just, it's 00:42:15.070 --> 00:42:20.630 captivating. Now, a recent review of your music, 00:42:20.969 --> 00:42:25.269 Chris Familton, Post2Wire .com, For people listening, 00:42:25.309 --> 00:42:28.829 this is what he had to say quote if you can imagine 00:42:28.829 --> 00:42:32.670 Dylan and nilson recording an eclectic Cosmic 00:42:32.670 --> 00:42:35.650 Americana record it might sound something like 00:42:35.650 --> 00:42:37.849 this impressive album. I think he hit it the 00:42:37.849 --> 00:42:41.809 nail on the head there I know way back you were 00:42:41.809 --> 00:42:45.949 referred to as Australia's melon camp get some 00:42:45.949 --> 00:42:49.409 comparisons to Elvis on certain tracks Johnny 00:42:49.409 --> 00:42:54.670 Cash Steve Earl probably more appropriately But 00:42:54.670 --> 00:42:57.190 again, yeah, you kind of got little flashes of 00:42:57.190 --> 00:42:59.730 those characters those performers, but there's 00:42:59.730 --> 00:43:05.710 only one Dan Brody and And you kind of Don't 00:43:05.710 --> 00:43:09.750 get too far or too pot -committed I guess to 00:43:09.750 --> 00:43:15.010 one one character one style one type of songwriting 00:43:15.010 --> 00:43:18.349 No, I don't and I mean I wouldn't really want 00:43:18.349 --> 00:43:23.130 to I think life's way too Interesting to go into 00:43:23.130 --> 00:43:26.460 just one one's style. You've got to inject your 00:43:26.460 --> 00:43:29.760 personality into it and yeah, I mean to be honest 00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:33.420 Dan, it hasn't been the easiest career in the 00:43:33.420 --> 00:43:36.860 world and if I reigned it in a bit I probably 00:43:36.860 --> 00:43:39.860 could have had an easier ride but again you can 00:43:39.860 --> 00:43:42.980 only be yourself. The people that I really admire, 00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:46.739 I mentioned Spencer P. Jones, his other Australian 00:43:46.739 --> 00:43:50.199 songwriters, well and songwriters around the 00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:52.429 world. I mean, Dylan's a fine example. I mean, 00:43:52.449 --> 00:43:55.250 he's done exactly what he what he wanted to do. 00:43:55.949 --> 00:43:58.989 So, you know, obviously, Neil Young is a is a 00:43:58.989 --> 00:44:01.809 great touchstone and another guy's done exactly 00:44:01.809 --> 00:44:06.110 what he wanted to do. So that's what I. Yeah, 00:44:06.150 --> 00:44:08.050 that's what it's something that I really respect. 00:44:09.590 --> 00:44:14.650 Well, Dan, we'll have to hopefully connect again, 00:44:14.650 --> 00:44:17.730 maybe this time next year, maybe this time six 00:44:17.730 --> 00:44:20.199 months from now. so much more I want to dive 00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:25.619 into with you but folks visit the website it's 00:44:25.619 --> 00:44:31.860 danbrody .com .au you can find the videos there 00:44:31.860 --> 00:44:36.000 you can order the Ballad of Cowboy Dan on LP 00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:39.519 on vinyl you can read Dan's bio you can read 00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:42.159 some of the press on him uh we didn't talk about 00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:45.980 Lost Not Found it's a very Wow, I mean you see 00:44:45.980 --> 00:44:48.019 some of the tracks on here and you have you have 00:44:48.019 --> 00:44:50.880 an expectation I mean I like motorhead and I 00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:53.980 saw a damaged case and I said I had because it 00:44:53.980 --> 00:44:56.139 first when you're looking at it You don't immediately 00:44:56.139 --> 00:44:58.940 know that this is motorhead. And so when I hit 00:44:58.940 --> 00:45:02.840 play you could have never predicted this interpretation 00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:06.679 We'll have to again. Like I said, that's a topic 00:45:06.679 --> 00:45:09.099 for another episode Dan. You've been so generous 00:45:09.099 --> 00:45:13.380 with your time I'm glad to Introduce you to my 00:45:13.380 --> 00:45:16.920 listeners to get you some more exposure and My 00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:20.260 gosh critics get with the program over here in 00:45:20.260 --> 00:45:24.719 the states get on the Dan Brody train and Let's 00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:28.480 get some hype for this album and I'm excited. 00:45:28.539 --> 00:45:30.980 Like you said that you just beyond what you're 00:45:30.980 --> 00:45:33.980 doing and Your own music you like just getting 00:45:33.980 --> 00:45:36.480 up there and playing with other performers just 00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:39.960 playing music. Yeah, I just love connecting with 00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:42.780 an audience and I've been playing accordion as 00:45:42.780 --> 00:45:47.059 well, which I love too. And you play piano, acoustic, 00:45:47.219 --> 00:45:51.980 electric guitar, harmonica. And I did mean to 00:45:51.980 --> 00:45:57.039 highlight the backup female vocalist on some 00:45:57.039 --> 00:45:58.820 of your tracks. I may have to ask you their names. 00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:00.559 I had them written down, but I've got things 00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:03.880 scattered here. Who are like on the Ballad of 00:46:03.880 --> 00:46:07.059 Cowboy Dan, the title track? I got a bunch of 00:46:07.059 --> 00:46:08.780 friends in Melbourne that are all called Katie. 00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:13.880 Yeah. Anyway, I don't want to put them all in 00:46:13.880 --> 00:46:17.039 the same because that'll piss them off. But um, 00:46:17.599 --> 00:46:20.360 that is Katie Bates, who plays bass in my band. 00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:24.780 And she's a singer songwriter, right? She's great. 00:46:24.780 --> 00:46:27.179 She just did a tour of the US and Europe with 00:46:27.179 --> 00:46:29.780 a another songwriter playing bass with her actually 00:46:29.780 --> 00:46:32.679 for three months, played Nashville all over. 00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:35.719 And so she plays bass, she's back in Australia 00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:40.039 and sings got a beautiful voice. And then On 00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:43.139 that song, my last picture show, there's a girl 00:46:43.139 --> 00:46:47.380 called Katie Branagh, who's also a great singer 00:46:47.380 --> 00:46:50.659 songwriter, and she's got three albums out. And 00:46:50.659 --> 00:46:54.440 so yeah, it's a really strong community in Melbourne. 00:46:55.320 --> 00:46:57.079 You know, I mean, people from all around Australia 00:46:57.079 --> 00:47:01.420 moved to Melbourne to get some traction. And 00:47:01.420 --> 00:47:04.079 it's a good scene, very supportive. So we all 00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:06.260 play in each other's bands. I've got a big bunch 00:47:06.260 --> 00:47:09.320 of friends and yeah, it's a nice thing. I think 00:47:10.010 --> 00:47:14.050 You really need that as an artist musician Without 00:47:14.050 --> 00:47:16.250 the community, you know, it's a pretty lonely 00:47:16.250 --> 00:47:21.389 lonely existence And Dave Watkins, I should have 00:47:21.389 --> 00:47:23.289 said something earlier speaking about the title 00:47:23.289 --> 00:47:25.710 track of the album I want to be sure I mentioned 00:47:25.710 --> 00:47:28.670 this what he starts doing on that ride symbol 00:47:28.670 --> 00:47:32.150 about halfway through the song. I Just fell back 00:47:32.150 --> 00:47:35.630 in my chair and I thought nobody does this. I 00:47:35.630 --> 00:47:37.570 don't I don't hear this in other songs. This 00:47:37.570 --> 00:47:40.380 is amazing And he just starts, I don't know if 00:47:40.380 --> 00:47:43.780 that was completely improvised. If you knew it 00:47:43.780 --> 00:47:46.800 was happening, if it was a rant, but just folks 00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:48.679 listen to the whole album, but listen to the 00:47:48.679 --> 00:47:50.300 title track. You're going to fall in love with 00:47:50.300 --> 00:47:53.780 it. I just love that, that open percussion kind 00:47:53.780 --> 00:47:57.780 of jazzy. Don't know what I'm going to be banging 00:47:57.780 --> 00:48:02.579 on next. And yeah, just it was perfect. Yeah, 00:48:02.579 --> 00:48:05.320 he's great Dave. I probably haven't spoken about 00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:09.400 him enough in interviews, but Yeah, he did a 00:48:09.400 --> 00:48:12.260 great job playing on the album. He's moved to 00:48:12.260 --> 00:48:14.400 another state of Australia So I haven't really 00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:17.900 seen him for a while. But um, yeah, it would 00:48:17.900 --> 00:48:21.900 be nice to Live I play with different people 00:48:21.900 --> 00:48:24.420 than the album. But um, yeah, he did a great 00:48:24.420 --> 00:48:27.639 job All right. Well any anything else that you 00:48:27.639 --> 00:48:30.239 want to promote here anything you want to plug? 00:48:31.119 --> 00:48:35.380 Not really. No, I'm just really busy the album 00:48:35.980 --> 00:48:38.079 The Ballad of Calway Down, I just wanted to say 00:48:38.079 --> 00:48:42.699 was I recorded a spoken word album over lockdown, 00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:48.860 which never came to fruition. And so the Ballad 00:48:48.860 --> 00:48:51.960 of Calway Down was part of that. And that's why 00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:55.820 it came onto the new project with more of a song 00:48:55.820 --> 00:48:59.820 based project. So I'm working on the spoken word 00:48:59.820 --> 00:49:05.619 album now. And so that's going to be Yeah, I 00:49:05.619 --> 00:49:09.480 guess that's going to be what the original version 00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:12.340 of the Ballad of Cowboy Dan would have been like 00:49:12.340 --> 00:49:14.119 without song structure, so a little bit more 00:49:14.119 --> 00:49:17.679 abstract. So that's exciting and hopefully I'll 00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:21.719 be able to talk to you about that once I get 00:49:21.719 --> 00:49:23.539 it off the ground. But I want to say thanks so 00:49:23.539 --> 00:49:26.199 much for having me and it's been a real pleasure 00:49:26.199 --> 00:49:28.539 talking to you and really refreshing to talk 00:49:28.539 --> 00:49:31.579 to someone that's really gone deep on the album 00:49:31.579 --> 00:49:35.159 and listened and it's a really It's a really 00:49:35.159 --> 00:49:38.980 good feeling. So thank you Dan You're welcome 00:49:38.980 --> 00:49:41.980 and thanks for again Dedicating the time for 00:49:41.980 --> 00:49:44.639 this. I feel like I get long -winded at times 00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:48.820 the discussion just It goes on and not and so 00:49:48.820 --> 00:49:51.860 I hope you enjoyed our conversation I certainly 00:49:51.860 --> 00:49:55.400 did and I would love to talk to you again after 00:49:55.400 --> 00:50:01.260 the next release Absolutely Okay, Dan. Well And 00:50:01.260 --> 00:50:03.940 maybe see in the states, maybe I'll make my way 00:50:03.940 --> 00:50:07.699 to Melbourne, Australia. It's on the bucket list. 00:50:08.300 --> 00:50:11.579 You probably don't have any immediate plans for 00:50:11.579 --> 00:50:16.420 an international touring, right? Nothing immediate, 00:50:16.699 --> 00:50:19.360 but I certainly would like to get back to the 00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:23.000 US. The last time I was there was 2011. I did 00:50:23.000 --> 00:50:28.159 South By and I played in LA and in New York. 00:50:29.050 --> 00:50:32.269 Always have a good time there. And, uh, I mean, 00:50:32.670 --> 00:50:35.429 even though my music's kind of selling ice to 00:50:35.429 --> 00:50:38.869 the Eskimos, um, I find us audiences kind of 00:50:38.869 --> 00:50:42.630 appreciate what I do. And so, uh, no, I'd love 00:50:42.630 --> 00:50:46.349 to, to get back there. Uh, so yeah, stay tuned. 00:50:46.369 --> 00:50:50.030 I guess we'll see. All right. Well, you look 00:50:50.030 --> 00:50:52.489 great. You sound great. I'm so happy to hear. 00:50:52.590 --> 00:50:57.010 I had no idea about your sobriety. So, uh, keep 00:50:57.010 --> 00:51:02.599 on keeping on, man. Yeah. I'm glad that I found 00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:04.579 you and discovered your music just through this 00:51:04.579 --> 00:51:06.519 podcast. Otherwise, I don't know if I would have, 00:51:06.699 --> 00:51:09.820 but I love what you're doing. Thank you, Dan. 00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:12.639 Okay, folks. Well, that's it for this episode 00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:17.780 of Dan Time. And remember, there's music outside 00:51:17.780 --> 00:51:22.500 of your bubble just waiting to delight your ears, 00:51:22.940 --> 00:51:25.360 and you're only a few clicks away from finding 00:51:25.360 --> 00:51:29.760 it. If you keep listening to this show, I'm going 00:51:29.760 --> 00:51:32.900 to make it my mission to always introduce artists 00:51:32.900 --> 00:51:35.659 to you that you would not have ordinarily found. 00:51:36.119 --> 00:51:38.159 You wouldn't have scrolled to the bottom of the 00:51:38.159 --> 00:51:40.440 page where it says, Oh, you like this? You might 00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:43.460 also like these four or five others. You're not 00:51:43.460 --> 00:51:45.260 going to find everything that you need to hear 00:51:45.260 --> 00:51:48.639 that way. So, uh, I don't know even know how 00:51:48.639 --> 00:51:53.400 to wrap that comment up, but remember go to Dan. 00:51:53.849 --> 00:51:57.670 Brody B -R -O -D -I -E dot com dot A -U. Check 00:51:57.670 --> 00:51:59.969 out his catalog. If you're on Spotify, Apple 00:51:59.969 --> 00:52:03.829 Music, anywhere you stream music, check out the 00:52:03.829 --> 00:52:06.530 back catalog as well. This has been great. You 00:52:06.530 --> 00:52:09.190 guys have a wonderful week and we'll see you 00:52:09.190 --> 00:52:12.630 next time on the Danzheim Podcast. Thank you, 00:52:12.769 --> 00:52:20.659 Dan. Thank you, Dan. All right. If you love that 00:52:20.659 --> 00:52:23.420 episode, if you're enjoying the Dan Time podcast, 00:52:23.880 --> 00:52:26.079 be sure to download and subscribe so you never 00:52:26.079 --> 00:52:29.559 miss an episode. You can reach me at dantimepod 00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:32.980 at gmail .com. If you really want to connect 00:52:32.980 --> 00:52:35.619 with Dan Time through the week, visit any of 00:52:35.619 --> 00:52:39.219 the social media pages. I'm on X, Facebook, Instagram, 00:52:39.659 --> 00:52:42.900 YouTube. You can't miss me. 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