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All right. Welcome to episode number 18 of the

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Dan Time podcast. I'm your host, Dan McCardle.

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How are you doing before I get started? You're

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doing fine. I'm going to go ahead and answer

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that. You are doing just fine. That's the answer

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that we have to give. No one seems to want the

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long form response anymore. Nobody's got the

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bandwidth for it. So you're doing okay. Even

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if you're having a rough morning, if New Year's

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Eve can't get here soon enough, so you can just

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get to a clean new year where you haven't procrastinated,

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or let somebody down, or screwed something up.

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Listen, I do hope that whatever you're going

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through, big or small, that you get some enjoyment

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Danny Pike's story last week. If you missed it,

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please Dial it back after this episode. You're

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gonna love hearing from this rising talent in

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the Chicago musical theater scene Today, I am

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ecstatic Truly, to introduce to you award -winning

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Boston blues musician, Danielle Moralia. Danielle

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won the 2021 New England Music Award for Blues

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Act of the Year and the 2019 Award for Female

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Performer of the Year. Lauren Daly of the Boston

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Globe wrote, Straddling the line where folk roots

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meets rock blues, Moralia has a voice that can

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go from a raspy come hither purr. to an Etta

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James -esque powerhouse belt, although she may

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be best known for her lead thumb, a heavy thumping

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strike on her Gibson that's backdrop percussion

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in itself. As a lyricist, Danielle will satirize

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societal issues and she's not afraid to call

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out personas, people that all of us know too

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well. And she writes other songs that celebrate

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love and longing, just some really great stuff.

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Her most recent solo record, Bright Shining Stars,

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released by VizTone, debuted at number 15 on

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Billboard's Top US Blues Albums. It features

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11 tracks, including covers of Janis Joplin's

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Turtle Blues, Keb Moe's You Can Love Yourself,

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and two Bob Dylan cuts, Meet Me in the Morning,

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and you're gonna make me lonesome when you go.

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We dive into the music on Bright Shining Stars

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as well as cuts from her previous solo records,

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Glory Junkies, Box of Troubles, and her 2005

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debut, Nothing Romantic. Danielle also reveals

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later in the episode her favorite song that she's

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ever written. Now, she also fronts the full band,

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Danielle M. and the Glory Junkies. The music

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blends influences of some of Moralia's own musical

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heroes, The Rolling Stones, Prince, Joplin. She's

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joined by bandmates, Lawrence Scudder, Eric White,

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Jim Larkin, and Chris Anzalone. Nate Dow of AsHeardHere

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.com writes, Danielle Moralia is like a musical

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butterfly who's been granted unlimited Creative

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Metamorphosis. You're going to love this conversation

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and getting to know Danielle. Be sure to visit

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danielm .com for all updates and links to her

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various social media pages. Find her albums and

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songs wherever you download music, get a playlist

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going. I could say more, but you know me, I got

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to cut it off somewhere. So let's get to it.

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I know you're ready. Folks, it is. Danielle Moralia

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time. All right. Well, it is a really, I say

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this a lot, special treat. I'm trying to move

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the word treat out of the way, but it's a real

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pleasure to be talking to the one, the only Danielle

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Moralia today. Danielle, first of all, thanks

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for making time to do this. Thanks for having

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me. I know you've been busy out there performing

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with your band, The Glory Junkies, and doing

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solo performances. I'm sure you're always writing.

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What's the latest? If someone were to ask, what

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are you doing right now? What are you working

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on? Well, now I'm trying to write for another

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recording, but I have like a handful of songs

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and what happens is you start writing and you

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intend to write a certain way because you might

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want it to... You can't predict how you're going

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to write and what style you're going to... It

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just happens. what's happening now is I have

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a handful of songs that I don't necessarily think

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all fit on the same album. So I'm contemplating

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whether to just do some some singles or you know

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that's what these days a lot of people are releasing

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singles rather than full records you know because

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that's how people are taking things in so you

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know but I still like the idea of having a cohesive

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piece of art that that all goes together as well

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you know so that's what i'm sort of struggling

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with right now and well also just getting busier

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with with uh gigs again after uh you know after

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it feels like it's been it felt it feels like

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we lost like like a big chunk of time which we

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did in a way you know so now it's just kind of

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putting the pieces back together and figuring

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out where to go from there as far as all this

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goes when you released your last studio record,

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Bright Shining Stars. This was kind of in the

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middle of COVID where October, 2020. Yeah. And

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I guess you've been working on it pre -COVID

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and then during that time period. What was that

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like to just put an album out in those uncertain

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times and you're maybe not going to just rush

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out and perform live? How was that experience?

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It was both. It was kind of, you know, there

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are pros and cons to it because was lucky enough

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that I had finished all the recording It actually

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was already mixed and mastered by the time everything

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started shutting down So I was lucky enough that

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that was that it was pretty much ready to go

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So I didn't have to you know, put it on hold

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for a couple of years or anything like that.

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But um It was it was like so I put it out with

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this tone Label and they it was the first time

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I put something out where the right stuff happened

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with it as far as like just getting it out to

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all the people who would care or, you know, who

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would do something with it. So, you know, they

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got it to chart on Billboard the first week on

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the blues charts and, you know, they got it to

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all the different. you know blues radio stations

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you know all around internationally and nationally

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they got it you know got a lot of reviews and

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all that stuff so it was like all the stuff that

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i've always wanted to happen with with a recording

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but then i couldn't tour with it so you know

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i never got to really give it the attention i

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would have liked to so that you know that part

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of it kind of sucks that i couldn't i couldn't

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do anything with it except be like wow that's

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cool oh cool i got another review on that oh

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you know it's like a little nice you know thing

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like that so But the good thing was that while

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that in a time when it felt like everything was

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stagnant and like, you know, could have just

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kind of, you know, just gotten under the blankets

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and, you know, decided to just shut down for

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a year or two. Yes, but it was like that kind

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of gave me a little bit of a nice little ray

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of hope within that time that it was like, well,

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this is cool. At least like, I feel like it looks

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like I'm busy right now, even though I'm not.

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There's things happening while I'm just pretty

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much most of my time is being spent you know

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at home hooking and watching movies and figuring

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out what's next but yeah so it was that was that

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was a good thing that it came out at that time

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but at the same time I feel like it's never gotten

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you know a proper proper tour around it or anything

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like that so right now I'm like all right do

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I just pretend that it just came out and use

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the you know and when I when I travel and play

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gigs now do I just treat it like this is a new

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almost like it's a new release or do I just move

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on to the next thing you know so that's that's

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the conflict at the moment I think uh without

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sound and trite that it's a it's a great album

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and thank you for the release date being a few

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years ago like you said a lot of people haven't

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heard these songs yet you haven't been able to

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reach Well, you can never reach everybody, but

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you're paying homage to just some legends here

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and some people that have been very important

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and influential to you, Bob Dylan, Melvin London,

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Robert Johnson. I mean, these are songs that

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people still would be craving this type of music

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or these songs live. I guess while you're writing,

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you can maybe not feel rushed to just put out.

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I was going to ask about like what you were saying

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at the top of having a batch of songs and you're

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not sure if they all fit in one bucket for the

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same album. Things are kind of moving in the

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direction I'll agree with releasing singles versus

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the full -length albums. So are you starting

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to think well maybe I'll just focus on maybe

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the three or four best ones here and put out

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some singles and then maybe turn around and pop

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out an EP. Yeah, yeah, that might be the route

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that it goes. I guess it's like, I usually, when

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I put out releases, it usually has sort of a

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mix of everything that I've been doing over whatever

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the course of time is between albums. And it's

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a little bit of, I have like a little bit of

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a inner conflict of like, so I'm, this tone is

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a blues label, you know? So that's like who I've

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been working with them, I worked with them on

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this last album. I'd love to put something out

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with them next. Everything I'm writing is like

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not really blues right now Which it's like what

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you're it's like what the I don't know what it

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is It's something psychological in me that like

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I might my my creativity rebels against whatever

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is gonna be best for me in the moment Whatever

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is gonna actually work for me at the time is

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like the creatively Like I always just start

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naturally going in a different direction, which

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is you know, probably my biggest setback, but

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Yeah, so a lot of what I'm writing right now

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is like, it's more, it probably falls more into

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like a folk category, which I sort of straddle

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both the blues and the folk anyway, but, and

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just, and then like I wrote a rock song and I

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wrote, so it's like everything's all over the

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place, you know, which is fine. I prefer to have

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some variety, but at the same time I'm like,

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all right, so what do I do with this? You know,

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so that's. that's the challenge of that but yeah

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but in the meantime most of the shows that I

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do are either blues or folk based and so it's

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like I you know I have my band Glory Junkies

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that's like kind of almost like rootsy rock blues

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kind of a mix of things. I play with Peter Parcheck

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who is an incredible blues rock guitar player

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just I mean just virtuoso and we do a project

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together, which leans blues or blues rock. And,

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um, and so we kind of those, those songs work

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with, with that project. And then, you know,

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and then I do my solo thing, which is kind of

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a folk blues thing with some singer songwriter

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stuff in there. Yeah. I had in my notes that

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you've, I feel like you've always given yourself

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the freedom to sort of, um, go back and forth

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between folk and roots and blues, maybe some

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rock in the mix. and to not just stay in that

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one department. Yeah, I mean, it's all been an

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influence, all of it over time. It's like, you

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know, I've honestly always been since for as

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early as I can remember, you know, from my earliest

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memories, I've been a fan of various popular

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music in different genres, you know, and so it's

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all in there. It's all part of the influence.

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anything from, you know, when I was a kid, you

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know, I grew up in the 80s and it was like, it

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was like the R &B groups of the time. It was

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New Edition and Lisa Lisa and Cult Jam. And obviously

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Prince has been, you know, he's the whole other

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genre in himself, but I've been, you know, Prince

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is my favorite of all time, you know, and then

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it's like getting into, then I had my, you know,

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when I got started playing guitar, it was, it

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was like, mostly like glam metal of the time

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and that kind of stuff and then and then getting

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in then like what influenced that well classic

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rock is what led to that all right what's so

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then it was like classic rock and that was like

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to me that's kind of the golden period of popular

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music you know um the you know the stones are

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my favorite my other favorite band of all time

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jenis joplin hendrix all that stuff and then

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it's like all right what influenced that the

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blues that's when you get to the blues And it's

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like, ah, OK, this is the real stuff right here.

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So you dig deeper and deeper, and you keep finding

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what influenced what. It all leads to the blues.

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Oh, yeah. I can see where some of your primary

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influences have helped mold your style. And I

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encourage my listeners, obviously, to download

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Danielle's music, Bright Shining Stars. These

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are just some of the solo records, Glory Junkies

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from 2015, Box of Troubles and Nothing Romantic,

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the debut, but also go to her website or go on

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YouTube because you're not really going to get

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the full picture until you see Danielle live.

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And what I was getting at here is I really enjoy

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the percussion that you build into your one player

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sound, like the foot stomping and the way you

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strum the Gibson. And just that I'm not describing

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it well enough, but where you hit the strings

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and you're just going for that. that downbeat

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yeah are you uh i couldn't tell exactly but are

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you going no pick or do you do a hybrid just

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use a thumb that's i mostly play with no pick

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um there's like one or two songs they use a thumb

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pick for but it's pretty much that sound is pretty

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much just fingers on strings fingers to strings

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directly and um you know people do it all different

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ways you listen to to mississippi john hurt or

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bigville brunzey or or some of the later guys,

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you know, Leo Kotke or, you know, these, everybody

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kind of has, if you watch them play, everybody

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has a different technique and they all have a

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different feel. Chris Smither is a, you know,

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contemporary, more contemporary guy or Kev Mo,

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like those guys, everybody has, they all have

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a different approach, you know? And honestly,

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it's not even just about approach so much as

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like what's in the soul and how it's coming out.

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You know, so I, I, teach guitar as well and I

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always just say like when when people are like

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oh I want to learn how to play I want to learn

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how to pick like that you know I'm like well

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really it's like you can you start with technique

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but then it's like then you just find your own

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feel you know I I learned it by I honestly I

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learned it by not totally learning it so you

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know I was I heard somebody playing that style

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my actually my friend Michael Troy who's since

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passed away and he was amazing songwriter and

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just just a beautiful human being and I remember

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him telling me you got to listen to Mississippi

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John Hurt to get that style he was and he was

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more of a folk player and did it like sort of

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in the style of um like Dave Van Ronk or that

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like that so it's it's who was also influenced

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by Reverend Gary Davis and Mississippi John Hurt

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and the blues the blues players so that there

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was that sort of god I'm not like a folklorist

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who I have I don't have or I don't have like

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all the all the details in the years but I you

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know there was such a there's probably there's

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will inevitably be some expert folk scare of

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the 60s uh nerd out there who's gonna say you

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have it wrong or whatever but there was this

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blend of there was this huge influence that that

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that blues had on folk back in the 60s when all

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those guys were playing in the clubs in New York

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City and all that so Anyway, I'm getting off

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on a tangent. The point is, my good friend Michael

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Troy had said, because I said, how do you do

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that? How do you play like that? He said, just

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listen to Mississippi Jan Hurt and learn that

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stuff. And so I did that. I also took lessons

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from Jeff Bartley, who is a beautiful kicker,

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just absolutely great songwriter, kicker. He's

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someone to check out as well. And so I took some

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direct lessons with him. And then I also learned

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out of this transcription book. that Stefan Grossman

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put out of all the Mississippi, a bunch of Mississippi

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John Hurt tunes. So I would go to that book and

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I would learn, I would learn the stuff. And I

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honestly have like, I'm not a disciplined learner.

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So the truth is I would learn it, but then I'd

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be like, oh, I get like, I'd go off on like a

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tangent, like I'm probably doing in the conversation

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right now. And I'd go, oh. Oh, and then I'd start

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writing a song with something I pulled from one

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of those songs. And then it would turn into something

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else. And then I just started finding my own

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way to do it, just picking it a different way.

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I love funk and R &B and that kind of stuff too.

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Not that I think the way I play is anything like

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funk, but I like a back beat. So when I was picking,

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when I was using the thumb to kind of go back

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and forth, on you know the E string and the D

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string I would be I would like really dig into

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that D string and I started to get that started

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becoming my style like just like it's like a

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right almost like a slap bass or something it's

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like and so that became my thing so I'm like

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an aggressive player I'm not necessarily a finesse

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player like someone like Chris Mither is just

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it's so smooth you listen to him it's just it's

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all it's like oh it's like liquid it's beautiful

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And Mississippi John Hurt has a little bit of

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both going on in his playing. But anyway, and

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also just like the technique, whether you use

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all three of your fingers or just one or two,

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I use all three and then the thumb. But anyway,

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that's really getting into the weeds of it. Yeah,

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what I wanted to say, if people listen to the

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latest record or listen to the Glory Junkies

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full band album, make sure you pair it with the

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videos, because Daniel, you really have a unique

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style. It doesn't look like you're trying to

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be like somebody else. I mean, it really looks

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like you've carved out something that's all your

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own with, like you said, your influences in mind,

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but it's not just one. You're not trying to be

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just like Lucinda Williams or Janis Joplin. What

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usually comes first when you're writing? Do you

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have lyrics? in mind and then you pair it with

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what you've already been writing on guitar? It

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honestly just varies you know like sometimes

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I'm just sitting there playing something on guitar

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like I'll come up with a guitar piece and then

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I put lyrics to it sometimes I'm driving or doing

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something and a lyric comes to mind or an idea

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for a song comes to mind I usually just make

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like a voice memo of that and of course I have

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like thousands of voice memos of things that

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never became anything. Sometimes I'll go back

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and go, I'm like, I can write albums worth of

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songs with these as song prompts. If I had like

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a little more, if I wasn't, you know, if I was

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a little more disciplined, I would go back and

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be like, this is going to be my goal. I'm going

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to go to each of these voice memos and write

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a song based on, of course that doesn't happen,

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but yeah. I really like in your songs, in your

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lyrics, some of the social commentary. There's

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not really any places that you're afraid to go.

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Um, you touch on some Some subjects that are

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maybe a little sensitive in um, let me go back

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to it here glory junkies I really like this song

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There's I have an album called glory junkies

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and then I have an album with my band the glory

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junkies I think you're talking about the 2015

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one is the album called glory junkies If people

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wanted to find the band glory junkies, it's danielle

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m and the glory junkies. That's how you would

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look it up and that's Called all my heroes. I'm

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way off. This is actually from nothing romantic

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that jumped out at me It's you don't know nothing.

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We're at the bar talking to the Vietnam vet and

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then yeah, I love the twist and turn of that

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story and Thank you, and then that songwriting

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continues on the other albums, too. I Guess well

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that one. Yeah, I should probably say being at

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that age and your first album Did you have any

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you probably weren't were you hesitant about

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releasing anything or like? Oh, I should probably

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rewrite this line No, I think I was more at both

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then than I am even now. I kind of didn't care.

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I was like, you know, I got like, I don't know,

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I, you know, when you're younger, you're, you

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don't, you're like, you think you're right about

00:22:02.490 --> 00:22:05.109
everything. So, but that song is really about,

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you know, everybody's thinking they're right,

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but not, you know, it's, that was, that was inspired

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by a true thing that happened or like, it wasn't,

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you know, obviously you take liberties when writing

00:22:18.259 --> 00:22:20.579
the song. So it crafts into like something that's

00:22:20.579 --> 00:22:24.380
coherent and sounds like a story. But I used

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to play back then. So that came out in 2005.

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That's almost 20 years old. That's insane. But

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I can't believe it. So I was around that time.

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when I was playing tons of bars like that was

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my that was my main thing I was doing was and

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I never did like top 40 covers in bars but I

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did you know I did like some classic rock tunes

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and I'd throw originals in there I'd play bars

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where like for the most part the owners or whoever's

00:22:50.660 --> 00:22:52.099
booking it would let you just kind of do what

00:22:52.099 --> 00:22:54.099
you want or whatever so I could try out songs

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and it kind of helped me cut my teeth and get

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become a better player because I could try new

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stuff out when nobody was really listening and

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that was I actually overheard a conversation

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with a guy saying something about, he was like,

00:23:11.019 --> 00:23:12.640
he doesn't know what he's talking about. I was

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in Vietnam. I overheard a conversation about

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this. And so that stuck with me. And then at

00:23:20.940 --> 00:23:24.380
the time, you could have conversations with people

00:23:24.380 --> 00:23:30.500
you disagreed with politically. And it was a

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heated time politically. you know it was like

00:23:33.490 --> 00:23:36.309
the Iraq war and Bush and all that you know it

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was there was a lot going on and you know I mean

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I'm a singer -songwriter I'm you know I'm a left

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you know I lean left that's that's that's what

00:23:42.869 --> 00:23:47.950
we do for the most part but you could have a

00:23:47.950 --> 00:23:50.369
conversation with somebody who you know I wasn't

00:23:50.369 --> 00:23:53.329
like oh I hate your guts now because you're you

00:23:53.329 --> 00:23:55.589
know you support Bush I might be like you're

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I think you're wrong but you know whatever like

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yeah it wasn't it wasn't this like It was it

00:24:00.619 --> 00:24:02.700
didn't make or break you to the point where you

00:24:02.700 --> 00:24:05.359
were not going to be able to like and there wasn't

00:24:05.359 --> 00:24:07.680
social media So you that you'd actually be having

00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:10.640
these conversations face to face. It wasn't so

00:24:10.640 --> 00:24:12.799
ugly just yet I remember that the Bush carry

00:24:12.799 --> 00:24:14.880
election it was starting to get there But you

00:24:14.880 --> 00:24:17.400
like you said if you're out at a bar You could

00:24:17.400 --> 00:24:20.119
finish the conversation with the left -wing guy

00:24:20.119 --> 00:24:22.799
or the right -wing guy and get on with it But

00:24:22.799 --> 00:24:25.599
a little different now. Yeah, it wasn't so and

00:24:25.599 --> 00:24:29.980
it wasn't so cuckoo crazy like in both directions

00:24:29.980 --> 00:24:31.940
or whatever it was just it was like you could

00:24:31.940 --> 00:24:34.779
yeah you could have a conversation it was there's

00:24:34.779 --> 00:24:37.799
also something to even you know even now if you're

00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:39.680
like actually looking somebody in the eyes and

00:24:39.680 --> 00:24:42.220
you're talking with them you're not gonna start

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calling them horrible names like you would on

00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:47.160
when you're on social media when you're on facebook

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i went through a phase where i was i would i

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would argue with people on social media and now

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i just i do not i do not do it on on like facebook

00:24:55.400 --> 00:24:58.650
i've i only use it to promote shows and that's

00:24:58.650 --> 00:25:01.009
it pretty much you know and I probably don't

00:25:01.009 --> 00:25:03.470
come up in people's algorithms as much because

00:25:03.470 --> 00:25:07.089
I'm only saying hey I'm playing here but I don't

00:25:07.089 --> 00:25:09.849
yeah it's like I can't take it mentally and in

00:25:09.849 --> 00:25:12.329
my soul like I can't you know I'm not gonna post

00:25:12.329 --> 00:25:14.160
something and then have to sit here with a a

00:25:14.160 --> 00:25:16.380
pit in my stomach on what are people saying or

00:25:16.380 --> 00:25:18.400
what are they commenting? You know, it's not

00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:20.319
worth it because you're not changing anybody's

00:25:20.319 --> 00:25:22.859
mind. So yeah, anyway, everybody was right when

00:25:22.859 --> 00:25:25.339
we could talk. That was the point. I was going

00:25:25.339 --> 00:25:27.980
to say everybody listening here, if you're still

00:25:27.980 --> 00:25:32.539
jumping into the comment sections of hotbed topics

00:25:32.539 --> 00:25:36.759
on X, get out of there. It's not going to convince

00:25:36.759 --> 00:25:40.079
anybody. Spend your energy trying to convince

00:25:40.079 --> 00:25:42.160
your sister, your brother, your best friend.

00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:46.470
Yeah, not. Waste. Yeah. You're jumping into a

00:25:46.470 --> 00:25:48.890
dumpster, you know? Yeah. And it's, and you're

00:25:48.890 --> 00:25:50.890
just, you're going to come out feeling gross.

00:25:51.009 --> 00:25:53.210
It's just the way it is. It's unfortunate because

00:25:53.210 --> 00:25:56.789
you'd like for it to be a place to have actual

00:25:56.789 --> 00:25:59.329
good, like good discourse, but it's like, it's

00:25:59.329 --> 00:26:02.849
just gone off the deep end. It's really. Oof.

00:26:03.250 --> 00:26:05.650
Yeah. Now the title track, I guess you call it

00:26:05.650 --> 00:26:10.319
on Glory Junkies. glory junkie I you had me rolling

00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:13.960
on this one I'm like I'm a few years late hearing

00:26:13.960 --> 00:26:17.140
it because I know this was released of 2015 but

00:26:17.140 --> 00:26:20.140
still relevant today I don't have the lyrics

00:26:20.140 --> 00:26:23.160
in front of me but it's and you must have been

00:26:23.160 --> 00:26:25.400
cracking up when and when the full chorus came

00:26:25.400 --> 00:26:32.180
to you of look at you and then I know you do

00:26:32.180 --> 00:26:37.000
or what how does it go Look at you, look at you.

00:26:37.259 --> 00:26:39.039
When you finally put it together, you must have

00:26:39.039 --> 00:26:42.700
been, uh, chuckling a little bit. Yeah, that,

00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:44.599
that, I think that one happened pretty quickly.

00:26:44.680 --> 00:26:46.660
I, you know, it was, and that, that ended up

00:26:46.660 --> 00:26:49.500
being like the, obviously the, the title track.

00:26:49.500 --> 00:26:51.039
And then it became the name of the band. Cause

00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:52.640
I was like, that's actually a good name for Ben.

00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:56.180
Um, but the, yeah, that was, you know, that,

00:26:56.420 --> 00:26:59.279
that album came out when social media was becoming

00:26:59.279 --> 00:27:01.890
a big, when it was just starting to. grow and

00:27:01.890 --> 00:27:04.009
people are starting to be on there all the time

00:27:04.009 --> 00:27:07.650
and It's funny. It's like when you are a performer

00:27:07.650 --> 00:27:10.190
you are a glory junkie, you know, that's why

00:27:10.190 --> 00:27:13.589
you Yeah, if we didn't want people to watch and

00:27:13.589 --> 00:27:16.109
listen to us do this We wouldn't you know, we

00:27:16.109 --> 00:27:18.410
would just play at home and and just write for

00:27:18.410 --> 00:27:20.269
ourselves that we would you know But we do feel

00:27:20.269 --> 00:27:22.150
like we want that energy back and we want that

00:27:22.150 --> 00:27:24.190
feedback performing is it's like its own thing

00:27:24.190 --> 00:27:26.890
You know, there's the the healthy ego. That's

00:27:26.890 --> 00:27:32.789
a real thing You have to have some in order to

00:27:32.789 --> 00:27:35.789
even want to perform and whether you could argue

00:27:35.789 --> 00:27:38.490
whether that's a healthy thing or it's gross

00:27:38.490 --> 00:27:46.710
or whatever. But with social media, it's become

00:27:46.710 --> 00:27:49.230
an epidemic where it's pretty much how, it's

00:27:49.230 --> 00:27:52.049
like everybody needs that attention because you've

00:27:52.049 --> 00:27:53.950
got a little taste of it, whether it could just

00:27:53.950 --> 00:27:56.839
be that. you know it doesn't matter if you're

00:27:56.839 --> 00:27:58.740
a performer or not you might just be like I want

00:27:58.740 --> 00:28:01.240
attention for this this funny thing I thought

00:28:01.240 --> 00:28:03.940
of or I want this so everybody does it now it's

00:28:03.940 --> 00:28:05.740
not just like oh I want to do this because I

00:28:05.740 --> 00:28:07.579
want to be a performer I want to do this or that

00:28:07.579 --> 00:28:10.519
so it's really become just the way of the world

00:28:10.519 --> 00:28:13.680
from that point and since then where we're just

00:28:13.680 --> 00:28:15.940
like I need you to give me attention it might

00:28:15.940 --> 00:28:22.099
just be like I'm feeling sad today please post

00:28:22.099 --> 00:28:24.440
pictures of your cat you know whatever it is

00:28:24.440 --> 00:28:28.359
um you know cheer me up and you know i mean really

00:28:28.359 --> 00:28:30.059
everybody's we're just trying to get by we're

00:28:30.059 --> 00:28:32.220
just trying to figure out everybody's just doing

00:28:32.220 --> 00:28:34.740
their best so you know it's not a criticism of

00:28:34.740 --> 00:28:38.000
that i think it's just for some people that is

00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:41.220
um that is a way to to feel better is like i'm

00:28:41.220 --> 00:28:43.640
just going to post this and hopefully get some

00:28:43.640 --> 00:28:47.660
affirmation and but it's um it has become so

00:28:47.660 --> 00:28:51.079
that song was like in a way i was Thinking about

00:28:51.079 --> 00:28:53.500
all that just the selfies and the look at you

00:28:53.500 --> 00:28:56.099
look at you or just the idea of being around

00:28:56.099 --> 00:28:59.000
somebody Who had who sets all the air out of

00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:03.099
the room, you know, yes, there's we're Dan Again,

00:29:03.140 --> 00:29:05.299
I have some lyrics written down for other songs

00:29:05.299 --> 00:29:09.500
but Dancing in your rain you're I mean you're

00:29:09.500 --> 00:29:17.740
working up such a sweat telling us It's been

00:29:17.740 --> 00:29:19.779
a while since I played that one, because I forgot

00:29:19.779 --> 00:29:21.960
how to play it. But it's something like you're

00:29:21.960 --> 00:29:23.799
working up a sweat with dancing in your rain,

00:29:23.940 --> 00:29:26.579
something like that. Yeah. I just heard that.

00:29:26.859 --> 00:29:30.019
And everybody knows somebody in their life who's

00:29:30.019 --> 00:29:31.980
still there or used to be there who's that way.

00:29:32.380 --> 00:29:34.519
Where, hey, let's go out for drinks. Let's go

00:29:34.519 --> 00:29:36.279
out for dinner. Great. I'll see you at 7. And

00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:39.460
you go, and you sit, and you just sit and say,

00:29:39.799 --> 00:29:46.269
uh -huh. Uh -huh. Yep. Yep. And then. Oh, it

00:29:46.269 --> 00:29:48.470
was so great to see you and you give each other

00:29:48.470 --> 00:29:51.309
a hug and you go on your way and you think, well.

00:29:53.269 --> 00:29:56.569
Yeah, but anyway, and there's another track on

00:29:56.569 --> 00:29:58.710
there I want to move along to, but he did the

00:29:58.710 --> 00:30:02.490
win. I just well, I'm a huge baseball fan, but

00:30:02.490 --> 00:30:06.470
I like the concept in general of pointing out

00:30:06.470 --> 00:30:10.170
how so many times in life you can be so close

00:30:10.170 --> 00:30:13.410
to the end of the rainbow or to that promotion

00:30:13.410 --> 00:30:15.789
that you're looking for. or whatever it is, you

00:30:15.789 --> 00:30:18.849
can almost touch it and then it snatched away

00:30:18.849 --> 00:30:22.890
from you. Yeah. Was that a true story about your

00:30:22.890 --> 00:30:27.109
dad going through that experience? Yeah. Yeah.

00:30:27.369 --> 00:30:29.470
I mean, he, he, yeah, he was a waiter his whole

00:30:29.470 --> 00:30:33.170
life. And, um, you know, he just, he, I mean,

00:30:33.230 --> 00:30:35.089
now he's retired, he's happy, you know, but,

00:30:35.089 --> 00:30:37.490
but, uh, but he always like, would just talk

00:30:37.490 --> 00:30:39.589
about how much he hated the job. And then, you

00:30:39.589 --> 00:30:42.539
know, he just never got a chance to really. Try

00:30:42.539 --> 00:30:44.779
something else and I think it was just more like

00:30:44.779 --> 00:30:48.000
a fear or whatever it was, you know, so Yeah,

00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:50.180
I mean I think that happens to a lot of people

00:30:50.180 --> 00:30:52.819
where they just end up stuck in a job They hate

00:30:52.819 --> 00:30:56.339
forever or whatever it is. So yeah, and then

00:30:56.339 --> 00:30:58.259
just the whole Bill Buckner thing I just think

00:30:58.259 --> 00:31:01.579
I always thought that was fascinating that someone

00:31:01.579 --> 00:31:06.309
could become sort of a you know considered, you

00:31:06.309 --> 00:31:08.329
know, a villain of an area just because of one

00:31:08.329 --> 00:31:10.210
mistake that they made or whatever, you know?

00:31:10.369 --> 00:31:12.970
And then that redemption of him throwing out

00:31:12.970 --> 00:31:15.789
the first pitch after the Sox had actually won.

00:31:16.250 --> 00:31:19.690
I mean, the sports, I'm not really into sports,

00:31:20.589 --> 00:31:23.529
but I think, I hate when people tell me that

00:31:23.529 --> 00:31:25.710
a song was based off of a prompt, because to

00:31:25.710 --> 00:31:29.880
me, sometimes that takes the... It makes it sound

00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:31.680
like it was mechanical, but it really wasn't,

00:31:32.259 --> 00:31:34.539
but somebody said, write a song about your favorite

00:31:34.539 --> 00:31:37.619
sports hero. And I said, like, I'm not a sports

00:31:37.619 --> 00:31:39.359
fan, but I was like, Bill Buckner. He's like,

00:31:39.359 --> 00:31:42.420
he's like the, he was considered sort of the

00:31:42.420 --> 00:31:45.000
loser of the Boston area for many years, you

00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:48.420
know, or like the one who, and I find that fascinating.

00:31:48.460 --> 00:31:50.680
And for that reason, he's like kind of my favorite.

00:31:51.700 --> 00:31:55.019
And, and so I, I, cause I do remember when that

00:31:55.019 --> 00:31:58.450
happened. when I was a kid and it was like so

00:31:58.450 --> 00:32:00.349
you know I don't you know I don't know how much

00:32:00.349 --> 00:32:03.750
you know about the just Boston sports in general

00:32:03.750 --> 00:32:07.390
but the fans here are rabid they're just like

00:32:07.390 --> 00:32:09.069
you know you could be at a you could be at the

00:32:09.069 --> 00:32:11.069
theater and somebody's yelling Yankee suck here

00:32:11.069 --> 00:32:17.569
you know it's just you know right there because

00:32:17.569 --> 00:32:20.130
I'm not do not like the Yankees so when they

00:32:20.130 --> 00:32:21.890
were going to head to head with the Red Sox in

00:32:21.890 --> 00:32:24.569
the early 2000s I was always rooting for the

00:32:24.569 --> 00:32:27.599
Red Sox and then they finally pulled it off in

00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:32.859
whatever, 2004. That was really exciting. There's

00:32:32.859 --> 00:32:35.700
a line, I think this ties in a little bit, kind

00:32:35.700 --> 00:32:38.299
of like what you're describing with your dad

00:32:38.299 --> 00:32:41.119
or anybody that's in a situation that they're

00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:44.700
not really happy about and they're dreaming of

00:32:44.700 --> 00:32:47.519
a way out. You kind of have to get out of that

00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:50.660
idea phase or that daydream phase and write it

00:32:50.660 --> 00:32:52.660
down. But there was an old interview, I tried

00:32:52.660 --> 00:32:55.460
to do some research here, but you said, If you're

00:32:55.460 --> 00:32:58.380
unhappy in a situation change that situation

00:32:58.380 --> 00:33:00.759
do something else if there's any way possible

00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:04.400
don't Basically don't waste your life Being miserable.

00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:07.759
It's yeah often easier said than done. Some people

00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:11.259
have some some more resources at their disposal

00:33:11.259 --> 00:33:14.680
for sure, they know how to use the internet versus

00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:18.059
there's a lot of people that are Underserved

00:33:18.059 --> 00:33:21.140
and underprivileged or however you describe it

00:33:21.140 --> 00:33:23.900
that or they just got out of jail and they just

00:33:23.900 --> 00:33:27.240
don't they can't go quickly get on Indeed and

00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:30.779
fill out a resume and start doing stuff that

00:33:30.779 --> 00:33:35.539
a lot of us do. Yeah. But there are, I do believe

00:33:35.539 --> 00:33:37.519
in getting out a piece of paper or getting at

00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:39.839
your phone and taking notes and like put it in

00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:42.319
writing of things that you want to accomplish.

00:33:43.099 --> 00:33:46.359
Yeah, for sure. And keep looking. And the truth

00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:48.660
is like whatever, I think I know the interview

00:33:48.660 --> 00:33:50.839
type, it was probably from, I was probably, you

00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:53.480
know, 22 or something when I, when I was saying,

00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:55.619
you know, I probably was coming from a privileged

00:33:55.619 --> 00:33:57.160
place thinking like, well, if you don't like

00:33:57.160 --> 00:33:59.960
it, just change it, man. I think I was in that

00:33:59.960 --> 00:34:02.559
space at the time, you know, when you don't know,

00:34:02.700 --> 00:34:04.200
you don't know when you're young, you know, you're

00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:05.859
just like, what do you mean just do this? It's

00:34:05.859 --> 00:34:09.059
easy, you know, like, so I like, you know, I

00:34:09.059 --> 00:34:11.760
understand now that that's not the easiest thing

00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:13.780
for everybody, whether it's that, you know, you

00:34:13.780 --> 00:34:15.260
don't have the financial means, or it's just

00:34:15.260 --> 00:34:18.869
some people just simply don't have. It's just

00:34:18.869 --> 00:34:20.610
there's something in them that just is like a

00:34:20.610 --> 00:34:23.489
deep fear and you just don't have that whatever

00:34:23.489 --> 00:34:26.909
the tool is to do it. I mean, you know, I don't

00:34:26.909 --> 00:34:28.570
have the tool to do everything that the tools

00:34:28.570 --> 00:34:30.170
to do everything that I want to do the mental

00:34:30.170 --> 00:34:33.550
tools, you know, yes. So sometimes, you know,

00:34:33.550 --> 00:34:36.650
I I'm guilty of it to just be like, well, let's

00:34:36.650 --> 00:34:41.349
just especially since the pandemic, I think it

00:34:41.349 --> 00:34:44.130
really made everybody slow down by force. And

00:34:44.130 --> 00:34:46.710
a lot of people decided, oh, I don't need to

00:34:46.710 --> 00:34:49.400
be working as hard as I was before, for better

00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:52.039
or for worse. It kind of got a lot of people

00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:55.239
out of that frenetic pace day to day. It just

00:34:55.239 --> 00:34:58.039
kind of slowed all of your processes down. You

00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:00.400
don't have to rush to get out of the house anymore

00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:03.579
to catch the train or just get on the highway

00:35:03.579 --> 00:35:07.639
and just... Yeah. just hurry to get to the office

00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:09.980
or whatever you got to be just even just how

00:35:09.980 --> 00:35:12.239
many people are working from home now even that

00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:14.059
alone it's like oh we don't have to we could

00:35:14.059 --> 00:35:16.039
do this from home we have the needs to do this

00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:20.280
from home now you know right daniel there was

00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:23.340
uh i want to touch every album maybe i will but

00:35:23.340 --> 00:35:25.760
box of troubles a couple songs here and then

00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:28.099
you continue to do this um in some other songs

00:35:28.099 --> 00:35:32.079
as well where i feel like you're trying to inspire

00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:34.690
whoever's listening Mean they kind of have to

00:35:34.690 --> 00:35:37.110
read into it a little bit, but the song home

00:35:37.110 --> 00:35:39.030
on box of troubles I don't know if you perform

00:35:39.030 --> 00:35:42.030
this live as much I actually just started playing

00:35:42.030 --> 00:35:45.309
that live again a lot recently, but I had put

00:35:45.309 --> 00:35:47.989
it down for a while There's a lyric here. Some

00:35:47.989 --> 00:35:50.789
devils get their wings some angels fall the rest

00:35:50.789 --> 00:35:54.650
of us roam. I Might be off I read into that that

00:35:54.650 --> 00:35:57.190
life is not always fair and you can't look at

00:35:57.190 --> 00:35:59.150
every one situation Say oh look at that guy.

00:35:59.150 --> 00:36:01.349
It looks like nothing ever happens to him. Look

00:36:01.349 --> 00:36:06.500
at her. She's Got a new car a nice purse. What's

00:36:06.500 --> 00:36:10.519
everything must be going great Yeah Is that and

00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:13.300
then also glimmer of gold which you kind of mentioned

00:36:13.300 --> 00:36:16.239
the title track there You rise from the rubble

00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:18.639
in your box of troubles There's always a glimmer

00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:21.719
of gold and that's to me that says press on just

00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:27.099
keep going Mm -hmm. Mm -hmm. Yeah that one I

00:36:27.099 --> 00:36:32.199
that was like that was inspired by a winter solstice

00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:36.380
card that a friend sent me. So it sounds a little

00:36:36.380 --> 00:36:40.119
like goofy to say that, but she, a good friend

00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:42.420
of mine, Nancy Scott, who's incredibly thoughtful

00:36:42.420 --> 00:36:45.659
and just sends really sweet gifts on birthdays.

00:36:45.699 --> 00:36:48.079
And it's always thinking of everybody. And anyway,

00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:50.239
she sent a winter solstice card and the winter

00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:52.559
solstice card explained what winter solstice

00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:54.739
was, which I never, I didn't know up until that

00:36:54.739 --> 00:36:57.139
point that it's actually the shortest day of

00:36:57.139 --> 00:36:59.420
the year. And then the days get longer after

00:36:59.420 --> 00:37:03.300
that. So you're in the dead of winter and it's

00:37:03.300 --> 00:37:07.079
the coldest it can be, you know, usually, maybe

00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:10.719
not as much now, but. Not a lot of daylight.

00:37:11.639 --> 00:37:13.739
Yeah. Yeah. It's just the dark. It's the darkest

00:37:13.739 --> 00:37:17.940
time. It's the end. But now, you know, the one

00:37:17.940 --> 00:37:19.739
thing you can keep in mind is that now the days

00:37:19.739 --> 00:37:22.119
are going to start getting longer. So it's like,

00:37:22.300 --> 00:37:24.820
it's that glimmer, glimmer of gold, that kind

00:37:24.820 --> 00:37:27.380
of that little bray of hope when you're in your

00:37:27.380 --> 00:37:30.320
darkest time. So that was. That's what inspired

00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:33.420
that. And then the - Oh, go ahead. Yeah, go ahead,

00:37:33.500 --> 00:37:36.559
sorry. No, you go. I was going ahead to Bright

00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:38.800
Shining Stars. I have a couple points on this

00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:40.679
one, but did you have something you want to say

00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:43.360
on home? Well, let me say about Bright Shining

00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:45.860
Stars. My husband wrote that song. I knew there

00:37:45.860 --> 00:37:49.139
was a story here. Like you had - Yeah. He was

00:37:49.139 --> 00:37:51.940
going through something and I don't want to speak

00:37:51.940 --> 00:37:54.440
out of turn here, but it was a difficult time

00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:56.679
period and you were trying to hide the project

00:37:56.679 --> 00:38:00.199
from him and not - Yeah. Yeah. um no there's

00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:04.659
no there's uh i could talk about it so well my

00:38:04.659 --> 00:38:08.539
husband had he had a stroke in 2019 okay he's

00:38:08.539 --> 00:38:10.420
he's doing well now he's knocking on the wood

00:38:10.420 --> 00:38:13.760
and all that right now but uh um he's doing he's

00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:16.699
doing well but at the time it was a really grueling

00:38:16.699 --> 00:38:19.940
thing he was in a coma for nine days because

00:38:19.940 --> 00:38:22.340
they he got pneumonia well like when they put

00:38:22.340 --> 00:38:24.320
him when they when they intubated him they gave

00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:26.559
him staph infection and he had they so he had

00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:28.079
pneumonia and they were they had to keep him

00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:31.909
under for while the lungs cleared up. It was

00:38:31.909 --> 00:38:37.409
the most terrible time ever. And I feel really

00:38:37.409 --> 00:38:46.969
lucky that he's here. But in the meantime, he

00:38:46.969 --> 00:38:49.769
was not far from his 50th birthday at that point.

00:38:51.110 --> 00:38:55.090
So the next year after that happened, that was

00:38:55.090 --> 00:38:58.510
like early 2019, he was in the healing. process

00:38:58.510 --> 00:39:01.409
and a fan of his band, his band is the Baker

00:39:01.409 --> 00:39:05.369
Thomas band, a friend and fan of his band decided

00:39:05.369 --> 00:39:09.150
to put together a surprise compilation for his

00:39:09.150 --> 00:39:11.989
birthday, for his 50th birthday of a bunch of

00:39:11.989 --> 00:39:15.670
people in the music scene here covering his songs.

00:39:16.610 --> 00:39:18.630
And so my husband is a pillar of the scene here.

00:39:19.469 --> 00:39:22.349
He has been, we met because he was hosting an

00:39:22.349 --> 00:39:26.519
open mic back in late 90s, 98. and he's always

00:39:26.519 --> 00:39:29.719
he's always been he's a great musician great

00:39:29.719 --> 00:39:32.719
songwriter great bass player but also has always

00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:35.199
been somebody who facilitates the community in

00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:38.780
the scene around here and for the last almost

00:39:38.780 --> 00:39:41.400
10 years he's been running a music series out

00:39:41.400 --> 00:39:43.960
of the burren in davis square in somerville mass

00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:48.699
anyway so he's beloved in the scene here so a

00:39:48.699 --> 00:39:52.000
bunch of musicians did covers of his songs and

00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:53.980
we made a compilation and obviously I was going

00:39:53.980 --> 00:39:56.800
to do one so I had to tell him I had to tell

00:39:56.800 --> 00:39:58.619
him why I was going into the studio it was a

00:39:58.619 --> 00:40:02.539
surprise so I had so I said oh I'm going over

00:40:02.539 --> 00:40:06.000
to Dave Westner's Dave who recorded it and I'm

00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:08.280
gonna I'm thinking about maybe making like an

00:40:08.280 --> 00:40:11.139
acoustic album of just a bunch of mostly covers

00:40:11.139 --> 00:40:12.840
I've been doing over the years which is something

00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:15.420
he had suggested to me a while before that like

00:40:15.420 --> 00:40:17.079
you should just you should do a covers album

00:40:17.079 --> 00:40:19.579
of life so i was like i think i'm gonna go and

00:40:19.579 --> 00:40:22.840
and so i had to like i had to make it true because

00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:27.940
i'm a bad liar so basically i went in and recorded

00:40:27.940 --> 00:40:30.360
a song and then i recorded a bunch of other songs

00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:32.260
and then i made it a project and we made it an

00:40:32.260 --> 00:40:36.000
album but um and i didn't know i was gonna put

00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:39.300
bright shining stars on it at the time But then

00:40:39.300 --> 00:40:40.699
when the album was starting to come together,

00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:42.800
I'm like, I'm gonna put this on it and it's gonna

00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:46.519
be the title track. Because I also felt like

00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:49.860
I needed the, I know that, you know, you've clearly

00:40:49.860 --> 00:40:51.840
done a lot of research and I really appreciate

00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:53.619
it. So, you know, but you could, you might be

00:40:53.619 --> 00:40:56.119
able to see a pattern in like the albums that

00:40:56.119 --> 00:40:58.239
have mostly like a little bit of a negative twist

00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:01.030
to the title, you know, nothing romantic. glimmer

00:41:01.030 --> 00:41:02.650
of gold is that's not the name of that album

00:41:02.650 --> 00:41:05.190
right i think it's box of troubles and box of

00:41:05.190 --> 00:41:08.449
troubles yeah yeah they all have like a little

00:41:08.449 --> 00:41:10.829
bit of a they're all a little cynical you know

00:41:10.829 --> 00:41:12.489
i mean everything has a little bit of a cynicism

00:41:12.489 --> 00:41:14.030
to them and i'm like this one's gonna be called

00:41:14.030 --> 00:41:17.269
bright shining stars freaking bright shining

00:41:17.269 --> 00:41:19.170
this is gonna be like i'm gonna call this something

00:41:19.170 --> 00:41:21.710
really positive because i felt like this is i

00:41:21.710 --> 00:41:24.409
need this right now i need positivity i think

00:41:24.409 --> 00:41:27.960
the world needs positivity right now and so it

00:41:27.960 --> 00:41:29.840
was just like it just it clicked it was like

00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:31.460
this is what we're gonna call it bright shining

00:41:31.460 --> 00:41:34.079
stars but it's a beautiful song and and anyway

00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:36.440
i you had a question about the song itself and

00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:38.420
i want to off on another tangent i hope i'm not

00:41:38.420 --> 00:41:42.420
over oh no no this is quite all right i was gonna

00:41:42.420 --> 00:41:45.519
mention uh first the the track that you wrote

00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:48.480
you can love yourself oh i didn't write that

00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:50.800
that's the kev moe tune oh i wish i wrote that

00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:54.340
i'm sorry that's kev i love that tune yeah yeah

00:41:54.340 --> 00:41:57.440
i like the theme there think it's important again

00:41:57.440 --> 00:42:00.719
me speaking to the listeners that Because you

00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:03.760
know Danielle Whoever you are if you're someone's

00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:07.300
a fan of your music if they're anybody out there

00:42:07.300 --> 00:42:11.719
me included you might feel like You just made

00:42:11.719 --> 00:42:13.440
your best friend mad about something and you

00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:15.179
wish you could take it back you feel like you

00:42:15.179 --> 00:42:17.619
screwed up at work last week and you got to figure

00:42:17.619 --> 00:42:21.139
out a way out of it or you did something really

00:42:21.139 --> 00:42:26.980
bad and Everyone's turned their back on you Whatever,

00:42:26.980 --> 00:42:31.000
but there's still a chance for It's it's hard

00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:33.599
to get there if you're feeling that low to love

00:42:33.599 --> 00:42:36.679
yourself, but folks it does start I think it

00:42:36.679 --> 00:42:40.099
does start with you if you treat yourself well

00:42:40.099 --> 00:42:43.599
try to Dress yourself what that was one thing

00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:46.079
about ten or twelve or more years ago I was going

00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:48.079
to a rough period of time and the first thing

00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:51.059
that I thought to do was All right. I'm gonna

00:42:51.059 --> 00:42:54.750
overdress every day I've just got to do it because

00:42:54.750 --> 00:42:56.789
I want to look in the mirror and I'm shaving

00:42:56.789 --> 00:42:59.130
and I'm, you know, buttoning the shirt. I'm like,

00:42:59.210 --> 00:43:02.110
I'm just going to dress, even dress here than

00:43:02.110 --> 00:43:06.190
I usually do so I can feel like at least what

00:43:06.190 --> 00:43:08.329
was it? Chris Cornell. I mean, it's one of his

00:43:08.329 --> 00:43:10.909
big songs with Soundgarden feeling Minnesota

00:43:10.909 --> 00:43:15.650
or looking California feeling Minnesota and outshined.

00:43:16.010 --> 00:43:18.599
That's kind of how it was. Start with something

00:43:18.599 --> 00:43:20.920
small if you're going through a period like that

00:43:20.920 --> 00:43:23.800
where you're just beating yourself up and you've

00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:25.639
Feel like that's a great. I love that. I love

00:43:25.639 --> 00:43:28.420
that. Did it work? Did it? Did you feel like

00:43:28.420 --> 00:43:30.400
that helped? Yeah, that helped me a little by

00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:32.280
little it kind of helped me get through the days

00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:35.360
Yeah, but yeah if you start with something small

00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:38.159
because it can just you can just feel like Nothing,

00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:40.019
you know, you're just you're just down on the

00:43:40.019 --> 00:43:42.219
ground or like like I think the lyric says like

00:43:42.219 --> 00:43:45.619
dust on an empty shelf you can get to some low

00:43:45.619 --> 00:43:48.769
places, but Yeah. I love that he made it like

00:43:48.769 --> 00:43:50.829
it has humor in it too. And it's sort of got

00:43:50.829 --> 00:43:52.809
a little bit of double entendre and it's just,

00:43:53.050 --> 00:43:54.650
and he, when you, you know, he's such a great

00:43:54.650 --> 00:43:57.329
performer too. Uh, Kevin was one of my favorites.

00:43:57.869 --> 00:44:00.510
He's such a great live performer and it's just

00:44:00.510 --> 00:44:02.869
got this kind of good, you know, it's just got

00:44:02.869 --> 00:44:06.730
a fun spirit to it. I love that tune. Yeah. But

00:44:06.730 --> 00:44:09.190
the song bright shining stars, the title track,

00:44:09.889 --> 00:44:11.530
your husband wrote the lyrics. Is that right?

00:44:12.230 --> 00:44:16.099
Yeah. Yeah. the whole thing, but it's like, the

00:44:16.099 --> 00:44:19.400
world needs goodness to be grown. How true is

00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:21.920
that today? Going back to the early part of our

00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:25.440
conversation here, the world needs goodness to

00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:28.000
be grown. Let's give a shining star a new home.

00:44:28.840 --> 00:44:31.079
I also like how he comes out at the start here.

00:44:31.400 --> 00:44:34.219
A lot of people can relate to this. Even though

00:44:34.219 --> 00:44:38.559
I never offered up much of a plan, you basically

00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:40.739
still took my hand and decided to do this with

00:44:40.739 --> 00:44:47.079
me. Just yeah, it's a beautiful song. Yeah, he's

00:44:47.079 --> 00:44:49.619
he's uh, yeah, he he's really he's a great writer

00:44:49.619 --> 00:44:52.500
but and he writes these like amazing arrangements

00:44:52.500 --> 00:44:56.139
and and uh, I Would cover more of his songs if

00:44:56.139 --> 00:44:59.400
I if I was better at memorizing chord progressions

00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:04.380
Epic tunes with like these amazing chord progressions

00:45:04.380 --> 00:45:06.539
even that one. I'm like, I still need a cheat

00:45:06.539 --> 00:45:10.260
sheet if I play that one Some of these songs

00:45:10.260 --> 00:45:13.500
you've got You've got other players in the mix.

00:45:13.500 --> 00:45:16.780
There's some harmonica I don't know all the musicians

00:45:16.780 --> 00:45:19.480
on on every track, but anybody you want to recognize

00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:22.219
on yeah, it's essentially I mean It's mostly

00:45:22.219 --> 00:45:24.920
solo and then I just got a little help from from

00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:27.239
some friends like, you know I think Lawrence

00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:29.400
my friend Lawrence gutter and bandmate was my

00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:33.019
glory junkies bandmate and my friend and I Collaborated

00:45:33.019 --> 00:45:35.480
for years. We played together for many years

00:45:35.940 --> 00:45:39.440
He played viola on a couple of tracks Peter part

00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:41.480
check who was another collaborator of mine was

00:45:41.480 --> 00:45:43.559
talking about earlier who I do a project with

00:45:43.559 --> 00:45:47.519
he's he's on a couple of tracks and then and

00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:51.099
then Rosie Rosenblatt, who's the he's his tone

00:45:51.099 --> 00:45:54.599
is his label So I had he's on the meet me in

00:45:54.599 --> 00:45:56.780
the morning track He's playing harmonica on that

00:45:56.780 --> 00:45:59.159
and so I had like a little bit of help I did

00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:01.559
a couple of I did like I think I did one of the

00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:03.780
leads myself which was on turtle blues and it's

00:46:03.780 --> 00:46:07.360
funny because In some of the reviews, people

00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:10.420
are like, we really enjoyed Peter Parczyk's understated

00:46:10.420 --> 00:46:16.309
playing on Turtle Blue. I'm like, that's not

00:46:16.309 --> 00:46:18.690
his understated playing. That's my simplified

00:46:18.690 --> 00:46:25.969
play. But thank you. If you were able to mistake

00:46:25.969 --> 00:46:28.469
me even for a second for Peter Project, I am

00:46:28.469 --> 00:46:33.590
really, really happy. Just shows me perspective.

00:46:35.289 --> 00:46:37.289
Daniel, I noticed watching some of the videos,

00:46:37.449 --> 00:46:40.409
you've got an old beat up Gibson. Um, it looks

00:46:40.409 --> 00:46:42.469
like you have a few of them Do you take one or

00:46:42.469 --> 00:46:44.570
more out on the road with you when you go to

00:46:44.570 --> 00:46:47.809
perform? I always have two I always have one

00:46:47.809 --> 00:46:49.590
that's tuned to standard and one that's tuned

00:46:49.590 --> 00:46:54.489
to open d my lgo is the old like the 67 And it's

00:46:54.489 --> 00:46:56.809
that's the one that's like that's a magical guitar.

00:46:56.809 --> 00:47:00.489
I use that. I usually have it in open d So I

00:47:00.489 --> 00:47:03.630
use that for any slide tunes and that guitar

00:47:03.630 --> 00:47:06.369
I have whether I'm playing an electric gig or

00:47:06.369 --> 00:47:08.210
an acoustic gig, because it sounds beautiful

00:47:08.210 --> 00:47:10.789
just plugged in direct. It sounds really cool

00:47:10.789 --> 00:47:15.369
and badass through an amp, even with a band,

00:47:15.409 --> 00:47:18.269
you know. So that's like my versatile, you know,

00:47:18.389 --> 00:47:21.389
can do anything guitar. And then I play a, I

00:47:21.389 --> 00:47:24.769
have a new, I had my J -45 was my main Gibson

00:47:24.769 --> 00:47:27.719
guitar for years. And then it just, it got to

00:47:27.719 --> 00:47:30.239
where it was hurting my back. Such a big guitar.

00:47:30.619 --> 00:47:33.739
So I, uh, I have this double O that I use now

00:47:33.739 --> 00:47:36.500
for the standard tuning stuff. And I love it.

00:47:36.699 --> 00:47:39.800
And then I use, I use mostly a fender, a fender

00:47:39.800 --> 00:47:44.079
telecaster for my electric gigs. Well, and the

00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:46.500
glory junkies album that was released in 2017,

00:47:47.079 --> 00:47:49.239
all my heroes are ghosts. We haven't quite touched

00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:51.539
on this. Probably won't go too deep here, but

00:47:51.539 --> 00:47:53.840
that second track, all on fire. I love that.

00:47:54.280 --> 00:47:57.789
It kind of. Oh, thank you. It's an up tempo song.

00:47:58.590 --> 00:48:01.610
It's kind of like, oh, wow. When that one really

00:48:01.610 --> 00:48:03.929
kicks in, it's like, OK, here's some, you know,

00:48:03.949 --> 00:48:07.210
it really shows your versatility. How fun or

00:48:07.210 --> 00:48:09.110
how much fun is it going out there and playing

00:48:09.110 --> 00:48:11.230
with the guys? Do you have to get into a different

00:48:11.230 --> 00:48:14.190
mindset? Do you keep the same routines before

00:48:14.190 --> 00:48:18.010
those performances? It's different. It's like

00:48:18.010 --> 00:48:20.610
it's two very different things, because when

00:48:20.610 --> 00:48:23.250
you're playing solo, you're really it's about.

00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:25.260
it's always about connecting with the audience

00:48:25.260 --> 00:48:27.619
but even more so solo because it's you and them

00:48:27.619 --> 00:48:29.679
you know what i mean so there's a little bit

00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:31.599
i feel a little more of a connection with the

00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:33.980
audience when i'm playing solo because i have

00:48:33.980 --> 00:48:36.960
that like i say it's just it's like you with

00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:39.639
them whereas but with the band you've got that

00:48:39.639 --> 00:48:42.079
energy amongst each other so you're rocking together

00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:44.460
you're kind of doing you know and i love it so

00:48:44.460 --> 00:48:47.159
much but to me like that's i don't know i love

00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:49.139
playing solo because i just love playing acoustic

00:48:49.139 --> 00:48:51.809
and i love stomping and do I like I love getting

00:48:51.809 --> 00:48:54.090
in that zone that's probably my biggest comfort

00:48:54.090 --> 00:48:56.309
zone is the solo thing because I did that from

00:48:56.309 --> 00:48:59.090
three years before I had like a regular band

00:48:59.090 --> 00:49:02.789
but it's there's nothing like just having that

00:49:02.789 --> 00:49:04.949
collaboration with other people and also just

00:49:04.949 --> 00:49:07.070
to hang like to me it's just so what I missed

00:49:07.070 --> 00:49:10.050
the most during the pandemic was hanging out

00:49:10.050 --> 00:49:11.949
in the green room it wasn't even the actual playing

00:49:11.949 --> 00:49:15.949
I was like I missed my friends I missed like

00:49:15.949 --> 00:49:21.059
just getting to just you know just You just have

00:49:21.059 --> 00:49:24.760
this chemistry with your bandmates. They're like

00:49:24.760 --> 00:49:27.079
your siblings. You know what I mean? You're able

00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:31.199
to just kind of... All the banter. Yeah, exactly.

00:49:31.659 --> 00:49:34.340
Yeah. It's just something really cool about that.

00:49:34.940 --> 00:49:37.920
I missed it a lot when I didn't have that. So,

00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:42.159
yeah. I love it both, but I do really enjoy that

00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:44.340
connection. Yeah, you have some shows coming

00:49:44.340 --> 00:49:46.579
up. The first one after this episode will be

00:49:46.579 --> 00:49:50.369
on the 16th. with Jen Kearney, am I pronouncing

00:49:50.369 --> 00:49:54.230
that right? Yeah, that's my monthly residency

00:49:54.230 --> 00:49:56.170
at the Porch, which actually, this is the last

00:49:56.170 --> 00:49:58.590
one for a couple of months, but the Porch and

00:49:58.590 --> 00:50:02.210
Medford Mass, which is, that's like a brunch

00:50:02.210 --> 00:50:05.309
gig that I do there with different friends. I

00:50:05.309 --> 00:50:07.010
call it lunch with friends, so I have a different

00:50:07.010 --> 00:50:10.230
friend each month. The other one, the next one

00:50:10.230 --> 00:50:12.690
after that is with Peter Parcheck. That's the

00:50:12.690 --> 00:50:14.969
project I do with him and we'll be at the fallout

00:50:14.969 --> 00:50:18.420
shelter in Norwood Mass. And then I saw in January,

00:50:18.519 --> 00:50:20.019
after the first of the year, you're actually

00:50:20.019 --> 00:50:23.420
traveling to do a show in North Carolina and

00:50:23.420 --> 00:50:29.340
Maryland? Yeah. So I'm doing the International

00:50:29.340 --> 00:50:34.539
Blues Challenge, which is in Memphis. So it's

00:50:34.539 --> 00:50:37.440
happened every year for many years, and I've

00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:42.260
never gone down there. But this year I went and

00:50:42.260 --> 00:50:45.199
did the Boston Blues Challenge. I won the Boston

00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:47.760
Blues Challenge. First of all, I'll preface it

00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:50.019
by saying I always hated contests and I kind

00:50:50.019 --> 00:50:51.599
of wrote off, I was like, I'm never doing any

00:50:51.599 --> 00:50:54.300
contests again. Like at some point I said, I'm

00:50:54.300 --> 00:50:56.579
not answering any contests. Stupid, I hate contests.

00:50:56.780 --> 00:50:59.099
But I was just, I don't know, I just on a whim

00:50:59.099 --> 00:51:02.119
said, I'm gonna just, I wanna, I would love to

00:51:02.119 --> 00:51:04.539
just, you know, I feel a little out of the loop.

00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:07.400
I'd love to just jump in and just. go down there

00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:09.460
even if it's just for the hang and for you know

00:51:09.460 --> 00:51:12.480
seeing everybody and and it ended up being really

00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:14.219
fun and even if i hadn't won it would have been

00:51:14.219 --> 00:51:16.320
really fun it was just it was it was a good time

00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:19.739
and and so now they said now i have to go down

00:51:19.739 --> 00:51:22.280
to memphis and do the international blues challenge

00:51:22.280 --> 00:51:26.340
so i decided to try to tour down it's all last

00:51:26.340 --> 00:51:28.679
minute so right now i have One gig on the way

00:51:28.679 --> 00:51:32.800
down and one gig on the way back up. So house

00:51:32.800 --> 00:51:36.880
concert in Midland, North Carolina, and then

00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:39.800
49 West in Annapolis, Maryland on the way back

00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:42.179
up. So hopefully a few more things will come

00:51:42.179 --> 00:51:45.280
together. Well, I think I've got some, I definitely

00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:47.440
have some listeners in the mid -Atlantic states.

00:51:48.739 --> 00:51:50.920
So, awesome. If you guys are listening to this

00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:54.000
episode, please go out and make plans. You've

00:51:54.000 --> 00:51:56.179
got some time. Hopefully got some money left

00:51:56.179 --> 00:52:00.230
after Christmas. to go out and hear Danielle

00:52:00.230 --> 00:52:04.230
perform. Danielle, I usually ramp up with a few

00:52:04.230 --> 00:52:06.909
just random questions. Well, some of them are

00:52:06.909 --> 00:52:09.469
written down. Some of them just come up, just

00:52:09.469 --> 00:52:12.829
come to me as we're talking. You got about five

00:52:12.829 --> 00:52:15.349
minutes for a few more questions? Yeah, sure.

00:52:15.769 --> 00:52:18.090
OK. Now, I know Prince is a huge influence of

00:52:18.090 --> 00:52:22.750
yours. My first, when I was about, I'd say sixth

00:52:22.750 --> 00:52:24.650
grade, whatever that is, 11, 12 years old, I

00:52:24.650 --> 00:52:27.539
was buying cassettes. I wasn't quite to CDs yet.

00:52:27.579 --> 00:52:31.820
So the first Prince cassette I got Was um, it

00:52:31.820 --> 00:52:35.000
was prince the new power generation Was the one

00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:37.500
he put out in 91 diamonds and pearls diamonds

00:52:37.500 --> 00:52:41.480
and pearls. Yes. Yeah. Yeah How do you like do

00:52:41.480 --> 00:52:44.340
you like that era of prince the early 90s? I

00:52:44.340 --> 00:52:49.059
like it all. Um, I yeah, I mean i'm I have a

00:52:49.059 --> 00:52:52.199
preference to the revolution to like the um,

00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:57.389
you know to 1999, Purple Rain. Actually, my favorite

00:52:57.389 --> 00:52:59.670
of his is Sign of the Times, which was the last

00:52:59.670 --> 00:53:02.329
one he did with the Revolution. But I love New

00:53:02.329 --> 00:53:04.650
Power Generation, too. I mean, that's a great

00:53:04.650 --> 00:53:07.429
album. That's got cream. It's got get off. I

00:53:07.429 --> 00:53:10.190
love that album. And then he did the Symbol album

00:53:10.190 --> 00:53:13.250
after that, just before he changed his name.

00:53:13.690 --> 00:53:17.329
I never listened to the Symbol period. Are there

00:53:17.329 --> 00:53:20.909
some good deep cuts there? I never heard a lot

00:53:20.909 --> 00:53:24.659
about that. I think that the so the symbol album

00:53:24.659 --> 00:53:26.239
the album that was just named the symbol that

00:53:26.239 --> 00:53:27.840
was like before he actually changed his name

00:53:27.840 --> 00:53:30.460
to that is with new power generation and it was

00:53:30.460 --> 00:53:32.260
i think it was the next one after diamonds and

00:53:32.260 --> 00:53:36.880
pearls um and and that has uh the song seven

00:53:36.880 --> 00:53:40.559
on it it's got um i don't know if that that was

00:53:40.559 --> 00:53:42.820
like the number one hit on there i feel like

00:53:42.820 --> 00:53:45.280
there was one other one but i can't i'm drawing

00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:47.639
a blank right now but that that was that's a

00:53:47.639 --> 00:53:49.739
great album And that's just before he changed

00:53:49.739 --> 00:53:51.900
his name to the symbol. In fact, the first track

00:53:51.900 --> 00:53:58.519
on that is My Name is Prince. My name is Prince

00:53:58.519 --> 00:54:01.619
and I'm funky. That also has, I don't know if

00:54:01.619 --> 00:54:02.960
you could swear on this, I'll just say it has

00:54:02.960 --> 00:54:06.599
sexy MF. Yeah, we can push the boundaries, go

00:54:06.599 --> 00:54:11.940
right up to the edge is what I say. Yeah. Everybody

00:54:11.940 --> 00:54:15.159
knows the the saying don't meet your heroes I

00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:17.280
don't have a question about someone you met that

00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:20.440
you're like, oh that was a letdown Have you met

00:54:20.440 --> 00:54:24.539
someone that? Has inspired you and you thought

00:54:24.539 --> 00:54:26.159
well, this would be cool and then you meet him

00:54:26.159 --> 00:54:28.719
and you're like, okay He was really awesome or

00:54:28.719 --> 00:54:31.719
she was really just exceeded my expectations.

00:54:33.119 --> 00:54:38.599
Um Well, so in general every time I've met somebody

00:54:38.599 --> 00:54:42.280
I'm a fan of, I've walked away unsatisfied, but

00:54:42.280 --> 00:54:44.800
not because of any issue, not because of anything

00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:48.139
that they've done. Mostly because of the way

00:54:48.139 --> 00:54:51.860
I acted in the situation. Like I got to meet

00:54:51.860 --> 00:54:54.539
Bonnie Raitt, and she was, she could have been

00:54:54.539 --> 00:54:57.579
nice, she was very nice. But I was just like,

00:54:57.599 --> 00:54:59.679
I have music and that's so much, like I just

00:54:59.679 --> 00:55:02.579
like blabbed, I just like, you know, a bunch

00:55:02.579 --> 00:55:05.389
of words just kind of fell out of my face. gushing

00:55:05.389 --> 00:55:08.090
and I don't I wasn't really satisfied with the

00:55:08.090 --> 00:55:10.630
encounter but but she was really nice so it wasn't

00:55:10.630 --> 00:55:13.130
her fault it was like me just feeling like oh

00:55:13.130 --> 00:55:17.789
man I'm an idiot you know um the best the best

00:55:17.789 --> 00:55:20.449
that I ever the best I ever experienced was meeting

00:55:20.449 --> 00:55:25.050
Joe Cocker oh cool he was just so nice and it

00:55:25.050 --> 00:55:26.789
was and I only met him because my friend Kevin

00:55:26.789 --> 00:55:29.110
so had opened for him at uh the Beacon Theater

00:55:29.110 --> 00:55:31.949
in New York and I went with him and after the

00:55:31.949 --> 00:55:35.719
show uh joe came up to kevin's uh dressing room

00:55:35.719 --> 00:55:36.960
like there were a bunch of people hanging out

00:55:36.960 --> 00:55:38.760
there and he came up and he was just really nice

00:55:38.760 --> 00:55:40.980
i mean it was not like oh we bonded and we had

00:55:40.980 --> 00:55:44.639
this great like it was just for some reason i

00:55:44.639 --> 00:55:47.840
thought that he probably had in my mind i was

00:55:47.840 --> 00:55:49.460
like he just seemed like he had this reputation

00:55:49.460 --> 00:55:51.139
there's something about his vibe that i thought

00:55:51.139 --> 00:55:53.440
he would be a little like edgy or something i

00:55:53.440 --> 00:55:55.980
didn't think he would be so nice he was so nice

00:55:55.980 --> 00:55:58.199
he was so so nice and he was then he was like

00:55:58.199 --> 00:56:01.099
just in passing talking about, well, we did Woodstock,

00:56:01.239 --> 00:56:03.239
da da da da da. And I was like, I'm like, I'm

00:56:03.239 --> 00:56:05.340
sitting here in front of Joe Cocker and he's

00:56:05.340 --> 00:56:07.320
talking about Woodstock. And then he was so nice

00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:09.079
and he like gave me a kiss on the cheek goodbye.

00:56:09.280 --> 00:56:12.320
And he was just, he was so sweet. That was like

00:56:12.320 --> 00:56:15.840
a satisfying encounter, you know, and I probably

00:56:15.840 --> 00:56:18.420
didn't say much at all, you know, which was probably

00:56:18.420 --> 00:56:21.699
why it was more satisfying. That's a cool story

00:56:21.699 --> 00:56:26.329
though. Yeah. Yeah. So that was fun, but. Yeah,

00:56:26.389 --> 00:56:28.190
I haven't really met anybody that I was like,

00:56:28.190 --> 00:56:30.730
ah, they were jerks or whatever. I haven't met

00:56:30.730 --> 00:56:34.869
that many people that are famous. Do you have

00:56:34.869 --> 00:56:38.190
a favorite song from your first record or even

00:56:38.190 --> 00:56:42.090
a track that you wrote around that time period

00:56:42.090 --> 00:56:44.190
or even a couple years before that you never

00:56:44.190 --> 00:56:46.289
released, never recorded, never played live?

00:56:46.969 --> 00:56:49.750
Do you have some songs that are kind of, you

00:56:49.750 --> 00:56:52.449
know, in the vault, in the shadows that you're

00:56:52.449 --> 00:56:55.880
very still pleased with all these years later.

00:56:57.099 --> 00:56:59.139
Something that's, you mean like something from

00:56:59.139 --> 00:57:02.320
the first album or something in the... I guess

00:57:02.320 --> 00:57:04.639
it might be two part. I guess what would be your

00:57:04.639 --> 00:57:07.139
favorite song from the first album? And then

00:57:07.139 --> 00:57:10.599
is there an unreleased song that's very special

00:57:10.599 --> 00:57:12.760
to you that you're like, look, it's just, it's

00:57:12.760 --> 00:57:14.219
not coming out. I'm not going to play it live,

00:57:14.420 --> 00:57:19.019
but I love it. I can't think of an unreleased

00:57:19.019 --> 00:57:22.239
one, but the first album... Like Nothing Romantic

00:57:22.239 --> 00:57:24.000
was the first full -length album. I just kind

00:57:24.000 --> 00:57:26.380
of ignore any kind of little EPs that came up

00:57:26.380 --> 00:57:30.059
before that. So I think of that as my first album.

00:57:30.380 --> 00:57:33.539
It's weird, when you get distance from something,

00:57:34.360 --> 00:57:35.539
sometimes you listen back. Sometimes you listen

00:57:35.539 --> 00:57:37.579
back and you go, oh, I wish I didn't say that.

00:57:37.579 --> 00:57:39.380
That was pringy. And sometimes you listen back

00:57:39.380 --> 00:57:45.119
and you go, oh, okay. I had such a... I had a

00:57:45.119 --> 00:57:47.679
period of time in the last year where I was just

00:57:47.679 --> 00:57:50.340
not writing much at all. I just wasn't inspired

00:57:50.340 --> 00:57:52.119
to write. And I was like, maybe I don't know

00:57:52.119 --> 00:57:56.260
how to write anymore. And I was in the car with

00:57:56.260 --> 00:57:58.579
my husband, and he just put nothing romantic

00:57:58.579 --> 00:58:02.659
on. And I was like, oh, I do know how to write.

00:58:04.059 --> 00:58:07.139
I was like, oh, yeah, I'm all right. I know how

00:58:07.139 --> 00:58:10.480
to write. But yeah, anyway, from now on, I mean,

00:58:10.840 --> 00:58:13.340
I still think nothing. You Don't Know Nothing

00:58:13.340 --> 00:58:15.519
is probably the best song I've written and it

00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:20.980
was written at that time. So it's probably what's

00:58:20.980 --> 00:58:23.400
given me a hard time writing since because I'm

00:58:23.400 --> 00:58:26.360
like, well, this isn't as good as that. The chorus

00:58:26.360 --> 00:58:30.139
just grabs you and... Somehow that came out and

00:58:30.139 --> 00:58:32.699
it was just like, oh, okay, this is like a cohesive...

00:58:32.699 --> 00:58:34.739
It's the only... It's like a song that I wrote

00:58:34.739 --> 00:58:37.679
that was a cohesive story. It had a good point.

00:58:37.800 --> 00:58:39.679
I was just... And I've just not been able to

00:58:39.679 --> 00:58:44.380
do that since. Not in that way. I think, I think

00:58:44.380 --> 00:58:47.559
Snow Globe is really, you know, aged well. It's,

00:58:47.559 --> 00:58:49.800
it's the first track on your first album, but

00:58:49.800 --> 00:58:51.679
hopefully you still perform that one sometimes

00:58:51.679 --> 00:58:54.800
moment by moment. I do. So, uh, Snow Globe is

00:58:54.800 --> 00:58:56.960
like, it's probably gotten the best response

00:58:56.960 --> 00:58:59.099
from other people out of anything I've ever written.

00:58:59.599 --> 00:59:01.619
And it wasn't necessarily my favorite that I

00:59:01.619 --> 00:59:04.500
wrote. It was, it's just, people relate to it,

00:59:04.500 --> 00:59:07.300
I think, for some reason, but in different ways,

00:59:07.300 --> 00:59:11.239
you know, but yeah. Well, all right, a couple

00:59:11.239 --> 00:59:14.260
silly questions here. Danielle, do you ever,

00:59:14.300 --> 00:59:17.139
are you ever sitting on hold? And we all know

00:59:17.139 --> 00:59:19.599
the hold music. Sometimes it's better than others.

00:59:19.619 --> 00:59:21.519
Sometimes you really get treated to some, you

00:59:21.519 --> 00:59:27.519
know, jazzy sounds. Do you ever hear hold music

00:59:27.519 --> 00:59:30.760
and you're waiting for 17 minutes and you just

00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:32.460
start tapping the foot and you start thinking,

00:59:32.460 --> 00:59:35.019
I could do something with this. And you start

00:59:35.019 --> 00:59:39.889
thinking of... Has that ever happened the answer

00:59:39.889 --> 00:59:42.909
is probably no, but I had to ask I love that

00:59:42.909 --> 00:59:45.909
question No, because I'm usually so angry that

00:59:45.909 --> 00:59:49.050
I'm on hold The last thing on my mind is being

00:59:49.050 --> 00:59:51.289
creative and usually it's like and they never

00:59:51.289 --> 00:59:53.070
pick good music It's always the most annoying

00:59:53.070 --> 00:59:55.510
music that there is I don't know if they're trying

00:59:55.510 --> 00:59:57.929
to fully torture you I don't not sure why they

00:59:57.929 --> 01:00:01.670
do that, but it's Like I'd rather than just leave

01:00:01.670 --> 01:00:04.239
it quiet and every so often say hey we're still

01:00:04.239 --> 01:00:07.500
you're still on hold your call your call is very

01:00:07.500 --> 01:00:13.579
important to us now back to music i did hear

01:00:13.579 --> 01:00:16.099
some hold music the other day and it was i was

01:00:16.099 --> 01:00:17.920
scratching my head i was like what is happening

01:00:17.920 --> 01:00:22.000
here they it was like simple man and tuesday's

01:00:22.000 --> 01:00:24.699
gone and i'm thinking has runnard scannard have

01:00:24.699 --> 01:00:28.610
they authorized this because this is i mean I'm

01:00:28.610 --> 01:00:30.389
not complaining. This is better than I usually

01:00:30.389 --> 01:00:39.469
hear, but what is the world coming to? Daniel,

01:00:39.650 --> 01:00:42.829
do you have, are you an animal lover? Yes. Grow

01:00:42.829 --> 01:00:47.369
up with dogs and cats. I grew up with cats. My

01:00:47.369 --> 01:00:49.429
mom was like a real cat. She's always been a

01:00:49.429 --> 01:00:51.349
real cat lady. You know, she always been into

01:00:51.349 --> 01:00:53.769
cats. When I was little, she used to take, she

01:00:53.769 --> 01:00:55.889
would take in strays. There's a couple of times

01:00:55.889 --> 01:00:58.530
she'd take in a stray and then she had one she

01:00:58.530 --> 01:01:01.230
took in that like had eight babies and then we

01:01:01.230 --> 01:01:04.909
had to find homes for the eight kittens. We kept

01:01:04.909 --> 01:01:06.969
one of them who was Mickey and then he was like

01:01:06.969 --> 01:01:09.730
this real like, he was just this rough and tumble

01:01:09.730 --> 01:01:12.789
like just would go out and come back like after

01:01:12.789 --> 01:01:14.510
having fights. He was like, he was just like

01:01:14.510 --> 01:01:17.690
this. little mean -spirited sometimes. So we

01:01:17.690 --> 01:01:21.130
always had cats when I was a kid and then I kind

01:01:21.130 --> 01:01:23.849
of developed an allergy like when I didn't have

01:01:23.849 --> 01:01:27.409
one for when I moved out of my mom's house and

01:01:27.409 --> 01:01:29.630
you know I realized oh I'm actually allergic

01:01:29.630 --> 01:01:32.269
to cats. So I didn't have cats for years and

01:01:32.269 --> 01:01:34.190
then my husband and I just were both kind of

01:01:34.190 --> 01:01:36.369
allergic but we were just like all right let's

01:01:36.369 --> 01:01:40.389
just do it let's get a cat. So we're just we're

01:01:40.389 --> 01:01:43.130
not like so severely allergic that we can't handle

01:01:43.130 --> 01:01:45.250
it, we're getting used to it, but we got our

01:01:45.250 --> 01:01:48.829
cat Lucy like a little over a year ago and I

01:01:48.829 --> 01:01:51.050
mean we're like, we're kind of ridiculous cat

01:01:51.050 --> 01:01:54.130
owners, we love her so much. She had a lot of

01:01:54.130 --> 01:01:58.090
like issues when we got her, like we had to get

01:01:58.090 --> 01:02:00.250
all her teeth removed and she had like so many

01:02:00.250 --> 01:02:03.170
health issues and now she's doing well. We're

01:02:03.170 --> 01:02:06.090
like, yeah, we're kind of silly about how into

01:02:06.090 --> 01:02:09.760
her we are, but yeah, short answer is yes. Yeah,

01:02:09.760 --> 01:02:12.519
we have three cats. There's the my 10 year old

01:02:12.519 --> 01:02:14.619
cat and then we have two kittens that we adopted

01:02:14.619 --> 01:02:18.179
a few months ago and How did she take to the

01:02:18.179 --> 01:02:21.179
kittens? Was she okay with that? She's not she's

01:02:21.179 --> 01:02:25.679
far from okay, and she's pretty Pretty brutal

01:02:25.679 --> 01:02:27.380
with them. I would say in the opening weeks,

01:02:27.400 --> 01:02:29.860
but she I think she's realizing okay They're

01:02:29.860 --> 01:02:33.119
not going anywhere. So maybe I think they've

01:02:33.119 --> 01:02:35.340
worn her out too. I mean they're counterattacks.

01:02:35.380 --> 01:02:38.699
I mean she used to go up and go after them when

01:02:38.699 --> 01:02:41.239
they were sleeping and um and really stir them

01:02:41.239 --> 01:02:46.400
up and I'd hear all this commotion but now they

01:02:46.400 --> 01:02:48.900
they I think they put a good licking on her uh

01:02:48.900 --> 01:02:53.900
once or twice so she is two sisters um the kittens

01:02:53.900 --> 01:02:57.239
that we got from the same litter but one thing

01:02:57.239 --> 01:02:59.739
I was going to say about cats I'm guilty of this

01:02:59.739 --> 01:03:04.139
this is with especially my older cat she she's

01:03:04.139 --> 01:03:07.690
been with me since before my wife, the kids,

01:03:07.989 --> 01:03:10.929
and so she looks at me every time I come home

01:03:10.929 --> 01:03:13.969
like, oh, you're back. Oh, I'm so happy. I could

01:03:13.969 --> 01:03:17.050
not be happier. Oh, pay attention to me. Why

01:03:17.050 --> 01:03:18.869
aren't you looking at me? Why aren't you awake

01:03:18.869 --> 01:03:22.550
yet? Let me lay on top of your head and let me

01:03:22.550 --> 01:03:25.210
climb down your throat. She still does all that

01:03:25.210 --> 01:03:28.989
stuff. You just get busy, you're occupied with

01:03:28.989 --> 01:03:31.929
a lot of stuff. My question, this is so long

01:03:31.929 --> 01:03:33.489
-winded, but I was going to ask, do you ever

01:03:33.489 --> 01:03:37.269
look at your animal, your cat? and realize, oh,

01:03:37.309 --> 01:03:39.150
it's been a week since I've actually looked at

01:03:39.150 --> 01:03:42.690
you and not pet you, but just put my project,

01:03:42.889 --> 01:03:46.010
my email, my stuff aside and just spent some

01:03:46.010 --> 01:03:52.579
time. No, I think more like, oh God, I have to

01:03:52.579 --> 01:03:54.360
get some stuff done. I'm just sitting here with

01:03:54.360 --> 01:03:59.139
the cat on. Probably the opposite. I'm like,

01:03:59.639 --> 01:04:01.820
all right, you've been laying on my chest for

01:04:01.820 --> 01:04:04.519
the last hour and a half. I think I need to get

01:04:04.519 --> 01:04:11.400
some stuff done. I prioritize her probably to

01:04:11.400 --> 01:04:16.260
a fault at this point. Uh, yeah, I do feel bad

01:04:16.260 --> 01:04:18.980
like when I, if I, you know, if I go away or,

01:04:19.500 --> 01:04:21.460
you know, we have really good neighbors downstairs

01:04:21.460 --> 01:04:24.199
who also have cats who, who know how to take

01:04:24.199 --> 01:04:27.059
care of cats. So, and they'll come up like three

01:04:27.059 --> 01:04:30.139
times a day when, if we go away and ask, ask

01:04:30.139 --> 01:04:32.599
them to take care of her. So we're, we're really

01:04:32.599 --> 01:04:35.300
lucky. We have, we have like, Really good neighbors,

01:04:35.320 --> 01:04:38.159
but uh, but yeah, so then I that's when I feel

01:04:38.159 --> 01:04:40.079
guilty, you know when I'm when we're somewhere

01:04:40.079 --> 01:04:42.099
else I'm like, oh god, she's all alone right

01:04:42.099 --> 01:04:43.440
now, even though she's probably like cool. I

01:04:43.440 --> 01:04:46.559
got the house to myself. Oh, yeah Cancer if you

01:04:46.559 --> 01:04:49.320
got to go places, I think it's the two or three

01:04:49.320 --> 01:04:51.980
night rule They're all okay for a little stretch

01:04:51.980 --> 01:04:55.639
their dogs not so much but no, I would feel so

01:04:55.639 --> 01:05:00.860
badly than a dog. Oh, yeah OK, I got other silly

01:05:00.860 --> 01:05:02.760
questions, but I don't want to take up too much

01:05:02.760 --> 01:05:07.059
more of your time here. Well, one more, I guess.

01:05:07.460 --> 01:05:10.539
Do you have a do you and Tom have a pop up toaster

01:05:10.539 --> 01:05:12.739
or do you have the toaster oven? And you're going

01:05:12.739 --> 01:05:17.059
to think what in the world is this? We don't

01:05:17.059 --> 01:05:19.239
have a toaster oven. We have a regular toaster.

01:05:19.619 --> 01:05:23.889
Oh, there goes my question. I was going to ask

01:05:23.889 --> 01:05:26.110
because we have a toaster oven and there's different

01:05:26.110 --> 01:05:29.289
settings. There's of course toast and then there's

01:05:29.289 --> 01:05:33.489
bake and I think a broil maybe. Have you ever,

01:05:33.730 --> 01:05:35.550
someone else has used it before you and you put

01:05:35.550 --> 01:05:37.789
a piece of toast or bagel in there and it comes

01:05:37.789 --> 01:05:39.610
out floppy and you're like what is happening?

01:05:39.869 --> 01:05:44.449
It's because you didn't change the setting. Not

01:05:44.449 --> 01:05:46.469
that I can remember. I did have a toaster oven

01:05:46.469 --> 01:05:48.449
at one point but I don't remember if that happened.

01:05:48.489 --> 01:05:53.980
I know that one time We had this like combo regular

01:05:53.980 --> 01:05:56.380
toaster oven. It had like the top slots, but

01:05:56.380 --> 01:05:59.019
then it also could be a toaster oven. And when

01:05:59.019 --> 01:06:01.780
we were in an apartment in Somerville a few years

01:06:01.780 --> 01:06:05.000
back and we had a bad mouse problem, I remember

01:06:05.000 --> 01:06:08.360
taking that out and a mouse flew out of the slot.

01:06:09.760 --> 01:06:12.219
And it took me a while to want to have a toaster

01:06:12.219 --> 01:06:17.059
after that. I have spent all this time talking

01:06:17.059 --> 01:06:19.599
about these silly questions. Anything you want

01:06:19.599 --> 01:06:22.800
to say about the Boston area, the New England

01:06:22.800 --> 01:06:25.739
area, your favorite season, some things that

01:06:25.739 --> 01:06:29.079
you and Tom like to do together when you're not

01:06:29.079 --> 01:06:36.480
performing? We have motorcycles. He rides his

01:06:36.480 --> 01:06:39.260
more than I ride mine. I have like a little Honda.

01:06:39.519 --> 01:06:42.460
Rebel 250 that I I just learned to ride like

01:06:42.460 --> 01:06:45.199
a couple of years a year a year or two ago And

01:06:45.199 --> 01:06:46.920
this was the first season that I actually started

01:06:46.920 --> 01:06:49.840
riding it very much But mostly I hop on the back

01:06:49.840 --> 01:06:52.940
of his bike, you know He's got he got a Harley

01:06:52.940 --> 01:06:56.699
Cruiser this year like a road glide and so we

01:06:56.699 --> 01:06:59.760
love just riding out to different parts of the

01:06:59.760 --> 01:07:01.699
state and sometimes up to New Hampshire just

01:07:01.699 --> 01:07:05.559
finding little towns and and just riding the

01:07:05.559 --> 01:07:07.579
roads around there and stopping in a little town

01:07:07.579 --> 01:07:11.369
and going into the shops and having some lunch

01:07:11.369 --> 01:07:14.170
and it's like our favorite thing to do that's

01:07:14.170 --> 01:07:17.869
outside of playing music. That's wonderful. I

01:07:17.869 --> 01:07:20.409
just love the story going back to the record.

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Again, everybody, please make sure and I'll plug

01:07:25.369 --> 01:07:27.730
this as well, Danielle, but bright shining stars,

01:07:28.789 --> 01:07:31.210
you're paying homage to your heroes. Danielle,

01:07:31.289 --> 01:07:32.809
anywhere else that you're going to be in the

01:07:32.809 --> 01:07:36.050
new year that's not listed so far or that you...

01:07:36.079 --> 01:07:38.559
that you want to promote? Just the next Glory

01:07:38.559 --> 01:07:42.380
Junkies show is, it's in, it's March 7th in Maynard,

01:07:42.780 --> 01:07:45.000
Massachusetts. It's called The Sanctuary. So

01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:47.139
that's, that's our next show as a band, the Glory

01:07:47.139 --> 01:07:49.760
Junkies. So that's the only thing on that list

01:07:49.760 --> 01:07:52.579
that was like, it's like the other project that

01:07:52.579 --> 01:07:55.099
I'm involved in that, that, so that's the other

01:07:55.099 --> 01:07:56.780
gig there. And there's a, there's a bunch of

01:07:56.780 --> 01:07:59.420
stuff and there'll be more if you, danielm .com

01:07:59.420 --> 01:08:01.239
is the website and that's like the, that's kind

01:08:01.239 --> 01:08:03.420
of good catch all for wherever you like to get

01:08:03.420 --> 01:08:05.739
your info. It's got all the different social

01:08:05.739 --> 01:08:09.079
media links and all that and all the shows listed.

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So, okay. Danielle M. Folks, if you can spell

01:08:12.519 --> 01:08:15.000
Danielle, you're almost all the way there. Just

01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:17.560
throw in the letter M at the end. That's it.

01:08:17.840 --> 01:08:21.819
What a great name to say. I got it early on.

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My mom was hip with a hip with how to do that

01:08:25.920 --> 01:08:28.859
stuff back in the day. So I got my daniellm .com

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real early on. Yep. Download these albums. This

01:08:32.939 --> 01:08:35.260
is coming out a few weeks. ahead of Christmas.

01:08:35.359 --> 01:08:37.619
Folks, if you're having people at your house

01:08:37.619 --> 01:08:40.420
around the holidays, play the new one. But, you

01:08:40.420 --> 01:08:45.000
know, jump around. Play the Glory Junkies, the

01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:47.140
solo album or the full band. Nothing romantic.

01:08:48.079 --> 01:08:50.159
Try out these tracks with your friends and family.

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You're going to love them. I've been driving

01:08:52.159 --> 01:08:54.359
around listening to these songs for the past

01:08:54.359 --> 01:08:57.560
couple of weeks. Again, the influences, you'll

01:08:57.560 --> 01:08:59.380
hear some of them, but Daniel's got her own style.

01:08:59.479 --> 01:09:03.060
So if you already like Lucinda Williams, Janis

01:09:03.060 --> 01:09:07.520
Joplin, Bonnie Raitt and Bob Dylan. We didn't

01:09:07.520 --> 01:09:09.880
get into much of that either, but you're going

01:09:09.880 --> 01:09:13.779
to love this stuff. I'm so happy to promote your

01:09:13.779 --> 01:09:17.180
music, Danielle. Thank you again for making a

01:09:17.180 --> 01:09:19.739
good chunk of time here with me today. Well,

01:09:19.739 --> 01:09:21.560
it was a pleasure. It was fun. It was easy. It

01:09:21.560 --> 01:09:23.939
went by really fast. Dan, thank you so much.

01:09:24.159 --> 01:09:25.979
First of all, thanks for having me, but also

01:09:25.979 --> 01:09:29.960
thanks for really listening to the stuff and

01:09:29.960 --> 01:09:33.489
doing the research. Knowing what you're talking

01:09:33.489 --> 01:09:37.729
about when you It was it made it a pleasure and

01:09:37.729 --> 01:09:40.689
easy to talk about stuff because you you're not

01:09:40.689 --> 01:09:43.829
just asking like, you know these like sort of

01:09:43.829 --> 01:09:45.550
vague questions like you're you're really getting

01:09:45.550 --> 01:09:48.189
into the details of things and You're great at

01:09:48.189 --> 01:09:49.930
this. Thanks for it. Thank you. Thanks for doing

01:09:49.930 --> 01:09:51.949
this. I appreciate it Well, thank you Danielle

01:09:51.949 --> 01:09:53.909
like we were saying I think before we started

01:09:53.909 --> 01:09:57.229
the episode People may think that I just have

01:09:57.229 --> 01:09:59.270
anybody on the show who says oh sure. I'll do

01:09:59.270 --> 01:10:04.029
it. But I really seek out folks performers creatives

01:10:04.029 --> 01:10:06.810
that are doing stuff and like you Danielle going

01:10:06.810 --> 01:10:11.310
on 20 years or over 20 years performing and You

01:10:11.310 --> 01:10:13.289
know, I do try to come in it come in prepared

01:10:13.289 --> 01:10:16.689
So this will be entertaining for the Dan time

01:10:16.689 --> 01:10:20.409
listeners. So It's Danielle time today. It's

01:10:20.409 --> 01:10:24.689
been a true pleasure Maybe later in the year

01:10:24.689 --> 01:10:27.090
later in the new year. We can reconnect and talk

01:10:27.090 --> 01:10:31.170
about the new material would love that Okay,

01:10:31.289 --> 01:10:33.810
well, folks, that's it for this episode of Dan

01:10:33.810 --> 01:10:36.689
Time. I hope you've enjoyed it. And remember,

01:10:37.489 --> 01:10:40.270
just like the title track on Bright Shining Stars,

01:10:41.369 --> 01:10:45.029
that's you. That really, that could be you. You've

01:10:45.029 --> 01:10:48.270
got a chance, however small, to make a difference.

01:10:48.989 --> 01:10:52.810
The world needs more bright shining stars. And,

01:10:52.829 --> 01:10:56.250
you know, superheroes, you can be a superhero

01:10:56.250 --> 01:11:01.779
in your own department. You're going to love

01:11:01.779 --> 01:11:05.560
the record. Have a great rest of the year. Danielle,

01:11:05.680 --> 01:11:09.260
happy holidays to you and be safe. Thank you

01:11:09.260 --> 01:11:16.760
so much. All right. If you love that episode,

01:11:16.760 --> 01:11:19.819
if you're enjoying the Dan Time podcast, be sure

01:11:19.819 --> 01:11:22.119
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01:11:25.979 --> 01:11:29.239
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01:11:29.239 --> 01:11:29.859
next Sunday.