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All right.

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Welcome back.

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You're on the Dan Time podcast.

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I'm your host, Dan McCardell.

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If this is your first time checking out the show, I'm so happy you're here.

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You're in the right place.

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I don't always reintroduce the premise of this show, the meaning of Dan Time.

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So let me take a moment to bring it back front and center for

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those of you just joining us.

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Every week, I bring you a new guest, somebody who is making a difference,

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making an impact, changing the world around them for the better and somebody

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who I think that you ought to hear about.

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The one thing that most of them have in common is that they're all like me,

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named Dan.

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Now, very few of us were actually named Dan at birth, although I've met one kid

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who was absolutely named after one of the 12 tribes of Israel.

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Not everybody's a Dan.

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As you may have noticed, I've had a Chris, a Vic, and of course, Jim Powell.

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On a show like this, we've got to mix it up in order to avoid

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what I like to call Dan Fatigue.

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We've had a Danny.

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We will have your traditional Daniel at some point and coming soon, we will

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have at least one Danielle.

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This is not a boys club.

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The facts of the matter is I've just not been able to confirm a female guest to

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date, but I'm working on it.

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If your name is Danielle and you've been listening and you're thinking,

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geez, Dan, why didn't you say something?

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I've been waiting for the invitation.

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Well, I've said it now.

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So reach out to DanTimePod at gmail.com.

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If you'd like to come on the show, regardless of your first name.

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So that's the general theme.

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Want to leave you thinking, laughing, and hopefully inspired.

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Today, my very special guest is Dan Harrison.

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Dan is a Nashville based singer songwriter who fell in love with the

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South and country music while attending college at Wake Forest in North Carolina.

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Dan songs touch on themes like new experiences, falling in love, going for

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something you've been thinking about for a while, pressing play, giving it a shot.

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Jumping in, being confident in yourself.

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And he connects places, textures, sights, and smells of the South,

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which are very unique to memories.

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Dan's vocals really have an effortless quality and charm.

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His choruses carry you to another level.

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I could do an entire segment just on the single nowhere bar.

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I think this should have been a number one hit back when it came out in 2019.

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When you hear Dan sing Carolina at about the two and a half minute mark,

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I think you'll know what I mean.

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His songs are just optimistic.

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A lot of good stuff on the radio right now, but not quite what Dan's offering.

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And what I mean by that is you'll be able to hear his songs on the radio

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and what I mean by that is you'll hear some downer songs when you're driving

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around that don't really have a takeaway at the end.

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So you're thinking, all right, I don't really feel a lot better

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than I did when that song started.

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Dan's singles on the other hand, they've usually got a good spin

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to every situation he describes.

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Like in running out of radio, we might run out of cash, out of gas, out of time,

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but we'll never be running out of radio.

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Dan was awarded the 2023 ASCAP Harold Adamson Lyric Award for country music.

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His song Friendly Fire won the 2021 ASCAP Jay Gourney Award

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and 2022 Bluebird Cafe Golden Pick Award.

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Dan has released music as both a solo artist and as part of the duo Salem Town.

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His songs have been featured on Spotify's New Boots and Wild Country,

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Next from Nashville, Fresh Finds and Fresh Finds Country.

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He's also got songwriting credits on the viral TikTok song,

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All Hat, No Cowboy by Bells, which has hit four million views.

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All right. The new single is We Went South.

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You can download it on any music platform.

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It appeared on Spotify's New Music Friday playlist

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when it was released September 15th.

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Now, whatever genre that you're really into when you hear this song,

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I really think that you're going to feel like you got an advanced copy of something

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that the rest of the world just doesn't know about yet.

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Follow Dan on social media, on Instagram, X, Facebook,

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and you can find the video to this song and any other singles.

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All right. Let's hear some of the new song We Went South

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and then get to my conversation with Dan.

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Folks, it is Dan Harrison Dime.

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We were looking for something better, didn't want to waste any more time.

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Never thought that we'd find our forever if we stuck around.

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So that's why we went south on the interstate headed straight for that small town.

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Didn't know where we'd lead, but I guess we know now

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cause we found a picket fence and a patch of ground to settle down.

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Planted roots down in that dirt, thank God how things turned out.

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When we went south, yeah we went south.

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Didn't have us a whole lot of money, all we knew was we were chasing a dream.

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With the magnolia trees and honey so sweet,

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we found everything we'd ever need.

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When we went south.

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All right folks, well I am just thrilled today to bring to you

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Nashville based singer songwriter, Dan Harrison.

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Dan, thanks so much for joining the show.

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Thank you so much for having me, Dan. Appreciate it.

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Everybody, I want you to know something.

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Dan Harrison is another example, just like last week,

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of somebody that I really want to have on the show.

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He's got a story that's a little bit outside the box.

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He's a country music artist, but he's not your typical

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born and raised in the south singer songwriter.

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Dan, I'll stop there and just kind of let you introduce yourself to the listeners,

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where you came from, how you got interested in music, and where you are today.

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Yeah, no thanks man. I appreciate it again you having me on the show.

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It's very cool. I was telling this to someone yesterday actually like

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I feel like I don't know that many Dan's.

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I grew up like, I think I was the only Dan that I knew.

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There was another kid I grew up with named Dan, but he went by a different name.

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So I love the concept of this podcast.

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I just wanted to say, you know, there's Dan's doing great things out there.

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But yeah, no, so yeah, I'm living in Nashville and I've been here a little over five years.

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Originally from Philadelphia by way of Los Angeles.

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I was born in LA and I moved to Philly when I was about five.

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I still have a lot of family on the west coast though, and I love going over there.

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But grew up in Philly and went to college down in North Carolina, Wake Forest, Go Deeks.

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You know, made my way over here after that, after a couple years back home,

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and then came down here to Nashville. So that's the quick overview of it.

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Now, Dan, did your mom or your dad play an instrument in the house or your brothers or sisters?

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And I really, really wish I stuck with them.

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You know, but it's, I guess, different when you come to it yourself versus it's forced on you.

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But I definitely understand the value in that now.

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But no, my parents were always musical. My dad was self-taught.

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that he recorded on cassette probably. And he had the dream of that.

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But I don't think it's ever something he seriously pursued.

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And my mom liked to sing. But there was no family band situation.

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My middle brother is a very talented drummer and DJ and kind of electronic music producer.

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He's kind of in a different space. He's like indie rock and jam stuff.

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But we all have musical things. And we joked about the family band thing.

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But it wasn't ever in the cards for us. But yeah, so definitely music was always a big

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part of my life from as long as I can remember. Certainly appreciating it.

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The stuff that my dad would listen to in the car growing up, I remember like it was yesterday.

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who was encouraging you? Maybe an older person saying,

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hey, you got something there. You need to follow up on that.

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And I had friends in late middle school, early high school getting into guitar.

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And I was like, well, that's pretty cool. And they were the ones showing me like

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Jimi Hendrix, ACDC, Van Halen Queen, and stuff like that.

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I thought it was cool, but it was like a little it felt like very old school.

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And then my buddy got one of those Squier strap packs, those like really cheap,

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like kind of starter kits. And I was over one day and I was like, that was that looks awesome.

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I want to do whatever that is. And he was like, smoke on the water or something simple now.

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Like, yeah, that's kind of so I kind of got encouragement from there.

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And I had some great music teachers in the school at the school that I went to.

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And then I probably annoyed the crap. In fact, I know I did this new to laying and stuff like that.

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I did jazz band and and took music theory and music history stuff and just very

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it wasn't really specific to guitar, but it was just generally encouraging music.

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And then I had obviously guitar teachers that once I like told my parents, I was like serious about it.

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And I'm still connected to some of them and they're and they're great and really were really helpful.

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Now, was there a time where so you you enroll at Wake Forest in North Carolina?

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Did it come down to like two or three schools and you might have stayed up north or gone west or done

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something and the story might may have been different? You know, I asked I think about that

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sometimes. It's definitely possible. Wake was an early decision school for me.

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So that's where I went. And that's where I applied first. And that was it.

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But I looked at a number of other schools. I thought about Berkeley, but I didn't.

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I ran back pretty seriously in high school and wanted to in college and they did not have sports

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team and sports teams, I think, of any kind. So I didn't want to go north and be in a city.

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So I Berkeley was kind of off the table there. And I hadn't heard about Belmont or MTSU,

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which I'm not sure if I'm really with those schools, but two fantastic schools in the Nashville area

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that are hugely, hugely influential in the music industry here and beyond in terms of kind of the

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programs that they have and the people that have come out of there, you know, both on the business

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and creative side for the industry, just at hearty for one of them, you know, from MTSU.

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Brad Paisley went to Belmont. I mean, the list is just ridiculous from both of those schools.

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They pretty much run this town, which I always thought put me at a disadvantage, but

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thankfully it doesn't. And I feel like most of my friends anyway that I made here went to those

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schools. So I kind of feel like I went there anyway without having gone there. But no, I mean,

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it's possible I could have gone somewhere else. I thought about the West Coast to warmer weather,

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but I just fell in love with Wake as an overall school. I always wanted to do music, but I still

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wasn't at that stage that I was like, oh no, this is exactly what I'm doing. I thought like I would

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just go to school and figure it out and then maybe do music after. And I just really wanted to have

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the best college experience and learn and obviously athletically and academically.

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And I'm very happy with my pick. I don't know, I might've still ended up here, but I don't know

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when I would have ended up here or how exactly. It definitely wouldn't have happened the same way.

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And I might've not been exposed to country music the way I was and when I was and as it affected me.

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So who knows? Yeah. Well, that's a great time. Everyone can usually remember,

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and it's usually the college years, the college age years where you have that crossroads or you

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meet certain people or you have a girlfriend at the time that influences you in one way or another.

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But Dan, so I understand that at Wake Forest around that time period, you figure out that

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you like some country songs, some country music, maybe it's a relationship that you're in and you're

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just hearing a lot of it. Take me back to some of those days. Yeah. I mean, that's pretty much,

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you know, that on the head, like it was just being down there at that time. I went to school,

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I graduated from Wake in 2015. And just around that time is Eric Church was kind of really big.

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FGL was coming up those couple of years beforehand, Sam Hunt, Jake Owen, Zach Brown,

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a lot of those guys were like the big thing at the time Bro Country was starting. And you know,

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whatever you like or don't or dislike about it, there were things about it that caught my ear.

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And it was just what was a lot of my friends were playing, like, you know, driving around in their

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trucks because going around school then. And I also was dating a girl at the time that I met

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down there who was did the student booking for concerts on campus. I'll never forget Josh Thompson,

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who is a huge songwriter here now. He wrote Any Old Barstool for Jason Aldean, a lot of stuff for

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Thomas Rhett. He was an artist at that point. And he has one project out, but it's like one of my

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favorite records. And it was one of the first records I listened to called Way Out Here. He

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came to campus on his fall tour my freshman year. And I remember seeing him and I was, you know,

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just floored. And my girlfriend at the time, you know, I'd done some open mics on campus. And,

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you know, after we met, she's like, you really, you really should do country music. And it just

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never occurred to me that, you know, growing up doing rock and singer songwriter stuff, like I love

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John Mayer, Springsteen, the Eagles, Queen, there's a lot of like rock, pop, to a certain extent,

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blues, jazz, well, it all goes back to the blues, actually. So rock, country, jazz, all that stuff.

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They're all siblings going back to the blues. So there's a lot of overlap. And when you think of

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like the Heartland rock guys like Mellencamp or Springsteen, and then the Eagles, there's a lot

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of country crossover and influence there. So it's a natural fit once you find artists within that

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genre that you like. And so that's kind of what it was for me. I just found artists that I resonated

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with that I hadn't been exposed to growing up. Because where I grew up, just people didn't listen

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to country music as much. And even though I now know there's a massive radio station in the

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Philadelphia area, 92.5 XTU, that serves that whole region. It's one of the biggest country

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stations in the country. So yeah, it was definitely just like being in a totally new place like

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Wake Forest in North Carolina. Just culture. I wouldn't say culture shock, but it was just very

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much a time of change and experiencing new things. And it was awesome. And it was really

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hugely formative, I think, for me to where I am now in a lot of ways.

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Yeah, it seems like you're really starting to find yourself. And I can relate to seeing a band

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perform live that is a little bit outside of my box, so to speak. And you maybe get dragged to a

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bar or something. You're like, I don't really care about this band or this opening act. And then you

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hear them and you're like, maybe I was missing something here. And I think there might be a

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misnomer with some people with modern country music, that everybody on the stage is of a similar

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background. And you could probably speak to this. It really couldn't be further from the truth.

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all four of those people might primarily listen to a different type of music, but they all coalesce

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to create that sound. Yeah, no, I think the reality is my generation, which is give or take

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a few years, kind of generation that's making waves and starting to be at the forefront of the

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industry. We grew up with country as well as rock and hip hop and other influences. John Mayer,

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for example, is I think a huge, just anybody that has picked up a guitar since he existed.

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Kind of like with Taylor for girls too. But I like a lot of Taylor Swift's original country stuff as

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well. And I'm sure it was some amazing writers here. But I think that it's only natural that,

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because really genre is just something that was created for marketing purposes and for radio. And

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like I said, all these genres are brothers and they're siblings, sisters, whatever you want to

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call it. So it's really, take Hardy, for example, like he's like literally like doing metal now.

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And that's what his whole record, his recent record was about this two sides of him, the mockingbird

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and the crow. The crow is like the darker side, the metal side that he was as a kid, his kid growing

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up. And that was very influential to him. But then the mockingbird is like the country thing.

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That's the other side of him. And I really identify with that in terms of country is the

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foundation for what I do. And it's my passion and I love it. And it's the centering focus for me.

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But there's so many other great things to blend in. And I think that most country musicians will

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find nowadays have more diverse tastes and interests than you would expect because there's

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just no boundaries, no genres. I think streaming's done a lot with that too, in terms of you can have

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a hip hop song and a country song on the same playlist, and then a jazz song. And it's all

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Duke Ellington has a famous quote that I believe is attributed to him that says there's only two

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types of music good and bad. And I think that's really what comes down to. But by that same token,

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a lot of big artists aren't necessarily from the South. I mean, look at Keith Urban, he's from,

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well, he is from the South. He's from way, way South Australia. But then there's plenty of,

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you know, Shania Twain's Canadian. I met more Canadians in my life than Nashville than probably,

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I don't know if I even knew a single Canadian before I moved here. And there's so many down

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here that come down to write their songs, record their songs, and because there's a whole market

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up there. And the UK and I know the Nordic countries are very much growing in terms of their

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appetite for the country market. And Ed Sheeran, you know, has done some collaborations with

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Luke Combs, and he loves country music. He's talked about coming to record a record here.

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He has cuts with Tim McGraw and Faith Hill himself as a songwriter. So there's a song by

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Brantley Gilbert, which might have been his first hit. And I love that song. And I think it's so

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true. It's Country Must Be Countrywide. And I would even amend it to say Country Must Be Worldwide,

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because I think once people give it a chance, I think country is what rock used to be 40 years

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ago. You know, Tom Petty, the Eagles, Jackson Brown, all that stuff. But then you also had stuff

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like the Beach Boys and all the way to like harder stuff, maybe like ACDC and even up to metal and

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Metallica. Country is this like foundation that a lot of other genres are playing around in.

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And you can add different like sub genres of country. Like Sam Hunt is country as is George

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Strait, but they are not the same kinds of country. But they can both exist and they both have fans

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that call themselves country music fans. Fans that can like both or maybe just like one of them.

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And I just think there's this great ability to honor its roots and also widen its appeal,

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that country, the space that it's in right now. So it's kind of a long-winded answer to your

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to your question, but in agreeing with your statement rather, agreeing with you.

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Well, just like you said, that's a great quote. And a good song is just a good song. And we live

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in a really diversified culture much more so than the country music scene in the 1990s.

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Yes. Which seems like not that long ago, kind of was, but it was. Yeah.

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There's a lot more opportunity to reach different types of people with your music.

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And people are curious and they've got access and they're on Spotify and they can accidentally

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stumble upon something. And if it's a good song, you know, you just might grab somebody who wasn't

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an easy mark for your sound. And I see that in some of, you know, I might be jumping ahead a

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little bit here, but with the Salem Town project that you and Patrick Cornell have put together,

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just some of the songs, some of the themes, some of the artwork, it kind of speaks to a new audience.

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Yeah, that was a very fun project that we did. We talked about how, you know, there was Bro Country

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and all these different kinds of country. We kind of called it Beat Country because we were,

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it was sort of Patrick's idea initially to kind of fuse these EDM kind of dance elements and

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electronic elements and even more poppier elements with country music that I hadn't even

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thought about going that far. And doing it in a duo was kind of like a safe way to be able to do

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that separately from my solo project. And I learned a lot from it. It was a really great

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experience and love the songs that we made and put out. It's stuff that I might have never done

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as myself, but helped me grow a lot as a writer and an artist. And I think when I describe Salem

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Town to people, I basically say like it's chain smokers if they did country music. So that's,

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I think it's another example of the kind of diversity sonically that you can have in country

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music, but it still feels like country and it's the lyrics certainly and the vocal delivery,

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but it can be dressed up in a lot of different ways. Now I want to talk about some of your solo

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material which you're here to promote. And the new single is We Went South. Folks go on Spotify,

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go on Apple Music, download it. Trust me on this one, download one Dan Harrison track. And when you

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hear one, you're going to want to hear them all. Dan, one thing about We Went South, and I could

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kind of carve this up a lot of different ways, but I did go back and listen to the back catalog and

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I see some real growth. The Dan Harrison package, I guess. What you have on display in the video

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and We Went South is just a guy, in my opinion, that has kind of that every guy appeal. You look

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like you're having fun. Your music, I feel like it taps into a feeling, an emotion, connects people

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with places and memories. Talk a little bit about where you were on your writing and recording,

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no where bar, running out of radio, and then flash forward to the new stuff. Well, the reality is,

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is that stuff is, it might be new to your ears in terms of the recording and being out there,

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but it's not actually, it was kind of written around a similar time. I think I wrote We Went

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South in 2021, it was early 2021, but some of the songs on the project of which We Went South is a

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part, I'm putting out a bunch of new music over the next year that that song was the first single

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from, was written as early as 2019, kind of around the time that that other stuff was put out. All

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of this stuff has, I moved to Nashville in April 2018, so everything has been written since I moved

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here, but some of the stuff that's coming out is fairly, I should say, it's not old, but it's not

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like recently written. And so that's just the kind of the funny thing with music that sometimes

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things take a while to get out. Sometimes they happen, it happens pretty quickly. But in terms

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of the process, I mean, the goal, I love writing and I love telling stories. I love, and to me,

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it's always been the best way to communicate my thoughts and expressions and emotions in a way

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that can connect to people, because people's attention spans are short, and I just love the

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way music has this capacity to heighten the message or an emotion that you want to convey.

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And it can really hit people in a way that they might not have really processed otherwise,

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if someone just told it to them or they saw it through some other medium.

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And now the side note is that sometimes you can hear a song in the wrong context and it won't hit

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you and then you hear it again another time, like later in the day or something, or at a show and

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you're like, whoa, that song's amazing. And you realize you'd heard it earlier, but that's another

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piece. But yeah, so We Went South was just me wanting to tell my story. I mean, this project,

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the goal of this project was to have some songs that kind of talked about who I am and how I got

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to where I was. So that song, that's an expression, we went south or things went south. Usually that's

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a negative thing. But I kind of wanted to turn that on its head and talk about the story of what

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got me to Nashville. I tried to avoid using specific music industry or rock star musician

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imagery and language, because I find that those songs can sometimes pigeonhole you and people

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can't always relate to, they just seem cheesy. But I think everyone can, not that there isn't a

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place, time and place for certain songs like that. But I think this song needed to be bigger than

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that. And so we couched it and people, everyone's had to move somewhere for a fresh start or chase

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a dream. And, you know, we're like taking a leap of faith. And that's kind of what that song was

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about. And I knew like two people here when I moved here. And I slept on a friend's couch for

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the first two weeks and, you know, didn't know anything. And not that I know everything now,

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but I know five years worth more worth of things. And it's just amazing to see when I look back on

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what I've done in the last five years, and just gets me really excited about what I'm going to do

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in the next five. So I love the theme of the song, because 10 years ago, I took a shot, I moved to

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Pensacola, Florida. And I didn't know anybody except you went south to I went south to you.

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And, you know, I just I maybe knew my girlfriend's friend, and then the guy that she was dating,

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and then I didn't know anybody after we broke up. And, but it was all good. So I really like the

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theme of this song. I like how descriptive that your story is. And one of the lines that sticks

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out to me is didn't want to waste any more time. People can relate to that where they've been

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sitting on an idea, whether man, I want to move to Nashville, man, I really want to move

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to Atlanta, I got friends in Atlanta, or like me down to the Gulf Coast. And you feel like you've

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spent five or six years chewing on it. Just want to tell my listeners, if you've got that bug in

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your ear, or you you've got that dream, go follow it. It's never too late, even if you're 2535 or

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45. Yeah, it's definitely never too late. And it's never going to go away until you until you do it.

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I think in our first couple messages with each other, I told you the songs that I liked, and

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the nowhere bar track in particular, and the video. The video is just a blast. Take me through, I

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wanted to ask you a question as far as making videos. It looks like you're having fun. It must

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be a lot of work. Are you having as much fun as it looks like? Yeah, I think I think I am in the

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moment. Sometimes it can be stressful because you want to make sure you get the shot or you're not

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running out of daylight. And, and so you know, I'm not I'm not a trained actor, although I definitely

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that definitely is in my family. And I want to take some acting classes, I think. But it's

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definitely a lot. It's always fun. It's especially when you have friends there. That was the funnest

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part about the nowhere bar videos. I had a lot of friends there, you know, kind of in the crowd in

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the bar scene. So yeah, we made it look like it was at night because you know, this were the way

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the sun was. But it was it was actually really early in the morning because I was the bar before

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anyone was in. So it was we were all very tired. But it was it was a fun time. So yeah, it's making

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those are always fun, especially when you have a fun concept behind it. Everybody can be brought

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back to that moment, you know, whether it happened last weekend, and you're wondering what happened,

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if you should have said something different to that girl that you met or what, or if it happened

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10 years ago, everybody's got an experience like that. Well, that was the hope. And I appreciate

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that. That was, it's funny that that video was made and so DIY and four or five years ago, and I'm

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proud of it. But it's just to see the growth is fun, too. It's one I very look back on it very

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fondly. And but also, it's a very clear metric of like how how far I've come and still am going,

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I think, in a good way. Exactly. And you put that head to head with We Went South or crazy about

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country, crazy about country. I really like this song, Dan, I play drums. And one of the first

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things I noticed was, my gosh, listen that drum sound. Yeah, that's all my producer or the producer

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of that song, Robbie. He's killer, man. I mean, my co writing my co writers, other co writers on that

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song, Adam sick learn at least you low, they help with production as well. So that's that's I got

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to give them credit for that they found the right sounds and Robbie put it all together and mixed

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it too and just made it really hit and sound great. Some of the lyrics to this is where I feel like I

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can connect a little bit with your story. I didn't grow up listening to country music. So some of

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these lyrics speak to me. Sometimes it takes a girlfriend or accidentally hearing something to

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get into the genre. I just happened to be in a workplace where two guys were playing Pandora

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all day long. And it was it was only Kenny Chesney channel or Jason Aldean or Eric Church station or

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something like that. And so I was kind of force fed a lot of this music the first week. And then

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I finally I don't know what song it was. It may have been Zack Brown band, it may have been

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something like knee deep, because I do like Jimmy Buffett. I thought, okay, that's all right. And

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then I just, you know, it just got into my diet a little bit more. And I started to listen a little

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deeper to the music. And that was a big turning point for me, where I realized, you don't have to

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box yourself in to just rock, just hip hop, that sort of thing. So yeah, what did you kind of have

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that in mind right in this song? Well, again, you know, this this song I put out in March, and it

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was, I kind of consider it sort of like the sister song or the part that B side to to know her bar

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both sonically and kind of in story in some ways. But it was just again, telling the story about how

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I kind of got into country music. And it was because of a girl. And that was definitely

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the goal to show like, hey, like, yeah, this is not what I started with. But I really connected

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with it. And here's why. And so hopefully that I got that across. But there's obviously like other

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other musical influences in there, too. The biggest key for me, whatever I'm doing is authenticity.

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And I'm never going to pretend to be something I'm not. I love country music. And I'm a fan. And

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I'm a country music artist. That doesn't mean I was born on a farm raised on a farm, anything

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like that. And, and I and I'm very clear about that. So hopefully that's clear. But but the the

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passion and, and sort of intensity of, of how much I care about the genre is still clear. And you

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don't have to have been born and raised on a farm or, you know, to appreciate and relate to country

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music. Absolutely. Like we were saying earlier, it's okay to step in, even though your last memory

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of trying out country music didn't go so well, or you didn't feel like you fit in. Give it another

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shot. If you're listening to this episode, look up Dan's catalog. Dan, one one other thing I wanted

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to mention here is that you do have songwriting credits. All Hat No Cowboy by Bells. Talk about

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that one a little bit. That's got what 4 million downloads? Yeah, it's got it went viral on TikTok

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big time for her for Kelly and her project. And that was a super fun song to write. That was just

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one of those songs that came together pretty quickly. In the room, I wrote it with actually

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my producer and who produced all the stuff we went south and all the stuff that's coming out. And he

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also wrote No War Bar with me back in the day. And it was just a lot of fun. It was me, him and Kelly

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who's Bells and was actually on zoom. It was during the pandemic. And that was our first write

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together. I had never met Kelly in person, but I'd obviously known Andrew for a while. And we got

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set up on the right. And I think we, Andrew and I had talked about this idea at some point before,

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and she just liked it and thought it was funny because we were just talking about how I had just

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mentioned earlier in this conversation, in our conversation that about authenticity,

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because of the tourist kind of thing here that Nashville has now is big business. And you know,

399
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a lot you can you can tell tourists a mile away if they're most of the time if they're wearing,

400
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you know, cowboy hat and just really overt kind of like country apparel and or they're on Broadway

401
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and matching stuff like so there's a lot of like counterfeit cowboy like I like to call it. And

402
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that's kind of what that song was about was just calling out is meant to be fun and lighthearted.

403
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It's not really like bad to do that. But just to show that there's a difference. The boots don't

404
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make the man as they say, which is another song title that I've written. But that was yeah, that

405
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was kind of idea and we just kind of came together pretty quickly in the session. And it was a ton of

406
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fun and Kelly killed it song song sounds great. And it's been a very big song for her in terms

407
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of the doors. It's open and we're very thankful for that. Well, Dan, when you're spending a few

408
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years writing these songs, recording these songs, putting a lot of your heart and soul into it,

409
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what are what are some things that you do day to day week to week to just keep your head in the

410
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game? You know, you haven't blown up across the globe yet. And you've got high aspirations,

411
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,800
big dreams. Do you have to keep yourself motivated or you just you know, hey, man,

412
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I'm having fun doing this and whatever happens next is great. It's a bit of both. I mean,

413
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I like to say my worst day in Nashville better than my best day anywhere else,

414
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which is true. But that doesn't mean there's still aren't fun things or you know,

415
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there's always there's always tough things even when you're even if you're chasing your

416
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dream or in your dream job, there's stuff that isn't fun. And sometimes you can get overwhelmed.

417
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,440
You know, when I first started moving here, when I first moved here, I was writing two and three

418
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times a day, you know, we take about anywhere from two to four hours for a writing session. So do the

419
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math. You know, part of that's like the 10,000 hours, you know, you got to put in the time and

420
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I only written like maybe less than a dozen songs before I moved to town. It's just not something I

421
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thought about or did. I knew that's why I moved here. I knew I need to be the best artist I could

422
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be I needed to be the best songwriter I could be. And I just hadn't found my voice literally and

423
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:52,040
figuratively. Because I just didn't it's just not the culture and the thing that I was surrounded

424
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:57,400
by and even knew about. It was amazing to get to get the opportunity to kind of like workshop and

425
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:02,520
put in all those hours. But eventually got to a point where I was getting burned out and you got

426
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to be like, hey, like, I love writing, I'm always gonna do that. But I can still write one song a

427
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day. Sometimes I want and you know what, sometimes I don't have to write a song like that day.

428
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They're like today I didn't write a song I did other things that were also beneficial and

429
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:19,800
important to my music career. Like, if I was just pursuing songwriting, that'd be one thing. But

430
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:24,440
I'm also trying to put out music under an artist project. And you know, I play guitar for other

431
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:29,480
artists as well. And there's time for social media time for learning the songs and acting like

432
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:34,920
practicing like, there's a lot of things that that I need to be doing the music also and songwriting

433
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:40,360
is an amazing thing. But if I don't give myself space from it, when I need to, it can feel like

434
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,520
a chore and I don't ever want it to feel like a chore. There's sometimes it's just kind of

435
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:49,480
unavoidable. But this is my passion is my dreams what I love. So I want to show up to work every

436
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:55,880
day quote unquote, excited and I would say 99.9% of the time I am it's just you have to and for

437
00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:00,280
everyone is different. I know some friends of mine who are killing it and they and they write two and

438
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,120
three times a day and they love it. And that's just what they do. And it is all different. But

439
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,360
some of the greatest songwriters I've ever heard and know and they have huge cuts and big number

440
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:13,400
ones. They only write a couple times a week, you know, and maybe they like early on had really

441
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front loaded and did a lot. But you know, it kind of just depends on what works for you. And for me,

442
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:23,000
I just realized that like, I need to have balance if I'm not like sleeping and not doing other

443
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:28,120
things I enjoy in my life that actually also feed the well for ideas for me to write, you know,

444
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:33,640
nothing gets me more excited when I come up with an idea that I'm really excited to go right,

445
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because then that just takes care of the inspiration, the vibe right away, the hardest part of the song

446
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is getting it started. But if you're like, oh, I just killer idea, this is how we can do it. Like

447
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:47,720
I'm hearing this melody blah, blah, blah, that just takes so much of the work out of the way and the

448
00:35:47,720 --> 00:35:52,920
effort and it's still a process to execute the song. But that's, we all want that inspiration.

449
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And it's a balance of showing up to work every day. So you're keeping fresh for when inspiration

450
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:03,240
hits and sharp, but also not dulling yourself by kind of just hammering it too much. So I think

451
00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:09,480
it's a bit of both for me is the long the short answer to to your question. So I love what I do.

452
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I'm so blessed that I get to do it. And I hope to continue to keep growing it and get to a higher

453
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and higher level so I don't have to do anything else to, you know, to live that I can just do this.

454
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And I think that was a great way of putting it where you got to be careful with your craft and

455
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what you love, because you just don't want it to start feeling like work, never want that. And

456
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and so I really try and especially as I've gotten older, it's like, want to be able to enjoy life,

457
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exercise, sleep, you know, socialize. It's all it is all it all goes together. It really does.

458
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It feeds the well for inspiration and creativity. You know, that's and sometimes on these episodes,

459
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I will I'll kind of hit on a very general theme. Like you just said, sleep. I think sometimes

460
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people who are going after something and they're just they're just hard workers in general, type A

461
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and they feel like I can stay up till two in the morning and get back up at five. I can go

462
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go for a run and then I could do this. And you might be able to do that for a little while,

463
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but you may not be at your creative best. So I like it. We said they're probably trying to pay

464
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attention to what you eat a little bit. Trying. Yeah. And that that that's obviously tricky.

465
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And if you're on a budget and certainly when you're on the road, like that's the biggest thing that

466
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I've I've been I haven't been on the road for a super sustained period of time, but I've done a

467
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:32,600
bunch of different runs with other bands and for you know, like just one off gigs. And it's really

468
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hard to like maintain routine when you're on the road like that. And it's critical to find the

469
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things that work for you and not eat. And it's really easy to eat terribly too. So that's that's

470
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super important. Yeah, that was I was going to ask about that with have you had friends that stay on

471
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the road for a few months, they come back and you don't want to say anything to them, but you're

472
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:58,920
like, man, you kind of look look a little rough there. Or, or I mean, that I can think of in a

473
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super noticeable way yet. But like, I just know what they tell me. And they're just exhausted. And

474
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that's the reality. Like touring is a really great thing. But it's so hard, it is probably the

475
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,240
hardest thing to do. And it's sort of the last piece of the puzzle in terms of artist development,

476
00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:22,680
like to be able to go on tour and have a an enterprise that has the logistics in place, and

477
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:28,520
you know, the financial durability and that there's enough money coming in and going out to be able to

478
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put on something like that. There's just so many moving pieces and to do it right, you know, there's

479
00:38:33,720 --> 00:38:38,840
plenty of bands just like kind of go by the skin of their teeth. And it's about exposure, but that's

480
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:43,960
not really the world we live in anymore. Like, of course, if you get on like a big tour as an opener,

481
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:50,040
like that's cool. But it's I think it's important to be strategic whenever you can not not in terms

482
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:54,440
of, you know, so much so that there's decision paralysis, or you overanalyze everything. But

483
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,800
I've thought about that myself a lot, which is, you know, why I've tried to be careful with,

484
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:05,800
with shows and and and part of it is also like, like you said, I haven't hit it yet. And it's

485
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:10,680
easier to sell tickets when you have things people want to come see you. So but yeah, that's it's a

486
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:15,320
balance either way, whatever level you're at, if you're kind of like trying to break in, or if

487
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,320
you're at a Morgan Wallen, Luke Combs, whatever kind of level, there's still balance and things

488
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:24,120
you got to do to keep your sanity when you're on the road for that long and stay healthy,

489
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:29,960
because it's it's not easy. Well, like I said earlier, as far as just trying to reach a broader

490
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:37,080
audience, and I've I've connected with the songs, I want to re emphasize, I'm not just saying this,

491
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because it's another Dan on the show. And I just I'm gonna love whatever you do. Folks, when I when

492
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:48,600
I started playing these songs, I had an instant connection to them. And I was talking to Dan

493
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:53,960
earlier, before we got started about the some of the guitar licks and nowhere bar. And I'm thinking,

494
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,400
they didn't really have to do that. That was kind of cool. That was a little cool little accent

495
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there. And it just and then I went back and watched the videos. And I encourage everybody,

496
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if you find a song you like, whether it's crazy about country, or we went south, pair it up

497
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:12,120
with the video, and you're gonna be wanting to hear some new music from Dan, I think Dan,

498
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:17,640
you got the goods. And I hope that this episode helps you reach a few more people

499
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:23,560
from across the country, maybe some people that don't even live in a hotbed area for this type

500
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:29,320
of music. And but they've realized, I kind of like some of this stuff. Follow that feeling,

501
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:34,280
lean into that. This is me speaking to the listeners. But Dan, we've been talking for a

502
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:38,280
while, we could go on and on, I don't want to tie you up all night. And I would love to see you

503
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:44,200
perform live. But I understand it is a unique challenge this day and age to pull that off.

504
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:50,280
It's not impossible. And I play shows all the time in town. It's definitely not possible. It's just

505
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to do you know, a tour is different from from a show, if that makes sense. But I you know,

506
00:40:55,480 --> 00:41:00,920
yeah, if you're ever in Nashville, let me know. And obviously, you know, if I'm announcing stuff

507
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,760
outside, you know, going on the road, you will definitely see and whoever follows me on social

508
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:11,000
media will see. Now I saw that you guys did play a festival this past summer, the Barefoot Country

509
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Music Fest. Correct, correct. Yeah, that was that was great. Because that was back in my hometown.

510
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Well, near near Philly, it was at the Jersey Shore. So pretty much a hometown show. And it was it was

511
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:25,160
really awesome. That I mean, that's a whole that's, you know, flying out there and getting all that

512
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:30,040
taken care of. So it's it's it's an endeavor, but it's obviously worth it. And to have family and

513
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:34,680
friends come see me and it was it was great. Okay, Dan. Well, hey, I'll always wrap up with

514
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:41,640
just some off the wall questions. Sure. Okay. Being from Philadelphia, are you rooting for the

515
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:46,840
Phillies in the playoffs? Of course, I just heard that they were in the wild card recently. I,

516
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,640
you know, haven't been keeping up with it much this season. But I'm very glad, obviously. I mean,

517
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,080
hopefully we can win some kind of championship this year. We were in the World Series last year

518
00:41:55,080 --> 00:42:00,120
and the MLS finals and the Super Bowl, and we didn't win a single thing. So that's always

519
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:05,240
heartbreaking. Feel like Philly sports were always like in the mix. And every now and then we get it,

520
00:42:05,240 --> 00:42:11,240
but not as much as we should. How do you feel about Travis Kelsey? I guess he and Taylor are a pair.

521
00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:14,440
Yeah, I mean, good for him. But I wish I wish he was dating his brother. So the Eagles were getting

522
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:21,560
that effect. I saw somewhere, Mark Cuban, like, sit like, I think posted on Twitter online,

523
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,800
someone sent to me and said, Hey, you know, Taylor, whenever you guys break up, I got a lot of handsome

524
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:31,800
single rich guys on the Mavericks for you. So because he owns the Dallas Mavericks. And but no,

525
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:38,920
I think it's amazing. You know, we love her hater, you know, her her power is undeniable. And it's

526
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:43,320
really, really incredible. And if I could even have a fraction of that, it's not about fame,

527
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:48,440
it's just a fraction of that sort of influence. And, you know, people listen, listening to what

528
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:54,600
I do is in wanting to hear my music, that would be incredible. Well, I think that you'll get there,

529
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:59,320
I really do. I think it's just a matter of probably if somebody speaking up for you,

530
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:04,600
and introducing you another musician saying, Hey, all you guys who listen to me, you need to check

531
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:12,120
out Dan Harrison, I keep returning to you giving what I would say clearance to guys and girls who

532
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:18,280
didn't grow up listening to country. And then on top of that, you've got an office authenticity

533
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:23,560
that comes across in your songwriting and in the videos. I appreciate it, man. That means a lot in

534
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:29,800
because that's certainly the intention. Okay, Dan favorite ice cream flavor, probably cookies and

535
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:35,000
cream. But I find myself having vanilla or mint, one of those two mint chocolate chip. But I find

536
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:39,480
myself having vanilla a lot just because it's a really good base for you know, if you want to

537
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:44,520
mix it with anything. Dan, did you ever have a gerbil? Did you ever have a guinea pig? Did you

538
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:50,280
ever have a little a little turtle or mouse or something? I did have two turtles actually,

539
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:55,720
at one point, I don't remember why I got them or when it was I like had to been kindergarten,

540
00:43:55,720 --> 00:44:02,920
first grade. They were and I remember they were named Bob and David and very creative names, and

541
00:44:03,720 --> 00:44:10,120
they died at some point. I don't remember why or what I think I fed them. So they're very,

542
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:15,160
very tiny though. I had a hamster one time and I came back from vacation. We were gone for a week.

543
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:22,520
I came back and my dog had had eaten it. Oh my gosh, that yeah. Whoa, that was not nice. That was

544
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:30,600
I don't like that. Dan, what's something you like to watch when you're just trying to decompress

545
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:35,160
and you're like, all right, I'm gonna put something on the rest of development. That's like I've seen

546
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:39,720
that so many times. So in terms of something to like throw on that I don't need to think too hard

547
00:44:39,720 --> 00:44:44,920
about and I can kind of come in and out of definitely something like that or like a family guy

548
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:49,720
or South Park comedy shows like that. But I'm a big Star Wars guy too. So I love throwing on

549
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:56,520
any of those things. And I'm kind of in the midst of watching Clone Wars and Rebels and all those

550
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:00,760
all those things, all the animated stuff from the expanded universe that I actually didn't watch.

551
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:05,320
Like I always loved Star Wars and watched all the movies, but I never, I just never got into the

552
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:09,800
and I just didn't like the CGI I think when it first came out. But I like once you get used to

553
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:14,840
it and it's really great stuff and a lot of the stuff that they're putting out is kind of now is

554
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:19,880
kind of inspired by that era. So like the Ahsoka show that's out right now. So it's cool to dive

555
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:24,920
back into that and kind of get the backstory. Well, Dan, this has been terrific. I got a bunch

556
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:29,880
of other questions, but we'll save it for another time. Would you come back on the show long after

557
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:36,120
you've made it to the top and left this episode in the dust? Would you still remember Dan time?

558
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:40,280
Oh, I'd love to. Yeah. And I hope you're one of the you're right up there with Joe Rogan by that

559
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:44,920
time. Yeah, absolutely. I'd love to. All right. Well, thanks for making time here, Dan. This has

560
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:50,600
been a pleasure. And folks, remember, if you're in a rut, you feel like there's something bigger

561
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:55,720
out there for you. If you feel like you've been in this town long enough and it's you're tired of

562
00:45:55,720 --> 00:46:02,760
the cold, you're tired of the snow and you see go put a plan together and get out. If you just want

563
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:08,520
to move across town, if you want to leave that dead end job, stop thinking about it. Do it. Dan,

564
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:13,400
I wish you nothing but the best. I wish you all the success in the world. And thanks for appearing

565
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:19,160
on the show. I appreciate you having me. I do. Thank you. All right. Anything else you'd like to

566
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:24,520
plug? I didn't mention the website, but I will link it any podcast or anything you'd like to plug

567
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:29,320
as far as Dan here is the music. I'm putting out another new song in a couple of weeks. I haven't

568
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,520
announced it yet, but I'm going to be announcing it very soon. I think by the time I don't know

569
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:38,280
when you'll have this podcast out, but it might already be out or at least announced. It's called

570
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:44,520
So Far So Good. And it's another song that's kind of about my story. Yeah. So I'm putting that out

571
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,040
soon and I got a bunch of new music coming out next year as well. I'm really excited about and

572
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:54,200
just keeping keeping the train rolling and hopefully snowballing everything. Full steam ahead.

573
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:59,960
Yeah. All right. Well, you guys have a great week and we will see you next Sunday on Dan Time.

574
00:46:59,960 --> 00:47:01,000
All right. Thank you so much.

575
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well. I appreciate a five star review, but hey, what really helps the show is just you talking

580
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:39,240
about it. Talk about it with your friends, your coworkers, send a group text to people you know,

581
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and I really appreciate your support. Thanks and have a great week.

