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I'm your host, 00:01:19.250 --> 00:01:22.170 Amanda Radke, an American cattle rancher and 00:01:22.170 --> 00:01:24.930 motivational speaker raising my kids and writing 00:01:24.930 --> 00:01:28.209 children's books in South Dakota. There's a David 00:01:28.209 --> 00:01:31.109 and Goliath story unfolding in agriculture today. 00:01:31.469 --> 00:01:34.090 And I don't know about you, but my money is on 00:01:34.090 --> 00:01:37.209 the underdog. The hardworking folks who value 00:01:37.209 --> 00:01:40.269 faith, family, freedom, and their farming communities. 00:01:40.799 --> 00:01:43.700 This show will highlight the untold stories of 00:01:43.700 --> 00:01:46.680 these resilient and determined families who I 00:01:46.680 --> 00:01:49.079 have the great pleasure of meeting in my travels 00:01:49.079 --> 00:01:51.799 across this nation as an agricultural speaker. 00:01:52.400 --> 00:01:54.859 It is my hope that their stories will remind 00:01:54.859 --> 00:01:57.879 us to live with great courage because we are 00:01:57.879 --> 00:02:00.799 not alone in this fight to keep producers on 00:02:00.799 --> 00:02:03.540 the land and meet dairy and eggs on the dinner 00:02:03.540 --> 00:02:06.140 table. Now let's hit the dusty trail together 00:02:06.140 --> 00:02:15.580 as we uncover the heart of rural America. Welcome 00:02:15.580 --> 00:02:19.319 to your show. Here's my mom, Amanda Radke. Hey 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:21.419 everybody, Amanda Radke, part of Roll America 00:02:21.419 --> 00:02:23.819 podcast, the show where we highlight great people 00:02:23.819 --> 00:02:26.039 doing inspiring things in their rural communities 00:02:26.039 --> 00:02:29.000 to make agriculture and this country stronger. 00:02:29.439 --> 00:02:31.740 Today's guest. know him and love him. He's been 00:02:31.740 --> 00:02:34.819 on the show many times. Senator Mark Lockie of 00:02:34.819 --> 00:02:38.300 Leola, South Dakota is back in here for the 2026 00:02:38.300 --> 00:02:40.560 legislative session with some important dates 00:02:40.560 --> 00:02:43.560 on bills that he'll be advancing forward to fortify 00:02:43.560 --> 00:02:47.199 your property rights for this year and for generations 00:02:47.199 --> 00:02:49.479 to come. Senator, welcome back to the show. Well, 00:02:49.479 --> 00:02:51.159 thanks for having me back again, Amanda. It's 00:02:51.159 --> 00:02:53.240 great to be here. We had just got off of our 00:02:53.240 --> 00:02:55.520 first week of session. We hit the ground running 00:02:55.520 --> 00:02:58.180 with a rally beginning on Monday that we announced 00:02:58.180 --> 00:03:00.009 some pretty exciting legislation. that we're 00:03:00.009 --> 00:03:02.229 going to be talking about today. Now, the rally, 00:03:02.449 --> 00:03:05.370 man, Dakota News now described it as bigger and 00:03:05.370 --> 00:03:07.990 stronger than ever before with the same consistent 00:03:07.990 --> 00:03:10.310 message that we've always had, which is South 00:03:10.310 --> 00:03:12.770 Dakota may be open for business, but we're not 00:03:12.770 --> 00:03:15.750 for sale. Now talk to me about your thoughts 00:03:15.750 --> 00:03:18.550 on the rally. I mean, we had a huge crowd, tons 00:03:18.550 --> 00:03:21.250 of energy. People are motivated and activated. 00:03:21.610 --> 00:03:23.770 What did that mean to you to see so many people 00:03:23.770 --> 00:03:27.069 show up for this rally? It was quite frankly, 00:03:27.090 --> 00:03:29.949 a little bit reinvigorating. Think an interesting 00:03:29.949 --> 00:03:32.090 story. We had a rally prior to last session. 00:03:32.389 --> 00:03:34.550 And I remember telling you and Carla Lems that 00:03:34.550 --> 00:03:36.789 I said, I'm retiring from rallies. That's my 00:03:36.789 --> 00:03:39.669 last one. A lot of work goes into them. There's 00:03:39.669 --> 00:03:41.870 the constant worry about, is anybody going to 00:03:41.870 --> 00:03:44.509 come? Is the movement running out of gas? Those 00:03:44.509 --> 00:03:46.669 kinds of thoughts run through your head. And 00:03:46.669 --> 00:03:49.689 it wasn't until we came up with this exciting 00:03:49.689 --> 00:03:51.270 legislation that we're going to be discussing 00:03:51.270 --> 00:03:53.750 today that we really thought that it required 00:03:53.750 --> 00:03:57.229 it. And I was... quite frankly opposed to it 00:03:57.229 --> 00:03:59.849 at the beginning. And you talked me into it. 00:03:59.990 --> 00:04:02.110 We had another one, but I'll tell you what, walking 00:04:02.110 --> 00:04:05.069 away from that, it was just absolutely awe inspiring. 00:04:05.710 --> 00:04:07.490 Probably the biggest thing that I took away from 00:04:07.490 --> 00:04:10.310 that was all the new faces that showed up. This 00:04:10.310 --> 00:04:12.789 isn't losing gas, it's gaining steam and it's 00:04:12.789 --> 00:04:14.930 gaining steam in a major way. I think I made 00:04:14.930 --> 00:04:17.129 the mention there that this might become an annual 00:04:17.129 --> 00:04:18.870 event and I think I'm going to stick to that 00:04:18.870 --> 00:04:21.089 because people are excited to come and take part 00:04:21.089 --> 00:04:22.810 in our government. I had told you last year when 00:04:22.810 --> 00:04:24.449 you said, this is my last rally I'm ever going 00:04:24.449 --> 00:04:26.430 to do. And I had said at that time, well, we'll 00:04:26.430 --> 00:04:28.709 see, knowing that we might need to do another 00:04:28.709 --> 00:04:31.769 one. But yet after this year's one, I thought... 00:04:31.500 --> 00:04:33.360 I don't know if we'll ever be able to top it. 00:04:33.379 --> 00:04:35.100 So now you put the pressure on me that we're 00:04:35.100 --> 00:04:37.860 going to have to make 2027 bigger and better 00:04:37.860 --> 00:04:40.439 and more enthusiastic than even what we saw now. 00:04:40.660 --> 00:04:42.560 Would you mind sharing? You had someone mentioned 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:44.839 to you that's been in peer in government for 00:04:44.839 --> 00:04:47.000 30 plus years. What did they say to you about 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:50.360 this movement? They said that it's just an absolute 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:53.079 enigma. It's something that's never happened 00:04:53.079 --> 00:04:55.800 before. It's all the people that have always 00:04:55.800 --> 00:04:59.620 remained relatively quiet and not said anything. 00:04:59.769 --> 00:05:02.029 And not only are they saying something right 00:05:02.029 --> 00:05:04.730 now, but they're showing up. And then that keeps 00:05:04.730 --> 00:05:07.389 growing and there's more of them. It's been noted 00:05:07.389 --> 00:05:09.629 that there's never been a grassroots movement 00:05:09.629 --> 00:05:11.910 like this take place in the state of South Dakota. 00:05:12.110 --> 00:05:15.350 And I think that's just a testament to agriculture 00:05:15.350 --> 00:05:18.310 overall in South Dakota. There's nothing more 00:05:18.310 --> 00:05:21.810 important to farmers than number one, their family 00:05:21.810 --> 00:05:24.220 and number two, their land. And they're willing 00:05:24.220 --> 00:05:27.759 to do whatever it takes and it shows and it's 00:05:27.759 --> 00:05:31.060 being noticed probably more than ever and I'm 00:05:31.060 --> 00:05:33.439 optimistic that we're eventually going to straighten 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:35.759 this thing all out and everybody's going to be 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:38.379 able to go back home to work and get left alone 00:05:38.379 --> 00:05:40.279 because that's what they desire. They're willing 00:05:40.279 --> 00:05:43.420 to show up. just to be left alone. Absolutely, 00:05:43.500 --> 00:05:46.480 and you know I think there's some career politicians 00:05:46.480 --> 00:05:48.660 that kind of hoped that's what we would do after 00:05:48.660 --> 00:05:52.339 the passage of HB 1052, which was of course a 00:05:52.339 --> 00:05:55.379 nation -leading piece of legislation that officially 00:05:55.379 --> 00:05:58.319 eliminated eminent domain for CO2 pipelines. 00:05:58.420 --> 00:06:02.160 Now for the 160 family farms and ranches who 00:06:02.160 --> 00:06:05.199 had been condemned for eminent domain for a Green 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:08.019 New Deal carbon sequestration boondoggle, it 00:06:08.019 --> 00:06:10.180 was quite literally they were facing a gun to 00:06:10.180 --> 00:06:14.129 their head. So the mood was somber. It was serious. 00:06:14.129 --> 00:06:17.529 It was stressful. You could see the strain, the 00:06:17.529 --> 00:06:20.709 emotional, physical, financial toll that so many 00:06:20.709 --> 00:06:23.870 people had endured for so long. And, you know, 00:06:23.930 --> 00:06:26.209 so coming into last year's session felt a little 00:06:26.209 --> 00:06:28.750 different, right? Even after that was passed, 00:06:28.850 --> 00:06:30.629 I think that the politicians thought, well, good, 00:06:30.649 --> 00:06:32.509 they got their way. They'll go home. They'll 00:06:32.509 --> 00:06:35.389 leave us alone. And yet that threat of eminent 00:06:35.389 --> 00:06:38.189 domain, not for things like public use, like 00:06:38.189 --> 00:06:40.629 electricity and railroads, the things that we 00:06:40.629 --> 00:06:43.649 need, but the threat of eminent domain and the 00:06:43.649 --> 00:06:46.709 seizure of your land for things like economic 00:06:46.709 --> 00:06:49.610 development and increasing the tax base, it still 00:06:49.610 --> 00:06:52.529 exists in South Dakota. And so I remember thinking 00:06:52.529 --> 00:06:55.750 after 1052 was passed, man, we're still sitting 00:06:55.750 --> 00:06:58.970 ducks here on the South Dakota Prairie. Some 00:06:58.970 --> 00:07:02.029 politician somewhere could decide that my land 00:07:02.029 --> 00:07:05.360 is worth. more in someone else's hands that quite 00:07:05.360 --> 00:07:07.839 literally the land beneath our feet could still 00:07:07.839 --> 00:07:09.980 be taken. And that's why I think we saw such 00:07:09.980 --> 00:07:12.540 a huge crowd because South Dakota farmers and 00:07:12.540 --> 00:07:15.279 ranchers and landowners recognize that threat. 00:07:15.300 --> 00:07:18.439 And so I think what we're going to do next is 00:07:18.439 --> 00:07:21.920 going to unite the entire state and the entire 00:07:21.920 --> 00:07:25.300 nation is watching. And before we get into the 00:07:25.300 --> 00:07:27.300 legislative announcements that you made at the 00:07:27.300 --> 00:07:29.720 rally, I want to briefly talk about where we've 00:07:29.720 --> 00:07:32.910 been. So 2023, you have all these landowners 00:07:32.910 --> 00:07:36.889 getting condemned. And then we faced a 2024 legislative 00:07:36.889 --> 00:07:40.230 session where a bill called SB 201 was introduced. 00:07:40.550 --> 00:07:42.970 Talk to us a little bit about that bill because 00:07:42.970 --> 00:07:45.889 I know we've talked privately amongst many landowners, 00:07:45.949 --> 00:07:47.949 it might've been the best thing that's ever happened 00:07:47.949 --> 00:07:50.269 to the people of South Dakota, not because it 00:07:50.269 --> 00:07:52.670 was a good piece of legislation, but because 00:07:52.670 --> 00:07:55.370 it activated the people to get involved and get 00:07:55.370 --> 00:07:58.189 engaged. Talk to us a little bit about 201 and 00:07:58.189 --> 00:08:00.319 how we got to now. Thank you so much for joining 00:08:00.319 --> 00:08:02.860 us. It's interesting that you mentioned it might've 00:08:02.860 --> 00:08:04.399 been one of the best things that ever happened 00:08:04.399 --> 00:08:06.860 to us because that's in very fact true. It seemed 00:08:06.860 --> 00:08:09.899 like the eminent domain filings were one that 00:08:09.899 --> 00:08:12.720 captivated people. More people got involved because 00:08:12.720 --> 00:08:16.259 it was that atrocious. 201 was similar in nature 00:08:16.259 --> 00:08:19.800 and that was kind of the spark that ignited clear 00:08:19.800 --> 00:08:23.439 across the state because now you took the focus 00:08:23.439 --> 00:08:26.459 off of the pipeline route itself specifically, 00:08:26.459 --> 00:08:30.300 and you included the entire state. just because 00:08:30.300 --> 00:08:34.000 of the upheaval due to the county zoning ordinances 00:08:34.000 --> 00:08:36.899 that were being systematically put in place along 00:08:36.899 --> 00:08:39.000 the route. There was a lot of people didn't like 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:41.100 that. That didn't sit very well with the industry. 00:08:41.600 --> 00:08:44.220 And so they came to the state and were able to 00:08:44.220 --> 00:08:47.820 ramrod 201 through that the most egregious aspect 00:08:47.820 --> 00:08:50.759 of 201 was the removal of local control from 00:08:50.759 --> 00:08:53.840 the counties and the municipalities and the townships. 00:08:53.860 --> 00:08:55.980 No longer were they able to make the decisions 00:08:55.980 --> 00:08:58.759 for themselves. That all would have been centrally 00:08:58.889 --> 00:09:02.629 located within our state government. And so that 00:09:02.629 --> 00:09:05.169 led to the people getting involved, referring 00:09:05.169 --> 00:09:08.389 that law. It connected the entirety of the state 00:09:08.389 --> 00:09:11.149 corner to corner. They all worked together. They 00:09:11.149 --> 00:09:14.929 collected 38 ,000 signatures in a matter of 90 00:09:14.929 --> 00:09:17.429 days. They held the town hall meetings clear 00:09:17.429 --> 00:09:19.970 across the state. I know you and myself participated 00:09:19.970 --> 00:09:22.230 in many of them. So many great people did, Jim 00:09:22.230 --> 00:09:25.669 Eschenbaum, Ed Fischbach, Julie Alck, Carlo Lems. 00:09:26.029 --> 00:09:28.169 I mean, it was just absolutely amazing the way. 00:09:28.110 --> 00:09:29.669 the people showed up, they got in their car, 00:09:29.769 --> 00:09:32.169 they'd drive hundreds of miles to get involved. 00:09:32.710 --> 00:09:36.110 And so that led to the overturning of 201 in 00:09:36.110 --> 00:09:40.230 that election. It led to a turnover of many candidates. 00:09:40.289 --> 00:09:42.769 We changed the makeup of our legislature, which 00:09:42.769 --> 00:09:45.789 ultimately led to the passage of an unprecedented 00:09:45.789 --> 00:09:49.429 bill of its kind, 1052 last session. And so, 00:09:49.429 --> 00:09:51.370 you know, that's kind of, that gave us a lot 00:09:51.370 --> 00:09:54.190 of peace at the time. It gave a lot of people 00:09:54.190 --> 00:09:56.490 the ability to relax and go home and live their 00:09:56.490 --> 00:09:59.370 lives. But it was quick to realize that with 00:09:59.370 --> 00:10:01.690 the big, beautiful bill, when they tried to take 00:10:01.690 --> 00:10:04.210 that authority away from the States now. So it 00:10:04.210 --> 00:10:08.009 was almost like a national 201. And so that's 00:10:08.009 --> 00:10:09.690 what kind of led us to where we're going to be 00:10:09.690 --> 00:10:11.769 talking about today. And I think we're on the 00:10:11.769 --> 00:10:13.629 right path because that threat is not gone the 00:10:13.629 --> 00:10:16.720 same situation. that led to the problem with 00:10:16.720 --> 00:10:19.360 some of carbon solutions still exists today. 00:10:19.700 --> 00:10:22.759 Absolutely. And in fact, even after 1052 passed 00:10:22.759 --> 00:10:25.080 and you're having states all across the country 00:10:25.080 --> 00:10:28.159 contact you and myself and say, how did you guys 00:10:28.159 --> 00:10:30.220 do this in South Dakota? How have you pushed 00:10:30.220 --> 00:10:33.740 back against some of these projects? And so really, 00:10:33.740 --> 00:10:36.179 it should have been like a crowning moment, right, 00:10:36.179 --> 00:10:37.940 that we all could have went back to the farm 00:10:37.940 --> 00:10:40.419 and ranch and just relaxed and took a sigh of 00:10:40.419 --> 00:10:43.259 relief for one minute. And yet, like you said, 00:10:43.259 --> 00:10:45.710 the big, beautiful bill came. There was a provision 00:10:45.710 --> 00:10:47.870 within that big, beautiful bill that would have 00:10:47.870 --> 00:10:49.970 allowed for federal eminent domain authority 00:10:49.970 --> 00:10:52.529 for CO2 pipelines. 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So we made trips to Washington D .C. just 00:12:52.730 --> 00:12:55.350 as soon as we were able to secure that those 00:12:55.350 --> 00:12:57.409 lines were taken out of the big beautiful bill. 00:12:57.750 --> 00:13:00.190 Then we had Congressman Dusty Johnson come out 00:13:00.190 --> 00:13:03.870 with H .R. 4135, again, a bill that would have 00:13:03.870 --> 00:13:07.049 fast tracked given a rubber stamp, one size fits 00:13:07.049 --> 00:13:09.769 all from the federal level down for things like 00:13:09.769 --> 00:13:13.149 data centers and CO2 pipelines. And so continually 00:13:13.149 --> 00:13:16.389 we're seeing these little threats over and over 00:13:16.389 --> 00:13:19.090 again. What was the third threat we saw throughout 00:13:19.309 --> 00:13:22.509 The North Dakota Attorney General. threatened 00:13:22.509 --> 00:13:25.750 to sue in the news, the state of South Dakota 00:13:25.750 --> 00:13:29.529 over HB 1052. And I'm very thankful to our attorney 00:13:29.529 --> 00:13:31.909 general, Marty Jackley, for stopping that in 00:13:31.909 --> 00:13:34.370 its tracks. And so through all of these little 00:13:34.370 --> 00:13:37.269 fights, we realized, you know, so many of us 00:13:37.269 --> 00:13:39.909 that, man, we needed to do something in South 00:13:39.909 --> 00:13:44.029 Dakota that would officially fortify and strengthen 00:13:44.029 --> 00:13:46.990 property rights in a real and meaningful way 00:13:46.990 --> 00:13:49.230 so that things like this, the hell that we've 00:13:49.230 --> 00:13:52.220 all been through. never happens again in the 00:13:52.220 --> 00:13:54.600 state of South Dakota. So that leads me to your 00:13:54.600 --> 00:13:57.120 big announcement, Senator. You got up at the 00:13:57.120 --> 00:13:59.759 podium that day. We had a great slate of speakers 00:13:59.759 --> 00:14:02.759 from the Attorney General, Marty Jackley, to 00:14:02.759 --> 00:14:05.720 Speaker Pro Tem, Carla Lambs. We had Representative 00:14:05.720 --> 00:14:08.539 Liz May provide a statement. We had Senator Lauren 00:14:08.539 --> 00:14:12.100 Nelson and Senator Michaela Voida. We had Charles 00:14:12.100 --> 00:14:14.960 and Heather Maude, of course, who faced an egregious 00:14:14.960 --> 00:14:17.700 attack on property rights over a fence line dispute 00:14:17.700 --> 00:14:21.200 in Western South Dakota. our very own Jared Bosley, 00:14:21.360 --> 00:14:23.639 who experienced the worst of the worst when a 00:14:23.639 --> 00:14:26.460 $10 billion out -of -state foreign -backed carbon 00:14:26.460 --> 00:14:29.539 pipeline project came onto his land and invasively 00:14:29.539 --> 00:14:32.240 surveyed. Then you walked up to the podium and 00:14:32.240 --> 00:14:35.159 you announced two very important bills. Let's 00:14:35.159 --> 00:14:37.600 start with the first one, House Joint Resolution 00:14:37.600 --> 00:14:42.539 5001. What is it and what does it do? Yes, that's 00:14:42.539 --> 00:14:44.919 the two pieces that I announced. It was the house 00:14:44.919 --> 00:14:48.279 joint resolution that I'll be prime sponsor of 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:51.480 in the Senate and my district mate and a really 00:14:51.480 --> 00:14:54.200 good buddy, Spencer Gosh, representative Spencer 00:14:54.200 --> 00:14:57.259 Gosh, will be priming it in the house. And what 00:14:57.259 --> 00:15:00.100 we're going to do here is we're going to be proposing 00:15:00.100 --> 00:15:03.820 a constitutional amendment that can be put up 00:15:03.820 --> 00:15:07.340 for a vote of the people because we do not have 00:15:07.340 --> 00:15:10.179 the authority as legislators, nor should we to 00:15:10.179 --> 00:15:12.980 change the constitution. The constitution is 00:15:12.980 --> 00:15:16.559 our foundation, fundamental document that sets 00:15:16.559 --> 00:15:19.039 the baseline. It's the entire reason why we're 00:15:19.039 --> 00:15:21.820 still standing today is in fact, because of those 00:15:21.820 --> 00:15:24.779 constitutional rights. So it should not be easy 00:15:24.779 --> 00:15:27.610 to mess with, nor should you do it very aggressively. 00:15:28.090 --> 00:15:30.909 But I believe that property rights are part of 00:15:30.909 --> 00:15:33.750 our Constitution, and I think it's an appropriate 00:15:33.750 --> 00:15:37.059 manner to modernize them with the language. that 00:15:37.059 --> 00:15:39.559 will prevent what has happened to us from ever 00:15:39.559 --> 00:15:42.580 happening again. And so what that resolution 00:15:42.580 --> 00:15:46.419 will do is it will be proposed to eminent domain 00:15:46.419 --> 00:15:49.919 may not be exercised for the purpose of transferring 00:15:49.919 --> 00:15:53.279 private property to a nongovernmental entity 00:15:53.279 --> 00:15:56.940 solely to promote economic development or increase 00:15:56.940 --> 00:16:00.460 tax revenue without the provision of public use, 00:16:00.980 --> 00:16:04.809 purpose, or utility. And so what all that fancy 00:16:04.809 --> 00:16:08.470 language ultimately means is it's an end of eminent 00:16:08.470 --> 00:16:12.009 domain for private gain. It's only going to be 00:16:12.009 --> 00:16:15.529 utilized as it was originally intent by the founding 00:16:15.529 --> 00:16:20.230 fathers for public use. No more of these private 00:16:20.230 --> 00:16:23.389 projects being able to utilize it. It is not 00:16:23.389 --> 00:16:27.970 specific to CO2 pipelines. It is also inclusive 00:16:27.970 --> 00:16:31.049 of wind and solar in the aspect of they will 00:16:31.049 --> 00:16:34.350 not be able to take your land for that. It has 00:16:34.350 --> 00:16:36.750 an element to it when it involves data centers. 00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:39.539 the data center company would not be able to 00:16:39.539 --> 00:16:42.440 condemn a site for their facility. They would 00:16:42.440 --> 00:16:45.519 not be able to condemn property to put their 00:16:45.519 --> 00:16:48.779 private infrastructure in to service said facilities. 00:16:49.179 --> 00:16:52.539 This isn't just specific to rural areas and landowners 00:16:52.539 --> 00:16:55.220 and farms and ranches. This has implications 00:16:55.220 --> 00:16:58.139 within cities and urban areas as well. No longer 00:16:58.139 --> 00:17:01.299 would a row of houses be able to be taken to 00:17:01.299 --> 00:17:04.210 put up a strip mall. The big corporation next 00:17:04.210 --> 00:17:06.750 door wouldn't be able to take the mom and pop 00:17:06.750 --> 00:17:09.589 shop next door to build a parking lot. Because 00:17:09.589 --> 00:17:12.630 ultimately, if you don't have that exclusive 00:17:12.630 --> 00:17:15.609 ownership of your property, what's the incentive 00:17:15.609 --> 00:17:18.950 to go about acquiring more and building and have 00:17:18.950 --> 00:17:21.529 something to pass on? Because you got to remember 00:17:21.529 --> 00:17:23.609 at the end of the day, we're all only here for 00:17:23.609 --> 00:17:26.750 so long. And what do we all live for and strive 00:17:26.750 --> 00:17:29.710 for with our South Dakota values is to provide 00:17:29.710 --> 00:17:32.309 a better life for our children. And if we can 00:17:32.309 --> 00:17:34.210 leave them with something that they can make 00:17:34.210 --> 00:17:36.509 a better life for their family, that's our purpose 00:17:36.509 --> 00:17:39.589 for being here. And this is going to be an act 00:17:39.589 --> 00:17:43.150 that is going to help ensure that not just for 00:17:43.150 --> 00:17:46.150 now, but hopefully forever. It's incredible. 00:17:46.329 --> 00:17:50.349 I think it's such a necessary bill to bring forward 00:17:50.349 --> 00:17:53.190 or resolution because it really answers the call 00:17:53.190 --> 00:17:56.000 of the people. that many have suffered. We've 00:17:56.000 --> 00:17:58.279 heard from every corner of the state of people 00:17:58.279 --> 00:18:01.000 who are going through something similar and they're 00:18:01.000 --> 00:18:03.779 not against projects, they're not against business, 00:18:04.039 --> 00:18:06.440 but they want to have a say in their local communities 00:18:06.440 --> 00:18:08.900 about where things go. They don't think it's 00:18:08.900 --> 00:18:11.140 appropriate for these big billion dollar corporations 00:18:11.140 --> 00:18:14.039 to get the red carpet rolled out at the expense 00:18:14.039 --> 00:18:17.980 of themselves via their taxes or their land and 00:18:17.980 --> 00:18:21.630 they just want to say to be able to firmly say 00:18:21.630 --> 00:18:24.109 yes or no, thank you. Yes, I want to participate 00:18:24.109 --> 00:18:26.930 in project. No, thank you. So a few questions 00:18:26.930 --> 00:18:29.029 I've gotten, I'm sure you've gotten the most 00:18:29.029 --> 00:18:31.230 common question I've gotten is what's the difference 00:18:31.230 --> 00:18:33.569 between public use and public benefit? Because 00:18:33.569 --> 00:18:35.509 we're talking about two different things here. 00:18:35.650 --> 00:18:38.009 I think when the founding fathers had established 00:18:38.009 --> 00:18:40.930 that, yes, number one, property rights are God 00:18:40.930 --> 00:18:43.029 given and they should be protected under the 00:18:43.029 --> 00:18:45.690 Constitution, they had no idea that there would 00:18:45.690 --> 00:18:48.609 be things like data center infrastructure build 00:18:48.609 --> 00:18:50.900 outs that people would have to think about. So 00:18:50.900 --> 00:18:53.700 talk about what isn't included in this bill and 00:18:53.700 --> 00:18:55.799 what would be excluded, I guess would be a better 00:18:55.799 --> 00:18:57.640 way to answer it. Public use, public benefit. 00:18:58.170 --> 00:19:01.230 So when you're talking about public use, probably 00:19:01.230 --> 00:19:04.130 the best example that I can give is the interstate 00:19:04.130 --> 00:19:07.529 system. That is readily available for every American 00:19:07.529 --> 00:19:11.369 to utilize and use on a daily basis. You can 00:19:11.369 --> 00:19:14.690 either travel freely down it yourself, or the 00:19:14.690 --> 00:19:17.349 argument can be made that everything, the food 00:19:17.349 --> 00:19:19.849 in your refrigerator, the clothes on your back. 00:19:20.220 --> 00:19:23.059 travel down that interstate system that you can 00:19:23.059 --> 00:19:25.299 purchase at a store. I mean, it's absolutely 00:19:25.299 --> 00:19:28.319 imperative that we have that for our society. 00:19:28.880 --> 00:19:31.240 That is the best clear -cut case of public use 00:19:31.240 --> 00:19:35.160 that I can give. Now, a public benefit. This 00:19:35.160 --> 00:19:37.559 all stems from the Kelo versus New London ruling 00:19:37.559 --> 00:19:42.740 from 2005 that a public benefit was the term 00:19:42.740 --> 00:19:45.660 that they allotted to a raising of the tax base. 00:19:46.059 --> 00:19:49.720 Because if you have more money in the tax coffers, 00:19:49.900 --> 00:19:53.200 you're able to build more roads, have better 00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:56.119 funding for public safety and things of that 00:19:56.119 --> 00:20:00.140 nature. However. That's not a public use, but 00:20:00.140 --> 00:20:02.920 they claimed that beings, it was a public benefit. 00:20:02.920 --> 00:20:06.859 It qualified as a public use. Now also it was 00:20:06.859 --> 00:20:09.039 a split decision in the Kelo versus New London 00:20:09.039 --> 00:20:12.240 ruling at five to four. And it also, there was 00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:14.619 a paragraph in there that allows for states to 00:20:14.619 --> 00:20:18.660 put more stringent regulations in place. And 00:20:18.660 --> 00:20:21.680 so there are other states that about 20 years 00:20:21.680 --> 00:20:24.700 ago put similar language to this and it has never 00:20:24.700 --> 00:20:28.750 been challenged. And so. The public benefit just 00:20:28.750 --> 00:20:32.250 does not hold water. the words in the Constitution 00:20:32.250 --> 00:20:36.230 themselves were for public use. Now, you guys 00:20:36.230 --> 00:20:38.289 have heard me mention this on the show, but that 00:20:38.289 --> 00:20:40.309 Kelo versus New London case, if you want to learn 00:20:40.309 --> 00:20:42.849 more about it, go watch The Little Pink House 00:20:42.849 --> 00:20:45.809 on Amazon Prime. It's a free movie, but it's 00:20:45.809 --> 00:20:48.109 based on the true story of a woman who lived 00:20:48.109 --> 00:20:51.509 in a lower class, I would say, community, and 00:20:51.509 --> 00:20:55.109 a Pfizer company wanted to come and build a manufacturing 00:20:55.109 --> 00:20:57.869 facility in that community. And this woman lived 00:20:57.869 --> 00:21:00.750 in a little pink house in town. That was her 00:21:00.750 --> 00:21:02.670 piece of the American dream. That was her home 00:21:02.670 --> 00:21:05.609 where she slept at night. And it was seized through 00:21:05.609 --> 00:21:08.210 eminent domain. And ultimately, they didn't even 00:21:08.210 --> 00:21:11.170 end up building. the project. And so whether 00:21:11.170 --> 00:21:14.190 you live in the middle of city limits in Sioux 00:21:14.190 --> 00:21:16.410 Falls, South Dakota, or you have a section of 00:21:16.410 --> 00:21:19.650 ground out in Union Center, the reality is that 00:21:19.650 --> 00:21:22.910 the use of eminent domain has been politicized 00:21:22.910 --> 00:21:26.809 and distorted over time. And so what 5001 seeks 00:21:26.809 --> 00:21:30.049 to do is not really change the Constitution, 00:21:30.369 --> 00:21:33.809 but to fortify what's already in the Constitution 00:21:33.809 --> 00:21:36.970 that has been diluted over time. So tell us the 00:21:36.970 --> 00:21:39.960 process. Do we need the governor? How does this 00:21:39.960 --> 00:21:42.680 get to the ballot? The way that this gets to 00:21:42.680 --> 00:21:45.740 the ballot is representative gosh will be carrying 00:21:45.740 --> 00:21:48.180 this bill in the House of Representatives. It 00:21:48.180 --> 00:21:50.299 will be going through the House State Affairs 00:21:50.299 --> 00:21:52.859 Committee that it will have a hearing. You'll 00:21:52.859 --> 00:21:56.000 have proponent and opponent testimony. The committee 00:21:56.000 --> 00:21:58.660 will ultimately vote on whether to pass it out 00:21:58.660 --> 00:22:02.880 to the floor or not. I'm very optimistic that 00:22:02.880 --> 00:22:04.880 we're going to see this on the floor. I've had 00:22:04.880 --> 00:22:07.680 good response from fellow legislators that I've 00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:11.039 spoken with already. And then the house, the 00:22:11.039 --> 00:22:13.000 floor, the entirety of the house will vote on 00:22:13.000 --> 00:22:16.619 it. Upon passage from the house, it will then... 00:22:16.430 --> 00:22:19.309 travel over to the Senate chambers where I'll 00:22:19.309 --> 00:22:21.990 be carrying it into the Senate State Affairs 00:22:21.990 --> 00:22:24.329 Committee. We'll go through the same process. 00:22:24.690 --> 00:22:27.410 We will have a hearing with proponent and opponent 00:22:27.410 --> 00:22:30.970 testimony. We will then pass it out to the floor 00:22:30.970 --> 00:22:33.589 on the Senate where we'll have a vote of the 00:22:33.589 --> 00:22:37.559 entire body. upon passage of the Senate, it then 00:22:37.559 --> 00:22:40.259 would be eligible to be placed on the ballot. 00:22:40.380 --> 00:22:42.779 Now, that's a simple majority, correct? A simple 00:22:42.779 --> 00:22:45.460 majority. It does not require a two thirds majority. 00:22:45.819 --> 00:22:48.319 It also does not require a signature from the 00:22:48.319 --> 00:22:51.460 governor. So us as legislators can exercise our 00:22:51.460 --> 00:22:54.759 authority and pass this out and ultimately place 00:22:54.759 --> 00:22:57.559 it on the ballot where the people that we work 00:22:57.559 --> 00:23:00.559 for and are responsible and accountable to will 00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:02.859 have the ultimate decision of whether this is 00:23:02.859 --> 00:23:06.420 something that they want. or not. Now I appreciate 00:23:06.420 --> 00:23:08.779 the legislators being able to put eyeballs on 00:23:08.779 --> 00:23:11.640 this and and look it over from a legal perspective 00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:13.720 but ultimately at the end of the I think it's 00:23:13.720 --> 00:23:15.779 time for South Dakota citizens to have a say. 00:23:15.940 --> 00:23:19.099 Do you think we should have the ability to use 00:23:19.099 --> 00:23:22.180 eminent domain for private gain or not? Should 00:23:22.180 --> 00:23:25.380 we abolish the egregious, abusive, predatory 00:23:25.380 --> 00:23:28.319 behaviors of private companies at the expense 00:23:28.319 --> 00:23:30.599 of the South Dakota citizens? I'm looking forward 00:23:30.599 --> 00:23:33.220 to the citizens having their say on this once 00:23:33.220 --> 00:23:36.420 and for all. I said in my rally speech, we can 00:23:36.420 --> 00:23:38.500 either do this the easy way or we can do this 00:23:38.500 --> 00:23:41.079 the hard way, meaning I hope and pray that the 00:23:41.079 --> 00:23:43.920 legislature gets it right. And in fact, I'm confident 00:23:43.920 --> 00:23:46.259 that they are going to vote to put this on the 00:23:46.259 --> 00:23:48.769 ballot. 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Visit 00:25:41.500 --> 00:25:45.420 ck6source .com. your gateway to the best in performance 00:25:45.420 --> 00:25:50.660 driven Angus Bulls on the market. In fact, we're 00:25:50.660 --> 00:25:53.599 seeing in Iowa right now, a similar bill to HB 00:25:53.599 --> 00:25:56.500 1052 is currently on the floor being debated. 00:25:56.960 --> 00:25:58.539 We've heard from what other states have we heard 00:25:58.539 --> 00:26:01.339 from that are watching what this grassroots movement 00:26:01.339 --> 00:26:03.579 has been able to accomplish here in South Dakota. 00:26:04.299 --> 00:26:06.779 I'm north of 20 other states that have reached 00:26:06.779 --> 00:26:10.220 out and contacted and shared ideas with back 00:26:10.220 --> 00:26:12.359 and forth with them. And they ultimately asked 00:26:12.359 --> 00:26:14.940 the question, how did you accomplish that in 00:26:14.940 --> 00:26:17.539 South Dakota? And I said, well, number one is 00:26:17.539 --> 00:26:19.619 perseverance. There was a lot of setbacks along 00:26:19.619 --> 00:26:21.819 the way, but we kept going. I mean, I kind of 00:26:21.819 --> 00:26:24.819 equated to it's 2 30 in the morning and you have 00:26:24.819 --> 00:26:27.119 a heifer cabin and the snow is blowing and there's 00:26:27.119 --> 00:26:28.900 mud underneath of the snow, but you have to get 00:26:28.900 --> 00:26:31.839 out there and get after it. I mean, giving up 00:26:31.839 --> 00:26:34.849 is not an option. And failure is not an option. 00:26:35.349 --> 00:26:39.730 Correct. And so we ultimately just persevered 00:26:39.730 --> 00:26:43.990 and stayed steadfast and saw it out. And they're 00:26:43.990 --> 00:26:46.029 really looking because we've had a lot of big 00:26:46.029 --> 00:26:49.390 wins along the way and we plan on keep going. 00:26:49.410 --> 00:26:51.410 Cause quite frankly, we're just getting started 00:26:51.410 --> 00:26:54.069 and the outreach has just been phenomenal. And 00:26:54.069 --> 00:26:56.369 I think that leadership shows we heard it in 00:26:56.369 --> 00:26:59.029 DC when we went this summer that people are really 00:26:59.029 --> 00:27:01.609 looking to the state of South Dakota and you 00:27:01.609 --> 00:27:03.700 know, it's taken not just the grassroots getting 00:27:03.700 --> 00:27:06.660 involved in doing signatures, but also many in 00:27:06.660 --> 00:27:09.299 the grassroots, yourself included, deciding to 00:27:09.299 --> 00:27:11.839 run for office. So South Dakota citizens, if 00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:13.880 you're on the right side of history here and 00:27:13.880 --> 00:27:16.059 you're looking at what's happening again, I can 00:27:16.059 --> 00:27:18.940 tell you that if we lose the legislature, if 00:27:18.940 --> 00:27:21.599 we lose the House and the Senate. 1052 will be 00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:24.400 the first thing that's targeted. And so if you 00:27:24.400 --> 00:27:27.380 feel in your heart, if God's calling you to public 00:27:27.380 --> 00:27:29.880 service, now is a good time to think about it 00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:32.920 and reach out to Mark or myself or anybody else 00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:34.960 that could help you. We'd be happy to coach you 00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:37.380 along and get you engaged in the process. But 00:27:37.380 --> 00:27:40.099 we have grassroots members signing up to be precinct 00:27:40.099 --> 00:27:42.640 members, volunteering on the campaign trail, 00:27:42.900 --> 00:27:45.079 even just the little things. I've always said 00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:47.160 that everybody contributes their time, talent 00:27:47.160 --> 00:27:49.619 and treasures to this. There's no egos involved 00:27:49.619 --> 00:27:53.069 here. This is just good everyday citizens realizing 00:27:53.069 --> 00:27:55.089 that this is, as I've said to you many times, 00:27:55.109 --> 00:27:57.349 this is our cows are out moment, which if you're 00:27:57.349 --> 00:27:58.990 in farming and ranching, you know what that means. 00:27:58.990 --> 00:28:01.690 If the cows are out, it means get going and get 00:28:01.690 --> 00:28:03.750 to work. And that's where we are at right now 00:28:03.750 --> 00:28:06.569 in this battle for our property rights, which 00:28:06.569 --> 00:28:09.210 leads me to the next bill that you introduced. 00:28:09.230 --> 00:28:11.849 You're calling it the Bosley bill. Tell us about 00:28:11.849 --> 00:28:17.089 SB 88. Well, SB 88 is a bill that is going to 00:28:17.089 --> 00:28:21.019 clarify surveying with without permission by 00:28:21.019 --> 00:28:24.359 a entity that has the vested interest of eminent 00:28:24.359 --> 00:28:29.200 domain, as well as a active application in front 00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:33.039 of our state PUC. The way that this process all 00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:36.839 came about was the surveying law, that statute 00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:41.119 that we had in place since about 2016, led to 00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:44.500 the incident at the Jared Bosley farm. Now I 00:28:44.500 --> 00:28:47.920 myself was personally there that day and it quite 00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:51.000 possibly was the worst thing that I experienced 00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:54.779 in the entire process. The amount of strife that 00:28:54.779 --> 00:28:57.440 his family has been through because of that is 00:28:57.440 --> 00:29:02.440 just absolutely abhorrent. And we sought out 00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:04.900 relief and peer to get that law changed at the 00:29:04.900 --> 00:29:08.289 time. We're unsuccessful. We had to go hire our 00:29:08.289 --> 00:29:10.769 own attorney. A large collective of landowners 00:29:10.769 --> 00:29:14.210 spent three years in the court system and spent 00:29:14.210 --> 00:29:17.049 hundreds of thousands of dollars to ultimately 00:29:17.049 --> 00:29:19.890 end up in front of our state Supreme court where 00:29:19.890 --> 00:29:23.309 we realized justice. It wasn't a close decision. 00:29:23.690 --> 00:29:27.170 It was a unanimous decision that rendered the 00:29:27.170 --> 00:29:30.970 invasive style tactics for surveying were ruled 00:29:30.970 --> 00:29:34.009 unconstitutional. Now mind you, not to interrupt 00:29:34.009 --> 00:29:36.869 you, but I want to take people back. If you haven't 00:29:36.869 --> 00:29:40.089 heard Jared Bosley's story before, this company 00:29:40.089 --> 00:29:43.529 showed up with armed security guards. They surrounded 00:29:43.529 --> 00:29:45.809 the farm. They call it the invasion, really. 00:29:45.829 --> 00:29:48.190 They were in his shop. They were in his house 00:29:48.190 --> 00:29:50.309 while his wife was alone in the shower. They 00:29:50.309 --> 00:29:52.470 were in the kitchen. They opened up gates for 00:29:52.470 --> 00:29:55.309 the feedlots. They trampled over trees and killed 00:29:55.309 --> 00:29:57.869 those trees in the shelter belt. They drove into 00:29:57.869 --> 00:30:01.230 the field and bore a 90 -foot hole for what was 00:30:01.230 --> 00:30:04.220 supposed to to be a four foot deep carbon pipeline. 00:30:04.539 --> 00:30:06.700 So when we're talking, they came to survey. They 00:30:06.700 --> 00:30:10.259 weren't putting out a few flags. They were invading 00:30:10.259 --> 00:30:13.180 and surveying in a way that was damaging and 00:30:13.180 --> 00:30:15.380 a violation really. And the South Dakota Supreme 00:30:15.380 --> 00:30:18.559 Court agreed with a unanimous decision, which 00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:22.099 leads to the Bosley bill. There was a bill that 00:30:22.099 --> 00:30:24.279 was passed into law. It was carried by Casey 00:30:24.279 --> 00:30:27.200 Crabtree and Will Mortenson called 1185. What 00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:31.789 did 1185 do? 1185 was very similar in nature 00:30:31.789 --> 00:30:35.130 to the previous statute. However, it included 00:30:35.130 --> 00:30:39.410 a $500 payment that was required, which is what 00:30:39.410 --> 00:30:42.150 I'll be removing from the bill because a taking 00:30:42.150 --> 00:30:45.170 of that nature compensation has to be established 00:30:45.170 --> 00:30:48.029 by a jury of your peers. The state has no right 00:30:48.029 --> 00:30:50.930 to determine what you produce or what you have 00:30:50.930 --> 00:30:54.490 is worth, as well as it still included the invasive 00:30:54.490 --> 00:30:58.029 style surveying, the trenching, the boring, the 00:30:58.029 --> 00:31:01.359 drilling. things of that nature. And per the 00:31:01.359 --> 00:31:04.000 Supreme Court's ruling, the only thing that can 00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:09.240 be accessed without permission is a basic general 00:31:09.240 --> 00:31:12.400 walk around, minor soil disturbances, sticking 00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:14.740 a shovel in the dirt, things of that nature. 00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:18.059 And so this bill is going to align with what 00:31:18.059 --> 00:31:20.460 we have as very good guidance from a unanimous 00:31:20.460 --> 00:31:23.599 ruling by our Supreme Court with that ruling. 00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:26.920 And then that's the surveying law that will stay 00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:29.839 in place. It will still require an application 00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:34.400 with the PUC. It will still require notice, the 00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:36.460 landowner getting notice and things of that nature. 00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:39.900 But we just want to simply realign it with the 00:31:39.900 --> 00:31:41.759 guidance that we have from the Supreme court. 00:31:42.180 --> 00:31:44.460 Because what took place out at the Bosley ranch 00:31:44.460 --> 00:31:47.420 that day should never happen in South Dakota 00:31:47.420 --> 00:31:50.259 again. Number one, we don't treat our neighbors 00:31:50.259 --> 00:31:52.710 like that. And we sure don't treat our friends 00:31:52.710 --> 00:31:55.470 or families like that. And for any South Dakotan 00:31:55.470 --> 00:31:58.710 to want to see that perpetuated upon somebody 00:31:58.710 --> 00:32:03.130 is just... terrible and it can never happen again. 00:32:03.589 --> 00:32:06.150 And I've affectionately coined it the Bosley 00:32:06.150 --> 00:32:08.630 bill, because throughout this process, Jared's 00:32:08.630 --> 00:32:11.210 become such a dear friend of mine. We grew up 00:32:11.210 --> 00:32:14.009 competitors in high school sports. Jared and 00:32:14.009 --> 00:32:16.549 I are the same age and we spent a lot of time 00:32:16.549 --> 00:32:18.930 throwing elbows at each other. Quite frankly, 00:32:18.930 --> 00:32:21.910 we didn't get along very, and so it's just been 00:32:21.910 --> 00:32:25.109 very satisfying in life to connect at a later 00:32:25.109 --> 00:32:27.789 point in our lives and become just absolute best 00:32:27.789 --> 00:32:31.299 friends. Well, and this, This pair of bills really 00:32:31.299 --> 00:32:33.700 is about righting some of the wrongs, including 00:32:33.700 --> 00:32:35.819 the wrongs that were done to Jared Bosley. But 00:32:35.819 --> 00:32:38.839 it's about every South Dakotan to make sure that 00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:41.299 your piece of the American dream is really yours 00:32:41.299 --> 00:32:44.980 and it can't be seized against your will. And, 00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:48.160 you know, as I opened in my rally speech, I had 00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:51.539 said, you know, it is such a blessing to, it's 00:32:51.539 --> 00:32:53.279 not a thing to say it's a blessing when you've 00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:56.019 gone through hell and back. really the people 00:32:56.019 --> 00:32:58.660 of South Dakota have suffered greatly at the 00:32:58.660 --> 00:33:01.339 hands of companies that have behaved not South 00:33:01.339 --> 00:33:04.019 Dakota nice. But the blessing is getting to meet 00:33:04.019 --> 00:33:06.259 so many wonderful people from every corner of 00:33:06.259 --> 00:33:09.160 the state who really have a heart for this country 00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:11.740 and for family and for neighbors and their communities 00:33:11.740 --> 00:33:14.500 and the land. But these people have become family. 00:33:14.829 --> 00:33:17.390 And so that's why, you know, it's interesting 00:33:17.390 --> 00:33:20.130 that rally, if I look at it, we didn't have just 00:33:20.130 --> 00:33:22.490 one agitator. We had two agitators that wanted 00:33:22.490 --> 00:33:25.089 to run up to the podium and steal the show. We 00:33:25.089 --> 00:33:27.490 had Capitol Police on hand because it wouldn't 00:33:27.490 --> 00:33:29.849 be a property rights rally without some agitators. 00:33:29.910 --> 00:33:32.029 We've had them over the years, more than one. 00:33:32.410 --> 00:33:34.849 But we also had some comments that were made 00:33:34.849 --> 00:33:37.569 after the rally. At the end of my speech, I had 00:33:37.569 --> 00:33:40.170 referenced that Congressman Dusty Johnson had 00:33:40.170 --> 00:33:42.710 called landowners and farmers and ranchers who 00:33:42.710 --> 00:33:45.890 simply had questions. about projects like data 00:33:45.890 --> 00:33:48.730 centers coming into their communities. In a speech 00:33:48.730 --> 00:33:51.170 at the Sioux Falls Greater Chamber of Commerce, 00:33:51.410 --> 00:33:53.769 Dusty Johnson had called people like you and 00:33:53.769 --> 00:33:57.450 I and so many others on American bananas, build 00:33:57.450 --> 00:34:00.849 absolutely nothing anywhere near anything, NIMBYs 00:34:00.849 --> 00:34:03.589 not in my backyard, and he even went so far as 00:34:03.589 --> 00:34:06.450 to say that we are a disease. I had mentioned 00:34:06.450 --> 00:34:09.869 that without naming names in my speech. Hub City 00:34:09.869 --> 00:34:12.190 radio picked it up after the event and our buddy 00:34:12.190 --> 00:34:15.289 Scott Sundberg had the congressman on his show 00:34:15.289 --> 00:34:18.030 and he was quick to dismiss it. And in fact, 00:34:18.130 --> 00:34:20.849 he had said, well, I think Amanda Radke was over 00:34:20.849 --> 00:34:22.710 her skis a little bit with those statements. 00:34:22.909 --> 00:34:25.349 And I had the opportunity to go on the show as 00:34:25.349 --> 00:34:27.170 well. And I'm going to provide the links to those 00:34:27.170 --> 00:34:28.929 interviews and the show notes, because I really 00:34:28.929 --> 00:34:32.000 think. people should see what the attitudes are 00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:35.119 about everyday citizens of South Dakota who simply 00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:37.519 want to have a conversation and want to have 00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:40.039 a say about their land, about their livelihood, 00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:42.920 about the farm and ranch that like you and I 00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:45.199 and so many others have poured our blood, sweat 00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:48.019 and tears. And so my message to the congressman 00:34:48.019 --> 00:34:51.340 and any of these other politicians who find the 00:34:51.340 --> 00:34:53.460 farmers and ranchers who come to peer in their 00:34:53.460 --> 00:34:56.019 plaid shirts and their blue jeans and want to 00:34:56.019 --> 00:34:58.179 say in the decisions that are made here at the 00:34:58.179 --> 00:35:00.639 Capitol, You know, my message is I'm not over 00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:04.340 my skis. I'm solidly on the South Dakota soil 00:35:04.340 --> 00:35:07.219 where I belong and I don't like a bully. And 00:35:07.219 --> 00:35:09.280 so my message to the landowners and the farmers 00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:11.320 and ranchers who are listening to this who I 00:35:11.320 --> 00:35:15.300 know and I love because I'm one of you, as I'll 00:35:15.300 --> 00:35:17.519 never back down from a bully. I'll never back 00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:20.000 down from a fight. I know Senator Lopke won't 00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:22.579 either. And together, we are stronger than ever 00:35:22.579 --> 00:35:25.940 before. We are just getting started. South Dakota 00:35:25.940 --> 00:35:29.139 is leading the way and fortifying your property 00:35:29.139 --> 00:35:32.599 rights from now until eternity. And the next 00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:35.500 steps begin with this legislative session. So 00:35:35.500 --> 00:35:38.599 finally. I want to talk about a mechanism that 00:35:38.599 --> 00:35:41.179 you can do to follow along in the process to 00:35:41.179 --> 00:35:43.619 get updates on the committee hearings. What committee 00:35:43.619 --> 00:35:46.420 is the Bosley bill headed to? The Bosley bill 00:35:46.420 --> 00:35:48.780 will be headed to the Senate Commerce and Energy 00:35:48.780 --> 00:35:50.659 Committee. And things are going to happen pretty 00:35:50.659 --> 00:35:52.820 fast, right? You anticipate that both bills will 00:35:52.820 --> 00:35:55.400 be coming very shortly. I would say within the 00:35:55.400 --> 00:35:57.380 next week, we will be having our first committee 00:35:57.380 --> 00:36:00.599 hearings for both of the bills. Yes. So I'm pleased 00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:02.960 to announce that we do have tools and resources 00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:05.519 available to you, the listener that will allow 00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:07.699 you to get updates on the committee hearings, 00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:09.860 when it's time to testify, when it's time to 00:36:09.860 --> 00:36:12.039 contact your legislators, when it will be going 00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:14.360 to the floor. Maybe if we have to start collecting 00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:16.639 signatures, I don't know, but that mechanism 00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:19.079 is a new website that was announced. alongside 00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:22.099 the rally. It's called American Land and Legacy. 00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:24.420 I'm proud to be a part of that organization, 00:36:24.739 --> 00:36:26.960 along with Senator Lobke and our board member, 00:36:27.139 --> 00:36:29.960 Jay Point Dexter. We realized that there needed 00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:33.420 to be a tool for the landowners to get engaged, 00:36:33.619 --> 00:36:36.119 to stay involved in the process and to be all 00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:39.079 headed in the same direction. And so americanlandandlegacy 00:36:39.079 --> 00:36:41.860 .org is the website you can go check out. We'll 00:36:41.860 --> 00:36:44.280 have text and email updates, ways that you can 00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:47.539 pitch in and donate to the cause and stay active 00:36:47.539 --> 00:36:49.719 and engaged. engaged and informed and I'm pleased 00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:53.289 to say that not only Is this going to serve the 00:36:53.289 --> 00:36:56.090 state of South Dakota? But I have gotten so many 00:36:56.090 --> 00:36:58.469 calls from across the country, from all the way 00:36:58.469 --> 00:37:00.769 from Maryland to California and everywhere in 00:37:00.769 --> 00:37:03.110 between. They're facing property rights battles 00:37:03.110 --> 00:37:05.710 too. And they're saying, can you help? So if 00:37:05.710 --> 00:37:07.650 you're listening all the way across the country, 00:37:07.929 --> 00:37:11.110 yes, we can help. We want to hear your story. 00:37:11.190 --> 00:37:14.329 We want to know what's going on across the country. 00:37:14.469 --> 00:37:16.230 And the best way to connect is to go sign up 00:37:16.230 --> 00:37:19.849 for updates and shoot us a message at americanlandandlegacy 00:37:19.849 --> 00:37:23.039 .org. Senator, we're running up to the show time, 00:37:23.059 --> 00:37:24.920 but is there anything else you'd like to add 00:37:24.920 --> 00:37:27.619 as we kick off this legislative session, as you 00:37:27.619 --> 00:37:30.880 get back to work in peer and a message to the 00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:32.880 listeners of what's ahead? Well, I guess the 00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:34.519 first thing that I'd like to do is, you know, 00:37:34.659 --> 00:37:37.760 invite everybody down to come to peer, participate 00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:40.400 in your government, see how it works, walk the 00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:42.960 halls, sit in on committee meetings, watch the 00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:45.460 floor session. And if you're unable to do that, 00:37:45.539 --> 00:37:48.320 we have this wonderful website provided for us 00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:51.840 by our legislative. Research Council, South Dakota, 00:37:52.139 --> 00:37:56.300 or SDLegislative .gov. And you can view all the 00:37:56.300 --> 00:37:58.280 committees there. New for this year, we've got 00:37:58.280 --> 00:38:01.099 not only audio, but video as well in every committee 00:38:01.099 --> 00:38:03.980 room. So that adds a lot more to it. It's amazing 00:38:03.980 --> 00:38:06.559 how many people utilize that and watch that. 00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:09.340 And so just, you know, pay attention, call your 00:38:09.340 --> 00:38:12.179 legislators, stay in touch with them. You got 00:38:12.179 --> 00:38:14.099 to remember at the end of the day, we work for 00:38:14.099 --> 00:38:17.300 you. That's the appropriate structure of things. 00:38:17.460 --> 00:38:20.719 And that's how I serve. Absolutely. Well, I'm 00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:23.519 proud to say that Senator Lopke is here. He is 00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:27.320 the only farmer rancher in the Senate. And I 00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:29.679 mentioned, I guess maybe we should close. Probably 00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:31.480 not a lot of people know, but I mentioned the 00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:34.480 plaid shirt deal. Tell me about the first time 00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:37.360 you showed up to peer in your plaid shirt and 00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:41.239 your work jeans. What happened that day? Well, 00:38:41.340 --> 00:38:43.980 unfortunately, I remember it like yesterday because 00:38:43.980 --> 00:38:48.059 it kind of left its imprint. It was January 15th 00:38:48.059 --> 00:38:51.599 of two thousand and twenty three. Myself, with 00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:54.179 about 30 other landowners from across the state, 00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:56.800 decided to show up and appear. And we had a bill 00:38:56.800 --> 00:38:59.800 that the time freshman legislator, Representative 00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:03.500 Carla Lemsbaugh, eleven thirty three. And so 00:39:03.500 --> 00:39:06.719 we had a lobby day. It was kind of an idea that 00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:09.400 was originated by former Representative Dennis 00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:12.420 Fike. former Brown County Commissioner and he 00:39:12.420 --> 00:39:14.480 had been down here and he kind of taught us the 00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:17.280 ropes. So we showed up not knowing what we were 00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:19.079 going to do and you want to talk about feeling 00:39:19.079 --> 00:39:21.559 like a fish out of water. I'm used to being in 00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:24.619 car hard coveralls chasing cows around in January. 00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:28.159 So what did you do? We put on our, our good clothes, 00:39:28.300 --> 00:39:30.659 you know, a pair of blue jeans, your cowboy boots 00:39:30.659 --> 00:39:33.159 and a plaid shirt. You know, that's our normal 00:39:33.159 --> 00:39:36.500 attire. And so we showed up and we had a lot 00:39:36.500 --> 00:39:39.579 of conversations that day. Some good, some not 00:39:39.579 --> 00:39:43.119 so good, but you also got the sentiment that 00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:46.079 you really weren't welcome there. And I guess 00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:48.659 I probably was rather naive at the time because 00:39:48.659 --> 00:39:51.199 I always thought it was a government of the people, 00:39:51.320 --> 00:39:53.820 by the people, for the people. But the people 00:39:53.820 --> 00:39:57.539 really weren't wanted. There was a lot of chastising 00:39:57.539 --> 00:40:01.679 in the media by lobbyists that felt that we were 00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:05.159 ruining decorum and disrespecting the institution. 00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:08.739 And I guess I think that is just completely backwards. 00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:12.360 And so, you know, they said farmers were dressed 00:40:12.360 --> 00:40:14.960 in plaid shirts, were walking up and down the 00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:17.539 hallways, harassing legislators. And I guess 00:40:17.539 --> 00:40:20.710 I can tell you we've always been. complimented 00:40:20.710 --> 00:40:23.010 about how respectful of a manner we've acted 00:40:23.010 --> 00:40:25.190 in. So it couldn't have been farther from the 00:40:25.190 --> 00:40:27.750 truth, but it was definitely a day that I'll 00:40:27.750 --> 00:40:30.050 never forget. And it left an impression. And 00:40:30.050 --> 00:40:32.530 it left an impression on so many as well. And 00:40:32.530 --> 00:40:34.809 so as we close the show today, I just want to 00:40:34.809 --> 00:40:38.389 thank every farmer and rancher who finds a way 00:40:38.389 --> 00:40:40.829 to leave home with all the chores and everything 00:40:40.829 --> 00:40:43.510 else you have going on and goes to the Capitol, 00:40:43.710 --> 00:40:45.690 no matter what state you're in and advocates 00:40:45.690 --> 00:40:47.949 for our way of life. Because at the end of the 00:40:47.949 --> 00:40:50.329 day, there are politicians who don't know anything 00:40:50.329 --> 00:40:54.119 about a... sow, plow or cowl, right? They've 00:40:54.119 --> 00:40:56.079 never ridden a tractor. They've never had their, 00:40:56.139 --> 00:40:57.920 they've never had to calve out cows. They don't 00:40:57.920 --> 00:41:00.800 know. And yet they're making decisions on your 00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:03.840 behalf. Every legislative session, they are making 00:41:03.840 --> 00:41:07.179 laws and policies that ultimately determine how 00:41:07.179 --> 00:41:09.820 you get to operate your land and your livestock 00:41:09.820 --> 00:41:13.039 as you see fit. And they're even so far as to 00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:15.639 go, and we've seen it here in South Dakota, that 00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:18.460 they're willing to even strip away your property 00:41:18.460 --> 00:41:21.719 rights like they believe they can give. and take 00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:25.440 away, which they cannot. But without your vigilance, 00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:27.579 without you paying attention, without you getting 00:41:27.579 --> 00:41:30.219 involved, you can't be sorry at the results. 00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:33.079 But I'm here to say in South Dakota, we're gonna 00:41:33.079 --> 00:41:35.480 own the conversation. The landowners are here. 00:41:35.780 --> 00:41:38.159 They're better than stronger than ever. Keep 00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:40.659 watching. We're just getting started. Go sign 00:41:40.659 --> 00:41:43.139 up to americanlandandlegacy .com. And Senator 00:41:43.139 --> 00:41:45.719 Lobke, thanks for all you do here in the Capitol. 00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:49.110 Thank you, Amanda. While I've got you here, I 00:41:49.110 --> 00:41:51.869 would love to invite you to check out my website, 00:41:52.050 --> 00:41:55.909 amandaradkey .com. Each week I share my column, 00:41:56.329 --> 00:41:59.389 this podcast, and new items to shop for farm 00:41:59.389 --> 00:42:02.150 and ranch families, including my children's books 00:42:02.150 --> 00:42:05.789 that celebrate agriculture. Use code dusty trail 00:42:05.789 --> 00:42:09.650 to save 15 % on your next purchase. Thank you 00:42:09.650 --> 00:42:12.210 from the bottom of my heart for supporting my 00:42:12.210 --> 00:42:15.090 small business and for your continued support 00:42:15.090 --> 00:42:17.800 and keeping me on the road. fighting for farm 00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:20.800 and ranch families. 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