1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,280 This is MJ, I'm an author, I'm an artist, I'm an analyzer. 2 00:00:03,280 --> 00:00:05,840 You can find all my work at MJMunoz.com. 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:09,160 Welcome to my fully operational Star Wars analysis. 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:13,080 This time out I'm talking about Ahsoka, episode 6. 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:19,440 I am once again listening to the credits as the episode has just ended less than a minute 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:25,080 ago, maybe 90 seconds ago now, and I gotta say it's weird, we've got this cool score 7 00:00:25,080 --> 00:00:28,440 that we don't hear at the beginning of the episode, and I don't think we ever hear it 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:33,880 like throughout the episode, so while it's a cool score and I appreciate the choice to 9 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,960 just drop us right into the action, it is really weird that we're not getting this score 10 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:44,480 in the episode, or at least nowhere I can discern it, and yeah, that's kinda strange. 11 00:00:44,480 --> 00:00:51,560 Anyway, so this was Ahsoka episode 7, like I said, it was called Dreams and Madness, 12 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,540 and I do not know why it was called Dreams and Madness. 13 00:00:55,540 --> 00:01:07,720 By the end of it, Thrawn has told the fake Nightsister lady that he has won because he 14 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:13,040 made Ahsoka lose time, and that's the one thing she can't afford to lose, and he intends 15 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,040 to keep it that way. 16 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:22,400 I don't know how I feel about that, because I don't really find that argument compelling. 17 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:28,000 I also didn't find it compelling, like the problem with Grand Admiral Thrawn, and I don't 18 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:33,440 know how Zhaun made this work out, and I did talk about him previously about how one of 19 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:38,400 the things that happened in, I don't know, Dark, whatever, I think it was the second 20 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:44,360 Thrawn book, was like he guessed this crazy thing that was going on with people shuffling 21 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:50,320 ships between the Falcon, the Lady Luck, and Luke's X-Wing maybe, and like the three of 22 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,480 them rendezvoused and he figured out this thing, and it's like, how did you guess that 23 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:54,480 dude? 24 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,640 And I don't know if there is actually some strong logical, like you know, because it 25 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,720 is the field of logic, I don't know if there is some strong logical argument or way or 26 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:08,000 methodology that could be used to really define that stuff properly or not, but like, Thrawn 27 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,720 guessed, you know, because Zhaun needed him to, exactly what it was, and the problem with 28 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:17,240 writing a genius is that you have to be a genius, and I don't know if Timothy Zhaun 29 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:18,240 is a genius or not. 30 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:23,280 He certainly captivated people with his character of Grand Admiral Thrawn and the Chance of 31 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,360 Sentency and all that stuff. 32 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:30,480 So you know, kudos to him, and obviously that is a great feat, and some people call the 33 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:36,080 Thrawn books the best books, or their favorite books of the Star Wars Extended Universe, 34 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:40,640 and you know, that is fine, or Expanded Universe, sorry, which is fine, and I have nothing against 35 00:02:40,640 --> 00:02:43,680 that, and I have nothing against Zhaun, except for the chocolate milk thing, which I think 36 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:48,560 I talked about previously too, and I will not belabor now. 37 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,200 They call it hot cocoa milk. 38 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:55,760 Anyway, so it works every time. 39 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,840 Oh man. 40 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:05,720 Anyway, so yeah, that's weird to me, and I think Filoni tried to give Thrawn a genius 41 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:11,480 line, which was regarding to, Ahsoka was in this debris field, they call it, or well, 42 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:18,080 he calls it a brief field, and he calls it a graveyard, I believe, to the Nightsisters, 43 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:27,280 the Great Mothers, and he says to, what's her face, the magistrate, I'm using that old 44 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:32,160 name for her, because I can't remember, Morgan Elizabeth, there we go, he says to Morgan 45 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:41,040 Elizabeth something along the lines of, we, like, he knows that, this is confusing, in 46 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:46,240 the books, it is revealed that Thrawn figured out that Anakin Skywalker became Darth Vader, 47 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,320 because it's not common knowledge at the time. 48 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:53,720 It becomes common, well, it becomes a known fact later, I don't know when it becomes common 49 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,040 knowledge, if ever, in the galaxy, but Thrawn is one of the few people who knows it. 50 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,720 I think it's Thrawn Tarkin Sidious, and I don't know, a handful of other people. 51 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:08,040 So Ahsoka, maybe Rex, I don't know who else, anyway, Obi-Wan Yoda, there's a handful of 52 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:09,040 people. 53 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:17,960 Anyway, the genius line that Thrawn, that Filoni gave to Thrawn, which confused me, 54 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,280 was something along the lines of, it's twofold. 55 00:04:20,280 --> 00:04:28,280 So it starts with, I think, him knowing that Ahsoka is Anakin Skywalker's apprentice, and 56 00:04:28,280 --> 00:04:36,280 the, yeah, there's a, I'm pretty sure there's a Thrawn book that's split timeline, which 57 00:04:36,280 --> 00:04:40,840 I don't know why you would do that, between the Clone Wars and Imperial times, and it's 58 00:04:40,840 --> 00:04:46,440 like a cat and mouse game of Thrawn working with Anakin Skywalker for something, maybe 59 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,640 in the Outer Rim, I don't know for sure, and then him working with Vader, and then him, 60 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,120 by the end of it, he like, put pieces together that it's the same guy. 61 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:59,200 And other than Thrawn understanding how Vader works, I don't know how that's beneficial 62 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:05,600 or why that's actually cool, unless he was planning on working against the Empire for 63 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:10,360 some greater purpose, some grand design, some greater good that he had in mind. 64 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,360 And I totally rhyme, that was weird. 65 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:19,800 Anyway, so, but that's all to get to the point where I'm telling you what the line from Thrawn 66 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:26,880 was, which was something like, she will come to you, and then you will bring her to me. 67 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:36,480 No, it was, we will let her go on her own path, so that we will always stay one step 68 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,200 ahead of her. 69 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:46,000 And he said it with such confidence and smoothness, I'm supposed to say, I don't know what that 70 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,000 means. 71 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:51,040 He said it with such, I guess, charm, you could say, you could argue, that I wanted 72 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:56,160 to believe it, but as soon as he was done saying it, and Morgan Elizabeth turned to 73 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:04,040 the screen and said, I too questioned what exactly he was saying, and I thought, I have 74 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:08,280 an enemy, and in the context too, he wanted to pull back the forces, he wanted to pull 75 00:06:08,280 --> 00:06:13,360 back the ships from pursuing her, the limited resources that they have, he wanted to pull 76 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:17,360 back the ships from pursuing her in the debris field, because he didn't want to lose any 77 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,960 more of them than he had to. 78 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:27,200 And somehow, he knew that pulling back on the ships, and stopping them from killing 79 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:32,480 her, if they could, which the odds were low, he would be able to, I'm going to spend the 80 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:39,280 whole episode on this guys, okay, just get ready for it, he would be able to let her 81 00:06:39,280 --> 00:06:47,720 go, which would help him stay ahead of her, despite the fact that he doesn't know where 82 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:52,760 she's going, except for the fact that she wants to go to Sabine Wren, or he's assuming 83 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:58,920 she wants to go to Sabine Wren, who has been mercifully sent far away from him and his 84 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:03,440 forces, which he pointed out, and I thought that was clever, I really did. 85 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:08,320 Yeah, if she's going to go try to rescue her friend Sabine, well, Sabine ain't here, and 86 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:13,800 somehow these people, these Jedi always find each other, so yeah, Ahsoka's going to find 87 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:20,200 Sabine far away from us, and you know, thanks to the force, we won't have to worry about 88 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:25,160 her interfering and meddling with us, whereas if we kept Sabine imprisoned on our ship, 89 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,600 she would come right here, she would attack us, we would defend, it would lead to a dangerous 90 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:34,600 outcome, so like, I don't know, he's definitely clever, and it was definitely a good move 91 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:39,580 to put the conflict as far away from you as possible, but it's not like a genius move, 92 00:07:39,580 --> 00:07:52,760 and still, that line, that line of, I will let her go there, so that she, we have to 93 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,600 fight them over there, so we don't have to fight them over here? 94 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:02,240 Oh, I'm sorry, I'm, uh, wow, I'm too much. 95 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:08,280 Anyway, so yeah, by letting her go on her own course and leaving her alone, when we 96 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:14,200 have a small likelihood of killing her, we will stay one step ahead of her. 97 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:24,240 She, my guy, she's not after you, she's after Sabine, so you potentially wasting resources 98 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:31,320 in an attempt to kill Ahsoka Tano, that turns out to be fruitless, will decrease your forces. 99 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,160 Yes, I agree. 100 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,080 You are smart to pull back your forces because of that. 101 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:42,240 I agree, that is clever, good tactics, again, I don't know that it's genius level, but it's 102 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:43,800 definitely smart. 103 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:50,080 So I agree, I like that, that's a good, smart move by a good, smart bad guy. 104 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:58,860 However, this thinking that he's gonna stay a step ahead of her when she's not going after 105 00:08:58,860 --> 00:09:01,760 him directly doesn't make sense. 106 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,760 That would be like me, so I'm driving in the car right now. 107 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:11,320 There's a guy driving behind me in some sort of vehicle, but I'm gonna say that by letting 108 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:18,520 him go on his own path, I'm going to stay ahead of him and evade capture by him. 109 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,360 He's not going after me, that's not his destination, that is not his route to get me. 110 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,560 At least I hope not, I don't know what's he doing. 111 00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:31,600 But by me going on my path, going on my merry way, continuing with my plans as usual and 112 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:36,920 ignoring him and not interacting with him, like not slamming my brakes and swerving so 113 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,720 that the guy stops and getting out of the car and yelling at him, chasing him with a 114 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:44,960 baseball bat, by not interacting, interfering, intervening with this guy who's just driving 115 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:53,040 behind me somewhere else going on his own mission, by refusing to do that interaction, 116 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:58,960 I will ensure that he doesn't follow me to work right now. 117 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:05,560 However, I have no reason to think he would have followed me to work had I not interfered 118 00:10:05,560 --> 00:10:06,560 with him at all. 119 00:10:06,560 --> 00:10:11,440 And it's kind of the same logic, I think, I mean it's like a gross analogy, but it's 120 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:16,920 kind of the same logic with what Theron was saying, that Ahsoka's on her own mission, 121 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:21,440 if we leave her alone, she won't know what we're doing or she'll be even less informed 122 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:26,160 about what we're doing and therefore she won't be an aggravating, complicating factor for 123 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:27,160 us. 124 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,080 Obviously, but that's just weird. 125 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:35,600 Anyway, so sorry for picking on that for so long, but it just seemed weird and it's like, 126 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,480 I don't know man, and I know I mentioned this before so I'll be super brief, but when they 127 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:44,680 brought Theron to Rebels in season three or whatever that was, I thought, do you really 128 00:10:44,680 --> 00:10:45,680 want to do this? 129 00:10:45,680 --> 00:10:46,680 Do you know what you're doing? 130 00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:50,360 Like at that point, Folony was no longer, he was the supervising director of Rebels 131 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:54,000 and I think he was partly in charge. 132 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:59,080 And he said, we can give you this many dollars or we can give you this many dollars minus, 133 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:03,280 or less 25% and these are your art styles that go along with that. 134 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,720 Which would you like, Mr. Folony? 135 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:06,720 Which doesn't make any sense. 136 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:07,960 Well, anyway, I think that's true. 137 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:13,600 I don't know for a fact that it's true that because Rebels was on Disney XD, I think, 138 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:18,480 that it was like much lower budget than Clone Wars was, but Lucas was, as I understand it, 139 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:23,480 putting his own money, like George Lucas himself, the man who married Melody Roberts, Roberts 140 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:31,640 Robinson and had a kid, around the time he sold Lucasfilm to Disney, that man right there, 141 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:39,120 father of Katie and Jet and other people, he put his own money into Clone Wars and he 142 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,280 was like, yeah, I'm going to spend the money on this because I want it to look a certain 143 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,440 way and be a certain quality and I want to keep pushing the envelope with the fanimation 144 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:45,440 and stuff. 145 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:49,760 And they went from being wooden marionette like Thunderbirds to having flowing hair and 146 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:54,000 robes and cloth textures and all that good stuff and having that amazing Siege of Mandalore 147 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,600 battle between Ahsoka and Maul. 148 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:56,600 Ah! 149 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:57,600 Top tier animation! 150 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,360 Some of the best animation in the world ever made, I believe. 151 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,380 Anyway, definitely some of the best lightsaber coordination, lightsaber fight coordination 152 00:12:04,380 --> 00:12:06,040 we've ever seen. 153 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:10,040 Anyway, almost as good as Ryan vs. Dorkman. 154 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:14,640 And then, you know, when we went to Rebels, he had much less money to work with. 155 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:20,320 But anyway, you know, Poloni did the best he could, I think, under the new regime, although 156 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:21,880 it doesn't make sense, but whatever. 157 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:26,120 I'm not going to get into theory and guessing and pretending like I know what I'm talking 158 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:27,120 about exactly. 159 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,800 You know, but he was the supervising director of Rebels. 160 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:31,800 He wasn't directly involved. 161 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,360 I think that was like season two. 162 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,720 I think, pretty sure, oh gosh, Greg Wiseman, right? 163 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,880 Greg Wiseman of Gargoyle's fame and Spectacular Spider-Man 2? 164 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:41,880 Was that him? 165 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:42,880 Anyway, I think it was. 166 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:47,880 But Greg Wiseman had a large part in the Kanan part of the story, I know for sure, and in 167 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,400 a lot of the writing of that first season of Rebels. 168 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,360 And I think Poloni was very involved, too, if I'm remembering correctly. 169 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:59,280 But then I think he went to, you know, executive producer role, which has bigger overarching 170 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:06,000 control over the series, but still like you're handing off your ideas to other people to 171 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:11,000 actualize, which is fine, but it just, you know, it can kind of change things and be 172 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,000 interesting. 173 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,000 It can be interesting. 174 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,240 It can lead to interesting, and by interesting, I mean not so great results. 175 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:22,160 So anyway, I thought, I can't believe you're inviting Thrawn into this children's show 176 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:30,560 that is, you know, neutered by being on Disney XD, and like, I'm not sure you're going to 177 00:13:30,560 --> 00:13:31,560 handle this well. 178 00:13:31,560 --> 00:13:33,720 And yeah, I don't know. 179 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:34,720 It was interesting. 180 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:40,320 I didn't think they did an incredible job with Thrawn, but whatever, in that show. 181 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,680 But I mean, it was decent overall. 182 00:13:42,680 --> 00:13:46,240 He felt threatening enough, but just, I don't know, some things were off and some things 183 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,400 were weird to me. 184 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,240 And I kind of feel the same way. 185 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,040 Like, I'm not sure you can handle Thrawn 100%. 186 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:54,760 Like I don't know. 187 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,720 Like Moff Gideon was a really cool villain, as far as I'm concerned, in the first two 188 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,080 seasons of Mandalorian. 189 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:03,200 And I thought like he was cool. 190 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:04,200 He felt Thrawn-ish. 191 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,080 He felt like a super smart guy. 192 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:11,120 He felt very clever, very tactical, and you know, very competent and threatening. 193 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:12,120 And that was super cool. 194 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,480 But when you're actually bringing in Thrawn, I don't know. 195 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:19,760 Like there's a shine and there's a level of prestige that goes along with Thrawn. 196 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,280 And maybe he works better in books, honestly, because of the way you can get into his head 197 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:27,080 and hear his philosophizing and bouncing ideas off of Pelion. 198 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:31,560 Like he's basically Sherlock Holmes, and Pelion is his, uh, what's his name? 199 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,560 Wilson, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 200 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:35,560 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 201 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:36,560 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 202 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:37,560 Yeah, Watson, there you go. 203 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:41,320 I've never read a Sherlock Holmes book in my life so I'm just going off of what I know 204 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:46,060 from general pop culture, like movie references, I've never even seen those Robert Downey Jr., 205 00:14:46,060 --> 00:14:47,060 Sherlock Holmes movies. 206 00:14:47,060 --> 00:14:50,260 So you know, forgive my uh, lack of recall of that. 207 00:14:50,260 --> 00:14:54,620 But anyway, forgive my un-total recall. 208 00:14:54,620 --> 00:15:00,460 But yeah, so, I, I don't know man, I don't know, I know what they're doing with Thrawn, 209 00:15:00,460 --> 00:15:02,900 I don't know why they're doing with Thrawn. 210 00:15:02,900 --> 00:15:05,560 And you know, I'm 211 00:15:06,500 --> 00:15:12,880 Less than thrilled. I'm less than thrilled, but I'm curious to see how it all shakes out. I like though that 212 00:15:14,180 --> 00:15:19,980 Bailin bailed. Hey bailin bailed. I see what you did there Filoni 213 00:15:20,540 --> 00:15:25,660 He's a bailer cuz his name bailin. Anyway, I like that bailin bailed on 214 00:15:25,660 --> 00:15:33,220 Thrawn's mission and on you know being a mercenary for him and that he's doing his own thing. I 215 00:15:33,980 --> 00:15:37,100 Assume that ties into dreams and madness the title of the episode 216 00:15:37,100 --> 00:15:42,780 But I still think that episode is like very poorly placed because I'm not sensing any dreams 217 00:15:42,900 --> 00:15:46,020 I'm not sensing any madness either and that's kind of strange 218 00:15:47,140 --> 00:15:48,420 but 219 00:15:48,420 --> 00:15:50,420 Irregardless 220 00:15:50,460 --> 00:15:52,460 That one was for you dad 221 00:15:52,460 --> 00:15:54,340 Irregardless 222 00:15:54,340 --> 00:15:56,340 it's 223 00:15:57,180 --> 00:16:00,700 It's weird it's very weird to me that 224 00:16:02,460 --> 00:16:07,500 Bailin is off doing his own thing and I mean it makes it kind of more interesting more dynamic and you know 225 00:16:07,500 --> 00:16:14,500 I wonder exactly what he's up to. I don't know that we'll find out. I mean we should find out next episode but I 226 00:16:16,100 --> 00:16:18,760 Don't know like I think Thrawn's gonna leave 227 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:20,760 And 228 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:26,560 Ahsoka and the gang are gonna have to try to leave too the pergola gone 229 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:32,120 So will they try to hitch a ride on the eye of Cyrus or eye of Sion? Sorry eye of Sion 230 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,120 I kind of feel like 231 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,900 In a crazy way whatever bailin's after if there is some secret force thing 232 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:41,760 Cuz he's leaving 233 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,400 Shin to join the Empire or the new Empire 234 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:50,040 You know first order whatever and like be a part of that and you know find her greatness and find her fortune or whatever 235 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:56,840 There and he wants to do something bigger. He said he basically wants to end all future wars 236 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:02,200 Does he want to become a demigod is there some sort of crazy you know fable? 237 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:10,020 Excuse me fable bound power their fable bound power. That's a title to your next book the fable bound power anyway 238 00:17:10,020 --> 00:17:15,180 Um he uh like is there something some great power that he's gonna activate there like there was that um 239 00:17:16,780 --> 00:17:24,180 Malachor I think they used Malachor in Clone Wars where maul was there and Kanan and there was the fateful fight and 240 00:17:24,460 --> 00:17:26,460 Maul and Ezra were teaming up 241 00:17:27,020 --> 00:17:31,380 To get to a holocron or something like that and there was some sort of like you know planet-wide super weapon 242 00:17:31,820 --> 00:17:37,020 Cut yeah, I I think it was called Malachor and I wonder if like do they just take the idea of the mass shadow generator 243 00:17:37,020 --> 00:17:38,740 or what 244 00:17:38,740 --> 00:17:43,700 But maybe it wasn't Malachor. Maybe it was like how they changed Korriban to Moribon. Maybe it wasn't Malachor 245 00:17:43,700 --> 00:17:46,740 Maybe it was like Malachon or something like that anyway, but um 246 00:17:47,380 --> 00:17:52,140 We Ezra picked up a cross guard lightsaber. I think there too. That was like a Jedi weapon anyway 247 00:17:54,180 --> 00:17:56,460 Too much Star Wars guys too much Star Wars anyway 248 00:17:58,940 --> 00:18:02,860 Maybe there's some sort of like you know force based super weapon 249 00:18:03,140 --> 00:18:07,820 that's like Nightsister magic combined with something else like sithi or who knows what and 250 00:18:07,820 --> 00:18:10,300 Like I I almost think that this 251 00:18:10,940 --> 00:18:17,740 Episode eight could wrap up the season the series whatever with somehow Balin activating this thing that goes wild and 252 00:18:17,900 --> 00:18:24,620 stops Thrawn from getting back into the galaxy unless of course they are pushing for Thrawn to win in the end and 253 00:18:24,900 --> 00:18:28,020 get back into the normal Star Wars galaxy and 254 00:18:28,020 --> 00:18:35,780 For him and his forces to be the remnants that become the First Order eventually like I can definitely see that happening 255 00:18:37,500 --> 00:18:40,180 But I don't know it could also not happen and I 256 00:18:41,140 --> 00:18:44,540 Don't know that could be more interesting that could be more fun. Maybe I don't really know 257 00:18:46,860 --> 00:18:48,860 I don't really know just find odd 258 00:18:51,700 --> 00:18:54,660 Overall I was entertained I liked seeing Ezra use his like 259 00:18:54,660 --> 00:18:57,460 You know offensive force pushing and stuff and 260 00:18:58,740 --> 00:19:03,220 Seeing him fight was funny. Although I am irritated a little bit by the little 261 00:19:04,380 --> 00:19:07,260 RV turtle guys that they are 262 00:19:07,780 --> 00:19:10,940 Peaceful as they're called them peaceful. That's not true. They're harmless 263 00:19:11,180 --> 00:19:16,100 There's a difference between being peaceful and harmless and this has been said by a few different people in a few different ways 264 00:19:16,100 --> 00:19:20,540 But basically if you're peaceful, it's because you have the ability to 265 00:19:20,540 --> 00:19:26,860 Harm people or be violent and you choose not to because that's how you want to live your life 266 00:19:26,860 --> 00:19:30,660 if you're harmless you are incapable of or 267 00:19:31,700 --> 00:19:33,700 Yeah, you're incapable of 268 00:19:34,260 --> 00:19:36,260 by dint of strength or weapons 269 00:19:37,260 --> 00:19:43,380 You're incapable of causing harm to somebody else. So you're not peaceful. You're not safe. You're just incapable. You're inept 270 00:19:43,380 --> 00:19:45,380 You're harmless. That's totally different and 271 00:19:45,900 --> 00:19:48,460 You shouldn't want to be harmed by being peaceful 272 00:19:48,460 --> 00:19:55,500 And you shouldn't want to be harmless. You should want to be peaceful. There's like a market difference and I don't know 273 00:19:56,060 --> 00:19:59,400 That's interesting. I even think there was a little bit of like a not pacifistic 274 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:03,780 But like a more Jedi like thing going on with Ahsoka after Shin was defeated 275 00:20:03,780 --> 00:20:09,060 she wanted to help her and she wanted to like, you know do something with her and 276 00:20:09,580 --> 00:20:12,900 I thought it was really cool because you don't always have to kill the bad guys 277 00:20:12,900 --> 00:20:17,820 Not that I want them to keep redeeming bad guys or anything like that necessarily but you know Star Wars is 278 00:20:17,820 --> 00:20:21,380 About redemption and we could see you know Shin 279 00:20:22,060 --> 00:20:26,340 potentially saved from her evil ways and go off to become one of 280 00:20:27,020 --> 00:20:31,820 Luke's students like that's happened before in Star Wars in the original canon 281 00:20:32,860 --> 00:20:37,860 that happened to a guy from not Splinter of the Mind's Eye, that's way too far back from a 282 00:20:38,860 --> 00:20:43,340 Dark Empire or Dark Empire 2 rather there was a guy who was like a you know 283 00:20:43,340 --> 00:20:48,180 Sith follower dark Jedi type of guy and Luke ended up turning him and then he ended up being an ally 284 00:20:48,700 --> 00:20:53,420 In like the Jedi Academy Chronicles or Jedi Academy books and stuff, which is super cool 285 00:20:53,420 --> 00:20:55,660 But anyway, so like I know I like that 286 00:20:57,580 --> 00:21:03,540 That softer approach being taken but I want my characters to be dangerous my heroes to be dangerous and threatening and capable of 287 00:21:03,940 --> 00:21:09,620 You know great destruction but then like hold back and choose to go the other way as opposed to my villains who are also 288 00:21:09,620 --> 00:21:16,500 competent and deadly incapable but who you know choose not to do that because they're evil and that's like what sets them apart, right? 289 00:21:16,500 --> 00:21:20,420 it's like the whole sheep dog and wolf thing like to the sheep a 290 00:21:20,780 --> 00:21:27,680 Sheep dog looks like a wolf and they're just as dangerous and scary but literally what sets apart the 291 00:21:28,780 --> 00:21:34,820 Sheep dog from the sheep is that he has the capacity for violence and yet he chooses to you know 292 00:21:34,820 --> 00:21:40,260 Broadly speaking as an illustration he chooses to use that to defend the sheep against the wolves 293 00:21:40,980 --> 00:21:43,840 But you know to the sheep they all have 294 00:21:44,780 --> 00:21:46,780 They they see them as the same way 295 00:21:47,140 --> 00:21:50,460 Anyway, there's something in my head rattling around about a sheep 296 00:21:51,020 --> 00:21:55,780 Suggesting that everybody have their fangs removed and then you know, the wolves aren't going to comply with that 297 00:21:55,780 --> 00:22:00,980 So then when the sheep dog have no fangs to use against the wolves, then the whole flock gets massacred 298 00:22:00,980 --> 00:22:05,860 Again because they have been rendered harmless as opposed to being, you know, peaceful 299 00:22:06,780 --> 00:22:12,580 So interesting stuff to talk about but yeah, I am I know I mean I overall enjoyed it. I overall liked it 300 00:22:13,420 --> 00:22:17,220 it was cool seeing Sabina as we're talking again and 301 00:22:17,900 --> 00:22:20,340 I mean, I honestly enjoyed more the Ahsoka stuff 302 00:22:20,340 --> 00:22:25,380 I enjoyed that Anakin flashback and to think that there's 20 of those hollow vids that he made for Ahsoka 303 00:22:25,380 --> 00:22:31,060 you know shortly before they parted ways is incredible and touching and 304 00:22:31,060 --> 00:22:37,340 Really cool. There is a little bit of a continuity issue though if you take things 305 00:22:38,380 --> 00:22:43,060 Literally the Clone Wars was three years long that outfit that he's wearing in the training video 306 00:22:43,060 --> 00:22:45,220 Which is the last one he made for her? 307 00:22:47,740 --> 00:22:51,080 Well, I guess he could have made it before the season 3 year 308 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:56,100 I think middle of season 3 they do a time jump a so like everybody gets new character models 309 00:22:56,100 --> 00:22:58,100 Ahsoka gets her more grown-up look 310 00:22:58,660 --> 00:23:03,020 Anakin gets his like revenge of the Sith look as well as Obi-Wan they go from having the armor 311 00:23:03,780 --> 00:23:07,840 Being like the animated Clone Wars like the micro series Clone Wars style basically 312 00:23:08,460 --> 00:23:15,820 Which is the early Clone Wars style of armor with the vom braces and vom. What is it? Von Bracen paltryn? Is that what it is? 313 00:23:16,500 --> 00:23:18,500 Yeah, there's like arm 314 00:23:18,500 --> 00:23:21,760 Armor that they have basically and that's Anakin's early 315 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:26,220 You know Clone Wars look and then he gets his late Clone Wars look is the same as the revenge of the Sith look 316 00:23:26,220 --> 00:23:28,780 And if I'm remembering correctly season 3 featured 317 00:23:29,740 --> 00:23:32,020 the planet of the father the son of the daughter 318 00:23:33,940 --> 00:23:37,820 And I believe that was season 3 but it wasn't until the middle of season 3 that there was a time jump 319 00:23:38,220 --> 00:23:42,580 And because Anakin is in his revenge of the Sith look in that one and so is Obi-Wan 320 00:23:43,300 --> 00:23:45,740 Doesn't Ahsoka still look young though? Wait a minute 321 00:23:45,740 --> 00:23:47,740 Maybe I'm just remembering that 322 00:23:47,740 --> 00:23:51,540 Anyway, it doesn't matter. I've gone on too long. I need to let you go 323 00:23:51,540 --> 00:23:58,020 I'm almost going as long as the the episode itself wasn't that's not good. So anyway, excuse me. Can you quiet down your car? 324 00:23:59,420 --> 00:24:07,020 Come on! Show some respect, I'm recording a Star Wars podcast, man. Anyway until next time folks. Take care. This is MJ signing out. I 325 00:24:07,020 --> 00:24:15,340 Hope you enjoyed that go to MJMunoz.com to leave any questions comments or other feedback you might have 326 00:24:15,900 --> 00:24:19,420 There you can find all of my analysis art and fiction. I 327 00:24:20,060 --> 00:24:24,360 cover books tokusatsu comic books anime and more 328 00:24:24,360 --> 00:24:40,360 Look around you're sure to find something else that you'll enjoy as well. This has been a story over everything production