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All right, welcome to the AdaptX podcast where we have conversations with individuals who

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are building accessible businesses advocating for inclusion or excelling an adaptive sports.

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Our intention is never to speak on behalf of those with disabilities by amplify their

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ideas and voices so more businesses and organizations can do the same.

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Today we're joined by Tim Alexander, speaker, author, athlete, husband.

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Tim, thanks for joining us today.

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Thank you so much for being here.

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Tim's out from Atlanta for a keynote at this YMCA presentation, sharing the role of the

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YMCA in your life as well as the adversity that you've overcome.

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Maybe we can start with the YMCA's role and both your upbringing and now are you involved

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in various capacities?

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Thank you so much, Brandon, for allowing me to be here from Birmingham, Alabama.

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My YMCA was the Northeast YMCA and I've been a part of the YMCA from a minor to teenager

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to young adult and still now involved with the YMCA.

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You know, just on the mission of building communities and developing our young adults

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through the comprehensive resources that we have.

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And you don't really know that growing up in it, but as you become older and wiser,

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now you're able to look back and see what they were doing and why they were doing based

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on the needs.

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So I'm very thankful for the YMCA.

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It's bigger than the YMCA song that we love.

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It's the belonging of the mission and each individual that makes up the mission.

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So thank you.

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Yeah, the reason that we personally loved working with the YMCA was like you mentioned

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that mission of creating access and inclusion, not only for people with disabilities, but

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all ages.

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I wonder if other gyms and organizations can kind of execute a similar model to kind

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of reduce some of those barriers and increase participation across all ages.

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What have you personally found in terms of the YMCA that has helped you post injury kind

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of just in your career as a whole?

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I think about going back home when I had my injury at 17 years old, we did not know anything

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about the handicapable community.

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If I'm being completely honest, that was one of the reasons why I was suicidal because

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we didn't have resources.

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We didn't have any exposure to an area where we knew the even first question to ask.

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And so I challenged and struggled a lot by just saying, if I'm going to be like this

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the rest of my life, it might as well pull the plug.

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And so I beat that moment and then feeling came back and I became a paraplegia from the

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waist down, but I still wasn't happy or whole in my mind or happy with myself due to a lack

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of resources.

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And quite frankly, you don't see a lot of chair users around, right?

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When you're in therapy, you see everybody that's injured or wounded.

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But once you get released to go back and transform in your own rehabilitation way, you don't

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see it.

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So I had to become, you know, it's a lot of quotes out there.

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There is not change.

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You become change.

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And so I immediately had to become what I wanted to see, right?

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While being a one day show, but I didn't have to do it alone.

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I was able to do it with the Northeast YMCA.

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And remember, I learned how to be a lifeguard at the YMCA.

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And so I remember becoming a paraplegic lifeguard.

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Thankfully, nobody ever drowned it, right?

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But I was still able to jump in there and get them.

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They just gave me an opportunity to live out my why, right?

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By starting with my what?

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And so from there, I started working with other departments and working with other programs.

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And it is true.

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Once you get your purpose, once you get your vision, once you get your mission and your

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statement and still doing your heart, then it will innately be a part of you wherever

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you go, wherever you grow.

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So here I am now, one of the most sought after speakers in this world, an influential leader.

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I'm still living on basic principles that I learned at the YMCA because we as people,

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we make different things hard, right?

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My cousin just graduated with his CDL license.

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And I said, okay, tell me the first thing you do when you get in your truck.

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He was like, what you mean?

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I said, tell me the first thing you do.

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Oh, I'm gonna check my mirrors.

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I'm gonna let my truck warm up.

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I'm gonna make sure my side mirrors and everything I can see.

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I said, yeah, that's the first thing you're supposed to do when you get in your car.

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So the farther we grow in life, sometimes the farther we grow away from the basic things.

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And so I've just learned that so that you don't get burnt out in life and through life

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or which are life, just always go back to the basics.

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And so I've been living off the basics.

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Never forget where you come from.

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Come back to see where you come from.

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Never forget that your resource help, that your resource help, right?

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Come back to see how your resources is helping.

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Never forget that you were alive even in a dark place.

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Come back and meet other people who may be in a dark place where you can be their light.

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Never forget that to whom much is given, much is required, which is a Christian principle,

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that the YMCA is built on Christian principles.

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So come back and see that to whom much is given, much is required.

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Never forget that you can never give honor to something that you haven't been exposed

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to.

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So this new world that you're exposed to, come back and expose it to our young adults

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who have never been to New Hampshire, who may never come to Massachusetts, who may never

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fly into Manchester airport.

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Come back and let them know that there is a world out there that's willing to embrace

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you and give you a sense of belonging, but you have to have the resources and become

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a resource, else you will never be able to see that, right?

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And seeing that is not common.

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I'm saying this for sale at a time, common sense ain't common, right?

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I got a friend that's partially impaired that I have to lead across the street.

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But as I'm leading them, I'm still like, hold up, you don't see this stop sign?

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You know, because I just forget sometimes, right?

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Sometimes we do forget when we caught up in that moment.

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But one day he said, man, I can see better than most people who got sight because what

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you see right now is your sight, but what you see for the future is your vision.

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You get what I'm saying?

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And so that's the key that we must always live outward, not about what we see right

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now in sight, but what we see for the future, which is our vision.

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I'm so thankful.

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And I come from a background that challenged us to imagine based on a realistic mind.

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I don't have unrealistic dreams.

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I have realistic achievable dreams that I know is going to take not only effort, but

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a valuable effort branded to get there.

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Sorry to give you that rant.

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No, no, that's exactly what I want.

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My role is always just to stay out of the way of the speaker.

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So at the core of kind of what you were mentioning there was representation.

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You left the hospital and you didn't see a lot of wheelchair users.

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And I think that's one of the things that we really try to advocate for is that like

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demystifying disability by including them in regular facets of life.

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So you might go to a gym and you look around and you don't see anyone in a wheelchair and

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you immediately think, oh, maybe this isn't the place for me.

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Right.

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But if you walk in and you see able-bodied individuals, wheelchair users, individuals

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of visual impairments, you start to think that, okay, maybe this is.

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So I think that's like the model that the why is after.

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It's a model that we're after at my gym.

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And I think it's essential for getting people involved in programs like this.

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Is that representation piece?

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Did you have anyone after your injury that you kind of like looked up to or that started

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you like guiding you in the right direction?

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Yeah.

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So I believe or not, I look up to a lot of people who've been through far greater things

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and I'm going through and growing through right now that still made it.

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So a person that I met in my journey was a gentleman who got hit by a train.

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He was a chair user for about 20 years.

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Right.

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He was doing better than what he was when he got hit through, through nutrition, through

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the ability to go out and be unique and understand that there is no physical limit to human

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achievement.

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There is no fitness limit to human achievement.

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If you have someone that's willing to have equipment and accessibility accessible for

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all, right?

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And willing to have a person to not focus on what you can do.

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There's no need for you to be like, we're going to focus on you doing leg press the

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entire time.

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I may not come back to your training, right?

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Because I already know that that's going to be a challenge for me to continue to do.

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I may can try, but then we got to also learn to really pour into people's screen.

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What can you do?

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Yeah, we call that bright spot to the gym.

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So like you can challenge clients in various ways and whenever we have a client with an

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SCI or with a lower body impairment, we're like, we're still going to try to strengthen

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legs because it's important to get you upstanding, trying to do different things.

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But we also want to kind of like you said, play to your strengths, emphasize bright spots,

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see what you can excel at and make sure that you leave the gym feeling accomplished.

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So I'll never forget I had, I left through, I was leaving the Y and I had to go to a facility

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called the Lakeshore Foundation.

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Yeah, I'm familiar with that.

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I was up at UAB, that's a partnership.

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They work heavy with the Y and I went up to the Lakeshore Foundation and it was like

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it was like a handicapable universe, right?

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Like everybody here was dealing with something like, you know, if you in this gym, you got

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something you growing through.

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Everybody's unique.

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Everybody is handicapped.

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But I remember at first I was like, man, I don't want to work out here because I was

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thinking I would never get better if I just do whatever chair use and everybody else is

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doing.

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Like, no, I want to go out there and work and work out in general society and go out

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there and go to the lifetime fitness or planet fitness or Riviera, whatever.

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But then I'll never forget I saw a basketball come across and once the athlete, always an

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athlete.

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And I'm a football player, but I saw this basketball and I'm like, man, let me see if

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I still got it had not even shot a basketball after my card today.

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So I'm dribbling and I shoot my first shot.

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I make my first shot.

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Get the ball again.

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Shoot my second shot.

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Make my second shot.

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Get the ball again.

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I go out to the three point line, let the bottom of the net.

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Boom.

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I hear coach yell out, I want to offer you right now to the University of Alabama to

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come and play wheelchair basketball.

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Say, man, I want to play wheelchair basketball.

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I want to learn how to walk again.

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I'm going to walk.

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He said, well, in the meantime, as you're learning how to walk again, we still want

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you to be an athlete.

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I did not know that I didn't have to give up walking to become a paraplegic athlete.

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I didn't know.

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I just thought like, Hey, this would hinder me.

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But no, this was going to give me the nutrition and the fitness and that coaching that I

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have every athlete loves every person loves to even feel like they were on the team.

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If they wasn't, I would still get that moment again.

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And that's what truly pushed me to understand.

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It's not about where you are.

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It's about where you're going and you can't base your eyes on what you see because it's

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temporary.

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Base your eyes on what's coming next.

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And so just that partnership.

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I'm so thankful that the YMCA was able to direct me to the Lakeshore Foundation.

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It was just a circle of faith and that's what truly allowed me to advocate.

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I became a poster boy for the, I was a poster boy for the Y became a poster boy for the

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Lakeshore Foundation.

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I became a role model.

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We created a program called Cunner Roll with me.

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We take away, I know how you feel until you really been in the chair all day and it gives

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you a little bit of knowing because you'll never know how we feel unless you have, you've

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been given an injury like that.

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You can know a little bit, but eventually you don't get up and get out and walk.

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So I was just able to be what I wanted to become based on an epic experience that was

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given me.

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And that's why I talked about in my message, the epic experience of the opportunity, right?

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Coming to the Y, coming to Lakeshore, coming back to the Y, coming back home.

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It allows me to be reminded of the experience that allowed me to participate in that created

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an image of connection that said, I can do this, but not only I can do this, other handicapable

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communities in the world can do it too.

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And so that's why I live my life is saying, okay, what are you doing for the handicapable

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community?

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Right?

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How are we making their life accessible for all?

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How are we giving them the same opportunity as the next person?

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Because now I know, because I've seen life from walking one day to rolling the nicks,

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now trying to re-walk.

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So as soon as I figure it out, I turn around and advocate to help somebody else figure

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it out.

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I mean, the Lakeshore is one in a million.

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We use some of their resources.

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Dr. Rimmer from the Lakeshore has the AIM Free manual and they just opened a sports

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performance lab.

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They're doing a bunch of research on wheelchair racing and trying to come up with better standards

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for Paralympic athletes.

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So that's awesome.

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Like obviously that's like the gold standard, but then we try to impact like local communities

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and all the regular recreational activities so you can continue to participate.

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I was wondering, this is a question that we ask some of our guests who have gone through

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like TBIs, SCIs, do you think an acquired disability and losing a goal of yours is more

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challenging than someone who might have a lifelong disability?

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Yeah.

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Give me what you mean by acquired.

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Yeah.

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Just like, so when you were a senior, you were in your accident and beforehand you had

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these visions and you had these dreams and then you were in a traumatic accident versus

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someone who might be in a wheelchair since they were born.

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Do you think it's a different experience and kind of how do you think people kind of cope

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with that change?

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It is very different and a different way of knowing this happened to me.

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I was born like this or this happened to me or like I met a kid who was pushed in a pool

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at five and now she's a part of the handicapped world community.

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So it's different strokes for different folks.

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That's what I like to say.

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Different strokes for different folks.

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So I'm like Pepsi, so I'm like Coke, right?

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But when you start coming to talking about what you like and what you dislike, then that

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opens up a door for you having to explain.

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And sometime what you explain can either help someone or hinder someone.

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And so what I try to always do, man, for me, I understand and I'm always very, very conscious

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of who I'm talking to and what I'm talking about because I was complaining one day because

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I couldn't stop having stasms.

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But then I met someone who's never had stasms.

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So what really helped me is knowing my personnel, but also understanding that yes, it's different,

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but it's the differences that allow us to make a greater difference.

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We still connect because we are different.

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Everybody's different.

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The way we live, what we dress, what we like, it's different.

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It's different all around you, but it still allows you to make a greater difference.

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So that's how I kind of look at you boring like this, this happened to you or this just

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happened.

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That's how I kind of look at it.

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Yes, it's a different lifestyle.

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It's a different lifestyle song.

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I meet people all the time who have no passion of walking the gear and that's okay because

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that's their desire.

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It's not my desire.

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My desire is I still going to try.

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Although I've been given a 5% chance, although it ain't happened yet, that's still my desire,

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man, but I'm not going to make you feel bad because that's not your desire.

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I just tried a lobster roll.

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It was okay to me.

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You was like, I don't eat them.

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You know what I'm saying?

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It's okay.

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Man, the guy was like, it's not that I don't like them.

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It's just I'm allergic to seafood.

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Man, I'm afraid and honest.

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I love them.

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So different strokes for different folks.

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And so instead of focusing on the differences or what makes us different, let's focus on

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what connections we may have because we all want and like some of the same things.

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And if we are part of the handicapable community, all we want is to live a healthy, long, accessible

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life, being able to do things for our own, own our own time and not having to always

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have to wait on someone if we're able to do that.

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Or if we have to have a caregiver, I had to have a caregiver for about four or five years.

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My uncle was my caregiver.

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He left his job to be my caregiver.

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He had to clothe me.

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He had to feed me.

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He had to base me.

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He was had to take care of me.

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My body was performing like a 17 year, a 17 month old.

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You know what I'm saying?

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And, but he still allowed me to have my own personal space.

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Yeah.

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So it's like everyone has their own goals and their own goals.

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The fact that your goals different than someone else's doesn't diminish the value of their

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goals.

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It doesn't diminish.

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But what, but what glorifies the dignity of the, of the goal is, is we find a common

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ground, which is community.

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That's why community is what you and I have in common.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I think one of the barriers that prevents a lot of people from being more inclusive

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or accessible is communication etiquette.

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Some people aren't sure what to say when they see someone in a wheelchair.

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I'm sure.

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Yeah.

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You get that all the time.

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You can see like a little kid might walk up and look at your wheelchair and their mom

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goes, Hey, don't, don't look at that person.

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Don't talk to that person.

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And it just kind of perpetuates this narrative of like, Oh, stay away from anyone who's different

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than you.

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Um, regarding etiquette or language, when you meet someone for the first time, like

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if you're walking into a gym and I'm your trainer and we haven't met before, what would

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you want me to ask you or talk to you about?

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I would honestly, I would ask that you greet me and treat me as you would do somebody else

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walking in the gym.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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Like don't, don't devalue me because I look different than you because when I'm looking

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at you, I'm like, you look different than me.

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How in the world you on two feet and I'm on four wheels and got two feet.

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So I'm already like, you look way different than me.

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Right.

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So it's already a different, but just you pushing me and challenging me the same way

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you were pushing challenge anyone.

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That's what I like.

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I remember my therapist, her name is Natalie Shannon.

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She's awesome.

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She's five foot.

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We used to do therapy and this was me coming back to do therapy for a fourth time.

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And I remember going to therapy one day and I said, before we stop, I just want to know,

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I want to ask, have you read the doctor report?

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She was like, yeah, I read it.

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And I said, what did it say?

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She said, well, you know, we can tell that you, you have some limitations through walking.

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You only have a 5% chance you haven't been able to move and I'm sure you have no, you

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don't have any movement right now.

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Do you?

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Right.

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Although she knew I did it.

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She still asked.

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And I said, well, why do you ask questions?

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You already know.

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I don't know.

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You probably got feeling right before you came in here.

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And that meant so much to me.

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And so I asked her a question that I never forget.

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And I said, do you believe I'll be able to walk again?

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And she said, it ain't really about if I believe or not.

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It's about what you believe.

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And that meant so much to me that she was willing to say, if you believe it, my job is to help

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get you to what you believe.

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And so when I meet people, when I, when I, when I, when I, when I get with traders, when

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I advocate is match my belief realistically.

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Cause with technology today, you can walk.

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The doctor said I had a 5% chance, but if you put me in some far as gone braces right

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now, I can lean with it, throw my leg and walk.

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It's going to be, it's going to take me two hours from here to the front, but I can do

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it.

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And it's all about what are you willing to do?

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And so I just like for people to don't assume my friend told me some other day, he said,

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I tell my son all the time, don't be the kid in the class thinking you know it all so that

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you don't look like, so that this, this is what he really see.

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I can't see it.

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See, don't be the kid in the front of the class that's just yelling out answers because

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you think you know it all, but you're making yourself look not smart at all.

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Right.

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So oftentimes when we don't know something, we pretend to know and the person who pretends

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to know don't know nothing at all.

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So instead of pretending, oh, he can't do this or he may not want to do this or he may

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not want to get out of the chair and get them on the ground and do push ups or this and

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that don't pretend to know, just ask what you don't know.

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So when that little kid runs up and that parent grabs away, the first thing I said was chair

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this starts at home.

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Hey, man, listen, it's nothing wrong with him running up.

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The kid may think I'm that grandfather or grandmother.

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Do y'all have any chair user in the community?

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Oh yeah.

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He thinks you're his grandma.

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Yeah.

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But don't pull him away.

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Allow him to steal, come up and to steal, be curious, right?

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Because that gives that person a sense of humor that, wow, a little child doesn't think

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of a dinosaur or anything like that.

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That, oh, let me run up because they like wheels or different things.

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So different strokes for different folks.

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Yeah.

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So it's just like, so you said like to presume competence, ask questions, anyone that kind

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of adopts that like growth mindset.

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When I'm working with someone who's a wheelchair user versus a client who might have had a knee

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replacement or an injury, we're always just trying to figure out what they're able to

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do.

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Put together a list of exercises that kind of match that level.

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Talk about their goals for you.

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You might want to walk again, but we also have to address global strength and everything

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else.

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So find a way to kind of like collaborate between your goals and what I think as a fitness

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professional would benefit you like globally from a health standpoint.

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So my goal right now is just to be healthy outside of walking again.

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I want to be healthy.

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I want to compete at the highest level.

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I want to ski.

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I want to be able to do anything I can do that my health permits me to do.

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That's my goal and I, and I attack it every day.

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Yeah.

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I hit on the ME that you want, just kind of that story as a whole.

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I know I'd reading about it earlier this week when I was doing my research.

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But yeah, do you want to maybe tell the listeners about kind of how that came about?

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The Emmy Award recipient was able to receive the Emmy Award just based on documentation

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and fighting and peaceful protest for the UAB bowling and rifle free UAB movement that

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took place in 2014.

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You know, I'll be talking here today about utilizing your resources as students.

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We did not have a lot of resources.

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Right.

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UAB is a top five medical schools, top 10 youngest in the country, but we still struggle

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with resources on how do we get our story out with social media?

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The number one influence that we have instant wise is our cell phones.

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So I said, we don't have money for cameras.

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We don't have money for effect for for to be falling around by the proper.

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See, we're going to picture everything, we're going to document everything and we're going

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to take notes and everything that we did.

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We captured this moment because we was we believed in how big this moment was.

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It wasn't just for me.

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It was my guy Mike.

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It was my girl Courtney.

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It was my boy Tray that all of us that kept our devices and became the resource.

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And when we brought our program back, our program at UAB in December 2, 2014, I gave

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a press conference and told the team when we come back, we'll be bowels by our first

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year back.

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We're going to win from championships and the world will know our name.

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Sam Hutt came down, Marty Smith came down, ESPN came down and said, T.A. you're crazy.

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I said, I'm a crazy believer.

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Right.

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I just believed in the program.

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I believed in the community and Brandon, I believed in the program and community when

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they announced we were coming back in six months after we raised $48 million as students

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that we documented and capitalized everything.

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When they announced we was coming back, June 2, 2015, six months later, they nationally

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ranked us 132.

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It's only like a hundred and yes, only like 130 teams.

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We were ranked at the bottom.

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And so we took this negative publicity and that became our campaign.

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And I said, coach, let's not run away from this.

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Let's run to it.

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Hashtag 132.

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They don't know.

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They've ranked us out of 130 some RITs.

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We're the last one, but no one knows our narrative.

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No one knows what we believe in.

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And we documented man from our phone.

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We put it all together.

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And when the sidewalk film festival came, we all sat down in a row.

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My guy Mike, my guy Courtney, my guy trade, who was going to UAB for media.

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We all sit in a room and we became a producer.

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We became a director and we told the story that we wanted to tell it.

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Didn't think anything was going to happen.

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We sent it to into the sidewalk festival.

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It was like, what you think?

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I said, we told the truth.

475
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He was honest and hey, I'm not a cry.

476
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:13,840
It made me cry.

477
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,120
It made me want to run through a wall.

478
00:26:16,120 --> 00:26:18,960
We got to get the community out to come and see this.

479
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:24,440
The IMAX Museum in Birmingham, Alabama was like, man, we like this documentary.

480
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,760
So we invited the whole UAB family and everybody to come out and we're watching it in like

481
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,240
four max and it's all around us.

482
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,680
And we're sending the audience like, man, we really got something here.

483
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:43,120
And so a few weeks after that, we get an email from the National Indian Ward Ceremony organization.

484
00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:45,000
And I think it's a scale.

485
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,560
I'm like, what?

486
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:52,240
Like this is serious and so I never forget the whole team went up and I'm sitting at

487
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:58,360
the table with the CEO who's over the image and man, honestly, we're eating the meal.

488
00:26:58,360 --> 00:27:02,160
It's probably the first on core meal I ever ate in my life.

489
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,720
Like I saw stuff on my plate.

490
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,960
I'm saying, like, do I eat this?

491
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,720
Like it was like plants and I didn't know what it was.

492
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,720
It was like purple leaves.

493
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,040
I had never seen purple cabbage in my life.

494
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:18,760
But anyway, the CEO asked and he says, Hey, you're Mr. Alexander, you're nominated for

495
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:19,760
any.

496
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:28,160
He says, how do you feel if how would you feel if you're not an Emmy recipient?

497
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,760
I saw what everybody else was doing when he asked me this question.

498
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,480
It was they set up prostrated.

499
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,840
They wiped their mouths with their nice handkerchiefs that they have.

500
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,200
So I did the same thing like my mouth.

501
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,960
I saw people drinking water or drunk water that crossed my hands over like everybody

502
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:44,960
else was doing.

503
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,360
I'm leaving him and said, even if I don't win, I'll always be able to say I was nominated

504
00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:50,360
for an Emmy.

505
00:27:50,360 --> 00:27:51,360
Yeah, absolutely.

506
00:27:51,360 --> 00:27:52,360
Right.

507
00:27:52,360 --> 00:27:55,640
And he said, that's the best response I've ever given.

508
00:27:55,640 --> 00:28:01,440
Five seconds after that, as they're playing the stage in the background, the sports program

509
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:08,760
feature, I get word that I just became an Emmy award recipient just like Charles Barkley,

510
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,880
just like John Madden, just like some of the great celebrities in this world.

511
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,720
They're an Emmy awards one and two, three time back to back.

512
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,840
And they asked me to come out there and speak.

513
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,760
I've only had two bad speeches in my life.

514
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:25,280
The first speech is when I was speaking in Denver, Colorado, when I found out my father,

515
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:30,280
who at the time was struggling with dementia, he came up missing right before I got on stage.

516
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,000
The second time was when I gave my Emmy award.

517
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:38,560
I was so caught off guard because I wasn't expecting to win that if you watched the video

518
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,000
that we show today, I kind of stutter a little bit.

519
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:47,360
And all I can say, the greatest gift is the gift of giving to who much is given, what

520
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:48,360
just required.

521
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:49,360
Y'all have a great day.

522
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:54,680
I didn't know what else to say because I could not believe that I had just received

523
00:28:54,680 --> 00:29:00,120
one of the highest rewards for humanity just by serving my community.

524
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,480
And it changed my life.

525
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:04,480
You know what I'm saying?

526
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:10,440
I never knew how big it was until I see people who have received Emmys End.

527
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:17,440
I look at that great reward all the time and that's just testament to me to go farther

528
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:18,440
and do more.

529
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:23,560
Yeah, it's an interesting contrast between before earlier you mentioned how after you

530
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,520
accent you want to take your life and now you're achieving all these things.

531
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,320
How much better is your life because of your disability?

532
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,160
It has my opposition, it's my inspiration.

533
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:39,080
This has truly inspired me because there are days.

534
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:46,840
I mean, you know, I don't say that I struggle, but I have to be mentally strong every day

535
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:52,520
because when my kids are running or when I go around a family member, what do you do

536
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:57,360
when you go around a family member's house and a child sees you in a wheelchair?

537
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:04,040
I think one upstairs and say, come on, Uncle Teal, what do you do?

538
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:08,640
So you got to still be able to be inspiring when you have those moments.

539
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,280
And so that's why I live out loud.

540
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:17,080
I have an image on my body that says push, pray until something happens, chosen royalty

541
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:23,120
on my body right now because I'm using my life as a living example of we don't need

542
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,120
it to be easy.

543
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,920
We just need it to be possible.

544
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,160
But as I told CEO Michelle, I do it with a smile on my face.

545
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,360
I do it willingly.

546
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:32,840
I do it positively.

547
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:33,840
I do it.

548
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:34,840
Why?

549
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:39,560
Because I've already faced the most difficult time in life.

550
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,800
People say nobody gets a second chance in life.

551
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:42,800
I got three chances.

552
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,280
I flatlined three times in the hospital.

553
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,160
And even after I flatlined three times and they brought me back to life and said, you

554
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:54,720
have a severe brain damage, they still said you only have a 5% chance of making it to see

555
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:55,720
tomorrow.

556
00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:00,480
So 17 years later, here I am still challenging the status quo.

557
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:06,240
I started first with my mind because I'm still only giving a 5% chance of making it to see

558
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,240
tomorrow.

559
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,080
But what gives me a better chance is my nutrition.

560
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:18,240
What gives me a better chance is my perspective toward fitness, making the right food options,

561
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:26,160
living a very balanced and visionary life and understanding that it is what it is.

562
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,360
And really, this is what I tell myself.

563
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,200
I used to always here suck it up.

564
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,880
Now I embrace this up because it ain't nothing good about me.

565
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,600
The only thing good about being in a wheelchair sometimes is you ain't got to wait in lines.

566
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:38,600
You get free perks.

567
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,920
You ain't got to wait in line if you go to Disney.

568
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,720
You get to get on the plane.

569
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,880
Just a lot of perks that come with it.

570
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,880
But that don't mean sometimes when it's cold.

571
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,000
You put your chair in your car and you look back, your chair gone down.

572
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,880
Or when you're out in public and you know you've been great on your bowel bladder or

573
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,480
your bladder plan and you end up having an accident.

574
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,800
And now you got to stop and go and change clothes and then come out.

575
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,160
Hey, what made you change?

576
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,640
And now you got to explain yourself.

577
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,040
And you really don't like explaining yourself, right?

578
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:19,160
So those are the things that make you become so mentally driven and so mentally strong

579
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:23,080
because you don't know what you're going to face, but you got to welcome it.

580
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,680
That's why I don't fly in.

581
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,320
If I have an event, you would never see me and never scroll word.

582
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,360
But if I have an event, you will never see me fly in a day off because you never know

583
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:33,360
what's going to happen.

584
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:34,360
Yeah, absolutely.

585
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:35,360
You see what I'm saying?

586
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,280
So that's just my life.

587
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:43,120
Be prepared for the unexpected, be prepared for the unexpected, but being prepared is

588
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,120
very minimal because I have to prepare my mind every day.

589
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,600
Every morning I listen to a song called optimistic.

590
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:56,000
It's about a group called, it's about a group called Sounds of Blackness, man.

591
00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:01,600
Coming to America, they have a song called optimistic and the song says you can win

592
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,640
as long as you keep your head to the sky.

593
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:05,640
Yeah.

594
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:10,200
So, a lot of these episodes we wrap up like our taglines, making fitness accessible.

595
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,720
So the question, the question that we ask all of our guests is what do you think needs

596
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,240
to be done for the industry to be more accessible as a whole?

597
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:23,760
I think every gym needs to have more than two accessible equipment.

598
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:29,360
If you have a gym, everything in that gym needs to be accessible, accessible in a way

599
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:35,680
that your family members would say, I'm comfortable enough of laying on this bench.

600
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:40,920
I'm comfortable enough of doing this if you have to walk away and help somebody else knowing

601
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:41,920
that you're coming back.

602
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:47,400
I don't have to think twice about is there a place I can get out and stretch or a wheelchair

603
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:54,520
height massage table I can get on and lay out to always think of those who need you

604
00:33:54,520 --> 00:34:00,120
to think about and to make your place accessible.

605
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,680
Fitness is all about how accessible you can be for others.

606
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,880
And so I just want people to do that.

607
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:11,280
And by doing that, people will be able to grow in health and have a healthy mind because

608
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:17,360
they have a place where they can operate and do fitness and bring for transformative growth.

609
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,320
So, Tim, thanks for joining us today.

610
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:20,320
Thank you for coming out.

611
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,320
It was nice to meet you.

612
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,120
Thank you so much.

613
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,440
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614
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615
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,400
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