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I'm going to invite you to, if you have your

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Bibles, go with me. We're going to the book of

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2 Corinthians chapter 12. 2 Corinthians chapter

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12 and verse 7. Amen. And I'm going to point

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you to a passage of Scripture here that I think

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many of us have heard or are familiar with, written

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by Paul. And I want you to... Read along with

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me in verse 7. We're going to read verse 7 through

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verse 10 of 2 Corinthians chapter 12, giving

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you a time to flip there or scroll there. Amen.

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How many of you are there now? Amen. All right.

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All right. All right. You guys are on point today.

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Praise God. It reads this way. And lest I should

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be exalted above measure by the abundance. of

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the revelations, a thorn in the flesh was given

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to me, a messenger of Satan, to buffet me, lest

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I should be exalted above measure. Concerning

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this thing, I pleaded with the Lord three times

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that it might depart from me. And he said to

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me, my grace is sufficient for you. My strength

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is made perfect in weakness. Therefore, most

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gladly, I will rather boast in my infirmities

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that the power of Christ may rest upon me. Therefore,

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I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches,

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in needs. in persecutions, in distress for Christ's

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sake. For when I am weak, then I am strong. Amen.

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Why don't we pray? Father, we thank you for your

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spirit that we feel so strongly, so beautifully,

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wonderfully in this place today. God, we have

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come. as a group of people lord with a made -up

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mind to worship you today to gather in this place

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lord for such a time as this and now god i ask

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that as we go into your word that you would speak

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to us anoint our hearing so that he who has an

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ear would hear what the spirit is saying to the

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church god and anoint my lips of clay god to

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speak in this moment in this moment god what

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you want to express to your church, your people.

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God, in Jesus' name we pray, amen. Everyone say

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amen. I'm going to give this a title right on

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the cusp, Thorn Theology. Someone say thorn theology.

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I have taught in Bible college for many years.

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In fact, I am now the director of our district

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Bible college, and we have lots of theological

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classes. different subjects, pastoral theology

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and apostolic theology. But you know what's not

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in our curriculum? Thorn theology. But maybe

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we'll add that, Brother Jose, after today, huh?

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We might add that to the curriculum because thorn

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theology is something that the Apostle Paul introduces

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us today in this very transparent portion of

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writing. As he is opening up to the church in

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Corinth in his second letter, a church that he's

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developed a relationship with as an apostle that

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he helped establish. He's writing some things.

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And as typical of Paul, not only does he lay

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theological foundations, not only does he teach

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the word of God and biblical spiritual principles

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of Christ. the doctrines of Christ, but also

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at times he gives the reader a view. He opens

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up his life to the reader so that the reader

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might see or the church might understand some

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of his own personal understandings, revelations,

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and for the reader to see that even him as the

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apostle was... still growing and learning a work

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in progress. From his very encounter on the road

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to Damascus, we see that the life of the Apostle

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Paul is kind of an open book. A little different

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from the other apostles and disciples that were

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fortunate enough to learn under the instruction

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of Christ, such as Peter or John or some of the

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other disciples. Peter was one of the more prominent

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ones. But Paul's life is a little different because

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he was not a one of the original 12 disciples.

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He wasn't handpicked in the way that Peter, James

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and John and some of the others were in the beginning

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of Christ's ministry. At that time, Paul was

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still very much a Pharisee and he had an anti.

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Christ theological point of view and made it

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his personal mission that as the church was being

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formed to persecute the church. As many of us

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know, this was Saul of Tarsus before he became

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the Apostle Paul. And so his trajectory looks

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very different from that of the other disciples

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of the other apostles. And it gives him a very

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unique perspective. on the Christian faith, very

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unique perspective on what it means to serve

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God. He was not an eyewitness to many of the

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things that Christ did in his three and a half

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years of ministry, but he probably, like many

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others, heard and was a listener through secondhand

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information about what Christ did, but he had

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that encounter. that moment on the road to Damascus

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as he was intent on persecuting and carrying

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out every threat that he breathed out against

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the church. He made it his personal mission in

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life to persecute the church. But there we see

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in the book of Acts, I believe it was Acts 9,

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where God encounters him in that famous scene

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in Scripture where he is probably knocked off

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of his horse. blinded by a bright light, and

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a voice from heaven tells him, why are you persecuting

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me? And tells him it's hard to kick against the

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goads. And he has this personal encounter with

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God. And we see from the very beginning of Paul's

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journey, this very transparent life, one that

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is... brought to the forefront, one that we begin

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to see just how real God begins to work in his

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life and how his life is an open book from that

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moment. All the dirty details are left there

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on the front page of Scripture. He isn't afforded

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the opportunity to go back and scrub out and

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redact some of the things in there. It's all

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put out there, all the things that... that we

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may want to gloss over or tuck away. It's all

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out there in the open for everyone to see. But

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this really set the stage for the kind of apostle

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that he would become. A few weeks ago, we talked

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about, or I mentioned a little bit about Paul

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and the struggles that he confesses to us about

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how there is this other law at work in him that...

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that even when he wants to do good, there is

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this contrary force, his flesh, that is pulling

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him in the other direction. And I find that refreshing.

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I find that just encouraging for me to know that

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even somebody like him was struggling and battling

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within himself. And in that same spirit, in that

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same... Type of that same theme or that same

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spirit, the same atmosphere. We see Paul writing

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yet again about an area of his life that as for

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me as a Christian, I find once again refreshing.

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In chapter 12, he begins and he starts talking

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about these wonderful things that God has shown

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him. I won't read it there, but you're free to

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read it on your own. He talks about a vision.

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That was so profound, so majestic, so supernatural.

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He said, I don't even know if I was having an

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out -of -body experience or a bodily experience.

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But he talks about this moment, this divine,

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supernatural moment that he has. And he said,

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the things that I saw were inexpressible. He

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said, I can't even repeat these things. They're

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so holy. They're so awesome. They're so powerful.

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I can't even put into words the things that I

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saw. It would cheapen it. If I try to explain

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in human terms what happened, what I saw, it

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would cheapen, it would dilute it. It would water

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it down. It was so awesome. It was so holy. And

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so, you know, he's talking about this great thing

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that God is doing. God is showing him in his

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life. And he doesn't even tell us what it is.

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He's like, just trust me. It was awesome. It

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was great. And in the moment that he's telling

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his readers, he's telling the church about these

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great things, it must have dawned on him there

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that as he's expressing these things, as he's

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talking about the great height that God has taken

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him to, talking about the wonderful things that

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God has blessed him to be able to experience

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and to see, not just with his natural eye, but

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with his spiritual eye, he has seen things that

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perhaps nobody has ever seen or ever will see.

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I mean, you know, Paul is just talking about

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these wonderful things, but then he says in verse

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7, unless I should be exalted above measure by

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the abundance of the revelation, he said, a thorn

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in the flesh was given to me. He said, a messenger

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of Satan to buffet me, or in other words, to

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harass me, to torment me, lest I be exalted above

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measure. So Paul begins to tell us about an area

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of his life that is a touchy subject. He begins

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to show us that in spite of the great knowledge,

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in spite of the wonderful things, the blessings

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of the Lord and his life and the great places

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that God has allowed him to go as a man of God,

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as a preacher, as an apostle, he says, but there

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is this one issue that I have in my life that

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has kind of brought me back down to earth. He

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tells us that despite these heavenly things that

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he's experiencing in his life, that there is

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this thing that keeps his feet grounded right

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here in this world. Lest he become boastful,

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lest he become proudful, lest he think that he

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is somebody greater than he truly is. He said,

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there is this one thing in my life, and he calls

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it a thorn. Someone say a thorn. Calls it a thorn.

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And he wants us to understand that serving God

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is beautiful, but even roses have thorns. Can

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I tell you that on your way to smelling the roses

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that God has, you're going to encounter some

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thorns. And sometimes those thorns... are not

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so easily removed. And so Paul is telling us,

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look, there is this thing in my life and it's

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a messenger of Satan. And now that's an interesting

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term that he uses, a messenger of Satan. In the

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original word, that word messenger is the same

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root word for angel. So he's not just talking

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about some... Random thing that happens in life.

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We all know that life is filled with just sort

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of accidents and random things that come. Just

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the rain that falls on the just and the unjust.

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There are just difficulties that we deal with

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in life. Amen? Let me give you an aging or a

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hurting body. Amen, right? I got no amens when

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I said that. Help me out, folks. There's nothing

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we can do about getting older. Now, God, can

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you turn back the hands of time? Well, that's

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just a fact of life. That you're not going to

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feel as robust and as strong as you were when

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you were, you know, a young whippersnapper. And

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all the energy in the world, you know, that's

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just life. And there are other things that are

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just part of life. Paul's not talking about just...

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Things that happen because life in general, like

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Jesus said, in this world, there will be trouble.

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There's going to be trouble. We live in an age.

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We will get sick sometimes. Amen. That person

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at work sneezes on you. You're like, why didn't

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you call in sick? You're not getting any awards

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for coming in here. You know, you're not. Stay

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home. Because we know that if you get around

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somebody that sneezes, you've got the flu. There's

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a good chance if you're not careful, right, you're

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going to get. You're going to get sick. That's

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just a fact of life. If you got sick because

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you were hanging around someone that was sneezing

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and coughing, don't go blame the devil. No, wear

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a mask next time. Or don't get around that person.

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The devil is after. No, that's just, there's

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sickness. There's viruses. There's bacteria.

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These are just normal things that happen. And

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can we become discouraged? Can that kind of add

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on to whatever it is? Absolutely. I'm not saying

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don't pray that God would heal you. I'm not saying

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that those things are not real. They are real.

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But what Paul is talking about here is not just

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the facts of life or the realities of living

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in a broken world and living in a broken and

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an aging and a deteriorating body. He's not talking

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about that, folks. He's talking about something

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that hell. or that the enemy has done against

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him. He's talking about something that is purposeful,

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that has been strategically planted in his life,

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that God himself has allowed. Now this is going

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to be an uncomfortable moment, an uncomfortable

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subject for us today, but this whole series is

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about the battles. Someone say the battles. The

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battles that build us. We think that getting

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built in God, growing in God, developing in our

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relationship with Christ is just reading another

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book and attending another seminar and going

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to another service and getting prayed for more.

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Those things are wonderful and they can help.

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But I come today, the Holy Ghost sent me here

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today to talk about thorn theology. Thorn theology.

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This is nothing you're going to get. You're not

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going to get this in a book, my friend. You're

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not going to get this with the latest best -selling,

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you know, top 10 Christian book on Amazon. You're

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not going to get this on a YouTube clip. You're

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not going to get this on a podcast. Man, look

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at all these notes. This is foreign theology.

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These are things that we learn about God and

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His plan and His purpose in our life by simply

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allowing God to bring us through those valleys,

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allowing God to work in us, and trusting Him.

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And still serving him and loving him and giving

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of him, of ourself to him, even when he doesn't

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do the thing that we so desperately want him

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to do. The question before us today is not whether

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you can serve God when things are going right.

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Not when you can serve God when it's all, you

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know, rose petals and a garden, you know, a bed

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of roses. But can we still serve him and love

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him and serve others when there's a thorn in

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our life? Can we still pray with thorns? Can

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we still worship? Let me tell you something.

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If you can learn how to serve God with a thorn,

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there's no devil in hell that can ever cause

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you to backslide. Come on. If you can learn how

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to keep on pressing on and serving God and come

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to church Sunday after Sunday, if you can keep

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on worshiping, keep on giving, keep on doing,

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with a thorn in your life, let me tell you, you've

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got longevity in your spirit. You're the kind

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of saint that's going to endure to the end. This

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is the key. The key to being saved. We think

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that you get baptized, filled with the Holy Ghost

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in Jesus' name, and that's all that it takes

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to be saved. No, that's the starting point. If

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you haven't been baptized, you've got to get

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baptized in the name of Jesus, be filled with

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His Spirit, and salvation comes. But listen,

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it's not just that. The Bible says, Jesus said,

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He that endures to the end shall be saved. Which

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is why we don't preach the once saved, always

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saved gospel. The Bible says to work out your

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salvation. Someone say work it out. Come on,

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say it again. Work it out. Work out your salvation,

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he said, with fear and trembling. And Paul is

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giving us thorn theology so that we can work

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out our salvation. And he says about this thorn,

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a thorn is a painful thing. It hurts. It might

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wound you. It might cripple you in some way.

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But he said, look, in verse, go with me to your

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Bibles again. He said in verse 8, he said, concerning

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this thing. Now, he doesn't tell us what it is.

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I'd like to know what it was. You know, what

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was that thorn? Scholars. speculate about what

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the thorn might be. They think that perhaps a

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thorn was a physical ailment. Others think that

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perhaps it was more just a spiritual thing, an

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oppression. And others, they think maybe it was

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a relationship or somebody who was a thorn. I

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heard an amen. I've got a couple of thorns. My

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neighbor. No, I'm just kidding. We don't know

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what it is. Amen. So while Paul's being transparent,

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I mean, he's not showing us all of his cards.

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He's not saying, but he said concerning this

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thing, I pleaded with the Lord three times that

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it might depart from me. Now, taking into account

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everything that I have learned about Paul, Paul

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was a man of prayer. Paul was a man of the spirit.

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He walked in the spirit. I think Paul had a clear

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and consistent connection with God. I think that

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when Paul prayed, most of the times God answered.

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That's just my perception of Paul is that Paul

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was a man of prayer and that he believed in the

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doctrine of prayer. How many of you believe in

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prayer today? Come on, how many of you believe

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in prayer today? And how many of you know that

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God is a God who answers prayers? So for Paul

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to say, I prayed about this thing on three separate

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occasions. Now, he had marked these moments in

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his mind where he had prayed earnestly to God.

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God, here I am again, little old me. It's me

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again, God. And I've got this one thing. And

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if you would just remove this one thorn, Lord,

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life would be so much easier. And then God told

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him, no. All right, well, maybe there's just

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something else I need to learn. You know, maybe

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I'm not ready yet. You know, these are the things

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that we tell ourselves when God doesn't answer

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according to our wishes. Well, maybe there must

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be another lesson. And so some time went by,

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and he prayed again. And the answer was still

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no. He said, well, Paul, maybe it's just not

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my season. Huh? Maybe the next season God's going

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to do. This is just not my season. And so more

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time goes by and he prays again and still the

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answer is no. Can I tell you that no is also

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an answer? Someone say no is an answer. Sometimes

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God has answered your prayer. And the problem

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is that you just haven't accepted what the answer

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is. And we keep praying for God to change his

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mind. And God said, no, on this one, you're the

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one that's going to have to change. So he said,

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praise and praise and praise. And God keeps saying,

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no, no, I'm not going to do it. And there came

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a point where Paul realized, okay, if God's not

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going to answer this specific thing, there must

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be a reason. And the Lord spoke to him. You see,

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God's going to answer you. It may not be what

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you want to hear, but watch what he tells Paul

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in verse 9. Look at this. Look at this with me.

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And he said to him, my grace, someone say my

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grace. My grace is sufficient for you. For my

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strength is made perfect in weakness. So God's

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answer to Paul's plea to remove this painful.

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thorn in his flesh in his life was that listen

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in other words I'm not going to remove this but

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here's what I'm going to do for you Paul because

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I love you because I'm still your God because

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I haven't abandoned you Paul just because I didn't

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answer you in the way that you had hoped or dreamed

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of Paul I'm still your God and I'm still In control.

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I haven't stopped being your God. I still love

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you with an everlasting love. I've got a plan

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for you that's unshakable. But Paul, and saint

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of God, this is what you needed. The reason why

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it's still there is so that my grace would be

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sufficient for you. I want you to understand

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that not everything will be fixed. Overnight,

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not everything will be removed in our life according

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to our liking. And that is very difficult for

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us to accept at times because we have never stopped

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believing. We never stopped confessing that God

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can do it. But there are certain things that

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God says, the reason I have allowed the enemy

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to touch this area of your life, the reason I've

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allowed this problem to persist is so that you.

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can grow in grace and so that you will understand

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that my grace is more than enough. But there

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are two things that Paul gets a revelation of,

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and I'll be just a few more moments. Amen. Two

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things that Paul gets a revelation that I pray

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that every one of us here today, the Holy Spirit

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wants you to get a revelation of two things.

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Number one, the grace of God. And number two,

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the strength of God. He said, number one, he

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said, my grace is sufficient for you. You're

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learning. The value of grace. God is trying to

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teach somebody here today. What grace is all

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about. Because we have been fed, many of us,

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a false concept of grace. That grace is simply

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the favor of the Lord for blessings and for increase

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in our life. That grace is simply, you know,

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the blessings of God and the goodness of the

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Lord. And yes, those are manifestations of grace.

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But God's grace is manifold. There are various

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expressions of grace. And one of the most important

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ones that we must learn and we must contend with

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in our own lives is the doctrine of grace that

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sustains us when our problems won't leave us.

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The doctrine of grace that holds us and is more

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than enough for us. It's grace. Even when you've

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got that problem in your life, that situation,

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it's grace that'll still let you get a good night's

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sleep. Oh, I'll come to preach to somebody right

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now. It's grace that'll still let you keep walking.

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It's grace that even when your world is falling

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apart in that one area, you still can wear a

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smile on your face. And it's not fabricated.

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It's not phony. It's not fake. It's the grace

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of God. That says I might have this problem.

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But God has still been good to me. I wonder if

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somebody can give the Lord some praise here today.

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We learn grace. But you're not going to learn

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grace. Now you can learn theologically. You can

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learn the doctrine of grace. Through study of

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the New Testament. But you're only going to learn.

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what true grace that is sufficient is to what

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I've called thorn theology. And he said, not

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only will I give you a revelation of grace, but

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of strength. Somebody say strength. He said,

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my strength is made perfect in weakness. Think

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about that for a moment. Think about what the

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Lord is telling us about how strength in the

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kingdom of God works. God's strength is not activated

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fully until his strength has a place in your

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life to set up its power. And the only way God's

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strength can have its effect in our life is when

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something gives. In other words, He can't be

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strong in areas that you refuse to let go of.

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He can't be strong in areas where God's not going

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to get in a. in a match with you. Something has

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got to give. And this is illustrated very profoundly,

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and this might be next Sunday's message now,

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when Jacob wrestled with God. God said, if you

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really want to see my blessing, then something's

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got to break. And he touched his hip. See. Can

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I tell you what the issue is as I get ready to

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close? The issue is we want God to give us more

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strength, but we don't want any weakness. We

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don't want to be weak in an area. We don't want

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to struggle. We don't want to have a need. We

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don't want to be broken in any way. And God is

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saying, if you really want my strength to be

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revealed, if you want me to see how awesome and

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how powerful and how mighty I am, then I will

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allow some things to happen in your life so that

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you will know that I am God and that I am the

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one that is holding you. I'm the one putting

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food on your table, not your employer. Come on

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now, somebody. Are you hearing me today? I'm

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the one that's putting food on your table, not

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your employer. But you would never know that

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unless God had put you in a situation where all

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you could do was depend on him. You'll never

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know him as a friend. That sticks closer than

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a brother until you've been betrayed by people

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who you thought were your friends and you thought

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you could trust and you thought would be there

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for you. Then you realize that, ha, he is the

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God that will never leave me nor forsake me.

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Would you stand with me this afternoon? Somebody

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say amen. I want to grow in grace. I want to

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grow in the strength of God, but I must do so

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with an understanding that God is going to use

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my weaknesses. Can I tell you that sometimes

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the thing that we're praying for God to remove,

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that if he removes, you know, there are some

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things that if God answered your prayer, you

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wouldn't be back next Sunday. I'm going to say

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it again. Amen? There are some prayers that if

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God actually prayed, you wouldn't be back to

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church next time. He said, whoo, not me. There

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are some things that if God did, you wouldn't

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serve him the way you would had he left that

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thorn there. He said, but why? Why would God

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do that to me? It seems like a little messed

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up, huh? Like, God, why would you hold out on

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me like that? Someone say, why, God? Because

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God knows you better than you know yourself.

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He made you. He wired your brain. He understands

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what makes you tick. He understands the buttons

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that need to be put. God knows you better than

00:31:13.809 --> 00:31:19.529
you know you. And in his supreme, listen, in

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God's knowledge, His all knowledge about your

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life. There are certain things that God knows

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that if he does things always the way that we

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want. He knows why it's there. And if he always

00:31:45.150 --> 00:31:50.220
did what we always wanted him to do. He knows

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that probably that would be the thing that takes

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us away. Some of us wouldn't pray the way we

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pray without a thorn. Hello, somebody. Oh, my

00:32:05.539 --> 00:32:09.420
God. In fact, you learn how to pray. You see,

00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:11.400
you don't even really learn how to pray until

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you have a thorn in your life. You know what

00:32:17.180 --> 00:32:18.519
I mean? You know what I mean, Brother David?

00:32:18.990 --> 00:32:20.609
Like, read all the books on prayer you want.

00:32:20.910 --> 00:32:22.609
There's some good ones out there. Maybe I should

00:32:22.609 --> 00:32:24.130
write one, too. I don't know. There's some good

00:32:24.130 --> 00:32:28.009
ones out there. There was a whole series of praying

00:32:28.009 --> 00:32:30.009
books a few years ago. The Power of a Praying

00:32:30.009 --> 00:32:31.549
Husband. The Power of a Praying Wife. The Power

00:32:31.549 --> 00:32:35.690
of a Praying... And that's wonderful. But none

00:32:35.690 --> 00:32:38.009
of those books will teach you how to pray like

00:32:38.009 --> 00:32:42.750
a thorn will. Can I tell you where I really learned

00:32:42.750 --> 00:32:45.009
how to get a hold of God? When I had a need in

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my life. Jesus. And all I could do was cry out

00:32:49.740 --> 00:32:56.299
to God. A thorn in your life will make you forget

00:32:56.299 --> 00:32:58.640
about what time it is and how long you've been

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there because you're so desperate for the presence

00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:10.240
of God. You really learn how to praise God. Can

00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:12.740
I tell you what I really teach you how to worship?

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Not the latest song on CCM or... Erwan and Caleb

00:33:18.440 --> 00:33:21.779
and all that. The latest song is not going to

00:33:21.779 --> 00:33:24.140
teach you how to worship and how to praise God.

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You know what's going to teach you? A thorn.

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Because until you have learned how to lift up

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your hands and open up your mouth and say, I

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will bless the Lord at all times. Come on now,

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somebody. And his praise shall continually. That

00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:47.039
you haven't learned how to worship yet. But when

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that thorn is there. And yes I've got a problem.

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But I've come to bless his holy name. Anyhow.

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Come on. Is there somebody with the worship in

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your heart today? Is there somebody that can

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lift your voice in worship today? Lift your voice

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in praise today? I'm not telling you to like

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the thorn. I'm not telling you that we are to

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pretend that these thorns are comfortable. No.

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What I've come to, through the Holy Ghost today,

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is to tell you about thorn theology. The greatest

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lessons that you will learn about God are those

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uncomfortable places in your life that God has

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yet to answer and maybe never will. But here's

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the point, is that if you could serve him that

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way, then you can boast like Paul did. I don't

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know. I have read this so many times. I have

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read this and I have thought to myself. I don't

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think I'm there yet. I'm just not there. I'll

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be honest with you, church. I'm not ready to

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say I take pleasure in affirmities. Can I be

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real with you? How many of you are going to be

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real right now? I'm not at that level yet. Maybe

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some of you are. God bless you. Share with me

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your secrets. But I'm not ready to say, like

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Paul, I take pleasure in affirmations. I'm struggling

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with saying in reproaches. I don't know if I

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can say I take pleasure in needs. And certainly

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not persecutions. everybody to how about you

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you want everybody to like you i want everybody

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to like me i'm not ready to take uh you know,

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take pleasure in distresses. I'm not ready to

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do that. But here's what, but if I can just today,

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here's all you've got to do today. All you've

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got to do is, I'm not saying that when you leave

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this place, you're going to start thanking God

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for all the problems you have in your life. I'm

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just boasting of my infirmities today. I'm not

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telling you to do that. But all you've got to

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do today is accept that if God allowed it, then

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obviously God sees a need. If God is allowing

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that thorn, then there is There's something that

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God is trying to work in your life. And if you

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can just praise God for that. Say, God, I don't

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understand it all yet. I'm not at that level

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yet, God. I don't know if I'm there yet. But

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here's what I know. That when I am weak, then

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I am strong. When I can lay it down at your feet.

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When I can surrender. When I can submit. commit

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when i can god put myself in your hands god then

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i know everything's gonna be all right i wonder

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right there where you are if we can just go before

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god in prayer there's somebody here today that

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just needs to touch the throne of god oh it could

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be that god will answer but it may not be the

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answer that you want but in the end god will

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give you the grace come on there's a grace that's

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here right now there's a grace that god is working

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in your life oh Oh, hallelujah. I wonder if you

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can praise him even with that thorn. I wonder

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if you can pray even with that thorn. I wonder

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if you can touch God. I wonder, oh, hallelujah.

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Oh, the grace of God is here. The joy of the

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Lord is my strength. Come on, anybody got joy?

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I'm not talking about fleeting happiness. That's

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up one day and down the next. I'm talking about

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the joy of the Lord. The joy of the Lord. Is

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my strength. Is he your strength today? Come

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on, is he your strength today? How many of you

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want that joy? The Bible says that in his presence

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there is fullness of joy. And that is right hand

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pleasures forevermore. So right now for the next

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60 seconds, I'm asking for somebody to step into

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the presence of God. Somebody to let your heart

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go. and get into His presence where the joy of

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the Lord is, where the grace of God is, where

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the strength of God will be found. Come on, somebody

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open up your heart today. Somebody open up your

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worship. Open up your mouth today. Let the Spirit

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of God let it dwell. Come on, hallelujah.
