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What's going on, Pursuers? Welcome to The Pursuit

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of Calling, the podcast that provides you with

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the strategies and tools needed to successfully

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discover and pursue your calling. Whether it's

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through inspiring stories, thought -provoking

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interviews, or quick, insightful episodes on

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personal growth and development, we've got you

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covered. I'm your host, Thomas Carney. Enjoy

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the episode. How's it going, Pursuers? So, I

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quit my job. You might already know that if you've

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been listening to this podcast for a second,

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because it's kind of been the theme of the last

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few weeks, but I quit my job as a full -time

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mobile app developer, and, you know, websites

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too, in order to pursue what I believe God is

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calling me to do in being a full -time entrepreneur,

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specifically a coaching business, life coaching

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business. However, there's one thing Big thing

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that's been on my mind recently, and I think

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this is something that I know this is something

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that a lot of people deal with. I've, and you

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might already guess it from the title of the

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episode, I have a problem with procrastination.

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It is not necessarily that I'm doing things that

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are bad, right? It's not necessarily that I'm

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doing things that are lazy. It's that I'm not

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prioritizing. my needs over my wants. I'm doing

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things that could be considered necessarily productive.

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I'm getting things done, but they're not necessarily

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the quote -unquote right things that need done.

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If you're building something meaningful, especially

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while managing chronic health or a high responsibility

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in your life, you're going to feel this tension.

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Doing things you want, over the things that need

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to get done. You don't always prioritize all

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that well, right? I'm doing, I like to do what's

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comfortable, right? Most of us do. The ones aren't

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bad things, but they aren't always the best thing

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that you could be working on right now. Does

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that sound familiar? You know, this came up for

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me in my therapy session yesterday morning. An

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avid habit most people have is, prioritizing

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one's over needs. And, hmm, our society, our

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economy thrives on this. Why wash the dishes

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when I could watch a video on YouTube or Netflix?

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Why work out when I could watch TV and have a

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snack? Why pursue my calling when I could stay

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comfortable with where I'm at? You know, my therapist

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gave me some homework. She said, observe without

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judgment when you have moments of want versus

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need. Looking for a distinct reason for the procrastination.

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We're going to get a little bit more into that

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as we go through the episode, but I want you

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to hold on to that mind. Hold on to that. We're

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going to look for a distinct reason for our procrastination.

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I want to focus on... You know, that simple thing,

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though, that simple topic of procrastination,

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this episode, and how to stop it. You know, procrastination,

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it's not laziness. Like I said earlier, like,

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even for me, like, I like to get things done.

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You like to get things done. You're a productive

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person. Like, you're not lazy. But it's a signal.

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It shows our wants, fears. or discomfort are

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misaligned with our needs. There's a ton of research

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on this topic, like a ton. People want to know

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why they procrastinate. You've most likely heard

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the term delayed gratification or immediate reward.

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Naturally, our brains are trained to go for what

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is most readily available and attainable. So,

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procrastination comes in when the brain wants

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short -term emotional relief more than the reward

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that the long -term goal would give you. Now,

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because you lack willpower or discipline, tasks

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that seem unpleasant, boring, or overwhelming

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are most likely to be avoided. Then the void

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is filled with something easier that brings us

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comfort. Is that making sense? Listen to that

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part again. You don't lack willpower. You don't

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lack discipline. Simply, the tasks that seem

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unpleasant, boring, or overwhelming are most

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likely to be avoided. Then the void is filled

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with something easier to bring us comfort. A

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key idea in the research is temporal discounting.

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That's a term you might not have heard before.

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I didn't hear it before I started doing research

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on the topic for this episode. Our brains value

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immediate comfort. This is talking about the

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poor discounting. Our brains value immediate

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comfort more than the delayed benefits. So this

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is what we were talking about before. Even when

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the latter are more meaningful. So. Really, what

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procrastination is doing is not necessarily pushing

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things off. It's seeing how quickly we can get

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a reward. Does that make sense? I think that's

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the mindset shift around procrastination. It's

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not laziness. It's not pushing something off.

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It's getting reward faster. It's seeing how quick

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can I get a reward. So what does the science

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say? There is a... A couple other terms that,

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again, I didn't hear before. Maybe you did. One

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called task aversion. The more unpleasant or

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unappealing a task feels, even if it's important,

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the more likely we are to avoid it. There's another

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term called emotion regulation. We practice to

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manage our feelings, to escape discomfort, anxiety,

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or the fear tied to a task. Okay, so we're trying

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to escape discomfort, anxiety. or the fear that

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is tied to the task. So what is this fear typically

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that's tied to the task? I want to kind of hone

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in on this fear, this anxiety. I think it's a

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lot of the time what I find whenever I'm coaching,

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whenever I'm coaching, my clients typically get

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stressed out because they believe that the goal

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is too big to achieve, or they don't know what

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the next step is, and that stresses them out.

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You ever been there where you're like, I have

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this big thing. I have this thing that I think

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it kind of feels like a pipe dream. And maybe

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one day I'll do it. Maybe I'll get it done one

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day. But the thing is, unless you sit down and

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actually figure out how to break that goal down.

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And again, we're going to get into this a little

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bit more. Break that goal down into bite sized

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pieces. So the task isn't as big. There's not.

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fear around the task is you're going to keep

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procrastinating it and keep pushing it off. So

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how do we overcome it? Now, my therapist gave

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me another question to ask myself in the, in

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the moment of making a decision to do one thing

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over another. So whenever I'm making a decision

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to maybe read my book that I love reading, I

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read it for fun over recording a podcast episode,

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for instance. The question is, is this really

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what I should be doing right now? Is this really

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what I should be doing right now? It doesn't

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mean that it's not what you should be doing.

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It doesn't mean that it's a bad thing, but it's

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a genuine question. Is this what I really should

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be doing right now? Hmm. This is asking whether

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the emotional reward circuitry is driving the

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moment's choice. So noticing that pattern is

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exactly what psychologists recommend for breaking

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this procrastination cycle. It's noticing, like,

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why do I want to sit down and read my book right

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now? For me, this is real. I love to read. Maybe

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you're not a reader. Maybe you're an audiobooker.

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I'm both. I do both at the same time. That's

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just me. I think it adds a dimension to the story.

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Give me a break. The emotional reward circuitry

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is like, do I want to sit down and read my book

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right now? Or do I want to eat this chocolate

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cookie right now? Or do I want to watch my TV

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show right now? Because I just want to stay comfortable?

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Am I afraid of the thing that I should be doing?

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Is it? Something, is it uncomfortable to do the

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thing that I know I need to be doing? And sometimes

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that just has to happen. And I think whenever

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we ask ourselves these questions, that is how

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you break the cycle. That's how you stop, quote

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unquote, pushing things off. You stop living

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on default. I love that term. I love the phrase.

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Stop living on default. And I don't think anybody

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else has says that. So I kind of want, maybe

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I'll make a shirt for that because I don't know.

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I feel like it's my life. I want to stop. That's

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why I'm leaving my job. I want to stop living

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on default. Anyway, let's keep going. So let's

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get into some practical steps and how to overcome

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procrastination. I forgot the word for a second.

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So it's not about trying harder. It's about reducing

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emotional resistance. So make the need smaller.

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I mentioned that before. If the task feels overwhelming,

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let's shrink it. The task isn't build the business.

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If you're like me, you're building your own business.

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It's, hey, open the laptop. Open the laptop.

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Network with five people. What are the steps

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you can do in order to make the business a success?

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Not. Just build a business and make it this ambiguous

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big goal. Shrink it. Chop it up. Chop up. This

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is an analogy I just meal prep today. Chop up

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the pepper. Instead of just throwing the whole

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pepper into the pot, chop up the pepper into

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bite -sized pieces so that each step, each new

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piece of the puzzle can be taken one step at

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a time. The goal isn't write the book. It's write

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one paragraph. It's not get healthy. It's go

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to the gym one time. Walk in the door. Small

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actions lowers emotional friction. Okay, now

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let's clarify the next step. Procrastination

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thrives in vagueness. Instead of... Work on the

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podcast. This is something on my brain. Instead

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of work on the podcast, maybe define outline

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three teaching points. Record an intro. For me,

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clarity reduces avoidance. The third thing in

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this is attach meaning to the need. And I think

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a lot of the times we have a need, like one thing

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I really didn't want to do this week was sign

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up for health insurance. It's really boring.

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And they asked me all these crazy questions.

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I say, what sex were you assigned at birth? And

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I was like, oh, silly question. I think I'm pretty

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sure I'm a dude. I'm positive, but silly questions

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like that. And I'm like. Like. But then I'm like,

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if you sign the meaning to it, I'm like, what

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future does this help build? Well, for me, it

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helps make sure that I'm going to be able to

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go to the doctor so I can still get my medications.

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And like, there's a positive outcome, positive

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reward to this super boring task. Or who does

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this serve? Why am I doing this right now? Who

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does it serve for me to? Write this book. Who

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does it serve for me to make this video? Who

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does it serve for me to make sure I'm healthy?

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Who else does it serve besides myself for me

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to go to the gym? Maybe you're a dad and you

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want to be healthy for your family. It's not

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just for you. It's for the people that you serve,

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and that's your family. When meaning increases,

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motivation strengthens. And finally, we're going

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to allow strategic wants. Instead of eliminating

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comfort, we're going to earn it. We're going

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to schedule it or we're going to use it as recovery.

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So earn it. It's like, okay, after working for

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two hours, I'm going to get one cookie. And that's

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my reward. Or after reaching this milestone for

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the day, after doing a session of deep work for

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the day, I'm going to read my book for an hour.

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That's a reward for me because, oh my gosh, Brandon

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Sanderson is an artist. Look his books up. Anyway,

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I mentioned, I'm going to skip a couple of things

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because it's going a little bit longer than I

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meant it to. The goal isn't zero once. It's just

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having your once be in the right place. It's

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being strategic with them. Okay, I'm going to...

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I mean, I have so many notes here and I need

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to skip some because this episode is getting

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long. Hmm. I'm going to skip to the faith and

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calling connection. How did this talk of procrastination

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align with our faith as Christians and the calling

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that is on your life? Here's a question that

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you can ask yourself. Am I choosing comfort over

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calling? Or maybe a question, am I stewarding

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what God has entrusted to me? This work we're

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doing, pursuing our callings, it's not just for

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us. I keep saying that. Be faithful with what

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God is entrusting to you. He's entrusting to

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you to live a life. I'm kidding. Okay. He's entrusting

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to you to live your life in a particular way.

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Are you going to live your life in comfort? Are

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you going to live your life in your calling?

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Like, it's okay. Let's get into scripture. Colossians

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3 .23. I love this verse. Whatever you do, work

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heartedly. Work with all that you have as for

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the Lord and not for men, not for human masters.

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I'm going to say it again. Whatever you do, work

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heartily as for the Lord and not for men. Work

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for the Lord and not for, like, you're not working

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for men. You're working to serve the Lord. You

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serve the Lord by serving others. If I'm building

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my business, recording a podcast, writing content,

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it's not just for me. This is worship, guys.

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I'm sorry if you're not a, well, I am sorry if

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you're not a Christian because Jesus is great,

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but man, the pursuit of your calling is worship.

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Man, there's so many changes I could go on right

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now, but I'm going to keep moving. Suddenly that

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need becomes sacred. Okay, there's one more verse

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I want to read, and then we're going to wrap

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it up. Psalm 127, verses 1 to 2. I found this,

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and it's amazing. Unless the Lord builds a house,

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the builder labors in vain. Unless the Lord watches

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over the city, the guard stands watch in vain.

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In vain you rise early and stay up late, toiling

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for food to eat. For the Lord, he grants sleep

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to those he loves. Spurgeon said about these

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two verses, he said, note, the psalmist does

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not bid the builder cease from laboring, nor

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suggest that watchmen should neglect their duty,

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nor that man should show their trust in God by

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doing nothing. Nay, nay, Spurgeon is great, nay,

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he supposes that they would do all that they

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can do. And then he forbids their fixing their

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trust. in what they have done and assures them

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that all creature effort will be in vain unless

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the creator puts forth his power. God's not calling

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you to be lazy. He's calling you to take action

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and give it all that you have. But man, only

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if it's what he's calling you to do. Only for

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what he's saying, this is for you. Man, so whenever

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we're procrastinating from our calling, like,

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ooh, okay, okay. We're kind of telling God the

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calling that he's given us isn't enough. And

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I'm like, bro, ooh, that's way, ooh, I'm getting

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a little uncomfortable. We don't need to rely

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on our abilities alone. God is a provider and

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sustainer. He wants us to rest and rely on him.

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He doesn't want us to reach the edge of burnout.

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He loves us. However, if his hand isn't over

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our pursuits, then they're in vain. So I want

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to challenge you to pray on your efforts or your

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goals aligned with the calling he has placed

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on your life. Man, I didn't actually, I prepared

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a lot, a lot more for this. Okay. I shouldn't,

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I probably shouldn't say this, but I prepared

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a lot more for this episode than I have for a

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lot of other episodes in the past. And man, it

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was so much fun. And it's 20 minutes. I don't

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know if there, I don't know if people are going

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to listen to the whole thing, but man, thank

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you. If you did, I really appreciate it. I want

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to give you one more challenge. If you have,

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if you were to ask yourself is what I'm doing

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right now about to do. Wow. That was terrible.

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English is what I'm about to do really what I

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should be doing. If you were to ask yourself

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that, what do you think would happen? Think about

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that. Start asking yourself that question. I'm

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going to be doing it too. I'm going to be doing

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it right alongside you because I just had this

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therapy session yesterday and it just sparked

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this whole thought process in me. So, guys. Thank

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you for sitting with me and listening to this

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episode of the Pursuit of Calling podcast on

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procrastination. I didn't think I was going to

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have so much fun talking about procrastination.

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It's crazy. If you like this episode, please

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share it out on social media. It's so helpful

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when you do that. And if you find a reel, if

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you see a reel about this episode, repost it.

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Do that repost thing that Instagram now does

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and like it, share it. And guys, don't forget

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to give a five -star review. on Spotify, Apple

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Podcasts, and apparently now you can leave comments

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on Apple Podcasts from what I understand. So

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if you want to go leave a comment on Apple Podcasts

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on Spotify, wherever you're listening to your

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podcast, that would be amazing. Guys, thank you

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again for listening to this episode. Keep pursuing

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your calling. Do well. I'll see you later, pursuers.

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Peace.
