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What's going on, Pursuers? Welcome to The Pursuit

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of Calling, the podcast that provides you with

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the strategies and tools needed to successfully

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discover and pursue your calling. Whether it's

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through inspiring stories, thought -provoking

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interviews, or quick, insightful episodes on

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personal growth and development, we've got you

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covered. I'm your host, Thomas Carney. Enjoy

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the episode. What's going on, Pursuers? Welcome

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to the Pursuit of Calling podcast. And Ryan,

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thank you for joining me. Hey, thank you for

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having me. Yeah, for sure. And guys, I'm excited.

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Ryan is working on becoming a keynote speaker,

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but he's also currently coaching kids how to

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gain confidence and gain college scholarships.

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That's a couple things that came up during our

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pre -interview that we had almost a month ago

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now, it feels like. Yeah, guys, I'm excited for

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this conversation. Ryan, for the pursuers who

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don't know you, because we're going to assume

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most of them don't, who are you? What do you

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want them to know about you? Man, that's a pretty

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loaded question, isn't it? Probably the number

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one thing I'd... What people know is I'm a child

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of God. First and foremost, my identity is in

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God. Everything I am and have is rooted in him.

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Which wasn't always the case, but now I realize

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that that's where my, where everything about

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me comes from. But for everybody else, you know,

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the non -godly folks out there, you know, would

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say I am pretty much a mindset coach. Trying

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to become a motivational speaker. And that's

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pretty much it. No, that's fantastic. No, you

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told me before we started recording, short and

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sweet. That's great. So a part of your story

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that I found really intriguing, and I'm happy

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when during the preview I dove into it further,

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but you mentioned going from jail. being incarcerated

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to running a wrestling academy. And so, like,

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before we talk about you actually getting to

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where you are now, I want to talk about where

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you were. So can you give us a little bit of

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insight into that? Well, I mean, I grew up like

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any normal kid, was very athletic, good in school,

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and somewhere along that path, I lost myself.

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And became addicted to drugs and alcohol. And

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I just kept going down that path. Every time

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I tried to get away from it, I would kind of

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get sucked back in. Because I had my own personal

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hurts and hang -ups, everything. Well, eventually

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I realized that all that was going to happen

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to me was I was going to end up dead. I was going

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to end up in prison. And that's where I could

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get clean and sober. And this happened. I ended

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up in jail for a little time, like 20 some days

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and had some time to kind of reflect and that

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was the life I wanted. And it wasn't. Yeah. And

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sometimes that's what you need, that kick sometimes,

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right? You need that realization. whenever you're

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brought down low and like, um, I'm diving a lot

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into Psalm 23 right now. And, um, whenever in

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that valley, a shadow of death and you're starting

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that, like you're realizing whenever you become

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a child of God, become a child of God, you're

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like, man, I can fear no evil because God is

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with me. Yeah. And that's what I take from like,

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uh, my, that time there was God was giving me

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a time out and bringing me closer to him. Because

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in my time there, I started going to recovery

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meetings. Was going back to doing Bible studies,

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going to like church sessions, which I hadn't

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been to church in like almost 20 years at that

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point. And as soon as I got out, the people that

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were coming in doing recovery meetings, I started

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meeting up with them. So everything was for a

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reason that I was sent there to go to that next

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level and follow that next path. Yeah. And what

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is that next path? What was that? At first, I

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didn't know. First, it was get clean and sober.

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That was my main objective was trying to get

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away from. Drugs and alcohol. Like there was

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no other path but that. That was my main focus

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was that. And then I realized, hey, that my main

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focus need to be on God, not just the getting

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clean and sober part. Yeah. And then that led

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you from what I remember to a conversation that

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you had with your friend about. what you should

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be doing with your life. Yeah. I mean, that was

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an interesting thing. I mean, so I was doing

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construction at the time and I just felt it in

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my heart that I wasn't supposed to be there anymore.

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I was having trouble getting clearance over.

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I mean, I was struggling. Some days I'd be good.

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Other days bad, but we were working outside middle

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and I'm living in Ohio. So in middle of winter

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working outside. Kind of miserable in the middle

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of, what, December, January. You know, it's kind

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of miserable outside, cold. And I couldn't be

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happy. I mean, I was not happy at all where I

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was in life. And the people I was around, there

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was a lot of negativity. I'm like, I can't do

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it here. I can't do what I need to do in this

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environment. I need to get away. So I took a

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layoff from work and was kind of debating on

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what I wanted to do again. And I was like. you

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know what i'm gonna start my own business let's

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let's maybe start a painting business or something

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that i know i could do i know some other people

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some construction people that could help me get

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me in the foot in the door and i could go do

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this well i went and talked to a friend really

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good friend and we started talking i wanted to

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get some advice on how to get this business up

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and running business plan everything and i used

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to coach his sons in wrestling And he came in.

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I went to him. We just started talking, small

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talk, you know, talk about how his kids were

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doing, how the team was doing. And we just started

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talking about wrestling. And he seen my face

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light up as we were talking about wrestling and

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about helping kids and about having a plan of

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how to get them to be successful, how to change

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things around. He's like, he just looked at me,

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right? He goes, you don't even know, do you?

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I go, no, no way. He goes. This is what you need

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to be doing. Not the other stuff, not running

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a painting business or anything like that. You

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need to go coach wrestling and help these kids.

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He goes, that's what you need to do. He goes,

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you have a plan. Anybody who knows anything can

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kind of see how your face lights up when you

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talk about it. He goes, that's where you need

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to go. So that's what I started pursuing. Well,

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there's a lot of doubt first. First and foremost

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in my head, am I good enough to do that? Look

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where I was just at. I was in jail probably less

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than four months ago. You know, is anybody going

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to let me around their kids? I mean, I'm not,

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wasn't the best role model at the time, you know?

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So I had a lot of doubt, but I ended up finding

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something in my coat pocket. And I pulled out

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this, I kept asking God, God, if this is what

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you want me to do, tell me. Well, one day I reached

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in my coat pocket and pulled out this poem and

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it was like a wrestling poem. And I'm like, I

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didn't know. I thought somebody put it in my

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pocket. That's where I was at at the time, you

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know, because I was recently came back to God,

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you know, not realizing this, how it all works.

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I'm like, who's playing with me, you know? And

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pulled this thing out. I'm like, oh, my God.

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This is what I'm supposed to do. So I went and

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pursued that track. Yeah. And. Previously, you

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talked about on a pre -interview. You talked

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about building confidence in these kids because

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that's where they needed to start because they

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didn't have confidence in themselves to be able

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to achieve the things that you knew that they

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could. Right? Yeah. That's why I start with everybody.

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For sure. It's confidence. For the listeners

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of this podcast, you know, I recently, I've decided

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to... shift my focus and my niche towards young

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Christian men who are dealing with these chronic

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conditions and similar to mine and the same thing

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the same thing happens because you start to believe

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that because of your circumstances that you're

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not capable of doing this that you're not capable

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of doing this achieving big goals, not capable

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of doing things that other people say that you

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are not able to do. So what would you be able

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to say based on your experience with kids that

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are in certain circumstances or even believe

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things about themselves? How does that translate?

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Well, confidence is everything. That Henry Ford

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quote always sticks to me when I start thinking

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about this. It's, those who believe they can,

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can. Or whether you believe you can, Or you believe

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you can't, you're both right. I mean, that goes

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with me every time because I'm like, that is

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so true. And that was part of my problem. I think

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why I kind of strayed towards drugs and alcohol

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was because like those limiting beliefs I had

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about myself. That I wasn't good in certain areas.

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And so when I kind of got clean and sober. This

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was the one thing I had to learn how to do was

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quiet my mind. And I mean, I did everything like

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spiritual warfare, listen to podcasts on, on

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like personal development, start reading a lot

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of books and just started learning how to control

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my mind. And everything came back to when I'm

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trying to get better and become a better person

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came back to the mindset. You got to learn how

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to upgrade your mind. You're trying to upgrade

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everything else about your body and everything

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else, but your mind still is horrible. You got

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to learn how to upgrade that. So, I mean, I deep

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dove into a lot of that on how to start controlling

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that. And I was kind of led to start working

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with kids and wrestling with mindset. And when

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I did this program, I signed up to do this program

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on mindset coaching. I'm like, we started talking

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about, they gave me the worksheets and everything

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that we were doing. And I looked, I'm like, man,

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this is a lot of the stuff that I did for myself,

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you know, to upgrade my own mind. I'm like, I

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bet this stuff works. I kind of started working

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with a kid here and it didn't really take with

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him because some of the work and then he didn't,

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but I kind of learned a little bit, you know,

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I kind of rushed the process with him. His process

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needs to go slower. So I need to go slower with

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a lot of people. You know, you can't rush the

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process of them upgrading their mind. It's an

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everyday occurrence and you just, the process

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of the process, you know, you can't rush it.

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So I took on another kid and wow, it took off.

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Like this kid went from like mid -level, which

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he always had the talent, but his mindset wasn't

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very the best. But he went from mid -level to

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top -notch, like very, very good. And people

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started noticing it, you know, within a year.

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They'd seen like the transformation this kid

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had within a year of working with me. And then

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the next year, I mean, was even better. So eventually

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I started picking up clients all through word

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of mouth. Yeah. So realistically, what I say

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is I build confidence in them. I get these kids

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to believe that what they want and desire in

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their heart is not impossible. I kind of give

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them permission to go get it and build them out

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plans. But first, like I said, I start everybody

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out in confidence because I know how hard it

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is to go try to achieve something bigger than

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yourself that you don't think you can do. Like

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there's going to be a lot of struggles, lots

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of ups, lots of downs. So getting them to learn

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how to calm that mind and start eliminating those,

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those voices in their head, those limiting beliefs

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they have about themselves. I mean, that is the

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main thing. Like it start, why I start out with

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confidence is I get to help. I get to start recognizing

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their patterns of their thoughts they have. And

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then I also get to, you know, Kind of get them

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to start rewiring it by what they're telling

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themselves and how they talk to themselves. So

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in particular, what is the practical way that

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you do that? How do you rewire somebody's brain?

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A lot with daily affirmations. I'd say the two

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biggest things in confidence that I do is daily

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affirmations and visualization. The Daily Affirmations,

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I mean, it's not where we're just sitting in

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a mirror saying, I am this, I am that. No, they're

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more like what Tony Robbins would call incantations

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because you're creating movement with it, like

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body movement, and you're actually speaking it

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from the heart. And there's feeling and emotion

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in it, not just, I am this, I can do this, you

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know. Just that it's creating movement where

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you're actually believing that. Then you add,

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you add the visualization to it later on and

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you're starting manifesting things and starting

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to actually see yourself doing this stuff. And

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it's like, man, I can do this. And then you start,

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eventually when you build the daily. action plans

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and the habits to go with it, you know, putting

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the work into it, everything starts, you know,

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you start gaining a lot of momentum where you

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start believing you can do it. What's an example

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you can give us? Like, I would love for the listeners

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who have, who are still listening to the episode,

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who were like, who were like, okay, I want to

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hear more of what Ryan has to say. What, like,

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let's, let's do something. Let's actually give,

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let's give them something practical to do. So

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first off, I can give you like two quick steps.

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Okay. So first step, I would say, if you're lacking

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confidence, what I would do, write down 10 things

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that you've accomplished in life. 10 things that

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you've accomplished. It can be work -related,

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school -related, family -related, spiritual -related,

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anything. 10 things that you've done and accomplished

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that you're like, man, I didn't think I could

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do this, but I did. That's where confidence lies

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is the things looking at your past successes,

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because we've all done things that other people

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couldn't do. You know, everybody's done something

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that not everybody could do. And you've been

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successful. You're just not looking at it hard

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enough. And then just start looking at some of

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your skills. I'd put down like, Hey, 10 skills

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that I'm good at 10 things. I'm like. They'd

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be subjects in school. Like, Hey, I'm good at

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this video game. Things like that. I mean, you

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all have skills that you're better at than the

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other people. So when you start looking at all

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the positive things, that's where I would start.

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And then what I would do, I would create an anchor

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or gesture, which could be, it's just a physical,

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it's a, just like a physical gesture. It'd be

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a stop of the finger, a clap, smack on the head,

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pat on your chest. anything little leg slap anything

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little like that and you just go down that list

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one by one and pair that with that gesture do

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that for a couple weeks every day maybe once

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or twice a day for a couple weeks and that just

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starts reprogramming your mind to show you hey

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you actually have been successful and you've

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actually been good yeah that's something that's

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where you start because hey i can walk you through

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the other stuff but Getting you to actually see

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that you've actually done something that other

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people couldn't do and you're not what you think

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you are. It just helps rewire that brain a little

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bit. Then I would go straight to like building

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affirmations, incantation, whatever you want

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to call them. And those are just I am statements.

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And those could be, I'd say create five of them,

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five or more. Let's be like, I'm unstoppable.

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You know, I can do this. I'm the best. Like kind

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of pair, make it with what you want to do. So

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like with the athletes I work with, I'm unstoppable.

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I am the strongest, you know, things like that,

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you know, they create them statements and then

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kind of pair them up. So with the affirmations

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and everything, we'd say them five times a day.

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And then after each physical, after each time

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they say the I am statement, they do their gesture.

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And we do that once I serve them out five times

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a day. Cause it takes like 15 seconds. It takes

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like 15 seconds. You can't remember them. Take

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a picture on your phone of them and go through

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the day like that. Yeah. And it's just crazy.

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Yeah. And I think it's crazy. Cause like what

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you're saying is. I don't know if you heard this

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before, maybe the listeners have. Whenever I

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was in school, I would hear people say, whenever

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you're studying for a test, chew a stick of gum.

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And it's like, maybe it's flavorful, maybe it

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has mint in it. And only chew that when you're

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studying for that test. And then whenever you

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go to take the test, chew that same gum. Because

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what that's going to do is going to trigger your

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brain to take that trigger and pull that information

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out into the surface. And that's what you're

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doing with the, what would you call it, the gestures.

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You're like, okay, I'm going to... Imagine an

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IM statement or something I'm good at with a

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snap or a slap on the leg because it pulls it

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to the front. I think when you leave it on the

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surface sometimes and you're not in this world

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as much as we are, you see that on the surface

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and you're like, man, that can't work. That sounds

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too easy. Because I was definitely a person like

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that. I would hear that and I'm like, yeah, that's

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wishy -washy. That makes no sense. That's pipe

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dream stuff. But I've done it. I think I told

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you in our pre -interview, I did a, for a month,

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I did what Tony Robbins calls priming, where

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you visualize the future that you want, you visualize

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the goals that you're aiming to achieve as if

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you've already achieved them, and then you're

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going back through the whole process of who you

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became in order to achieve that goal. And that...

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month i was on fire i was i was on fire i started

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my start it would be at the start of my day every

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morning for like a month and i like everything

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i did started becoming for that going towards

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that goal i wrote down um a a while ago i wrote

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down i don't know if you've read think and grow

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rich but that's a great book yeah and i he has

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he's all about visualization He's like, write

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down in as much detail how much money you want

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to make, how you're going to make that money,

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what you're going to do. And I did that. I wrote

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it all down. Napoleon Hill, people don't know

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who I'm talking about. And I did that. I wrote

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it all down and then forgot about it. I read

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it every day, like you said in the book, read

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it every day for however long I did it. I read

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it to a point where I memorized it. then one

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day i picked it up i found it i found my paper

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i kept it in a folder it's off to my left over

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there and i read it i was like oh it's gonna

00:22:09.779 --> 00:22:12.259
be coaching and merch store and all this stuff

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and i was like at the time i was like i'm literally

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doing everything that i wrote down i forgot i

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even wrote it yeah i programmed my brain and

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that's what it is guys visualization gives your

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you're giving your subconscious mind that belief

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so it gives your conscious mind permission to

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go get it it programs your subconscious which

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programs your conscious mind to go attract those

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things because everything needs to be done on

00:22:45.369 --> 00:22:47.910
the subconscious level like us as human beings

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are probably only operating at probably maybe

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like what they said maybe 10 15 percent of our

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mental capability like with visualization and

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all that stuff, all the things we don't utilize,

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like with our brain capacity. I mean, it's crazy

00:23:02.920 --> 00:23:04.779
when you kind of look at everything. I mean,

00:23:04.799 --> 00:23:08.759
we've been bombarded with so many messages throughout

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with no quiet time or anything that we're just

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being bombarded with all those messages from

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social media and everything, all television ads

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and everything else. We don't know what's going

00:23:19.160 --> 00:23:24.730
on half the time. So that's why that quiet time

00:23:24.730 --> 00:23:28.190
away from yourself and the visualization definitely

00:23:28.190 --> 00:23:30.970
works. I love visualization. You've talked about

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how it works for you. Yeah. It's fantastic. And

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now we're talking about, man, I don't do it enough.

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But that's also why whenever we were talking,

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come and tell us a story. and the person and

00:23:50.329 --> 00:23:52.029
the people are listening are starting to form

00:23:52.029 --> 00:23:54.410
a story of their version of it in their heads

00:23:54.410 --> 00:23:58.049
and they're like if you're talking about driving

00:23:58.049 --> 00:23:59.869
your car they're thinking about driving in their

00:23:59.869 --> 00:24:04.690
car and like the so like why can't we do that

00:24:04.690 --> 00:24:06.630
for ourselves why can't i be like okay i'm gonna

00:24:06.630 --> 00:24:08.450
i'm gonna intentionally do that instead of letting

00:24:08.450 --> 00:24:11.230
my subconscious um i'm gonna start programming

00:24:11.230 --> 00:24:12.829
our subconscious can whenever we start programming

00:24:12.829 --> 00:24:17.480
that that part of our minds then eventually we

00:24:17.480 --> 00:24:18.900
don't even have to think about it. Eventually

00:24:18.900 --> 00:24:22.539
our subconscious works independently of us, which

00:24:22.539 --> 00:24:25.220
is awesome. But we have to intentionally take

00:24:25.220 --> 00:24:28.180
a hold of it instead of letting the world dictate

00:24:28.180 --> 00:24:33.240
what it's going to think. That's why fight or

00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:35.500
flight is a thing. That's why we start to get

00:24:35.500 --> 00:24:37.099
programmed by different things and different

00:24:37.099 --> 00:24:40.299
triggers. But whenever we start intentionally

00:24:40.299 --> 00:24:42.700
acknowledging what those triggers are and then

00:24:42.700 --> 00:24:44.319
making our own triggers like you were saying,

00:24:45.189 --> 00:24:49.009
Then we can start to actually pull things out

00:24:49.009 --> 00:24:52.109
of our subconscious into our consciousness and

00:24:52.109 --> 00:24:54.710
actively utilize it in our day -to -day lives.

00:24:56.109 --> 00:24:59.529
So guys, for the listeners of this podcast, for

00:24:59.529 --> 00:25:02.410
the pursuers that are listening, I actually want

00:25:02.410 --> 00:25:04.049
you to do that. Think about how you're starting

00:25:04.049 --> 00:25:06.869
your day every day. How are you starting it?

00:25:06.970 --> 00:25:10.369
Are you in the word? Are you starting it with

00:25:10.369 --> 00:25:13.440
the word? Are you visualizing? Have you ever

00:25:13.440 --> 00:25:17.359
done visualization before? If you haven't, either

00:25:17.359 --> 00:25:19.380
try it after this episode or try it in the morning

00:25:19.380 --> 00:25:22.519
and actually visualize a goal that you want to

00:25:22.519 --> 00:25:24.660
achieve. I know now that I'm saying a goal that

00:25:24.660 --> 00:25:25.680
you want to achieve, you're thinking about the

00:25:25.680 --> 00:25:28.099
goals that you want to achieve. I already know

00:25:28.099 --> 00:25:29.119
that you're doing that. I don't even have to

00:25:29.119 --> 00:25:35.759
know who you are. And so start doing that visualization.

00:25:35.779 --> 00:25:39.180
We talked about how good it is. So he gave you

00:25:39.180 --> 00:25:42.349
those practical steps. He gave you like... He

00:25:42.349 --> 00:25:44.710
said five IEM statements, doing the visualization,

00:25:45.049 --> 00:25:46.650
write down ten things that you've accomplished

00:25:46.650 --> 00:25:49.289
in your life, and ten things that you're good

00:25:49.289 --> 00:25:53.609
at. Like, just doing one of those is enough.

00:25:54.190 --> 00:25:57.069
Just doing one of those is a great start. I almost

00:25:57.069 --> 00:25:58.150
said it was enough, and that wasn't going to

00:25:58.150 --> 00:26:06.430
be true. But, Ryan, before we wrap up, do you

00:26:06.430 --> 00:26:09.910
have anything else that you want to... Leave

00:26:09.910 --> 00:26:11.829
it to the listeners before we go to our final

00:26:11.829 --> 00:26:14.490
questions. Yeah, I would just tell them if you

00:26:14.490 --> 00:26:19.410
do visualization, use all your senses. Use all

00:26:19.410 --> 00:26:22.190
your senses, too, with that. Because it makes

00:26:22.190 --> 00:26:24.789
it more personable. Makes it more emotional.

00:26:24.950 --> 00:26:29.250
When you can, like, even smell, like, where you're

00:26:29.250 --> 00:26:33.430
at. Like, hear it and feel, like, actually feel

00:26:33.430 --> 00:26:37.079
it. It creates more of that. that definitive,

00:26:37.460 --> 00:26:39.599
hey, this is going to happen. It makes it more

00:26:39.599 --> 00:26:44.279
real. Yeah. So that would be the one you're doing

00:26:44.279 --> 00:26:48.619
when you're doing that visualization. Yeah. Yeah,

00:26:48.660 --> 00:26:56.099
just add your senses to it. Right. Alright, so

00:26:56.099 --> 00:27:00.880
going to the end, I always ask people the same

00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:02.759
two questions. I'll start with the first one

00:27:02.759 --> 00:27:05.400
and we'll move to the second one. So what is

00:27:05.400 --> 00:27:09.500
the top resource, the top tool that you recommend

00:27:09.500 --> 00:27:14.880
to people? So like this talk about book. Yep.

00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:19.400
Okay. So probably one of my favorite books, and

00:27:19.400 --> 00:27:22.559
it's a quick read. I can't remember who wrote

00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:24.460
it, though. It's called Chop Wood, Carry Water.

00:27:25.619 --> 00:27:29.579
It's probably only 110 pages long, but it talks

00:27:29.579 --> 00:27:33.670
about the process. It is a very good book and

00:27:33.670 --> 00:27:36.490
everything it talks about. It showed me so much

00:27:36.490 --> 00:27:38.990
that, Hey, it's always about the process about

00:27:38.990 --> 00:27:41.369
who you become in the process and not about,

00:27:41.369 --> 00:27:45.309
about reaching your destination. The process

00:27:45.309 --> 00:27:47.509
is going to be hard. You just got to go through

00:27:47.509 --> 00:27:54.230
it. Fall in love with the process. That's one

00:27:54.230 --> 00:27:57.809
of my favorite books of all time. Cause you know,

00:27:57.809 --> 00:28:03.980
no matter what it's. That's my favorite book.

00:28:04.220 --> 00:28:07.799
Awesome. Yeah. Thank you. That's going to be

00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:09.420
linked in the show notes. I'd probably give the

00:28:09.420 --> 00:28:11.700
Amazon link unless you have a better one out

00:28:11.700 --> 00:28:15.859
there. And then who do you know that I should

00:28:15.859 --> 00:28:18.259
know, Ryan? Who would be a great, who would be

00:28:18.259 --> 00:28:20.759
a good part of my net addition to my network?

00:28:20.900 --> 00:28:23.559
Who would be great to have as a podcast guest

00:28:23.559 --> 00:28:26.359
for the pursuers of the Pursuit of Calling podcast

00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:31.160
to listen to? So one guest that is a very good

00:28:31.160 --> 00:28:33.769
personal friend of mine. named Rory Paquette,

00:28:33.890 --> 00:28:37.890
who is actually my podcast coach. And I actually

00:28:37.890 --> 00:28:40.750
did a podcast. My first podcast I ever went on

00:28:40.750 --> 00:28:43.369
was his. And then he ended up becoming my podcast

00:28:43.369 --> 00:28:47.309
coach and kind of helped me start a podcast for

00:28:47.309 --> 00:28:55.150
myself. He would probably be the best person

00:28:55.150 --> 00:29:02.059
for you to know. Awesome. All right. Well, I'm

00:29:02.059 --> 00:29:05.619
going to talk to you a little bit after the recording.

00:29:05.720 --> 00:29:08.180
We'll get, uh, talk a little bit more about,

00:29:08.180 --> 00:29:13.880
um, your podcast coach and we will, uh, but guys,

00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:16.740
thank you for listening to the pursuit of calling

00:29:16.740 --> 00:29:19.240
podcast. If you liked this episode, go ahead

00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:21.160
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00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:23.400
review on Spotify and Apple podcasts, wherever

00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:25.579
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00:29:25.579 --> 00:29:27.019
do. Make sure you do that. Cause it really does

00:29:27.019 --> 00:29:29.789
help out the algorithm. And if you really liked

00:29:29.789 --> 00:29:32.250
it, share it directly with your friends and not

00:29:32.250 --> 00:29:35.529
on social media because, again, that helps us

00:29:35.529 --> 00:29:39.730
spread the message, help people know that they

00:29:39.730 --> 00:29:41.390
were made for more, that they have a calling

00:29:41.390 --> 00:29:43.930
on their lives despite their circumstances. Whether

00:29:43.930 --> 00:29:47.309
you're in chronic pain or you're dealing with

00:29:47.309 --> 00:29:49.390
some other chronic illness, you were made for

00:29:49.390 --> 00:29:51.269
more and you have a higher calling on your life.

00:29:51.650 --> 00:29:54.730
So, Ryan, thank you for joining me. And, guys,

00:29:54.869 --> 00:29:56.970
we'll see you next time. Hey, thanks for having

00:29:56.970 --> 00:30:02.180
me. Thank you.
