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the episode. All right. Welcome to this episode
of the Pursuit of Calling podcast. And today
we have a guest, another guest from Maxwell Leadership.
That's where the majority of my guests have been
coming from recently, as you know. And today
we have Luis. And from our previous pre -interview
conversation, I learned that he has been an online
entrepreneur for the last 11 years. I learned
that this is his first ever recording in english
so effort every podcast in english so uh this
is pretty a pretty great honor so to be able
to provide him with that opportunity for him
for his yes to be on the procedure of calling
podcast so yeah louise thank you for being on
Thank you so much. And thanks for the opportunity.
I mean, I have podcasts in Spanish. I've been
working in Spanish for all my life. And now being
able to speak to your audience and being on English
podcast, it means a lot to me because probably
I'm going to jump in the English market in the
future. So this is a good start. And being in
your show is amazing. Thank you so much for your
time. For sure. For sure. Awesome. So, Luis,
for those who don't know you, who is Luis? Well,
I'm originally from Mexico, like you say, and
I'm now a vice in Canada. I've always been passionate
about helping entrepreneurs and professionals
grow. In 2011, because of insecurity and a lot
of problems in Mexico, I decided to move from
a traditional... business moving to the online
business and i started my digital marketing agency
at that time and over the years i've built businesses
in this digital space helping entrepreneurs and
coaching people building their personal brand.
Most recently, well, I'm focused on empowering
others through leadership training and maximum
leadership as my core. And I'm a family man,
lifelong learner, and someone who really believes
helping people unlock their potential. And that's
why I create a podcast called E90 +, which means
excellence. is when you reach 90 or plus of your
full potential, not being perfect. Some of the
big issues I found is a lot of people, they have
been struggling or they never start a business
or they never start something because they are
afraid of not being perfect. And for me, that's
a big mistake. And that's why I truly believe
more on being excellent more than perfect. And
being excellent is being 90 plus. That's the
idea that they chose behind. So that's a little
about me. Great. Great. Great. I'm glad you told
them about what 90 plus means. Because I agree,
excellence isn't about being perfect. It's about...
uh one way to look at excellence is um exceeding
expectations exactly so like if you're at your
job and your but your boss has a particular expectation
of you and like as far as your role goes excellence
would be exceeding the expectations that your
role would provide and that's how people get
promoted that's how people get um get raises
is by going above and beyond what they're actually
being, uh, asked to do. Yeah. I mean, it's, uh,
it's a philosophy for me. It's like, uh, you
know, every time you, you can grow and grow in
this part of, uh, being excellent and being,
but, uh, How can I say it? I want to break some
barriers of people that they don't really believe
that. And that's my goal. It's like pushing themselves
to go forward. Yeah. Try to exceed their expectations,
try to be the best you can without expecting
to be perfect. Yeah. You know, like... Sometimes
people say, I'm not feeling that I can do it.
Something strange happens when you try it and
you do it something. And even if you don't feel
like you can or you're not capable to do it,
but then when you do it, you say, I can't believe
it. I did it. And it was easy. Sometimes you
can say it was easier than I thought. Yeah, because
you did it. You know, it's just be confident
that everything is going to be there and find
a way. I think it's believing in ourselves is
very hard sometimes. But when you really do it,
I think you can achieve things that you never
thought you could in your life. It's not just
in businesses, you know. It's in life, in all
aspects. Being a parent, the first time my first
boy was born, I was scared. I was like, oh my
God, what am I going to do? Two weeks ago, he's
15 now, we went to a restaurant and I... Curiously,
I was scrolling my phone and I found that picture,
the first one that I took when it was like this
size. When I carried him, I thought that, oh
my God, it's not going to break it. I don't know
what to do, how to hold him. Yeah, I mean, I
have seen people that they don't want to have
kids because they feel afraid. rise kids or I
mean this is something that happens to all of
us in all aspects not just being in businesses
in the jobs as parents or as a husband as a friend
in many ways we sometimes we don't go for more
And it's because we are afraid. And that's my
message. I want to, it doesn't matter, try to
go forward and be brave. Yeah. Yeah, you want
people to even beat their expectations that they
have of themselves. Yeah. Well, I have been helping
some business and doing that and entrepreneurs.
But I'm also now, like I told you, it's more
focused. in helping people. I mean, it's something
that I'm doing for myself and also for my kids.
I want to inspire them and helping them. And
yeah, it's my mission, you know. Imagine being
someone coming from a country when I arrived
in Canada in 2020. I realized that Quebec, Montreal,
in the city where I live, is French speakers.
I just speak English and Spanish, and I didn't
have a word. I mean, I only knew we, bonjour,
things like that in French. But learning a new
language, imagine if I came with a mindset of...
is so hard i'm not gonna make it and i will never
learn and i i can't say that i speak french now
not perfect but i can't communicate with people
in in french and i live in in a country that
is different from my from mine uh it was in 2020
when we were in the middle of the pandemic It
was a hard time. We stayed 14 days in our apartment
without knowing nobody. We have no family, no
friends. Oh, wow. Yeah, it was a challenge. But
it's when you push yourself to go out there and
you believe. And I don't know how we make it,
to be honest, when I speak with my wife. And
we didn't have a car. We just used, imagine being
in a stroller with my kids, going to take my
older son to his school. And the first, it was
an experience once that it was raining, but it
was with the wind. And I put the plastic for
the roll of my kids and then the wind left all
in his face while they were watering from him.
And I was, asking by myself, like, God, what
I'm doing here? And it was a very desperate moment.
It was one or two days in all those five years
I have been here. Like, I asked myself, like,
is this really the thing I should do? And because
you have some moments of weakness or, you know,
that you are doubting if you take the right decision.
And after, well, now I can say that, yeah, it
was good. We are fine. But there are some times
that you feel in darkness and things not going
the way you expected that it was going to be.
But then we happened, we passed all those hard
times, and you turn your head and see what you
have achieved and what you did. say oh my god
we did it a lot and we are so happy to be here
and my kids they are they speak three language
so much better than me because they speak spanish
english and french and they are they speak like
natives wow yeah it's it's amazing because if
you start in a new language when you are a kid
imagine this is being like uh sponge that get
old and and yeah you don't you speak like uh
with accent like myself now but they they speak
like natives and it's amazing and um in a multicultural
country is something that they have been great
experience for them so yeah we if we were negatives
in our mindset and our mindset when we started
probably we never make it And we were positive.
We believe in the process. We haven't all the
answers at that moment. And we have a lot of
doubts. But after five years now, we are in the
way. Like I told you, we're in the way to be
permanent residents probably in a couple of years.
And it was an amazing journey. Yeah. With ups
and downs. It's not my life. It's not like that.
It's not perfect, too. So it's what I started
realizing that try not to be perfect. Try to
be excellent. It's the only thing we can make
if we really believe in our process and ourselves.
But for believing in ourselves, I think we need
to push our lives to a limit and go. forward
and moving and that's what I'm trying to inspire
people to to believe in and going there got it
yeah what you deserve simple like that for sure
yeah there's um hmm sorry I had so many thoughts
on what we were saying and uh when man I can't
remember think of it now um Hmm. Right. Okay.
So, yeah, you mentioned about how before you
moved in, you got to Canada, you didn't see yourself
as Native, right? Yeah, well, my kids speak very
well. Right. And I'm reading a book right now
by Ed Milet, if you've heard of Ed Milet. Yeah.
Actually, I'm a subscriber to his podcast. And
it's called The Power of One More. It's a book
I'm reading right now. And one thing he mentions
in the book is one, not only that consistent,
I think even John Maxwell talks about it, Craig
Rochelle talks about it, is the power of compounding.
and also that compounding happens as you move
forward if you're continuously and consistently
working towards the same goal. But then there's
also the power of looking forward to the future
and not focusing on the past. So whenever you
guys were in the state, you moved from Mexico
to Canada, What I was thinking about while you
were saying that was that over time you were
consistently working towards the goal of, whether
that be learning the language, whether that be
getting your citizenship, you're continuously
working towards a goal. And every time, even
in those times where you feel like you've failed,
you've already, like you're never starting over.
Because you've already learned, you've already
went through a process of learning everything
you need to learn to get to the point where you're
at. Yeah. So even whenever you're, say you stop,
like say if somebody was trying to learn a new
language and they stopped for like a few weeks,
well, they still have what they've already studied
and their brain already has that information.
So you're never truly starting again. You're
never going to be starting from zero again. You
might be going one step forward and a few, a
couple of steps back, but you're like, you're
never starting from zero. So that, so whenever,
as you're consistently working towards the same
goal, if you stay consistent, even in the times,
like you said, whenever you feel like there's
nothing truly, you feel like there's nothing
actually happening. you have to realize that
there actually is. And again, like you said,
once we got to the point of five years down the
road, you look back and you're like, wow, all
of that, now we're getting to this point, it
was worth it. And now you're in the middle point
where you're not to where you want to be, but
you're closer to them than where you were. It's
because you've been consistent, you've been pushing
forward, and your kids have been learning the
language, you're learning the languages. And
even whenever you feel like you're in that hardest
point, you kind of think back to all those things
that you learned so far and look forward to the
vision that you have for your future and then
focus on everything you need to learn and gain
to get to that point. And I think that's an amazing
thing that we can all focus on as we're going
through our lives. I even personally as a...
solopreneur I've tried so many different businesses
and so many times I've I felt like I was getting
nowhere but now I'm at a point where I can think
back about all the things I've learned and all
the books I was reading and everything that Sometimes
some knowledge that I didn't even remember that
I knew bubbles to the surface and I get to apply
it years after I read it in a book. Whenever
my goal was actually a different business or
a different prospect. I realized that while reading
that book. We're never starting from zero. I've
been consistently working towards building a
successful business. for over six years and now
I've been working on coaching being a life coach
for the last couple years last two or less two
-ish years and everything I've learned before
that is adding to this process is adding to my
entrepreneurship is adding to the knowledge that
I have and I want to say that to all the listeners
right now like you're never If you have a goal
you're reaching towards, and even when you're
in a rut, you're never starting from zero if
you've already won, if you've already started.
And if you haven't started, now's the time. If
you're starting from zero, then start now. Because
you're never going to... If you don't start now,
when are you going to start? Yeah, and as I see,
it's putting into a box of... toolboxes you know
it's all the tools that you have the experience
all the the even the bad experience everything
that's happening in your life everything new
you learn is putting in into your box and then
you're gonna be able to be more uh i don't know
if it's the world wisdom but uh every time that
you try to do something new you're gonna be more
like being more intelligent because all the bad
experiences i mean right Something I learned
from Spencer Hoffman, one of my mentors, is sometimes
you need to embrace your failures. Yeah. Because
they will help you in the future. Maybe you don't
know where or when, but at some point you will
use those bad experiences too in your favor.
And something I learned from Alex Hormozzi also
is like, if you want to go far, you need to go
be with people around you. yourself i mean yeah
you want to build a big business you can do it
by yourself and when i started it was one of
my mistakes that i tried to be the involved in
everything aspects of the business and i didn't
have the time because i was doing marketing i
was in sales i was doing like everything and
it's impossible to do it that way and um but
That was a mistake I did at the beginning. And
I knew that I need people around me to help me
to grow my business. And something we need to
learn also is how to deal with people and how
to manage. And that's the point when I realized
that one thing is being a boss. And then when
I... Starting learning about John Maxwell and
how he speaks about leadership. It was at some
point that I was like, oh my God, I prefer to
be someone that inspires people to do the things,
not forcing them. So that's where leadership
got in action at that moment for me. when I changed
the way of being leader instead of being a boss.
Yeah. And that inspired me a lot. That's why
I, after, I mean, I know John Maxwell for, I
don't know, maybe more than 10 years. I just
take the, I decided to join John Maxwell leadership
team in December 24, yeah, last year. But, I've
been following his messages and not only him,
I have a lot of other people that have been inspiring
me. Yeah. And yeah, the thing is being a leader
is better than being a boss. What's the difference?
Well, I think the big difference is when you...
Boss is like being authority. It's being a position
and a control. And basically a boss says, do
this because I say so. But being a leader is
about influence, inspiration, and service. A
true leader says, let's do this together. And
here's why it matters. One, manage tasks. The
other, develop people. I think it's a big difference.
I like that. You say one manages and distributes
tasks and the other, what was the other thing
you said about the leader? Inspires people. Yeah,
it inspires people and makes them believe in
themselves also. It inspires them. And I think
if you really, if the people around you and your
team, you really matter what happens with them
and you really try to understand them and they
feel it. They're going to work better. Yeah.
Because they feel like they need a team that
they care. Yeah. Yeah, they feel like they matter.
Exactly. Yeah, they have that... If they get
the recognition for the work that they do and
you treat them like you... I like when leaders
spend that one -on -one time. with with the people
who they're leading and it's like and like talking
with them asking them like treating them like
a person instead of instead of like a cog in
the wheel yeah and at the end the people follow
uh people who inspire not not for not follow
titles you know and they follow the vision the
trust and the authenticity yeah of uh yourself
and i think it's something that we have to develop
in our life Huh? I was going to say, one thing
you, sorry if you had more to say there, I was
going to shift to another question. Oh, okay,
okay, go ahead. One thing that you mentioned,
since we're on the topic of leadership, one thing
you mentioned during our pre -interview is about
cross -generation leadership. Okay, yeah. So,
we're in different generations, and so how can...
we learn to communicate and lead cross generations,
whether it be me, like someone in my generation
leading somebody in your generation or vice versa.
Well, I have a, what is it? C generation with
the kids, with my son, my teenager. Yeah. And
we have a big difference of you, but. I found
a way to communicate with him. And I think that
the key is humility and curiosity. Yeah, humility
and curiosity, yeah. Yeah, and I try to, in some
way, to connect with him. I have to be creative,
innovative. And I also try to be... How can I
say? They learn a lot of things so fast now.
And they have this thing of trying to be speaking
fast. I mean, not speaking too fast. I mean,
it's like one minute. It's not too much. They
do not have attention. Something happened with
this generation that they need. immediately and
uh but if we understand that that the the way
he they work now and then you're gonna connect
better yeah and uh the the real thing is that
i when i spoke with my son for instance i always
uh letting him know that i'm gonna be here for
him see possibilities It's not like being confronting
ideas because you try to say, like, I have the
experience, I have the knowledge. They don't
like that. Yeah. But if you try to be in a position
that you say, hey, let me tell you something
or let me explain you something or be in a way
that he feels like, okay. i'm gonna i'm gonna
share with you my time and and i know that it's
important then they they be they try to be more
open and then is when all this difference between
uh ages and stay a lot outside and then you can
speak with him and i think that's the the thing
with um when we The way we can connect is when
you open and say, I'm going to try to help you
in some way. And then the other side say, okay,
you're going to help me. It's perfect. Great.
I want it. Yeah. I think that's like John Maxwell's,
he said, like walking slowly through the crowd.
Yeah. As you're leading people through, instead
of like, Just walking past people, you're walking,
you're stopping, you're like you were saying,
you're asking, what can I do for you? Like the
leader, the one thing that John likes to do is
flip the pyramid on its head and put the leader
at the bottom. And so the leader serves up, serves
everyone that is, quote unquote, under him in
the hierarchy and goes to. And gets to lead through
service. Gets to lead through helping those who
are serving those who are with them. Yeah. Sorry.
The one thing that I when I connect with my son
was when I make him feel like I'm not just your
father is like i'm your father yeah but uh i
want to serve you and then it's something magical
with what with that word because he's starting
being more um open and then he started to talk
about his uh well he he has a lot of uh things
in his head that what afraid of their dreams
and things like he has never talked about he's
starting to be fluent with me with that things
yeah it was a very nice way to and i think it
was something small is when when i i make him
feel like i really care about you and and i want
to serve you and i want to to put all my experience
all my knowledge He opens to that. And I think
it's because the new generation, we have a lot
of differences. But there are ways to communicate.
There are ways to connect. That's what I like
to say. And yeah, I mean, it's just part of the...
For me, it's like, okay, I know that... we can
connect and find the ways. Yeah. It's the only
thing. We need to ask ourselves, how can I connect
with them? Yeah. And everything goes so much
better. And yeah, it has been a great relationship.
It's better now than one year ago. And that happens
thanks to that. Yeah. work on, we hit around
the 30 minute mark. So I'm going to, uh, I got
a couple of questions. What's up? I did not.
Is that the, uh, no worries. Okay. I'm going
to work on, I have a couple of final questions
I want to ask you while we wrap up. Okay. And
with those questions, um, and it's something
I, I learned, I get, so I can, we can provide
things to the listeners for them to go back to.
Um, one thing is what is a resource? Let's say
the, what is the top, the number one resource
that you like to recommend to people that, um,
whether it becomes, whenever it comes to communication
and leadership. Wow. Communication. Okay. Uh,
now, like I told you, I'm reading the 15 laws.
Yeah. John Maxwell for growth. This is a great,
uh, have another book that I'm. I've been preparing
for a mastermind in a couple of weeks. I think
this one is amazing. Everyone communicates if
you connect. Yeah, I love that one. Yeah, and
the resources I have, I love podcasts. Yeah.
And you mentioned one, the Milet show. This is
an amazing show. And, well... For businesses,
I follow the game from Alex Olmosi, which is
another one of the guys I really follow. And
actually, I have wrote the two previous books,
the 100 Million Offer and 100 Million Lead. And
now I have the 100 Million Money Models, it's
called. Yeah. And there are also a few podcasts
that I really love. One is the Resilient Mind.
yeah in the school of greatness of uh lewis hope
okay those those two and well uh mel robbins
also it's amazing that the woman also yeah and
um one of the other tools probably i can share
or something is journaling It sometimes sounds
so simple, but writing your thoughts, your goals,
your daily things that happen around you, is
your power to get clarity and direction in your
life. It's something that I... I use iPhone,
and on iPhone you have a journal, you can write
thoughts on it. And I use a lot that application.
And yeah, I think it's, I mean, if you want to
learn something, you need to find the person
who has the answers. It's something that Henry
Ford says once when people ask how to create
a car. And he said, well, call my engineer in
some part and bring my people the... painting
and it's like i don't have all the answers i
have the team and i have the the important thing
is having the phone of the people to know you
need to know so find the people you if you want
to learn something try to go and find the guy
who knows that how to yeah i think it's the fastest
way having mentors and coaches for sure yeah
and um they're gonna I mean, you're going to
spend money, but the time you're going to, the
years of knowing something by yourself is going
to be shortened for a long time. And the bad
experience you're going to put aside because
you're going to learn from someone who has already
passed through that process. And I think it's
easier. And it's the best advice that I get when
I started. for sure yeah and i think it's a good
advice definitely yeah definitely mentors are
the best way to learn what the things that you
want to learn and if one i think i've heard before
if you don't know if you don't have any mentors
in your life you can always start with books
you start with the authors of those books and
see what they're doing if you don't have anybody
directly in your life that you know and you're
working on seeking those people out start with
books Start with the authors of the books of
people who are where you want to be. What are
they saying? That is a form of mentorship because
these people put out their books, like John Maxwell
put out his books, in order to be able to reach
a wider audience than he could reach just one
-on -one by himself. Now, of course, the one
-on -one experience with an in -person mentor
is going to be able to... uh provide a lot a
lot of different kinds of fruit and it's going
to be uh even more beneficial than reading just
reading the book however a book is a book is
a great place to start um and then final question
for you louise who do you know that i should
know this is a great question i like to ask to
see um what are the what guests uh as i move
forward would uh be awesome to have on the podcast
in the future Well, I have a thinking about that
question when you send it, send it to me. And,
um, I don't know a lot of, um, English speaker
people, but I have two in my mind. Yeah. They
both are in the U S one is Santa Hope. She's
a Colombian, but she lives in Florida. Okay.
And she's focusing on helping couples and how
to manage finance in a couple in a mariage. Okay.
And another one is Fernando Gonzalez, which is
one of the top leaders in MLM companies. He has
been involved in network marketing for, I don't
know, maybe more than three years, I think. creating
teams and leader uh creating leaders i mean it's
not just being uh someone has has a lot of clients
he has a lot of people as uh he has meant to
see a lot of people and being leader and yeah
he has uh when i tried to learn about leadership
one of my first uh goal was to him because i
knew that he was the guy that He knew how to
lead teams. Yeah. Yeah, he has a lot of experience,
has a lot of knowledge. And yeah, if you want
to know how to create a great team in MLM, for
instance, he's one of those guys that, I mean,
companies, when they launch products, they call
him. And I have been... he has been involved
in the starting up of some MLMs companies and
then this has been like advisor teams. Yeah.
And I'd say, wow, it's, it's great. And yeah.
And both, I'm pretty sure they speak in English
too. So it's awesome. Great. For your job. Yeah.
Well, I appreciate it. Well, we'll talk a little
bit more after the recording about those two,
but. But Luis, thank you for being on the Pursuit
of Calling podcast. And thank you for those who
have listened to the full episode. I appreciate
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