WEBVTT 00:00:08.359 --> 00:00:11.140 What's going on, Pursuers? Welcome to The Pursuit 00:00:11.140 --> 00:00:14.339 of Calling, the podcast that provides you with 00:00:14.339 --> 00:00:17.260 the strategies and tools needed to successfully 00:00:17.260 --> 00:00:20.820 discover and pursue your calling. Whether it's 00:00:20.820 --> 00:00:23.239 through inspiring stories, thought -provoking 00:00:23.239 --> 00:00:26.160 interviews, or quick, insightful episodes on 00:00:26.160 --> 00:00:28.559 personal growth and development, we've got you 00:00:28.559 --> 00:00:32.359 covered. I'm your host, Thomas Carney. Enjoy 00:00:32.359 --> 00:00:41.250 the episode. All right. Welcome to this episode 00:00:41.250 --> 00:00:44.549 of the Pursuit of Calling podcast. And today 00:00:44.549 --> 00:00:48.490 we have a guest, another guest from Maxwell Leadership. 00:00:49.009 --> 00:00:50.929 That's where the majority of my guests have been 00:00:50.929 --> 00:00:53.750 coming from recently, as you know. And today 00:00:53.750 --> 00:00:58.109 we have Luis. And from our previous pre -interview 00:00:58.109 --> 00:01:00.789 conversation, I learned that he has been an online 00:01:00.789 --> 00:01:03.670 entrepreneur for the last 11 years. I learned 00:01:03.670 --> 00:01:10.409 that this is his first ever recording in english 00:01:10.409 --> 00:01:16.409 so effort every podcast in english so uh this 00:01:16.409 --> 00:01:20.629 is pretty a pretty great honor so to be able 00:01:20.629 --> 00:01:22.750 to provide him with that opportunity for him 00:01:22.750 --> 00:01:25.409 for his yes to be on the procedure of calling 00:01:25.409 --> 00:01:31.549 podcast so yeah louise thank you for being on 00:01:32.120 --> 00:01:34.560 Thank you so much. And thanks for the opportunity. 00:01:34.819 --> 00:01:37.260 I mean, I have podcasts in Spanish. I've been 00:01:37.260 --> 00:01:40.579 working in Spanish for all my life. And now being 00:01:40.579 --> 00:01:43.840 able to speak to your audience and being on English 00:01:43.840 --> 00:01:48.040 podcast, it means a lot to me because probably 00:01:48.040 --> 00:01:51.480 I'm going to jump in the English market in the 00:01:51.480 --> 00:01:55.040 future. So this is a good start. And being in 00:01:55.040 --> 00:01:57.700 your show is amazing. Thank you so much for your 00:01:57.700 --> 00:02:03.739 time. For sure. For sure. Awesome. So, Luis, 00:02:03.920 --> 00:02:08.780 for those who don't know you, who is Luis? Well, 00:02:08.879 --> 00:02:12.659 I'm originally from Mexico, like you say, and 00:02:12.659 --> 00:02:17.199 I'm now a vice in Canada. I've always been passionate 00:02:17.199 --> 00:02:19.360 about helping entrepreneurs and professionals 00:02:19.360 --> 00:02:27.240 grow. In 2011, because of insecurity and a lot 00:02:27.240 --> 00:02:29.379 of problems in Mexico, I decided to move from 00:02:29.379 --> 00:02:33.969 a traditional... business moving to the online 00:02:33.969 --> 00:02:39.030 business and i started my digital marketing agency 00:02:39.030 --> 00:02:43.889 at that time and over the years i've built businesses 00:02:43.889 --> 00:02:50.090 in this digital space helping entrepreneurs and 00:02:50.090 --> 00:02:54.580 coaching people building their personal brand. 00:02:55.139 --> 00:02:58.680 Most recently, well, I'm focused on empowering 00:02:58.680 --> 00:03:01.740 others through leadership training and maximum 00:03:01.740 --> 00:03:07.960 leadership as my core. And I'm a family man, 00:03:08.080 --> 00:03:11.159 lifelong learner, and someone who really believes 00:03:11.159 --> 00:03:16.900 helping people unlock their potential. And that's 00:03:16.900 --> 00:03:20.159 why I create a podcast called E90 +, which means 00:03:20.159 --> 00:03:24.849 excellence. is when you reach 90 or plus of your 00:03:24.849 --> 00:03:28.750 full potential, not being perfect. Some of the 00:03:28.750 --> 00:03:32.810 big issues I found is a lot of people, they have 00:03:32.810 --> 00:03:36.370 been struggling or they never start a business 00:03:36.370 --> 00:03:38.330 or they never start something because they are 00:03:38.330 --> 00:03:42.509 afraid of not being perfect. And for me, that's 00:03:42.509 --> 00:03:46.889 a big mistake. And that's why I truly believe 00:03:46.889 --> 00:03:50.520 more on being excellent more than perfect. And 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:54.860 being excellent is being 90 plus. That's the 00:03:54.860 --> 00:03:59.659 idea that they chose behind. So that's a little 00:03:59.659 --> 00:04:08.259 about me. Great. Great. Great. I'm glad you told 00:04:08.259 --> 00:04:13.060 them about what 90 plus means. Because I agree, 00:04:13.159 --> 00:04:16.319 excellence isn't about being perfect. It's about... 00:04:16.860 --> 00:04:22.360 uh one way to look at excellence is um exceeding 00:04:22.360 --> 00:04:26.560 expectations exactly so like if you're at your 00:04:26.560 --> 00:04:29.980 job and your but your boss has a particular expectation 00:04:29.980 --> 00:04:33.420 of you and like as far as your role goes excellence 00:04:33.420 --> 00:04:35.480 would be exceeding the expectations that your 00:04:35.480 --> 00:04:39.019 role would provide and that's how people get 00:04:39.019 --> 00:04:41.759 promoted that's how people get um get raises 00:04:41.759 --> 00:04:46.680 is by going above and beyond what they're actually 00:04:46.680 --> 00:04:53.740 being, uh, asked to do. Yeah. I mean, it's, uh, 00:04:53.879 --> 00:04:58.720 it's a philosophy for me. It's like, uh, you 00:04:58.720 --> 00:05:04.600 know, every time you, you can grow and grow in 00:05:04.600 --> 00:05:08.399 this part of, uh, being excellent and being, 00:05:08.459 --> 00:05:18.310 but, uh, How can I say it? I want to break some 00:05:18.310 --> 00:05:21.649 barriers of people that they don't really believe 00:05:21.649 --> 00:05:28.209 that. And that's my goal. It's like pushing themselves 00:05:28.209 --> 00:05:33.810 to go forward. Yeah. Try to exceed their expectations, 00:05:34.209 --> 00:05:38.050 try to be the best you can without expecting 00:05:38.050 --> 00:05:43.189 to be perfect. Yeah. You know, like... Sometimes 00:05:43.189 --> 00:05:47.389 people say, I'm not feeling that I can do it. 00:05:48.589 --> 00:05:51.550 Something strange happens when you try it and 00:05:51.550 --> 00:05:55.509 you do it something. And even if you don't feel 00:05:55.509 --> 00:05:58.430 like you can or you're not capable to do it, 00:05:58.810 --> 00:06:03.569 but then when you do it, you say, I can't believe 00:06:03.569 --> 00:06:07.410 it. I did it. And it was easy. Sometimes you 00:06:07.410 --> 00:06:09.449 can say it was easier than I thought. Yeah, because 00:06:09.449 --> 00:06:13.899 you did it. You know, it's just be confident 00:06:13.899 --> 00:06:17.500 that everything is going to be there and find 00:06:17.500 --> 00:06:22.060 a way. I think it's believing in ourselves is 00:06:22.060 --> 00:06:29.139 very hard sometimes. But when you really do it, 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:33.519 I think you can achieve things that you never 00:06:33.519 --> 00:06:38.259 thought you could in your life. It's not just 00:06:38.259 --> 00:06:42.209 in businesses, you know. It's in life, in all 00:06:42.209 --> 00:06:45.470 aspects. Being a parent, the first time my first 00:06:45.470 --> 00:06:49.850 boy was born, I was scared. I was like, oh my 00:06:49.850 --> 00:06:54.970 God, what am I going to do? Two weeks ago, he's 00:06:54.970 --> 00:06:59.750 15 now, we went to a restaurant and I... Curiously, 00:06:59.769 --> 00:07:02.410 I was scrolling my phone and I found that picture, 00:07:02.550 --> 00:07:05.209 the first one that I took when it was like this 00:07:05.209 --> 00:07:11.389 size. When I carried him, I thought that, oh 00:07:11.389 --> 00:07:13.889 my God, it's not going to break it. I don't know 00:07:13.889 --> 00:07:19.990 what to do, how to hold him. Yeah, I mean, I 00:07:19.990 --> 00:07:22.230 have seen people that they don't want to have 00:07:22.230 --> 00:07:26.920 kids because they feel afraid. rise kids or I 00:07:26.920 --> 00:07:29.740 mean this is something that happens to all of 00:07:29.740 --> 00:07:32.600 us in all aspects not just being in businesses 00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:38.540 in the jobs as parents or as a husband as a friend 00:07:38.540 --> 00:07:45.519 in many ways we sometimes we don't go for more 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:49.279 And it's because we are afraid. And that's my 00:07:49.279 --> 00:07:52.060 message. I want to, it doesn't matter, try to 00:07:52.060 --> 00:07:57.879 go forward and be brave. Yeah. Yeah, you want 00:07:57.879 --> 00:08:00.139 people to even beat their expectations that they 00:08:00.139 --> 00:08:05.860 have of themselves. Yeah. Well, I have been helping 00:08:05.860 --> 00:08:09.019 some business and doing that and entrepreneurs. 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:13.839 But I'm also now, like I told you, it's more 00:08:13.839 --> 00:08:21.120 focused. in helping people. I mean, it's something 00:08:21.120 --> 00:08:25.480 that I'm doing for myself and also for my kids. 00:08:25.819 --> 00:08:30.740 I want to inspire them and helping them. And 00:08:30.740 --> 00:08:37.500 yeah, it's my mission, you know. Imagine being 00:08:37.500 --> 00:08:42.340 someone coming from a country when I arrived 00:08:42.340 --> 00:08:46.870 in Canada in 2020. I realized that Quebec, Montreal, 00:08:47.029 --> 00:08:49.330 in the city where I live, is French speakers. 00:08:49.509 --> 00:08:53.269 I just speak English and Spanish, and I didn't 00:08:53.269 --> 00:08:57.509 have a word. I mean, I only knew we, bonjour, 00:08:57.690 --> 00:09:01.590 things like that in French. But learning a new 00:09:01.590 --> 00:09:07.509 language, imagine if I came with a mindset of... 00:09:08.190 --> 00:09:11.230 is so hard i'm not gonna make it and i will never 00:09:11.230 --> 00:09:14.389 learn and i i can't say that i speak french now 00:09:14.389 --> 00:09:17.450 not perfect but i can't communicate with people 00:09:17.450 --> 00:09:21.289 in in french and i live in in a country that 00:09:21.289 --> 00:09:25.230 is different from my from mine uh it was in 2020 00:09:25.230 --> 00:09:29.259 when we were in the middle of the pandemic It 00:09:29.259 --> 00:09:32.419 was a hard time. We stayed 14 days in our apartment 00:09:32.419 --> 00:09:36.259 without knowing nobody. We have no family, no 00:09:36.259 --> 00:09:41.059 friends. Oh, wow. Yeah, it was a challenge. But 00:09:41.059 --> 00:09:44.620 it's when you push yourself to go out there and 00:09:44.620 --> 00:09:47.820 you believe. And I don't know how we make it, 00:09:47.840 --> 00:09:51.799 to be honest, when I speak with my wife. And 00:09:51.799 --> 00:09:55.639 we didn't have a car. We just used, imagine being 00:09:55.639 --> 00:09:59.399 in a stroller with my kids, going to take my 00:09:59.399 --> 00:10:03.940 older son to his school. And the first, it was 00:10:03.940 --> 00:10:06.679 an experience once that it was raining, but it 00:10:06.679 --> 00:10:12.059 was with the wind. And I put the plastic for 00:10:12.059 --> 00:10:15.620 the roll of my kids and then the wind left all 00:10:15.620 --> 00:10:19.080 in his face while they were watering from him. 00:10:19.580 --> 00:10:23.179 And I was, asking by myself, like, God, what 00:10:23.179 --> 00:10:26.179 I'm doing here? And it was a very desperate moment. 00:10:26.259 --> 00:10:29.220 It was one or two days in all those five years 00:10:29.220 --> 00:10:32.659 I have been here. Like, I asked myself, like, 00:10:32.659 --> 00:10:38.340 is this really the thing I should do? And because 00:10:38.340 --> 00:10:42.360 you have some moments of weakness or, you know, 00:10:42.419 --> 00:10:47.740 that you are doubting if you take the right decision. 00:10:48.910 --> 00:10:52.730 And after, well, now I can say that, yeah, it 00:10:52.730 --> 00:10:59.190 was good. We are fine. But there are some times 00:10:59.190 --> 00:11:02.909 that you feel in darkness and things not going 00:11:02.909 --> 00:11:05.330 the way you expected that it was going to be. 00:11:06.629 --> 00:11:11.250 But then we happened, we passed all those hard 00:11:11.250 --> 00:11:15.389 times, and you turn your head and see what you 00:11:15.389 --> 00:11:19.019 have achieved and what you did. say oh my god 00:11:19.019 --> 00:11:23.659 we did it a lot and we are so happy to be here 00:11:23.659 --> 00:11:27.919 and my kids they are they speak three language 00:11:27.919 --> 00:11:30.679 so much better than me because they speak spanish 00:11:30.679 --> 00:11:34.299 english and french and they are they speak like 00:11:34.299 --> 00:11:39.100 natives wow yeah it's it's amazing because if 00:11:39.100 --> 00:11:41.019 you start in a new language when you are a kid 00:11:41.019 --> 00:11:46.580 imagine this is being like uh sponge that get 00:11:46.580 --> 00:11:50.019 old and and yeah you don't you speak like uh 00:11:50.019 --> 00:11:54.000 with accent like myself now but they they speak 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:58.600 like natives and it's amazing and um in a multicultural 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:02.419 country is something that they have been great 00:12:02.419 --> 00:12:08.700 experience for them so yeah we if we were negatives 00:12:08.700 --> 00:12:11.700 in our mindset and our mindset when we started 00:12:11.700 --> 00:12:15.490 probably we never make it And we were positive. 00:12:15.590 --> 00:12:20.669 We believe in the process. We haven't all the 00:12:20.669 --> 00:12:22.769 answers at that moment. And we have a lot of 00:12:22.769 --> 00:12:28.429 doubts. But after five years now, we are in the 00:12:28.429 --> 00:12:32.029 way. Like I told you, we're in the way to be 00:12:32.029 --> 00:12:35.110 permanent residents probably in a couple of years. 00:12:35.830 --> 00:12:43.039 And it was an amazing journey. Yeah. With ups 00:12:43.039 --> 00:12:45.399 and downs. It's not my life. It's not like that. 00:12:45.480 --> 00:12:49.279 It's not perfect, too. So it's what I started 00:12:49.279 --> 00:12:53.500 realizing that try not to be perfect. Try to 00:12:53.500 --> 00:12:55.820 be excellent. It's the only thing we can make 00:12:55.820 --> 00:12:59.259 if we really believe in our process and ourselves. 00:12:59.559 --> 00:13:02.840 But for believing in ourselves, I think we need 00:13:02.840 --> 00:13:10.340 to push our lives to a limit and go. forward 00:13:10.340 --> 00:13:14.820 and moving and that's what I'm trying to inspire 00:13:14.820 --> 00:13:19.700 people to to believe in and going there got it 00:13:19.700 --> 00:13:23.700 yeah what you deserve simple like that for sure 00:13:23.700 --> 00:13:30.480 yeah there's um hmm sorry I had so many thoughts 00:13:30.480 --> 00:13:37.080 on what we were saying and uh when man I can't 00:13:37.080 --> 00:13:44.450 remember think of it now um Hmm. Right. Okay. 00:13:44.509 --> 00:13:50.250 So, yeah, you mentioned about how before you 00:13:50.250 --> 00:13:52.789 moved in, you got to Canada, you didn't see yourself 00:13:52.789 --> 00:13:56.350 as Native, right? Yeah, well, my kids speak very 00:13:56.350 --> 00:14:01.809 well. Right. And I'm reading a book right now 00:14:01.809 --> 00:14:06.450 by Ed Milet, if you've heard of Ed Milet. Yeah. 00:14:07.769 --> 00:14:12.789 Actually, I'm a subscriber to his podcast. And 00:14:12.789 --> 00:14:15.269 it's called The Power of One More. It's a book 00:14:15.269 --> 00:14:18.929 I'm reading right now. And one thing he mentions 00:14:18.929 --> 00:14:25.009 in the book is one, not only that consistent, 00:14:27.110 --> 00:14:29.429 I think even John Maxwell talks about it, Craig 00:14:29.429 --> 00:14:33.929 Rochelle talks about it, is the power of compounding. 00:14:35.599 --> 00:14:39.960 and also that compounding happens as you move 00:14:39.960 --> 00:14:42.899 forward if you're continuously and consistently 00:14:42.899 --> 00:14:46.360 working towards the same goal. But then there's 00:14:46.360 --> 00:14:50.559 also the power of looking forward to the future 00:14:50.559 --> 00:14:54.179 and not focusing on the past. So whenever you 00:14:54.179 --> 00:15:00.879 guys were in the state, you moved from Mexico 00:15:00.879 --> 00:15:05.659 to Canada, What I was thinking about while you 00:15:05.659 --> 00:15:13.480 were saying that was that over time you were 00:15:13.480 --> 00:15:16.960 consistently working towards the goal of, whether 00:15:16.960 --> 00:15:19.059 that be learning the language, whether that be 00:15:19.059 --> 00:15:23.940 getting your citizenship, you're continuously 00:15:23.940 --> 00:15:26.820 working towards a goal. And every time, even 00:15:26.820 --> 00:15:29.059 in those times where you feel like you've failed, 00:15:30.279 --> 00:15:32.519 you've already, like you're never starting over. 00:15:33.679 --> 00:15:35.960 Because you've already learned, you've already 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:39.080 went through a process of learning everything 00:15:39.080 --> 00:15:41.419 you need to learn to get to the point where you're 00:15:41.419 --> 00:15:45.539 at. Yeah. So even whenever you're, say you stop, 00:15:45.720 --> 00:15:47.700 like say if somebody was trying to learn a new 00:15:47.700 --> 00:15:50.620 language and they stopped for like a few weeks, 00:15:50.840 --> 00:15:55.580 well, they still have what they've already studied 00:15:55.580 --> 00:15:57.740 and their brain already has that information. 00:15:58.399 --> 00:16:00.299 So you're never truly starting again. You're 00:16:00.299 --> 00:16:02.659 never going to be starting from zero again. You 00:16:02.659 --> 00:16:04.379 might be going one step forward and a few, a 00:16:04.379 --> 00:16:08.720 couple of steps back, but you're like, you're 00:16:08.720 --> 00:16:10.759 never starting from zero. So that, so whenever, 00:16:10.779 --> 00:16:13.460 as you're consistently working towards the same 00:16:13.460 --> 00:16:20.480 goal, if you stay consistent, even in the times, 00:16:20.480 --> 00:16:21.940 like you said, whenever you feel like there's 00:16:21.940 --> 00:16:24.899 nothing truly, you feel like there's nothing 00:16:24.899 --> 00:16:28.120 actually happening. you have to realize that 00:16:28.120 --> 00:16:29.879 there actually is. And again, like you said, 00:16:29.919 --> 00:16:31.639 once we got to the point of five years down the 00:16:31.639 --> 00:16:33.200 road, you look back and you're like, wow, all 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:34.759 of that, now we're getting to this point, it 00:16:34.759 --> 00:16:37.659 was worth it. And now you're in the middle point 00:16:37.659 --> 00:16:39.779 where you're not to where you want to be, but 00:16:39.779 --> 00:16:42.779 you're closer to them than where you were. It's 00:16:42.779 --> 00:16:47.259 because you've been consistent, you've been pushing 00:16:47.259 --> 00:16:50.659 forward, and your kids have been learning the 00:16:50.659 --> 00:16:53.629 language, you're learning the languages. And 00:16:53.629 --> 00:16:55.590 even whenever you feel like you're in that hardest 00:16:55.590 --> 00:16:58.169 point, you kind of think back to all those things 00:16:58.169 --> 00:17:00.529 that you learned so far and look forward to the 00:17:00.529 --> 00:17:02.450 vision that you have for your future and then 00:17:02.450 --> 00:17:04.809 focus on everything you need to learn and gain 00:17:04.809 --> 00:17:09.069 to get to that point. And I think that's an amazing 00:17:09.069 --> 00:17:14.549 thing that we can all focus on as we're going 00:17:14.549 --> 00:17:17.589 through our lives. I even personally as a... 00:17:20.109 --> 00:17:22.990 solopreneur I've tried so many different businesses 00:17:22.990 --> 00:17:28.990 and so many times I've I felt like I was getting 00:17:28.990 --> 00:17:33.390 nowhere but now I'm at a point where I can think 00:17:33.390 --> 00:17:35.910 back about all the things I've learned and all 00:17:35.910 --> 00:17:40.470 the books I was reading and everything that Sometimes 00:17:40.470 --> 00:17:44.430 some knowledge that I didn't even remember that 00:17:44.430 --> 00:17:46.789 I knew bubbles to the surface and I get to apply 00:17:46.789 --> 00:17:51.569 it years after I read it in a book. Whenever 00:17:51.569 --> 00:17:54.450 my goal was actually a different business or 00:17:54.450 --> 00:18:01.190 a different prospect. I realized that while reading 00:18:01.190 --> 00:18:04.890 that book. We're never starting from zero. I've 00:18:04.890 --> 00:18:07.650 been consistently working towards building a 00:18:07.650 --> 00:18:13.079 successful business. for over six years and now 00:18:13.079 --> 00:18:16.779 I've been working on coaching being a life coach 00:18:16.779 --> 00:18:20.019 for the last couple years last two or less two 00:18:20.019 --> 00:18:21.819 -ish years and everything I've learned before 00:18:21.819 --> 00:18:25.480 that is adding to this process is adding to my 00:18:25.480 --> 00:18:27.460 entrepreneurship is adding to the knowledge that 00:18:27.460 --> 00:18:32.099 I have and I want to say that to all the listeners 00:18:32.099 --> 00:18:34.750 right now like you're never If you have a goal 00:18:34.750 --> 00:18:36.990 you're reaching towards, and even when you're 00:18:36.990 --> 00:18:38.970 in a rut, you're never starting from zero if 00:18:38.970 --> 00:18:41.150 you've already won, if you've already started. 00:18:41.289 --> 00:18:44.609 And if you haven't started, now's the time. If 00:18:44.609 --> 00:18:47.990 you're starting from zero, then start now. Because 00:18:47.990 --> 00:18:53.349 you're never going to... If you don't start now, 00:18:53.650 --> 00:18:58.009 when are you going to start? Yeah, and as I see, 00:18:58.130 --> 00:19:02.099 it's putting into a box of... toolboxes you know 00:19:02.099 --> 00:19:04.700 it's all the tools that you have the experience 00:19:04.700 --> 00:19:07.859 all the the even the bad experience everything 00:19:07.859 --> 00:19:10.460 that's happening in your life everything new 00:19:10.460 --> 00:19:15.160 you learn is putting in into your box and then 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:18.960 you're gonna be able to be more uh i don't know 00:19:18.960 --> 00:19:21.940 if it's the world wisdom but uh every time that 00:19:21.940 --> 00:19:25.539 you try to do something new you're gonna be more 00:19:25.539 --> 00:19:28.539 like being more intelligent because all the bad 00:19:28.539 --> 00:19:32.660 experiences i mean right Something I learned 00:19:32.660 --> 00:19:36.480 from Spencer Hoffman, one of my mentors, is sometimes 00:19:36.480 --> 00:19:39.839 you need to embrace your failures. Yeah. Because 00:19:39.839 --> 00:19:43.819 they will help you in the future. Maybe you don't 00:19:43.819 --> 00:19:47.220 know where or when, but at some point you will 00:19:47.220 --> 00:19:50.779 use those bad experiences too in your favor. 00:19:50.920 --> 00:19:53.799 And something I learned from Alex Hormozzi also 00:19:53.799 --> 00:19:56.759 is like, if you want to go far, you need to go 00:19:56.759 --> 00:20:02.599 be with people around you. yourself i mean yeah 00:20:02.599 --> 00:20:05.779 you want to build a big business you can do it 00:20:05.779 --> 00:20:09.019 by yourself and when i started it was one of 00:20:09.019 --> 00:20:13.180 my mistakes that i tried to be the involved in 00:20:13.180 --> 00:20:16.799 everything aspects of the business and i didn't 00:20:16.799 --> 00:20:20.839 have the time because i was doing marketing i 00:20:20.839 --> 00:20:23.599 was in sales i was doing like everything and 00:20:23.599 --> 00:20:27.920 it's impossible to do it that way and um but 00:20:28.349 --> 00:20:31.329 That was a mistake I did at the beginning. And 00:20:31.329 --> 00:20:35.710 I knew that I need people around me to help me 00:20:35.710 --> 00:20:40.769 to grow my business. And something we need to 00:20:40.769 --> 00:20:45.450 learn also is how to deal with people and how 00:20:45.450 --> 00:20:49.430 to manage. And that's the point when I realized 00:20:49.430 --> 00:20:53.309 that one thing is being a boss. And then when 00:20:53.309 --> 00:20:56.460 I... Starting learning about John Maxwell and 00:20:56.460 --> 00:21:04.259 how he speaks about leadership. It was at some 00:21:04.259 --> 00:21:09.059 point that I was like, oh my God, I prefer to 00:21:09.059 --> 00:21:12.500 be someone that inspires people to do the things, 00:21:12.579 --> 00:21:16.039 not forcing them. So that's where leadership 00:21:16.039 --> 00:21:21.200 got in action at that moment for me. when I changed 00:21:21.200 --> 00:21:24.720 the way of being leader instead of being a boss. 00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:29.619 Yeah. And that inspired me a lot. That's why 00:21:29.619 --> 00:21:33.859 I, after, I mean, I know John Maxwell for, I 00:21:33.859 --> 00:21:37.940 don't know, maybe more than 10 years. I just 00:21:37.940 --> 00:21:42.359 take the, I decided to join John Maxwell leadership 00:21:42.359 --> 00:21:50.150 team in December 24, yeah, last year. But, I've 00:21:50.150 --> 00:21:54.529 been following his messages and not only him, 00:21:54.650 --> 00:21:58.650 I have a lot of other people that have been inspiring 00:21:58.650 --> 00:22:05.769 me. Yeah. And yeah, the thing is being a leader 00:22:05.769 --> 00:22:09.410 is better than being a boss. What's the difference? 00:22:09.809 --> 00:22:14.109 Well, I think the big difference is when you... 00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:22.279 Boss is like being authority. It's being a position 00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:27.160 and a control. And basically a boss says, do 00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:30.700 this because I say so. But being a leader is 00:22:30.700 --> 00:22:33.819 about influence, inspiration, and service. A 00:22:33.819 --> 00:22:37.680 true leader says, let's do this together. And 00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:41.779 here's why it matters. One, manage tasks. The 00:22:41.779 --> 00:22:44.640 other, develop people. I think it's a big difference. 00:22:45.180 --> 00:22:50.109 I like that. You say one manages and distributes 00:22:50.109 --> 00:22:52.910 tasks and the other, what was the other thing 00:22:52.910 --> 00:22:56.490 you said about the leader? Inspires people. Yeah, 00:22:56.509 --> 00:23:00.230 it inspires people and makes them believe in 00:23:00.230 --> 00:23:03.970 themselves also. It inspires them. And I think 00:23:03.970 --> 00:23:08.230 if you really, if the people around you and your 00:23:08.230 --> 00:23:11.329 team, you really matter what happens with them 00:23:11.329 --> 00:23:15.130 and you really try to understand them and they 00:23:15.130 --> 00:23:20.210 feel it. They're going to work better. Yeah. 00:23:21.109 --> 00:23:25.490 Because they feel like they need a team that 00:23:25.490 --> 00:23:29.990 they care. Yeah. Yeah, they feel like they matter. 00:23:30.289 --> 00:23:35.809 Exactly. Yeah, they have that... If they get 00:23:35.809 --> 00:23:37.769 the recognition for the work that they do and 00:23:37.769 --> 00:23:41.869 you treat them like you... I like when leaders 00:23:41.869 --> 00:23:45.329 spend that one -on -one time. with with the people 00:23:45.329 --> 00:23:48.490 who they're leading and it's like and like talking 00:23:48.490 --> 00:23:50.309 with them asking them like treating them like 00:23:50.309 --> 00:23:51.970 a person instead of instead of like a cog in 00:23:51.970 --> 00:23:55.450 the wheel yeah and at the end the people follow 00:23:55.450 --> 00:23:59.910 uh people who inspire not not for not follow 00:23:59.910 --> 00:24:03.789 titles you know and they follow the vision the 00:24:03.789 --> 00:24:06.930 trust and the authenticity yeah of uh yourself 00:24:06.930 --> 00:24:09.930 and i think it's something that we have to develop 00:24:09.930 --> 00:24:15.269 in our life Huh? I was going to say, one thing 00:24:15.269 --> 00:24:18.150 you, sorry if you had more to say there, I was 00:24:18.150 --> 00:24:20.410 going to shift to another question. Oh, okay, 00:24:20.490 --> 00:24:23.190 okay, go ahead. One thing that you mentioned, 00:24:23.289 --> 00:24:26.890 since we're on the topic of leadership, one thing 00:24:26.890 --> 00:24:29.329 you mentioned during our pre -interview is about 00:24:29.329 --> 00:24:33.369 cross -generation leadership. Okay, yeah. So, 00:24:33.369 --> 00:24:37.910 we're in different generations, and so how can... 00:24:38.539 --> 00:24:41.880 we learn to communicate and lead cross generations, 00:24:42.160 --> 00:24:46.819 whether it be me, like someone in my generation 00:24:46.819 --> 00:24:48.819 leading somebody in your generation or vice versa. 00:24:49.640 --> 00:24:57.160 Well, I have a, what is it? C generation with 00:24:57.160 --> 00:25:02.660 the kids, with my son, my teenager. Yeah. And 00:25:02.660 --> 00:25:08.829 we have a big difference of you, but. I found 00:25:08.829 --> 00:25:12.309 a way to communicate with him. And I think that 00:25:12.309 --> 00:25:18.349 the key is humility and curiosity. Yeah, humility 00:25:18.349 --> 00:25:23.609 and curiosity, yeah. Yeah, and I try to, in some 00:25:23.609 --> 00:25:28.809 way, to connect with him. I have to be creative, 00:25:29.029 --> 00:25:38.759 innovative. And I also try to be... How can I 00:25:38.759 --> 00:25:44.279 say? They learn a lot of things so fast now. 00:25:44.480 --> 00:25:49.500 And they have this thing of trying to be speaking 00:25:49.500 --> 00:25:55.380 fast. I mean, not speaking too fast. I mean, 00:25:55.420 --> 00:25:59.480 it's like one minute. It's not too much. They 00:25:59.480 --> 00:26:03.240 do not have attention. Something happened with 00:26:03.240 --> 00:26:06.799 this generation that they need. immediately and 00:26:06.799 --> 00:26:11.640 uh but if we understand that that the the way 00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:14.779 he they work now and then you're gonna connect 00:26:14.779 --> 00:26:20.039 better yeah and uh the the real thing is that 00:26:20.039 --> 00:26:23.539 i when i spoke with my son for instance i always 00:26:23.539 --> 00:26:27.880 uh letting him know that i'm gonna be here for 00:26:27.880 --> 00:26:33.240 him see possibilities It's not like being confronting 00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:40.339 ideas because you try to say, like, I have the 00:26:40.339 --> 00:26:43.259 experience, I have the knowledge. They don't 00:26:43.259 --> 00:26:50.940 like that. Yeah. But if you try to be in a position 00:26:50.940 --> 00:26:55.099 that you say, hey, let me tell you something 00:26:55.099 --> 00:26:58.720 or let me explain you something or be in a way 00:26:58.720 --> 00:27:02.579 that he feels like, okay. i'm gonna i'm gonna 00:27:02.579 --> 00:27:05.359 share with you my time and and i know that it's 00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:10.579 important then they they be they try to be more 00:27:10.579 --> 00:27:14.240 open and then is when all this difference between 00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:21.119 uh ages and stay a lot outside and then you can 00:27:21.119 --> 00:27:24.279 speak with him and i think that's the the thing 00:27:24.279 --> 00:27:32.039 with um when we The way we can connect is when 00:27:32.039 --> 00:27:37.220 you open and say, I'm going to try to help you 00:27:37.220 --> 00:27:40.700 in some way. And then the other side say, okay, 00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:43.460 you're going to help me. It's perfect. Great. 00:27:43.720 --> 00:27:48.400 I want it. Yeah. I think that's like John Maxwell's, 00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:50.940 he said, like walking slowly through the crowd. 00:27:51.279 --> 00:27:57.299 Yeah. As you're leading people through, instead 00:27:57.299 --> 00:28:00.039 of like, Just walking past people, you're walking, 00:28:00.059 --> 00:28:02.839 you're stopping, you're like you were saying, 00:28:03.140 --> 00:28:07.140 you're asking, what can I do for you? Like the 00:28:07.140 --> 00:28:10.720 leader, the one thing that John likes to do is 00:28:10.720 --> 00:28:14.539 flip the pyramid on its head and put the leader 00:28:14.539 --> 00:28:18.660 at the bottom. And so the leader serves up, serves 00:28:18.660 --> 00:28:21.619 everyone that is, quote unquote, under him in 00:28:21.619 --> 00:28:31.680 the hierarchy and goes to. And gets to lead through 00:28:31.680 --> 00:28:35.839 service. Gets to lead through helping those who 00:28:35.839 --> 00:28:42.859 are serving those who are with them. Yeah. Sorry. 00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:51.099 The one thing that I when I connect with my son 00:28:51.099 --> 00:28:55.730 was when I make him feel like I'm not just your 00:28:55.730 --> 00:28:59.289 father is like i'm your father yeah but uh i 00:28:59.289 --> 00:29:04.009 want to serve you and then it's something magical 00:29:04.009 --> 00:29:07.509 with what with that word because he's starting 00:29:07.509 --> 00:29:13.730 being more um open and then he started to talk 00:29:13.730 --> 00:29:19.170 about his uh well he he has a lot of uh things 00:29:19.170 --> 00:29:24.650 in his head that what afraid of their dreams 00:29:24.650 --> 00:29:27.390 and things like he has never talked about he's 00:29:27.390 --> 00:29:30.349 starting to be fluent with me with that things 00:29:30.349 --> 00:29:34.849 yeah it was a very nice way to and i think it 00:29:34.849 --> 00:29:37.890 was something small is when when i i make him 00:29:37.890 --> 00:29:40.789 feel like i really care about you and and i want 00:29:40.789 --> 00:29:44.230 to serve you and i want to to put all my experience 00:29:44.230 --> 00:29:48.890 all my knowledge He opens to that. And I think 00:29:48.890 --> 00:29:54.569 it's because the new generation, we have a lot 00:29:54.569 --> 00:29:58.430 of differences. But there are ways to communicate. 00:29:58.750 --> 00:30:00.829 There are ways to connect. That's what I like 00:30:00.829 --> 00:30:06.750 to say. And yeah, I mean, it's just part of the... 00:30:06.750 --> 00:30:15.829 For me, it's like, okay, I know that... we can 00:30:15.829 --> 00:30:20.569 connect and find the ways. Yeah. It's the only 00:30:20.569 --> 00:30:23.630 thing. We need to ask ourselves, how can I connect 00:30:23.630 --> 00:30:27.789 with them? Yeah. And everything goes so much 00:30:27.789 --> 00:30:31.190 better. And yeah, it has been a great relationship. 00:30:32.650 --> 00:30:38.289 It's better now than one year ago. And that happens 00:30:38.289 --> 00:30:44.920 thanks to that. Yeah. work on, we hit around 00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:47.079 the 30 minute mark. So I'm going to, uh, I got 00:30:47.079 --> 00:30:50.660 a couple of questions. What's up? I did not. 00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:53.500 Is that the, uh, no worries. Okay. I'm going 00:30:53.500 --> 00:30:56.680 to work on, I have a couple of final questions 00:30:56.680 --> 00:30:59.779 I want to ask you while we wrap up. Okay. And 00:30:59.779 --> 00:31:04.460 with those questions, um, and it's something 00:31:04.460 --> 00:31:06.839 I, I learned, I get, so I can, we can provide 00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:09.400 things to the listeners for them to go back to. 00:31:09.519 --> 00:31:13.359 Um, one thing is what is a resource? Let's say 00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:15.599 the, what is the top, the number one resource 00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:18.660 that you like to recommend to people that, um, 00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:20.700 whether it becomes, whenever it comes to communication 00:31:20.700 --> 00:31:27.319 and leadership. Wow. Communication. Okay. Uh, 00:31:27.660 --> 00:31:31.059 now, like I told you, I'm reading the 15 laws. 00:31:31.480 --> 00:31:35.259 Yeah. John Maxwell for growth. This is a great, 00:31:35.519 --> 00:31:40.059 uh, have another book that I'm. I've been preparing 00:31:40.059 --> 00:31:43.099 for a mastermind in a couple of weeks. I think 00:31:43.099 --> 00:31:47.019 this one is amazing. Everyone communicates if 00:31:47.019 --> 00:31:50.240 you connect. Yeah, I love that one. Yeah, and 00:31:50.240 --> 00:31:58.839 the resources I have, I love podcasts. Yeah. 00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:02.819 And you mentioned one, the Milet show. This is 00:32:02.819 --> 00:32:07.180 an amazing show. And, well... For businesses, 00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:10.099 I follow the game from Alex Olmosi, which is 00:32:10.099 --> 00:32:13.180 another one of the guys I really follow. And 00:32:13.180 --> 00:32:17.720 actually, I have wrote the two previous books, 00:32:18.039 --> 00:32:22.859 the 100 Million Offer and 100 Million Lead. And 00:32:22.859 --> 00:32:26.859 now I have the 100 Million Money Models, it's 00:32:26.859 --> 00:32:30.619 called. Yeah. And there are also a few podcasts 00:32:30.619 --> 00:32:34.519 that I really love. One is the Resilient Mind. 00:32:35.150 --> 00:32:38.410 yeah in the school of greatness of uh lewis hope 00:32:38.410 --> 00:32:43.769 okay those those two and well uh mel robbins 00:32:43.769 --> 00:32:48.009 also it's amazing that the woman also yeah and 00:32:48.009 --> 00:32:55.410 um one of the other tools probably i can share 00:32:55.410 --> 00:33:01.140 or something is journaling It sometimes sounds 00:33:01.140 --> 00:33:04.240 so simple, but writing your thoughts, your goals, 00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:10.319 your daily things that happen around you, is 00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:14.099 your power to get clarity and direction in your 00:33:14.099 --> 00:33:19.539 life. It's something that I... I use iPhone, 00:33:19.700 --> 00:33:22.740 and on iPhone you have a journal, you can write 00:33:22.740 --> 00:33:25.299 thoughts on it. And I use a lot that application. 00:33:27.289 --> 00:33:33.509 And yeah, I think it's, I mean, if you want to 00:33:33.509 --> 00:33:35.509 learn something, you need to find the person 00:33:35.509 --> 00:33:38.450 who has the answers. It's something that Henry 00:33:38.450 --> 00:33:43.450 Ford says once when people ask how to create 00:33:43.450 --> 00:33:47.210 a car. And he said, well, call my engineer in 00:33:47.210 --> 00:33:52.779 some part and bring my people the... painting 00:33:52.779 --> 00:33:55.700 and it's like i don't have all the answers i 00:33:55.700 --> 00:34:00.359 have the team and i have the the important thing 00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:03.220 is having the phone of the people to know you 00:34:03.220 --> 00:34:07.599 need to know so find the people you if you want 00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:09.940 to learn something try to go and find the guy 00:34:09.940 --> 00:34:13.579 who knows that how to yeah i think it's the fastest 00:34:13.579 --> 00:34:17.360 way having mentors and coaches for sure yeah 00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:21.289 and um they're gonna I mean, you're going to 00:34:21.289 --> 00:34:24.829 spend money, but the time you're going to, the 00:34:24.829 --> 00:34:28.530 years of knowing something by yourself is going 00:34:28.530 --> 00:34:32.670 to be shortened for a long time. And the bad 00:34:32.670 --> 00:34:34.230 experience you're going to put aside because 00:34:34.230 --> 00:34:38.090 you're going to learn from someone who has already 00:34:38.090 --> 00:34:41.849 passed through that process. And I think it's 00:34:41.849 --> 00:34:46.170 easier. And it's the best advice that I get when 00:34:46.170 --> 00:34:51.920 I started. for sure yeah and i think it's a good 00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:55.699 advice definitely yeah definitely mentors are 00:34:55.699 --> 00:34:58.760 the best way to learn what the things that you 00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:02.039 want to learn and if one i think i've heard before 00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:04.539 if you don't know if you don't have any mentors 00:35:04.539 --> 00:35:06.099 in your life you can always start with books 00:35:06.099 --> 00:35:08.380 you start with the authors of those books and 00:35:08.380 --> 00:35:09.739 see what they're doing if you don't have anybody 00:35:09.739 --> 00:35:12.739 directly in your life that you know and you're 00:35:12.739 --> 00:35:14.800 working on seeking those people out start with 00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:17.539 books Start with the authors of the books of 00:35:17.539 --> 00:35:20.440 people who are where you want to be. What are 00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:24.619 they saying? That is a form of mentorship because 00:35:24.619 --> 00:35:26.599 these people put out their books, like John Maxwell 00:35:26.599 --> 00:35:28.880 put out his books, in order to be able to reach 00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:31.219 a wider audience than he could reach just one 00:35:31.219 --> 00:35:34.260 -on -one by himself. Now, of course, the one 00:35:34.260 --> 00:35:36.440 -on -one experience with an in -person mentor 00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:40.659 is going to be able to... uh provide a lot a 00:35:40.659 --> 00:35:42.599 lot of different kinds of fruit and it's going 00:35:42.599 --> 00:35:45.260 to be uh even more beneficial than reading just 00:35:45.260 --> 00:35:48.440 reading the book however a book is a book is 00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:51.800 a great place to start um and then final question 00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:55.000 for you louise who do you know that i should 00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:57.480 know this is a great question i like to ask to 00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:02.119 see um what are the what guests uh as i move 00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:04.460 forward would uh be awesome to have on the podcast 00:36:04.460 --> 00:36:08.010 in the future Well, I have a thinking about that 00:36:08.010 --> 00:36:10.730 question when you send it, send it to me. And, 00:36:10.750 --> 00:36:14.769 um, I don't know a lot of, um, English speaker 00:36:14.769 --> 00:36:19.010 people, but I have two in my mind. Yeah. They 00:36:19.010 --> 00:36:22.510 both are in the U S one is Santa Hope. She's 00:36:22.510 --> 00:36:25.739 a Colombian, but she lives in Florida. Okay. 00:36:25.820 --> 00:36:30.840 And she's focusing on helping couples and how 00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:36.800 to manage finance in a couple in a mariage. Okay. 00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:40.519 And another one is Fernando Gonzalez, which is 00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:44.360 one of the top leaders in MLM companies. He has 00:36:44.360 --> 00:36:47.860 been involved in network marketing for, I don't 00:36:47.860 --> 00:36:52.539 know, maybe more than three years, I think. creating 00:36:52.539 --> 00:36:57.539 teams and leader uh creating leaders i mean it's 00:36:57.539 --> 00:37:02.940 not just being uh someone has has a lot of clients 00:37:02.940 --> 00:37:06.679 he has a lot of people as uh he has meant to 00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:10.579 see a lot of people and being leader and yeah 00:37:10.579 --> 00:37:14.940 he has uh when i tried to learn about leadership 00:37:14.940 --> 00:37:19.820 one of my first uh goal was to him because i 00:37:19.820 --> 00:37:22.980 knew that he was the guy that He knew how to 00:37:22.980 --> 00:37:30.019 lead teams. Yeah. Yeah, he has a lot of experience, 00:37:30.219 --> 00:37:35.199 has a lot of knowledge. And yeah, if you want 00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:40.699 to know how to create a great team in MLM, for 00:37:40.699 --> 00:37:43.619 instance, he's one of those guys that, I mean, 00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:47.019 companies, when they launch products, they call 00:37:47.019 --> 00:37:51.460 him. And I have been... he has been involved 00:37:51.460 --> 00:37:55.860 in the starting up of some MLMs companies and 00:37:55.860 --> 00:37:59.360 then this has been like advisor teams. Yeah. 00:37:59.480 --> 00:38:02.079 And I'd say, wow, it's, it's great. And yeah. 00:38:02.739 --> 00:38:05.559 And both, I'm pretty sure they speak in English 00:38:05.559 --> 00:38:11.980 too. So it's awesome. Great. For your job. Yeah. 00:38:12.119 --> 00:38:15.059 Well, I appreciate it. Well, we'll talk a little 00:38:15.059 --> 00:38:17.460 bit more after the recording about those two, 00:38:17.539 --> 00:38:21.130 but. But Luis, thank you for being on the Pursuit 00:38:21.130 --> 00:38:23.550 of Calling podcast. And thank you for those who 00:38:23.550 --> 00:38:26.590 have listened to the full episode. I appreciate 00:38:26.590 --> 00:38:29.269 it very much. And I'm sure Luis does as well. 00:38:29.469 --> 00:38:33.909 So if you want to go to Spotify, if you're already 00:38:33.909 --> 00:38:37.110 on Spotify, you can go ahead and give this podcast 00:38:37.110 --> 00:38:43.869 a five -star review. Leave a comment on the episode. 00:38:44.030 --> 00:38:46.769 Leave a review on Apple Podcasts or wherever 00:38:46.769 --> 00:38:49.190 else you listen to podcasts. Share this episode 00:38:49.190 --> 00:38:51.429 out with somebody that you believe would find 00:38:51.429 --> 00:38:54.610 it helpful. And guys, keep pursuing your calling. 00:38:54.789 --> 00:38:58.030 I'll see you next time. Bye.