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What's going on, Pursuers? Welcome to The Pursuit

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of Calling, the podcast that provides you with

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the strategies and tools needed to successfully

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discover and pursue your calling. Whether it's

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through inspiring stories, thought -provoking

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interviews, or quick, insightful episodes on

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personal growth and development, we've got you

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covered. I'm your host, Thomas Carney. Enjoy

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the episode. What's going on, guys? Welcome to

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this episode of the Pursuit of Calling podcast.

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Welcome, pursuers. So you already know from looking

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at the title of this episode that this is a revisit

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of living with pain and accomplishing goals.

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That was recorded last March, which is crazy

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to think. March of 2024, which is over a year

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ago. And I had to re -listen to that episode.

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Because recently, because I decided I wanted

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to go back over what I talked about. And man,

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the fire that was in my voice, that fire that

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was there, to want to share the things that I've

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learned on this journey of pain and suffering.

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I think back to that, and part of me is like,

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man, where'd that go? I'm thinking about the

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last couple episodes I put out. I'm wondering

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if maybe I lost focus in some sort of way of

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why I'm doing this podcast. So I wanted to revisit

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an episode where I was the happiest. I remember

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being the happiest. I could hear it in my voice.

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I'm sure you could too if you went back and listened

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to the episode, which I highly encourage you

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to do. You hear it in my voice. How happy and

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how... excited and comfortable I was to share

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my journey of pain and growth. So I'm going to

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go back over these lessons today because they're

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still true today. The lessons are understanding

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your own limits, your physical and mental health

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are strongly linked. Impatience isn't only a

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virtue, it's a necessity. That one's huge. I

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remember in the last episode, the last time I

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recorded this, When I was writing the notes,

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how excited and how it just clicked. That was

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one of the biggest lessons. And even as I was

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listening to this and reading the notes from

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this episode, I was teaching myself again. March

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of 2024, Thomas was teaching this Thomas, this

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current President Thomas, about being present.

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That patience is the only virtue, that it's a

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necessity. So I can't wait to go over that with

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you guys as well. So let's dive into the first

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lesson, the first thing I learned. Understanding

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your own limits. And I don't know if I said it

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already, so I'm going to say it now. There's

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no shame in asking for help. The most worthwhile

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things are done with others. You might be wondering,

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maybe you're wondering how this has to do with

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calling. I think maybe it's obvious, but your

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calling is, I've said it before, your calling

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isn't just for you, it's for everybody around

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you. And also, that whenever you're pursuing

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something, your calling, your calling isn't small.

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And in order to accomplish something large, in

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order to accomplish something big, you can't

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do it by yourself. The most worthwhile things

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are done with others. So there's multiple areas

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in life where your limits might be. It could

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be your time. You have knowledge and wisdom gaps.

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It could be physical and maybe even financial.

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Say with your time, we all have the same 24 hours

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in a day. But somehow there are people out there

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that seem to get so much more done than us. And

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some of that can be tied into really good time

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management skills. And they're able to do that

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and somehow not get overwhelmed. Somehow not

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get overwhelmed. And they're also able to then,

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like I said earlier, they also have other people

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in their corner. But you'll see that these people,

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they understand that they themselves have the

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limb of 24 hours, but then they can also bring

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other people in, whether they hire these people

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or they have volunteers with them that are helping

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them out, like how I have Ian. Hi, Ian. Helping

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me edit these podcasts. I'm not just utilizing

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my 24 hours. I'm also able to ask for the help

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of others who can then utilize their time to

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help me get other things done. I have limits.

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Everybody has limits. And everybody has the same

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24 hours. So then maybe you have knowledge and

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wisdom gaps. You don't know what you don't know,

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but a lot of the time you know who does. You

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probably have mentors in your life, some men

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or women, friends who you look up to, people

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that you've learned some things from before.

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I know I've learned a lot by just seeking out

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mentors and asking them questions. There's been

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many times when during our conversations, they

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teach me something that I wasn't expecting. One

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thing, I don't know if you remember, last time

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I recorded this, I listed off all my mentors

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that I had at the time. Mike Wallace, Ed Newell,

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Patrick Williams, Jesse Leachy, Jim Fink, Terry

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Bochner, and there are others. However, I remember

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this one time with Ed Newell, when he was on

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the episode of The Pursuit of Calling, and we

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were talking about finances. We got into the

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topic of what can you do right now to maybe increase

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your income. And one of the easiest things he

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told me was, and this is a great example of something

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that I highly encourage you to do. One of the

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things that he told me and told you guys, the

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audience, was get a high -yield savings account.

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Simple. High yield savings account. It was at

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5 % at the time with Wealthfront. And I honestly

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did it either the next day or that week. And

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I've had it since. And I've made almost $800

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just by letting my money sit. And that was something

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I wasn't expecting to learn from that. Honestly,

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I wasn't expecting to learn that. But that's

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why I love having these people that are also

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in my life that are filled with growth. that

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are looking to improve, have these hobbies that,

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like Ed with financial hobbies, like being able

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to then learn new things and give that knowledge

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to others and have that heart to be able to do

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that. Like, that was great. I want you to find

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people like that. Each person has taught me something

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different. Like I said, whether that be faith

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or financial. It could be financial discipline,

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maybe some mental fortitude. Like I talked to

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you about when I almost lost $4 ,000. I needed

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some mental fortitude. And at the time, Patrick

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Williams helped me figure that out. Or anything

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else in between. Maybe, let's keep moving. Maybe

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there's some physical limits. Now this is where

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I shine. I have some physical limits. You know,

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I have a condition called muscular dystonia.

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You know, I have that it limits and gives me

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pain every single day. If you're new here. Well,

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there you go. I have a condition called muscular

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dystonia. It's a neurological condition. My muscles

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kind of contract. I get pain in my arms, which

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is why I have these gloves on, if you're watching

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the video, and pain in my arms, up into my neck,

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and sometimes my jaw, my face. And that sucks.

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I think if I didn't have the faith that I have,

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and the people that God has surrounded me with,

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I would be like, man, I've been dealt a crap

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hand. But really, what this has allowed me to

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do through my own physical limits, it's caused

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me to rely on others and realize how much I can

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rely on others and trust others in my life more

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than I ever had to do before. One great example

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of that, I've said it before, I'm going to bring

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it up again because I love David. And I asked

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David, for those who don't know, I have a friend

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named David, and there was a time when I asked

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him whether, I talked to him about production

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before. I talked to him about production, I talked

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to him about how I, I talked to him about joining

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the team at our church. And I know I'm talking

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fast. I'm going to slow down a little bit. And

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he showed some interest, right? So there was

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a day when my pain was getting high, and I didn't

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know what my limits were, if I should be doing

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computer work, if I shouldn't be doing it on

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the weekend. So I reached out to him, like, Saturday.

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And church was on Sunday morning, as it be. And

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I asked him, hey, man, I got this. I have this

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condition. This is what's going on. Can you help

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me out tomorrow? He said yes, because he has

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a determined heart, and he's been serving on

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production ever since. And we're good friends.

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So it's like, as a result, God used what the

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enemy meant for evil and turned it for good.

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Man, I say so many times that this isn't a Christian

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podcast, but I can't help it sometimes. i've

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also been thinking about this random tangent

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but thinking about putting god back into the

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title back into the uh intro because that's kind

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of you know the he's kind of the foundation of

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my life but anyway um but also though like at

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physical the physical limits limit my driving

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Almost right after I'm done recording this, I'm

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going to a cookout that I can't get to by myself.

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But I have a great friend named Zach Thomas,

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who wasn't around whenever I recorded this last

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time. So I give a shout out to Zach. And I hope

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you're listening to the episode, Zach. But he's

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giving me a ride. I think within the last couple

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of weeks, he's given me at least three rides

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at three different places. And I couldn't ask

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for better friends. guys like i wouldn't be if

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i didn't have me i'm getting emotional if i didn't

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have the thought if i thought i had to do everything

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myself still in the condition that i have i'd

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be miserable i'd never see anybody i just have

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to invite people here and to my home and i would

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have to like um I will only be able to go grocery

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shopping and I will never push my limits. Like

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I don't – God, you need people. And even if you

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don't have a physical condition like I do, right?

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Like there are going to be times when your limits

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– when you hit your ceiling, you hit your limit

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and you can either lie down and take it or you

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can – Or you can stand up and reach out, pick

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up the phone, and reach out to those who are

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already in your corner. Man, think about that.

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Who's already in your corner? Who's already fighting

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for you? I'm going off. And this is what I was

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hoping was going to happen this episode. I didn't

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want to just do word for word from the last recording.

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But guys, who's already in your corner? Who can

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help you, especially with everything I've mentioned

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so far, and especially when you're pursuing your

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calling? Who are your advocates? Who are the

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people that are going to tell you when you're

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messing up, but also push you and help you network

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and point you in the direction of people that

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you can know on this pursuit of calling? Who

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do you know? Okay, but I'm getting ahead of myself.

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Let's move into the next section of financial

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limits. So asking for help financially is probably

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the hardest one. I don't know. It is for me anyway.

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Now this can be to ask for work to help others

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to get pay in return. Okay, sorry. I messed that

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up. You might have to cut that a little bit.

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But yeah. Okay, maybe you have financial limits,

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right? Maybe you have financial limits. And most

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of us do. Most people have financial limits.

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Maybe you're like me, I'm going on a missions

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trip in January, and I'm going to ask for donations

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because I have some financial limits because

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I have financial goals. I want to buy a house

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in a year, and so I'm going to figure out how

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I can raise the money to be able to go to Uganda

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for free. Minus the down payment, but it's fine.

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But the thing... I want to say about that is

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since I've been doing FPU recently, a lot of

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people have financial limits. And I know that.

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And FPU, Financial Peace University, have been

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co -coordinating one of those courses with Amplified

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Church. And the one thing I've noticed is sometimes

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people have limits and they don't even realize

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they do. I think that's a great thing to call

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out in people. For me, as a coordinator of these

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courses, and as somebody who has studied this

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side of finances and how to manage them, how

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to pay them off, how to pay off debt, how to

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build wealth at a maintainable rate of return,

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there's... You have limits. I'm going to say

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that directly to you. You have limits that are

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financial, whether you know it or not. If you're

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in credit card debt, if you're in any sort of

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debt really, that strongly limits your financial

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potential. So just think about that. And also,

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if there's somewhere that you... Also though,

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how can you raise that limit? Think about your

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financial limitations. That's also one of the

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other ones that you have power to change. Maybe

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you can get more work and get paid for that.

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Maybe you ask for a promotion or you continuously

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do better at your job so that you get a promotion.

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Maybe you've got to get a new job that will pay

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you more. That limit, that ceiling can get higher.

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But it can also get lower. But you've got to

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do what you've got to do whenever you're in certain

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stages of life. Okay. That was one lesson. So

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I need to move on. I'm going to say your physical

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and mental health are strongly linked is the

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next lesson. You know, and I wrote in my notes,

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there's a lot of people out there that, you know,

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they say, like, especially at the gym, there's

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guys that are like, my body is a temple. And

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like, you get those guys kind of, you know, annoy

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some people. But the funny thing is that it's

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true. As a Christian, I believe that my body

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and I believe that every Christian's body is

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a temple for the Holy Spirit. So I want to treat

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it the best way that I can. I am constantly learning

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about what my body does and doesn't like. And

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like recently I've been using, I have it on right

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now. It's called a whoop armband and it's a health

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tracker. It shows me when, like how much strain,

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like how much activity I've had in the day. And

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it tells me how much strain I should have in

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the day based on where, like based on the metrics

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that it. tells me and then like you can keep

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a journal and keep a journal of of every pretty

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much all these different things that you do in

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your day like have you like what activities you've

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done when you woke up when you went to bed when

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did you do did you intermittent do intermittent

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fasting do you go to like when did you eat did

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you snack and all the all these different things

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and it tells you like and eventually it gives

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you these metrics it tells you whether you're

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doing like what is good for your recovery and

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what isn't what's good for your health and what's

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not And that's really kind of helped me understand

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that a little bit better. And the reason I'm

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bringing this up is because I noticed that whenever

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my recovery, that's what they call it in Woop,

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when my recovery is low, my mental fortitude

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is lacking. As a developer, I'm... My job is

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to use my brain and to problem solve. And I've

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noticed for a while that whenever I'm tired,

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whenever I haven't treated my body well the day

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before, it's a lot harder for me to problem solve.

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Whenever my body doesn't feel well, my brain

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doesn't work as well. Does that make sense? You'll

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be able to function better mentally and physically

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if you eat the right foods, if you work out.

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If you work out in the right ways, that's right

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for you. If you just treat this gift that you've

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been given of this body well. I think I made

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the example last time with food about putting...

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You want to eat the right foods. You want your

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fuel that you put in your body to be good. You're

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not going to eat... If you're truly... If you

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truly care about your own health, you don't go

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out and eat fast food, right? If you truly care

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about your health, you don't go out to eat all

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the time because that's also financial health,

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but physical health because there aren't great

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ingredients all the time in food that you eat

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out whenever you eat out. And I think I made

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the example of you want to put chocolate syrup

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in your gas tank because your car won't run.

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You want the right fuel that will fuel your body

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to run at its optimal capacity. Because then

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your mind will work well as well. Your brain

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uses that same fuel. All right. Last lesson.

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Patience isn't only a virtue, it's a necessity.

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So waiting is a huge part of life. I've had doctor's

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appointments months in between. where and actually

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have a couple coming up after like six months

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because that's just what they do now um and it

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sucks like like it sucks like like it doesn't

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really feel like those give me anything anymore

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but i still go to them because maybe they will

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because like every now and then they give me

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something but most of the time like i say that

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it's like 50 50 and These doctor's appointments

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are months and months and months apart. And it's

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hard. But also realizing that it's not just patients

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in the doctor's appointments. It's also patients

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in things for you, like diet. You went on a diet

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for a week and you're wondering why you haven't

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lost as much weight as you wanted yet. It's going

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to take time. Working out, same thing. It's going

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to take you multiple times to go to the gym to

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build the muscle that you want to build. Learning

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something new, you're not going to understand

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it the first time. You might not even understand

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it the second time. Maybe you've got to read

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that book three times to really understand what

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the author is saying. And you've got to take

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notes. It's going to take time for you to understand

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something new. And now finally, pursuing your

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calling takes time and it's a continuous season

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of your life. Pursuing your calling, it takes

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time, it takes effort, it takes patience. And

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now this is the biggest thing that I remember

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I said in the beginning of this recording that

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I was going to need to talk about more because

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it's something I need to hear. It's something

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I need to say because I feel like I've forgotten

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that patience. That patience is not a virtue,

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but it's a necessity. That life is a waiting

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game. You're always waiting for something. And

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right now I'm waiting to learn and waiting for

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clients to come in for my coaching business.

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I'm waiting to find the people that I'm meant

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to serve, that I'm called to serve. So maybe

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if you're in the same boat as me, maybe that

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you're waiting for people to serve. You don't

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know who to serve and you don't know what you're

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doing in your life. It takes time. If you don't

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know what your calling is, pray. Ask God. Take

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time with him. If you're not a Christian, I would

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still encourage you to do that. I would still

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encourage you to do that. also for both Christians

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and non -Christians, go ahead and I have a Discover

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Your Kong Planning Guide. It just asks some simple

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questions about, like, what do you enjoy doing?

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What are the things that you do that seem to

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make time fly? Like things that you love so much

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that you don't even notice that you've done it

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for two, three hours. The last thing I have here

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is when things are at their hardest is when you

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need to buckle down, grit your teeth, and hold

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on, even if there's nothing to do but wait. And

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this waiting is when you can and should be readying

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yourself for what comes next. Waiting doesn't

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mean you're doing nothing. It means you're preparing.

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And that's what I needed to hear. These are notes

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from the last time I recorded this episode. Waiting

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doesn't mean you're doing nothing. It means you're

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preparing. You're preparing for whatever God

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has for you next. You're preparing for that doctor's

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appointment. You're preparing for that next big

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break, for that raise, for that promotion. You're

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preparing maybe for your future wife or your

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future husband. You're preparing everything.

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And that's why it takes time. Preparation doesn't

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happen in an instant. There is no such thing

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as overnight success. It's all about what we're

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doing. behind closed doors by ourselves how are

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we how are we buckling down gritting your teeth

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and pushing forward and now i know that i just

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said do it by yourself but you're like thomas

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you just say there's yeah we like you just talked

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about in the beginning like how like you need

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people and all of you need people and all these

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things you just talked about that so much why

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did you say do things by yourself because like

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why why would i say that Why would I say you're

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doing, why would I say that? Why would I say,

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do things by yourself? Sorry, I know I'm repeating

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myself. Because what you do behind closed doors

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reproduce the fruit of what happens outside of

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them. Let me say that again. What you're doing

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behind closed doors produces the fruit of what

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happens outside of those doors. So what you do

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when you're not around people is going to help

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you produce even better fruit with the people

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that you're living life with and pursuing your

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calling alongside of. That's what I'm going to

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leave you with today. I know this was a lot.

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This was a longer episode. And maybe I'll do

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a few more episodes to break each piece of this

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down a little bit more and go into some different

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detail. Let me know if that would be worth it.

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And let me know if that would be worth it. Let

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me know what you'd be interested in hearing on

00:26:34.019 --> 00:26:35.599
an episode of the Pursuit of Calling podcast.

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Maybe you want me to dive into something. Maybe

00:26:38.740 --> 00:26:40.380
you want me to dive into something I talked about

00:26:40.380 --> 00:26:43.720
in a little bit more detail specifically. That'd

00:26:43.720 --> 00:26:46.440
be great to know because it helps me figure out

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what my listeners want to hear. And I would love

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to be able to serve you in that way. So go ahead

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and post that in the comments on YouTube, on

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Spotify, Apple Podcasts. We review a five -star

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on Spotify, Apple Podcasts. Maybe a thumbs up

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on YouTube. Smash that like button. Oh, that

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was cringy. And guys, don't forget to share on

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social media. And go on. Keep pursuing your calling.

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I'll see you next time.
