Guys, in this episode, we're going to have Josh Gerard on and you don't want to miss
a second.
He's such a funny guy.
He's such a great guy.
Like he's going to share his journey of finding purpose in the everyday moments.
And I don't think that's something we think about too often.
We don't think about purpose in the mundane.
That's really what we're talking about here.
He emphasizes the impact of small actions and habits in these everyday moments.
He highlights the role of purpose and motivation, both personally and in society.
We talk about relationships and how we can build those to make gratitude a habit.
And then Josh, he offers some insightful perspectives on living a purpose driven life.
So don't miss a second.
Let's get into it.
Hi guys.
Welcome to Techly Short.
I'm Sean.
I'm Thomas.
And today we've got a special guest for you in our series of Why Are You Here?
Yeah guys.
And before we dive in, I want to say remember to follow, share, give us five stars and let's
dive into the episode.
So our guest for today is Josh Gerard.
That's me.
That's how I say it.
Thanks for having me guys.
Yeah.
This is exciting.
Sean's been asking to have you on for a while.
He hasn't asked me to ask you.
He's been asking me.
I don't know yet.
I don't know.
We said this before.
I think we said this in one of the previous episodes.
Sean is very like dive in head first.
I'm like, okay, I dip my toes in.
I think he's more spontaneous.
Let's just do it.
I'm like, okay, I need more information.
Yeah.
And there was nothing against you.
That was just like, that was like after we had more conversations and you and I had those
conversations, I'm here when you were here in our home, I totally did not forget that
that was a different thing that happened before you were here.
No one else understood what I just said.
Reference to.
But very soft spoken most of the time.
So yeah, appreciate you being here and saying yes and appreciate your yes.
Yeah.
So before we dive in, as always, as everybody is used to us doing, we start every guest
episode with exaltations and every people, depending on the, sometimes people don't like
it by not the listeners, but they're like, I don't like when people say good things about
me.
But yeah, Sean and I have our own things kind of written out.
I've written here for those who don't know Josh, here's a quick rundown.
He's a fantastic young, young man.
I make myself sound old, but this is a brain dump.
I did.
I hope you bring these drawings to our room.
He's a husband and an up and coming leader.
He's an inspiration as someone who so young aspires to be the leader he knows God has
created him to be.
And I think like, whenever we would do our, like, we, you and I would meet up and do our
one on one for production or just, we just meet up and we try to do like leadership just
talks about like John going through Don Maxwell and lasted a little bit.
But like, that's what really what like kind of got into, like kind of gave me a little
more perspective of who you aspire to be, because you were already so into the leadership
mindset of like, and like you said, you've been in that realm of thought for a while.
And which was inspiring to me, because like, man, that was like, I was like, it's like,
I just got into this.
I was like, it was like a big rabbit hole.
Yeah.
So, so yeah, guys, that's, that's who I see Josh as.
Well, how I see Josh, I see Josh as a giver, a servant, a wonderful leader, a great husband,
and inspiration to the youth.
Josh and itself is, he's a leader of his company, one of the biggest companies in the world,
especially for fast food.
I'll let him tell you about it.
And Josh, I guess, where are we going to give him the 60 minutes, Phil?
Yeah, yeah, Josh.
But no, we, we, yeah, so, she threw me off, man.
Now we gave, yeah, we gave a little bit of introduction, but for those who don't know
you, don't know you that well, like, who is Josh, Joshua Gerard?
Joshua Gerard?
He grew up in Pittsburgh, lived there his whole life.
He was fun fact homeschooled all of his life.
So never really ate in the school cafeteria, just in my bed with a bag of pretzels every
day.
But yeah, growing up, I met my high school sweetheart.
We got married whenever I was 19.
She was 18, pursuing after God.
And that's where I am now, doing whatever he says to the best of my ability, because
I am not perfect by any means.
No, that's good, man.
That's really good.
I like having the different, like, we have like so many different types of people on
the show and like different ages, different, different ages, like, and different walks
of life.
So it's really, it's really, again, I want to thank you for being for being honest saying
yes.
I've been actually pretty excited for today.
As you know, this, this series that we're in is all about purpose.
So as you understand it, what is the purpose of purpose?
The purpose of purpose.
Well, for me, it's all about God and what he has for you, because ultimately, my purpose
here is to exalt him and lift him up in any way possible.
I may not know exactly what that purpose is all the time, but that's not always for me
to know at every point, because he reveals to you as you go through and through life,
what it is in different times.
But the purpose of purpose, it's there so you're not dragging through life, I believe,
because I've gone through a lot of my middle school years, I felt I had no purpose.
And it was probably the darkest times of my life.
And without that purpose, you just feel like you're wandering and every day becomes shorter
and there's nothing really that you're looking for.
Yeah.
In my experience.
This is a quick little fun fact.
People say your days get quicker.
And a lot of times that happens.
Actually, our brains will just delete information it doesn't need.
And if you're doing the same thing every single day, your days, weeks and years are just going
to feel like they fly by.
That's why people are like, go out on vacation, go do those fun things.
Or even just pursue this purpose where that's going to cause your life to change and grow
and have all these experiences.
Because that's what you're going to make you be able to look back on your life and just
have more to look back on and be excited that you have gone through those things.
And that's just something that pops in my head.
Yeah.
Life actually feels like life actually feels longer whenever you're doing different things.
And I think part of that is pursuing the pursuant purpose.
Yeah.
A lot of the time, it's life spent to remember because there was a purpose behind it.
Yeah.
I love what you said about dragging through life if you don't realize your purpose.
Because I feel like a lot of people, that's what they do.
They just, every day, same.
They're not really centered anywhere, not really going anywhere.
And for those people, I would love to say that you guys have a purpose, so wake up and
take notes because this is about to be a really good episode.
And Josh, why would you say, what is the importance of purpose?
The importance of purpose.
Yeah, it goes back to that, not only does it make you feel productive and it fills your
time, but there's reward through that purpose.
So if you're going on life with no purpose, what are you receiving for everything you
haven't done?
Yeah.
That's good.
Yeah, man, that's really good, actually.
Man, I was thinking of like, I can't remember all of them, but John Maxwell has his three
Rs.
Oh, he does.
I forget what they are, but- Runs reward.
I know that.
And it's, what are the things that you do that give you that greatest return?
And investing has that- ROI.
ROI.
And that's my mind a lot of the time, it's like, what is the ROI of the situation?
And a lot of the time, if there's not a return of me investing time, then it's not worth
doing.
And you can take that however you want to take that.
But I mean, how do you see that return on investment?
Not to benefit, but you return on the investment, you invest your time.
And you get the benefit of, like, you invest time, you invest your money, but you also
invest time in other people.
And it's like the return on the investment could be the growth in them.
Absolutely.
It's not just for you.
100%.
And I think we talked about this before, your purpose isn't just for you either.
Yeah, it's always bigger than you.
Always.
If it's truly a purpose, it will be.
To help serve others, to help others.
Yeah.
If your purpose is about you, there's always a bigger purpose you can take on.
Yeah, that's good.
So you touched on a little bit of this, but you said like, during your high school years,
you really struggled with your purpose.
And you said it was the darkest years of your life.
Can you give a little bit more context into that?
Yeah.
So in my middle school to early high school years, I had a lot of anxiety and depression.
And I feel like everybody has those waves.
But for me, it really tied into my self-worth.
I didn't feel like I had worth, therefore how could I give to a purpose?
And so I never had a purpose that whole time.
Well, I had a purpose, but I never felt a purpose.
I never strived for a purpose in those moments.
And it led me to a point of lack until I had to wake up and God came in and knocked down
my doors and said, hey, it's time to wake up.
I have a purpose for you.
I love you.
I care for you.
You do have worth.
It's something I have for you.
That's good.
That's so good.
This is one of Sean's questions that I want to ask.
Do you have a question you want to ask before I get that?
I really wanted to ask one of your questions.
No, no, no.
By all means.
Since you said that and you started, God showed you that you do have a purpose, what do you
believe your purpose is?
For me, everybody sort of has a different purpose.
And it's one thing important to know.
You may not always get this coming down from God moment saying you will be this, you will
be this, and you'll do this.
For me, it is absolutely nothing like that.
It is in every moment that I think of God, I need to represent Him to the best of my
ability.
Whether I'm going to the fridge to just grab a bottle of water, every action I have needs
to tie back to God.
Did I get this water?
Where did I get this water from?
I need to thank Him for this.
If I'm going out to the grocery store, I should never be swearing up a storm or beating up
an old lady for anything.
In every action I have, that's what I believe I need to, as part of my purpose, is to represent
God.
And that's through all the relationships I have as well with my wife.
Yes, a marriage is a great thing for you and another person, but ultimately for me it's
to represent God through that relationship.
So, later down the line, once me and my wife have been married for years, we can give better
advice to other people going forward about how you can go through life efficiently and
respecting God and giving honor to Him through everything.
That's so good.
And everything that I have to give it to God and represent Him through it.
I don't necessarily have a specific thing like I'm going to be a pastor one day.
Because there are people that are meant for that, like Mr. Sean over here.
He's got that purpose.
For me, it's in the mundane in every moment.
That I need to reevaluate everything I do at all times.
Man, that is so good.
The only take I've ever heard like that is Kendall.
Kendall has the same way of taking about purpose.
When you dive deep, it's like God gives me a purpose anywhere I'm at.
God gives me a purpose and I love that.
Because for me, starting off, I always thought that purpose was essentially your calling.
100%.
So, I thought to myself that, wow, this is incredible.
I love to hear you guys' take on it.
I really do.
It's really good.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
Dude, one thing I want to say, I think I said this on Kendall's episode too.
I really, Sean said I enjoy hearing other people's perspectives.
That's why we have guest speakers on so other people can hear it too.
Because Sean and I can only say so much.
Absolutely.
But I think there's, you said everybody has a different purpose.
And I was curious, do you believe your purpose is in the everyday mundane or do you believe
that there's an event you're going to one day have a moment where you're like, this
one particular thing, everything I feed, everything that is in the mundane feeds into this one
particular purpose that I'm pursuing or that it's just that mundane?
For me, it very well could change at any moment if God says, hey, you're going to become a
teacher, a counselor, whatever it is.
I feel like if it comes to that point, it's going to be a little bit in the future when
I have wisdom and experience in a lot of different endeavors.
Because I am still young.
I'm only 20 years old.
I only know so much about adulting.
But I feel if that's the case, it's probably going to come to me in multiple years down
the line so I can guide people through different situations in a godly way.
I think there's some humbleness there.
You are a very humble person because like, you're like, oh no.
I say that because you acknowledge I'm young.
I don't have this experience that I will have later.
I know that later down the line, I'm going to be like you said with your and Emily's
marriage, you're going to like, our marriage is young, we're young.
And once we have more years, that's when we'll be able to give other people advice on their
marriage, on their relationships.
And not that you can't do that now for different aspects, but you acknowledge that there's
still so much to learn.
And I wanted to point that out because you said you kind of went to that a couple of
times.
Yeah, I love to learn.
And currently now I'm learning another language.
I'm trying to learn Greek so I can understand the New Testament and the Bible more in its
original context.
But for me, I love learning.
Learning is just everything.
The more knowledge you gain, the better you can 100%.
That is so true.
And you have to have the wisdom with it.
Because knowledge without wisdom leads to governments collapsing and cities going down
and everything bad in the world.
Yeah.
But yeah, you know, knowledge.
I think where you and I are kind of in that same vein.
I love learning.
Like that's my favorite.
Like honestly, my favorite thing to do is learn.
And that matter, like that's why I feel like I'm a developer because that world's constantly
changing.
Yeah.
And like, technology is constantly growing.
You have to keep up with it.
You have to keep learning.
Are you going to be left behind?
Yeah.
You got to meet people where they're at and they're constantly moving forward.
So yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's good too.
Okay.
Go more into that.
Yeah.
You got to, yeah, if you're developing, you got to meet people where they're at because
if you're pouring in, how are you going to pour into someone's cup if it's 20 feet across
the room?
You got to learn where they're at.
Yeah.
You don't have to know exactly what they're doing and how their life is going.
I mean, it's great to know that.
Oh, my alarm.
But you have to, you got to at least meet them where you got to put in that effort to
be near them, like to know sort of what's going on so you can pour out in that moment.
Yeah.
You can pour out because that's ultimately what it is as a developer is coming to someone,
lifting them up and pushing them above you.
Man, you took that in my hand.
That was like, you made a connection I would have never made on my own because for me,
I was talking about developers and my job and you're like, yeah, you're developing other
people.
I'm like, that was so cool.
I'm happy that that's cool.
Yeah, that's cool.
Josh, you've got some wisdom for sure.
He's shooting nonstop wisdom today.
How do you lead others to find their purpose?
Yeah, it goes back into that.
You have to make a little bit of connection with people and that's a lot of where I struggled
in my recent growth and leadership is connecting with people because naturally I'm very mechanical
in my thinking, analytic and a lot of the time I don't think about how people are doing
in their situation, just what people are doing in their situation, not how people are doing
in their situation.
So you got to try and connect with those people and understand them a little bit better and
have them understand that you care.
It's a very famous quote, nobody cares how much you know until you know how much you
care.
So you've got to show that you care and then once you have that relationship, you pour
in whatever it is, the knowledge or wisdom that they're looking for and it can't be force
fed to them.
They have to at least be willing to receive it and that's where the care comes in.
So you have to care for them so they're open to receive and they're willing to learn and
grow and take on something new and you give them that information.
It's not always all at once because I mean honestly if you told everything wrong with
your life at one moment, how would you react?
You're like, that person's a snob.
I hate them.
But you've got to gradually and it comes in the wisdom part that I don't have 100% yet
because I'm still young, is knowing those moments and the timing of when you can give
someone something, when you can give them a little fruit snack information and then
take that.
Oh my gosh.
I felt like as you were speaking that you were referencing Jesus and how to get people
to salvation because it was so deep how you were explaining it because it is like most
of the time you do not have to straight up say, hey this, this and this, but you generally
have to show them that you care first and then you can go into, once you have a relationship
with them, go a little deeper and then say, okay, this is, you're going down the wrong
path because of this and this and this.
And it's like I think that is so deep and if a lot of other believers had that same
philosophy in their head, I think a lot of the world would be changed because I think
there's some people who just straight go at people which sometimes it is needed but other
times it's not.
Where sometimes you need to build a relationship first before you go into deep with somebody
because sometimes you don't have that opportunity and you need to go.
So it's very, wow, it was like eye opening as you were explaining it.
It just related to me into salvation.
I relate to me to John Maxwell.
Good to know you quoted about that quote.
I don't know if it's his quote.
I don't think it's his.
I think it's been around a fair long time.
He says it a lot though.
Yeah.
And because one thing that I thought I remembered was whenever you're leading people and if
you want to help other people discover their purpose, but a lot of those people, you discover
what their goals are and you discover their goals, what their interests are and you build
that relationship like Sean was saying.
And then if you're able to, if you're in that position, you feed them the opportunities
to be able to build on those interests and help them reach their goals so that they can
pursue whatever they're wanting to pursue.
How important is purpose to society?
Purpose is ultimately everything.
For society especially, I feel like a lot of us tend to have the outlook of everyone
else is lazy, but I'm putting forward this effort.
And that, I think a lot of that is you need to understand your purpose and once you know
what that is, you'll have the motivation to go forward and essentially get what you have
on your life done.
And it's continuous.
Yeah.
So it's a very big part of motivation especially in society.
It's like what John F. Kennedy said, he's like not ask what the country is doing for
you, but what can I do for my country?
And I'm not saying you have to be a full on patriot here, but like whatever your purpose
is do it with excellence.
You got to break that cycle of numbness.
Whether that's a wake up call and going up to your best friend who you know is doing
great things and like be like, what the heck am I doing wrong?
Or just being like, I got to go to church, man.
I got to figure out what it is this God purpose is.
Yeah.
It's huge for motivation, especially in society.
You're dropping it, man.
I think dropping it not in a bad way.
I don't know.
But like, I feel like we kind of touched on this and as, but as you've kind of been, even
as you talk about how you understand purpose, how your purpose right now, how your purpose
is through the everyday mundane.
What would you say the greatest lessons you've learned about purpose through that mundane?
And I have here written about like a definite purpose, but we already kind of touched on
that.
So like, what have I learned through my purpose so far?
Yeah.
I think it's for me, it's a lot of the little things that add up to a lot.
Like you could do a little, you could do a little action for someone, whether it's listening
to them when they're frustrated and just being that grace that that God has and wants to
show people and seeing what that can do on the other end.
Because a lot of time it's that mustard seed that we need to plant and then it grows into
that big tree.
Yeah.
And it's not always a big action like I saved 50 billion people this one day with my groundbreaking
message.
Like no, it's those things that matter to people and it's that that gives them a little
bit of Jesus.
It's those little actions.
Yeah.
Like for, I can give you a little example that I really liked.
It was, so Sean touched on this a little bit.
I do work for a restaurant chain.
And in part of that I go out to other stores and open them.
And I was going to this store, it was in Arkansas, Little Rock, Arkansas.
And I was teaching in a position that I wasn't comfortable in.
And I knew that I could learn the material, but it was all about the people that were
there that I had to grow.
And there was, I want to say that it was this girl probably like early high school age that
was starting and she was, there was a lot of stuff going on in her life.
And all I did was listen in that moment because there was a lot of stuff that she just needed
to get off her chest.
And at the very end of my moment there, she was a whole new person.
She was, because she came in and she was honestly quite rude to a lot of people.
And in the end she was helping out everybody.
And it's those little things like, and I'm not saying this to like say I did a huge thing.
All I did was listen.
And that can be a lot for a lot of people.
Those little things, whether it's like, you know, your grandma's in the area and she can't
go to the grocery store to pick up something.
You just go over and buy her a cobb of corn or whatever.
It's those little things that make huge results over time.
That's what I've learned.
It's not always one big action that like pushes you forward.
It's those little, those little increments.
No, man, that's so powerful.
I was thinking when you said that, it made me think about Daniel in the Bible.
Daniel, is it the lions though?
Yes, that same Daniel.
Okay, I want to hear the correlation.
Okay, so like it's the little things, right?
Daniel would be offered food from the king.
Daniel would do anything that he was supposed to do.
And it was just small.
Like he would always pray.
He would always fast.
He would always do these small little things.
So it just built up for when he had to face a big thing like getting thrown into the lions
then he was already doing the mundane things the Lord had already called him to do.
So it was easy for him to be who he was supposed to be.
Like the purpose, I felt like God had a purpose on Daniel was to show steadfastness, to show
solitary.
I mean like solitude.
Solidarity?
Yes, solidarity.
And the show that like an unbreakable, if I would say like, how would it be like solid,
like a person who's on, what's it called?
A person who would be, who doesn't change.
I'm trying to think of it in a good way.
Unshaking?
I can't think of the word.
But yeah, that's what it made me think of.
It's the small characteristics that like, that God has you for doing your purpose, like
small things and just keep doing the small things.
And so when the big thing comes, you're already used to it because you've been doing the small
things for so long.
I think that's good.
That made me think of like, if you do something so much, even if it wasn't mundane before,
you can make it mundane.
And mundane sounds like it's not meaningful, but really what I think what we're meaning
when we say mundane is you make it a habit.
Yes, that's where discipline, a habit.
And like you make it a habit, like something that maybe you weren't doing before, but you
do this one thing, like you make being like helping your grandma out a habit, or just
helping people out in general a habit.
And like, you make that response that you have to people like for you, like you make
that response, that response you have towards people when they're in need.
The response can be, oh, how can I help?
And that in itself is a habit.
And like that is a seemingly mundane, like just like a thought process.
But it's something you have to instantiate.
It's something that you have to practice, and something that doesn't just happen.
And it's something that like you're saying over time, it's something that grows in you.
And like the more you do something like, the more you help out, the more you help other
people, the easier it will be every single time.
And this, using that example, the more you help other people, the more potential they
have to grow, because you're helping take things off of their plate, or helping them
or putting or helping them with the things that they have on their plate.
Like there's, you can take, you know, Andrew, I forgot.
Oh yeah.
We, him and I go back and forth with like the joke and the meme about Jordan Peterson,
he goes clean your room.
And the reason he says that a lot is because like you make the habit of cleaning your room.
And it's like, I've heard it from other people before, like even just making your bed every
morning, it's that, it's that thought, it's that you make the habit of making your bed
every single morning, because that's the one, that that's something you've accomplished
every single day.
Yeah.
That comes from the military.
That's the first thing they teach you.
I don't know if it specifically comes from the military, but it's something they do for
sure.
Well, that's like in the beginning, like we're talking about like when the first like thing
in army was, it was start off making your bed because it's a win.
It's a win.
So like you, you want to start your day with wins.
Like so your mind gets ready to be like, okay, we started today off with a win.
All right, what else we're going to do?
We're going to accomplish more and we're going to accomplish more.
And it's like, it's a building factor.
Like they tear your, your, your, your old bad habits away.
And to build purpose, you have to have good habits.
Yeah.
Otherwise you won't be able to achieve your purpose.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And you can add that?
Habits are everything.
Yeah.
And it can take a lot to make a habit.
I think it can take a lot to break a habit, but it's in those mundane every, every day
when you're like, should I do this?
And your mind, you're like, yeah, do I want to do this?
Your mind says no.
It's listening to the first option.
You might not always do it, but that's what's going to build the habits that you need.
Yeah.
And like how important are habits for your, for voting, for voting and working towards
your purpose?
Um, habits are what set you up for success there.
The groundwork, I would say a hundred percent to build, to get to your purpose, you got
to have the right setup.
And that's how it comes from habits.
How are you going into the day?
How are you looking at the day?
Are you going to see someone that's grouchy and say, Oh, they're just grouchy.
You're going to say, is there a reason behind that?
Is there something I can do?
Yeah.
It may not always be that it's those opportunities that like you have to, you have to jump into
and build the habits through them.
I think I've heard people say a couple of different renditions.
There's, um, show me a habit.
I'll show you your future.
And then there's show me, show me your friends.
I'll show you your future.
And it was like, um, and all I have to do is discipline and discipline and like even
with your friends, like who you're signing yourself with on a consistent basis, nice
to have it.
And like, um, having a discipline that you have to grow.
But like, um, but yeah, it's the, if you want to build, if you have like that goal of, uh,
or even like your, believe your purpose is in the everyday.
Yeah.
Well, you still, like that, then like you said, like you said this, you're like, if
I'm everything, even if I'm going to get a glass of water, like, or what you said, a
bottle of water, whatever, a bottle of water, whatever, and going to grab that, the building
the habit of like, how, how is this for, how I'm building a habit of like gratitude or
even just like, this is for my purpose.
So like this, so how are you, I don't know, how do you intentionally do that?
Intentionally you know, whatever you like in those mundane things, even like you mentioned,
like going to grab like water or even doing something that usually isn't like something
that people would think about, uh, like being something that for God and being something
for that great, for that greater good.
Um, for me, it's realizing God isn't everything.
Yeah.
Cause ultimately for me, if God didn't exist, nothing would exist.
This mic wouldn't exist.
Yeah.
Your ears wouldn't exist.
So it's, you got to constantly reevaluate every moment you can say, God is here.
How am I going to glorify him?
Yeah.
And so if it's the water, you're drinking the water, it's blessing the water.
It's saying thank you for the water.
Thank you for nourishing me so I can do more.
Yeah.
Wow.
That's so good.
Oh man.
Well, honestly, I feel like that's a good place to like start wrapping it up and, but
we end up wrapping up every episode with a couple of questions.
Okay.
So when it comes to personal growth, development and purpose, what, uh, do you have any recommendations
of resources like podcasts, books?
Um, yeah.
Okay.
So I like John Maxwell as well.
He's a good, he's a cool dude.
Um, leader leaders.
For me, probably the most beneficial book that I've read from him and that's for me
personally is, uh, everyone communicates, few connect.
Okay.
So if you have trouble connecting with people or you're very, uh, introverted and you don't
want to talk to people that will help you a lot.
Yeah.
It like breaks down like how to go about it.
And that for sure was one of the biggest things for me.
Um, also 21 laws of leadership, always great.
If you wanted to build up your understanding of leadership and just grow that.
Yeah.
So John Maxwell, huge, um, has so many, has so many stories that were real fun fact and
they will teach you how to go about life.
Cause you don't realize how often someone's already made that mistake.
Yeah.
That's good, man.
No.
Oh, so Josh, who would you like to see on our feature episodes?
All right.
Hear me out.
Yes.
Don Marasco.
Hey, Luke Marasco would be great.
So and Jesse, you know, Jesse from rally.
Yeah.
I thought about that for sure.
Jesse.
I'm sure he has huge amounts of wisdom that he's just going to drop on everybody.
That those are really great recommendations.
We will reach out to, we have a lot of people to reach out to the second time.
Great.
I think that's awesome though.
That just shows that we're growing.
Oh, that was great.
Oh no, man.
We think again, thank you for being on, uh, Josh.
Thank you for your yes.
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