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Guys, in this episode, we're going to have Josh Gerard on and you don't want to miss

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He's such a funny guy.

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He's such a great guy.

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Like he's going to share his journey of finding purpose in the everyday moments.

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And I don't think that's something we think about too often.

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We don't think about purpose in the mundane.

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That's really what we're talking about here.

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He emphasizes the impact of small actions and habits in these everyday moments.

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He highlights the role of purpose and motivation, both personally and in society.

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We talk about relationships and how we can build those to make gratitude a habit.

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And then Josh, he offers some insightful perspectives on living a purpose driven life.

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So don't miss a second.

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Let's get into it.

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Hi guys.

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Welcome to Techly Short.

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I'm Sean.

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I'm Thomas.

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And today we've got a special guest for you in our series of Why Are You Here?

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Yeah guys.

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And before we dive in, I want to say remember to follow, share, give us five stars and let's

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dive into the episode.

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So our guest for today is Josh Gerard.

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That's me.

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That's how I say it.

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Thanks for having me guys.

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Yeah.

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This is exciting.

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Sean's been asking to have you on for a while.

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He hasn't asked me to ask you.

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He's been asking me.

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I don't know yet.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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We said this before.

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I think we said this in one of the previous episodes.

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Sean is very like dive in head first.

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I'm like, okay, I dip my toes in.

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I think he's more spontaneous.

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Let's just do it.

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I'm like, okay, I need more information.

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Yeah.

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And there was nothing against you.

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That was just like, that was like after we had more conversations and you and I had those

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conversations, I'm here when you were here in our home, I totally did not forget that

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that was a different thing that happened before you were here.

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No one else understood what I just said.

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Reference to.

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But very soft spoken most of the time.

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So yeah, appreciate you being here and saying yes and appreciate your yes.

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Yeah.

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So before we dive in, as always, as everybody is used to us doing, we start every guest

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episode with exaltations and every people, depending on the, sometimes people don't like

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it by not the listeners, but they're like, I don't like when people say good things about

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me.

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But yeah, Sean and I have our own things kind of written out.

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I've written here for those who don't know Josh, here's a quick rundown.

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He's a fantastic young, young man.

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I make myself sound old, but this is a brain dump.

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I did.

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I hope you bring these drawings to our room.

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He's a husband and an up and coming leader.

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He's an inspiration as someone who so young aspires to be the leader he knows God has

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created him to be.

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And I think like, whenever we would do our, like, we, you and I would meet up and do our

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one on one for production or just, we just meet up and we try to do like leadership just

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talks about like John going through Don Maxwell and lasted a little bit.

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But like, that's what really what like kind of got into, like kind of gave me a little

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more perspective of who you aspire to be, because you were already so into the leadership

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mindset of like, and like you said, you've been in that realm of thought for a while.

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And which was inspiring to me, because like, man, that was like, I was like, it's like,

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I just got into this.

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I just got into this.

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I was like, it was like a big rabbit hole.

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So, so yeah, guys, that's, that's who I see Josh as.

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Well, how I see Josh, I see Josh as a giver, a servant, a wonderful leader, a great husband,

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and inspiration to the youth.

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Josh and itself is, he's a leader of his company, one of the biggest companies in the world,

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especially for fast food.

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I'll let him tell you about it.

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And Josh, I guess, where are we going to give him the 60 minutes, Phil?

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Yeah, yeah, Josh.

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But no, we, we, yeah, so, she threw me off, man.

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Now we gave, yeah, we gave a little bit of introduction, but for those who don't know

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you, don't know you that well, like, who is Josh, Joshua Gerard?

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Joshua Gerard?

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He grew up in Pittsburgh, lived there his whole life.

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He was fun fact homeschooled all of his life.

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So never really ate in the school cafeteria, just in my bed with a bag of pretzels every

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But yeah, growing up, I met my high school sweetheart.

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We got married whenever I was 19.

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She was 18, pursuing after God.

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And that's where I am now, doing whatever he says to the best of my ability, because

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I am not perfect by any means.

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No, that's good, man.

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That's really good.

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I like having the different, like, we have like so many different types of people on

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the show and like different ages, different, different ages, like, and different walks

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of life.

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So it's really, it's really, again, I want to thank you for being for being honest saying

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I've been actually pretty excited for today.

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As you know, this, this series that we're in is all about purpose.

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So as you understand it, what is the purpose of purpose?

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The purpose of purpose.

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Well, for me, it's all about God and what he has for you, because ultimately, my purpose

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here is to exalt him and lift him up in any way possible.

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I may not know exactly what that purpose is all the time, but that's not always for me

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to know at every point, because he reveals to you as you go through and through life,

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what it is in different times.

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But the purpose of purpose, it's there so you're not dragging through life, I believe,

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because I've gone through a lot of my middle school years, I felt I had no purpose.

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And it was probably the darkest times of my life.

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And without that purpose, you just feel like you're wandering and every day becomes shorter

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and there's nothing really that you're looking for.

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In my experience.

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This is a quick little fun fact.

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People say your days get quicker.

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And a lot of times that happens.

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Actually, our brains will just delete information it doesn't need.

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And if you're doing the same thing every single day, your days, weeks and years are just going

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to feel like they fly by.

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That's why people are like, go out on vacation, go do those fun things.

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Or even just pursue this purpose where that's going to cause your life to change and grow

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and have all these experiences.

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Because that's what you're going to make you be able to look back on your life and just

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have more to look back on and be excited that you have gone through those things.

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And that's just something that pops in my head.

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Life actually feels like life actually feels longer whenever you're doing different things.

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And I think part of that is pursuing the pursuant purpose.

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A lot of the time, it's life spent to remember because there was a purpose behind it.

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I love what you said about dragging through life if you don't realize your purpose.

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Because I feel like a lot of people, that's what they do.

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They just, every day, same.

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They're not really centered anywhere, not really going anywhere.

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And for those people, I would love to say that you guys have a purpose, so wake up and

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take notes because this is about to be a really good episode.

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And Josh, why would you say, what is the importance of purpose?

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The importance of purpose.

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Yeah, it goes back to that, not only does it make you feel productive and it fills your

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time, but there's reward through that purpose.

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So if you're going on life with no purpose, what are you receiving for everything you

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haven't done?

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Yeah, man, that's really good, actually.

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Man, I was thinking of like, I can't remember all of them, but John Maxwell has his three

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Oh, he does.

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I forget what they are, but- Runs reward.

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I know that.

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And it's, what are the things that you do that give you that greatest return?

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And investing has that- ROI.

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ROI.

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And that's my mind a lot of the time, it's like, what is the ROI of the situation?

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And a lot of the time, if there's not a return of me investing time, then it's not worth

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doing.

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And you can take that however you want to take that.

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But I mean, how do you see that return on investment?

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Not to benefit, but you return on the investment, you invest your time.

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And you get the benefit of, like, you invest time, you invest your money, but you also

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invest time in other people.

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And it's like the return on the investment could be the growth in them.

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It's not just for you.

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And I think we talked about this before, your purpose isn't just for you either.

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Yeah, it's always bigger than you.

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Always.

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If it's truly a purpose, it will be.

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To help serve others, to help others.

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If your purpose is about you, there's always a bigger purpose you can take on.

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you really struggled with your purpose.

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And you said it was the darkest years of your life.

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Can you give a little bit more context into that?

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So in my middle school to early high school years, I had a lot of anxiety and depression.

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And I feel like everybody has those waves.

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But for me, it really tied into my self-worth.

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I didn't feel like I had worth, therefore how could I give to a purpose?

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And so I never had a purpose that whole time.

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Well, I had a purpose, but I never felt a purpose.

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I never strived for a purpose in those moments.

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And it led me to a point of lack until I had to wake up and God came in and knocked down

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my doors and said, hey, it's time to wake up.

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I have a purpose for you.

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I love you.

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I care for you.

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You do have worth.

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It's something I have for you.

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That's good.

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That's so good.

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This is one of Sean's questions that I want to ask.

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Do you have a question you want to ask before I get that?

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I really wanted to ask one of your questions.

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No, no, no.

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By all means.

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Since you said that and you started, God showed you that you do have a purpose, what do you

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believe your purpose is?

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For me, everybody sort of has a different purpose.

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And it's one thing important to know.

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You may not always get this coming down from God moment saying you will be this, you will

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be this, and you'll do this.

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For me, it is absolutely nothing like that.

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It is in every moment that I think of God, I need to represent Him to the best of my

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ability.

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Whether I'm going to the fridge to just grab a bottle of water, every action I have needs

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to tie back to God.

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Did I get this water?

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Where did I get this water from?

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I need to thank Him for this.

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If I'm going out to the grocery store, I should never be swearing up a storm or beating up

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an old lady for anything.

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In every action I have, that's what I believe I need to, as part of my purpose, is to represent

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God.

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And that's through all the relationships I have as well with my wife.

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Yes, a marriage is a great thing for you and another person, but ultimately for me it's

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to represent God through that relationship.

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So, later down the line, once me and my wife have been married for years, we can give better

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advice to other people going forward about how you can go through life efficiently and

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respecting God and giving honor to Him through everything.

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That's so good.

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And everything that I have to give it to God and represent Him through it.

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I don't necessarily have a specific thing like I'm going to be a pastor one day.

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Because there are people that are meant for that, like Mr. Sean over here.

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He's got that purpose.

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For me, it's in the mundane in every moment.

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That I need to reevaluate everything I do at all times.

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Man, that is so good.

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The only take I've ever heard like that is Kendall.

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Kendall has the same way of taking about purpose.

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When you dive deep, it's like God gives me a purpose anywhere I'm at.

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God gives me a purpose and I love that.

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Because for me, starting off, I always thought that purpose was essentially your calling.

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So, I thought to myself that, wow, this is incredible.

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I love to hear you guys' take on it.

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I really do.

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It's really good.

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Yeah, for sure.

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Yeah.

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Dude, one thing I want to say, I think I said this on Kendall's episode too.

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I really, Sean said I enjoy hearing other people's perspectives.

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That's why we have guest speakers on so other people can hear it too.

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Because Sean and I can only say so much.

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Absolutely.

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But I think there's, you said everybody has a different purpose.

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And I was curious, do you believe your purpose is in the everyday mundane or do you believe

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that there's an event you're going to one day have a moment where you're like, this

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one particular thing, everything I feed, everything that is in the mundane feeds into this one

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particular purpose that I'm pursuing or that it's just that mundane?

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For me, it very well could change at any moment if God says, hey, you're going to become a

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teacher, a counselor, whatever it is.

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I feel like if it comes to that point, it's going to be a little bit in the future when

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I have wisdom and experience in a lot of different endeavors.

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Because I am still young.

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I'm only 20 years old.

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I only know so much about adulting.

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But I feel if that's the case, it's probably going to come to me in multiple years down

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the line so I can guide people through different situations in a godly way.

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I think there's some humbleness there.

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You are a very humble person because like, you're like, oh no.

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I say that because you acknowledge I'm young.

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I don't have this experience that I will have later.

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I know that later down the line, I'm going to be like you said with your and Emily's

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marriage, you're going to like, our marriage is young, we're young.

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And once we have more years, that's when we'll be able to give other people advice on their

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marriage, on their relationships.

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And not that you can't do that now for different aspects, but you acknowledge that there's

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still so much to learn.

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And I wanted to point that out because you said you kind of went to that a couple of

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times.

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Yeah, I love to learn.

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And currently now I'm learning another language.

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I'm trying to learn Greek so I can understand the New Testament and the Bible more in its

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original context.

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But for me, I love learning.

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Learning is just everything.

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The more knowledge you gain, the better you can 100%.

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That is so true.

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And you have to have the wisdom with it.

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Because knowledge without wisdom leads to governments collapsing and cities going down

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and everything bad in the world.

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Yeah.

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But yeah, you know, knowledge.

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I think where you and I are kind of in that same vein.

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I love learning.

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Like that's my favorite.

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Like honestly, my favorite thing to do is learn.

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And that matter, like that's why I feel like I'm a developer because that world's constantly

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changing.

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Yeah.

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And like, technology is constantly growing.

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You have to keep up with it.

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You have to keep learning.

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Are you going to be left behind?

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Yeah.

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You got to meet people where they're at and they're constantly moving forward.

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So yeah.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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That's good too.

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Okay.

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Go more into that.

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Yeah.

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You got to, yeah, if you're developing, you got to meet people where they're at because

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if you're pouring in, how are you going to pour into someone's cup if it's 20 feet across

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the room?

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You got to learn where they're at.

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Yeah.

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You don't have to know exactly what they're doing and how their life is going.

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I mean, it's great to know that.

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Oh, my alarm.

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But you have to, you got to at least meet them where you got to put in that effort to

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be near them, like to know sort of what's going on so you can pour out in that moment.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You can pour out because that's ultimately what it is as a developer is coming to someone,

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lifting them up and pushing them above you.

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Man, you took that in my hand.

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That was like, you made a connection I would have never made on my own because for me,

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I was talking about developers and my job and you're like, yeah, you're developing other

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people.

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I'm like, that was so cool.

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I'm happy that that's cool.

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Yeah, that's cool.

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Josh, you've got some wisdom for sure.

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He's shooting nonstop wisdom today.

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How do you lead others to find their purpose?

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Yeah, it goes back into that.

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You have to make a little bit of connection with people and that's a lot of where I struggled

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in my recent growth and leadership is connecting with people because naturally I'm very mechanical

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in my thinking, analytic and a lot of the time I don't think about how people are doing

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in their situation, just what people are doing in their situation, not how people are doing

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in their situation.

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So you got to try and connect with those people and understand them a little bit better and

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have them understand that you care.

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It's a very famous quote, nobody cares how much you know until you know how much you

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care.

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So you've got to show that you care and then once you have that relationship, you pour

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in whatever it is, the knowledge or wisdom that they're looking for and it can't be force

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fed to them.

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They have to at least be willing to receive it and that's where the care comes in.

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So you have to care for them so they're open to receive and they're willing to learn and

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grow and take on something new and you give them that information.

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It's not always all at once because I mean honestly if you told everything wrong with

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your life at one moment, how would you react?

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You're like, that person's a snob.

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I hate them.

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But you've got to gradually and it comes in the wisdom part that I don't have 100% yet

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because I'm still young, is knowing those moments and the timing of when you can give

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someone something, when you can give them a little fruit snack information and then

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take that.

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Oh my gosh.

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I felt like as you were speaking that you were referencing Jesus and how to get people

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to salvation because it was so deep how you were explaining it because it is like most

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of the time you do not have to straight up say, hey this, this and this, but you generally

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have to show them that you care first and then you can go into, once you have a relationship

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with them, go a little deeper and then say, okay, this is, you're going down the wrong

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path because of this and this and this.

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And it's like I think that is so deep and if a lot of other believers had that same

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philosophy in their head, I think a lot of the world would be changed because I think

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there's some people who just straight go at people which sometimes it is needed but other

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times it's not.

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Where sometimes you need to build a relationship first before you go into deep with somebody

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because sometimes you don't have that opportunity and you need to go.

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So it's very, wow, it was like eye opening as you were explaining it.

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It just related to me into salvation.

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I relate to me to John Maxwell.

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Good to know you quoted about that quote.

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I don't know if it's his quote.

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I don't think it's his.

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I think it's been around a fair long time.

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He says it a lot though.

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Yeah.

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And because one thing that I thought I remembered was whenever you're leading people and if

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you want to help other people discover their purpose, but a lot of those people, you discover

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what their goals are and you discover their goals, what their interests are and you build

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that relationship like Sean was saying.

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And then if you're able to, if you're in that position, you feed them the opportunities

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to be able to build on those interests and help them reach their goals so that they can

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pursue whatever they're wanting to pursue.

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How important is purpose to society?

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Purpose is ultimately everything.

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For society especially, I feel like a lot of us tend to have the outlook of everyone

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else is lazy, but I'm putting forward this effort.

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And that, I think a lot of that is you need to understand your purpose and once you know

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what that is, you'll have the motivation to go forward and essentially get what you have

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on your life done.

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And it's continuous.

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Yeah.

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So it's a very big part of motivation especially in society.

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It's like what John F. Kennedy said, he's like not ask what the country is doing for

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you, but what can I do for my country?

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And I'm not saying you have to be a full on patriot here, but like whatever your purpose

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is do it with excellence.

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You got to break that cycle of numbness.

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Whether that's a wake up call and going up to your best friend who you know is doing

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great things and like be like, what the heck am I doing wrong?

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Or just being like, I got to go to church, man.

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I got to figure out what it is this God purpose is.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's huge for motivation, especially in society.

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You're dropping it, man.

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I think dropping it not in a bad way.

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I don't know.

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But like, I feel like we kind of touched on this and as, but as you've kind of been, even

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as you talk about how you understand purpose, how your purpose right now, how your purpose

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is through the everyday mundane.

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What would you say the greatest lessons you've learned about purpose through that mundane?

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And I have here written about like a definite purpose, but we already kind of touched on

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that.

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So like, what have I learned through my purpose so far?

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Yeah.

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I think it's for me, it's a lot of the little things that add up to a lot.

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Like you could do a little, you could do a little action for someone, whether it's listening

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to them when they're frustrated and just being that grace that that God has and wants to

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show people and seeing what that can do on the other end.

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Because a lot of time it's that mustard seed that we need to plant and then it grows into

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that big tree.

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Yeah.

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And it's not always a big action like I saved 50 billion people this one day with my groundbreaking

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message.

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Like no, it's those things that matter to people and it's that that gives them a little

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bit of Jesus.

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It's those little actions.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Like for, I can give you a little example that I really liked.

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It was, so Sean touched on this a little bit.

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I do work for a restaurant chain.

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And in part of that I go out to other stores and open them.

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And I was going to this store, it was in Arkansas, Little Rock, Arkansas.

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And I was teaching in a position that I wasn't comfortable in.

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And I knew that I could learn the material, but it was all about the people that were

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there that I had to grow.

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And there was, I want to say that it was this girl probably like early high school age that

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was starting and she was, there was a lot of stuff going on in her life.

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And all I did was listen in that moment because there was a lot of stuff that she just needed

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to get off her chest.

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And at the very end of my moment there, she was a whole new person.

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She was, because she came in and she was honestly quite rude to a lot of people.

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And in the end she was helping out everybody.

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And it's those little things like, and I'm not saying this to like say I did a huge thing.

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All I did was listen.

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And that can be a lot for a lot of people.

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Those little things, whether it's like, you know, your grandma's in the area and she can't

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go to the grocery store to pick up something.

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You just go over and buy her a cobb of corn or whatever.

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It's those little things that make huge results over time.

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That's what I've learned.

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It's not always one big action that like pushes you forward.

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It's those little, those little increments.

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No, man, that's so powerful.

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I was thinking when you said that, it made me think about Daniel in the Bible.

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Daniel, is it the lions though?

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Yes, that same Daniel.

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Okay, I want to hear the correlation.

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Okay, so like it's the little things, right?

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Daniel would be offered food from the king.

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Daniel would do anything that he was supposed to do.

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And it was just small.

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Like he would always pray.

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He would always fast.

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He would always do these small little things.

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So it just built up for when he had to face a big thing like getting thrown into the lions

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then he was already doing the mundane things the Lord had already called him to do.

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So it was easy for him to be who he was supposed to be.

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Like the purpose, I felt like God had a purpose on Daniel was to show steadfastness, to show

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solitary.

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I mean like solitude.

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Solidarity?

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Yes, solidarity.

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And the show that like an unbreakable, if I would say like, how would it be like solid,

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like a person who's on, what's it called?

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A person who would be, who doesn't change.

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I'm trying to think of it in a good way.

489
00:28:58,880 --> 00:28:59,880
Unshaking?

490
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,640
I can't think of the word.

491
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,120
But yeah, that's what it made me think of.

492
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:09,720
It's the small characteristics that like, that God has you for doing your purpose, like

493
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,960
small things and just keep doing the small things.

494
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,200
And so when the big thing comes, you're already used to it because you've been doing the small

495
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,240
things for so long.

496
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,240
I think that's good.

497
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:31,160
That made me think of like, if you do something so much, even if it wasn't mundane before,

498
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,920
you can make it mundane.

499
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:38,880
And mundane sounds like it's not meaningful, but really what I think what we're meaning

500
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:43,080
when we say mundane is you make it a habit.

501
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,920
Yes, that's where discipline, a habit.

502
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:50,720
And like you make it a habit, like something that maybe you weren't doing before, but you

503
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:56,920
do this one thing, like you make being like helping your grandma out a habit, or just

504
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,040
helping people out in general a habit.

505
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:07,240
And like, you make that response that you have to people like for you, like you make

506
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:13,480
that response, that response you have towards people when they're in need.

507
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,600
The response can be, oh, how can I help?

508
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,560
And that in itself is a habit.

509
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:25,000
And like that is a seemingly mundane, like just like a thought process.

510
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,240
But it's something you have to instantiate.

511
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:32,600
It's something that you have to practice, and something that doesn't just happen.

512
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:38,520
And it's something that like you're saying over time, it's something that grows in you.

513
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:44,040
And like the more you do something like, the more you help out, the more you help other

514
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:48,040
people, the easier it will be every single time.

515
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:53,600
And this, using that example, the more you help other people, the more potential they

516
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:58,800
have to grow, because you're helping take things off of their plate, or helping them

517
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:03,400
or putting or helping them with the things that they have on their plate.

518
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:09,880
Like there's, you can take, you know, Andrew, I forgot.

519
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:10,880
Oh yeah.

520
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:16,680
We, him and I go back and forth with like the joke and the meme about Jordan Peterson,

521
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,720
he goes clean your room.

522
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:24,040
And the reason he says that a lot is because like you make the habit of cleaning your room.

523
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:28,280
And it's like, I've heard it from other people before, like even just making your bed every

524
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,720
morning, it's that, it's that thought, it's that you make the habit of making your bed

525
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,400
every single morning, because that's the one, that that's something you've accomplished

526
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:36,400
every single day.

527
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:37,400
Yeah.

528
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:38,400
That comes from the military.

529
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,400
That's the first thing they teach you.

530
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,600
I don't know if it specifically comes from the military, but it's something they do for

531
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:45,600
sure.

532
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,760
Well, that's like in the beginning, like we're talking about like when the first like thing

533
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:54,800
in army was, it was start off making your bed because it's a win.

534
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:55,800
It's a win.

535
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,120
So like you, you want to start your day with wins.

536
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,840
Like so your mind gets ready to be like, okay, we started today off with a win.

537
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,160
All right, what else we're going to do?

538
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,160
We're going to accomplish more and we're going to accomplish more.

539
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,160
And it's like, it's a building factor.

540
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,880
Like they tear your, your, your, your old bad habits away.

541
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,800
And to build purpose, you have to have good habits.

542
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:17,800
Yeah.

543
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,280
Otherwise you won't be able to achieve your purpose.

544
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:21,280
Absolutely.

545
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:22,280
Yeah.

546
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,280
And you can add that?

547
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:26,280
Habits are everything.

548
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:27,280
Yeah.

549
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,400
And it can take a lot to make a habit.

550
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:34,560
I think it can take a lot to break a habit, but it's in those mundane every, every day

551
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,080
when you're like, should I do this?

552
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,120
And your mind, you're like, yeah, do I want to do this?

553
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,600
Your mind says no.

554
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,000
It's listening to the first option.

555
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,320
You might not always do it, but that's what's going to build the habits that you need.

556
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,320
Yeah.

557
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:53,280
And like how important are habits for your, for voting, for voting and working towards

558
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:54,280
your purpose?

559
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,400
Um, habits are what set you up for success there.

560
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:02,760
The groundwork, I would say a hundred percent to build, to get to your purpose, you got

561
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:03,760
to have the right setup.

562
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,040
And that's how it comes from habits.

563
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,300
How are you going into the day?

564
00:33:07,300 --> 00:33:09,120
How are you looking at the day?

565
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,560
Are you going to see someone that's grouchy and say, Oh, they're just grouchy.

566
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,560
You're going to say, is there a reason behind that?

567
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,160
Is there something I can do?

568
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,160
Yeah.

569
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:23,880
It may not always be that it's those opportunities that like you have to, you have to jump into

570
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,360
and build the habits through them.

571
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,600
I think I've heard people say a couple of different renditions.

572
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,800
There's, um, show me a habit.

573
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,880
I'll show you your future.

574
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,840
And then there's show me, show me your friends.

575
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:36,840
I'll show you your future.

576
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:43,040
And it was like, um, and all I have to do is discipline and discipline and like even

577
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,320
with your friends, like who you're signing yourself with on a consistent basis, nice

578
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:47,320
to have it.

579
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,080
And like, um, having a discipline that you have to grow.

580
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:57,000
But like, um, but yeah, it's the, if you want to build, if you have like that goal of, uh,

581
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,760
or even like your, believe your purpose is in the everyday.

582
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:00,760
Yeah.

583
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,960
Well, you still, like that, then like you said, like you said this, you're like, if

584
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:10,480
I'm everything, even if I'm going to get a glass of water, like, or what you said, a

585
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:16,800
bottle of water, whatever, a bottle of water, whatever, and going to grab that, the building

586
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:24,800
the habit of like, how, how is this for, how I'm building a habit of like gratitude or

587
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,280
even just like, this is for my purpose.

588
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,960
So like this, so how are you, I don't know, how do you intentionally do that?

589
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,600
Intentionally you know, whatever you like in those mundane things, even like you mentioned,

590
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,840
like going to grab like water or even doing something that usually isn't like something

591
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:42,360
that people would think about, uh, like being something that for God and being something

592
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,640
for that great, for that greater good.

593
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,000
Um, for me, it's realizing God isn't everything.

594
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,000
Yeah.

595
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,960
Cause ultimately for me, if God didn't exist, nothing would exist.

596
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:53,960
This mic wouldn't exist.

597
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:54,960
Yeah.

598
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,120
Your ears wouldn't exist.

599
00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:03,480
So it's, you got to constantly reevaluate every moment you can say, God is here.

600
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:04,880
How am I going to glorify him?

601
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:05,880
Yeah.

602
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,840
And so if it's the water, you're drinking the water, it's blessing the water.

603
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,240
It's saying thank you for the water.

604
00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:12,120
Thank you for nourishing me so I can do more.

605
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,120
Yeah.

606
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,120
Wow.

607
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,120
That's so good.

608
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,120
Oh man.

609
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:24,200
Well, honestly, I feel like that's a good place to like start wrapping it up and, but

610
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:28,360
we end up wrapping up every episode with a couple of questions.

611
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:29,360
Okay.

612
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:36,280
So when it comes to personal growth, development and purpose, what, uh, do you have any recommendations

613
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,960
of resources like podcasts, books?

614
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:39,960
Um, yeah.

615
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:40,960
Okay.

616
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,920
So I like John Maxwell as well.

617
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,960
He's a good, he's a cool dude.

618
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,440
Um, leader leaders.

619
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:53,040
For me, probably the most beneficial book that I've read from him and that's for me

620
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,680
personally is, uh, everyone communicates, few connect.

621
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:57,680
Okay.

622
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:02,440
So if you have trouble connecting with people or you're very, uh, introverted and you don't

623
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,760
want to talk to people that will help you a lot.

624
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:05,760
Yeah.

625
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:10,240
It like breaks down like how to go about it.

626
00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:13,320
And that for sure was one of the biggest things for me.

627
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,280
Um, also 21 laws of leadership, always great.

628
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:23,240
If you wanted to build up your understanding of leadership and just grow that.

629
00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:24,240
Yeah.

630
00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:31,440
So John Maxwell, huge, um, has so many, has so many stories that were real fun fact and

631
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,760
they will teach you how to go about life.

632
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,960
Cause you don't realize how often someone's already made that mistake.

633
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:37,960
Yeah.

634
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,160
That's good, man.

635
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,160
No.

636
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:46,000
Oh, so Josh, who would you like to see on our feature episodes?

637
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,000
All right.

638
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,000
Hear me out.

639
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,000
Yes.

640
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,000
Don Marasco.

641
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,520
Hey, Luke Marasco would be great.

642
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,680
So and Jesse, you know, Jesse from rally.

643
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:58,680
Yeah.

644
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,080
I thought about that for sure.

645
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,080
Jesse.

646
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:05,200
I'm sure he has huge amounts of wisdom that he's just going to drop on everybody.

647
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,320
That those are really great recommendations.

648
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:11,960
We will reach out to, we have a lot of people to reach out to the second time.

649
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:12,960
Great.

650
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,440
I think that's awesome though.

651
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:15,960
That just shows that we're growing.

652
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:16,960
Oh, that was great.

653
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:17,960
Oh no, man.

654
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,960
We think again, thank you for being on, uh, Josh.

655
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,840
Thank you for your yes.

656
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:24,840
Absolutely.

657
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:29,040
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658
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:38,720
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659
00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:41,360
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660
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:42,360
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661
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662
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:44,360
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663
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:45,360
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664
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:46,360
See you next time, guys.

665
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:47,360
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666
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667
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668
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669
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670
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671
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