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How's it going guys? Thomas here. In this episode, we're going to dive deeper into

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our conversation with Quentin Booth here in part 2. And from career shifts to faith-driven

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decisions, Q shares insightful perspectives on finding one's calling. We're going to

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talk about discovering how trusting in God's plan can lead to unexpected paths filled with

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meaning and service to others. Guys, if you liked part 1, get ready for part 2 and take

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some notes. We'll see you in there.

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How would you teach others where to find their purpose?

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By no means am I telling the world to quit their jobs. I'm not saying that.

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I've seen a couple of like, yeah, I think Steve and Ferdick have said it once and maybe

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like TD Jakes, but they go on there like, I'm not telling you to quit your job. Don't

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go tomorrow and say, my pastor said I can be relieved of this job. But I will say what

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I know about God is he's not a God of confusion. He's not a God of like suffering. Right? If

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you feel as though you are not growing, you're not pouring in, you're not being poured into

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and like you have taken those steps to try to work towards that. Maybe that's not what's

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for you. Maybe God does have something else different from you. But also you have to know

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where to like place your roots on and be faithful in the journey because it's not easy. We could

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look at anyone in the Bible and there's very few who were just like, oh no, they were blessed

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from the moment they were born until the moment they moved on. The ones, these stories that

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we read, they go through some very harsh, very, you know, most of the time life taking

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trials and tribulations. I'm not telling you that you also have to sit in this job or this

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life situation where it's just life taking because God does have something better for

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you. So what I would tell someone who has a hard time finding it or has a hard time

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staying faithful in it is that God knows you, right? We hear this all the time. He knows

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the amount of hairs on your head. He knows what's in your heart. Be honest with yourself.

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If you're growing here, if you feel as though you're being poured into, you feel as though

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that you are being cultivated a leader or you're cultivating leaders. This is what I

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tell my program managers all the time. If you're not cultivating a leader, if you're not cultivating

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leadership, what are you doing? We're supposed to be making leaders. We're not here to just

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manage and then do it all ourselves. We want people to be empowered, to be inspired and

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take like, what I would tell you guys is whatever Tom loves to do, whatever Sean loves to do,

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find out how you can get out of the way for God, but use those skills to expand his kingdom.

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Wherever that leads you is probably where you're supposed to be, but it's not always fun. It's

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not always sunshines and rainbows. Today, there was like a 30 to 40 kid fight outside

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of our church and I found myself out there again trying to break up a fight and picking

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kids off of each other. I'm like, I left law enforcement. What am I doing out here? Some

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days I have to correct people and some days I get corrected. It's not every day is

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this great, amazing time at work, but when you're working for God, it's different. I

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would say that if you're a Christian and you're trying to figure out what your purpose is,

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this is I guess also because I was front of house at church too, is you serve. You find

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a way to expand the kingdom and he will find a way to use you because that prodigal son

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story he's waiting for you. There is an issue in one of the neighborhoods. I won't speak

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to it, but every neighborhood has their challenges. We had a group of employees who were really

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down trodden on how are we going to fix this? How can we fix this? There's people who are

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hurting, people are losing their homes, there's no funding coming in. I'm sitting there and

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I'm trying to meditate and Father Paul is trying to do his thing. He's an amazing speaker.

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I will shout him out here all day, every day. He is my boss, yes. He's not paying me to

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say this, but Father Paul, you too, amazing speaker. He's trying to say something and

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God put it on my heart and you guys will probably know it, but I was led to Isaiah 6, 8. When

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we think about purpose, for me, it was so clear when he said that. Do you guys mind

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if I read it because I won't be able to do it justice. Let me find it real quick. I already

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had it up actually. Isaiah 6, 8 says, then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, whom

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shall I send and who will go for us? I said, here I am, send me. I heard that and it is

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so true. Whether you guys are doing a podcast to get the word out, to spread the kingdom,

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to spread the glory of God, whether you are a garbage man helping clean up your community,

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whether you are a custodian helping clean the church or you are the CEO trying to run

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a non-profit, also a church at the same time or a director or a police officer or a nurse,

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as long as we have the heart as God, okay, if you call me, I will go. Then that's your

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purpose because some of the people who may watch this are in college and they are like,

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well, this doesn't refer to me. Yes, it does. He's calling you. Right now you are called

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to educate yourself. You are called to build community. You are called to go reach out

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to that one kid that you always see that no one talks to and go be the light of the world,

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go be the salt of the earth. We are called in every aspect and you have to, in its heart,

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you have to be obedient and want to have that almost evangelistic aspect of it. Like, okay,

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I won't have to sit here and talk scripture with you, but I can sit here and be the kind

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heart that God has made me to be. I can be the Christian that God's made me to be. So

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that was my answer. It's a long-winded one, but I think it's very true when you just have

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a heart of, Lord, send me, then it doesn't matter what it looks like.

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That's so good because that's all I've been like the verse of the year for me.

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Yesterday? Is he yesterday? Yeah. What verse did she talk about? Wasn't that the...did

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she use that same verse? I was there. You were there yesterday. I forgot. I was there.

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But no, yesterday, I don't remember. She gave the word at Inspired Collective yesterday.

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And if it wasn't that same verse, it was referencing it. And it was a reference to that verse.

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And she was like, yeah, God's asking a question. If God's going to ask you a question, are

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you going to answer like that? He's going down being like, I know we send questions

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at him all the time, but in that instance, he's calling out and asking and you're like,

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here I am. Here I am. Send me for whatever you're calling me to do. Not you asking the

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question and God would...you can't ask this question, but it's not like asking a question

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to God, like what do you want me to do? Answering that, it's called by saying, just send me

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you wherever to do whatever you want me to do. And like you said, don't allow me to get

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in my own way.

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Yeah, that's so good. And I've also been learning relationship wise. I know this has nothing

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to do with purpose, but I think it could. Having that same heart changes the way you

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see your relationship as well. I've had the blessing to be able to have a Christian couples

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counselor with many, and we pray into every single one. But he also emphasizes having

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that heart, right? In the Lord's prayer, I heard it again today, but forgive me for my

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trespasses as I forgive those who trespass against me. And that's also a calling. That's

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also a purpose. We're called to love, love God, love others. And that same mindset you're

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talking about, Tom, the same Isaiah scripture, it can go into so many different aspects if

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you just have that. We're called to forgive, we're called to love, we're called to serve,

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we're called to get out of our own way and just let God do his thing. And like I said,

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when I heard that, it was so clear. And then I'm sitting here, I read it and I'm looking

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up and one of my employees is crying. I'm like, oh, okay, God, I see you.

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So can I ask you, this is a question that I just thought, I think you kind of ran through

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all the questions I had and now I have something, we talked about this before with something

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John Maxwell said in one of his podcast episodes is that the way he sees purpose is that there's

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a couple of things in my mind right now, but he said that your purpose is the intersection

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point essentially between what you're passionate about and what you're good at.

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That's good.

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And then he goes forward to say a calling is a purpose with a divine touch, which I

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just had to throw that in there because it's great. And for me, I didn't really understand

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what I was passionate about. And I'm going to talk about this briefly because we've talked

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about it before, but I had this click, something just clicked and it was about something that

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I had no idea that I was ever going to be passionate about, I guess, with me wanting

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to be a life coach. And did you have a moment like that where something just clicked for

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you or was it more of a gradual?

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Yes and no. I guess because my story is fairly unique. There was one day as a patrol officer

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where it kind of clicked and that everything wasn't just so black and white, if you will,

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that people's lives are affected. And it started clicking that I always had a heart for people,

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not a heart for, don't be wrong, I liked action. I used to keep this video of my very

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first high speed chase and it's awesome, but it clicks whenever I'm serving people and

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having a heart for people and caring about them. And so it would be in that way. It clicks

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when you find yourself and you have a word for somebody at the church or during service

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and you want to go talk to them or you find yourself just being a listening ear. So for

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me, and don't get me wrong, I believe that I'm probably fairly dramatic, but it clicks

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for me when I'm serving people. Life for me doesn't make sense unless I'm helping someone.

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That's great.

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I honestly think that's amazing. I think you personally, for anybody going out there, for

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all the listeners, your calling will always be to serve being people. I feel that you

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can't have a calling without that. So it will be serving people and I think it will have,

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sometimes, it will have, I want to say, sometimes, it's not more than like it's a lot of love,

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a thing that you love that you feel fulfilled when you do while you're helping others. That's

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how you know that's your calling, that's your purpose.

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Yeah, that's beautiful. I would only piggyback that saying absolutely. And it doesn't have

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to be you're out there being a firefighter or a cop or doing that. Oh crap, I'm going

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to forget the Bible character. Help me out here. But I believe it's Daniel, but everything

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that he did, he did it with an excellence, right? I hope that's him. And that's how

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you can care for people too, right? You're talking about teachers, you're talking about

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even, I even think about flight attendants in this aspect because no one really would

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just be like, oh, I want to go help people, let me be a flight attendant. They're just

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probably like, I want to see the world. But in the same way, there's so many things that

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they can do there just to keep people comfortable, to keep them calm. And it's still a serving,

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right? And so I say that not to talk down on that profession, but say that you can do

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excellence anywhere. As you said, you can love someone in anything. So that is beautiful.

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That actually, I don't know how to speak to that. With my job currently, I'm currently

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a web and mobile app developer. And within the last maybe a few, I would say maybe the

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last four months, four or five months, I've had a whole mindset shift. For the last few

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years I've been trying to leave and I know my boss, I'm pretty sure my boss watches this.

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He kind of called me out on something I've said in the previous episode. But the, I was

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trying to leave for years and my mind shifted from like, this is somewhere I'm only going

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to be temporarily. And so right now it's just a means to an end to, even though I don't

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see myself being here forever, I'm still here to serve people. And like the apps I build

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are making, it's still making other people's lives easier. It's like, it's making other

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people's lives, that your job's easier for the people that work for the same company

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I work for. And even what we're doing right now, we're re-implementing a whole new, it's

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building a whole new website that it's like lightning fast in comparison to like our past

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one. And it's all about, I feel like if you have that mindset in any job of like, this

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isn't just for a paycheck. This is because I'm doing this and what I'm doing today is

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going to make somebody else's day better. And I used to talk down to like McDonald's

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workers all the time, especially when I was younger. But like, you're making people's

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lives better by flipping burgers and like getting the kids their happy meal, even if

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you're just on the line.

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Exactly. And you know, I think the world saw that whenever the world shut down. And you

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know, first they said everybody, you know, there's only certain level of essential workers.

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And then you know, what, like four weeks later, they're like, okay, fast food workers are

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essential workers. And I think it's because even the world had a chance to, my cats are

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fighting sorry. The world had a chance to take a step back and really, you know, look

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at themselves and kind of look at, you know, how do we operate and you know, our everything

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got shut down. And I think God really showed a lot of people in their hearts, where are

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they at, you know, a lot of people want to work from home now. And like, that's the thing

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and companies are juggling that. And I'm neither here or there on it. I understand the the

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best of both. But something Father Paul actually said the other day, there was like a winter

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storm what like three weeks ago, guys, like it was pretty bad. City shut down again, I

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have all these program managers calling like, Hey, are we are we not coming in working from

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home, right? And I call him he was away on a business trip. And he goes, he just says,

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I understand that there's snow on the ground that some people may not make it in. I told

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him I was like, well, I'm coming in because I live like three minutes from there. Right.

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And he goes, Okay, great. And I was like, well, so like, what's your position on it?

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He goes, if we are not there, who will serve the people? And you like even that I'm just

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like, let me go put my boots on. Right. It's like, exactly. You know, it's just a drop

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in the center. You know, it's not even just but it's a drop in center. We do give meals

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to people every day. And we have this thing called the backpack feeding program that you

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know, they do amazing things down there. They provide 23 different schools, over 12,000

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different bags of food that they give out like per week. And so if we close, that's

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12,000 different students who kick, you know, won't bring being bringing home food for their

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families that week, right. And when I put it in perspective like that, we have to it

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doesn't matter what you do, you know, and those people could be working in that room

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setting like all I do is take, you know, non perishables and put it in a plastic bag and

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then like that's my job. But in that same week, a family is going to be eating that

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they're going to be, you know, using that to nourish themselves. And the same thing

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with like McDonald's, they may see it as you know, this is just a job is not a career.

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I'm here. But as you said, Tom, like, you are helping people. And to be honest with

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you, I'll put this shameless plugin I didn't know about the mobile apps and the different

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offers that like, you're gonna go to McDonald's, you need to go on the app because it's like

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McDonald's has the best of all time. Yeah, like got like a whole free meal yesterday.

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I was like, what? To, um, to Big Macs or like a quarter pounder or two quarter pounders

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for five bucks. Yeah. Price. That's a whole win. Yeah. Yeah. And so not for my body, but

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for the yeah, but you got to get it how you can get it sometimes. And so to just to just

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to wrap on what I'm saying, honestly, is this season this this year for me, even with all

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of the craziness that's happened for all of us in our journeys of faith, and what building

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are we going to be, you know, hearing the Word of God? Purpose is what's coming out

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of that. Because what has changed is who's serving where? What has changed is people

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who don't who didn't normally, you know, have a hand in how can they do the ministry this

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way? How can they do things? The purpose, I believe is that one God has his hand on

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all everyone in that. But we are finding a new journey, a new calling in a new way that

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we can bring the kingdom, right? If everybody's still I still believe that everyone's heart

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is helping other people have relationship with Jesus have a way that they can, like

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foster this environment where they can have a healthy home with him. And so now we all

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have this new calling this new way, and this new purpose really to find a way to do that.

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I've been hearing so many different like ideas like, Oh, I can do this, I can do this. I

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was like, where was this like two months ago, but it's a different fire. It's a different

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purpose. And so but it's still still that the mission is still the same, right? Different

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purpose, different calling, but the mission is still the same. And so for anyone who has

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been in that transition, and it has been hard, it has been hard, you know, just know that

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our mission is still the same doesn't matter what you who you call it, where you're going,

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where you're calling yourself, we're still disciples, and we're meant to go make more

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disciples. Amen. My shameless plug for that. I love that. That's the I feel like the mission

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will always be my purpose. And I feel like all of our purpose is to love God, love people,

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teach people love God. That will always be the purpose. That's really good. Yeah. All

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my questions were answered already by a queue. You know, sorry, I had a it's it's such a

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great topic to really talk about. I'm so just blessed that you guys have me here. But when

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you talk about purpose, like I said, it's been a journey for me. And so it's really

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just every day trying to figure that out and just trying to just be a vessel. And that's

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where you can start. And that's where you end at. And hopefully, you know, you're being

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obedient to what God is calling you for. But then also, I try to pray for myself like,

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God, let me be sensitive to how you're working. Right. So I may not know where the end is,

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but I'm able to see how he's he's operating to and it helps. Honestly, my beautiful fiancee

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just walked in. Hello. Yeah, I just thought Isaiah 6, 8, that you brought that up was

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crazy because that was like the verse I got for this year. Right. And it's been a powerful

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verse. And then you to bring it up on the day of today where pretty much the army was

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confirmed today. Right. So thank you. That's amazing. Waiting on the paperwork. But yeah,

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that was Isaiah 6, 8, which is crazy because I literally like I made a video like early

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on last year and then this year again, I'm talking about it because I thought it was

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so important. It was Isaiah 6, 8 yesterday. And it's confirmation. It was just confirmation.

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So I looked it up. That's crazy. Well, sir, your journey is just beginning. I know you're

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you know, I'm going to be praying for you and you're going to get to serve this country.

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Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, that's a wow. Yeah. Well, I feel like that's a great place

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to wrap it up. But I got you. Thank you for being. Thank you for coming out. Thank you

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for asking to be on. Yeah, Q, you're amazing. You're the first person we love that you're

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the first for the ask to ever be on. It's funny because the episode that dropped yesterday

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to this week, Tuesday or a couple of days ago, I was saying like, oh, whenever some

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people start asking me on the show, like that will cost that bridge when we get to it. I

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don't know how we're going to handle that. And then you just want Hey, can I be on the

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show? I guess. Well, trust me, guys, it's definitely a blessing. And and in that, you

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guys actually helped me find a reason having a purpose to spend intentional time with God

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and really meditate on what this topic is. So in a way, honestly, you minister to me

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through that. So again, truly appreciate it. And I know that this is going to go many places

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and hopefully what you guys are doing, you know, you're getting out of your own ways

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and being vessels for God and being obedient and allow him to work through your your podcast.

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So thank you. Man, we love you, Q. We'll have you back on here sometime. And there is there

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is sorry, I asked a couple of questions at the end and I completely forgot because we

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were just like we're just going to but the last couple of the two ending questions one,

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if you have any resources that people can go to, whether it's when it pertains to purpose,

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pertaining to personal growth, what would you typically recommend? Well, I like to be

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transparent and I would tell I would love to tell you that I'm reading so many books

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about it. I'm not. The last books I read was Crazy Faith from Mike Todd. It's pretty good.

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I was also reading a book on purpose from T.D. Jakes, which is also pretty good. But

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I will start there. But honestly, go to the word. That's you know, that's the answer.

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I think through all of that, if anyone could hear that is just a leap of faith and a trust

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in God, go to the word, continue to be there to hear sermons on it. And it's going to come

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as long as you're just trying to get out of your own way. That's great. Oh, who would

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you like to have next on the on the episodes on our podcast? Next on the episode? If not

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the same because she has an amazing story herself. I honestly believe that Jason, I

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think that you guys should try to get Jason Howard because, you know, he is just a wealth

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of knowledge and amazing listener. If you have amazing talker speaker, Christina Sander

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and above all, number one is key Sander right now. Yeah, he's standard. Yeah. We'll reach

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out to them again. All three of them. Okay, all right. All right. You've been taking their

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name. I was laughing. I was like, man, we've tried. All right. Okay. We're all busy. We're

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working on it. We're getting on. What's Leo's last name? Oh, Leonardo Morales. Yeah. Yeah.

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Leonardo Morales. Leonardo. He's always on the church killing eight with the guitar.

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I don't know people's names. Great guy though. I mean, honestly, any one of the people who

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are just have that servant heart at sanctuary or amplify, I'm sure they have a wealth of

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knowledge in a way that they can express how God is moving through their hearts. So is

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this Yeah, I'm excited to see the next next episode. Yeah. All right, man. Well, thank

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you. It was great. And we're going to reach out to all those three people again. And we're

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going to talk with Leo. Yeah, Leo. All right. We'll see you. All right. Have a good night.

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See you guys.

