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Hey guys, welcome to part 3 of Why Are You Here.

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In this episode, we explore the intricate world of decision making and its impact on

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finding one's purpose.

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We delve deep into the 7-step process of making decisions, from identifying the decision to

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reviewing the outcomes, and discuss how these choices can guide us towards our true calling.

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We also share insights from the book Think and Grow Rich and the wisdom of John Maxwell.

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We emphasize the importance of making purposeful decisions that not only lead us to why we

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are here, but also guide us in pursuing our calling once we have discovered it.

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Alright guys, see you in there and remember, take some notes.

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Welcome Technically Short, I'm Shawn.

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I'm Thomas.

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And today we're talking about decision making in our series of Why Are You Here.

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Yeah, so this episode, like Shawn said, it's all about decision making, making decisions.

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And we thought about this, we were kind of thinking about like, we weren't able to get

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a guess for today.

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So we were like, what can we talk about that we haven't already talked about?

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So that we don't repeat ourselves.

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And like, what's an aspect of purpose that, which is what this series is all about?

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Like what's an aspect of purpose that we can like do a little bit of a deep dive on?

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And Thomas had a decent wise decision to make.

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And honestly, I think it leads right into it.

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So I mean, we're going to go deep.

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So get your notebooks out and your pens ready because we're about to go deep.

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But alright guys, like, so what really brought it to my mind was I'm currently I mentioned

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it before you've heard it mentioned on our past episode with Pat Williams, the book Think

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and Grow Rich, and there's a whole chat the whole chapter I just finished reading was

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called decision making decisions or decision making one of the two.

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And like, so that's pretty much where all my notes are from for this episode.

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And I watched a little bit of John Maxwell, I just to kind of get us into the mood of

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purpose.

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One thing that he said that kind of I think what hit a lot of people, he said, he was

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talking about calling for calling versus a purpose.

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Yeah, he said, he goes, a calling is a purpose was a divine touch.

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Oh, I like that.

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I definitely like that.

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And I agree with that.

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And I think like, so whenever we talk, we talked about purpose on past episodes, and

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calling we're kind of using them interchangeably.

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And I think that's still okay.

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Yeah, I just really like John Maxwell's rendition of like, a calling to calling is a purpose

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a calling is a purpose.

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But there's that, like you said, there's that divine touch to it that gives it a little

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bit more direction.

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Oh, yeah.

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And I think he hits it home.

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Like, I feel like, can you really have a purpose without a calling?

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And I guess, to a certain degree, you could, but it wouldn't be when being where you wouldn't

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have that divine touch.

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Exactly.

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So Shawn, why don't you kick us off?

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You had a couple things there.

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Yeah.

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So, I'm going to lead you guys off by talking about the seven steps to decision making,

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right?

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So step one, step one is identifying the decision.

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That's the most important step.

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Step two will be gathering the information.

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Step three will be prospect of alternative, which means basically, you're going to see

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the decision you want to make, how it's going to lead you to your purpose, and look for

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another way, another decision that's backwards for it or opposite or another.

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You're looking for different routes that you could possibly achieve what you're trying

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to achieve.

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Exactly.

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And then step four would be weigh the evidence on both your alternative route or your main

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decision.

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And then I would say five would be choose the alternative that has no cost, right?

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So the one that has no cost, right?

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I thought you said cause.

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The one has no cost.

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The one where it's going to be the most beneficial for you.

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And then I would say take action and then review it.

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So I think those are seven good steps to just lead you to making the right decision.

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Decision making can be hard, but it's very important that we start off with step one

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and that's identifying the decision that you want to make.

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Decisions we're talking about today, me and Thomas, are we're talking about decisions

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that lead you to your purpose, decisions that lead you to why are you here?

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Or even not even necessarily the decisions that come after.

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After you realize what your purpose is and the decisions you make, decisions that you'll

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need to make in order to achieve the, pursue the calling that's on your life.

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There's, that's kind of like, it just kind of hit me.

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I like that we kind of stay in this purview because that is the purpose of this podcast.

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It is to give people the tools that they can use to pursue the calling that's on their

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lives.

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So I really like that we're doing this right now.

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Yeah, guys.

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So like, I want to actually touch on something that Shawn said and like you were saying, like

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whenever you're looking for the alternate routes, you're doing that because there's

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a potential that the one that you initially chose fails and then you make, and then you

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have to make an audible and if you already have those planned out ahead of time, then

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if you already have those decisions made planned out ahead of time, it makes it easier and

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it allows you to help make more prompt decisions.

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That's very wise.

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And which kind of leads me into some things I had, some things I kind of had derived from

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Thinking We Were Rich.

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Since Napoleon Hill, he talks about like the habit of decision making is like, I have here

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the habit of reaching decisions promptly and of changing these decisions slowly.

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He talks about the importance of not just making decisions, but making decisions quickly

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and promptly.

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And then, like I already said, reiterating, but making those decisions, like you're changing

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them slowly because you're sure of the decision that you made.

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And so whenever you made the decision, again, like, okay, you have to, whenever you have

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those alternate routes ahead of you, maybe hit the route, hit the point where your initial

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route fails.

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So you have to admit that it's be humble, admit that it fails and then make the decision

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to change your course.

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So that way you still lead to what you're called to do, what your decision is ultimately,

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but you still, I love that because it's like if something fails, but you're still, if it

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fails forward, it's like back to falling forward.

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That's what exactly would that be.

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Because like, yeah, you learn from that mistake, the mistakes that you made that caused that

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failure to happen.

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But we've learned before, like we said in the past, failures are learning opportunities.

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You take how you failed, you take how you failed, you learn from that mistake and you

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move forward and you make the audible of one of the alternate routes that you already decided

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that you were going to take.

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Whew!

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That's a lot, but it's good stuff.

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And the reason it says there that changing these decisions slowly is because if you're

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going, like we're going to stick with this, this can be applied into any decision, but

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we're going to stick with this one thing that you brought up, Shawn.

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Like if you're keep trying, if you're changing that decision slowly, you're making the decision

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to make, you're making, now you're making the audible to choose a different route.

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So now, but you can't keep switching routes.

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You can't like, you can't keep, you can't keep bouncing from one thing to the next because

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you're never, because you're just making lateral moves.

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You're not moving forward.

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You wouldn't be if you're always switching routes because you never get anything done.

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You necessarily would just be failing, not falling forward.

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You would just be failing in general.

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And there's another note I have here that people, I'll read exactly what I have written,

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but this can be taken in other aspects of, you can say, of success, of pursuing business,

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pursuing a calling that's on your life successfully.

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But whatever in here is people who fail to accumulate money without exception, remember

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this is from the book Think and Grow Rich, have the habit of reaching decisions if at

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all very slowly and changing these decisions quickly and often.

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I think that's 100%.

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And when it comes down to it, it's like one of the episodes we talked about a while ago,

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discipline.

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Because what that sentence clearly says is a person financially, when we're talking about

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this specific sentence, a person that doesn't have financially discipline, they're easily

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able to be shaken.

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In the Bible, it talks about the guy who pulls his house on sink and sand and when the wind

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blew, it blew.

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When the waters came, it collapsed.

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It was because it didn't have any foundation.

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And that's what's so important.

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So when it comes to decision making and why are we here, it is all about making it known

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that whatever calling, whatever purpose I have in sticking to that, you have to be,

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what's it, great or I would say solid.

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There's so many words where it means that you are just, for me, I guess I would be an

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example, I use it in arguments, controversial.

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Because in that way of saying that what you believe, you stick into it and you have to

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be that way.

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And that's why I love that sentence.

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People who are disciplined are very, I would say solid, controversial sometimes to others

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because it's not going to be able to not be influenced, I would say, by the other things.

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One thing that I want to dive into is kind of moving into a little bit of another subject

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on this, but it's about the courage in decision making.

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So Shawn, why don't you, you have a couple things going on right now.

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And you had to make some decisions.

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Why don't you talk a little bit about that?

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All right.

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So for the guys and girls who don't know, big life steps happening.

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So my purpose God has given me since I was a little kid, it would be to be a pastor,

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Now, that being said, decision making, I had to make some big decisions this year to help

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lead into that.

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I had one option of working a job and trying to build my own discipline.

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And then I had another option where the discipline will be provided for me, but so will the finances

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and mentality and the strength.

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I will gain all these things from the other decision.

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So I had to weigh which decision I would take.

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Both the outcomes would lead to getting my pastoral degree.

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But I had to choose what I believed would be the most beneficial and decision I made

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is I would say the one where it would teach me discipline and the one where it would teach

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me finances, the one where it would teach me strength.

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And I needed that one rather than the decision that would have been easier, but lacking all

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that lacking all the things leading to making me a better pastor minister.

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So yeah, it's been quite a journey this year.

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I think the reason I wanted to talk about that is because one, it was you had the alternate

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routes planned out, like you talked about, and also, man, I just thought of something

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Shawn, what happens if you have the alternate things planned out, and this isn't necessarily

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pertaining to you, it could be anything, but think about it in your own situation.

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What if those routes fail?

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What do you do?

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I have another out.

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It's true.

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I do have another out.

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You personally do.

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I actually do.

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I actually do.

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Yeah, I have another out.

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What if that one fails?

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This is where it comes down to.

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You know that you have a calling, a purpose.

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So the decision that we all make, right?

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Every route is supposed to lead to that.

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So if all those routes fail, I'll find another route because it has to get done.

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Because when you have a purpose, you have this ambition, you have this drive, you have

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this, I don't know what it's called.

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It's like, I don't know.

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I could never live a life that I didn't get to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ.

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I could never live that life.

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And it's just because it's in me.

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So if every route failed, I'm sure I'll find another route.

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And it's crazy to think that way.

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But you have to when you're going to achieve your goal in life.

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And I can sit here and ask you, we can talk about, you asked a question, well, how do

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you do that?

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How do you find it?

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Well, we can talk around that all day.

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But if we also don't talk about purpose in itself, like what is it in the book I'm reading,

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it talks about the definiteness of purpose.

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That you can't really teach people that.

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You can teach people concepts, which is as much as we can do here and teach people about

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our lives.

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But I want to teach, like talk about our lives, but like, and that's what we're hoping that

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will maybe spark something in you guys to like think about your own definiteness of

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Because when you have a definiteness of purpose, you will also your decisions become more definite.

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The decisions that you make will then change.

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Once you will change with where you see you want you're wanting your life to go.

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And that's where it comes down to that point you brought up early about like people who

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know who they are.

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People who know their purpose and calling.

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When you go back all your first note about that guy who said, yeah, where he said about

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like, if I could paraphrase, it was like, they don't make decisions lightly.

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Oh, okay.

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They'll have a reaching decision promptly.

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And they know like, you know, I mean, so like, they're the decisions that I have these routes

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weren't made like, oh, I'm just gonna do whatever you know, they were like, they were made for

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a specific purpose.

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If they fell, there's other routes I'll take to try to achieve the goal, achieve the calling,

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achieve the purpose.

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And I feel like that's where it comes like, well, you just don't make it lightly, because

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it's about knowing this has to achieve the purpose to achieve the calling.

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It's like, I think about those people too, who make decisions promptly and they make

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them quickly.

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Like, they like, they make those decisions without like, without knowing like, where

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like, I just had like, they know, and necessarily where they want to go.

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But they don't know where they're going to end up.

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And they're making the decisions anyway.

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And regardless, it's like, again, this was in one podcast I was listening to was, it

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was Ed Mylett and John Maxwell.

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They were talking, John starts talking about, he starts talking about making decisions.

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And he's like, there's so many people get stuck and afraid of making that taking that

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next step, because they can't see the tomorrow.

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And he uses the analogy of driving a car, which some of you might have heard before.

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Like, whenever you're driving in a car at night, all you can see is what your headlights

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allow you to see.

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You can only see that what that space right now is so good.

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But you can't, but you can't like, but you still see it moving forward.

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It's like work.

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It's like driving at night without GPS and paying attention to road signs.

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Yeah, that'd be crazy.

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Sorry, I lost it for a second.

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Oh, man.

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But yeah, it's like that's literally what going through life really, I believe is meant

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to be like.

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It's not like I am a person who hates not knowing things.

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And that is like why it is a skill, it's a habit.

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Like he said, like he's saying, like, this is now referencing on Napoleon Hill.

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But it's like what he's saying is that these people that they have formed the habit, they

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either like they formed it either after realizing that they didn't have it, or they form or

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they inherently got this trait, but through their upbringing or through whoever else.

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And now they're able to make these make decisions.

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I'm going to work this into my next point.

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Make these decisions without knowing what's coming next.

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And I like what he says next, he goes, the value of decisions depends on the courage

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required to render them.

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Oh, I love that.

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And a lot of the things people talk about.

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The thing that he talks about, he references, I'm not sure if I would have remembered what

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year this book was written.

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And it's like, oh man, I have to look it up again.

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But the he's talking about the Declaration of Independence and the 56 men that made the

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decision, not just 56 men, but three men who got those 56 men together.

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And then the decisions that these guys had to make put their lives on the line in order

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to get the United States like their independence from Great Britain.

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And there's like the current the value of that decision that they made, it essentially

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should be like, hey, yeah, like I was telling you, like the the British governor of Virginia,

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like I pretty much told him, like, you better back off.

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He's like, he's like, you're threatening me trying to bribe, they were trying to bribe

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them, they're trying to, they're trying to bribe them, talk them down from essentially

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getting this new council, this new council setting up the first, what I say, Congress,

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almost.

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I don't quote me don't I might not might be wrong with that terminology.

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But I'm getting together 56 men and like the British heard that this was happening.

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And like, they sent him a letter and he said, you better back down.

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And he was like, he like, no chance.

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The paraphrase very poorly.

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He said, he was like, no, he was like, no chance.

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Like, I remember one thing he said, you guys do not mess with the feelings of a, what do

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you say, do not mess with feelings of the exasperated, like, they wouldn't exaggerate

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people were they exasperated?

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Yeah, yeah, do not mess with the feelings of exasperated people.

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And he's talking about the American people is like, you mess with us too much.

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And that we're done.

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I think I like, he made the decision to put his life on the line.

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If they what they did, if what they did failed, like all 56 of them, men would have been hung.

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I know.

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But that's what you have to do.

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Like the I love what you said, like every decision that leads to purpose requires courage.

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You cannot, you cannot like not have courage and try to do these decisions.

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Because this is what, while like, I like that last point where he was talking about, like,

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why some people just never achieve their dreams or goals or their callings.

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Just because they lack the courage to they lack the the fortitude to stand the discipline

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to stand on what they believe.

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So they never achieve anything.

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Because if you don't believe anything, you won't achieve anything.

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And that's just how life works.

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Yeah, I think where you're going, I think I like that because I think you don't have

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to feel if you don't have a like a yeah, I think like if you like when you say you if

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you don't believe in something, are you particularly talking about like a greater power?

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I am talking about everything.

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God, but practical level as well.

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I'm talking about like if you don't believe you're going to be the best football player

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in the world, you will never train as hard as you can.

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Yeah.

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You're a boxer, if you don't believe in yourself and in your abilities, and whatever your purpose

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or your dream is, it will never come to life.

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You killed it.

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Dude, that's so good.

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Like, again, from thinking you're rich.

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He said, I think I might have mentioned this before on here, but I don't care.

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Like there, he talks about like, whenever you're writing down your essentially like

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your like your plan of how you're going to reach this goal that you set out for yourself.

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And when you're writing out this goal, or you're writing out this like this vision for

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yourself, he literally says throw reason out the window.

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Yeah, he's like, throw reason out.

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Do not like do not let reason determine what you're going to write down what you're going

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to like what you're going to pursue, because what your people what your people are doing

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now is what your people are doing now is way less what you're going to be able to what

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you're going to be capable of doing later.

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Easily agree.

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100%.

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So like you were so like what you're able to do.

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So like, if you're going to believe that you can get to that point of something you're

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not right now couldn't do, then you're going to believe that you can then you're going

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to make the decisions to the things that you make to learn the things that they get you

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to that point to gain the knowledge and the information.

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Yeah, I can't like, move me into another section about like, what as you're pursuing like,

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like you say, you're throwing reason out the window and you know, who you are right now.

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Yeah, you're not you're not capable.

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You don't have resources, you don't have to know how you like you don't have the wisdom

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to to reach the goal to pursue the pursue the calling to have the the the the the the

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confidence, the vision that has been set out before you.

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You have to you can't let other people's opinions sway.

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That's so good.

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What you're pursuing that a preacher holds.

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That's a whole that's a whole sermon right there because you can't I 100% agree with

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you Thomas like you cannot let people's opinion of what God is placed in your life.

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What God has called you to do to to fruition like if you let people go out there and say

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Thomas you know what you can't be a life coach and this is X, Y, Z and this this and this

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and this and you just go and believe them then you won't be what God called you to do.

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You know what I mean?

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What whatever God calls you to do people are not always going to agree.

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Why?

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Because they don't have the same vision as you did.

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They don't they don't have the same purpose as you and even if they have a similar purpose

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in your life doesn't mean that their their word is final.

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Their word is judgment in your vision your dream and your goals don't happen because

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they said so.

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Well I also want to say like I didn't write this note down and I because I was like man

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you're a little controversial but I say like okay but like he was saying like one of the

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things he says is like let me see if you're essentially is like whenever you are pursuing

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this calling but you want to gain information with it which is a little bit later down the

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road in my notes but you want to gain information like the only people that should really know

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exactly what you're pursuing are the people that are in your inner circle what he calls

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your mastermind.

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Yeah because if Mike you said the people that are trying to pursue the same things yeah

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like some people are jealous you know if you're so sure and you're so like you're so like

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confident in yourself people envy that absolutely and people envy that and will try to knock

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you down and there's um but going back to opinions for a second um that kind of leads

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into that but um I'm going to read a couple of my notes here uh about that he goes if

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you are influenced by opinions when you reach decisions you will not succeed in any undertaking

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okay close friends and relatives who are not meaning to do so often a handicap one through

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op through opinions and sometimes through ridicule which is meant to be humorous and

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he goes opinions are the cheapest commodity on earth and like um I just thought of a really

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funny thing that I don't think I think people are gonna be like oh my gosh Thomas what the

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heck am I am I woke no no it's just funny you ever hear like what you ever hear like

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what opinions are like yeah what do they like Shawn but like everyone has one and they all

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stink that's fair anyway um but no it's like if you let people's

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opinion if you're pursuing this calling and like you know that you can't reach it you

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know you're not capable but then the people around you the people your family that like

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your family that like it's not that they don't like you even say it's not that they don't

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believe in you yeah but they're going like sometimes they feel like they're people sometimes

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family and friends feel like they're being helpful by giving you by giving you an opinion

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by giving you their opinions and really they're not most of the time yeah and it like sometimes

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and like most of the time I would say an opinion like you're like hey you can accept it like

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hey yeah sure thank you for what you said I appreciate you giving me your input and

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then letting it like letting it slide up yeah letting it slide and like um unless it's a

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person with that has great wisdom and has great influence in your life um but even some

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of them I would say like this is why it's so important to know your purpose because

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some of your your best people in your council that sometimes say stuff that wasn't or isn't

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what God wants for your life oh my gosh I'm sorry listeners sorry about that yeah so like

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you know even some of them like well think about Jesus right Jesus is getting ready to

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die on the cross and you know what Peter's response was Lord you don't you don't have

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to do that like imagine if Jesus didn't die on the cross like he Peter's response with

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that you know what Jesus response was get behind me Satan you know what it wasn't as

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an like an insult to say like Peter was possessed or nothing like that no he wasn't but what

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he was doing even though he was he's with Jesus he's one of the council with Jesus right

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he was speaking out of his own rather than speaking out of knowledge of God and that

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and I've even the best of your advisors can still say the wrong thing that's what they

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their advisors yeah that's true you know I mean I see the point I see the point that

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you're making and I well like it's still like you still use discernment and decision making

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to choose not only they choose who's going to be in your inner circle and it was not

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going to be in your inner circle but yeah I also use proper discernment on whether to

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listen to what they're saying yeah I um and to them not nobody's perfect right right nobody's

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perfect and nobody's going to say the same right thing every single time and I think

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with with that and with that exact point I'd say whenever you're going to go have a conversation

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with maybe on a particular topic you want to ask them a question when it gains some

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wisdom yeah from them like I guess it just it's just a practical tip you go with questions

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prompt you go with questions you go you go forward with already having questions prepared

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and then you take their you take their the because you're going you're going to them

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because you're going to them for a for a console you're going to them for a conversation and

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sometimes sometimes this will be helpful other times you're just there to be with them be

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around them yeah but like you're there to get like uh you chose them because they can

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speak wisdom into your life right and the so the goal the goal of choosing people for

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your inner circle is that their majority of the time nine times out of ten what they're

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going to say is going to be useful yeah yeah I would agree um because if they're if it's

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like if it's a 50 50 shot then get them out like if it's a 50 50 shot then they're they're

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not worth it it's not worth the time like um the people that you need in your inner

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circle other people the people that you need to eat inner circle other people um that will

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speak good counsel and that will um that are some people that will speak good counsel maybe

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they're lateral to you then the people that are wiser than you and have seen more life

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than you and have done more than you um we're kind of off of the weeds a little bit but

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uh but yeah that's just like high level of inner circle but yeah we're in the weeds um

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do you have anything john before I dive into something else no we can dive into something

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else because I mean I I honestly feel like like I said it's important to have wise counsel

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but like what like what you said to reiterate is to make sure that you use the sermon on

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what decisions to accept from them and what decisions to throw away yeah and that's what

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everybody and that will keep you in the best version of yourself like um kind of one of

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the last sections move into now it's about self-reliance and communication and this is

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within decision making and um another quote from the book um he says you have you have

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a brain and a mind of your own use it and reach your own decisions if you need facts

461
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,080
or information from other people to enable you to reach decisions as you probably will

462
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:26,800
in many instances and this is why I said before acquire these facts or secure the information

463
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:34,040
you need quietly without disclosing your purpose oh yeah so good and I don't believe he didn't

464
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,840
say this specifically but I don't believe that particularly saying to that about your

465
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,040
inner circle yeah that's saying like um because your inner circle should know what your purpose

466
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:48,840
is what you're pursuing what you're going for um but to pull us back um but like uh

467
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:53,280
this is like whenever you're going out to somebody and you're not sure you know you

468
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:58,720
know you know they have um good wisdom and they're a good knowledge of what you're looking

469
00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:01,920
for in this instance this book was written before the internet and I know you know like

470
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,120
if you just want knowledge you can look it up or read a book yeah um but like if you

471
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,560
want knowledge from a human being you're like hey I'm just curious about this one thing

472
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,600
and I personally like I don't want to dive too deep into that because I don't I feel

473
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:18,600
like um you can go in a really wrong direction with that no but I think it's so good though

474
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:27,760
because think about it like this Joseph what did he do why did his brothers hate him Joseph

475
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:38,680
told his brothers his purpose his dream his vision and when he did so his brothers were

476
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:43,360
hatred and they were jealous so not everybody needs to know your purpose and your dream

477
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:48,680
and your your vision until you complete it sometimes not everybody does so I totally

478
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,520
agree with that that's good actually I'm glad you said that because the last point I have

479
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:56,440
done here is tell the world what you intend to do but first show it yeah I think it's

480
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:01,880
so good to just to achieve your goal your dream and vision and keep like you said they're

481
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:10,760
your wise counsel yeah but sometimes you can't let everybody know um and moving into like

482
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:15,960
more about communication and it's like like whenever you're whenever you're seeking your

483
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:20,320
wise counsel we're on that a lot today uh but when you're seeking your wise counsel

484
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,160
you're talking to people or even whether they're in your inner circle or somebody you're just

485
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:29,560
looking for wisdom from um you want to keep you like there's scripture on this you want

486
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,480
you want to keep your eye you want to keep your eye your eyes and ears wide open your

487
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:43,040
mouth closed um because like if you're looking to gain wisdom it's not going to come from

488
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:47,840
you like it's not going to come if you keep opening your mouth I agree like it's going

489
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:52,120
to like if you're like the people that you're looking to gain wisdom from like let them

490
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:56,880
talk just sit there and absorb sure questions ask the questions you want to ask but just

491
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,040
sit there and let them talk and when pat was here and he was like sorry I talked to us

492
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:08,040
like no that like yeah that's a good thing I like that's why you're here and like uh

493
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:19,480
because he's wise not just because he talks a lot um but um um but no I think um that

494
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,680
was just a quick point I wanted to make that I don't like I think like you have anything

495
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:28,160
on that no I honestly I think that's good because the bible talks about that many varied

496
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:34,960
verses um be quick to hear and slow to speak yeah be a prime example that um scripture

497
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:42,840
um yeah so like all the way it's important for us to when you're in the presence of knowledge

498
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:52,240
to be not oh it's about me but how can I learn yeah how can I be teachable how can what what

499
00:38:52,240 --> 00:39:01,920
am I learning from this what decision will help me achieve why am I here yeah and I think

500
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:09,360
um just to wrap it up a little bit I think that I have one one piece of scripture here

501
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:16,440
Shawn has like 50 but which is a good thing nothing that's bad it's good but uh I have

502
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:22,560
one I have one here but um this kind of lead us into the final final little discussion

503
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:27,920
point uh it's Matthew 18 19 he goes I tell you further if two of you agree upon the earth

504
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:33,520
concerning anything for which you ask it will come to you from my father who is in heaven

505
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:41,400
uh and I can speak to this from experience with Shawn and I in this podcast yeah like

506
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:48,240
we had a may we have to make multiple decisions like together in order to move forward yeah

507
00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:54,440
and like we had to make decisions to start the podcast yeah like that's one thing and

508
00:39:54,440 --> 00:40:00,680
like um like okay going way back to what I was talking about before about the whole like

509
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:10,760
declaration of independence and everything you know July 4th whatever July 4th is what

510
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:19,160
we celebrate but the just like Christmas you know it's not Jesus's birthday but uh

511
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:26,080
but uh the July 4th is what everybody remembers is what for for getting our independence from

512
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:32,640
Great Britain but really the more important date I think was September 15th yeah something

513
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:40,160
like that and because that was when the decision was made uh where this uh I would at least

514
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:48,640
36 no it was before that it was those three guys decided to actually pursue getting those

515
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,680
people together and they sent the letter that they were sending letters out and stuff and

516
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:59,760
like they're um that you know they did a decision to start yeah and that is a whole other topic

517
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:04,840
like starting but like uh but that no that's really good because that brings us to like

518
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:10,520
our first point think about it when we said uh step identifying the decision I'm sorry

519
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:15,800
we'll go right back I was just saying like step one is identifying that you need to make

520
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:20,840
a decision yeah that's what I said yeah to start yeah that's fair um that's a good point

521
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:25,320
yeah but like I wanted to like you know touch back on the scripture like even like like

522
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:30,560
if you didn't know you know we have merch yeah and like uh we had to make a decision

523
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:36,520
to do that we had to make a decision um when to do that how to do that what exactly like

524
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:41,560
we went back and forth like for at least a day or two about like what we were actually

525
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:46,560
going to sell yeah and then we sold more than we then we said we're just going to they were

526
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:51,160
like yeah we'll do shirts then we have to do hoodies yeah also let's get it and you

527
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:59,040
know 29 uh 1999 39.99 but uh 39.99 for a hoodie but um but uh more coming soon but the uh

528
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:06,000
I love it but like uh and then like we have to like we have to agree that we also like

529
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:12,960
John and I like we do have an agreement and like John has John has grace uh for some for

530
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:18,200
me I have grace for him um but we have like I feel like we've had this silent agreement

531
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:25,000
but still agreement that like whenever we have guests on yeah um they don't come on

532
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,160
the show until we both are like both are ready Shawn's ready most of the time yeah so it's

533
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:32,840
like just go go go it's like this person this person I'm like hold on so yeah I need to

534
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:38,040
know more about who they are and I need to like talk to them more and I knew like like

535
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:43,680
I need more information well I mean I think that's that's the reason why we work so well

536
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:48,280
because I'm like jelly and you're like peanut butter but it's all for eating you're just

537
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:53,520
saying that because because of uh no because I'm your mentor oh peanut butter and jelly

538
00:42:53,520 --> 00:43:02,600
pvj yeah now bible brothers I'll listen to them um but yeah um but yeah yeah no but no

539
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:08,120
but I was thinking more of like on the aspect yeah we go together but like you know we have

540
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:14,680
two different uh ways of viewing the world in opinions and stuff but it still works because

541
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:19,480
it's like hey I want to go grab this person Thomas is like okay let's let's check let's

542
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:24,480
see what's this person's schedule let's see and we work together well because Thomas is

543
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:31,920
more um logical and I'm more uh what's it called I can't yes yeah so you know I mean

544
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:37,920
so it works out there's a spider over there got distracted but uh but it's right on the

545
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:43,240
wall I can't look I see we have so many little so many of those little guys just running

546
00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:49,800
around anyway um but no guys like and the reason I brought that up at all like they

547
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,320
why did that happen what does coming in agreeance with each other have anything to do with the

548
00:43:53,320 --> 00:44:00,640
decision making and it's because like there are like there's times where you have to stare

549
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:05,440
at a spider and you can't look away until you're behind your bookshelf okay now we're

550
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:13,440
can pay attention but but but anyway there's like there are going to be times you have

551
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:18,560
to come to a joint decision yes and I like what he said what the scripture says is um

552
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:23,960
if two if two views agree upon the earth containing anything to which you ask it will come to

553
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,480
you from my father in heaven I'm sure there's actual like there's some like it's not saying

554
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:32,280
literally anything you agree on that God's going to give you yeah there's like um which

555
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:38,600
is kind of like spoken throughout scripture in itself but like if it's in its will and

556
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:43,000
we agree on it and we pursue it together and like if we pursue it together and we make

557
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,800
decisions of like okay who's going to do what yeah and like you can't like the people like

558
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:52,280
the most successful people in the world never did it never did it by themselves that's true

559
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:57,040
and they had to make they had to make initial decisions and then they have then they then

560
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:03,160
you know at leaders you know you decide who to give um who to delegate to and then they

561
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:08,520
make decisions and then like and then us us being like the co-host co-founders of this

562
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:14,280
podcast like yeah we have to make those joint decisions yeah otherwise it's not going to

563
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:20,000
work otherwise we fight otherwise we'll get frustrated like like otherwise otherwise it

564
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:24,000
would be like otherwise it could just break apart if we're not in agreement if we aren't

565
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:30,240
making joint decisions and i feel like that goes for friendships uh but in an aspect like

566
00:45:30,240 --> 00:45:39,640
this yeah that goes for business that goes for uh relationships um like yeah i like you

567
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:44,200
want to i don't have any other thing else to say on that to be honest i think you're

568
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:50,000
100% right i totally agree with that like you can't just make one person can't make

569
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:54,000
all the decisions even in a marriage think about like that because like if the husband

570
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:59,760
makes all decisions it doesn't involve the wife at all the marriage will be terrible

571
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:04,960
yeah like there's now man now i'm thinking in the scripture man look at you do to me

572
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:14,000
like i was uh reading um i'm gonna study about exodus and thinking back to moses and what he was

573
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:19,840
uh judging and he was the judge for every million of the millions of people he was a judge for

574
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:26,880
everybody and then um his father-in-law came in and was like hey yeah no like you should be

575
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:33,680
actually breaking this down and giving other people the like the different giving other people

576
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:44,480
like that you believe have this power to be judges for like a thousand a hundred and tens yeah um so

577
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,560
that you're not doing it all by yourself because that's not sustainable you burn yourself out it's

578
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:53,760
not going to work so it so it's like you could give other people that you know the power to make

579
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:58,960
decisions and that's that's like the top down that's yeah that's like thinking in the hierarchical

580
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:05,680
view of a business or in that case of just leadership in general um but yeah that's um

581
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:12,320
yes yeah i don't know that's all i had hey okay i'm good you want to wrap it up i think it's

582
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:17,120
time to wrap it up yeah at least yeah something else i know i honestly think that's a good point

583
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:26,320
to wrap it up that like um decision making is an important step to achieving why you are here

584
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:34,400
yeah but all right guys if you like this episode don't forget to give us five stars give us a five

585
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:41,680
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586
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587
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:57,840
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