Hey guys, welcome to part 1 of a new series, Why Are You Here?
It's a series of discussions all about purpose.
In this episode, we welcome a special guest, Kendall Maescher, who shares her insights
on purpose.
Kendall emphasizes that understanding the source of purpose is crucial, highlighting
her personal foundation in loving God and people.
We discuss the distinction between calling and purpose, with Kendall emphasizing that
purpose goes beyond specific roles and evolves with life stages.
The conversation delves into the eternal perspective of purpose, challenging the conventional view
that success defines worth.
Kendall's inspiring journey from feeling lost to embracing purpose reinforces the idea
that purpose isn't confined to a specific achievement, but is rooted in a deeper connection
to one's value.
We also encourage listeners to explore their passions, gifts, and strengths, emphasizing
that purpose isn't just a Christian concept, but a universal search for fulfillment.
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What's up guys?
Welcome to Technically Short.
I'm Sean.
I'm Thomas.
And we got a special guest today.
You're gonna really love her.
It's wow.
Just that that's an explanation.
Wow.
We'll just start exhortations.
Well first, I guess it's Kendall mostly.
Hey, measure now.
Come on.
Oh, I'm so excited to be here guys.
We've like been waiting for you.
We've been waiting for you.
Alright guys, we have like Brandy was on a couple weeks ago and we were telling you,
like we listen like every single week that you post, like we just love your podcast.
So it's such an honor to be on today.
I'm so excited.
Let's go.
Super pumped.
That's great.
Do you want to start with the exhortations?
Am I saying that right?
Pretty much.
Exhortations, yeah.
Exhortations.
Pretty much.
And I mean, this is just the same thing with Pat.
I didn't write them down this time.
But like, the way we typically do it, you were here for Brandy, you heard all the episodes.
The first thing that comes to my mind is what I write down.
And like, and the first thing I get trying to keep it unfiltered, the first thing that
comes in my mind, like when I think Kendall and Mazur, right this time, consistent, consistent,
kind and yeah, I think I think you say this a lot about a lot of people, but integrity.
For me, I'd say when I think about Kendall, I think about godly woman inspiration, because
her and Brandon literally inspired me to be a better Christian.
It's like that Paul, famous verse, which is in intimate on me.
And what's it?
I'm messing it up.
It's intimate me as I intimate Christ.
What is the word?
There it is.
It's like, imitate me as I imitate Christ, and then usually don't screw that verse up.
But yeah, I don't see see Kendall's godly woman strong, all that all the good stuff.
Thanks, guys.
That's so kind.
I'm like not like compliments is like a weird like I'm always like, what do I do?
Like it's not like an expectation.
So honestly, you saying like, oh, yeah, we did this for Brandon's.
I'm like, I don't even remember.
I remember like sitting on your steps when you're doing it.
Oh, my goodness.
All those things are so true.
Yes.
And then I just completely forgot that that was like a thing that you guys said, which
I think is so cool that it's like, not like, oh, because you complimented me.
But like, just you, like anybody that comes on to your podcast and like is able to speak,
like I just think the way that you like encourage before going into conversation, I think is
really cool and really beautiful.
So you guys are awesome.
Thanks.
I think we'll speak to that a little bit like the reason we anybody we asked to be on the
podcast on the show is because we know they have something to say.
Something that's going and it's somebody it's always going to be people we respect.
Yeah.
And so like, if we're if we're asking you to be on the show, if you like, or even if
you ask somebody maybe one day, people will say, hey, when I want to be on the show?
And like, cross that bridge when we get to it, I don't know how to handle that.
But like, yeah, it's because we it's because we see something in you and that we want and
we recently knew the exaltations is yes, it's to set up the conversation is also to give
the people who are listening might not know you a foundation, a foundation to stand on
before we go into the conversation.
Wow, you guys are killing it with this podcast thing.
So cool.
We're about to hit it one year soon, huh?
Oh, no, no, no, absolutely not.
So I'm just excited.
Yeah, we'll probably.
We're like 17 weeks in, right?
No, no, no, we're like, this is probably episode, like, 29.
I see.
We're almost a year in 52 52 weeks in a year.
And it takes some holidays.
But you are so right, John.
Happy one year, guys.
This is the one year podcast.
But but all right, before we guys, I might have mentioned it.
I've been doing intros for these for all the episodes.
Probably mentioned already in the intro.
But there but this is the first episode of our new series called Why Are You Here?
And when I first brought that up to Sean, he was like, are you sure?
Because it sounded a little tough.
Think about it like it's like, why are you here?
People are going to be like, why are they here?
What is this?
I love it.
And it's the whole concept is about purpose.
And well, there's going to be like the goal.
It's going to be maybe it might be shorter, maybe the same length as the excellent series.
But the whole purpose of this conversation, of these conversations going to be the term
purpose from different angles, because they will have different people on to talk from
it from their perspective.
And yeah, I'm excited for this conversation.
It's gonna be really good.
So lean in, take notes.
Because note takers are history makers.
There we go.
Come on, Sean.
Amen.
Before we dive into the conversation.
Yeah.
Why don't you give the people quick couple minute.
What do you want to call it?
I think Josh Baylock, he said it with an elevator pitch.
Yeah.
Yep.
This will be the worst part of the podcast.
Something I'm always like, I don't even know what to say about myself.
You guys sent me the questions earlier, and this is the only one I looked at all of them.
And I was like, these are like so good.
But I feel like this is the one I was like, I really need to like think for this question.
Anyways, I am Kendall, and just the most important thing about me is I love Jesus with my whole
heart.
And everything that I love to do and everything about me really flows from that.
And it's what I want to flow from that.
And so I am a worship leader at our church at Amplify.
And I have served in a bunch of different areas over the years, but right now kind of
just mainly stepping into focusing on worship.
And so really excited about that.
But I love all things creative.
I love anything crafty, anything like musical.
I love anything like nature-y.
I think honestly, I think like God is like, he's like the creator, you know?
And so I feel like whenever I'm doing something with art or like music, I feel like I'm like
really tuned in him because I'm like, he is a creator.
And so I'm like asking him like, okay, like, what, like, what can I like, what can I do
that like represents you?
And I think even just like being in nature, like getting to see like the beauty of who
he is, I'm just like, wow, like in awe of just everything that points to him.
And so those are some things about me.
I'm a nanny full time, which is so fun, so rewarding.
My nanny, three little kiddos, which is so fun.
And I just love people and love getting to be around people and looking to serve people,
especially with my husband Brandon.
And so we're in this new married life journey.
And it's just been really cool and really sweet so far.
But I'm really excited to see like what the rest of our lives continue to look like getting
to serve like God's kingdom.
So that's me.
All right.
The one thing I remembered, whatever you said, love all things.
You are like creative, but also love of nature.
Yeah.
Is your love of bugs.
I do.
You guys have definitely heard me like go on and on and on about how much I love stinkbugs.
I'm like, I grew up in the woods.
Okay.
So I'm just like, sometimes I'm still like, okay, kind of gross.
Don't really like want them near me.
Don't really like always want them on me.
I'm like, if I'm outside, it's a little bit different.
If I'm inside, I'm like, that's my space, you know?
But I feel like if you're afraid of bugs and you think bugs are really gross, just this
is going to sound terrible, but like just put it in a little jar and just just just
stare at it for a little bit and tell me like God is not like in the details.
Like a stinkbug, if you look at their little shells, I'm just like, oh my goodness, they
literally look like kaleidoscopes.
And I'm like, that is so cool that God created them.
Anyways, I can geek out forever about stinkbugs, but they're just really cool.
And they just, I just feel like they pointed Jesus.
So I don't know.
That's just me.
That's honestly funny.
The whole podcast just becomes me talking about stinkbugs.
They both pointed Jesus.
Yes.
That's awesome.
But, man, sometimes it's hard to transition now into the meat of the episode.
Let's go.
Let's just go.
But talking on purpose now.
Yeah.
So like when I grabbed a quote a little bit earlier from Mark Twain, it's the two most
important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why.
Oh, that's good.
So Kendall, like with you, like, as you understand it,
Yeah.
We'll go into like what you believe what your purpose is.
Yeah.
But first, what do you think the purpose of purpose is?
When I looked at this question, I was like, oof, that is, oh, wow.
I think to, okay, I think to say like, okay, what is the purpose of purpose?
I think before you can really answer that for yourself, you have to kind of think of
like, where does that even come from?
Like, who does my purpose come from?
And like, what, like, like, what does that even mean?
Like, where does it come from?
Like, who does it come from?
And I think, because I think that any answer can kind of be different.
Like, I feel like a lot of people can answer a lot of different things when it comes to
purpose.
But I personally think for me, when I think of like what my purpose actually is, and like,
we'll get into this more like in the podcast, but I think it really like first and foremost
is like, okay, who does my purpose come from?
Because then I really start to understand like what the purpose of purpose is.
And so for me, like, like my purpose is like to love God and to love people.
But if I'm not looking of like, okay, my purpose is coming from the Lord, then like, what am
I loving and why am I loving people out of response to that?
Does that make sense?
I feel like that's like my answer, which doesn't like fully answer.
But I think that that's really like, I think for me, like the foundation of like the purpose
of my purpose is like, who and like where it comes from.
And that's the Lord.
So that's powerful.
Because my question was going to literally be, what do you think God gave?
What is your God given purpose?
Like, what do you think God called you to?
Yeah.
Um, I think that that's a really good question.
And I think, um, I shared this with the Inspire Collective team, I think is in the summer
because I'm pretty sure I remember standing outside when I was telling you guys this.
Um, but I think that there is a difference between calling and purpose.
And I think I used to always view them as like the same thing.
And so I think because I didn't always think of like purpose as this thing from the Lord.
I didn't always think of it as like this, like loving God and loving people.
Um, I think I always thought of it as what I was doing or what I was producing or like
this.
And then when I gave my life to Jesus, I think it really took me a while to be like, okay,
like what's the difference between my purpose and my calling?
Like, isn't like the same thing?
Like the Lord is like calling me to this thing.
And so that's like my purpose in life.
Um, but really like, I think if I make my whole life, I think if I make my purpose about
what I feel like the Lord is calling me to in a season or like a time in my life, if
I make that my purpose, then it's always going to be moving, always going to be changing
and it's never going to be like solid.
And so I think for me at first I was like, the Lord is like calling me to like lead worship
and like, I want to be a worship leader.
And like, that's something that I feel like he like has given me, like, I don't want to
be like, he's giving me a gift, but I'm like, he, like, I do feel like he's like giving
me like a gift.
And so like the voice that I have, like, is not mine and like, I don't want to use it
for myself, but, um, I feel like he was like calling me to lead worship.
But if I view leading worship as like my whole purpose in life, then like when I'm 80 years
old, realistically, I'm not going to be leading worship.
You know what I mean?
Like, I'm not going to be on the stage.
I amplify like jumping around, you know, like it's just like not really realistic.
And so if I make my whole purpose in life, like me being a worship leader, I'm going
to miss everything else that I'm doing in my life, you know?
And so I'm going to miss like, like the purpose and my friendships.
I'm going to miss the purpose in my job.
I'm going to miss the purpose in whatever, even like tiny things that I may be doing
that can have a purpose.
Like I'm going to be missing out on all those things.
I'm going to make my whole identity off of this thing that I'm doing.
And even so like my calling, I'm like my calling, like this is what I said to the team
because I like watched a video and I was like, oh my goodness, like I was like deep, but
they basically were saying like that my calling is like the Lord.
Like my calling is not the things that I'm doing, but it is the Lord.
And he's the one that's calling me and like telling me like where to go and guiding me
and directing me.
So I think that's how I would answer that question.
Like my calling isn't just like a set thing, but like my calling is him.
And so out of me loving him and loving people, he's going to leave me in the different areas
that he's calling me to in order to really do that.
So yeah, that was unexpected.
I really, every time I think about purpose, I honestly think that like your purpose is
like why God designed you personally, like, you know what I mean?
Which is so incredible that you broke it down.
Like you can have a purpose for your daily job.
You got a purpose like God has purpose in everything that you're doing.
In my head, I used to just think it was one thing like, all right, Thomas was designed
to be a leader.
God is calling him to be a leader.
Sean was called to be a pastor or preacher or whatever God wants me to do.
And like, you know, I used to think it was just that.
And it's like, if you don't live up to what God called you to, then you're hurting all
the people who actually need you to step into your role.
You know what I mean?
So it's like, wow, that you can bring purpose into everything.
That was very deep.
Yeah.
Thank you.
And to speak to that, like, John Maxwell, like he goes into a little bit of it and he
talks to, he has a couple of short videos called Minute with Maxwell.
He does it like every day.
And when he talks about purpose, he has like, you ask yourself two questions.
And it's what am I passionate about and what am I good at?
And what are my gifts?
And it's like the intersection point between those two.
And I think like this might be a separate take, but it's also like from what you were
saying, like the purpose isn't just for what you're good at.
It's not just for what you're passionate about.
It's because that passion of what you're passionate about can be expansive.
Yeah.
But then God gave us particular gifts and it could be multiple gifts, but he gave us
these particular gifts that we love to do, love to cherish, love to grow.
And what I believe is in order to fulfill what he's calling us towards.
Right.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
I think that like whatever giftings he's given us, like in whatever strengths and all those
things, I think like absolutely like use those and like act out like in those things, you
know?
But kind of like what you were saying, like I think that that's like a way to do it.
But like that can't be.
Like that itself can't be like my full purpose is just doing this thing, but it's really
like what am I passionate about?
And like what are these things that I'm like interested in?
And like what are my strengths and what are all those things that I can use in order to
continue to like, if I'm like, okay, my purpose is to love God and to love people.
How can I do those things through the things that I'm passionate about and what I really
feel like the Lord has like gifted me in, you know?
So yeah.
Yeah.
So good.
Like I said, if you're not taking notes, it's not taking notes.
It's going to be one of those episodes.
Probably have to have a part two of this.
This is really good.
So I'm going to actually ask, I have like a kind of a sub question.
So why should somebody be interested in their purpose?
Like why is it important?
I think personally for me, like I think the way that I view my purpose, I definitely used
to view it as like my worth.
So like I definitely used to be like, oh, I feel like I don't have a purpose in life
and so I'm like worth nothing.
Like I don't really know like how to, and this was like all before knowing Jesus, like
me being like really lost and not knowing and thinking that everything was just going
to be like within like the timeframe that I'm alive on this earth, you know?
And so I think for me, like when it comes to purpose, I think as Christians, we can't
just think that it's just like earth side, that it just ends here.
But I think for us like love God and love people, knowing that there's like, I think
having like an eternal perspective of if I love God and I love people, even if I'm not
telling people exactly like the gospel in every single situation or every single conversation,
if I'm just like loving them well, then that can be planting seeds and that can mean a
difference in eternity for them.
And so I think when it's like, why is it important and like why does it matter and like all those
things?
I think it's really like, it's not just going to like end here on earth for us.
It's like, can mean eternity is different for other people.
That's powerful.
I don't know if that makes sense or if that really answers the question.
I also low key halfway through, I was like, am I answering the right question?
So I might've gone off, but...
No, you're good.
Like I think the reason I asked it was because I feel like not everybody really, I don't
think everybody thinks about it.
Yeah.
Like a lot of people would just go with what society, with what the world kind of tells
you, like, oh, you go across these steps, this is how you reach fulfillment, this is
how you reach success.
And they don't really teach about individuality.
Yeah.
And like, this is your, this is your, this is how I teach people like on the general
scale, like, what are you meant to do?
Yeah.
And like, what, not just like what job can you go get with like the basic skills that
you have?
And so like, I'm really like speaking like to the, speaking to the listeners and like,
if you're not sure what your purpose is, like, like Sean already said, taking notes, but
also like with your, if you don't know, I don't know, like if you don't know what your
purpose is, like you ask yourself again, those questions.
Yeah.
I think like, I think one of the things that makes me so sad when I think about like what
people think of as purpose.
I think that a lot of people do think that their purpose is to be successful and their
purpose is to make this amount and stuff like that.
And then what happens when you get to that point?
And I think that that's why even like, as like me saying with like my calling, I'm like,
what happens when I get to that point that I'm like doing this thing?
And I think me being like, okay, like I'm living my life for Jesus.
I know that I'm never going to be perfect.
I'm never going to like fully arrive at like everything I'm supposed to, like I'm always
going to be growing.
And so that's like encouraging to me.
But I think for the people that are like, oh, I just need to make this amount of money
and like not kind of have continued goals or anything like that.
I think that they're just going to continue to be chasing things that are never going
to seem fulfilling.
And so I think that that's because it's all about earth side, you know?
And so I think even like for the people that maybe listening that aren't Christians that
are like, what is my purpose?
And you're saying about like eternity, but like, I don't really like believe in that.
I think honestly, for me coming from somebody that didn't always believe in Jesus, my purpose
really changed when, cause like I said before, like my purpose, I always thought like I'm
not, like I don't have any worth.
Like I don't really have a purpose in life.
And so just the things I went through, I was like, I just am worthless and all of those
things.
And so I think what I would say to like people that are listening that may not believe in
Jesus, like the sole thing for me that comes with purpose is like knowing the value.
Like your purpose, like for me, like my purpose, like loving God, loving people is because
I know the value that the Lord like believes is over my life.
Like that he saw me as like worthy of him sending my son, like his son for me, you know?
And so I'm like, that is like that he like sees worth in me.
He sees value in me.
And so I'm like, how can I not like out of response be like, this is it, you know?
And so it's so like, like it's so like fulfilling and like peaceful and like joyful because I'm
like, my purpose is not about the things that I do for him, you know?
And it might sound being like, okay, love God, love people, but those are like actions.
But really it's like out of knowing, like because of the value he has placed on my life
and the love he has for me, then this is just an overflow in a response.
Like, like my purpose is not something that's just always like attainable and always going
to like reach, you know?
Like there are going to be things that I'm not going to do perfectly, but it's like my
purpose is just continue to love him and chase after him and make him first and love people
out of response to that, you know?
I just got this, like you said something for a second.
I thought you were saying something else.
They kind of started this whole thought process.
Yeah.
You said like, like the soul thing.
Yeah.
I was like, the foot, like what it, I want to say this in a way that hopefully like makes
sense because it makes sense in my head.
Like what is your soul thing?
Yeah.
Like your soul.
Like, and maybe that is just like, like sounds wishy washy, but like that's just what popped
in my head and started this whole thought process of like whenever you feel it in your
head, you get this certain feeling whenever you discover your calling, when you discover
your purpose.
Yeah.
And like I personally, like I, as a Christian, I believe that's like the Holy Spirit like
being like, yeah, that's it.
Yeah.
That's it.
You found it.
You're out searching, but like, yeah, it's like, there it is.
It's that fulfillment.
Yeah.
It's getting excited.
Yeah.
And you're getting, and like, and like, that's like, you know, we don't, like we don't, and
like Christians aren't the only people who feel that.
Yeah.
And like, and I think that's sometimes, like the more I dive into my faith, it's like the
more evidence I see in the calling and the purpose.
Because we're, again, as Christians, like we have, like we all have, like we all have
the one purpose of like the Great Commission.
And, and, but then we also have our individual purpose of how we're, how we're going to fulfill
it.
Yeah.
And to those who don't might not know what that Great Commission is, it's like to bring
other people to Christ.
Yeah.
And it's not through like hitting them in the head with the Bible.
Yeah.
Like, it felt that like when it comes to your purpose, being tapped into that, you can be
wherever you are.
You could be like a banker and lead people to Jesus, or you could be like a guy who washes
dishes and lead people to Jesus.
Like your purpose is like, I feel that it's connected to your calling.
Right?
Like, so like, it's so powerful because the reason why I say that you guys were always
my inspiration is because you guys inspired me to be a better Christian by imitating Christ.
Right?
And like, I even took down the bio, like if you read any of my bios on my public platforms,
they all say, love God, teach people, I mean, love people and teach people to love God.
Right?
So like those type of things, like the inspiration, you guys are just doing your purpose without
even knowing and then it's just like inspires other people to live out their purpose.
And that's the whole purpose of I feel that is to listen to God and then whatever God
has has on your life to do that, because it inspires others.
And if you don't do that, other people don't get inspired, other people stay in bondage,
other people don't get captive.
And then somebody else tries to has to do your position and it's never, never the same
because we all are meant to reach different people.
And so if nobody does the work, it'll still get done.
But you won't be able to reach the person that you could have reached.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
And I don't want to like say any of this and be like, oh, there's no hope for you if you're
not like a Christian, because that's really the exact opposite of what I'm saying.
And so by me saying like, okay, like you need to know like your value.
I think for me, it's like, like what I'm trying to say is like, there is not a single person
where it's like, that is almost earth that like doesn't have value.
Like that isn't like that God didn't see and be like, they are worth me sending Jesus for
them.
And so it's not just a okay, only Christians are like, like, just because we've accepted
him and like love Jesus, like means that, like if somebody doesn't love him, that he
doesn't love them back.
It's like he loves all of us.
And so he has like that piece for all of us where it's really just like, love me, follow
me and like help other people to love me.
And like, that's all about like just loving people and like representing Jesus to them.
Like not having to force anybody to think any type of thing.
But I'm like, man, like for the people that are lost thinking like I have no purpose and
I've been trying to find in all these earthly things, like, I really don't think that you're
going to find it in earthly things.
You know, and I think that we can live it out on earth, but I don't think that it's
something that's meant to just be about earth.
I think that it's meant to be about way more, you know, so so powerful.
Can I give me a thought?
Give me a thought for like from the eternal perspective, actually, I want to make another
comment first.
Um, I would like for those who are listening, like it's so hard as Christians, like for
us not to bring up God whenever we talk about purpose.
Yeah, because like that, like kind of said multiple times, that's where we believe our
purpose comes from.
It comes from it comes from him.
And like, it's just a to leave that out, I think, wouldn't be us being true to who we
are.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, I know that we say sometimes, I say sometimes that this isn't particularly a Christian
podcast, but we are Christian.
Yeah.
And I think I heard about band before, like, they weren't a Christian band, but they're
all but they're all a band of Christians.
Yeah.
And I like to think about this a lot.
And even if we start talking about Godness, because while we Christians, yeah, but, but
moving moving into, I forget what I was gonna ask before now, but I wanted to make sure
I said that but the.
So were you about to talk about the people who don't believe in God finding their purpose?
No, no, I had something else.
But it's okay.
I was, um, you were kind of touching on it before, yeah, Kendall, and you talked about
a little bit about how you struggled with with your purpose in the beginning.
Yeah.
So could you like dive a little bit deeper into that?
Yeah.
I think for me, like you guys both kind of know, like, probably know like a lot of like
my story and like my testimony, but.
Thank you for listening to this episode of Technically Short.
This being part one of the new Why Are You Here series, Sean, Kendall and I really did
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And guys, if you haven't already, share us out on your social medias so more people can
hear the messages from the guests that we're having on and from us so we can speak more
life into more people.
Right guys, I'll see you next time.