1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:10,000 Hey guys, welcome to part 1 of a new series, Why Are You Here? 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,840 It's a series of discussions all about purpose. 3 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:19,680 In this episode, we welcome a special guest, Kendall Maescher, who shares her insights 4 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,200 on purpose. 5 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:26,520 Kendall emphasizes that understanding the source of purpose is crucial, highlighting 6 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,240 her personal foundation in loving God and people. 7 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,760 We discuss the distinction between calling and purpose, with Kendall emphasizing that 8 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:40,160 purpose goes beyond specific roles and evolves with life stages. 9 00:00:40,160 --> 00:00:46,040 The conversation delves into the eternal perspective of purpose, challenging the conventional view 10 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,760 that success defines worth. 11 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:54,120 Kendall's inspiring journey from feeling lost to embracing purpose reinforces the idea 12 00:00:54,120 --> 00:01:01,040 that purpose isn't confined to a specific achievement, but is rooted in a deeper connection 13 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,040 to one's value. 14 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:08,720 We also encourage listeners to explore their passions, gifts, and strengths, emphasizing 15 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:14,160 that purpose isn't just a Christian concept, but a universal search for fulfillment. 16 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,200 Alright guys, I'll see you in the episode. 17 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:23,080 Take some notes. 18 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:24,880 We got something to tell you. 19 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:25,880 We got merch. 20 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:30,840 Yeah guys, we have t-shirts, we have hoodies. 21 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:31,840 T-shirts are $19.99. 22 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:32,840 And hoodies are $39.99. 23 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:33,840 Are $39.99. 24 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:46,040 And guys, if you want it, you can DM us on our Instagram, technically.short, or if you 25 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,920 know us personally, you can shoot us a text message. 26 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,800 But yeah, see you in the episode. 27 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:52,800 See you in the episode. 28 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:58,680 What's up guys? 29 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,080 Welcome to Technically Short. 30 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:01,080 I'm Sean. 31 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:02,080 I'm Thomas. 32 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:03,640 And we got a special guest today. 33 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,040 You're gonna really love her. 34 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:06,040 It's wow. 35 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,040 Just that that's an explanation. 36 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:10,040 Wow. 37 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:11,040 We'll just start exhortations. 38 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:12,040 Well first, I guess it's Kendall mostly. 39 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:13,040 Hey, measure now. 40 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:14,040 Come on. 41 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,040 Oh, I'm so excited to be here guys. 42 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:16,040 We've like been waiting for you. 43 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:17,040 We've been waiting for you. 44 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:18,040 We've been waiting for you. 45 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:19,040 We've been waiting for you. 46 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:20,040 We've been waiting for you. 47 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:21,040 We've been waiting for you. 48 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:22,040 We've been waiting for you. 49 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:23,040 We've been waiting for you. 50 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:24,040 We've been waiting for you. 51 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:25,600 Alright guys, we have like Brandy was on a couple weeks ago and we were telling you, 52 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:30,520 like we listen like every single week that you post, like we just love your podcast. 53 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,160 So it's such an honor to be on today. 54 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:33,160 I'm so excited. 55 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:34,160 Let's go. 56 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:35,160 Super pumped. 57 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:36,160 That's great. 58 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:37,160 Do you want to start with the exhortations? 59 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:38,160 Am I saying that right? 60 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:39,160 Pretty much. 61 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:40,160 Exhortations, yeah. 62 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:41,160 Exhortations. 63 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,160 Pretty much. 64 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:47,160 And I mean, this is just the same thing with Pat. 65 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:48,720 I didn't write them down this time. 66 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:56,320 But like, the way we typically do it, you were here for Brandy, you heard all the episodes. 67 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,440 The first thing that comes to my mind is what I write down. 68 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,640 And like, and the first thing I get trying to keep it unfiltered, the first thing that 69 00:03:03,640 --> 00:03:12,680 comes in my mind, like when I think Kendall and Mazur, right this time, consistent, consistent, 70 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:18,280 kind and yeah, I think I think you say this a lot about a lot of people, but integrity. 71 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:28,320 For me, I'd say when I think about Kendall, I think about godly woman inspiration, because 72 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,800 her and Brandon literally inspired me to be a better Christian. 73 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:38,200 It's like that Paul, famous verse, which is in intimate on me. 74 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:39,200 And what's it? 75 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,400 I'm messing it up. 76 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,200 It's intimate me as I intimate Christ. 77 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:46,200 What is the word? 78 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:47,200 There it is. 79 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:51,880 It's like, imitate me as I imitate Christ, and then usually don't screw that verse up. 80 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:57,800 But yeah, I don't see see Kendall's godly woman strong, all that all the good stuff. 81 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:58,800 Thanks, guys. 82 00:03:58,800 --> 00:03:59,800 That's so kind. 83 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:08,680 I'm like not like compliments is like a weird like I'm always like, what do I do? 84 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,400 Like it's not like an expectation. 85 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,840 So honestly, you saying like, oh, yeah, we did this for Brandon's. 86 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,400 I'm like, I don't even remember. 87 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,440 I remember like sitting on your steps when you're doing it. 88 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:18,440 Oh, my goodness. 89 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:19,440 All those things are so true. 90 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:20,440 Yes. 91 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:24,040 And then I just completely forgot that that was like a thing that you guys said, which 92 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:28,120 I think is so cool that it's like, not like, oh, because you complimented me. 93 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:33,160 But like, just you, like anybody that comes on to your podcast and like is able to speak, 94 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,960 like I just think the way that you like encourage before going into conversation, I think is 95 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:38,400 really cool and really beautiful. 96 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,520 So you guys are awesome. 97 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:41,520 Thanks. 98 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:46,960 I think we'll speak to that a little bit like the reason we anybody we asked to be on the 99 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,840 podcast on the show is because we know they have something to say. 100 00:04:50,840 --> 00:04:54,240 Something that's going and it's somebody it's always going to be people we respect. 101 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:55,240 Yeah. 102 00:04:55,240 --> 00:05:01,880 And so like, if we're if we're asking you to be on the show, if you like, or even if 103 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:06,800 you ask somebody maybe one day, people will say, hey, when I want to be on the show? 104 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:11,840 And like, cross that bridge when we get to it, I don't know how to handle that. 105 00:05:11,840 --> 00:05:17,240 But like, yeah, it's because we it's because we see something in you and that we want and 106 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:21,720 we recently knew the exaltations is yes, it's to set up the conversation is also to give 107 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:26,920 the people who are listening might not know you a foundation, a foundation to stand on 108 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:27,920 before we go into the conversation. 109 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:32,440 Wow, you guys are killing it with this podcast thing. 110 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:33,440 So cool. 111 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,960 We're about to hit it one year soon, huh? 112 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,000 Oh, no, no, no, absolutely not. 113 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,000 So I'm just excited. 114 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,000 Yeah, we'll probably. 115 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,600 We're like 17 weeks in, right? 116 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:52,000 No, no, no, we're like, this is probably episode, like, 29. 117 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,000 I see. 118 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:59,400 We're almost a year in 52 52 weeks in a year. 119 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:00,400 And it takes some holidays. 120 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:06,200 But you are so right, John. 121 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,680 Happy one year, guys. 122 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,360 This is the one year podcast. 123 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:18,320 But but all right, before we guys, I might have mentioned it. 124 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,360 I've been doing intros for these for all the episodes. 125 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,800 Probably mentioned already in the intro. 126 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:32,120 But there but this is the first episode of our new series called Why Are You Here? 127 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,720 And when I first brought that up to Sean, he was like, are you sure? 128 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,600 Because it sounded a little tough. 129 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,800 Think about it like it's like, why are you here? 130 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,960 People are going to be like, why are they here? 131 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:44,960 What is this? 132 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:45,960 I love it. 133 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,920 And it's the whole concept is about purpose. 134 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,400 And well, there's going to be like the goal. 135 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:56,320 It's going to be maybe it might be shorter, maybe the same length as the excellent series. 136 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:01,800 But the whole purpose of this conversation, of these conversations going to be the term 137 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:06,200 purpose from different angles, because they will have different people on to talk from 138 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:07,200 it from their perspective. 139 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,200 And yeah, I'm excited for this conversation. 140 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,600 It's gonna be really good. 141 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,760 So lean in, take notes. 142 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,200 Because note takers are history makers. 143 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:19,200 There we go. 144 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:20,200 Come on, Sean. 145 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:21,200 Amen. 146 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:22,200 Before we dive into the conversation. 147 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:23,200 Yeah. 148 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,200 Why don't you give the people quick couple minute. 149 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,200 What do you want to call it? 150 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,200 I think Josh Baylock, he said it with an elevator pitch. 151 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:32,200 Yeah. 152 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:33,200 Yep. 153 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:34,200 This will be the worst part of the podcast. 154 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,200 Something I'm always like, I don't even know what to say about myself. 155 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:42,200 You guys sent me the questions earlier, and this is the only one I looked at all of them. 156 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:43,200 And I was like, these are like so good. 157 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:47,200 But I feel like this is the one I was like, I really need to like think for this question. 158 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:55,200 Anyways, I am Kendall, and just the most important thing about me is I love Jesus with my whole 159 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:56,200 heart. 160 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:00,200 And everything that I love to do and everything about me really flows from that. 161 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,200 And it's what I want to flow from that. 162 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:07,200 And so I am a worship leader at our church at Amplify. 163 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:12,200 And I have served in a bunch of different areas over the years, but right now kind of 164 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,200 just mainly stepping into focusing on worship. 165 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,200 And so really excited about that. 166 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,200 But I love all things creative. 167 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,200 I love anything crafty, anything like musical. 168 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,200 I love anything like nature-y. 169 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:28,200 I think honestly, I think like God is like, he's like the creator, you know? 170 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:32,200 And so I feel like whenever I'm doing something with art or like music, I feel like I'm like 171 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,200 really tuned in him because I'm like, he is a creator. 172 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:39,200 And so I'm like asking him like, okay, like, what, like, what can I like, what can I do 173 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,200 that like represents you? 174 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:45,200 And I think even just like being in nature, like getting to see like the beauty of who 175 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:51,200 he is, I'm just like, wow, like in awe of just everything that points to him. 176 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,200 And so those are some things about me. 177 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,200 I'm a nanny full time, which is so fun, so rewarding. 178 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,200 My nanny, three little kiddos, which is so fun. 179 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:05,200 And I just love people and love getting to be around people and looking to serve people, 180 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:06,200 especially with my husband Brandon. 181 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:10,200 And so we're in this new married life journey. 182 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,200 And it's just been really cool and really sweet so far. 183 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:17,200 But I'm really excited to see like what the rest of our lives continue to look like getting 184 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,200 to serve like God's kingdom. 185 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,200 So that's me. 186 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:22,200 All right. 187 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,200 The one thing I remembered, whatever you said, love all things. 188 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,200 You are like creative, but also love of nature. 189 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:29,200 Yeah. 190 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:30,200 Is your love of bugs. 191 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:31,200 I do. 192 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,200 I do. 193 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:39,200 You guys have definitely heard me like go on and on and on about how much I love stinkbugs. 194 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,200 I'm like, I grew up in the woods. 195 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:42,200 Okay. 196 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,200 So I'm just like, sometimes I'm still like, okay, kind of gross. 197 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:46,200 Don't really like want them near me. 198 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,200 Don't really like always want them on me. 199 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,200 I'm like, if I'm outside, it's a little bit different. 200 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,200 If I'm inside, I'm like, that's my space, you know? 201 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:56,200 But I feel like if you're afraid of bugs and you think bugs are really gross, just this 202 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:01,200 is going to sound terrible, but like just put it in a little jar and just just just 203 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:06,200 stare at it for a little bit and tell me like God is not like in the details. 204 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:11,200 Like a stinkbug, if you look at their little shells, I'm just like, oh my goodness, they 205 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:12,200 literally look like kaleidoscopes. 206 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,200 And I'm like, that is so cool that God created them. 207 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:19,200 Anyways, I can geek out forever about stinkbugs, but they're just really cool. 208 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,200 And they just, I just feel like they pointed Jesus. 209 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,200 So I don't know. 210 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:24,200 That's just me. 211 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,200 That's honestly funny. 212 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:31,200 The whole podcast just becomes me talking about stinkbugs. 213 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,200 They both pointed Jesus. 214 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,200 Yes. 215 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,200 That's awesome. 216 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:42,200 But, man, sometimes it's hard to transition now into the meat of the episode. 217 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:43,200 Let's go. 218 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:44,200 Let's just go. 219 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,200 But talking on purpose now. 220 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:47,200 Yeah. 221 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:55,200 So like when I grabbed a quote a little bit earlier from Mark Twain, it's the two most 222 00:10:55,200 --> 00:11:00,200 important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why. 223 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,200 Oh, that's good. 224 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:06,200 So Kendall, like with you, like, as you understand it, 225 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:07,200 Yeah. 226 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,200 We'll go into like what you believe what your purpose is. 227 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:12,200 Yeah. 228 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,200 But first, what do you think the purpose of purpose is? 229 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:20,200 When I looked at this question, I was like, oof, that is, oh, wow. 230 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:26,200 I think to, okay, I think to say like, okay, what is the purpose of purpose? 231 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:31,200 I think before you can really answer that for yourself, you have to kind of think of 232 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,200 like, where does that even come from? 233 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,200 Like, who does my purpose come from? 234 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,200 And like, what, like, like, what does that even mean? 235 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:39,200 Like, where does it come from? 236 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:40,200 Like, who does it come from? 237 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:44,200 And I think, because I think that any answer can kind of be different. 238 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,200 Like, I feel like a lot of people can answer a lot of different things when it comes to 239 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:48,200 purpose. 240 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:54,200 But I personally think for me, when I think of like what my purpose actually is, and like, 241 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:59,200 we'll get into this more like in the podcast, but I think it really like first and foremost 242 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,200 is like, okay, who does my purpose come from? 243 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:07,200 Because then I really start to understand like what the purpose of purpose is. 244 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:12,200 And so for me, like, like my purpose is like to love God and to love people. 245 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:16,200 But if I'm not looking of like, okay, my purpose is coming from the Lord, then like, what am 246 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,200 I loving and why am I loving people out of response to that? 247 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:20,200 Does that make sense? 248 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:24,200 I feel like that's like my answer, which doesn't like fully answer. 249 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:29,200 But I think that that's really like, I think for me, like the foundation of like the purpose 250 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,200 of my purpose is like, who and like where it comes from. 251 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:33,200 And that's the Lord. 252 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:34,200 So that's powerful. 253 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:39,200 Because my question was going to literally be, what do you think God gave? 254 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,200 What is your God given purpose? 255 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,200 Like, what do you think God called you to? 256 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,200 Yeah. 257 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,200 Um, I think that that's a really good question. 258 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:52,200 And I think, um, I shared this with the Inspire Collective team, I think is in the summer 259 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,200 because I'm pretty sure I remember standing outside when I was telling you guys this. 260 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:59,200 Um, but I think that there is a difference between calling and purpose. 261 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,200 And I think I used to always view them as like the same thing. 262 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:07,200 And so I think because I didn't always think of like purpose as this thing from the Lord. 263 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:11,200 I didn't always think of it as like this, like loving God and loving people. 264 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:16,200 Um, I think I always thought of it as what I was doing or what I was producing or like 265 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:17,200 this. 266 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:22,200 And then when I gave my life to Jesus, I think it really took me a while to be like, okay, 267 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,200 like what's the difference between my purpose and my calling? 268 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:25,200 Like, isn't like the same thing? 269 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,200 Like the Lord is like calling me to this thing. 270 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,200 And so that's like my purpose in life. 271 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:35,200 Um, but really like, I think if I make my whole life, I think if I make my purpose about 272 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:39,200 what I feel like the Lord is calling me to in a season or like a time in my life, if 273 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:44,200 I make that my purpose, then it's always going to be moving, always going to be changing 274 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,200 and it's never going to be like solid. 275 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:51,200 And so I think for me at first I was like, the Lord is like calling me to like lead worship 276 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:52,200 and like, I want to be a worship leader. 277 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:57,200 And like, that's something that I feel like he like has given me, like, I don't want to 278 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,200 be like, he's giving me a gift, but I'm like, he, like, I do feel like he's like giving 279 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:01,200 me like a gift. 280 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,200 And so like the voice that I have, like, is not mine and like, I don't want to use it 281 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:09,200 for myself, but, um, I feel like he was like calling me to lead worship. 282 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:13,200 But if I view leading worship as like my whole purpose in life, then like when I'm 80 years 283 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,200 old, realistically, I'm not going to be leading worship. 284 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:17,200 You know what I mean? 285 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:18,200 Like, I'm not going to be on the stage. 286 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,200 I amplify like jumping around, you know, like it's just like not really realistic. 287 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:25,200 And so if I make my whole purpose in life, like me being a worship leader, I'm going 288 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,200 to miss everything else that I'm doing in my life, you know? 289 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,200 And so I'm going to miss like, like the purpose and my friendships. 290 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,200 I'm going to miss the purpose in my job. 291 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:38,200 I'm going to miss the purpose in whatever, even like tiny things that I may be doing 292 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:39,200 that can have a purpose. 293 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,200 Like I'm going to be missing out on all those things. 294 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:46,200 I'm going to make my whole identity off of this thing that I'm doing. 295 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:50,200 And even so like my calling, I'm like my calling, like this is what I said to the team 296 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:54,200 because I like watched a video and I was like, oh my goodness, like I was like deep, but 297 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,200 they basically were saying like that my calling is like the Lord. 298 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,200 Like my calling is not the things that I'm doing, but it is the Lord. 299 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:03,200 And he's the one that's calling me and like telling me like where to go and guiding me 300 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:04,200 and directing me. 301 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,200 So I think that's how I would answer that question. 302 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:12,200 Like my calling isn't just like a set thing, but like my calling is him. 303 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:17,200 And so out of me loving him and loving people, he's going to leave me in the different areas 304 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,200 that he's calling me to in order to really do that. 305 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:23,200 So yeah, that was unexpected. 306 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:28,200 I really, every time I think about purpose, I honestly think that like your purpose is 307 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:32,200 like why God designed you personally, like, you know what I mean? 308 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,200 Which is so incredible that you broke it down. 309 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,200 Like you can have a purpose for your daily job. 310 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,200 You got a purpose like God has purpose in everything that you're doing. 311 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:46,200 In my head, I used to just think it was one thing like, all right, Thomas was designed 312 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:47,200 to be a leader. 313 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:48,200 God is calling him to be a leader. 314 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:53,200 Sean was called to be a pastor or preacher or whatever God wants me to do. 315 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,200 And like, you know, I used to think it was just that. 316 00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:00,200 And it's like, if you don't live up to what God called you to, then you're hurting all 317 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:04,200 the people who actually need you to step into your role. 318 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:05,200 You know what I mean? 319 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,200 So it's like, wow, that you can bring purpose into everything. 320 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:09,200 That was very deep. 321 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:10,200 Yeah. 322 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:11,200 Thank you. 323 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:19,200 And to speak to that, like, John Maxwell, like he goes into a little bit of it and he 324 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,200 talks to, he has a couple of short videos called Minute with Maxwell. 325 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,200 He does it like every day. 326 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:30,200 And when he talks about purpose, he has like, you ask yourself two questions. 327 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,200 And it's what am I passionate about and what am I good at? 328 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,200 And what are my gifts? 329 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,200 And it's like the intersection point between those two. 330 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:44,200 And I think like this might be a separate take, but it's also like from what you were 331 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:50,200 saying, like the purpose isn't just for what you're good at. 332 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:54,200 It's not just for what you're passionate about. 333 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:59,200 It's because that passion of what you're passionate about can be expansive. 334 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:00,200 Yeah. 335 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:04,200 But then God gave us particular gifts and it could be multiple gifts, but he gave us 336 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:09,200 these particular gifts that we love to do, love to cherish, love to grow. 337 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:15,200 And what I believe is in order to fulfill what he's calling us towards. 338 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:16,200 Right. 339 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:17,200 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 340 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:22,200 I think that like whatever giftings he's given us, like in whatever strengths and all those 341 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,200 things, I think like absolutely like use those and like act out like in those things, you 342 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:27,200 know? 343 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:31,200 But kind of like what you were saying, like I think that that's like a way to do it. 344 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:32,200 But like that can't be. 345 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:36,200 Like that itself can't be like my full purpose is just doing this thing, but it's really 346 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,200 like what am I passionate about? 347 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,200 And like what are these things that I'm like interested in? 348 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:45,200 And like what are my strengths and what are all those things that I can use in order to 349 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:49,200 continue to like, if I'm like, okay, my purpose is to love God and to love people. 350 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,200 How can I do those things through the things that I'm passionate about and what I really 351 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,200 feel like the Lord has like gifted me in, you know? 352 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:56,200 So yeah. 353 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:57,200 Yeah. 354 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:58,200 So good. 355 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,200 Like I said, if you're not taking notes, it's not taking notes. 356 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:02,200 It's going to be one of those episodes. 357 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,200 Probably have to have a part two of this. 358 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:05,200 This is really good. 359 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:11,200 So I'm going to actually ask, I have like a kind of a sub question. 360 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:15,200 So why should somebody be interested in their purpose? 361 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,200 Like why is it important? 362 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:24,200 I think personally for me, like I think the way that I view my purpose, I definitely used 363 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,200 to view it as like my worth. 364 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,200 So like I definitely used to be like, oh, I feel like I don't have a purpose in life 365 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,200 and so I'm like worth nothing. 366 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,200 Like I don't really know like how to, and this was like all before knowing Jesus, like 367 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:39,200 me being like really lost and not knowing and thinking that everything was just going 368 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:44,200 to be like within like the timeframe that I'm alive on this earth, you know? 369 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:48,200 And so I think for me, like when it comes to purpose, I think as Christians, we can't 370 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:53,200 just think that it's just like earth side, that it just ends here. 371 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,200 But I think for us like love God and love people, knowing that there's like, I think 372 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:01,200 having like an eternal perspective of if I love God and I love people, even if I'm not 373 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:07,200 telling people exactly like the gospel in every single situation or every single conversation, 374 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,200 if I'm just like loving them well, then that can be planting seeds and that can mean a 375 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,200 difference in eternity for them. 376 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:19,200 And so I think when it's like, why is it important and like why does it matter and like all those 377 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:20,200 things? 378 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:27,200 I think it's really like, it's not just going to like end here on earth for us. 379 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:31,200 It's like, can mean eternity is different for other people. 380 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:32,200 That's powerful. 381 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,200 I don't know if that makes sense or if that really answers the question. 382 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:38,200 I also low key halfway through, I was like, am I answering the right question? 383 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,200 So I might've gone off, but... 384 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:41,200 No, you're good. 385 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:46,200 Like I think the reason I asked it was because I feel like not everybody really, I don't 386 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,200 think everybody thinks about it. 387 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:49,200 Yeah. 388 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:55,200 Like a lot of people would just go with what society, with what the world kind of tells 389 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,200 you, like, oh, you go across these steps, this is how you reach fulfillment, this is 390 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,200 how you reach success. 391 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,200 And they don't really teach about individuality. 392 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:03,200 Yeah. 393 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:08,200 And like, this is your, this is your, this is how I teach people like on the general 394 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,200 scale, like, what are you meant to do? 395 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:12,200 Yeah. 396 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:17,200 And like, what, not just like what job can you go get with like the basic skills that 397 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:18,200 you have? 398 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:24,200 And so like, I'm really like speaking like to the, speaking to the listeners and like, 399 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:30,200 if you're not sure what your purpose is, like, like Sean already said, taking notes, but 400 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:35,200 also like with your, if you don't know, I don't know, like if you don't know what your 401 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,200 purpose is, like you ask yourself again, those questions. 402 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:39,200 Yeah. 403 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:44,200 I think like, I think one of the things that makes me so sad when I think about like what 404 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,200 people think of as purpose. 405 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,200 I think that a lot of people do think that their purpose is to be successful and their 406 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,200 purpose is to make this amount and stuff like that. 407 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,200 And then what happens when you get to that point? 408 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:58,200 And I think that that's why even like, as like me saying with like my calling, I'm like, 409 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,200 what happens when I get to that point that I'm like doing this thing? 410 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:05,200 And I think me being like, okay, like I'm living my life for Jesus. 411 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,200 I know that I'm never going to be perfect. 412 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:12,200 I'm never going to like fully arrive at like everything I'm supposed to, like I'm always 413 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:13,200 going to be growing. 414 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:14,200 And so that's like encouraging to me. 415 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:18,200 But I think for the people that are like, oh, I just need to make this amount of money 416 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:22,200 and like not kind of have continued goals or anything like that. 417 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,200 I think that they're just going to continue to be chasing things that are never going 418 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,200 to seem fulfilling. 419 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:30,200 And so I think that that's because it's all about earth side, you know? 420 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:34,200 And so I think even like for the people that maybe listening that aren't Christians that 421 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,200 are like, what is my purpose? 422 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,200 And you're saying about like eternity, but like, I don't really like believe in that. 423 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:45,200 I think honestly, for me coming from somebody that didn't always believe in Jesus, my purpose 424 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:50,200 really changed when, cause like I said before, like my purpose, I always thought like I'm 425 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,200 not, like I don't have any worth. 426 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,200 Like I don't really have a purpose in life. 427 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:59,200 And so just the things I went through, I was like, I just am worthless and all of those 428 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:00,200 things. 429 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:05,200 And so I think what I would say to like people that are listening that may not believe in 430 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:10,200 Jesus, like the sole thing for me that comes with purpose is like knowing the value. 431 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:15,200 Like your purpose, like for me, like my purpose, like loving God, loving people is because 432 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,200 I know the value that the Lord like believes is over my life. 433 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:24,200 Like that he saw me as like worthy of him sending my son, like his son for me, you know? 434 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:28,200 And so I'm like, that is like that he like sees worth in me. 435 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,200 He sees value in me. 436 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:34,200 And so I'm like, how can I not like out of response be like, this is it, you know? 437 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:40,200 And so it's so like, like it's so like fulfilling and like peaceful and like joyful because I'm 438 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,200 like, my purpose is not about the things that I do for him, you know? 439 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,200 And it might sound being like, okay, love God, love people, but those are like actions. 440 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,200 But really it's like out of knowing, like because of the value he has placed on my life 441 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,200 and the love he has for me, then this is just an overflow in a response. 442 00:22:55,200 --> 00:23:01,200 Like, like my purpose is not something that's just always like attainable and always going 443 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,200 to like reach, you know? 444 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,200 Like there are going to be things that I'm not going to do perfectly, but it's like my 445 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:11,200 purpose is just continue to love him and chase after him and make him first and love people 446 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,200 out of response to that, you know? 447 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:17,200 I just got this, like you said something for a second. 448 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,200 I thought you were saying something else. 449 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,200 They kind of started this whole thought process. 450 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,200 Yeah. 451 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,200 You said like, like the soul thing. 452 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:25,200 Yeah. 453 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:29,200 I was like, the foot, like what it, I want to say this in a way that hopefully like makes 454 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,200 sense because it makes sense in my head. 455 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,200 Like what is your soul thing? 456 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,200 Yeah. 457 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,200 Like your soul. 458 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:40,200 Like, and maybe that is just like, like sounds wishy washy, but like that's just what popped 459 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,200 in my head and started this whole thought process of like whenever you feel it in your 460 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,200 head, you get this certain feeling whenever you discover your calling, when you discover 461 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,200 your purpose. 462 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,200 Yeah. 463 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:53,200 And like I personally, like I, as a Christian, I believe that's like the Holy Spirit like 464 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,200 being like, yeah, that's it. 465 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,200 Yeah. 466 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:57,200 That's it. 467 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,200 You found it. 468 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,200 You're out searching, but like, yeah, it's like, there it is. 469 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,200 It's that fulfillment. 470 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,200 Yeah. 471 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:04,200 It's getting excited. 472 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,200 Yeah. 473 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:10,200 And you're getting, and like, and like, that's like, you know, we don't, like we don't, and 474 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,200 like Christians aren't the only people who feel that. 475 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:13,200 Yeah. 476 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:19,200 And like, and I think that's sometimes, like the more I dive into my faith, it's like the 477 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:23,200 more evidence I see in the calling and the purpose. 478 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:28,200 Because we're, again, as Christians, like we have, like we all have, like we all have 479 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,200 the one purpose of like the Great Commission. 480 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:35,200 And, and, but then we also have our individual purpose of how we're, how we're going to fulfill 481 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,200 it. 482 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:37,200 Yeah. 483 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:42,200 And to those who don't might not know what that Great Commission is, it's like to bring 484 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,200 other people to Christ. 485 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,200 Yeah. 486 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,200 And it's not through like hitting them in the head with the Bible. 487 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,200 Yeah. 488 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:58,200 Like, it felt that like when it comes to your purpose, being tapped into that, you can be 489 00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,200 wherever you are. 490 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:05,320 You could be like a banker and lead people to Jesus, or you could be like a guy who washes 491 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,200 dishes and lead people to Jesus. 492 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:12,200 Like your purpose is like, I feel that it's connected to your calling. 493 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,200 Right? 494 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,160 Like, so like, it's so powerful because the reason why I say that you guys were always 495 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:22,360 my inspiration is because you guys inspired me to be a better Christian by imitating Christ. 496 00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:23,360 Right? 497 00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:30,960 And like, I even took down the bio, like if you read any of my bios on my public platforms, 498 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:36,480 they all say, love God, teach people, I mean, love people and teach people to love God. 499 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:37,480 Right? 500 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:42,960 So like those type of things, like the inspiration, you guys are just doing your purpose without 501 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:48,640 even knowing and then it's just like inspires other people to live out their purpose. 502 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:55,120 And that's the whole purpose of I feel that is to listen to God and then whatever God 503 00:25:55,120 --> 00:26:00,080 has has on your life to do that, because it inspires others. 504 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:05,200 And if you don't do that, other people don't get inspired, other people stay in bondage, 505 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,800 other people don't get captive. 506 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:12,960 And then somebody else tries to has to do your position and it's never, never the same 507 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,280 because we all are meant to reach different people. 508 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,580 And so if nobody does the work, it'll still get done. 509 00:26:19,580 --> 00:26:24,320 But you won't be able to reach the person that you could have reached. 510 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:25,320 Yeah, yeah. 511 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:26,320 Yeah. 512 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,200 And I don't want to like say any of this and be like, oh, there's no hope for you if you're 513 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:33,460 not like a Christian, because that's really the exact opposite of what I'm saying. 514 00:26:33,460 --> 00:26:36,960 And so by me saying like, okay, like you need to know like your value. 515 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:41,480 I think for me, it's like, like what I'm trying to say is like, there is not a single person 516 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,080 where it's like, that is almost earth that like doesn't have value. 517 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,840 Like that isn't like that God didn't see and be like, they are worth me sending Jesus for 518 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:50,840 them. 519 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:56,520 And so it's not just a okay, only Christians are like, like, just because we've accepted 520 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,960 him and like love Jesus, like means that, like if somebody doesn't love him, that he 521 00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:00,960 doesn't love them back. 522 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,480 It's like he loves all of us. 523 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:08,720 And so he has like that piece for all of us where it's really just like, love me, follow 524 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,600 me and like help other people to love me. 525 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:16,240 And like, that's all about like just loving people and like representing Jesus to them. 526 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:20,200 Like not having to force anybody to think any type of thing. 527 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,920 But I'm like, man, like for the people that are lost thinking like I have no purpose and 528 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,760 I've been trying to find in all these earthly things, like, I really don't think that you're 529 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,200 going to find it in earthly things. 530 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,640 You know, and I think that we can live it out on earth, but I don't think that it's 531 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,160 something that's meant to just be about earth. 532 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,200 I think that it's meant to be about way more, you know, so so powerful. 533 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:42,200 Can I give me a thought? 534 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,560 Give me a thought for like from the eternal perspective, actually, I want to make another 535 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:45,560 comment first. 536 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:51,320 Um, I would like for those who are listening, like it's so hard as Christians, like for 537 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,160 us not to bring up God whenever we talk about purpose. 538 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:59,360 Yeah, because like that, like kind of said multiple times, that's where we believe our 539 00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:00,360 purpose comes from. 540 00:28:00,360 --> 00:28:03,360 It comes from it comes from him. 541 00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:09,720 And like, it's just a to leave that out, I think, wouldn't be us being true to who we 542 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:10,720 are. 543 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:11,720 Yeah, yeah. 544 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,200 Okay, I know that we say sometimes, I say sometimes that this isn't particularly a Christian 545 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,000 podcast, but we are Christian. 546 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,000 Yeah. 547 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,840 And I think I heard about band before, like, they weren't a Christian band, but they're 548 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,880 all but they're all a band of Christians. 549 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:24,880 Yeah. 550 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,880 And I like to think about this a lot. 551 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:32,080 And even if we start talking about Godness, because while we Christians, yeah, but, but 552 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,680 moving moving into, I forget what I was gonna ask before now, but I wanted to make sure 553 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,960 I said that but the. 554 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:44,080 So were you about to talk about the people who don't believe in God finding their purpose? 555 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,000 No, no, I had something else. 556 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,000 But it's okay. 557 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,840 I was, um, you were kind of touching on it before, yeah, Kendall, and you talked about 558 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,120 a little bit about how you struggled with with your purpose in the beginning. 559 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,120 Yeah. 560 00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,920 So could you like dive a little bit deeper into that? 561 00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:00,920 Yeah. 562 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,920 I think for me, like you guys both kind of know, like, probably know like a lot of like 563 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:09,800 my story and like my testimony, but. 564 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,760 Thank you for listening to this episode of Technically Short. 565 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:19,920 This being part one of the new Why Are You Here series, Sean, Kendall and I really did 566 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:24,080 have a lot of fun with this conversation, if you couldn't tell, and it's only going 567 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,720 to get better from here. 568 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,960 So if you guys want to hear part two, stay tuned. 569 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:33,800 If you haven't subscribed, follow us on Instagram, subscribe to us on YouTube, and whatever other 570 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:34,800 platform you're on. 571 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,820 Give us a five star review. 572 00:29:36,820 --> 00:29:38,880 Don't need those one stars. 573 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:43,940 And guys, if you haven't already, share us out on your social medias so more people can 574 00:29:43,940 --> 00:29:50,600 hear the messages from the guests that we're having on and from us so we can speak more 575 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,600 life into more people. 576 00:29:52,600 --> 00:30:14,960 Right guys, I'll see you next time.