1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,480 Hey guys, welcome to part five of the Perfectly Imperfect Series on Excellence with Pastor 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:08,480 Brandon Major. 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:15,320 Here we're going to dive into his wisdom on personal growth, emphasizing authenticity, 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,160 fostering community, and embracing sacrifice. 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:24,640 We're going to gain some practical insights for a transformative journey towards a more 6 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,320 fulfilling life. 7 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,200 Guys, get ready. 8 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:30,200 We're going in. 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:31,200 See you in there. 10 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:32,200 Hey guys, how's it going? 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:39,200 Welcome to this episode of Technically Sure. 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:40,200 I'm Thomas. 13 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:41,200 I'm Shawn. 14 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:49,760 And you know, we're in the series Perfectly Imperfect and this is, I believe, part seven 15 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,320 or eight, whichever one it is. 16 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:56,080 And yeah, we have another special guest. 17 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:57,080 Hello. 18 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:58,080 Guess who it is. 19 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:59,080 Welcome Brandon. 20 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:00,080 Hello guys. 21 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:01,080 It's so good to be with you guys. 22 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:02,080 Thanks so much for having me. 23 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:03,080 I'm excited to be here. 24 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:04,080 Of course. 25 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:05,080 Yeah, for sure. 26 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:12,080 I'd like to say right from the outset, I know you want to say something, but I'm going to. 27 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:18,200 I'd like to say from the outset that I believe that I'm your number one fan and I'm just 28 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,280 going to let everybody listening to this know that ahead of time. 29 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,640 I think I've listened to every episode and so I'm so honored to be here with you guys. 30 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,800 I love what you're doing just as a friend. 31 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,520 I want to say from the outset, I'm really proud of you guys for doing this. 32 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,680 This takes a lot to get outside of your comfort zone and to just be willing to put yourself 33 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:37,680 out there like this. 34 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:38,680 So I'm proud of you guys. 35 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:39,680 I love being here. 36 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:40,680 Let's kick it and have some fun. 37 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:41,680 Yeah, for sure. 38 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,600 Well, really appreciate you saying all those things because I guess you listen to the last 39 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,600 of the pubs so you know kind of know where we're going to start off. 40 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:49,600 I do. 41 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:50,600 I've been dreading this. 42 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:51,600 It's so awkward. 43 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:52,600 It's sweet. 44 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,360 It's the good stuff. 45 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,680 Yeah, we want to give you some exaltations or words of affirmation. 46 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,720 I love that. 47 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:08,480 So we always think about what's the first thing that pop in our head and I had to say 48 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:14,280 for a couple minutes and like what's the first thing and one thing is that you say what you 49 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:19,040 mean and your yes is yes, your no is no. 50 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:25,760 Great leader and encourager and that's the thing I've noticed and also lifts others up 51 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:30,640 and this is particularly something that Josh mentioned in his episode that you see things 52 00:02:30,640 --> 00:02:34,760 in people that they don't see in themselves and exemplify that part of them. 53 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:35,760 Wow. 54 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:41,920 And I'm sure you're doing that with more than this Josh, but that was an example he brought 55 00:02:41,920 --> 00:02:42,920 up. 56 00:02:42,920 --> 00:02:43,920 Wow. 57 00:02:43,920 --> 00:02:44,920 That's so kind, Thomas. 58 00:02:44,920 --> 00:02:45,920 Wow. 59 00:02:45,920 --> 00:02:46,920 You guys are the best. 60 00:02:46,920 --> 00:02:47,920 Wow. 61 00:02:47,920 --> 00:02:48,920 Thank you so much. 62 00:02:48,920 --> 00:02:51,800 Well, what can I say about my mentor? 63 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:59,320 I can honestly say that he is very kind, strong, funny inspiration. 64 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,760 Like he's his inspiration to the generation. 65 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:08,240 Like he is, I would say a servant of God and like he has a heart for the people, but he 66 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:09,960 also has heart for God. 67 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,160 So he's just doing everything that he should be doing. 68 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:14,160 You know what I mean? 69 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:15,160 Hold on. 70 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:16,160 Thanks, Shawn. 71 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:17,160 You're making me blush over here. 72 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,160 I'm glad there's no video. 73 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,840 No, I love you guys. 74 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:22,840 Thank you so much. 75 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:23,840 I'm sure to be here. 76 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:24,840 Yeah. 77 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:25,840 I don't know. 78 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:31,000 Like that's always like, I don't know why that was the way we like we decided to start 79 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,800 it and forget what it was. 80 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,360 Michaela was the first one we did it with. 81 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:35,840 Cause you might've been Michaela. 82 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:36,840 Yeah. 83 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:37,840 Show up Michaela. 84 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:38,840 What an episode. 85 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:39,840 Yeah. 86 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:40,840 That was a good one for sure. 87 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:41,840 The noiting in the mostly family. 88 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:42,840 No, I love that you start out that way. 89 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:43,840 Yeah. 90 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:44,840 The world needs more of that. 91 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:45,840 Build each other up. 92 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:47,320 Encouragement all around it. 93 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:48,320 And I love that. 94 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:49,320 It's beautiful. 95 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:53,440 It was just, yeah, just something that popped in her head and yeah, we want to like set 96 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,080 the episode on a good foot. 97 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:56,080 So start off on a good foot. 98 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:57,080 Yeah. 99 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:58,080 Set a nice foundation for it before we dive in. 100 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:59,760 Yeah, I love that. 101 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:06,800 And but with that, with that part out of the way and like say it was hard to do, but the, 102 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:11,600 why don't you give like a quick 30, 60 quick intro about who you are. 103 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,200 The good old elevator pitch. 104 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:14,200 Okay. 105 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,120 Well, I am Brandon Major. 106 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:17,400 I love Jesus. 107 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:23,080 I love to serve Jesus and we know each other from church, Amplified Church, where I serve 108 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:24,080 as one of the pastors. 109 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:28,040 I'm kind of, I feel like a floating pastor there where I just hop from thing to thing 110 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,040 to thing. 111 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:34,760 So I don't want to put a specific label on it because it just, I feel like I hop around 112 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,000 and I love music. 113 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,960 I love sports and I love friends and community. 114 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:43,720 And so things like this, man, they energize me because I love hanging out with awesome 115 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,680 people and doing things like this. 116 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:46,680 I also have a podcast. 117 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:47,680 You have Josh on. 118 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:48,680 Okay. 119 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:49,680 What's the name of it? 120 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,680 The who needs the name podcast. 121 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,240 And you know, we're just trying to live up to your standard guys. 122 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:57,240 Okay. 123 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:58,240 We can dream. 124 00:04:58,240 --> 00:04:59,240 We can hope. 125 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,480 But if you want to check us out over there, it's a fun time. 126 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,840 And we'll post the link, the links to all the socials and platforms in the show notes. 127 00:05:06,840 --> 00:05:07,840 What a guy. 128 00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:08,840 What a guy. 129 00:05:08,840 --> 00:05:11,840 I don't even know how to do that. 130 00:05:11,840 --> 00:05:12,840 That's impressive. 131 00:05:12,840 --> 00:05:13,840 I don't know how to do that. 132 00:05:13,840 --> 00:05:14,840 I don't know how to do that either. 133 00:05:14,840 --> 00:05:18,840 Shawn, Shawn, does Thomas carry the weight of this? 134 00:05:18,840 --> 00:05:19,840 Absolutely. 135 00:05:19,840 --> 00:05:20,840 I love it. 136 00:05:20,840 --> 00:05:21,840 I love it. 137 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:22,840 Gotta be honest. 138 00:05:22,840 --> 00:05:28,120 He's the Josh, the PB and J. 139 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:29,120 Yeah. 140 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:30,120 Josh carries us. 141 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,760 I just kind of show up and talk. 142 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:33,760 He's a real one. 143 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,760 He's a total G. I love Josh. 144 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:37,760 That's the same. 145 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:38,760 Well, all right. 146 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:43,000 We're just diving to the meat of the episode. 147 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,000 Just do it. 148 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,000 Let's dive in. 149 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,200 So, you know, this is a series on excellence. 150 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:48,200 Yeah. 151 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,360 And you know, like we're actually a very vague question. 152 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:51,360 Yeah. 153 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:55,040 And so to you and answer this, however, however you want. 154 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,040 Yeah. 155 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:57,040 What is excellence? 156 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:58,040 I love that question. 157 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:03,280 And I also would say I love all the people who I've listened to on here and define that 158 00:06:03,280 --> 00:06:07,280 and explain the reasoning for it, because I think there's there's truth in what every 159 00:06:07,280 --> 00:06:10,680 person saying and they're defining what excellence is. 160 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,760 But there's wisdom and insight to glean from everybody. 161 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:18,640 I think excellence for me, I would first define it as what it's not. 162 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,160 And it's not perfection. 163 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:21,160 Right. 164 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:28,180 It's not because if you if you view excellence as perfection, you're going to live a performance 165 00:06:28,180 --> 00:06:30,960 based life in every single thing. 166 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:37,320 Your identity, your value, your validation all becomes a result of have I succeeded and 167 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,280 have I been successful and have I hit every metric in every mark? 168 00:06:40,280 --> 00:06:41,640 I don't think that's what excellence is. 169 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:46,360 I think excellence is pursuing with a pure heart, at least if I can bring in like the 170 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:47,360 spiritual end. 171 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:53,480 OK, so spiritual excellence when we talk excellence within the church or within biblical terms, 172 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:58,520 I really think it is passionately pursuing everything Jesus has called you to pursue 173 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,360 with everything you have. 174 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:06,240 Not perfectly, not without failure and not without some falls along the way. 175 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,480 But it's that mentality that you're going to get back up. 176 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,000 You're going to keep chasing after him. 177 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:14,000 And I think that's really maybe maybe that's not it's hard to measure. 178 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,040 But I think that might be better defined as like the heart of excellence. 179 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,040 Yeah. 180 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:20,040 Right. 181 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,280 Like and maybe not so much the byproduct that we would measure and consider. 182 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,440 Yeah, that was done excellently because you can kind of see those things, feel those things, 183 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:28,440 touch those things. 184 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:33,400 But I kind of I think I'm speaking more to the heart of at least from a believer. 185 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:34,400 What's the heart of excellence? 186 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,440 I think it comes down to what are your motives? 187 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:38,960 Are you chasing after him? 188 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,000 Are you leaving other people to him? 189 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,800 And are you giving your whole life to that? 190 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:43,800 Does that make sense? 191 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,400 Yeah, it makes perfect sense. 192 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:46,400 Really good. 193 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,240 I think it's very similar kind of to what Michaela brought up in her episode about not 194 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:51,840 striving but seeking. 195 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:52,840 Love that. 196 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:53,840 Love that. 197 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:54,840 Yep, 100 percent. 198 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:55,840 That's my sister-in-law, everybody. 199 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:56,840 So shout out Michaela. 200 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:57,840 The wisdom. 201 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:58,840 The wisdom in her podcast. 202 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,000 Oh my gosh, check that out. 203 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,160 Paradox and perspective podcast. 204 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:11,880 But 100 percent, it's a difference between I need to work to be good enough to I am already 205 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,080 good enough because of Jesus and now my work is a result of that. 206 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:16,080 You know what I mean? 207 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:21,680 Flipping it on its head and just getting out of the religious mindset into just walking 208 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:22,680 freely with him. 209 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:23,680 Yeah. 210 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,960 And for those who don't know, like what is a religious mindset? 211 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:30,320 Oh, the religious mindset is just I got to do enough to be enough. 212 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:31,320 Yep. 213 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,400 You know, it's I got to strive, I got to try, I got to put in effort and that's why people 214 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:36,600 walk away from that. 215 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:37,600 Yeah. 216 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,920 Because you realize that's never going to lead you to anything lasting or any success 217 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:46,040 because you're trying to live up to a standard you can't attain and that's the whole point 218 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:47,040 of the cross. 219 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,760 So then you cheapen the cross of Christ and not to make it this all spiritual. 220 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:51,760 I know this is for everybody. 221 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,280 Even if you don't follow Jesus, you can still glean from this. 222 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:56,280 Yeah. 223 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,640 You cheapen the cross and you say, Oh, I need to be good enough. 224 00:08:58,640 --> 00:08:59,920 I need to work for excellence. 225 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:01,360 It's like, no, no, no. 226 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,160 You are who Jesus says you are. 227 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:04,160 Yeah. 228 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:08,440 Now we walk is that like that's all Paul's message and cut me off because I like to talk. 229 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,320 No, this is coming off if you need to. 230 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,640 But like that's Paul's message time and time and time again. 231 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,880 It's this is who you are. 232 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,240 Do not be conformed to the patterns of this world. 233 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:20,240 Yeah. 234 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,560 What he's actually saying is do not be what you are not. 235 00:09:22,560 --> 00:09:27,840 But then he says, be transformed by the renewing of your mind through Christ, through his thoughts, 236 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:28,840 all that. 237 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:29,840 Right. 238 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,280 And that word is basically transformed. 239 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,160 Be who you actually are. 240 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:34,800 So now live into who you are. 241 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,680 So it's, I think excellence is flipping this mindset that does. 242 00:09:38,680 --> 00:09:39,680 I need to perform. 243 00:09:39,680 --> 00:09:40,680 I need to do enough. 244 00:09:40,680 --> 00:09:42,720 I need to be enough to know. 245 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,360 I just need to walk in who I already am. 246 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:50,560 The identity Jesus already has inside of me and flow in that every single day. 247 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:53,120 And that's the heart of excellence. 248 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,120 So good. 249 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:55,120 Yeah. 250 00:09:55,120 --> 00:10:00,400 Well, that's like, I like I said it in Josh's episode, but then like I said it, I think 251 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:01,400 I said it. 252 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:02,400 No, no. 253 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:03,400 Yeah. 254 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:04,400 Mike's episode. 255 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:05,400 They know that about that by now. 256 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:06,400 I love Mike. 257 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:07,400 I haven't got to hear it yet. 258 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:08,400 Oh, okay. 259 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:09,400 Okay. 260 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:16,880 And and like all of you guys, like you say something different, but it's all it all lines 261 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:17,880 up. 262 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:18,880 Yeah. 263 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,720 And then there's the other one here, which like it tells me and you guys, like it tells 264 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,960 me that like Shana are in a good circle of people. 265 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:26,960 Hey, come on. 266 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:31,640 Cause like you guys, like you all have a different take on what excellence is, but it all comes 267 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:32,640 from the same source. 268 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:33,640 Yeah. 269 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:34,640 Yeah. 270 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:35,960 And it's all, and it all has the same kind of core. 271 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:36,960 Like you said, the heart. 272 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:37,960 Yeah. 273 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:42,360 And the you have different ways to say it, which I think is awesome because like you 274 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:43,360 say it in a different way. 275 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:48,000 It will, it will line up with different people, different, different people will understand 276 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,040 what Mike Mike said better than I want to pretend. 277 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:52,040 Yeah. 278 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:53,040 Yeah. 279 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:54,040 And same with you. 280 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:55,040 Yeah. 281 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,600 And so like people will probably always understand what Mike says more than what I say because 282 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,600 that man, I love Mike so much. 283 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,040 No, I love that man. 284 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:09,360 And, um, I know you have other questions, but just to kind of elaborate a little bit. 285 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:10,360 Yeah. 286 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:11,360 Yeah. 287 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:12,360 I think to build off of that. 288 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:19,520 If you have that heart, I think that's key then the heart produces, right? 289 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:26,080 And so excellence and excellent heart should produce, I believe some measurable progress 290 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:27,080 in your life. 291 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:28,080 Right? 292 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,640 So I'm not trying to make it all mystical, all impractical. 293 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,640 There are very practical things, but I think one, you start with that heart and then you 294 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:41,480 realize, okay, if I'm really just trying to live into who God has made me to be, and that's 295 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:48,120 the heart, then my life should start to produce fruit that falls into alignment with that. 296 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,840 And so if I'm not seeing that fruit, I want to get back to the heart of the matter. 297 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,600 I want to get back to the root, right? 298 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,000 It's something I think Josh mentioned. 299 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,000 Yeah. 300 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,000 I said the roots. 301 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,000 Yep. 302 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,000 Being the cause of the fruit. 303 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,920 And so if I'm not seeing the fruit, I want to get back to the root and say, okay, why 304 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:02,920 do I not see this? 305 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,700 So you should look at the measurables. 306 00:12:04,700 --> 00:12:08,640 You should look at the practicals, but they're almost the indicators, not the problem. 307 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:09,640 Right. 308 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:10,640 Problem is the heart. 309 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:11,640 And that's good. 310 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,440 And you're going to say, I'm taking notes while you're talking. 311 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:18,320 And I just named the episode, the heart of excellence. 312 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:19,320 The heart of excellence. 313 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:20,320 Boom. 314 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:21,320 There we go. 315 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:22,320 There we go. 316 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,320 It was like, look at Thomas multitasking. 317 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,320 Oh my gosh. 318 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:29,320 This man. 319 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:30,320 Love it. 320 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:31,320 Love it. 321 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:39,240 And with something with growth, I mentioned this pretty much every episode in this series, 322 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:43,680 but I listened to a lot of John Maxwell's podcast, leadership podcast, we've read his 323 00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:45,880 books and I have this leadership Bible right there. 324 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:46,880 Yep. 325 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:47,880 Which is great. 326 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,240 And I'm looking at it. 327 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:52,240 He does in fact, it's confirmed. 328 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:53,240 It's on the table. 329 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:59,800 And John Maxwell, a couple of different things that he said about excellence are kind of 330 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:04,960 floating around in my mind, but the one that's standing out right now is like, excellence 331 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,640 is, sorry, I throw this going all weird. 332 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:09,640 It happens, man. 333 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,960 Couple of things. 334 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,400 Excellence is exceeding expectations. 335 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,800 And in order to know what those expect, in order to exceed the expectations, you have 336 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:19,800 to know what they are. 337 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:20,800 Yeah. 338 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:26,840 So in the way that you talked about excellence, like, and I, you say you want to go for what 339 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,040 Jesus is calling you to. 340 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:30,040 Yeah. 341 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,400 So in this aspect, I don't know, I, I, right off the top of my head, I don't know the answer 342 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:34,400 to this. 343 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:35,400 I'm going to ask. 344 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:39,320 Like, what would be in that case, is there an answer to that question to like, what are 345 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:40,320 the expectations? 346 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,880 Um, this is a great question. 347 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:43,880 I think yes. 348 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:48,200 And I think it's a spectrum of how practical. 349 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:49,200 Okay. 350 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:53,920 A lot of this might seem ambiguous, but again, getting to the heart, but then also measurables. 351 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:54,920 Right. 352 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:56,360 So let's answer twofold. 353 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:00,600 First off, I think there are some clear metrics we can look at. 354 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,720 First Corinthians 13, right? 355 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,240 If you do everything in your life, you achieve all sorts of things. 356 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:13,000 You attain all the fame, all the glamor, all the glory, but you don't love people and the 357 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,400 process that's not an excellent life. 358 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,080 It's a life that missed the mark. 359 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:18,080 Right. 360 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:22,600 And so if I can look back on my day and I can say, Oh, I checked my to-do list. 361 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,000 I did all these things. 362 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:28,480 Um, yes, I actually have a to-do list that surprises people cause I'm not that organized. 363 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:34,520 Um, but if I look back and I said, I did all the things, but I didn't love anybody and 364 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,360 I didn't care about anybody. 365 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,400 And I didn't really shine the light of Christ to anybody. 366 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:40,680 Have I really succeeded? 367 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,120 Have I really lived that day? 368 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:43,120 Excellently. 369 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:44,120 I don't think so. 370 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:45,120 Right. 371 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:46,120 So I think that's a metric. 372 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:47,120 Yeah. 373 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:51,760 I think, um, if we look and you just get in, you mentioned you have this Bible sitting 374 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:52,760 here, right? 375 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,760 And you get into the word and you say, Oh my gosh, as a believer, I'm not supposed to 376 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,040 gossip about people. 377 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,040 Yeah. 378 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:00,040 Right. 379 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:05,600 But I realized every single day of my life in subtle ways, I'm gossiping or, Oh, my speech 380 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:06,840 is not above reproach. 381 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:11,720 Like little things as you get in God's word, you can say, really it's laying out for you. 382 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,960 Hey, this is what a life of excellence looks like. 383 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:14,960 Why? 384 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,440 It's a life of sanctification and it's not, Oh, I've arrived and it's not, Oh, I'm not 385 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,560 going to mess up, but it is, Oh, this is what I get to walk it. 386 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,640 And this is what an excellent life looks like. 387 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:25,640 Yeah. 388 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:26,640 Does that make sense? 389 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,800 I think it is kind of outlined for us. 390 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:29,800 Yeah. 391 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,320 Some of it in more practical and some in more kind of intangible ways. 392 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:38,400 I think that's one thing that people like people that like, I don't mean this to attack 393 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:39,400 anybody. 394 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:44,160 I think it's just like, I used to be like this, like if you don't know what the Bible 395 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:48,400 is, like you don't know that there is, and like you just have this, Oh, it's just this 396 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:53,040 thing that like religious people use and like, and like, and they don't know what's actually 397 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,040 in there. 398 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:55,800 Cause I'm like, I'm working on reading through the whole thing right now. 399 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:56,800 There's things in there. 400 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,760 I'm like, yeah, I was like, I like, especially with this version of the, with this, uh, with 401 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,480 John Maxwell's comments in there, talking about leadership and like, it's like, wow, 402 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:11,240 I would never like thought about like Nathan and King David and like Nathan who like led 403 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,800 David while he was the king. 404 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,760 And like, well, important for our role, like we play in each other's lives. 405 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,320 And that's like, you said that's laid out for us in the Bible. 406 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,960 And I, um, as he talks about things like the interserval. 407 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:24,960 Yeah, that's good. 408 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:31,160 And like, it's like, it's hard, like sometimes like you can get like into part books, like 409 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:35,760 numbers and it can be really dry and you're like, man, okay, I'm done. 410 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:40,240 But like, dude, that's my favorite book. 411 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,760 I get it. 412 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,400 That's good. 413 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:45,520 Oh yeah. 414 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:51,400 So, um, I guess my question for you would be, how do you laying out excellence in your 415 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:55,720 daily life, but also how are you leading the next generation? 416 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,880 Oh, excellence. 417 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,120 That's that's a big two parter. 418 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,680 I like that, Shawn. 419 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:07,360 Um, I think that in my own life, and we've talked about this a good bit and we were actually 420 00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:09,160 in dive into this today. 421 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:13,840 Um, but I try to just develop some disciplines in my life. 422 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:18,120 I think if you want to live a life again, you have to have the heart of excellence, 423 00:17:18,120 --> 00:17:22,360 but then if you want to see the fruit of excellence, you needed to develop disciplines in your 424 00:17:22,360 --> 00:17:27,200 daily life that you can go back to and you can say, okay, practically speaking, have 425 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,440 I, have I accomplished the things that I'm setting out to, like you said, you need to 426 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,080 have a goal that you're trying to hit. 427 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:33,080 Right. 428 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,920 And so of course, take that back, make sure it's a healthy goal in line with the heart, 429 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:37,920 all that. 430 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:42,720 But then there is a very practical reality to just go do it, just go get it done. 431 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:43,720 Right. 432 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:48,720 And so I've realized that I've been so surprised in my life, I've used the excuse so much 433 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,960 like, Oh, I would, but I don't have time. 434 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:57,160 And I realized whenever you just stop telling yourself that, and you actually just say, 435 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:02,720 I have to get this done, how you will make time for what's important, you know? 436 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,840 And so the amount that you're actually able to accomplish fit in a day is actually kind 437 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:07,840 of mind blowing. 438 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,920 If you stay disciplined and you say, so practicals, right? 439 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:16,040 Last year I started just going to the gym and I didn't think I could do it because I 440 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:21,240 was like, that's multiple hours a day between driving, getting there, actually working out. 441 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,200 I was not in good shape at the time. 442 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:29,160 I was like, this, it might kill me, you know, like this might be the enemy, but I just said, 443 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:30,160 okay, you know what? 444 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:31,160 It's important. 445 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:32,160 I'm going to make time. 446 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:39,480 And it's amazing how you're actually, your, your time is freed up and then you realize, 447 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,160 I'm actually able to do other stuff while I'm at the gym, right? 448 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:47,340 Between sets, maybe in like, if you use time and steward time well, it's amazing the disciplines 449 00:18:47,340 --> 00:18:48,800 you can develop within your day. 450 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,320 So I think you need to fall back. 451 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:54,800 Um, Craig Grishel says, you don't rise to the level of your dreams. 452 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,440 You fall to the level of your disciplines. 453 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:57,440 Right? 454 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,800 And so it's good to dream, but then it's necessary to put disciplines in place to arrive at the 455 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:02,800 dream. 456 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:03,800 Right? 457 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:09,200 And so making sure you prioritize the dreams every single day and you walk in this part 458 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,800 or two of your question, let's go. 459 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:17,440 And I think this is probably not just for next gen, but just how do you teach this in 460 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:18,440 general? 461 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:19,440 One, I'm not perfect at this. 462 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,200 So like, I don't want people to look at me. 463 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:22,200 I fall. 464 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:27,760 I made mistakes, but I do think there's something to first off, just being authentic, right? 465 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:28,760 Owning that upfront. 466 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:29,760 Like I'm not perfect. 467 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:34,400 I will screw up being authentic, genuinely caring about others, right? 468 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,680 Before people would care much, you know, they want to know how much you care. 469 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:38,680 Right? 470 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,200 And then showing them, Hey, I care about you. 471 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:41,200 I love you. 472 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:45,280 And then if people are willing, go on a journey with them, right? 473 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:46,280 Hold each other accountable. 474 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:52,080 Um, I've had so many next gen people like Solomon Cole, shout out Solomon. 475 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:53,080 Right? 476 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,880 Um, wax on wax off, wax on wax off podcast. 477 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:01,640 Like he and I for years have we've done Bible journeys together. 478 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,360 We've done fitness things together. 479 00:20:03,360 --> 00:20:07,080 We've done all sorts of challenges with one another, just holding each other accountable 480 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,080 to live and to be all that we're created to be. 481 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,800 And it's not in this toxic way. 482 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,640 That's like, Oh, you're not good enough and you need to do this. 483 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,840 It's like, no, no, no, there's gold in you. 484 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:17,840 Right? 485 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:18,960 Like, and let's pull that out. 486 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,240 So I think starting with what do you see in somebody else? 487 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:23,240 Right? 488 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,160 If you see gold, say the gold. 489 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:26,160 Yeah. 490 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:27,680 If you see, Hey, this is inside of you. 491 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:28,840 It might feel awkward. 492 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:34,200 You know, I've done this from a stage in the middle of messages where you just stop the 493 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:39,160 message and you're like, Hey, I feel like I need to tell you this is inside of you. 494 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,160 And it feels really uncomfortable. 495 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:44,360 And I think it's supposed to, but because it pulls you outside of your own head and 496 00:20:44,360 --> 00:20:47,720 your own comfort zone and you, you're transparent, you're honest. 497 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,160 And you say, this is in you. 498 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,120 And then you walk with them, you know, what's this mean? 499 00:20:52,120 --> 00:20:54,560 And um, you just start to explore that. 500 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:55,560 Does that answer? 501 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:56,560 Wow. 502 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:57,560 That was good. 503 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:58,560 Yeah. 504 00:20:58,560 --> 00:20:59,560 Yeah, definitely. 505 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:00,560 Am I answering too long? 506 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,960 No, because that countdown is clicking away over there. 507 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:08,920 For those who can't see, which I guess is everyone, Thomas has this beautiful countdown 508 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:14,040 on the television for how long I'm allowed to talk, you know, and we're dangerously 509 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,040 close. 510 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:16,040 So, so what else boys? 511 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:17,040 I'm sorry. 512 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,040 No worries. 513 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,040 Don't worry. 514 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,040 Well, we'll see. 515 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,040 I think my phone's okay. 516 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:29,400 We were talking about earlier, like if I might die, but yeah, we'll see what happens. 517 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,640 If you just stop for animal, that's why. 518 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,600 But um, where are we at? 519 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:34,600 What percent? 520 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:35,600 Oh, 38. 521 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:36,600 Oh, we're chilling. 522 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,600 The moon has blessed us. 523 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:40,600 Okay. 524 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,600 We started out with 43. 525 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,680 Yeah, we're chilling. 526 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:46,680 Okay. 527 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:51,360 Um, one thing you mentioned earlier, and like you actually, I wrote some things down and 528 00:21:51,360 --> 00:21:54,720 like you already started and you actually went into them as you talked about your, the 529 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,760 things that you're doing and like, uh, with Solomon too. 530 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:58,760 Yeah. 531 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,400 So you mentioned one thing in the first part of your question, uh, the first part of the 532 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:07,440 question that Shawn asked and you, um, you mentioned Greg, Greg Rochelle's, it was like 533 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,400 his rendition of the one saying, I've heard so many renditions of that same one and they're 534 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:12,400 all good. 535 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,880 Like the one I've heard, I've heard them those says you don't rise to the occasion. 536 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,880 You fall to the level of your training. 537 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:17,880 Yeah. 538 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:18,880 Yeah. 539 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,960 And like, um, and I think like it's like the same, like it's the same idea. 540 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,800 Like maybe you write like people, that's a lot of things that people say, like whenever 541 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:30,400 you, whenever you use people think like, okay, whenever the hard times come, you'll rise 542 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:31,400 to the occasion. 543 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,360 But if you're not already prepared for that, if you're not already prepared before the 544 00:22:34,360 --> 00:22:37,360 occasion comes, then you're just going to be able to do what you're already prepared 545 00:22:37,360 --> 00:22:38,360 to do. 546 00:22:38,360 --> 00:22:39,360 Wow. 547 00:22:39,360 --> 00:22:40,360 Wow. 548 00:22:40,360 --> 00:22:41,360 That's good. 549 00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:42,360 That's really good. 550 00:22:42,360 --> 00:22:44,840 And so like, I feel like right now what you're doing and like something I, I tried to do 551 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:49,600 also, and I feel like everybody should have an aspect of this in their lives, like working 552 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:55,840 on some area of growth in your life so that like, even if you might not need it right 553 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,840 now, like it's like concept, I think I've heard it in a movie, like some kid movie. 554 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:04,000 It's like, it's better that have it and not need it and need it and uh, need it and not 555 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,000 have it. 556 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,000 Yeah. 557 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,000 Yeah. 558 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,000 And I might be rambling. 559 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,160 I think I like to ramble a lot, but I love that. 560 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:15,360 But like the, I don't know, man, like I, I, I just like, I think, I think about all that 561 00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:16,360 a lot. 562 00:23:16,360 --> 00:23:17,360 I don't know. 563 00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:18,360 I think about that, that aspect all the time. 564 00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:19,360 Yeah. 565 00:23:19,360 --> 00:23:23,440 And I think like that's part of the reason why I'm like, I'm so gung ho on like personal 566 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,400 growth and development and why, and why this topic even came up. 567 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:28,400 Yeah. 568 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:29,400 Yeah. 569 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,800 It was because like, like I mentioned this on the podcast, Michaela's episode, but like 570 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,800 God just downloaded it into my brain on Sunday. 571 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:34,800 Yeah. 572 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,560 And I was like, I was like, well, everyone else was worshiping. 573 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:38,920 I was scribbling in my notebook. 574 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:39,920 I love that. 575 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,640 And I was like writing down like just what excellence is and who God is with excellence. 576 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,360 And like, like it was, um, and I know there's a reason for that. 577 00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:49,480 And like this whole thing came out of that one moment. 578 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:50,480 Yeah. 579 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,120 It's like the last eight or so episodes. 580 00:23:52,120 --> 00:23:53,120 Yeah. 581 00:23:53,120 --> 00:23:56,120 And like, um, hopefully it happens again. 582 00:23:56,120 --> 00:24:01,000 But like, let me go into like, there's one question. 583 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,600 Um, and this one, this one, and you can go as personal as you want with this. 584 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:05,600 Oh boy. 585 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:10,360 So like with like excellence is continuous growth. 586 00:24:10,360 --> 00:24:12,840 That's one thing that I was talking about with this also. 587 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:13,840 Sure. 588 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:14,840 Sure. 589 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,640 And like, like, and with growth and excellence comes sacrifice. 590 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:17,640 Yeah. 591 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:18,640 Yeah. 592 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,760 And so like, what is something that you've had to give up in order to experience the growth? 593 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:23,760 I like that question. 594 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,760 I like that a lot. 595 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:31,320 Um, I think for me, and I think it's different for everybody, although this one to a degree, 596 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:38,880 I think probably needs to be for everybody is I had to really stop caring what a lot 597 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:45,800 of people, and I think it's really, we become the sum of our friends, right? 598 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:52,280 So the reality is if you want to continually grow, like you're saying, what does that mean? 599 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,800 It also means that everyone may not be on that same journey, right? 600 00:24:54,800 --> 00:25:01,160 And it might mean that you need to be willing to say, Hey, in this season, I'm going to 601 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,760 be really picky about whose opinions I care about. 602 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:09,080 And so you've hit on this in previous episodes, but I don't know that we've ever really gone 603 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:13,920 super deep, but the idea, you've definitely mentioned this inner circle, outer circle, 604 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:14,920 right? 605 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,680 And I had to be really intentional. 606 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:21,720 And this was for me, like in high school of, okay, if I want to grow into everything, I 607 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:26,080 believe I'm called to be, which by the way, we never arrive still growing, right? 608 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,440 And we should, um, I need to almost, and this is how my brain works. 609 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:31,440 It's weird. 610 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:36,040 I need to almost set up like a board of advisors for my life, right? 611 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:42,200 Where Hey, these select individuals who I know, who I trust, who have been consistent 612 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,080 and loyal and faithful, and I respect them. 613 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,600 I look up to them like they can speak into my life and I'm going to take their opinion 614 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,080 really seriously and I'm going to care a lot. 615 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,280 And if you're not one of those people, then it's almost like, I want to hear, I want to 616 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,640 learn, I want to grow, but it doesn't carry the same authority and the same impact and 617 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,040 influence in my life. 618 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:07,040 And so if I am believing, Hey, this is what I'm supposed to do. 619 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,720 This is what I'm called to do. 620 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,840 And some ordinary person comes up and they bash it. 621 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,160 I don't really care if one of those people comes up, right? 622 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,920 I'll say like Jason, I'll be pastor, right? 623 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,400 Like he'd be in that, right? 624 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,120 Jason and not the people I don't care about the people I do. 625 00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:23,120 Right. 626 00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:25,960 If he came up and he was like, Hey dude, like this isn't good. 627 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,200 I'd be like, Oh, why tell me, right? 628 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:34,800 Like I want to know, but that's hard to do because it means you need to sacrifice caring 629 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,600 about everybody's opinion about you. 630 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:44,480 And I read this also in a Craig Grashell book, but he basically writes about how your character 631 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,120 matters a lot more than reputation. 632 00:26:46,120 --> 00:26:49,240 And so many of us, we spend our lives trying to build a reputation. 633 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,080 In other words, what does everybody think about me? 634 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,080 What's my image? 635 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:54,280 What's my perception? 636 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,600 What's this person thinking on my Instagram and this person on my Tik Tok and all of this? 637 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:03,040 And he basically says, if we would focus more on a few people and their voices who will 638 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:08,600 help us build character, we have a lot better off, a heck of a lot healthier and we'll actually 639 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,080 grow into who we're called to be. 640 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,080 No, that's really good. 641 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,200 Like that's focusing on the internal versus the external. 642 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,200 Yeah. 643 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,200 And it's like you work, you would do the inside work before like an inside work will come 644 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,200 out, will come out. 645 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,080 Like it will like feel like you don't have to worry about your reputation if you're worrying 646 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,640 about your character because your reputation will follow suit. 647 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:27,640 Yeah. 648 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:28,640 Yeah. 649 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:33,320 And I don't know, I think and whatever, I don't know what to say next. 650 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:34,960 So Shawn, did you have something? 651 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:35,960 Oh man. 652 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,640 Yeah, I was just pondering on it. 653 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,600 I was like thinking about what do you sacrifice? 654 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:43,600 Right. 655 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:49,040 And to be excellent, I feel like you have to sacrifice so much that like for one, you 656 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,800 have to like, I love what you said. 657 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:56,600 Like you have to worry about like nobody's besides your circles opinion of yourself. 658 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:57,600 Right. 659 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:03,240 And I also think it's like you also have to like sacrifice like how you're going to look 660 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:10,920 to people, but you also sacrifice in your body, like your pride, your ambition, your 661 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,960 things that were not going to help you grow. 662 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,000 Like you're just going to sacrifice all those. 663 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:21,840 So like I would say like on a practical level, what does that look like for a person to just 664 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:28,880 like, you know what, I'm going to sacrifice my pride, my ego, my ambition so I can, you 665 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:29,880 know, like, 666 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,240 Yeah, dude, that's a great question. 667 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:38,440 Honestly, I think Romans 12 says, I think it's Romans 12. 668 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:45,720 Someone can smack talk me in the comments, but it says offer your bodies as living sacrifices. 669 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:50,000 In other words, offer everything to God, sacrifice everything to God. 670 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:55,360 So coming from maybe more of the Christian angle on this, right? 671 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,080 When you say what's one thing you have to sacrifice really to walk in excellence, I 672 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,560 would say the one thing is everything. 673 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:01,560 Right. 674 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:07,440 If you want to walk in kingdom excellence, excellence that is not just I want to achieve 675 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,160 one particular goal, but excellence that is I want to impact eternity. 676 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,160 Right. 677 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,400 I want to lead people to him with my whole life. 678 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,600 I want to walk every day with him and intimacy. 679 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,640 Really I guess the answer to your question is, it's not just one thing, it's everything. 680 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:28,080 And in that process, what are we within living sacrifices, living the full life God has for 681 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,080 us. 682 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,760 And so it sounds counterintuitive, but it's really beautiful. 683 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:36,120 We find true life whenever we offer our lives completely to him. 684 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:41,860 And so I would say maybe actually you're spot on Shawn, which is the key to actual excellence 685 00:29:41,860 --> 00:29:47,100 is total surrender, total sacrifice, total giving up my will. 686 00:29:47,100 --> 00:29:51,000 My goals, my agenda to just, okay, Lord, what do you want to do? 687 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,960 You know, how do you want to speak? 688 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,360 And you guys know, I obsess over this, this idea of eternity. 689 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:58,360 Yeah. 690 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,920 I actually believe in that and I actually believe that Jesus is who he says that he 691 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:07,800 is then my goodness, he's worth everything for this little blob of time we have here, 692 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,920 you know, like this is a, it's here to they got tomorrow. 693 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:16,400 It's a vapor, you know, but if I can sacrifice to live a life of excellence that leads people 694 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,360 to him, that's worth it in the end. 695 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,360 Yeah. 696 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:20,360 That's good. 697 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,360 Like it has to think about it more. 698 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,360 Yeah. 699 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:25,360 I'm sorry. 700 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:26,360 I blanked, but you're good. 701 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:27,360 You're good. 702 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,360 I took you down a little bunny path there. 703 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:31,360 I'm sorry. 704 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:32,360 I'm sorry. 705 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,000 That's what we are here for. 706 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,040 No complete surrender, man. 707 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:42,400 Like it's that's one thing I'm going to say one thing that I have some ending questions. 708 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:43,400 Sure. 709 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:48,240 Like you mentioned about complete surrender, I think, I think it was, I think it was in 710 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:54,960 Mike one of Mike's episodes, um, part one, I don't remember which part, but, uh, maybe, 711 00:30:54,960 --> 00:31:02,080 but like, uh, we mentioned about like, you can't, if you're striving or seeking to be 712 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,360 as excellent as you can be, but you never actually reached that pinnacle point because 713 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:07,720 it's like, God is excellent. 714 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:08,720 God is excellence. 715 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:09,720 Yeah. 716 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:14,520 Like, and with surrendering all those things to surrender, trying to completely surrender 717 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:15,920 yourself to God. 718 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:16,920 Yeah. 719 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:23,280 Like, like for us being such imperfect beings, and this is series called perfectly imperfect. 720 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:24,280 Yeah. 721 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,600 Like we're imperfect beings. 722 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:26,920 So is it actually possible? 723 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:35,720 If it is it possible for us to give literally everything to God or like as we, but, or yes, 724 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:40,280 continuously like giving things to God that we realize and then like, okay, now I get 725 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:41,280 this guy better. 726 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,280 Always. 727 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,520 So my mind always like, man, it's always something to weed out. 728 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,920 Oh dude, I, I would, I would agree with that. 729 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:57,840 I think that probably the better way to describe what I mean by that is live, live with an 730 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:58,840 open handed posture. 731 00:31:58,840 --> 00:31:59,840 Yeah. 732 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,000 It's like Lord, I'm all yours. 733 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:06,360 Now when we get nitty gritty, what does that look like we're so complicated. 734 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:07,360 Yeah. 735 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:13,360 And that's why sanctification is something, which is a fancy word for day by day. 736 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:14,960 I look more and more like Jesus. 737 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,160 Why I identify areas, right? 738 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:22,280 And I'm like, I'll probably look back tomorrow on today and be like, I didn't even realize 739 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,120 that at the time, but God, I need to give this to you. 740 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,120 Yeah. 741 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:27,120 Right. 742 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,120 So it is, you're right. 743 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,120 It's, it's both. 744 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:33,680 It's a decision to say, God, I'm fully yours and as I see things, I'm going to hand them 745 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:34,680 off to you. 746 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,480 But then also understanding, I don't fully know what all those are. 747 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:38,480 Yeah. 748 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,240 And as I see them, I'm going to hand them off to you. 749 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,240 That's beautiful. 750 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,240 That's a really good point, dude. 751 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,240 That's a really good point. 752 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:44,240 Thank you. 753 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,240 Yeah. 754 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:50,760 It's something like, especially for this, hopefully this podcast is reaching more people 755 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:56,160 that not just people of faith, but also people that, and I like to make sure we expand on 756 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,160 things more. 757 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,160 Yeah. 758 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:03,000 I mean, I think about it from a perspective of some, like who I used to be, like, if I 759 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,360 would have heard that, I'm like, well, like Brennan's weird. 760 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:08,360 Yeah. 761 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,360 So it's just like, yeah. 762 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,400 Obviously, you know, like it wasn't me trying to come at you or anything. 763 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:15,400 It was like, let's expand. 764 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:16,400 Yeah. 765 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,720 But yeah, no, I love that. 766 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:19,720 That's really good. 767 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,240 No, I love that, man. 768 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:28,520 I think that excellence and walking in excellence is something that we discover more and more 769 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:29,520 every single day. 770 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:30,520 Right. 771 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:35,640 You know, and for anybody listening, any belief, any no belief, whatever, you know, whatever 772 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:40,560 you would say that you are, man, you can, you can still choose every single day that, 773 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:47,960 Hey, I want to, you know, continually improve, continually grow, set those disciplines, develop 774 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,760 who you are, have good voices in your life. 775 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,200 Like a lot of this is still a hundred percent of, yeah. 776 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,640 And that's one thing I hope, I hope like people that are listening right now have understood 777 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,840 so far and this whole series that everything, even though every person like had brought 778 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:07,280 up God and had brought up faith and God always comes up in our conversations. 779 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:08,280 Yeah. 780 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,040 Like this is strictly a podcast for everybody. 781 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,040 Yeah. 782 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,480 And like everything we've talked about, even though we bring up God and maybe you don't 783 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:20,120 believe in God, everything we're saying is like, Brennan said, practically applicable 784 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,120 to your life. 785 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,120 Yeah. 786 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,120 Yeah. 787 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,400 And you don't have to believe in God for that to be true. 788 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:26,400 Yeah. 789 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:27,400 Yeah. 790 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,840 But with that final, final thing, I have like some final questions just like we'll just 791 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:38,080 wrap it up and you might know what these questions are, but the, but when it comes to personal 792 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:42,760 growth, what are some, like some of the top resources you could recommend to people? 793 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,000 Oh, that's a great question. 794 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,400 I actually didn't prep for this. 795 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:51,480 I was like, shut up cause I've listened to your episode. 796 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:57,880 When it comes to personal growth, man, I think community, I know that's not a physical put 797 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:02,240 in your hands book or anything, but I think community is so important. 798 00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:08,200 If you, if you really want to strive to be more than you currently are, surround yourself 799 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:13,840 with those types of people, you know, and you'll notice you naturally start to become 800 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,720 like them, you naturally start to glean things from them. 801 00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:17,720 You make each other better. 802 00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:19,680 So like surround yourself with those types of people. 803 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:25,120 I think a lot of the people we've mentioned, like Craig Grishel, like John Maxwell, I would 804 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:32,280 just kind of all in all recommend any of their books, you know, I think those are all solid. 805 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:38,620 I think if you're looking for different resources, this is great, right? 806 00:35:38,620 --> 00:35:39,620 This pod right here. 807 00:35:39,620 --> 00:35:46,440 Like this is amazing and I love you guys and again, honored to be here, but I think check 808 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:47,440 that out. 809 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,480 Craig Grishel also has a leadership podcast, like all those guys who we kind of mentioned, 810 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,400 this guy named Patrick Lencioni. 811 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,120 I don't know if you've heard of him. 812 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,840 I feel like I have. 813 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,960 He wrote the five dysfunctions of a team. 814 00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:01,760 He's got a ton of great resources as well. 815 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,240 What was his last name? 816 00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:08,400 I think it's Lencioni, but I, again, I should have prepped for this. 817 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:13,920 We can do a quick fact check on her, but like he's really awesome. 818 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,320 So I think things like that get good voices in your life. 819 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,040 And yeah, it is that I was correct. 820 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,040 Wow. 821 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,040 Sigh of relief. 822 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:28,440 So I think like what you said, like all kinds of like lines up, like you said community, 823 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,720 but then it's like, it's the voices are pouring into your life. 824 00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:33,520 That voice can be from a podcast. 825 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:34,520 Yeah. 826 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:35,520 Yeah. 827 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,800 Of course you like, you want to get those people around you that are actual physical 828 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,120 people around you. 829 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,120 Yeah. 830 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,120 But you're not always around those people. 831 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,120 Well, yeah. 832 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,160 And a lot of people just learn and glean differently too. 833 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:51,200 And a lot of people might be very, very, they could be listening to this and given different 834 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,000 things in their life that have happened, they don't want to go out. 835 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,000 They don't want to meet people. 836 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,760 They're not in that place. 837 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,000 So baby step it. 838 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,000 Yeah. 839 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,000 Right. 840 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,640 And start inputting things where you don't need to go out, but you're starting to get 841 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:04,640 connected. 842 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:05,640 Yeah. 843 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:06,640 Wow. 844 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:07,640 That's so good. 845 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:08,640 Yeah. 846 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:16,160 So mentor, who would you like to be on the next episode of podcast? 847 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,600 I did think about this one and I feel strongly about it. 848 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:20,600 Okay. 849 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:21,720 I'm actually not even sure. 850 00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:23,400 You may have recorded with her already. 851 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:24,400 Izzy. 852 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,520 Ah, Izzy is my nominee. 853 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:32,480 I think Izzy would be brilliant and she's so fun and so wise and I love her. 854 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,000 So we have, we have talked to her about it. 855 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,000 Okay. 856 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,000 She's very busy. 857 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,240 So she's like, she's like, she's like maybe sometime next year. 858 00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:42,960 Izzy, let me put some pressure on sis. 859 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:43,960 Okay. 860 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:44,960 It's a fun time. 861 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:45,960 You guys can make it. 862 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:46,960 So she walks in and records walks out. 863 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:47,960 Yeah. 864 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:48,960 Right. 865 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:49,960 Come on. 866 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:50,960 We're just gonna have to do it. 867 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:51,960 I can't. 868 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:52,960 30 minutes. 869 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:53,960 Izzy they'll pay ya. 870 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:54,960 No, I'm kidding. 871 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:55,960 No, she'll say yes. 872 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:56,960 She'd be amazing. 873 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:57,960 Either way, we love you Izzy. 874 00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:58,960 Oh, that's awesome. 875 00:37:58,960 --> 00:37:59,960 That's great. 876 00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:02,960 Um, well, well man, thank you for being on the podcast, Brandon. 877 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:03,960 Yeah. 878 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:04,960 This is the truth. 879 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,960 This was great. 880 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:12,360 It was a lot of fun and I guys, I hope you like this episode. 881 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,640 Thank you for listening to the whole thing. 882 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,040 Make sure you give us five stars. 883 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,040 Five stars only. 884 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,040 Yes. 885 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,040 Five star review. 886 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:24,400 Like you heard me say before, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything 887 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:25,400 at all. 888 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:26,400 Come on. 889 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:27,400 There you go. 890 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,880 And there's the, and yeah, you can share it out on all your socials. 891 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:30,880 Whatever you can do. 892 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:35,800 If you guys haven't already subscribed and you're listening to some episodes, definitely 893 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:40,720 subscribe, follow whatever it is on whatever platform you're on and subscribe to who needs 894 00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:42,160 a name with PB and J. 895 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,240 Here we go. 896 00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:44,240 Thank you. 897 00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:45,240 I love you guys and I'm really proud of you. 898 00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:46,240 It was an honor to do this. 899 00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:47,240 You're amazing. 900 00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:48,240 Thank you. 901 00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:49,240 Thank you. 902 00:38:49,240 --> 00:38:50,240 And save Josh. 903 00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:51,240 Hashtag save Josh. 904 00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:52,240 We don't want to get shot with the Nerf gun. 905 00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:53,240 What? 906 00:38:53,240 --> 00:38:54,240 That was so random. 907 00:38:54,240 --> 00:38:55,240 And cut. 908 00:38:55,240 --> 00:38:56,240 Alright guys, see you next time. 909 00:38:56,240 --> 00:39:05,240 In starspedals we thank Jamie Wite, Patrick Potty, and Michael princess.