1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,080 All right, welcome to this episode of technically short this is well, let's part two of 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,360 the perfectly imperfect series and 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:15,380 Just like last episode last week. We had a guest and this week we have 4 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:22,920 Josh Bailog what's going on guys? What an honor to be on technically. Thank you for having me on guys 5 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:28,580 It's gonna be an amazing episode. You guys are gonna be so excited and I'm glad that he's here 6 00:00:28,580 --> 00:00:30,580 Yeah 7 00:00:31,100 --> 00:00:33,100 So the way we typically like to 8 00:00:33,740 --> 00:00:39,320 Whatever we talked to it whenever you have guests on even especially for what we've only ever had guests on for the first time 9 00:00:39,420 --> 00:00:45,380 But we typically like to start with some exaltation. Okay, that's a big word. I don't know that means 10 00:00:48,460 --> 00:00:50,300 Exhausting like 11 00:00:50,300 --> 00:00:51,740 giving 12 00:00:51,740 --> 00:00:53,740 some things that lift up and 13 00:00:53,740 --> 00:00:58,900 How we perceive you how we perceive your person how you to be. Oh, that's so kind 14 00:00:59,900 --> 00:01:01,900 so words of affirmation 15 00:01:04,300 --> 00:01:07,020 Amazing should be like a guest 16 00:01:07,980 --> 00:01:09,980 my goodness, um 17 00:01:10,540 --> 00:01:11,580 but yeah, so 18 00:01:11,580 --> 00:01:12,500 I 19 00:01:12,500 --> 00:01:17,540 The way I do is is I just think of like three words that pop in my head first 20 00:01:17,540 --> 00:01:23,300 Mm, whenever I think of whoever having and with you the first word that popped in with welcoming 21 00:01:23,300 --> 00:01:29,340 Mm, and then it was high energy and leader. Wow, so welcoming welcoming high-energy leader 22 00:01:29,340 --> 00:01:32,140 It's what popped in my head whenever I think Josh it 23 00:01:32,660 --> 00:01:34,660 Thank you 24 00:01:34,860 --> 00:01:41,680 From what I think about Josh, I think of a servant leader. I think loving very loving funny 25 00:01:42,380 --> 00:01:44,380 athletic 26 00:01:44,380 --> 00:01:49,180 Just all around a good person. Oh shots guys you guys sir 27 00:01:49,860 --> 00:01:51,620 Wow 28 00:01:51,620 --> 00:01:52,980 expecting this 29 00:01:52,980 --> 00:01:54,980 Yeah 30 00:01:55,020 --> 00:01:58,860 You're a good guy. Oh, thank you. I try my best, you know 31 00:01:59,500 --> 00:02:00,540 um 32 00:02:00,540 --> 00:02:04,420 So as we get in like the like, you know, this is a series on 33 00:02:05,620 --> 00:02:07,340 on excellence 34 00:02:07,340 --> 00:02:12,980 But before we dive into that you so for the people who may not know you that well 35 00:02:12,980 --> 00:02:20,860 Why don't you give a quick like 30 60 second intro 30 60 second intro? Okay. Well, like they said, my name is Josh 36 00:02:20,860 --> 00:02:22,460 I 37 00:02:22,460 --> 00:02:27,900 Am I don't know current? I don't know how to really describe myself right now within the church 38 00:02:27,900 --> 00:02:32,180 I run I oversee our middle school ministry junior. I 39 00:02:33,100 --> 00:02:35,540 Part of inspired collective shot. I see 40 00:02:36,700 --> 00:02:38,700 I'm 22 years old. I 41 00:02:38,940 --> 00:02:40,940 Don't know I 42 00:02:40,940 --> 00:02:46,180 Don't really know how to describe myself. I just like doing a whole bunch of things like I do have my own podcast 43 00:02:46,180 --> 00:02:50,460 I just love like hanging out with people love being in the house of the Lord 44 00:02:50,460 --> 00:02:52,540 You know shout out who needs a name? 45 00:02:53,140 --> 00:02:57,220 Shout out who needs a name, you know PB and J if you know, you know, but um 46 00:02:58,020 --> 00:03:03,340 Yeah, I mean you guys I mean I'm I've always at the church with you guys doing stuff 47 00:03:04,340 --> 00:03:09,580 Yeah, I like working out love food love food fun fact. I'm colorblind 48 00:03:09,580 --> 00:03:13,020 I don't know if you guys knew that I do not know that yeah, I heard about that once 49 00:03:13,020 --> 00:03:15,020 It's a rumor, but the rumors true 50 00:03:17,820 --> 00:03:24,380 Yeah, I think that's six will call that 60 seconds. Yeah. No, no, that's awesome. And yeah, that's a fun fact 51 00:03:24,380 --> 00:03:26,740 I know. Yeah red green, baby 52 00:03:29,940 --> 00:03:33,340 So as we move into the topic of excellence 53 00:03:34,020 --> 00:03:36,780 This is this is a vague vague, you know 54 00:03:36,780 --> 00:03:39,940 Open-ended question and it's meant to be okay 55 00:03:40,660 --> 00:03:43,580 But from your own perception, what is excellence? Oh 56 00:03:44,380 --> 00:03:46,380 That is so vague and broad 57 00:03:47,300 --> 00:03:53,660 But I love it because there's that leave so much room for interpretation. Yep. So to me excellence is 58 00:03:54,580 --> 00:04:01,600 Hmm. So in order to have excellence you need to have some sort of I don't want to say standard 59 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:07,440 But like you need to have a good goal because excellence is a is a sense of achieving something 60 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,880 Yeah, and kind of the nothing the absolutely best way pops possible 61 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,200 but in an extremely like good way, right and 62 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:21,080 I've come off come off. I've came a long way from having a performance mindset 63 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:28,880 Yeah, and so having that switch but still striving for excellence. Yeah has been kind of difficult to navigate 64 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,040 but to me excellence is doing something that I 65 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:38,960 Set out to do to my best ability giving it my all making sure I do it with a loving heart 66 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,440 make sure I use wisdom I use all my knowledge and 67 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:49,320 Yeah, just giving it my best ability not saying oh why didn't I did X amount and I needed five more 68 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:50,640 It's like I that wasn't that clean 69 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:56,460 But I get if I give him my all and I try my best and I do it with the love of Jesus 70 00:04:56,460 --> 00:05:03,420 Yeah, that's excellence to me. That's good. Yeah, even if you fail even if I fail, there's always a lesson in the failure 71 00:05:04,140 --> 00:05:05,820 honestly, um 72 00:05:05,820 --> 00:05:08,940 How do you feel that you bring excellence to your podcast? Oh 73 00:05:09,740 --> 00:05:11,740 whoa, huh, I 74 00:05:12,220 --> 00:05:16,840 Feel like I would say me and also Brandon because we come at it in a similar way 75 00:05:17,060 --> 00:05:23,820 We're extremely authentic our whole our whole like shtick is real guys real life real converse, right? 76 00:05:23,820 --> 00:05:27,860 And obviously we're gonna talk about different things we have guest on or like whatever right? 77 00:05:27,860 --> 00:05:35,300 But what we are providing to the people who listen is a genuine and authentic conversation about whatever the world 78 00:05:35,300 --> 00:05:37,300 puts on our heart and 79 00:05:37,500 --> 00:05:44,060 In that sense excellence would be doing my best to prepare whether it's mentally spiritually physically 80 00:05:44,060 --> 00:05:49,380 Right doing my best to set up the podcast like technically wise, right? 81 00:05:49,380 --> 00:05:52,300 With all that we I mean we talked about a little bit before we got started here 82 00:05:52,300 --> 00:05:58,100 with all the different mics and the cameras and the software and then just like even during kind of making sure to 83 00:05:58,420 --> 00:06:01,460 Like like even like Brandon will be talking I'll be like, okay 84 00:06:01,460 --> 00:06:04,940 Like I'm hearing it and I want to like have a good conversation about the same time 85 00:06:04,940 --> 00:06:08,260 How can I make this the most intriguing conversation? 86 00:06:08,260 --> 00:06:13,540 How can I make this conversation like oh like what like what sparks in my head that can really just like send this conversation? 87 00:06:13,740 --> 00:06:19,380 Into the next level. Yeah, while still keeping it while still keeping it at that genuine and authentic level 88 00:06:19,380 --> 00:06:23,420 So that's that's how I try to keep the podcast excellent. That's really good 89 00:06:24,180 --> 00:06:31,020 And going off that same vein of the podcast. I just just honestly it was this morning. I'll be honest 90 00:06:31,020 --> 00:06:33,360 I listened to episode 21 91 00:06:33,980 --> 00:06:36,940 The refining the refining process it came out yesterday 92 00:06:40,100 --> 00:06:44,300 And I was going through and I 93 00:06:44,940 --> 00:06:48,220 Really I wanted to pick a episode an episode 94 00:06:48,220 --> 00:06:54,060 But I saw that title was like that is like a perfect fit. Mm-hmm. So let me find 95 00:06:55,500 --> 00:06:59,820 So you mentioned that you're going through a refining process and then I said, yeah 96 00:06:59,900 --> 00:07:04,580 So got a couple a couple questions based off of that. But first, okay, okay 97 00:07:05,420 --> 00:07:09,040 Can you give a brief summary of what this process is? 98 00:07:09,780 --> 00:07:11,780 Yes, I can't 99 00:07:11,940 --> 00:07:16,340 Fun fact I actually had the title of the name that was a lot longer 100 00:07:16,340 --> 00:07:18,980 Yeah, it was supposed to be everyone talks about refining 101 00:07:18,980 --> 00:07:24,100 But what about scraping and I was like I was like fire title but way too long 102 00:07:24,980 --> 00:07:27,140 So we'll just keep it there refining process 103 00:07:27,140 --> 00:07:34,540 But for those of you who don't know what their refining process is is basically this process that different things go through that is under 104 00:07:34,540 --> 00:07:41,620 Immense fire heat and pressure. Yeah, and what it does it brings all the impurities to the top and makes them all seen invisible 105 00:07:41,620 --> 00:07:48,860 So then that they can be scraped off and be kind of made into this more solid and kind of this like beautiful state 106 00:07:48,860 --> 00:07:53,540 Of what was before like covered in dirt covered in things that doesn't belong there 107 00:07:53,540 --> 00:07:58,460 And so kind of pivoting because I said this on our podcast too. It's like, okay, we're not gold 108 00:07:58,460 --> 00:08:01,220 We're not gold bars. So like what does that mean for us, right? 109 00:08:01,260 --> 00:08:05,740 So the refining process for us is when God puts us through different circumstances 110 00:08:05,740 --> 00:08:13,140 It puts us through different experiences through different trials that put us under pressure that may seem a little harsh 111 00:08:13,380 --> 00:08:18,900 That may seem you may think okay. Why am I going through this? This is such a difficult time 112 00:08:18,900 --> 00:08:22,620 I feel pressured not I don't feel pressured to do something 113 00:08:22,620 --> 00:08:27,460 I feel like everything in me is being pushed to its limit 114 00:08:27,820 --> 00:08:31,380 What is going on right and in those moments? 115 00:08:31,380 --> 00:08:37,700 The the things that aren't inherently that God didn't create you with like say insecurities 116 00:08:37,820 --> 00:08:42,860 Say different things maybe this trauma maybe it's just like it could just be something you're thinking about 117 00:08:42,860 --> 00:08:44,460 That's just not the correct way 118 00:08:44,460 --> 00:08:44,780 All right 119 00:08:44,780 --> 00:08:50,300 And so during those times God will put you through those trials and those things will rise to the top 120 00:08:50,300 --> 00:08:56,020 They're like easily seen right because if you're under immense pressure and you have a patient's problem and you're under pressure 121 00:08:56,500 --> 00:09:00,460 Boy, are you gonna be really frustrated because you're gonna be extremely impatient, right? 122 00:09:00,460 --> 00:09:05,340 so during these processes those sort of things rise to the top they're easily seen and 123 00:09:05,900 --> 00:09:11,140 Then it's up to us to respond and take action on how can we how can we? 124 00:09:11,820 --> 00:09:14,820 Scrape those things off of us. Yeah, that's really good 125 00:09:14,820 --> 00:09:20,780 I think the story knows we're fighting that we're fighting processes that we go through we live through multiple throughout life 126 00:09:20,780 --> 00:09:27,260 Yeah, it's where we learn it's and if we are striving for excellence. That's where the that's a lot of times 127 00:09:27,260 --> 00:09:29,700 Those instances where 128 00:09:31,460 --> 00:09:34,620 We learn we learn more about what it means for us to be excellent 129 00:09:35,180 --> 00:09:39,940 Because we're like you said removing the things that aren't of aren't really there may be other flesh 130 00:09:39,940 --> 00:09:43,340 But they're not of what we were created who we were created to be. Yeah, absolutely 131 00:09:44,580 --> 00:09:46,580 But um 132 00:09:46,660 --> 00:09:48,820 Sorry, I miss I lost my place. You're good 133 00:09:49,260 --> 00:09:55,340 The fighting process is so it's so interesting to me. Like it's just a geek out of time 134 00:09:55,340 --> 00:10:01,220 Because it's so cool because even like the stuff that is on and I keep bringing back the gold because it's such a cool analogy 135 00:10:01,220 --> 00:10:05,720 When gold is like getting refined the things that are on it aren't inherently bad 136 00:10:05,780 --> 00:10:08,820 Yeah, right some of the things that we have aren't inherently bad 137 00:10:08,820 --> 00:10:12,700 It's just things that are holding back the true beauty that God creates for you know 138 00:10:12,700 --> 00:10:16,140 So it's like in those things and I think what you said about excellence. That's really good, too 139 00:10:16,140 --> 00:10:20,140 Because it's like okay, maybe I don't need to like what do I need to scrape off? 140 00:10:20,140 --> 00:10:22,460 What do I need to scrape off like I need to scrape I need to scrape 141 00:10:22,460 --> 00:10:29,940 It's like yeah good heart behind pump the brakes a little bit because you don't have to it's life shouldn't be about fixing yourself 142 00:10:29,940 --> 00:10:34,660 Right. Yeah, it should be about enjoying it and though we should try to be the best self we can I think 143 00:10:35,220 --> 00:10:38,220 excellence comes in that way with between a healthy balance of 144 00:10:38,460 --> 00:10:44,720 Living life as a person we created to be but at the same time the person the person we created to be maybe isn't the person 145 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,500 We are right now. So how do we get there? Wow, they're really good. I think 146 00:10:48,500 --> 00:10:52,460 I know I'm currently going through the refining process myself 147 00:10:52,980 --> 00:10:56,500 And I think it's really crazy. I use this analogy 148 00:10:57,220 --> 00:11:00,700 on the last episode did you guys all hear about I 149 00:11:02,180 --> 00:11:10,020 Believe sometimes God will have us put like even like you like you said good things on to like this the altar to be sacrificed 150 00:11:10,020 --> 00:11:16,220 Yeah, and the analogy I would like to use is like God gave me like this vision a couple days ago 151 00:11:16,220 --> 00:11:23,220 And it was like like my pastor dream and it was like a fruit right and then he just crushed me 152 00:11:23,220 --> 00:11:29,540 Oh, and then it came into this little seed and then I was like all sad because I was like 153 00:11:29,660 --> 00:11:35,860 Yeah, and then I'm like, but it's gone right and then but he then he like let me know that like okay 154 00:11:35,860 --> 00:11:41,500 I'm gonna plant this seed and instead of my little fruit that I was so excited for 155 00:11:42,020 --> 00:11:44,020 That it's gonna turn into a tree 156 00:11:44,020 --> 00:11:47,940 Wow, I mean so like and now that's way bigger 157 00:11:49,740 --> 00:11:55,140 But it takes that me giving it up right? Yeah, so I love the refining process 158 00:11:55,140 --> 00:11:59,400 I mean, I don't enjoy it. I'm in it because I think it's honestly like the worst 159 00:12:02,260 --> 00:12:04,860 But I think what God is taking us 160 00:12:04,860 --> 00:12:12,860 Yeah, it's like he has put all our things that we hold more than him and make it in an idol and destroying it 161 00:12:12,860 --> 00:12:17,320 Yeah, and then we starting it. Yeah, then when it's finished and it's nurtured 162 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:23,540 Yeah, how God wants to do it it becomes bigger than we exactly. Yeah, it's like it's not a bad thing that you want to be a 163 00:12:23,540 --> 00:12:28,500 Pastor. Yeah, but if that ever kind of starts to like get up with God, it's like, okay 164 00:12:28,500 --> 00:12:34,420 No, no, no, but it's also so beautiful cuz I I don't know if I've said this before on an episode or not 165 00:12:34,420 --> 00:12:37,860 But you can't be in love with the fruit. You should be in love with the root 166 00:12:39,380 --> 00:12:42,160 Yeah, and like when you said that it's a good fruit is good 167 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:46,540 Yeah, obviously we love the fruit and we just it's something we're supposed to eat, right? 168 00:12:46,540 --> 00:12:51,940 But that's not the thing we should be in love with we should be the in love with the thing that provides the fruit 169 00:12:51,940 --> 00:12:52,420 Right. Yeah 170 00:12:52,420 --> 00:12:58,740 so I think that that that's such a cool vision that God gave you because I can just imagine crushing it and then when he 171 00:12:58,740 --> 00:13:05,380 Crushed it just all the seeds fall down and then it just makes this all trees. Oh, that's so cool, right? Oh my gosh 172 00:13:05,900 --> 00:13:11,100 Yeah, and when I first like I'm in my head. I was like God why no, you know 173 00:13:11,100 --> 00:13:13,100 What are you doing? 174 00:13:13,540 --> 00:13:15,540 Asking God, what are you doing? No, what do you think you're doing? 175 00:13:19,540 --> 00:13:21,540 Only you knew I'd plant you a whole tree 176 00:13:27,540 --> 00:13:33,380 So I like me my me myself like I'm doing like I've gone through and I 177 00:13:34,260 --> 00:13:36,720 It's hard to know for me. Like am I still in am I not? 178 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:44,000 Yeah, and like but I know I can specifically say when it's my when that refining season started for me was whenever I 179 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:50,640 Really started realizing I wasn't able to use my arms as best as I used to be able to yeah, and there was a 180 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:56,400 a moment where I kept trying to do things on my own and that's where that 181 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:01,580 Okay, like that's me. They like to my core is like always trying like oh 182 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,080 no one else is gonna do it right to do it yourself and 183 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,080 like and then as I 184 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:15,080 Started looking more into a how do I become a more serious leader? How do I become like a better a better leader? 185 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:16,600 How do I become? 186 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,720 a better version of myself 187 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,600 It was the things kept coming up or like oh 188 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:28,480 I actually physically can't do this thing anymore and I need to ask for help and that's copy God like like you 189 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,000 physically like he was pretty much like I 190 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:36,280 Think I mentioned I don't know if I mentioned this to you before but like my friend David Callahan 191 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,360 Like I just asked him like hey man 192 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:44,720 I supposed to serve this Sunday on production and you mentioned once that you might be interested. Can you help out tomorrow? 193 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:51,720 And he was like sure. Yeah, it's like and I was the first time I asked somebody for help with production 194 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,540 yeah, like that's how he got involved and like 195 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,360 I'm like and I started realizing like for me 196 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:04,680 The thing that God needed to refine and scrape off of me was my own self-reliance. Yeah. Mm-hmm 197 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,680 Yeah, I feel that one a lot 198 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:11,880 Especially that asking for help. It's like no no, I can do it. Yeah, I'll figure it out, right 199 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:16,360 I was like I don't need to bring someone else into this cuz they have they probably have so much stuff going on 200 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,400 You know and all these things it's like that 201 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:25,380 I don't need that like why would I even bother bringing someone into this and teaching them something and doing something good for them? 202 00:15:25,380 --> 00:15:29,180 It like feels in the like in the moment. No, no, no, I can do something 203 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:36,560 But like I bet afterwards you're like, huh this felt really good. Yeah, cuz asking for help isn't a bad thing 204 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:43,840 Yeah, it's that you know, they've helped a great thing that came out of that was it taught me that I actually really like 205 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,920 To guide others. Yeah 206 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:52,360 It's like to show that I really like to guide others and like like I'm like actually not bad at it 207 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:58,400 Yeah, and like especially when it comes to something that like in production or like stuff and stuff 208 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,440 I really enjoy and like yeah, let me help others that know I want to enjoy it too 209 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,600 Yeah, and like why keep all that for myself? 210 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,320 But um based off of I had it highlighted 211 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:21,360 Oh, I like it's a get your notes out get your pens clicking guys take notes in it in the takers in history makers 212 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,800 In that in that same episode in the refining process you talked about 213 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:33,680 You can get how you can go left on you can stay on your own path or you can go right and pivot and beat and 214 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:39,540 And said and be bold and courageous. That's how I wrote it to be patient 215 00:16:39,540 --> 00:16:43,760 So for our listeners, what does that really mean? Mm-hmm 216 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:49,880 So I think this is when I talked about on our episode. Yeah, I wasn't necessarily 217 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,840 Connecting it to the refining process, but it 100% does connect 218 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,040 So the way I was relating in our episode 219 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:03,540 I was talking about how when you ask God for something something more intangible not like when you asking for strength 220 00:17:03,540 --> 00:17:08,160 It would be or not be that's I mean you can but like asking for strength wisdom 221 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:12,600 Like knowledge boldness all these things he doesn't inherently just give you those right? 222 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,560 What he's going to do is he get he's going to put you in an opportunity 223 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:21,680 He's gonna put you in an experience through a trial that's gonna give you the option to act differently 224 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:28,040 Mm-hmm, and this is where you have off you can turn left or you can turn right and I think with the refining process 225 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:34,680 It's the same thing because when we're getting refined it's before those things are like they're there for a reason 226 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:39,400 So we haven't done anything differently, right? So when they come to the top when they're noticed when they're seen 227 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,580 We can either like and I don't know if I said a or left but whatever you option one 228 00:17:43,580 --> 00:17:46,460 You can act the same. Yeah, right. You can let it go 229 00:17:46,460 --> 00:17:52,000 you can let it just like sit there and just be act the normal way and not change anything or 230 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,940 Go the other way you can go right you can take the option B 231 00:17:55,940 --> 00:18:00,980 And you can act differently and you can choose to step out and say okay 232 00:18:00,980 --> 00:18:05,740 Like this is an opportunity that I've prayed about and I know inherently I don't have this 233 00:18:06,260 --> 00:18:09,920 Trait that I asked or I don't I don't have this trait 234 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:14,440 But I know God does and so and God is within me and God is my strength 235 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:19,760 So through what like with God I can get through this and he gets all the glory and it's through his power 236 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,840 not my through his strength and not mine and 237 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:28,600 That whole pivot is it's the scraping right? Do you choose to scrape or you just choose to let it sit there, right? 238 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,600 That's good. And this is something that like 239 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:36,180 I'm gonna try to make sure I'm staying on on this on the right in the same vein 240 00:18:36,820 --> 00:18:41,960 But my my thoughts went to the conversation we're having with Michaela yesterday 241 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,140 Mm-hmm, or I guess for you guys it was last week 242 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:47,760 And 243 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,240 the 244 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,720 We talked a lot about like 245 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,680 striving versus seeking. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah 246 00:18:55,680 --> 00:19:03,560 because she was like she was like, okay, I was using she was like because if she said like the word striving can be taken in 247 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,600 Essentially a missed opportunity way a way that way that 248 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,320 People essentially burn themselves out because they're striving so much 249 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:19,000 Yeah, and she like instead you're seeking for God and say you're seeking you're seeing for God and seeking you're calling out 250 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,640 yeah, and 251 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,640 so like with you like 252 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,840 When you think when do you initially think of the word that you used it like striving for excellence? 253 00:19:27,360 --> 00:19:31,680 mm-hmm, so like what we kind of already talked about excellence and 254 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:40,160 Wait, and I guess you already talked about excellence and what it is. Yeah, and through the refining process 255 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,160 We've talked about how? 256 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,840 strong how like the refining process kind of 257 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,920 Refines us and make and make and makes us 258 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:55,320 Into a better version of ourselves and it also helps us become also helps us become more 259 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:03,440 Not more excellent, but like helps us be able to have access to more of the things that 260 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:12,080 Yeah, so it's not like we gain all these things it's like initially like right you were first created 261 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:18,400 We have access to all these things. Yeah, but because of things done and all these things 262 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:22,060 We have all this stuff on us. So it's not like when we get refined 263 00:20:22,060 --> 00:20:24,640 It's not like we're getting at the stuff is getting added to us 264 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:29,080 it's actually things getting taken off of us that then allow us to 265 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:37,520 Have the full I was gonna say capacity capacity. Yeah, the capabilities. Yeah that God has created us with I think is that where? 266 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,780 Yes, I got you. Thank you. Yeah 267 00:20:39,780 --> 00:20:41,780 I got you 268 00:20:42,220 --> 00:20:43,820 And 269 00:20:43,820 --> 00:20:47,820 This goes actually perfectly in line. This is question. I'm gonna ask it all the guests and during this 270 00:20:48,740 --> 00:20:50,740 during this series 271 00:20:51,540 --> 00:20:55,460 With growth and excellence come sacrifice the other quote I am 272 00:20:56,460 --> 00:20:58,460 Quick quote from John Maxwell 273 00:20:59,660 --> 00:21:06,500 Growth demands and temporary surrender of security. Mm-hmm, and he defines excellence as continuous growth 274 00:21:06,500 --> 00:21:09,940 Yeah. Oh, that's really good. So as I 275 00:21:10,460 --> 00:21:16,540 With that in mind with the gross in excellence come sacrifice and what so what is something you've had to give up in or? 276 00:21:16,660 --> 00:21:18,660 in order to experience growth 277 00:21:19,780 --> 00:21:25,900 Comfortability for sure. Yeah, I know and when I say this people don't really believe me 278 00:21:25,900 --> 00:21:29,460 But like before I started like before really gave my life to Christ 279 00:21:29,460 --> 00:21:35,860 Like I was very shy just in like in public and social settings not shy and it's like I would 280 00:21:35,860 --> 00:21:40,660 Wouldn't I don't like public speaking I wasn't good at it and I say that the people down there like what do you mean? 281 00:21:40,660 --> 00:21:45,900 Like you're just always bouncing off the walls just screaming random stuff now, and it's just like yeah 282 00:21:45,900 --> 00:21:47,900 That's what Jesus does you mean? 283 00:21:48,220 --> 00:21:54,180 I had to really give up like the comfortability but really sacrifice like 284 00:21:55,820 --> 00:21:57,820 Hmm I had to sacrifice 285 00:21:58,900 --> 00:22:03,660 Knowing or I had to sacrifice the feeling that I couldn't change 286 00:22:03,660 --> 00:22:07,660 Hmm. Yeah, and within that comes a whole bunch of different things 287 00:22:07,660 --> 00:22:13,660 Like I had to sacrifice like being comfortable except I sacrifice like just like sitting back like I actually took the steps 288 00:22:13,660 --> 00:22:19,420 To be bold to like speak out even though sometimes like didn't go the way I planned or I didn't say the things I wanted to 289 00:22:19,420 --> 00:22:26,300 But I did take those steps and I and I and I moved out of that comfortability. Um, I had to sacrifice a lot of lifestyle things 290 00:22:26,300 --> 00:22:30,660 I was living my life not necessarily in an ungodly way 291 00:22:30,660 --> 00:22:36,620 But just like God really put it on my heart like last year like towards the end of the year like okay 292 00:22:36,620 --> 00:22:41,100 Like there's these things on your life that you don't need like we're used refining me 293 00:22:41,100 --> 00:22:44,700 Yeah to the point it was like easy things that were kind of scraped that kid 294 00:22:44,700 --> 00:22:47,900 I just like scrape off right just like bad habits bad things 295 00:22:47,900 --> 00:22:50,460 I was doing well not necessarily some of them were bad 296 00:22:50,460 --> 00:22:53,300 But like some of them just like not what I was supposed to be doing 297 00:22:53,300 --> 00:22:57,700 Yeah, so I was kind of just sacrificing what I was used to doing and it's like okay God 298 00:22:57,700 --> 00:23:03,700 How how am I supposed to live my life now and that and I feel like that in itself was like a sacrifice 299 00:23:03,700 --> 00:23:07,980 I gave up my own control of what my life was supposed to be and I was just like I 300 00:23:08,220 --> 00:23:14,540 Want to live the life that God wants me to live so I want to in like I want to be doing those things 301 00:23:14,540 --> 00:23:20,460 Yeah, and I like would convict me a lot and sometimes I get in my head about it because I'd be I'd be like 302 00:23:20,460 --> 00:23:25,180 Oh, I need to do more more more and it's like dude you literally it's like you just ran five miles 303 00:23:25,180 --> 00:23:32,020 You're like six miles ahead though, and it's like I had to kind of like realize that look how far I've came from a lot 304 00:23:32,020 --> 00:23:40,620 Of things that I've overcame. Yeah, but I had to just really sacrifice like like I just I was okay with 305 00:23:40,860 --> 00:23:45,860 Losing thing or yeah, I was I I'm trying to articulate this I 306 00:23:46,580 --> 00:23:52,380 Sacrificed the feeling of like control in a sense of like, okay. I'm okay with losing this 307 00:23:52,380 --> 00:23:56,820 Yeah, like whatever it may be whether it's a relationship whether it's a friendship 308 00:23:56,820 --> 00:24:02,580 Yeah, there is friendships that I've had that I they were there were some of my best friends and for a season 309 00:24:02,580 --> 00:24:04,660 I had to kind of just take a step back and 310 00:24:05,700 --> 00:24:10,420 Thankfully like I'm still friends with them and like the friendships are like come back but for a season 311 00:24:10,420 --> 00:24:12,260 And this is really good to first season 312 00:24:12,260 --> 00:24:17,900 I had to take a step back just because like I mean you guys probably know you can have friends that don't have the same 313 00:24:17,900 --> 00:24:21,860 Lifestyles you but if you hang out with them a lot and you're around them a lot 314 00:24:21,860 --> 00:24:25,380 Then like they can start to rub off on you and all those things and especially 315 00:24:25,820 --> 00:24:27,820 Towards the beginning of my walk with Christ 316 00:24:27,940 --> 00:24:31,100 It's not necessarily the best thing for me as an individual 317 00:24:31,100 --> 00:24:33,500 I could be influenced very easily when it comes to things 318 00:24:33,540 --> 00:24:36,260 So for me, I had to take a step back and be like, okay 319 00:24:36,260 --> 00:24:41,080 Like I need to create this foundation and let it solidify first before I can go back 320 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:48,640 Yeah, it's a now I can go back to those friends with a firm foundation and I'm not the influence. I'm the influencer 321 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:53,640 That's good. Yeah, so there's I mean I kind of just rambled there for a little are you're good. No 322 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:58,380 No, yeah, I kind of just like sacrifice the way I was just like thinking about life 323 00:24:58,580 --> 00:25:02,660 I mean everything was just kind of going downhill. Yeah, and I was like, all right. Oh 324 00:25:03,500 --> 00:25:05,500 How much worse can this really get? 325 00:25:05,900 --> 00:25:11,500 So I just I sacrifice just yeah, I was like Lord you have it. It's yours anyway 326 00:25:11,580 --> 00:25:15,900 So just guide me along this way. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, honestly 327 00:25:15,900 --> 00:25:20,900 I I think the Bible talks about all bad company corrupts good manners 328 00:25:21,180 --> 00:25:25,700 so I I think for new believers, especially it's so 329 00:25:26,260 --> 00:25:29,820 important for them to go and find a foundation 330 00:25:30,500 --> 00:25:32,500 Before you go back to your old friend 331 00:25:32,660 --> 00:25:38,240 Because your old friends are going to be doing things that are not of God until they come into a relationship 332 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,240 Yeah, exactly. I know 333 00:25:41,660 --> 00:25:45,320 It doesn't make those friends like bad people. Yeah, those friends aren't bad people 334 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:51,580 Yeah, but it's just when when you have a different lifestyle than them. It's just like you can make it something even more practical 335 00:25:51,580 --> 00:25:55,460 It's like if they work in the morning and you work at night and it's like, okay 336 00:25:55,460 --> 00:25:58,500 Like they want to go hang out at night because they're off work. It's like well 337 00:25:58,500 --> 00:26:04,060 I don't I my life isn't like that. Yeah, it's like I can't do that. I can't do that, right? 338 00:26:04,060 --> 00:26:09,100 But after a while, it's like you your lifestyle either might change or you just may become so 339 00:26:09,100 --> 00:26:15,260 Accustomed to your lifestyle that you can now hang around them without like compromising. Yeah, I think yeah 340 00:26:15,260 --> 00:26:19,100 You have to be able to and this is a hard line because you shouldn't be like, okay 341 00:26:19,100 --> 00:26:23,820 I'm good and then go compromise right you have to have you have to have a strong enough foundation 342 00:26:24,220 --> 00:26:29,460 Not to be able to compromise your belief when you're around those old friends. Yeah, absolutely 343 00:26:30,060 --> 00:26:36,580 That's really good. I think that's something I honestly think that's that's way more practical than I think I don't know 344 00:26:36,580 --> 00:26:40,920 I don't know if you realize it as a way of I think I feel like all three of us 345 00:26:41,140 --> 00:26:45,660 Like I can say that you guys both said it were you related like you the trance any really too 346 00:26:45,660 --> 00:26:49,020 I extremely I relate to that too where I know I'm high I 347 00:26:49,660 --> 00:26:53,120 I've never really said to somebody other people but like I am 348 00:26:54,140 --> 00:27:01,200 I've acknowledged it to myself that I am highly susceptible to my surroundings and like but at the same time 349 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:09,000 I go further like we talked about roots the further the further down my roots go with Christ and the further more further 350 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:15,280 I'm like further. I'm locked into that foundation. Yeah, the less I'm shaken whenever I'm around those people 351 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,680 Yeah, because they like you said they're not bad people. I love my friend exactly 352 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:24,660 Yeah, and like the goal is it's like to also show them who Jesus is and who like right? 353 00:27:24,660 --> 00:27:30,480 It's not just to be around other believers. Yeah, that doesn't do anything. Yeah, exactly 354 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,480 I would does but 355 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,440 The genius didn't only hang out right who followed him, right? Yeah 356 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,960 Based off you were you're saying earlier like you took that step out 357 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,680 What caused you to step out? What was that? What was that like? Mm-hmm 358 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:54,580 I think what really caused me to sit like I'm trying to think in the exact like time 359 00:27:54,580 --> 00:28:01,920 Do you mean like in what sort of way like when I was talking about being refined like initially when I like gave my life 360 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:07,120 To Christ or like more recently you talked about the way I was hearing it was something 361 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,960 more recently whenever you were whenever you were like 362 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,640 more shy and 363 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:21,000 Gotcha. So I can give credit to Brandon here because I just started hanging out with Brandon a lot and I was um 364 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:26,000 Well, I think what what it boiled down to was I just wasn't really confident in myself 365 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:31,440 Like who I really was and part of that was because I knew there's parts of me that I wanted to change 366 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,640 So I didn't want people to see that part, right? 367 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:38,480 But it took the brain and kind of not pushed me out of my shell 368 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,980 But he was he he kind of got me out of there just being around him. I mean, you know him 369 00:28:42,980 --> 00:28:47,480 Yeah, I'll be sociable. He just wants to talk to people to have extroverts very much an introvert 370 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,480 I love talking to people but 371 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,400 introvert at heart and 372 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:57,140 What really caused me to step out was like one people like being like I see this in you 373 00:28:57,140 --> 00:29:01,480 Yeah, even when I didn't see them myself into I don't know 374 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:06,960 Just I've never really been much of like speaking out before and a lot of this has to come with like public speaking 375 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,960 That was like the first kind of thing that came out 376 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,240 Public speaking whether it was like probably even sort of like announcements 377 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:18,640 yeah, I like hosting a game at like I see or like whatever and I was just given an opportunity and 378 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,400 I knew the people who gave me the opportunity 379 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,840 Like believed in me and knew I would do a good job 380 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:31,600 so knowing that I took the step and obviously I knew God would give me the strength and 381 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,900 It was something God wanted me to go down 382 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:39,640 so I took like the step of boldness to kind of just like step out of my shell and the first time I like got 383 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:45,920 Up in stage and like did like did announcements. What are them like preach the first time I preached. Oh my goodness. What's that? 384 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,920 Oh, that was not good 385 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:53,560 But I stepped out right and what that did for me was like it like in my mind 386 00:29:53,560 --> 00:30:00,360 Maybe I did fail but inherently I didn't because I did what God called me to do and what happened happened for a reason 387 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,200 It was part of God's plan. Like that didn't happen by mistake. It didn't happen by accident 388 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,200 Yeah, like everything that happened in that moment 389 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:11,480 Happened for a reason and so if I can say to anyone listening like if you're scared to step out 390 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:16,600 Yeah, take that step and whatever happens is supposed to happen for a reason 391 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,520 Yeah, God's not gonna be like oh well 392 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,400 Like I wanted this to happen but like you just like didn't say the right thing 393 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,200 So like now we want the plan B 394 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,880 It's just like no you stepped out and you obeyed God's calling and he's like great 395 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,480 That's exactly like like good job. Like you you were being you were obedient 396 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:40,680 Yeah, that's all I'm calling you to do. So it really that helped also. I stopped taking the spotlight off of me 397 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,220 It's like yes, I'm up there and speaking at the same time 398 00:30:43,220 --> 00:30:49,500 Like it's not about me a lot of times it was like I got like performance anxiety from the public speaking 399 00:30:49,500 --> 00:30:54,600 I like school. Yeah, because it was like for a grade and so at that time it is about me, right? 400 00:30:54,600 --> 00:31:02,000 It's how I speak it's the words I'm saying the content I'm speaking but now I'm realizing okay, it's not about me in this context 401 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,360 It's like what does God want to say? 402 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:07,400 how can I best say that without messing it up too bad and 403 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:12,160 how can I relate it to the people speaking and be a little funny while doing that and 404 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,520 Yeah, I just kind of stepped out in that way was confident in it and 405 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:24,140 Through many different trials and experiences and repetitions of doing it you stepping out just become second nature 406 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:29,720 That's good. No, I was going to go further, but I feel like when I start wrapping it up 407 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,480 But I have these questions. I forgot to ask them last episode but a 408 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,400 Couple ones I'm gonna wrap up with something. You have any final before we wrap up 409 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,400 Yeah, I 410 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,800 Was like we only been talking for three minutes 411 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:58,880 So was that to get the excellent excellence I like grossly excellence and so when it comes to personal growth 412 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,160 What are some of the like top resource if you if you can name any resources? 413 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,480 That you would recommend to people they can they can be either books podcasts anything 414 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:13,120 What would you recommend resources just for you say growing in excellence? Yeah, um 415 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:21,320 You touched on a little bit John Maxwell. I've only read one of his books on I started reading it 416 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:28,360 The forget the exact title, but it's somewhat of a long lines of developing the leader in YouTube point now 417 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,320 Yep, that's it. That's a really good one 418 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,880 I got halfway through stopped reading it and now I'm picking it back up 419 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:39,720 And I'm starting over just so I can read through it fresh. So developing the leader in YouTube went over by John Maxwell. Um 420 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,040 What else is really good? 421 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:48,120 I mean the Bible is full of knowledge if you want good for stuff for excellence read the book of Proverbs and 422 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:49,920 Look up 423 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:55,800 Just like a study on it like a really in-depth study. What else for for excellence? 424 00:32:55,800 --> 00:33:01,840 Um for me, it's it's a mixture of like knowing things and also like being productive 425 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:07,000 I've been really trying to learn how to be productive. I don't know this guy's name, but there's this youtuber 426 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:13,720 His name is I think it's like Ali of da. I always know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's really good 427 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:20,220 He has a lot of good productivity productivity things how to like I was just watching this video on like the best like sleep routine 428 00:33:20,220 --> 00:33:24,800 Yeah, cuz I think like overall like excellence. It shouldn't just be the thing you're doing say 429 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:29,520 I mean with us like church or like at our job. It should just be a lifestyle. Yeah, right and 430 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,600 Obviously in a healthy and balanced way, but I'm like, oh wait 431 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,360 How can I like use the best time like how can I get the best sleep? 432 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:43,280 Like I don't want to go to sleep and wake up like Rocky like how do I wake up and feel ready to tackle today? 433 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,000 Yeah, so that's someone I think is really good and another one 434 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:52,000 I would say is I'm trying to think of one more and think another good podcast 435 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:57,880 I mean you guys are an excellent source of content and just wisdom. Thank you. Yeah 436 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,560 I appreciate it. We appreciate that a lot 437 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:07,640 You guys are amazing with everything that you do. So that's it's just I listen to some stuff. I'm like, that's good 438 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,520 Write that one down 439 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:15,280 But I mean I have to sit here and think for a little bit. Yeah, I thought I would give it 440 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,120 Yeah, I'm just off of my mind. That's all I know 441 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,740 That's typically like what I'm looking for the thing that puts the pop-up first 442 00:34:19,740 --> 00:34:23,360 That's the stuff that you actually like or the gap that that's the good stuff. Mm-hmm 443 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,720 Yeah, I've been didn't listen to a lot more like pot 444 00:34:25,720 --> 00:34:31,640 I guess they're more interviews but like podcast interviews. Yeah people about like I just listen to all these with Collins 445 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,000 Yeah, that's a good one 446 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:40,360 And then just like I don't just hearing like different business people talk about like they're like they're 447 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:45,960 Businesses and how they do things is just really cool. So yeah, just I mean, it's a whole bunch of mix of things 448 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,080 But for the majority that's pretty awesome. I had one question actually 449 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:58,080 I'm here with the John. It's a really I think question for it's gonna leave a lot of people to success in life 450 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:03,720 Okay, um, how can you help somebody else bring excellence to the the next? 451 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:11,380 Disciple the next generation the next person that you're gonna like encounter like how can they carry it? Yeah 452 00:35:11,380 --> 00:35:13,380 How can you hmm leave them? 453 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,880 I think so 454 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:21,460 Someone is going to pick up something you do because of like a couple reasons not just because it's 455 00:35:22,180 --> 00:35:29,100 Mostly never gonna be because you just tell them to yeah, because that's just like I probably personally that just hasn't worked for me 456 00:35:29,100 --> 00:35:31,100 so 457 00:35:32,340 --> 00:35:38,300 It's gonna come out of the way I act and live and creating a special bond or just a 458 00:35:38,820 --> 00:35:43,620 genuine connection with that person and said and being like hey like this is how I live my life and 459 00:35:43,620 --> 00:35:50,940 Look at the I think one thing that's really cool is like the fruit that comes out of is striving for excellence, right? 460 00:35:50,980 --> 00:35:57,220 God calls us to be the best person we can and within that he's gonna supply us with everything that we need and 461 00:35:57,820 --> 00:35:59,700 If you do that with them 462 00:35:59,700 --> 00:36:06,180 I mean I try to do with the loving heart with wisdom with knowledge with care and kindness and patience and all these things 463 00:36:06,700 --> 00:36:09,500 and I think when someone sees that and then 464 00:36:09,500 --> 00:36:15,260 They see the like I don't want to say the real you but the authentic you and it's the same person 465 00:36:15,620 --> 00:36:21,100 They're like, whoa, that's like because if you see someone doing it and then on the weekend, they're fake 466 00:36:21,100 --> 00:36:25,740 It's like I don't know attractive. You don't want to it's like that's just like I don't want to do that 467 00:36:25,740 --> 00:36:33,100 But when you see when you see that and you're like, whoa, that's really cool and he's the same exact person when he's like not here 468 00:36:33,900 --> 00:36:38,260 Then that's just something they inherently want to like become and it's not you 469 00:36:38,260 --> 00:36:40,620 It's like your values in your heart, right? 470 00:36:40,620 --> 00:36:44,560 And I think when it comes out at the end of the day is like where's your heart at? Yeah 471 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:49,140 I mean that's like a lot of questions it boils down to is just like where's your heart at? 472 00:36:49,140 --> 00:36:55,380 Yeah, right if you have a good heart people are gonna inherently be attracted and they're gonna want to have a good heart 473 00:36:55,380 --> 00:36:57,960 Yeah, I think that's what just comes down to that's good 474 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,180 I really like the parallels that are coming happening between these two episodes 475 00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:04,100 this one of the last episode because 476 00:37:04,100 --> 00:37:08,140 Because um, you meant you like if your heart's in the right place if your heart's in the right place 477 00:37:08,140 --> 00:37:12,820 If your heart posture is right, then like you're gonna be going in the right direction 478 00:37:12,820 --> 00:37:14,060 Yeah 479 00:37:14,060 --> 00:37:20,300 And something that came in my mind as Michaela was speaking last episode was I like these quick quips 480 00:37:21,020 --> 00:37:22,940 That help me remember things 481 00:37:22,940 --> 00:37:26,540 Is that if you're if you're missing the heart you're missing the mark. Oh 482 00:37:27,740 --> 00:37:30,580 That's good. If you're missing the heart, you're missing the mark 483 00:37:30,580 --> 00:37:37,900 Yeah, and it's just like so like it's really like to the listeners like like where is your heart? 484 00:37:37,900 --> 00:37:41,740 Like what like a lot of people say like you want to know your heart is looking you're making out 485 00:37:42,220 --> 00:37:46,500 mmm, and like what are you spending the most of your money on and 486 00:37:47,260 --> 00:37:53,520 Like because that is our the resource that we all have. Yeah, so look at your big look at your screen time 487 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,420 Yeah, it's green time. Is there a heart up and I think going to like what kind of Sean asked? 488 00:37:57,420 --> 00:37:59,660 It's like where is your heart at? It's like yes 489 00:37:59,660 --> 00:38:05,860 We want to we want to lead people to excellence, but it's not about the number of people we lead to excellence 490 00:38:05,860 --> 00:38:13,660 It's about the heart we have and inherently it's just like we just want people to like have this and it's not because we want 491 00:38:13,660 --> 00:38:15,060 to be oh I 492 00:38:15,060 --> 00:38:21,420 Had five people yesterday say they've given their life to Jesus and they're striving for excellence and that's five numbers 493 00:38:21,420 --> 00:38:24,260 And I'm great because it's five more people and that's what I did 494 00:38:24,260 --> 00:38:30,460 It's just like no like your heart posture is just the love of Jesus and it that's just the byproduct 495 00:38:30,740 --> 00:38:35,140 So good. Yeah, if you if you don't have the heart you miss the mark, that's good 496 00:38:39,900 --> 00:38:47,080 And then to two final questions, okay, then well, they either just find out rap rap no questions. Gotcha 497 00:38:48,220 --> 00:38:49,460 But yeah 498 00:38:49,460 --> 00:38:56,160 First how can people learn more about you or your podcast who need to name? Hmm. So we have an Instagram 499 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,900 We have a YouTube and we have a Spotify all under who needs a name 500 00:38:59,900 --> 00:39:03,940 I believe the Instagram. Yeah, the Instagram is at who needs a name pod 501 00:39:04,500 --> 00:39:10,540 YouTube and Spotify's who needs a name with PB&J if you want to hear more about us we post right now 502 00:39:10,540 --> 00:39:17,580 Our schedule was every Friday. So we just dropped that episode on the 20. What was yesterday? Yeah, the 27th 503 00:39:17,580 --> 00:39:19,580 So we're back on a normal 504 00:39:20,820 --> 00:39:22,820 Content drop there 505 00:39:23,140 --> 00:39:25,300 About me. I mean I have an Instagram at 506 00:39:26,100 --> 00:39:31,620 JSP underscore 34 if you want to learn more about me, that's pretty much all I have there 507 00:39:31,620 --> 00:39:34,300 I'm trying to be a little more active on the Instagram try to you know 508 00:39:34,300 --> 00:39:39,860 Just hope as many people as I can also just like express myself. Yeah a little creative outlet. Yeah 509 00:39:41,420 --> 00:39:45,620 Yeah, I mean there's not much more stuff out there about me 510 00:39:45,620 --> 00:39:51,280 I mean if you looked up I have a couple youth messages and I see what I said you can listen to really 511 00:39:51,580 --> 00:39:56,060 Search it up there. But um, besides that yeah, that's pretty much it just on the socials 512 00:39:56,060 --> 00:40:00,660 All right, and then final question. Who would you like to hear on the podcast? Oh 513 00:40:02,220 --> 00:40:04,580 Who I like to hear on the podcast 514 00:40:05,860 --> 00:40:11,100 Specifically with this series or just in general in general you can be in this series if you want 515 00:40:11,100 --> 00:40:14,100 Okay, anything let me think here. I think someone 516 00:40:14,100 --> 00:40:16,100 That would be really good on this podcast 517 00:40:17,100 --> 00:40:21,740 And I know you know, I mean we all know him but Thomas, you know him really well pastor Ed 518 00:40:21,740 --> 00:40:25,100 You're the second person to tell me that really? 519 00:40:26,100 --> 00:40:28,100 Who's the pastor at Michaela? Yeah 520 00:40:30,100 --> 00:40:34,100 That would be so good on this because I feel he just has so much wisdom 521 00:40:34,100 --> 00:40:37,100 Yeah, and he's I mean just hearing him preach a couple times 522 00:40:37,100 --> 00:40:42,100 He's so much wisdom and so much just his heart is just amazing. He's just an awesome guy 523 00:40:42,100 --> 00:40:46,100 So I feel like just hearing him talk on the podcast would be awesome. Yeah, we love pastor Ed 524 00:40:46,100 --> 00:40:50,100 Yeah, we will have him on at some point. Yeah, we already talked about 525 00:40:52,100 --> 00:40:54,100 I assume he's the one who came up with this idea 526 00:40:58,100 --> 00:41:01,100 But guys, thank you for listening to this episode 527 00:41:01,100 --> 00:41:03,100 I think this was definitely a longer one 528 00:41:03,100 --> 00:41:08,100 So thank you for sticking around for the whole thing. It was it was honestly a great conversation 529 00:41:08,100 --> 00:41:15,100 So if you liked it, definitely go ahead and if you haven't already rated us give us five stars follow subscribe 530 00:41:15,100 --> 00:41:18,100 Whatever you got to do. Yeah, like button 531 00:41:24,100 --> 00:41:30,100 My train is like you guys got it. 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