1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,160 Hey guys, how's it going? 2 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,280 Welcome to this episode of Technically Short. 3 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:23,240 So this episode, Shawn and I, like after the last, well maybe not the last episode, but 4 00:00:23,240 --> 00:00:30,360 probably about a couple episodes ago, we talked about vision and how our, the purpose really 5 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:36,440 what we talked about of the podcast is with our drastically different views on topics 6 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,520 to help guide and people towards our calling so they can live the life that they're being 7 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,160 called to lead. 8 00:00:42,160 --> 00:00:47,400 And that's something I wanted, and I thought about that a little bit and I brought this 9 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:52,680 up to Shawn and I was like, well, what are we drastically, what do we drastically have 10 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:54,600 different opinions on? 11 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,080 And what, like, because those are some great topics we could talk about. 12 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:59,080 Absolutely. 13 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:03,160 And I came up with the idea, we've talked about this a few times, but we definitely 14 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:04,840 have different views on this. 15 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:09,560 So we're going to talk about the concept of rest and we're going to give you some of our 16 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:18,400 different perspectives about what it is and what it's for and when we do it and might 17 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,720 even touch on, and we'll talk, also we'll see where it goes. 18 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:26,720 But yeah, so I introed Shawn, so why don't you start? 19 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:27,720 Okay. 20 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,400 Let me ask, I'll ask you a question. 21 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:34,560 So let's just start with what is your, how do you see rest? 22 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:35,560 What is it? 23 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:36,560 What is rest? 24 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:37,560 Okay. 25 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:44,520 For me, I see rest when you are working hard and you need time to recuperate. 26 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,800 So you're, you're, you're, I don't want to use rest in the word rest. 27 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,920 So when you're, it's not sleep. 28 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,520 I don't think sleep and rest are the same thing to me. 29 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:55,840 They're not for me. 30 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:01,640 Um, like you can sleep, but if you've been lazy all day, you didn't get any rest. 31 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:07,200 Like I feel like rest comes from when you've been doing something that was hard, hard work, 32 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:11,560 some type of, whether it's mental, whether it's physical, whether it's spiritual, whatever 33 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:17,480 type of work you're doing, you're trying to recuperate the body to get back to the, the 34 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:22,360 energy that you needed to be at the beat to get back to the, the level of the body that 35 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:26,120 needs to be ready to go back to working hard. 36 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:27,120 Yeah. 37 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,600 And I'm going to say, I get what you're saying. 38 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:35,960 I think the sleep is in particular, and I realized you didn't start the timer, but it's 39 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:36,960 fine. 40 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:37,960 Uh, I'll start it now. 41 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:47,040 Um, and the sleep in my mind, it is a form of rest because you are not, you're not doing 42 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,560 anything, regardless of what you did during the day. 43 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,800 It's hopefully seven to hopefully eight hours. 44 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:58,000 Now with our age, it should be eight to nine hours of sleep, which is really hard to get 45 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,000 a lot of the time. 46 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,000 Yeah. 47 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,480 But in sleep, you're not doing anything. 48 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,440 Your body is recuperating. 49 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:08,000 That's actually one of the best ways that we heal and from like disease and even our, 50 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,200 our bodies heal during the time that we are sleeping. 51 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,600 So it's not just a rest for us, not just a rest for our minds as a rest for our bodies. 52 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:21,920 Um, but the, but the concept of, like, but whenever I think about rest, honestly, this 53 00:03:21,920 --> 00:03:28,200 is always a hard topic for me to think about because like rest, it, like for me, rest to 54 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:34,560 me, for me, whatever rest is kind of like you said, it's, it's kind of the same. 55 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:40,200 Like you can like ret you, you like resting after something hard, but also rest in that 56 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,080 hard thing can be mental or physical. 57 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:48,560 Like you, like there's some things I did whenever I read Redeem Your Time by Jordan Rayner, 58 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,120 great book, recommend it. 59 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:51,520 I'll link it in the show notes. 60 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,520 We'll see if I remember. 61 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:59,320 If I have my, I'll make a note of it when Shawn's talking. 62 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:00,320 But the- 63 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:01,320 Jordan Rayner, right? 64 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:02,320 Jordan Rayner. 65 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:03,320 I have his book upstairs. 66 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:09,400 But, um, the, one of the things about rest, he, he talks about this whole chapter on rest 67 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:14,880 in that book and one of the things he brings up, and I don't exactly remember, I'm going 68 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:19,120 to reread this book in the near-ish future. 69 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:23,800 There's a, but there was a time where he said, it says in the book, whenever you're doing 70 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:28,560 something physical, like, and you're doing like this time of what he calls deep work, 71 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:33,320 and he's not the coin, term he coined, I guess, but that what was being called deep work, 72 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:39,380 you're heavy in your work, whether it's physical, then go do 30 minutes or 15 to 30 minutes 73 00:04:39,380 --> 00:04:40,760 of something mental. 74 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,160 Give your body a rest, but then go, go engage your mind. 75 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:45,520 And then vice versa. 76 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,800 If you're engaging your mind at a heavy, at a heavy rate for like an hour and a half, 77 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:54,720 two hours or however long, go spend, give your mind a rest and go do something physical. 78 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:59,840 That way you get this well, this well-rounded version of yourself. 79 00:04:59,840 --> 00:05:03,680 And like, you don't, and then you also don't overwork any part of you. 80 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:12,360 And yeah, I think like the rest to me is, it's in the same vein for sure as what you're 81 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:13,360 saying. 82 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,360 Yeah, I don't know. 83 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,320 Definitely, like it's in the same vein. 84 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,840 Like, it's, but like, I think it's, there's more, like to me, there's more to it than 85 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:24,360 just what you said, but I don't disagree with what you said. 86 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,280 But like the, let's go to something else though. 87 00:05:28,280 --> 00:05:34,000 So you kind of touched on it, like you kind of said, like you rest after doing something 88 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,000 hard. 89 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,000 Yeah. 90 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,000 But is that the only time? 91 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,960 Well, I feel like this is me personal. 92 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:43,440 I feel like it should be like, I don't think you should just like, I don't think you can 93 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:49,120 get rest if you just like, for me sleeping all day, like, or sleeping all week would 94 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:53,800 be rest unless you have done something worth sleeping. 95 00:05:53,800 --> 00:06:00,200 Because otherwise I feel like laziness and sleep don't equal rest to me. 96 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:01,200 Okay. 97 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:02,200 So that makes sense. 98 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:03,200 I wasn't going to go off you. 99 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:04,200 Oh, no, no, no, no. 100 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:05,200 That's all I had. 101 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:06,200 Oh, okay. 102 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:07,200 Um, okay. 103 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,600 I lost my train of thought, which happens sometimes. 104 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,420 Um, what'd you just say? 105 00:06:14,420 --> 00:06:18,380 So I said laziness and sleep doesn't equal rest. 106 00:06:18,380 --> 00:06:20,760 So like, I feel like, oh, I remember now. 107 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:21,760 Sorry. 108 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:22,760 I remember I had a question. 109 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:29,360 Um, so is there such, if those things aren't rest, is there in that logic, is there such 110 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,480 a thing as too much rest? 111 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:42,480 Um, see, the way I see it is rest is for the re recuperating of the body, mind, spirit, 112 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:43,480 all that. 113 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:44,480 Yeah. 114 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:49,080 So once you're recuperating, you're supposed to leave the time of rest. 115 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:55,040 So like, once you feel good enough, so say like you worked eight hours really hard, mentally, 116 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,720 physically, spiritually, whatever you did that worked really hard. 117 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,420 When you put on rest mode, you were recuperating. 118 00:07:02,420 --> 00:07:07,640 It's almost like when my PS4, it'll tell you that like, uh, you can have an opportunity 119 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:11,760 to turn your PS4 off or turn it on or put it on rest mode. 120 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:17,600 When it's on rest mode, it's still doing all the things, but less like it's charging the 121 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,160 controller, it's charging whatever needs to be charged. 122 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,520 It's still putting out a signal, but it's recuperating. 123 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,000 So it's not getting overly heated that it would be then. 124 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,000 That's really good. 125 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,000 Yeah, I know. 126 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,000 I like that a lot. 127 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:36,720 Uh, I like the, like, like I said, like, I feel like sleep is a version of it, but like, 128 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:37,720 it's not the only version. 129 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:38,720 Right. 130 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,520 And like the, like, like you said, if it's off, it's off. 131 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:42,520 It's not doing anything. 132 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:43,520 Yup. 133 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:48,160 And like, and you could say with, if you're applying that to a human being, well, we're 134 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,160 still doing things. 135 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:54,440 Our bodies don't, we're not dead for eight hours, but the, but the, but the concept is 136 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:55,440 there. 137 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:56,440 I get the concept. 138 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:57,440 I get it. 139 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:58,440 I get it. 140 00:07:58,440 --> 00:07:59,440 And I like it. 141 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:03,440 The, uh, but whenever, yeah, whenever everything rest or standby mode, just like that, it's 142 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:04,440 a computer. 143 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,760 So it's just like any other piece of technology that has that, has that, like it's still using 144 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:09,760 some resources. 145 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:10,760 Yeah. 146 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,720 And it's still like, and it'd be like, it rests, rest could be just watching TV for 147 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:15,720 a little bit. 148 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:16,720 Right. 149 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:17,720 And like, you're still awake. 150 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:23,240 You're still watching, you still watching TV, but you're like, but you're not physically 151 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,760 doing any, you're kind of, you're taking that time to kind of refresh. 152 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:27,760 Right. 153 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,160 And so Shawn, let me ask another question. 154 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:35,600 Like speaking on that vein of like watching TV or doing, doing whatever, doing rest, what 155 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:36,600 do you do? 156 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,000 What is your favorite way to rest? 157 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,840 Okay. Favorite way of the rest. 158 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:46,600 Usually it's either in a watch or watching the anime. 159 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:53,800 I love watching anime or it's just watching any type of, um, action pack, relaxing type 160 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:58,920 movie or sometimes it used to even be scary movies, but like any type of, where you're 161 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:04,320 just not doing anything productive, but you're doing something to enjoy the mind or you're 162 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:08,200 doing something to recuperate. 163 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:13,440 So like if you work really, really hard, did I do believe that like, okay, get some rest, 164 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:18,480 get some sleep, but that I don't believe that like sleep always is rest because there's 165 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:24,480 some people who would just sleep 24 seven haven't done anything to work to like, to 166 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:25,480 for the sleep. 167 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:26,480 You know what I mean? 168 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,800 So it's like if you're working physically or mentally or spiritually and you need to 169 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,560 get physical rest of like sleep, I think that's good. 170 00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:39,480 But if you're not doing anything productive in any type of way, I don't think sleep just 171 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,080 equals rest all the time. 172 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:42,080 For sure. 173 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:47,840 And like, I guess with red, like with you with red, there's so many different directions 174 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:53,400 I could go right now, but honestly, like with me with rest, I think like what I do, sometimes 175 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:59,560 it will be reading a book that is engaging my mind, but like, uh, it's in the engaged 176 00:09:59,560 --> 00:10:00,960 and I might be obviously like me. 177 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,680 I was engaged, I engaged my mind all day was doing develop, I, I'm a developer. 178 00:10:04,680 --> 00:10:06,880 If you don't know, you're listening to this episode. 179 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,960 I'm a web and mobile app developer. 180 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:14,800 Have been for over five years and, but now I've been really getting into reading books 181 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,160 on leadership and other things. 182 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:21,160 And even just like sometimes the storybook before bed, uh, but like a fiction book. 183 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:28,920 Um, but like, I love like reading books, uh, about leadership and like that gives me, it's 184 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:35,040 it gives my mind a form of rest that it's still engaging, but in my mind, I'm not trying 185 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:36,400 to figure out a problem. 186 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:42,480 I'm not like with development, I'm always problem solving with, with, um, with reading 187 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:43,480 books on leadership. 188 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:50,040 It feels like it feels more like I'm doing research and like growing and like nothing 189 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,200 development doesn't grow me. 190 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:52,880 There's ways that that does. 191 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:57,400 And that's maybe a topic for a different time, but there's, um, it just does, it does something 192 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:58,400 different for me. 193 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:02,400 Like if I was reading development books, if I read, reading leadership books all day, 194 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:06,800 the development might feel like the rest, but the, uh, it's really just doing something 195 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,840 different than what I'm currently doing. 196 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,560 If I'm doing something all the time. 197 00:11:10,560 --> 00:11:17,840 Um, but yeah, um, but no, I want to, uh, I'm just thinking about, like, as you were talking, 198 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:22,560 like you've, I wasn't thinking about it before, but resting your mind, body or your spirit. 199 00:11:22,560 --> 00:11:28,440 Like when I think about resting, when I think about resting the spirit, like I think back 200 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:34,280 to again, this kind of reference, uh, reading your time again, he has a full section is 201 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:41,600 on rest, but there's also a section, a chapter on eliminating hurry and eliminating hurry 202 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,720 and like this whole books on time management. 203 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:49,200 If you didn't catch that, but, um, the, um, of limiting hurry is like being able to be 204 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:54,960 essentially like not feeling like you have to run from thing to thing, but also adding 205 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:59,680 in those times where you can just sit and be still. 206 00:11:59,680 --> 00:12:02,240 And that's the thing I'm really, really bad at. 207 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:10,080 Like I remember a time in, I was in, um, I was in junior ROTC in a high school and we 208 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:11,680 went to universal studio. 209 00:12:11,680 --> 00:12:12,680 We're at universal studio. 210 00:12:12,680 --> 00:12:18,560 We were down in, uh, we're down in Florida for, I forget where we were actually down 211 00:12:18,560 --> 00:12:23,360 there for, but we made a day of going to universal on top of what we were already doing. 212 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,480 And my friends I was with, they're like, Thomas, like, we don't know where we're going. 213 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,320 I have to sit down and look at, look at the map. 214 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,080 I'm like, no, the ride's right there. 215 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:32,080 Let's go. 216 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,960 I don't want to say, I don't, I don't want to stand still. 217 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,000 I don't, I, I hate it to be honest. 218 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,000 I hate standing still. 219 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,400 I hate standing still. 220 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,120 I hate feeling like I'm not doing anything. 221 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:49,680 So whenever it entered into the concept, enter the concept of being still for your own benefit, 222 00:12:49,680 --> 00:12:52,480 that's a hard concept for me to grasp sometimes. 223 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:57,220 And I've had some of the most best experiences with the Lord with what intention was spending 224 00:12:57,220 --> 00:13:03,080 that intentional time of just like laying on the couch and just not saying anything. 225 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:07,720 There's nothing happening around me besides nothing happening around me. 226 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,280 And I have like a Bible verse in my head. 227 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:10,800 I'm just meditating on that verse. 228 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,240 I'm just being still. 229 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,680 I think God knows that's hard for me to do. 230 00:13:14,680 --> 00:13:21,000 So I'm like, so I'm just, I'm doing this, I'm doing this to record, to get more connected 231 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,000 with the Lord. 232 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,560 And like, especially if there's something I want to hear from him on and there's something 233 00:13:25,560 --> 00:13:28,840 I want to talk to, you want to directly talk to him about. 234 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:35,620 And I know that might sound weird to people that don't believe in God, but don't believe 235 00:13:35,620 --> 00:13:40,840 in God and maybe aren't as for, aren't, I shouldn't say as firm, but like that, maybe 236 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,360 don't understand those concepts. 237 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:48,240 But if you have questions, shoot us a message or your local pastor. 238 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:57,780 But like, I think resting your spirit, at least in a concept of Christianity, is spending 239 00:13:57,780 --> 00:14:01,520 intentional time in prayer with the Lord, doing nothing else. 240 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:06,160 Like, I wouldn't, for me, I don't, I wouldn't, with me, I don't even turn worship music on 241 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:11,600 during that time because I want my mind to be directly focused on what I'm thinking about 242 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:12,600 and focused on him. 243 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:17,400 I feel like there's a time for doing the worship music and like going crazy on your own or 244 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:18,400 like worshiping. 245 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:23,200 There's also time to worship by just literally physically doing nothing and just engaging 246 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,800 your mind with him and like in your spirit. 247 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:26,800 Yeah. 248 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,680 What do you think? 249 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,160 I agree with most of that. 250 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:35,240 I mean, the only thing I also think worship music can be a time of rest because for me, 251 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:42,800 that's usually like, for me, I use worship music a lot for rest. 252 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:47,840 Like in my mind, cause it's so like, there's always something where I'm like, okay, I need 253 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,200 to be doing this better X, Y, and Z. 254 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:55,480 And then like my mind just thinks of like, okay, I've been, I've been in a season of 255 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:56,840 a valley, right? 256 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:02,640 So I'm like, okay, nonstop, nonstop, gotta keep getting out of this valley that I put 257 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:03,640 myself in. 258 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:04,640 Yeah. 259 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:10,800 So I've been trying, I was like, all right, so what gives me peace and rest during this, 260 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,040 the season of the valley is literally worship music. 261 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:19,560 It's like, cause it's like when I'm reading the Bible, I read it and in a standpoint, 262 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,120 okay, God, what are you giving me today? 263 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:23,120 Okay. 264 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,320 What, what, what, what mission do you have me on today? 265 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,080 Where do you want me to go today? 266 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,480 Like, you know, inside of, I will not read the Bible. 267 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:34,160 I'm always thinking of like, all right, Lord, what, what, what are you having my heart set? 268 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:35,880 Like, so I start thinking a lot. 269 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:36,880 Yeah. 270 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,440 So when I'm, when I'm worshiping, it's just all about God. 271 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:43,800 And it's like all my, all my problems, all my focus is not on me. 272 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,840 It's just thank you God for everything that you blessed me with. 273 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:52,480 Thank you God for the world you made my friends, my family, like, you know, I mean, just, it's 274 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,880 a thankfulness and it's not like me focused so I can like rest. 275 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,760 It's like, okay, no, worry about your problems. 276 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:00,760 God will handle it. 277 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:01,760 You know what I mean? 278 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:02,760 It's like that. 279 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:03,760 I know. 280 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:04,760 I know. 281 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:05,760 I 100% agree with that. 282 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,160 Like the, because worship music in itself, like I wasn't saying it wasn't a rest. 283 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:14,720 I'm saying that for the form of rest, I, I have the hardest time doing is being still. 284 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:19,680 So whenever I want to be as still as I possibly can be, like in my mind, mind, mind and body, 285 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,400 I can't have worship music on. 286 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:22,680 That's me personally. 287 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:28,280 My mind will want, I want to listen to the worship music more than I actually think. 288 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,840 I want to listen to the worship music more than what, if either something specific I 289 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,280 want to talk to him about. 290 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,000 And I think that makes sense. 291 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:41,280 The worship music, you were kind of hinting at it. 292 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,880 It takes your attention. 293 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,480 It takes your attention as long as your focus is on God. 294 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:51,240 It takes your attention off of yourself, off, like you said, off your valleys, off anything 295 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:55,400 going on in your life and put your focus purely on him. 296 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:59,840 So it gives your mind that rest because you can be like, God, this isn't my fight. 297 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,280 I'm going to give this to you and I'm going to rest. 298 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:03,280 I'm going to rest. 299 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:04,280 I'm going to rest in you. 300 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:05,280 That is so good. 301 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:10,000 I'm going to rest in you as I focus just solely on you while I worship you. 302 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:14,560 And I, I, I, and all I was saying before is like, I, I, I feel like there are times to 303 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:15,560 do worship music. 304 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:20,600 And like for, for, I think very like strategically, like when the best time is to optimize, you 305 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,640 know, it's like, obviously you don't, it can be, I can get toxic in certain areas. 306 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:30,720 But the, but like whenever for like for me, worship, worship music, I do listen to it. 307 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:36,000 I do get a lot of great things out of it by like, um, why, why worship him? 308 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,600 It's not for, obviously it's not for me. 309 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,920 It's for him and it's for worshiping him. 310 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:42,360 And it gives me so much. 311 00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:44,000 It gives, God does give me peace. 312 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:49,040 I think another piece of rest, there should be peace within the rest. 313 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,000 If there's not peace in your rest and you're not actually experiencing rest. 314 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,560 I agree. 315 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:57,600 And there's, so like that's a question for you guys that are listening. 316 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:58,600 What gives you peace? 317 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,360 What gives you, what gives you peace? 318 00:18:00,360 --> 00:18:01,360 What is rest for you? 319 00:18:01,360 --> 00:18:02,360 This isn't the end of the episode. 320 00:18:02,360 --> 00:18:05,080 I just felt like asking you guys that question. 321 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:06,920 Like think about that, write something down. 322 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:11,000 Like what gives me peace and like, uh, what gives me peace? 323 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,000 Is it praying to God? 324 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,000 Is it meditating? 325 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:19,320 Um, is it just like spending time with the same time with family whenever they're, whenever 326 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,160 they're not crazy? 327 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:27,640 Uh, and, um, I just think, I just think that I don't know where I was going. 328 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:33,080 My mind, I, I sometimes I start saying words and hoping my mind, hoping my brain will catch 329 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:34,080 up. 330 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,400 You were going like, what gives you peace? 331 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:40,320 Like when you were giving the subjects, I started going off to ask that question, but 332 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,600 like, and I was like, for me, like, I get, like I said, I get a lot of peace. 333 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:48,480 That's where I get a lot of peace and just talking to God, but I also get a lot, I also 334 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,240 get like a lot of peace. 335 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:56,000 I get some more, some peace, not as much, but get some peace, peace of mind of just 336 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:00,560 like if I'm getting frustrated with work, of moving my mind away from that and doing 337 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,280 quick prayer and then go do things, something else real quick. 338 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:11,280 Um, my mind is, it's like a meter of like, um, of unset, unsettling uncertainty and like 339 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:15,600 being like, oh my gosh, I can't, like I've made this big mistake or I've been working 340 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,040 on this thing all day and I haven't figured it out. 341 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,160 Like I haven't solved this problem. 342 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:25,520 And then I like stop, go take a break, calm down, like bring that level, bring that like 343 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:30,200 stress level down and then go, then go back, get some peace and go back to work, uh, and 344 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:34,440 go back to work and then you're better off and then it's a lot easier to actually solve 345 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:35,720 that problem later on. 346 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:40,120 Um, but yeah, cause like, I feel like again, like it's hard, it's hard for me to break 347 00:19:40,120 --> 00:19:41,280 it hard for me to take breaks. 348 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:48,480 Like rest for me, like this is, um, something with, in the concept of rest, um, um, you 349 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:49,840 know what, if you have something. 350 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:50,840 Yeah. 351 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:55,880 I was going to say for me, um, I think there's different levels of rest too, right? 352 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:03,040 So like, um, like today us, me and the boys, me, Thomas and the boys, we're going to go 353 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,280 and enjoy each other's company. 354 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:06,800 To me, that's rest for me. 355 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:12,720 Like, you know, I mean, that is rest when I'm able to hang with my family, friends and, 356 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:18,960 um, whether it's sometimes playing video games or if it's watching anime or if it's watching 357 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:25,280 football or whenever I'm not doing something productive with my friends or family, it just 358 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:26,280 feels like rats. 359 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:27,280 Like, you know what I mean? 360 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:31,400 Like if we're just hanging, going somewhere or we're on a trip or something, you know 361 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:32,400 what I mean? 362 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,720 Like anything that's not like, um, but I mean by productive, I mean, like it's not like 363 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,520 work related in any type of way usually, you know what I mean? 364 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:45,440 Like when it's not like making you like critically think very hard or stuff like that, when you're 365 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,680 just with your friends and family and you're able to just go and enjoy each other's company. 366 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,000 To me, that's rest too. 367 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,440 Like that's why I was saying there's like different degrees of rest. 368 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:58,400 So like today me and Thomas and the bros, we're about to all gonna just rest. 369 00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,400 You know what I mean? 370 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,160 That's what it's going to feel like going on a trip, hanging out and that's a rest. 371 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:04,960 And my favorite rocket ship. 372 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,680 So yeah, see, that's what I mean. 373 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:07,680 That's right. 374 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,440 But, uh, I think like, I agree with that. 375 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:14,880 I think with me, I know sometimes spent like me being, I brought this up before. 376 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:15,880 I don't like a turn. 377 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,240 I don't personally like to turn to introvert versus extrovert because I don't think, I 378 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:26,760 think they're like just labels that we use, but, um, the, uh, I lean more towards the 379 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:27,760 introverted side. 380 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:34,000 I'm more, I'm more of like, uh, I like to be secluded, uh, more, not more often than 381 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,560 not, but I like to have my seclusion. 382 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:37,560 Right. 383 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,280 So whenever, if I'm spending like multiple days around people, that's not rest for me, 384 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,920 even if we're having a good time, eventually it's not rest anymore. 385 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,360 Eventually I'm like, dude, I just need to be by myself and I need to rest on my own. 386 00:21:47,360 --> 00:21:48,360 I think that's fair. 387 00:21:48,360 --> 00:21:52,920 And like, I think other people like you, you're, you're, you're a lot more out, you're not 388 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,320 a, you're, whenever you're around people, you can be a lot more outgoing. 389 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:57,320 Right. 390 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,640 And I think I, uh, I want to, I just said it like that just to, to, we're focusing on 391 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,160 people and our interactions with them. 392 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:08,120 Um, not, but like the, um, and like you love being around people. 393 00:22:08,120 --> 00:22:12,080 I feel like you could be around people 24 seven and be happy all the time and be, and 394 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,360 be, as long as it's a good situation. 395 00:22:14,360 --> 00:22:19,320 Like you said, if your, if your friends and family and everything's calm, right. 396 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:20,320 Then you'll be fine. 397 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:24,240 Even if it's common for me, I'm like, I gotta, I gotta go home and I gotta go spend some 398 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:25,240 time by myself. 399 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:26,240 Well, I think that's healthy. 400 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,400 Like I agree a hundred percent with you. 401 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,480 I think it becomes not rest if it's all the time. 402 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,440 Like, so I do think seclusion at some points is good. 403 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,920 Like even if you just say, I feel like everybody needs that time. 404 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:39,920 Yeah. 405 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,280 Like everybody needs that time of seclusion. 406 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:47,520 Especially, I'm going to say especially people that consider themselves an extrovert. 407 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:48,520 Yeah. 408 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,160 Because if you're always around people, you're not letting your mind take a rest and you 409 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,160 still sit alone with the Lord. 410 00:22:55,160 --> 00:23:00,720 Like, like even, like even if you have a family, like you need to have a space that's just 411 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:01,720 yours, right? 412 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:02,720 I agree. 413 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,440 Where you can just be like, well, you can, well, you can spend time with God. 414 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:06,440 Maybe that's outside. 415 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:07,440 They can walk in the woods. 416 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:12,800 Like I can't wait to live near woods again where I can like go on a nice hike for a couple 417 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,800 hours and not worry about anything. 418 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:20,200 I think my, I would think about my form, a form of rest for me is leaving the house and 419 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,160 being with friends in most circumstances. 420 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,680 Like whenever I'm home by myself too much, right. 421 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,640 And like I say, like I want to, and I get out of the house. 422 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:35,840 Like sometimes I'll get rest leaving the house because I work from home because if I'm home, 423 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:41,040 and everything I have to, everything I want or have to get done is pretty much here. 424 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,200 So or most of it is not everything. 425 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,360 Most of it is here in the house. 426 00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:48,720 And if I'm not in the house, I'm not thinking about it as much. 427 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,720 I'll say not thinking about it as much. 428 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:55,640 And like, um, like I'll go to a park and I'll read, I'll read my books and not have to worry 429 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:56,640 about anything. 430 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:57,640 That's good rest. 431 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:58,640 Yeah, that's right. 432 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:05,560 And it's like, I, I think we're hitting something very, we're very consistently and it's, I'm 433 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,040 going to try and word this. 434 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,680 We've said it, you've said it multiple times. 435 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,160 I said it and I said it, but not directly. 436 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:16,320 You said it directly, pretty much doing anything for extended a period of time. 437 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:21,960 Like if it, even if it extended as in like, like, I don't know, I guess that's to your 438 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,280 own perception of what you consider an extended period of time. 439 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:29,560 But um, the, for an extended period of time, you're just like, you consider it rest for 440 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:30,840 a short amount of time. 441 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,120 Like if you do anything for a long amount of time, it's not rest anymore because it's 442 00:24:34,120 --> 00:24:35,120 what you're doing consistently. 443 00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:36,120 Right. 444 00:24:36,120 --> 00:24:42,520 And so like, I feel like people that live a consistently like relaxed life, like what 445 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,200 do you do for rest? 446 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,320 How do you, like what do you do? 447 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,480 That's so good. 448 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:55,320 And like, uh, so I feel like, I don't know, it just got me thinking because this just 449 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,240 like, I don't know, like this conversation, like kind of worked that out of me. 450 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,480 Like if you're doing anything for a long period of time, like sometimes my brain will tell 451 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:08,920 me like, or like Thomas, you need to stop my body right now, especially like cause of 452 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,000 my medical issues. 453 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:14,080 But like, well, tell me Thomas, you need to stop and take a rest. 454 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:19,320 And I, my body will say that my brain will be like, no, no, keep moving. 455 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,720 You got things to do. 456 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:26,200 And sometimes it's, uh, but sometimes you gotta listen to like, for me, I gotta listen 457 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:27,200 to your body. 458 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:28,200 You gotta listen to your spirit. 459 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,600 Your brain, my, my brain is go, go, go, go, go. 460 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,520 It's like rest does not compute. 461 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,520 But that's a, that's a good thing to listen to your spirit. 462 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,920 Cause I mean like there's times when you're, and Thomas, you're very productive. 463 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:47,240 So like, that's why I can always say that like you, you can actually deserve a break. 464 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:52,140 There's some people in life where you don't deserve a break because you've been taking 465 00:25:52,140 --> 00:25:53,540 a break the entire time. 466 00:25:53,540 --> 00:25:54,960 So it's not rest anymore. 467 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,720 You know what I mean? 468 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:01,960 And when that happens, like I have friends who were like that for a while who, who just 469 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,640 would just lay in every day. 470 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:09,800 The rest turned into, uh, what I would consider laziness. 471 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:15,640 Like it turned into, okay, instead of just, you're taking time to recuperate, you're just 472 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,080 recuperating all the time. 473 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:22,040 So now you're not even, you're not even recuperating at this point because now your body's been 474 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:27,080 ready for you to do something and you're not doing anything. 475 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:32,160 So by not doing anything, you're just not getting rest and you're not doing anything 476 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,320 productive to produce anything. 477 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,540 So now you're just being lazy. 478 00:26:36,540 --> 00:26:41,160 If you're not stressing yourself out in any area, then you have nothing to rest from. 479 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,320 Right. 480 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:49,880 And like, uh, so like if you believe, if so, like if you're, if you're also stressing yourself 481 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:56,400 out all the time, then like, and if you're like me and you, if you're like me and you're 482 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,560 always trying to consistently grow, but then you're not taking that time, like we're talking 483 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,360 about sleep as asleep, as taking that time to recuperate. 484 00:27:04,360 --> 00:27:11,040 If you're not taking that time for time of rest, time of rest to just, uh, let your body, 485 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,880 your mind recuperate and like, and pretty much do a reset. 486 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:15,880 Right. 487 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:20,000 So it's like, it's like, it's like, it's kind of like do a restart, restarting your computer 488 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,960 because whenever you restart your computer, it ultimately, it shuts all the resources 489 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:25,960 down. 490 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,480 It shuts all the, it turns, it exits out, exits out of all the applications and asks 491 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,840 you if you're sure. 492 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,720 And you say yes. 493 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,800 And it shuts everything down. 494 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,440 And where they want it to be, then it wakes itself back up and like, it wakes itself back 495 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:47,920 up and it does whatever routine it needs to do to restart itself. 496 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,720 So what it's doing is shutting everything down and starting off with a fresh plate, 497 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:56,040 with a resource that where your resources aren't fully taken up and your free, your 498 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,040 resource. 499 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,960 And like, I'm not the best at analogies sometimes on the fly. 500 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,600 So I feel like that made sense. 501 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:03,600 No, it made sense. 502 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:11,360 The, uh, so like if you stressing yourself out all the time, like I do sometimes, I'm 503 00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:16,840 like, I don't even think, like to say that you deserve rest, I feel like it's an understatement. 504 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,960 I feel like you just need to take it. 505 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:25,000 Like the, you just need to force yourself to take a, take, take some rest because if 506 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,000 you don't, you're going to crash. 507 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,000 Nope. 508 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,440 You're going to crash and you're going to burn and you won't be, then you won't be productive 509 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,360 and the choice will be made. 510 00:28:32,360 --> 00:28:34,200 If you don't make the choice, it will be made for you. 511 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,200 Yep. 512 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,200 You don't want to burn yourself out. 513 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,880 That's what happens to a lot of people. 514 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,320 So it is important, especially if you're doing a lot of things productively to take time 515 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,320 to rest. 516 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:44,320 Why? 517 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:45,320 Because then you produce better work. 518 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:46,320 Yes. 519 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,400 Um, no, that's really good. 520 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,520 And I think that I feel like that's a good place to end it. 521 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,920 Um, so guys, thank you for listening to this episode. 522 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:55,920 We love you guys. 523 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:56,920 Yeah. 524 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:01,840 And like, if you liked this episode, let us know on Spotify, let us know what you thought 525 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:02,840 about it. 526 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:07,840 You can, you can comment if you like, if you 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yeah, if you at that time and you got the few seconds, I mean, I know 539 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:48,840 you have the few seconds. 540 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:49,840 Absolutely. 541 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:54,080 I'm kind of rambling, but, um, but no guys, we appreciate you. 542 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,000 Um, and, uh, yeah, I also want to point out real quick. 543 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:02,680 We did have a comment asking about that Nate episode, if we could expand on something. 544 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:03,680 Yeah. 545 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,960 And so I haven't asked him yet, but I feel like I want to have Nate back on to go and 546 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:08,960 do it. 547 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,160 Uh, she wants you to expand on something specific. 548 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,160 Okay. 549 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,160 And it was a good question. 550 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:20,280 Um, it was, well, we'll talk about it later, but the, uh, in future episodes, we'll expand 551 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:21,280 on it. 552 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:22,280 Cut that out too. 553 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:23,280 All right guys. 554 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:24,280 We'll see you later. 555 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:29,280 See you later.