Welcome to Technically Short!
Alright, what's going on guys?
So, eventually we'll have an intro.
We don't know when yet, but eventually.
Maybe without Mark season 2.
We promise we'll get an intro for you guys at some point.
Yeah, at some point. We don't necessarily have a plan for that.
But we do have it on our to-do list.
Actually, it goes into our topic for the day.
We'll feed in toward the part of the vision of the podcast.
I see what you did there.
Yeah, we really always want to talk about what vision is, what vision isn't.
And we're really just going to have a discussion on it.
We were talking about it a little bit earlier.
And we may or may not have some differentiating views,
which honestly is part of the reason we started this podcast.
That's very true.
So, Charm, why don't you start?
What do you see as vision?
Vision is the what.
I was wondering, I thought vision was the why for a while.
So I used to think, okay, it's the why behind you, the reason why you're doing something.
But actually, it's the what behind what you're doing.
See, our vision here is to help millions of people.
That's our vision.
That's the reason why we do our podcast, and so we can help people.
You care if I jump in real quick?
Yeah, go ahead.
I'm going to ask you a question.
You say it's to help millions of people.
But that vision in itself is defined.
And that itself, I agree with it's to help people,
but that's very vague.
Very broad.
In what way are we going to help people?
We're going to help people by our testimony and by testimonies of others
and the people who are listening so they can get some spiritual healing,
but also some mental and physical healing as well.
That's good.
I think the other day, Sean and I,
this will give you a little sneak peek of what we want to start doing more of in the future as well.
Just like us having one-on-one time with each other talking about the future of the podcast
and talking vision and what we plan to do that we can give you guys a better experience.
That's something like planning out an intro
and also how we plan on helping others in the future, other guests we plan to have on.
But we sat down for like an hour the other day,
and we thought we were talking about vision the whole time.
We wanted a statement that would really,
if you're on Spotify or actually if you're anywhere,
you might be able to see the updated description of the podcast,
which says the vision of Technically Short is,
and I need to change that.
I might change it by the time this episode comes out.
But it's something I don't have it memorized, word for word yet,
but if you have it on your phone, Sean, you can bring that up.
But essentially what we were doing is talking purpose.
And the vision and purpose are two very distinct things.
And this is something Sean and I were talking about earlier today, earlier this morning,
because we were actually recording in the morning for the first time.
We were talking about the differences between vision and purpose.
And I personally believe, I feel like I mix up the two a lot.
And he just said, which I agree with, the vision is the what,
but if the vision is the what, the purpose is the why.
Oh, sweet.
So what we wrote down as the vision statement, which really is actually the purpose statement.
But it goes, the vision for the Technically Short podcast is,
with drastically different perspectives, give our listeners the tools to grow personally
and live the lives they've been called to lead.
And that's going to be through our discussions and the topics that we pick.
The topics, the reasons why we pick the topics that we pick.
If they do not align with that purpose, then we don't do with the topic.
And if there's a guest that we want to have on,
we believe that this guest has something to say that will help the help of changing somebody's life
in a way that will help maybe give you a new understanding,
maybe give you a new understanding,
maybe give you a new perspective on something that maybe you had no idea about before.
Like I think a lot of things that Dave talked about in a previous episode,
but Dave Miller talked about in one of our previous episodes about like going through alcoholism
and like what that was like and the community did in his life.
And that's a completely different perspective on community,
but things I've experienced in different ways.
So it like gives people, it gives also people that maybe going through certain things
that Sean and I haven't gone through.
Like not every episode is going to be a guest, it's going to be a testimony.
But it's going to be something that we're going to invite people on
that we believe they have something that aligns with our purpose for the podcast
and aligns with the vision of guiding people and helping these,
with Sean saying the millions of people we want to help in the future.
Absolutely.
We say millions, not saying like that's one thing I want to touch on.
A vision is not supposed to be small.
A vision is like we say millions, I said thousands, he goes, no, let's go millions.
Sean likes diving in head first.
That's part of the reason like this is good to do with him
because we are based different perspectives kind of molds a different kind of vision
that either of us would do on our own.
And I think like...
And sharpened sign.
Yeah, I think like the...
Yeah, I think like with a vision, with a vision we're going to have,
that we do have for this, we just don't have it written down yet, which we will do.
Absolutely.
That our plan is to just strategically and intentionally execute this vision
in a way that will benefit our listeners more than it benefits us.
And it could be like I feel if a vision isn't to help...
This is my own perspective.
If a vision is just for yourself, then it's kind of small.
Yeah.
It's kind of a small vision, regardless if you're like, I'm going to make a million dollars.
And that's not a bad thing to go for, like a good bad goal.
Right.
But it's...
But to me, I'm like that kind of sounds like a small vision in comparison to what could be happening,
like expanded from that.
What do you think, Sean?
I agree.
I feel like your vision, especially as leaders, as we talk,
it should be more purposeful for us to have a vision to help others than it is for ourselves.
Like the goal isn't so Sean could get a new Bugatti or something crazy,
like a nice ridiculous million dollar outfit.
That's stupid.
Like in my eyes, those are horrible visions.
Visions should be like an area where like the Bible says and the Lord says,
this is how Baca 2.2, write the vision, make it plain on the tablet so he may run who reads it.
So like anybody should be able to read your vision and be like,
oh, OK, this is going to help X, Y and Z how many people.
That's good. Yeah.
Like this is who I'm going to help.
Right.
This is who I'm going to help and this is how and how many people like minimum that I plan that I that I that I or we want to help with this.
I think this is I won't quote this perfectly because I just heard on podcast once.
And this is like not everybody's perspective.
But this was it's very I was very odd when I heard it for the first time.
I heard John Maxwell say this on a podcast.
I think it was on the John Maxwell leadership podcast.
I think this is probably weeks ago. So excuse me if I don't say this right.
But the I believe you said that he never he was I I know that he said this.
I never set a goal. I've never set goals.
I never will. It was because anybody can set a goal.
Anybody can set a goal. Everybody does set goals, but not like like the minority accomplishes them.
So it's because I he was I he was I create vision and I plan.
I don't know if that's exactly what he said, but it's good.
It's essentially I plan that I plan to take action and the goals would just kind of fall in place.
And like the so like the goal if you have a goal, if you have the setting these goals, they should be aligned with some sort of vision.
So like if I don't set a goal, don't say he's like, don't I don't set goals.
I just I just have this very far out vision that I just do everything that everything I do is for that vision.
So then the goals just happen without meaning to set them. And like that's how I interpreted what he said.
I think that's right. And like I'm like I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not saying you not set goals.
I feel like I feel like setting goals is inherently a good thing, but it can't like what he said.
Anybody can set one. So if you're not doing it intentionally, then it's going to fail.
If you're if you're just like, I'm going to lose weight or how much weight are you going to lose? Right.
Like if you're like if you're this like I just want to lose weight, well, then what are you going to how are you going to lose weight?
What's your plan? Like are you going to be consistent with it? What's your vision?
The vision is like the vision. OK, why do you want to lose weight? I want to lose weight so I can live at home.
I want to lose weight. It's not me specifically, because I feel like I'm 80 pounds sometimes.
But like the the I want to lose weight because I want to live because I want to lose weight so I can.
This is me personally. I would say personally, but not personally lose weight so I can serve every serve at my highest capacity for for as long as I can.
And I would serve as many people as I can.
The like I feel like that goes along the lines of like for me and my brain.
Like, OK, maybe I'm mixing up purpose and vision again.
But like I feel like over vision and goal have to be distinct.
But I'm going to go off that topic. I feel like I'm rabbit hole in a little bit.
Yeah, that kind of going back on it. Run back to vision real quick.
And before I hop into this, Sean, you have anything else you want to bring up?
Yeah, I would say like a good vision statement describes the bigger picture impact that you're doing day to day.
So our vision should be something that you work currently doing, but we're going to try to do on a larger scale.
So like whatever you're doing, like say the person who was trying to lose weight or whatever, it's good that they want to lose weight.
But it can't be just like I want to lose one pound.
OK, so you do this, you lose one pound. It's too small of a goal.
Like what you said was way better because it was like the person's trying to lose weight for a specific purpose for a long period of time,
a long, a long impact that they would have on their work or whatever they're doing.
And that's what a vision is. So I think you said it well, because I mean, a lot of people think like a goal is the same as a vision,
which it's not because a goal is separate because like I would say like a vision has the way it's described is like a vision is a picture of a big impact of work
that you're doing. So like it has to be big. It's not something you could just be like, well, my goal is for me to go back to school.
That's my vision. It's like, no, that's not the same thing. Like you go back to school. But what's the impact?
What is what is the future you're going to do? What's the bigger picture? You can't be just going back to school.
It could be like I want to go back to school so I could pastor millions of people. Now, that could be your vision.
But if you're just saying I want to go back to school, that's just a goal. And there's difference between vision and goal.
Right. That's cool. That's good. That's good. And I like it kind of brings me to a point I wanted to bring up.
This kind of goes back to a previous episode that we did with a healthy rejection where we're talking.
We talked about saying no to good so you can actually see. I reworded things a little bit, but where we talk about not saying no to the good thing.
So you can actually make actually make space for the great in this in this case.
You know, the great is pursuing your vision and the more serious that vision, the more you're going to say no to.
And that's because if you're serious about pursuing not just personal growth, but personal growth in a very particular area or your vision is to be able to have even if it's like just ten thousand dollars in your savings.
That's your vision. And like you're serious about that. You're going to say no to a lot of things.
If your goal is to, you know, if you go is that like I if your goal, your vision is to be one of the this is going to be bizarre, but like the most fit person in the world, then you're going to say no to a lot of things.
You're going to say yes to a lot of it. Then you're going to say yes to a lot of things that are going to align with that vision.
It's like whenever you're whenever you're pursuing a vision that you're serious about self discipline and like the through the spirit self control really plays a big part.
Oh, absolutely. Easily like the because without self control, without being it without self control, without discipline, a vision is a vision itself will perish because if you cannot pursue the if you can set a vision, you can write it down.
If you not if you do not intentionally pursue it, it will it will go to somebody else.
I agree. Easily. Somebody will take it. Somebody will take it and they won't hear from you though.
Just like somebody will do it for somebody will do it.
I've heard some people say this and if you can correct me, Sean, if I'm wrong on this, but some people some people believe I don't know if I actually believe this or not.
God gives a calling if you do not if you do not accept the call, then he'll give it to somebody else.
Oh, no, that's 100% true.
I'm like that is 100% because like because there's so many people were in like God has given all of us specific gifts and specific callings.
So many people don't walk in their calling.
And if like, for instance, like when I was younger, I always thought about like being a pastor again stuff done.
And it's like, boom, I didn't do any of it.
So then it was like somebody else already did my my what I had a heart for, which is to lead like a multi-culture type of church.
That's what I go to now. And but what I'm saying is if you don't do what God's asking you to do, somebody else will.
Yeah. And that's 100% true. Easily.
I agree. 100% your your purpose, your calling in life.
If you don't do your dream, you don't do your goal, you don't do what God has asked you to do, somebody else will. And you just will be the one out of it.
You're like, oh, man, I had these ideas. I should have did this. I should have did this.
I should have you can even have proof. Like there's so many people who have patents on really cool stuff.
Yeah. And then there's other people who had the exact same idea.
You know, I mean, and they just never went forward with it.
And like, that's good. I keep wanting to go back. I'm looking for my notes and as I wrote them down for this, I wrote them in a very consecutive order about like the last one was the more serious division, the more you need to say no to.
Right. And I'm sorry if I derailed what you were saying.
No, I'm loving it. It's a good thing.
And I just finished like last night, I just finished like the actual at the end of each one of these chapters and actionable step actionable steps to take and the 21 irrefutable loss of leadership by John Maxwell in this chapter.
I just finished. It's called the law of sacrifice and the whole like kind of slogan, I guess you'd say for this chapter is you must give up to go up.
And he was like, in order to in order to personally grow in order to grow in this case, this was in leadership in order to grow in any area of your life, you have to set you have to make sacrifices.
And he was like, and like one of the actionable things in that chapter was write down two lists, one things that you're willing to give up and one list of things that you're not in order in like in like that will tell you you have to take some intentional time and think about that stuff of like, what am I willing to give up to pursue to pursue this division to make sure I can make in order to be the best leader I can be in order for me to be the best developer I can be to be like what am I willing to get?
What am I willing to give up in order in order to do that?
I get my he was like, what are you going to do?
Like what you're going to do your time?
What about your energy, your resources, relationships, relationships with friends and family?
Like, what are you willing to go?
What are you willing not to give up and make it and I make sure you're thinking about which one's going to go where.
And because like there's no wrong answer to that, I don't believe.
But if there's nothing going on what you're willing to give up, then you're not going to be able to do anything.
I think that's so good. I think.
I think you're not going to be able to do anything great.
I love that honestly, because it's truthful.
Like think about how much Jesus had to give up for us.
Right. Yeah.
In order for us to be able to attain heaven, Jesus had to give everything.
He sacrificed his life, his time on earth so that we can go to heaven.
And I think about that, like the disciples and stuff as they went through a huge sacrifice for us to have churches how we have churches now.
Right.
Like so the sacrifice is so good because like you have to be a good leader.
You're going to have to sacrifice something, whether it be your time, whether it be the activities you're doing, whether it be your habits.
You're going to have to sacrifice a lot of things to become great.
I agree 100 percent Thomas.
That's 100 percent wise.
Wise counsel. So Sean, I think we have maybe like today we're making sure we cut it out around 30 minutes.
We have about nine and a half minutes left.
So I'm going to end not end.
Maybe we'll see the next episode.
Every question was the last question.
But I already had one written down.
Actually, that's exactly the question I was going to.
I thought I had a different question down there, but the same one I thought of.
So maybe two questions, but I'm just going to let you talk on it.
Sean, what is a vision you have for your life and what have you or what are you willing to give up?
OK, vision for my life.
I believe God will use me so I can preach the gospel to millions of people.
What I'm willing to give up, I'm willing to give up everything that is not for of God.
And I'm also willing to give up time and bad habits because I have a lot of them.
If I'm being honest, I have a lot of bad habits.
Right. Name some of the bad habits.
I would say if I'm starting off with bad habits, spending unwisely.
I do that a lot and I know that God's working more with me on that.
And I know that I'll be good.
Because it's first knowing you have a problem, then starting to do steps of wisdom
and then taking the counsel that your brothers and sisters who are doing prosperous
and they'll listen to them.
That's one of my biggest bad habits.
Other bad habit?
You don't have to go into all of them.
Whatever comes through your head.
Yeah, I would say wasting time too.
Wasting time.
Right now I'm trying to do more leadership books, trying to read those.
I do a lot of leadership programs.
I was doing the college institute thing, classes for that.
I haven't did that in a while.
But I've done more of leadership devotions in the morning and stuff like that.
I do a lot of those.
I try to get as many stuff I can do about learning to be a better leader and growing.
And also growing in a godly leadership style too.
I like to do both so I can become the best leader I can possibly be.
I think it's about sacrificing your bad habits.
Sacrificing pretty much everything for God's purpose.
Anything that you can't.
That's honestly really good.
That's not what I would have thought of.
So that's really good.
Because whenever I think of giving things up, it's like...
I think I was going off what he said, giving up my energy.
I'll spend more time on energy.
Not just spending the time that I would otherwise be spending doing something else.
Kind of what you were saying.
Because those other things could have been good things, not necessarily bad habits.
But energies.
I'll spend...
My energy, I try to get the most sleep I possibly can.
I try to get the most good nights of sleep that I possibly can.
Of eight hours. Eight to nine hours.
But if I'm serious enough about my vision,
there's going to be a point where I need to be willing to give up some of those hours of sleep to pursue the vision.
And be like, okay, tomorrow's going to be a little rough, but it'll be worth it for tonight because I'm in a groove.
No, man, that was really good.
I honestly really think that's something people can talk about.
The reason I asked you specifically, what you're here, the reason I asked you,
was because I... not because I didn't know... one reason I didn't know what you were going to say,
and I feel like I knew it would be interesting and good for the listeners to hear,
but also I wanted to kind of, in a sense, to coach you into thinking about what these things are.
And then other people can hear it and be like, okay, what are my things that I'm willing to give up?
And then now they can be like, what are my bad habits that are pulling me away from my vision?
Yeah, so good.
What am I doing right now that are not for my own good?
It's so good.
And they might be good for me, they might feel good for me in the moment,
but those things compound.
I really love, so many people say it, consistency compounds.
And that is for good things and for bad things.
That's true.
So even if it doesn't feel something you're doing right now, it doesn't feel bad for you now,
it will be really bad for you if you continue to do it in the future, every day or however habitually you do it.
There will be a reckoning with that.
There will be a knock at the door.
It won't be what you want to say.
You open the door, you want what you see.
And if consistency compounds and we only have so much time on this earth,
then you should be like, I believe, at least for me,
I want to do all the things I can personally do to consistently compound in a positive,
growing, sustainable and life-giving way that I can then, like I said before,
then I can serve others at a higher capacity.
That's so good.
And that's part of my vision.
Part of it is to serve people using the gifts that he's given me to serve people at my highest capacity,
that he's given me.
And whenever I'm not at my highest capacity, I can lean on him.
And then our capacities can grow.
Absolutely.
Our capacities can grow, but whenever we're weak, we lean on him and we make a practice of that.
I feel like we're jumping around, but there are so many parts of this.
I wasn't sure where this conversation was going to go.
There's so many parts of vision.
There's actually defining the vision, but then there's actually making it distinct.
Then there's making, we're going to kind of do this recap real quick.
Defining the vision, making it distinct.
There's actually then there's pursuing the vision, understanding your why, your purpose behind the vision,
and then understanding what you're willing to give up or what you're willing not to give up in order to pursue that vision.
We kind of just went through the why and how.
And there is, I think the how, there's definitely way more we could talk about there, but we're coming close on time here.
Maybe at some point, we'll touch on vision again in the future.
Yeah, because this is a good episode. I think people are going to really be helped.
If you guys like this episode, right now on Spotify, the question is, who do you want to hear on this?
Who would like to hear as a guest? It might switch that back to say, what do you think of this episode?
Because I feel like that allows people to get more feedback.
And if you don't, if you for some reason don't want to do that, I don't want to do that, it would be awesome if you could share.
If you could share it, just share this episode if you like this episode.
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One star, you probably shouldn't be leaving a review.
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