1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,160 Alright, welcome to the Technically Short Podcast, where Shawn Short and me, Thomas Carney, talk 2 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:13,440 about anything, pretty much anything. 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:21,800 And yeah, today it was brought, well yesterday it was brought to my attention by Andrew Vergato, 4 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:30,200 that in episode one when we were doing an introduction to Shawn and I, I never actually 5 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:31,920 talked about myself. 6 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,840 Not at all. 7 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:39,400 So yeah, he said, yeah, you just jump straight in, straight, you were going to talk about 8 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,720 yourself and you jumped straight into Shawn moving in. 9 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:49,160 And so in this episode we're actually going to do a part one and a part two, where in 10 00:00:49,160 --> 00:00:55,080 this episode Shawn's going to be asking me some questions, interviewing me about whatever 11 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,240 he's going to ask me about, I don't really know. 12 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:01,520 It's a surprise, stay tuned. 13 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:06,480 The next episode we're going to do, I'm going to be doing the same thing for him. 14 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:13,720 And this week, this episode's going to be coming out today on Tuesday and then the next 15 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:18,680 episode's actually going to come out later on Thursday, so that you guys can get both 16 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:23,520 of them in the same week and then we'll go back to once a week after that. 17 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,080 Really good, you're going to love this. 18 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:32,200 Yeah, if you haven't already, go ahead and subscribe on whatever platform you're on, 19 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:38,080 give us a rating on Spotify or Apple podcasts and share it on your social medias. 20 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:39,080 Five stars only. 21 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,600 You got nothing nice to say, nothing, anything at all. 22 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:47,400 But yeah, without further ado, Shawn, what do you got for me? 23 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:57,080 Alright, so question number one, Thomas, introduction of yourself. 24 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:58,080 That question? 25 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:03,600 Yeah, like give yourself a small introduction before I start actually drilling you in this 26 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:04,600 interview. 27 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:05,600 Okay. 28 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:12,600 I'm making sure I'm actually recording. 29 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:13,600 Yeah. 30 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:19,080 Okay, we got a small introduction about myself. 31 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,760 Let's see here. 32 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:30,360 Thomas Carney, I was, I think currently live around here in Plum, Pennsylvania, Plumboro 33 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,360 in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. 34 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:42,080 And a little bit of, going a little bit further back, I grew up in a small town called Ligonier 35 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,160 and about an hour away from where I'm at now. 36 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:51,160 And didn't really grow, I didn't really grow up, where there actually era where I, where 37 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:56,680 my family lived, wouldn't have people around us, at least not people we knew. 38 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:04,480 Everybody that we interacted with was like 15, at least 15, 20 minutes away from us. 39 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:10,480 So and that definitely contributes to, I feel like that definitely contributes to some of 40 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:15,680 my mentalities now, so my introvertedness now. 41 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:22,680 Because I would spend a lot of time by myself, specifically also because I have four sisters. 42 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:27,040 And I remember a time my dad told me, I think I was either, I think I was in college by 43 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:34,240 the time my dad told me this, but my dad got so worried, my mom got so worried that I was 44 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:39,400 by myself all the time, always in my room by myself, that she wanted my dad to take 45 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,600 me to see some specialist. 46 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,960 And my dad just laughed at her. 47 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,600 And he was like, Chrissy, he has four sisters. 48 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,560 Like yeah, he's going to be in his room all the time. 49 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,640 He's not going to leave. 50 00:03:55,640 --> 00:04:04,080 But yeah, I think, but no, I think like, and now going into a little bit who I am now, 51 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:09,520 I am currently a web and mobile app developer for a broadcasting company. 52 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:16,680 I've been there for about five and a half years and a little over five and a half. 53 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:21,840 And I am a person of faith. 54 00:04:21,840 --> 00:04:28,400 I go to, currently go to, Shawn and I, I think you already know this, go to Amplified Church. 55 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,240 And that's, and my faith is definitely the core of my life. 56 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:39,200 It wasn't always, but as I got to grow closer with God and he revealed more of himself to 57 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:49,080 me, I really got to know what it meant, what it means to not just be a Christian, not just 58 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:55,680 be a Christ follower, but like to really strive towards an actual calling on your life, towards 59 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,640 a goal. 60 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:02,320 And it's not something a lot of people, it's not something I really think a lot of people 61 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:06,760 understand and I've still got a lot of work to do on it. 62 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:11,680 But yeah, that's something maybe dive into at some point in a future episode about setting 63 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,640 goals and achieving and how to achieve them. 64 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:19,200 But yeah, I think, I think that's a, I think that's an amazing, amazing intro. 65 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:20,200 All right. 66 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,220 So let's start off with some easy questions. 67 00:05:23,220 --> 00:05:25,720 Question number one, favorite food. 68 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:32,120 I'm going to dive into some very easy questions in the beginning before we go hard. 69 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,720 Favorite food, pineapple, straight up. 70 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,800 Love pineapple, as long as they don't go on pizza. 71 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:40,800 Especially on pizza. 72 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:41,800 No. 73 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:42,800 Yes, pizza, pineapple, pizza. 74 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:43,800 Don't at me. 75 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:44,800 Actually, no, you can. 76 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,800 So you share the podcast button. 77 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,480 Very, very hot take, very hot take. 78 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,120 It's not that hot. 79 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,120 Pineapples don't belong to pizza. 80 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,920 This is my interview. 81 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:56,920 Okay. 82 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,040 That might be fair. 83 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,000 I love my, my, my opinion on my interview. 84 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,000 All right. 85 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:13,360 So question number two, who is your favorite sibling? 86 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:14,360 Favorite sibling. 87 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,080 I don't really, don't really have one. 88 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:20,840 I think I like all, I like, I like all my sisters, love all my sisters. 89 00:06:20,840 --> 00:06:30,880 But no, I, I remember growing up, I had like Nicole was like my buddy until then she became 90 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:36,080 more, more of a woman as she grew up and like we didn't do as much stuff together. 91 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:42,720 But when we were young, when we were younger, she got, she had that kind of top boy vibe. 92 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,440 So it was, so that was fun. 93 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,640 But yeah, I don't really have one. 94 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,000 What a perfect answer. 95 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,760 Shout out to Nicole. 96 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:52,760 You are his favorite. 97 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:53,760 I'm just kidding. 98 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:54,760 He loves them all equally. 99 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:59,560 He's the only other time I was just too. 100 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:06,000 So all right. 101 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:11,600 What is your biggest fear? 102 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:12,600 Biggest fear. 103 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,920 You just, you think it's so easy and I just, okay. 104 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:28,760 Biggest fear I'd say like, I think the biggest fear would be looking back on, looking back 105 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:42,680 on life and not making, not making, not making decisions to take, take, take certain leaps 106 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:50,200 or talk to certain people, not to, like, if I look back at my life and realize like right 107 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,280 now, if I look back at my life, I'd be perfectly content. 108 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:57,720 But if there was something like, and there are things I want to do and I, I, right now 109 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:03,440 I feel like I still have time, but you never really know how much time you have left. 110 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,560 So I feel like if I was like maybe another 10, another even like five years down the 111 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,800 road and I look and I was like, okay, I'm about to die. 112 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:15,080 Hopefully I don't die in five years, but like God only knows. 113 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,760 So like you look back and you're like, oh man, I'm still at the same spot I was five 114 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:19,760 years ago. 115 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,440 That's my biggest fear. 116 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:22,440 That's not to grow. 117 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:23,440 Hmm. 118 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:24,440 That's good. 119 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,960 So like that's a really good, really good answer. 120 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,800 I can't tie in on this. 121 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:29,960 We'll go to the next question. 122 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:36,320 If you had to travel anywhere in the world, where would it be? 123 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:40,760 You should have given me these questions first because I have anywhere in the world, 124 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:45,200 anywhere in the world, Japan, actually, yeah, Japan, top tier. 125 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,760 They got, they got, they got the, they got the pizza vending machine. 126 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,520 So I'm going to try it. 127 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,680 Really top tier, top tier answer. 128 00:08:52,680 --> 00:08:54,640 What motivates you to work hard? 129 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:55,640 Growth. 130 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:56,640 Same thing. 131 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:04,960 Uh, but it makes me to work hard is when the first it's, it's, it's growth. 132 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:11,240 That's the immediate answer, but then the more defined answer behind that is not just 133 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,560 growth, but what comes with growth. 134 00:09:13,560 --> 00:09:15,120 It's like looking at you. 135 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:16,480 I want to make sure. 136 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:22,280 And there's, there's some thing, unhealthy sides of it that I had to kind of learn through. 137 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:28,400 But like, if I say I'm going to do something, like I have full intentions at that time to 138 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:29,400 do it. 139 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,400 And there are times when like you can over promise, uh, which I, I do, which I've made 140 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:43,080 the mistake of in the past, but like I, but what motivates me to work hard is the promise 141 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:44,080 of growth. 142 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:51,040 And like that's something I can even with, uh, certain things I'm doing now that, and 143 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:55,880 I'll say, I don't know who's all going to list through this podcast, but I'll, if they 144 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:56,880 fire me, fire me. 145 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:03,160 My current job, like it's, uh, the only group, there's not much. 146 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,400 There's very, there's very little room for growth in the areas that where that I could 147 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,480 grow, uh, could grow in. 148 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:14,360 I don't like feel called towards growing in that area, uh, in a certain, in a certain 149 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,720 position, which would come with more money and would grow the pay, grow the wallet, but 150 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:24,120 it wouldn't really like grow me in a way that I'm intentionally looking to grow. 151 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:32,280 Um, so like, I guess, I guess the more, the more defined answer would be growth. 152 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:41,600 Growth and motivation to work hard is the, the prospect of growth, the prospect of growth 153 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:47,920 in either per and like personal development, mindfulness, leadership, something that will 154 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:49,880 make me a better person. 155 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:50,880 Yeah. 156 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:52,560 I think that's a great answer. 157 00:10:52,560 --> 00:10:54,280 I loved how you phrase that. 158 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:55,280 All right. 159 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,240 We're going to move to the next question. 160 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:58,240 What would change? 161 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:03,360 What would you change about yourself if you could? 162 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,320 What would I change about myself? 163 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:06,320 Yeah. 164 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:11,280 I don't like that question. 165 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,840 Hey, it's a, it's a good question. 166 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:22,720 I don't really think I think it's, I don't, I think right now who I am now, I don't feel 167 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:23,720 like I would. 168 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:31,480 I feel like there's like, I continuously want to grow, but like, I, I, I'm not going to 169 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:36,880 say if I wish I was, anyone can say I wish I was rich or wish I had this or that, but 170 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,720 I don't really feel like that matters too much. 171 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,400 No, I don't think it's asking about that. 172 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:46,000 For me, I think it's asking more of like, if there's a certain flaw you don't like about 173 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,240 yourself, what would you change? 174 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,640 You like, if you could get rid of that flaw. 175 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:54,720 Like for me, I think one of my flaws is procrastination, like me personally. 176 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,880 So I would like, if I could change that, I would take that out of the question. 177 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:04,200 Other things is doing something stupid, spontaneous, sometimes that's the one of my hugest flaws. 178 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:05,520 That's what I think it's meaning. 179 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:11,960 I don't think it's like out of your personal, like, you know, you, it's more of, at least 180 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:13,920 that's what the question says. 181 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:14,920 Sure. 182 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:19,040 We'll go off that then. 183 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:25,800 I think like one area I'm working, one area I'm working in right now then, if it was possible, 184 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:30,560 it's not, but if it's possible just to flip a switch and be like, okay, I can be a little 185 00:12:30,560 --> 00:12:40,280 bit more, not be an extrovert, but be more extroverted than I am currently. 186 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,720 Like, that's like a little bit. 187 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:47,680 I'm not looking at, I'm not looking at drastically changing that area, but like just to be able 188 00:12:47,680 --> 00:12:53,480 to talk with, just to be more comfortable talking with people because like I'm grown, 189 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:54,480 but we're working on that. 190 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:55,480 So that'll happen anyway. 191 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,760 I think you're doing great at that, honestly. 192 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,200 You're expanding and you're expanding and something that you're building up to be better 193 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:08,000 and better at and that'll happen over time that you'll be successful at that. 194 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,960 We'll move on to the next question. 195 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:11,460 Let's see. 196 00:13:11,460 --> 00:13:14,720 What really makes you angry? 197 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,000 Makes me angry. 198 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,000 Okay. 199 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,480 I don't know what that was. 200 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:29,760 What really makes me angry? 201 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:39,240 I'd say like the first thing that popped in my head and this is more of a, something I've 202 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:44,440 realized more recently and I don't know necessarily where it comes from and it's not like an anger 203 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:50,080 of like being angry at somebody. 204 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:54,680 It's like this internal thing I feel about how other people feel about themselves. 205 00:13:54,680 --> 00:14:02,040 An internal feeling, I guess I should have said, but like when I hear people say like 206 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,800 they feel like a burden or they feel like, oh, this thing that's happening in my life 207 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:13,520 and everything I have to do now, I feel like a burden on everybody around me. 208 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:20,960 For some reason I don't specifically know why, but like when I hear people say that 209 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:27,480 I get mad, not at them, but at the specific, not even at the specific mentality, but like 210 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:34,760 I get so like, it's really hard to explain because I'm not mad at them because it's 211 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:39,880 an understandable mindset and it's valid. 212 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:45,640 But like you look at a person who is perfectly fine, a perfectly good person, but then they 213 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:49,800 feel like they're a burden on other people. 214 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:57,000 To me that's like a, to me that is like... 215 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,000 Insecurity? 216 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,160 No, it's like a reflection of the people, not even a reflection of the people around 217 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:02,160 them. 218 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:13,560 I can't explain like, almost like the idea of what caused that to be, of like what caused 219 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:19,440 that person to feel like a burden and be like, no, I don't see you that way. 220 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:20,440 I don't see you as a burden. 221 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,120 They don't see you as a burden. 222 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:31,200 And like if somebody's listening and that's something you hear, you feel sometimes you 223 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:36,400 feel like a burden on somebody else because of something that's even, especially on something 224 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,920 that's outside of your control. 225 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:44,040 Like I'm not gonna tell you flat out you're not. 226 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:49,040 And then that's all the enemy you're trying to dig into your mind and push you down. 227 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:56,160 I think that's what makes me mad when the enemy is like knocking people out and it's 228 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:57,160 obvious. 229 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:58,160 Right. 230 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,240 Like that's what makes me mad. 231 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:09,040 Like it's like somebody not living up to their potential because living up to their potential 232 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:13,440 or even like having, being able to be a healthy mind even though it's not an easy thing to 233 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:14,440 do. 234 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:19,840 Like it, and then we go on, I'm gonna taint it a little bit, but like it also kind of 235 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:33,460 leads into seeing somebody struggle in an area that, that I, that I know they can get 236 00:16:33,460 --> 00:16:37,040 themselves out of and then explain that to them. 237 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:42,120 And then they, or like, and other people do it and like talk to them and like whether 238 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:48,120 it's mind, body, mind, body, spirit, whatever it is, like you tell them like this, like 239 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:52,080 you can try this or maybe therapy will work for you, you can do this. 240 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,360 And they, and like they shut it down like, nah, that won't work for me. 241 00:16:55,360 --> 00:17:00,320 Like I, I, I'm too broken and that makes me mad too because that, that's just quitting. 242 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:01,320 Right. 243 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:02,320 I agree. 244 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:06,840 And I think, and I think there's also, there's validity, validity in that as well. 245 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,960 There's like other things and other things to overcome. 246 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,800 But like in the moment that's like, it's not talking down on people. 247 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,880 It's just like there's all, there's, there's, there's things like that. 248 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,560 There is a solution. 249 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:27,720 There's things like where if you get stuck in an area mentally, there are, like if you, 250 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:32,200 if you're, if you're struggling in an area mentally, I speak from this through experience, 251 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:36,880 like if it's struggling in an area, like mentally and you can't, and you're, and you feel like 252 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:41,400 you're spiraling every single day, you're always burnout or whatever, like you go to 253 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:46,560 a therapist because you therapist counselor, whatever you want to call it, because God's 254 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:51,040 put a calling on these people's lives to be able to understand the human psyche. 255 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:55,160 They, they do it with who want to understand it, go to school and understand it so that 256 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,160 they can help other people out. 257 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:03,920 Like there's a specific calling for people to be able to help other people's minds and, 258 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:09,040 and how to help them, how to help you understand yourself better. 259 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:13,720 And that's the mistake so many people make that they think they understand themselves 260 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,840 and they don't. 261 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,480 And like, yeah, I think so. 262 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:20,720 I got a little heated there. 263 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,720 No, no, I think it was good. 264 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:23,720 Good. 265 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,400 I mean, we want real emotion, you know, we're not scripting this people. 266 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:27,400 Yeah. 267 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:28,400 So this is really good. 268 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:32,080 Um, now what is your favorite book of the Bible? 269 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:38,080 I feel like we've talked about this before and I've always said, I haven't read that 270 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:39,080 many books in the bottom. 271 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:45,480 To be honest, I've only, I've read fully straight through and I'll just, I'll say the one I've 272 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:51,760 read the most recently and that straight through was Romans. 273 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:55,480 And so right now that, that is a phenomenal book. 274 00:18:55,480 --> 00:19:02,960 Um, getting slowly into Exodus right now, but, um, I'd say like, I'd say Romans. 275 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,320 I've only, I've only read a few, a few books straight through. 276 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:11,800 Uh, yeah, I definitely say Romans as of right now because apparently it's like, which whichever 277 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,680 one I'm reading, whichever one I'm currently reading, it's being my favorite. 278 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,360 So that's fair. 279 00:19:16,360 --> 00:19:17,360 That's fair. 280 00:19:17,360 --> 00:19:18,680 I think that's a good answer. 281 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,280 Who is your favorite biblical hero? 282 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,680 Her biblical hero. 283 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:31,120 Like, see, this kind of goes in the same line. 284 00:19:31,120 --> 00:19:35,320 Like besides like the obvious one, there's Jesus. 285 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:39,440 Uh, that's the, uh, that's the obvious one for like all of us. 286 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,600 So like we'll go second one. 287 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:53,080 Um, I think David, I feel like he messed up, but then he owns, he messed, like he did, 288 00:19:53,080 --> 00:20:00,880 he did, he did a lot of good, David and Goliath, but then he, and then he grows, becomes a 289 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:08,240 king, messes up and then is actually told, uh, but then, and then it's like, I think 290 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,120 we read this today. 291 00:20:10,120 --> 00:20:17,120 Like he messes up and fall, listens to what Satan tells him to do and then owns up to it. 292 00:20:17,120 --> 00:20:21,920 And then, and then past that, I honestly don't know too much, but like, there's just like 293 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:22,920 a lot I hear. 294 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,960 The more I learn about him, the more I'm like, yeah, that's, I don't know, it's real. 295 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:27,960 I don't know. 296 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,520 Honestly, I think that was a really good answer. 297 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,960 Um, let me see. 298 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,880 Another good question. 299 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,440 Who is your hero in today's society? 300 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:42,640 It could be your dad, it could be your mom, it could be your friend, it could be a pastor, 301 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,200 it could be whoever is leading you in the right way. 302 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:50,240 So I'm saying it could be any, any choice of society today. 303 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:51,240 Okay. 304 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:52,240 Yeah. 305 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,480 I've never, I never put the word hero to this. 306 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:59,720 I mean, I'll, I'll, I'll take that as me a mentor, uh, because I've never really, I don't 307 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,440 really can like see anybody and be like, they're my hero. 308 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:09,640 Uh, not the like downplay with people who do have, have, have current heroes. 309 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:15,520 Uh, I just never, I just never put that word into my vocabulary for that kind of stuff. 310 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:25,640 But like, um, I think like there's a few people in my life right now that, one, I need to 311 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,160 know, I need to talk to more just because of who they are and the things that they've 312 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:30,160 accomplished. 313 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:35,440 But also because like they have mentored me in the past and everything that they've done 314 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:42,080 is uh, phenomenal, everything that I've done, like that I've seen is phenomenal. 315 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:48,920 Uh, I'd say, uh, Pastor Ed, Pastor Ed Newell and uh, Patrick Williams. 316 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:53,880 Like those are the two that pop in my mind straight away and they're the two that I want 317 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,440 to get to know, and they're the two people I try to get to know more and need to reach 318 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,480 out to more and talk to more. 319 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,080 Um, Ed, I do talk to every now and then. 320 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:09,080 Pat, um, not as often as I should, but like the stuff that like, and I guess, and that's 321 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:14,640 two different areas of my life that, but that kind of also coincide with, at the core of 322 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:15,640 faith. 323 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:26,040 Um, because uh, Pat was um, Project One Nutrition, how successful that's being and just like 324 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:31,280 listening, hearing the stories whenever him and I meet up every now and then, like and 325 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,920 hearing like all these things that they're doing and acquisitions that they're making 326 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:40,880 and like the biggest deals that he's ever made and like he talks about the mindset behind 327 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:41,880 it. 328 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:46,880 And I think that to me, that is really cool and like that's really, like, and that a lot 329 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,120 of that only comes with experience. 330 00:22:49,120 --> 00:22:53,720 So like a lot of, a lot of like how he's able to accomplish these things. 331 00:22:53,720 --> 00:23:00,680 And like, and then there's Ed, like who's in the area of life of like him and I are 332 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:10,480 very similar, similar uh, people in the mindset of um, of technology, both big nerds, um, 333 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:16,080 and, but him and I can all, big nerds, but and like he's further, you know, have family 334 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:22,280 and kids and I um, just really respect him as like being able to, he'll tell you straight 335 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:23,520 up how it is. 336 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,480 He won't, he won't sugarcoat and like if you're going through something, if I go into something, 337 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:28,480 I go to Ed. 338 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:36,400 I guess he will not sugarcoat and he won't sugarcoat and he'll give me a biblical reason, 339 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:41,840 uh, sometimes biblical, sometimes just like just some very good, not basic, but some very 340 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:47,680 good advice that will help me out when I'm in a bind. 341 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:53,480 So yeah, I think, yeah, I'd say that uh, there are two that are older and then I think that 342 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:59,240 one more, uh, I'd say just cause he's like one of my best friends and we've had a lot 343 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:04,800 of great conversations and we might have him on the podcast at some point soon. 344 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:12,840 I say Andrew Vergato just cause the wisdom that is in him that I've never seen in somebody 345 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,000 who is, what is he, 21. 346 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:21,720 Like when I met him, he's 18 and like he's grown so much since then, but he was already 347 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:28,000 so much more wiser than I ever was, uh, whenever, uh, whenever I first met him. 348 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,000 So like, yeah, I'd say those three. 349 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,400 I think that was really good. 350 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,280 I got time for enough for two more questions. 351 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:36,360 All right. 352 00:24:36,360 --> 00:24:43,040 So question number one, worst leadership advice you've gotten. 353 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,680 Worst leadership, I can tell you the worst advice I've gotten, but the worst leader, 354 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:48,680 worst leadership advice. 355 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:49,680 That is a good question though. 356 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,960 That is a good question though. 357 00:24:51,960 --> 00:25:03,320 Um, worst leadership advice beyond, man, I don't, I don't, I have to go back to be every, 358 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:09,960 all the advice I've gotten recently, like, like at least in per in person, I think all 359 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:14,120 of the advice I've gotten recently either comes from books or from people that I just 360 00:25:14,120 --> 00:25:16,200 talked to, the people I just talked about. 361 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:25,720 Um, so like, and I can't think back as far as whenever the advice is bad, probably bad. 362 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:33,240 Like I used to be, uh, six summers, I was a man, three summers, I was a manager at Ottawa 363 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:39,280 Park in the food stands and technically a leader, but we didn't really understand leadership. 364 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:45,000 So like, I don't really know I answered that question. 365 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:52,040 I think my worst mindset, my personal worst mindset around leadership was that all that 366 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,880 meant is that you got to tell people what to do. 367 00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:01,240 And that was my, just my core understanding of like, yeah, I like being in charge because 368 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:05,200 I can tell people to do stuff and they listen and they have to listen to me. 369 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,200 And that's not even true. 370 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,200 Cause they can, they can just leave. 371 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:14,160 So, so like, uh, so yeah, I don't really have an answer for that question directly. 372 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:15,160 All right. 373 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,880 Well, what is the best leadership advice you've gotten? 374 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:18,880 That's really hard. 375 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,880 Cause there's a lot of good advice. 376 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:29,040 Uh, I didn't know that's where you're going, but like, it's really hard. 377 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:35,200 Like, uh, I would have, and that one, I would have had to prepare for, to be honest. 378 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,920 Yeah, there's no prep time here. 379 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:43,600 Well, there can be, there probably will be one day. 380 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:48,640 That one, let me see, let me, uh, at least something good. 381 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:58,680 Uh, you know what, the first thing that pops into my mind, I think, uh, here's a few, 382 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,920 okay, I'm just thinking about like John Maxwell and I think I've learned from him. 383 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:08,120 Um, if you haven't heard of John Maxwell, definitely look up his, look him up. 384 00:27:08,120 --> 00:27:10,400 He has a John Maxwell leadership, uh, podcast. 385 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,400 They have an executive podcast too. 386 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,960 That's really good to listen to. 387 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,640 Um, he has over a hundred books on leadership. 388 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:26,280 Um, but like I, the one thing, uh, two things that pop in my head though, were the concepts 389 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:35,160 of more and before and that a leader sees a leader, it's a leader's role to see more 390 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,560 and before the people that they're leading. 391 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:44,560 That means like, you see, you see the vision, you see, you see more, you see, you don't 392 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:45,840 just see what's happening now. 393 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:51,240 You see what's going, you see what's potentially going to happen and you see potential problems. 394 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:58,960 You see like, um, problems like interpersonal, you see problems, anything that can like stop 395 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:06,200 the vision and you see, you see more and you see it before anybody else does. 396 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,040 And then you don't necessarily need to be the person to execute to solve the problem, 397 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,800 but you need to know who those people are that can execute to solve the problem. 398 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,800 That's good. 399 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:25,760 And, and then there's, and then there's, um, I forget the exact term, but it was called 400 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:30,520 walk, essentially says walking through the crowd, walking Swiss, not walking Swissly, 401 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:31,520 walking slowly. 402 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,960 That's what there is walking slowly through the crowd. 403 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:39,720 And what that means, like in the way I remember him talking about, like as he is, like he 404 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:44,000 walked in physically when he's down, like at a conference or something, he doesn't stand 405 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,680 on stage the whole time and wait for people to come to him. 406 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:51,240 He goes to the people and, or like whenever he goes and like shakes people's hands, says 407 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,720 hi, I'm John. 408 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:58,840 What I have and like just introduces himself to people and like just slowly like shows 409 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,600 people that like he's not above them. 410 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:01,960 He's with them. 411 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:09,280 And also is also like walking with like, you go amongst your team and you, and you walk 412 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:15,200 amongst your team or even like amongst your church congregation and no matter what, if 413 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:22,120 you hold a position or not, you're slowly walking through the crowd and like just showing 414 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,320 people that you're like, you're here for them. 415 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:26,320 You're not here. 416 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:27,440 You're here for them. 417 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:33,200 You're here to like, you know, the specific leadership position, like you're here not 418 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,360 to lead them, but to serve them. 419 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,640 And the best way to exemplify that and it's probably more to the concept. 420 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:49,560 I'm not, not fully diving into it, but like the, like you're showing people like, yeah, 421 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:50,560 I'm here to serve. 422 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:51,560 I'm here to serve. 423 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:52,560 I'm not above you. 424 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:53,560 I'm with you. 425 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,560 That's good stuff. 426 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:56,840 Yeah. 427 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:03,640 What was the other, you said one more thing. 428 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:08,800 When I said I could give you the ask for the worst advice, leadership advice, can I give 429 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:14,000 you the worst, like this is the worst advice I've gotten like, just on a different topic? 430 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,000 Yeah, sure. 431 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,000 Cause it popped in my head and I want to bring it up. 432 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:29,260 So I had a Tony Robbins results coach and it's for six months and overall it was a really 433 00:30:29,260 --> 00:30:31,200 great experience. 434 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,800 There is just one thing I told you about this already. 435 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:43,600 There is one thing with it that I like, I, I, I know goes against like my core values 436 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:50,400 of being a Christian that he wanted me to do for my business. 437 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,880 And it wasn't necessarily to lie, but it was a twist of the truth. 438 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,400 Yeah, so what? 439 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:58,800 It's like, I can I be what? 440 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:05,000 It's like, you're technically not lying by saying, by lying. 441 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:12,640 See this, this, it's, you're telling, you're telling like, it's like, it's saying like, 442 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:17,280 Hey, you, Hey, you press the like button, you share, you share this post. 443 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,240 You could win a million dollars, but there can be no million dollars lined up. 444 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:25,480 But like you say you could, there's a potential that you don't, like you'll be no potential 445 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:26,480 if you don't. 446 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:33,600 So like, so like, that's not what he was saying, but it was like telling me that I could line 447 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:40,480 up telling people that they could, I could put them on a track to make $10,000 a month 448 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,760 by using the skills I can teach them. 449 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:50,440 Because obviously there's people that do that, that use those skills that are at the top 450 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,960 to whatever skills would they be using. 451 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,520 That's kind of like the mindset you try to give me. 452 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,960 And I was, that made me very uncomfortable. 453 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,960 I'm like, I think it's kind of falls into like, just being honest. 454 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:03,960 Yeah. 455 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:11,120 Because like, it's, and like, it's, it was the way I see it. 456 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:19,400 It could be technically not lying, or you could be a complete, or it could have been 457 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,520 a complete lie, but not, well, it could be only partially a lie because some people use 458 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:24,720 the skills, but some people don't. 459 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,480 And like, it's not just, it's not the only way. 460 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:33,520 And like, I think that advice that would slip on it, just like, you're just being like, 461 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:38,040 whenever you're wanting to guide somebody, you're wanting to lead somebody, you don't 462 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,080 lead them on with clickbait. 463 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,520 You don't lead them on. 464 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,840 You like, yeah, it goes back to it. 465 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:52,600 Like you don't show, like you can show them what you can do. 466 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,800 You can show them by, you can't, don't really tell them what you can do for them, but you 467 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:57,800 show them. 468 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:58,800 Right. 469 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,520 And like, you show people, like you want to lead somebody and you want people to follow 470 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:07,800 you, like you have to show them that you're worth following. 471 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,160 Agreed. 472 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:13,160 And like, you can't just be like, hey, I can do this for you. 473 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:18,440 You don't know, you don't know me from Adam, but I can, like this, like, but I can, but 474 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:19,920 these are the words I'm saying. 475 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,520 Like, it sounds good. 476 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,840 So like, you should follow me. 477 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:29,120 Like I think that's like a lot of people following to that chop with the online influencers. 478 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,680 Like all the instant influencers out there. 479 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:38,680 Like people following to that trap a lot just because people say some fancy words or know 480 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:44,600 how to say things in a certain way to get people to be intrigued or like almost like 481 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,120 guilt trip people into buying their product or doing certain things. 482 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,800 There's a lot of, there's a lot of sneaky stuff out there you have to watch out for. 483 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,560 That's also part of my background. 484 00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:02,760 It's like, it's like, it's like having, wanting to have my own coaching, life coaching business. 485 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:08,840 And so I've done a lot of research in the last few years about what business, about business. 486 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,280 But, but now that's, I don't know, that's pretty much all, that's all I got on that. 487 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,000 That was just something I wanted to bring up because it was, it was definitely on my 488 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,360 heart to bring up. 489 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,920 But I think it's good. 490 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:24,120 And people shouldn't know about the fine print and shouldn't do crooked stuff like that. 491 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,400 Being honest is definitely the best way of being a leader. 492 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:28,400 Yeah. 493 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:29,400 I think, yeah. 494 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,040 You got anything else for me? 495 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,040 Oh, all right. 496 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,040 Let's see. 497 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,040 You don't have to. 498 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,040 This could be the end. 499 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,840 We were already over time. 500 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:44,080 Well I didn't, but I do want to end on a positive note. 501 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,080 So let's. 502 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,080 I didn't say I wasn't positive. 503 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,080 No, no. 504 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:52,360 I meant like a, like our goofy thing at the end where we do something like that. 505 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,200 I didn't mean it like it wasn't positive. 506 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:55,200 We didn't prepare. 507 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,080 We should have had something prepared. 508 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,200 But no, we want to eventually. 509 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,640 We'll figure it out. 510 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:07,280 But like, I think. 511 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:08,640 So there's not a lot of white space. 512 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,480 We probably should have had to hear. 513 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,840 I guess we'll end it here guys. 514 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,920 We'll see you guys next week. 515 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:20,440 Actually, no, we'll see it later this week for part two of this series where I'm going 516 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,440 to be doing the same thing to Shawn and asking him some questions. 517 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:24,440 Part two. 518 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:25,440 It's going to be good. 519 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:30,240 So yeah, stay tuned and eventually we'll get Sinatra music. 520 00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:30,960 Let's go.