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Welcome to Technically Short!

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I didn't know you were gonna yell.

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It's fine.

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Um, yeah.

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You know, I've been wanting to like, intro these with like, I think I told you some funny quip about how this podcast is technically short.

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I think it's a genius idea.

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When I heard of this, Thomas' mind works so wonderfully.

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Like, the way he put Technically Short, because Lyle Lasting was short, needs tech guy if you don't know.

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So like, put-

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Thomas had a record.

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Genius, right?

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The way he broke it down and fused those words together, insane.

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And he thought of this quick.

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You know, I think like, but no, I think the quick, it was, I think the one I said to my dad today was,

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the amount of time that it takes to get through the Squirre-Hull Tunnel during rush hour.

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We compared that time.

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Our podcast is Technically Short.

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That's fair, because I mean rush hour shopping.

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Sometimes you'd be in there for an hour, for sure.

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Sometimes even two hours.

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That's really bad for an accident.

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But uh, yeah.

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I don't know, you're even saying that.

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But the, today we went, Sean and I, we went to like talk about, we kind of touched on it last week,

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about how, when Sean moved in, how he moved in, and the experience that that was.

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But the, from my, mainly with my perspective last week, I don't think Sean ever gave any of his.

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So we'll start, but like, we wanted to kind of expand on how like, we've grown each other during the time that we've lived together.

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And like, not just in like, but like, by living together, by how different we are, how different our minds work,

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and how we've, I hope each other in faith, as brothers in Christ.

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So uh, yeah, Sean, whenever, I'll let you start off, back from the beginning.

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What were your impressions, whenever you, first initially, were telling people you were going to live here?

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Oh man, I was honestly excited.

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The way it happened is, we were just, a whole group of us were together,

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and my apartment, we said, just was get ready to end.

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And um, Tom has made a joke about like, hey, I got an extra room, and I was like, oh, really?

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And what we were doing is, we were having like, a Bible study, so we were able to just like, honestly, just dive in deep into God's word.

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So as we were diving in deep into God's word, and just like hanging out, brother come, come, Rotary,

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and we literally just made a joke, Tom has made a joke like, hey, I got an extra room.

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I wish somebody would live here, these bills are higher, whatever, he made some type of joke.

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And I was like, oh, shoot, well, that's crazy, because my lease is over.

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Are you serious about this?

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So yeah, me and Tom has talked about it.

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We had a little drive after a movie, we talked a little longer, we're like, okay, let's try this out.

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And honestly, through Tom's leadership and his great qualities of wisdom, I've definitely grown much,

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and I think he has definitely grown much too, and it's just like, we iron sharpens iron.

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So his knowledge has literally brought me to see where my areas where I need to work in my life are,

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and I get to see his strength, and I'm trying to use some of his strength, and to build off of that.

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Like, oh, okay, so I know that Thomas is very good at planning, I know Thomas is very good at finances,

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it's like, all right, these are my weakest areas.

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So I was roommate to my old friends.

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Honestly, that's not my weakness.

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This is like spiritual stiff.

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Shonding, great.

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Wisdom, he's got that.

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Finances, no finances.

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Check again.

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Planning, oh, no planning.

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You're a tenuous living off of whatever God just throws at me, that's my life.

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But there is wisdom in planning, and there is wisdom in learning what to do with your finances.

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So as growing with Tom is, I'm learning that like, things that my mind thinks of are not always right.

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So it's like, I had time to position myself into a correct manner.

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Oh, Thomas, you can go now.

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You know, I was like, Shond, I was like barely holding it together when you were saying like,

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you're talking like, yeah, he made this joke about this, and then, you know, we talked about it.

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And you made it sound like it was such a quick thing, but really, and I was like,

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It felt like a month.

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But I was like, I'm not trying, I'm like, it was like,

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you're like, Tom people, we're going to live together before we talked about it.

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And then we talk about it to me, it sounds like it was official deals.

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Our minds are different.

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But like the, I don't know, I did like what you said about like, iron sharpening iron,

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because like our different personalities, like, like, even though like, sure, you're not like,

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people, and people like, I've seen people acknowledge it in you.

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it's not, but sometimes for me, I'm like, man, is that real right now?

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it's like, I have to feel like I always have to force it.

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And I'm not saying that to be like, I don't know, I don't know what I'm trying to say, but like,

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So it's like, you're facing everything in your life, everything is not going good.

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everything is not going good in my life.

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What can I do to make it?

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And you know what, you come to a realization is like, honestly, there's nothing I can do to make it.

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So then you just have to full on rely on God.

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And when you do that, he comes through.

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He really does.

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And I would tell anybody who's listening and the future listeners,

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honestly, just keep the faith.

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There's times in life where everything is not going to go smooth as butter.

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There's times where it's going to be very hard and it's going to be the worst thing ever happens to you.

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Don't lose who God is in the moment because faith is not a feeling.

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It's a choice.

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And I think like all this conversation kind of it reminded me of Remus 10 verses 14 to 15.

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It says how then can they call the one that they have not believed in and that he's currently talking about,

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like how others can, he's talking about how people spread the faith, spread the word of God and spreading it across the nations.

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And he's practicing it with how can the people that do not know have faith in something that they have no clue about.

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So he's like, so he's saying how then can they call on the one they have not believed in and how can they believe in the one of whom they have not believed in.

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And how can they hear without someone preaching to them and how can they anyone preach unless they are sent as it is written.

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How beautiful are the few of those who, okay, you'll be honest.

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I that's not the one I was actually thinking of.

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No worries.

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But I was thinking of fight the good faith.

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No, I was thinking of, I can't find.

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I'm not going to right now dig through it, but I was actually thinking, I saw great verse, but I was like, I was actually thinking of a.

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I know exactly what they do not see and that's what faith is.

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It's faith is hope in the unseen.

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And like, that's kind of what you were talking about a little bit.

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Faith isn't just something like you said, faith isn't something you force.

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Faith isn't something that you should have to force because if you have to force it, then it's not faith.

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And I say like, it's whatever with me, like, whenever I like said, like, I feel like I have to force it to be at the extent you have it sometimes.

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And I think I'm going to speak for other people too, like, it can feel discouraging sometimes, but then just by being around it all the time, being around it as much as I am around you.

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And then being at church, being surrounded by other people, I amplify, like, it boasters my face and builds it up.

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So I can have that faith that part of me felt like I couldn't have before.

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And so like, that's like, for me, that's what I'm getting a lot from you is like, being able to see like, like, this is what like, really, really strong phases like and I think there's always room for improvement for everybody.

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There's always room for growth. There's always room. There's never a ceiling. The only ceiling that there, we put the ceiling on ourselves.

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Right. So like, the only ceiling, the only ceiling that is there is one that we put on ourselves. So like, if you, if you like, what if you like, see other people that somebody that has faith, or you and either you want to know what faith is, or you don't like, or you want to grow your faith, like the best way to do that is being around those people who have the faith that you want to have.

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Oh, that's that's deep. And like, I honestly lucked out because I, even though we are extremely different, and I feel like so I feel like some and sometimes well, not sometimes we disagree a lot.

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I think that's really, I think it's good. Because if you're constantly around people that you always agree with, you're never going to grow. I agree. And that's like, not so much of the world. That's like, and sometimes they like, those places are nice.

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That's like chat rooms, like subreddits, like they're all based around, like some subreddits are all based around a particular opinion, which can get extremely toxic, extremely fast. And nobody realizes it because everybody's agreeing with everyone else that they see in their bubble.

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And that's how bullying happens a lot of times. Yeah, people just agreeing when they know they normally wouldn't have agreed. But they just have nobody wants to be bold. And that's what's wrong with this generation.

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There's a lot of people who just follow on. Nowadays, people don't even believe in a lot of things the same. They just will or scared to say what they believe in. So they just follow what other people believe in, which is dangerous.

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Because if you're not believing the same thing somebody else is believing, and you're not bold enough to tell that person, and you're just following somebody, and you're following into destruction. But see, and you won't even be bold enough to tell people.

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And that's what society is doing lately. Like, it's sad. Because like, when the kids getting bullied, nine out of 10 times, nobody's agreeing with the bully.

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They're just too scared to be bold enough to say, hey, what you're doing is wrong. It's not funny. Instead, they laugh nervously. Some of them are laughing at enjoyment or for entertainment. But they're just feeding until this guy's position in life, knowing that his position is wrong.

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That's the thing, we don't push it back against the enemy enough. Specifically for those that aren't Christians or people of faith, when I say the enemy, I'm not talking like saying that bully is specifically the enemy.

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I'm saying like the devil. The devil that is in the evil things, the evil ways. And we as people, as human beings, as imperfect beings, we do not do enough to us a lot of the time to push back against these things.

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And that's why I think, like, when it was bullying, I think, just as an example, people don't, like, they shoot there. People don't talk about how to fight back against bullies.

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People in that setting, in that general setting, people don't talk to the kids in high school. How do you fight against a bully? They teach them how to overcome the trauma after they're bullied.

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Yeah. And they don't talk about how to prevent it in the first place. And then the trauma control, it wouldn't be needed.

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But it is because the priorities are messed up. But now that's a good conversation.

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Honestly, I love it. Because, I mean, people were more bold in life. I think a lot of damage the world happens would be lessened, for sure.

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So people would be bullied less because if everybody was honest when some bully said something mean to you, like, hey, that's mean. Don't say that again.

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Most people would. Because, I mean, it's not like we live in, like, Gotham City or some place where everybody's a bad person.

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Like, majority of people try to do good morals. Like, you know what I mean? Like, they try to do like that.

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Well, I think majority of people, like, majority of people believe that they're doing good.

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I don't know if I would say not to be a cynic or to be a, like, but like, I think everybody, everything that everybody does are doing because they believe that it's good.

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Right. And they believe it. And for one way or another.

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The bad guys always think that they're the hero. I've heard that before.

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Like, the, I think, like, I also think everybody at their core understands good and evil.

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Because it's written in, like, in the Bible, it's written on our soul hearts.

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Yeah, written on our hearts.

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And written on our hearts what good is, what bad is, what sin is.

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And like, but like, like, we're born with that.

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I'm just in the understanding.

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And, but then the word comes into play and the word comes into the world comes into play and it distorts it.

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Distorts the understanding of what good and evil is.

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Because like, we can, like, there can be, you can sit people in a room with all these different opinions and ask them a quest and you ask them a question about something extremely controversial.

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Well, I like that extremely controversial. Something, I think, something extremely basic.

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Like, is it like, I don't know, I have to learn what I'm doing with this, but we'll run with it.

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The, like, for the kid being bullied example.

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Everybody in that room would say, yeah, that's wrong.

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That kid shouldn't be bullied. But there might be that one, you would think, like, you think, but there also might be that one person.

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And be like, yeah, that kid deserved it.

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Yeah, you don't know.

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There's some kid who would probably say that.

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But like, I would say the majority, I think you're right, so roundabout way to say it, but yeah, I would say the roundabout way, majority of people in their core know the right, know the difference between good and bad.

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And act on it in a way that most of the time is influenced by their opinion, so.

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Oh, I agree.

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Instead of influenced by facts, influenced by God, it's influenced by opinion.

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So like, that's kind of where that's where everything starts to deviate when we started including our own imperfections into what the facts really are.

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Like, I honestly think that when people think their opinion outweighs the good or bad is where the bad starts.

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You know, like honestly, because we have what you said earlier about putting your imperfections into the perfection is genius.

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Like that is like, honestly, what happens?

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Like, honestly, people who think that my opinion outweighs God's law is what changes people to make it corrupt.

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And I honestly agree 100%.

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Like, and the walls written on our hearts so good and evil for people who don't know God.

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That's what we're talking about.

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And we should even say like, on here right now, like, we're imperfect.

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You're right.

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So like, some of the things we say might, are going to be imperfectly said easily.

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So like, I'm never speaking perfect.

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So like, it's going to...

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You just completely contradicting yourself.

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I understand what you meant.

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I speak it perfectly, but I'm always right.

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I don't think that's how that works.

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But, but the, but no, we got way off topic, but I think it was a really good topic to go off of.

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Absolutely.

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But no, the, I don't know, I think like, going into like, going to try to reel back to like, us living together.

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Yeah.

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And like, like, I don't know, people at people, I want to ask you this.

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Oh, this is my, this will be fun.

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Let's go.

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I'm going to ask you first and then you can then you ask me because I've been talking a lot.

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The, no worries, but the, when people do people ask you, like even currently, like, how's Thomas has a roommate?

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Yes.

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I mean, I always got that.

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And I always tell them that Thomas is a dope roommate.

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Simple as that.

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I didn't say that to get like a pat on the back or anything.

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I was just curious.

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Yeah, I get that a lot.

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They asked me like, whoa, you guys live together.

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How's Thomas a roommate?

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Pastor Ed, everybody's asked me that before.

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How's Thomas is a roommate?

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It's like, Thomas is a roommate is great.

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Thomas is a better roommate than me.

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No, people ask me like, like how Sean has a roommate, especially like, my dad even asked me to everything that popped up in my head.

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My dad asked me today and he's not the first time he's asked me that.

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And it could, but not for any reason.

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I think he just forgets my answer.

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But, but I always say like, yeah, like, yeah, he's a great roommate.

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Like, I did think whenever you moved in that you were some sort of minimalist.

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Whenever I called you, when I called you on the phone, you're like, yeah, everything I own fit in my car.

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I'm like, wait, that's what I was like, oh, it must be some sort of minimalist or something.

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I'm fine with whatever.

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But like, no, you threw your bed away.

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Yeah, I do like to be somewhat of a minimalist.

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So like, so if I get like six pairs of shoes, I'll throw away six to the homeless, not actually like throw away people who are listening.

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But yeah, I feel like you have like 10 pairs of shoes.

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I do.

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I do have 10 pairs of shoes.

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But I did give like 10 away.

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So that's fair.

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So you got 20 pairs of shoes?

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Yes.

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I'm trying to simplify.

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Yeah, I gave a lot of them away.

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Some of them were kind of old.

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Some were new, but just got some more Yeezy's and Jordan's.

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Didn't pay from God gave them to me courtesy shoutouts.

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The people God sends always awesome.

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Oh, man.

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I don't know.

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Yeah.

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Do you have any questions?

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Yeah.

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Um, what is your top 10 Bible heroes?

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Top 10.

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We'll get to five.

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Make it quick.

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Five is good.

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I read from Paul.

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That's so good.

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Paul is out of anybody besides Paul, David, Moses, the big guys, the big ones.

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Those are the big ones I know because that's one pretty much everybody knows.

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But like, because there's still plenty of books in the Bible I have not read at all yet.

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I hear people talking like, what's your favorite book in the Bible?

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Like the one I'm reading right now.

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I mean, you're at least reading.

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So there's no bad thing to read the Bible.

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I read purposely slow because I don't want to try to be read the Bible.

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I want to try to get as much out of it as I can.

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Soon I'm going to be doing Philippians.

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Philippians is good.

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I got it right here.

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Nice.

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I'm going to get into his heart.

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Philippians 413.

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How sweet.

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You know, I actually honestly love the book of Philippians.

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It got me through the time of like, I think it as in God, the word of God, but whatever.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I know what you're going to say.

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Like, because I have a lot of that dealing with anxiety and even, not a lot, but even

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I had like the couple of verses of like, do not, don't be anxious.

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Give your, give these, if it's not, if it's, if your thoughts aren't of, like, isn't of.

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Oh God, pretty much taking on their negativity.

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It's like, yeah, it's like if it's not of love, if it's not of, what's another one?

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I can't think of, I feel like I'm on the spot, but I'm not.

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I know, you're pretty much on it.

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I know exactly what you're talking about.

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Yeah, if it, and other people probably can rattle it off, but it's okay.

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The, I used to, I used to have knew that by heart.

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I need to memorize it again.

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It's like taking every thought of captivity that is pretty much not of God in the simpler version.

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Yeah, I think, yeah, it's like whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever, whatever is like praiseworthy, it's not in this order.

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But it's like, it pretty much saying like whatever, if your thoughts are not of this, or your thoughts are not like this, they're not of God.

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Therefore, they're not from God.

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Therefore, you can give them to God and flip them around so they can be of God.

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And that sounded very confusing as I came out of my mouth, but I think some people will understand it.

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But like, but yeah, I think like that's a good verse.

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But like, so I think we have about five minutes left in this, in the episode.

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I think like, we definitely jumped around a lot and that's probably going to be a lot of these episodes in the least early on.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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But like, I honestly really liked this conversation.

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I really liked this.

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I hope you guys liked it too.

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I kind of want to, I want to start ending off the episodes with some fun, happy conversation.

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Like, Sean and I, maybe a debate.

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I love it.

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This one's for Pastor N.

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So Sean, we already had a conversation about this a couple of times and it lasted at least 30 minutes.

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So we only have the lesson, the lesson five.

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Fair.

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So don't speak all your mind.

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Okay.

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But it's an air mattress comparable to a regular, let's say, this thing is just a regular box spring.

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Yeah, I would say it's comparable and I would say it's not durable.

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So an air mattress to me is only good enough.

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So like, let's, I'm going to put this out here for the people first.

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So understand the context behind this.

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I'm, as I understand, like, your basis is like, yes, they are comparable because you sleep on both of them.

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Right.

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My saying is that they're not comparable at all because even though you sleep on both of them, they are made for different purposes of like, one is made for like, sleeping on for like a night or maybe a week, a week when you go camping.

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Well, first is the box spring is made for like years and so like, one is less durable, but because it's as durable as it needs to be for the purpose it was made for.

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See, if it's less durable, then it's not, it's not as good.

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So we're saying the air mattress, even if it was like its purpose is for people to sleep on, right?

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So if you can only sleep on it once a week or once every year or every time your friends and sleep can only come over and you have a sleepover and you bring out your air mattress and like three times.

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And then there's holes in it and it's done.

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You got to get a new air mattress or let's just say I'll give it two years.

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It lasts two years, you only take it out when you get it.

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See, that's the thing though.

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It's not good.

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Like the thing that you're not supposed to sleep on an air mattress for two years.

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That's like, that's not, that defeats the whole, that's not.

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Right.

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The whole purpose is so you can sleep on it.

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It's literally a temporary mattress.

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If it's temporary, then it's not a good mattress and we're comparing mattresses, then it's not a dorm.

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But comparing mattresses, but also comparing separate products.

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The products are made for separate purposes.

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One is meant for long-term sleep, one is meant for short-term sleep.

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Yeah.

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And like you wouldn't, but you can't take a regular mattress camping.

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I mean you could.

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It would suck the pack.

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If you want to pack, compact, you want to take it like, you want to pack.

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They got foam mattresses, which would be better than air mattresses.

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You cannot easily pack up a like memory foam mattress.

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Yeah, they come to the box.

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They're heavy.

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They literally, like, go to the box.

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Those are heavy.

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How do you try, how do you try them?

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Yeah, I used to have one on my bed.

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Like a full, like a full queen, full king, full wallet.

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They come inside this little box.

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And then soon the air hits it, they get big.

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And then you can put them back.

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So wait if you just fold it into the back into the box and take it back.

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It wouldn't be that bad.

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It would be way better.

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No.

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Ideal than air mattresses.

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Air mattresses.

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Never take, never take your memory foam mattress camping.

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It would be great.

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That would be a thought.

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It would, it would, it would be good for when you're there, but suck it, bring there and back.

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It would be wonderful.

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Just make sure you have a.

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It would be such a bad idea.

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SUV or.

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Just make sure you have.

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Truck or heck, even if you have your back seat of your car cleaned out, it should fit.

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It should be fun.

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That would be bad.

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I can just imagine.

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It would be that bad.

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No, it would be bad.

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I've done a queen size mattress.

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So good.

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It was like.

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It would be with the air in the window.

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Yeah.

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I think it would be fun.

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Easily just put the trunk down.

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I had it in my back seat.

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I had an Optima, I have an Optima car.

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So 2014 Optima car.

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And honestly, it fit there.

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So I think you guys are good.

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What you need to do is get ready.

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I'm going to get ready.

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I'm going to get ready.

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I'm going to get ready.

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I'm going to get ready.

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I'm going to get ready.

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I'm going to get ready.

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I'm going to get ready.

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I think you guys are good.

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What you need to do is get real mattresses.

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Don't get air mattresses.

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Air mattresses are not durable.

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Don't get air mattresses for a regular use.

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But if you're taking it camping, if you're taking it camping, you just have it for like

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a friend's dinner or one night.

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That's what it's for.

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Yeah.

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But then it's not durable.

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If it's only.

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If it's only.

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If it's only.

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If it's survived.

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When friends are coming over.

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And when you're at camping.

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It's not durable.

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You got 30 seconds.

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Okay.

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Well, we only have 30 seconds left.

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So I'm going to use this and say one second.

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I'm getting my phone unlocked so I can stop it when I need to.

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Oh, I don't know how that happened.

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But anyway, over 30 minutes already.

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Whatever.

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But the call.

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But like, would you rather have a full mattress that you have to like, like something you

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use extremely temporarily, take up a lot of stuff.

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And then thing now takes up a lot of space versus something that's like a size of a double

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bag.

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And you're not going to have to be comfortable with it.

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Yeah, absolutely would.

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Um, because if it's more comfortable, you're going to enjoy it better.

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See, this is where we differ.

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And this is why Sean can't be a minimalist.

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That's fair.

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I got to be more comfortable.

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Like, I mean that.

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Airwrages are like extremely comfortable.

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Depend.

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They're okay.

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Depending.

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You have to get a good one.

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But you might wake up and be on the floor when it was like six feet high.

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When you started.

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Yeah.

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If you, if you have one that is damaged, I have one that is damaged.

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Like the most like the most.

448
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Like the most.

449
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,000
Like the most.

450
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,000
Like the most.

451
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,000
Like the most.

452
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,000
Like the most.

453
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,000
Like the most.

454
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Like the most.

455
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I have one that is damaged.

456
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,000
Like the most like the most broken or something that does happen, but oh, I like this and

457
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,000
like, it's really setting.

458
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,000
I almost thought it was our setting up.

459
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,000
I was like, what?

460
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,000
We're looking at our, like on our TV.

461
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,000
It kind of just.

462
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,000
Switch videos.

463
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,000
But we have a timer set anyway.

464
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,000
Doesn't matter.

465
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But yeah, we know.

466
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So yeah.

467
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,000
I'm going to be honest.

468
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,000
I feel like this is a good end for the episode.

469
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,000
Even though like, yeah, I don't think we're ever going to come to an actual conclusion

470
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:30,680
this conversation. No, not at all. So I hope you guys enjoyed this episode and the conversation.

471
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:38,440
If you stayed for the whole 31 and a half minutes, thank you. That's pretty cool. We love you guys.

472
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,560
But yeah, I honestly hope you got something really good out of this. We uh buy Thomas a coffee.

473
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:53,720
Buy us those. Well buy me a coffee, buy him a sugar drink. But okay. We'll talk to you later.