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Hi, I'm Quinn Carnegie. Welcome to Manifestation, Motivation and Passion. If you're looking

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to transform by delving into brain science, sacred inner wisdom and want to heal and feel

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your world, then tune in and let's evolve together.

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Hi, I'm Quinn and today we have Ramona Leone Mooney who was raised in Michigan by family

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practicing law and discussing civil liberties by the TV. Ramona studied ecosystems earning

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her a Bachelor of Science degree at Michigan State University at the College of Human Ecology.

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Since that time she's studied spiritualism, health, certified in therapeutic healing while

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living in California and Hawaii. She has a pacifying effect on people and an accomplished

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entrepreneur with 30 years running her creative workroom in Ann Arbor, Michigan. She has advanced

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certifications in brain health, neuro-encoding and specialities. Thank you Ramona for joining

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us today. Can you tell me how you started with your creative business?

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I knew fabrics like the back of my hand. Then I went to Southern California and while I

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was getting an art degree I worked in a dressmaking shop and the woman there who was highly accomplished

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at dressmaking took me under her wing, had me come to her apartment twice a week for

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a year and a half and she emptied her head into mine. She was my mentor for dressmaking.

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When I came back home to Michigan where I was born and all my Italian relatives are

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here I opened my own dressmaking business. It grew because one of my clothing alterations

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customers, my best one, meaning that she came back often with clothes for me to alter, she

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asked me to make a slip cover and at that time my son was five years old and I didn't

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have enough time for him because I had so many customers. But the slip cover took a

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week to make and it was a week's worth of money so there was no solution. So I started

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exclusively making slip covers, got so many orders that I needed the help of independent

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contractors to help me. I found the women through the 4-H organization here in the states

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where all the women in 4-H know how to sew. They've probably extended it to the boys as

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well now. And we were booked three months in advance for making slip covers for ten

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years in a row.

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Wow, that's incredible.

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I had a company van. It was amazing. It was like my own job security that I created. Because

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it kept going and it kept going and we were always booked three months in advance and

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it kept going year after year after year for ten years. And I had a company van with my

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logos on it and my phone number and people would stop me in parking lots and they'd ask

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if I could do this or that for them. And I had cable TV advertising on television where

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a magic wand went over your old worn out sofa and a beautiful slip cover painted on as the

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magic wand went over your sofa. It was a really cool commercial.

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Fantastic. It sounds like a cool commercial.

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Yeah. After 35 years, my massage therapist told me I was going to be permanently bent

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over like an old lady walking through the grocery store.

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I'm so sorry to hear that. That sounds terrible.

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And my hands were starting to hurt and the two fingers on my right hand were starting

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to bend permanently and they ached. So I tried to sell the business and I had a buyer lined

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up and she backed out at the last minute and I was just done. I just had to stop. And I

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just told myself, you know, old dogs can learn new tricks. I was 64 at the time.

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And I stopped sewing altogether. In fact, I have a pile of stuff in the next room that

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I need to sew and it's been sitting there for almost a year.

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I can hear the sadness in your voice when you talk about it. Obviously it was something

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that you really enjoyed doing. Oh, it was my heart and soul and it fed my

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creativity and everything. And it was more than that because customers asked me, do you

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have slip covers on a shelf that I can pick from? And I said, no, it's in your imagination.

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It's in your mind. And they looked at me totally perplexed. So I showed them pictures of what

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other people have asked me to do. I said, you can have a skirt like that or you can

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have a top like this or you can have arms like that on your sofa. And then they closed

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the book and they'd say, I know what I want. And then I'd draw it out. I had two forms.

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I had a blank form that I drew a picture of what they described and then another form

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for all of the charges that to make that happen. And then I asked for half of the labor upfront

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and all of the money for the materials upfront in one check. And people would write an 800

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to $3,000 check to me for that over and over again for 10 years plus more years.

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It's definitely a good way to do business. Yeah. And I closed it because it was taking

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its toll on my body. And I just said, universe, you support me. Okay. And this is what happened.

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Are you sitting down? Yes, I am. Okay. I just went from day to day. I thought, hey, maybe

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I'll paint watercolors by the seaside because when I was in high school and college, I do

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watercolors and people would buy them right away. $50, $100, right off my easel. So I

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go home. I went, well, maybe I'll do that. Go to Italy maybe instead of by the canoles

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and drink wine and do watercolors. That sounds like the life. That's what I thought I might

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do. Okay. But guess what happened? Guess what happened? I had a dream that came to me at

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night and then it started happening every night. And then the same exact dream every

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night, which was bothersome enough, you know, it's like pestering me. I started also thinking

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of it during the day. And the dream had four words. It had imagination, intuition, awareness

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and creativity. There's no path. The second, just those four words, no explanation, but

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just think about it. What I had been involved in. And I realized that, you know, wouldn't

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when fabric would be backordered and I'd have to rearrange my schedule when I guaranteed

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that a person's job would get done that week and, and the jobs in front of them I couldn't

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do because the fabric is backordered and I didn't have it to work on. You know, I had

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to, I had to go, okay, walk out into my, from my office into my workroom, which was all

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in one building. And I'd go, okay, well, what should I do today to make everything turn

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out okay? And it would, sometimes it would mean take the afternoon off. Sometimes it

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would say, do this or go to a networking meeting or, you know, something. There was always

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something, a message. And I realized I was using my intuition in business.

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And that's a beautiful thing.

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Yes. Yes. So here I, I was a kid and I can tell you lots of experiences as a child with

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intuition and I've used it through that 35 years. Plus I was asking people to use their

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imagination and when they saw their finished slip cover exactly the way they described

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it to me in my office months earlier, they were blown away. I mean, the joy was just

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like, they felt like they created it. And I, in fact, I told them, I said, don't, don't

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worry about me. Just, you know, I'm an elf and I, you just put in your order to Santa

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and man, that's what you're going to get.

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Oh, that's beautiful.

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And it worked all the time. I had one man who came with his wife and I always encouraged

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the husbands to come because, you know, if they saw that the slip cover looked better

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with a skirt on it and they wanted a skirt, they'd pay the extra $80 for it real quick

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where the wife would go, oh, I don't know if I should spend that extra $80. Well, if

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the husband was there, it happened, you know?

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Yes.

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So this one husband once said, what if I don't like it when it's done? And I thought to myself,

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that would be impossible. That's what I thought to myself. That would be impossible because

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my, my scale of excellence is higher than anything you can think of. But anyway, I just

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turned right to him and I said, I'll give you 100% of your money back if you don't like

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it. And he said, okay. And then when it was done, he said, I don't want the money. I want

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the slip cover. Thank you.

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Oh, that's so lovely.

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Because that dream was pestering me so much that I, I said, okay, you know, I'll start

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working on it. So fast forward, I have a book that was published the first day of this year,

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010123. It's called Tapping into the Power of Your Intuition, Guidance to Reach Beyond

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Limits for Exceptional Results. Now I got to tell you, Quinn, your intuition is different

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than my intuition is different from the next person's intuition.

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Oh, absolutely.

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We each have our own. Okay. And when I'm doing my spiritual research along my own spiritual

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path, I'm learning that it really is connected to people's sole purpose, the intuition. Now

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I am a very, very practical girl. You know, if it's not something I can use in my everyday

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life, I just don't need it. Okay. And I want things to resonate with each person or throw

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it away. You know, if it doesn't resonate with you, you know.

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Can I stop you there for a second? What led you to neuroencoding?

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Neuroencoding. I am a John Maxwell team member. And I learned about leadership through the

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John Maxwell team. And then Paul Martinelli sponsored Dr. Daniel Amon to teach brain health

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and Dr. Joseph McClendon III to teach neuroencoding, one $3,000 seminar that I took and studied

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for a year and a half and then stuck with them. And so I have the support of Dr. Daniel

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Amon, who's got clinics across the U S where he's taking brain scans of people and has

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consolidated all the information and recommends certain diets and exercise and social interaction

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and spirituality practice is in there too for keeping your brain until you're a hundred

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years old or older.

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That definitely sounds like a good plan. So can you tell me, can you tell me what actually

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is it? Like once you've got this brain scan, what do you do with it?

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Okay. That's the brain scan and the research that I can draw on. And what it is is in 20

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to 30 minutes, I can take you for instance, as with your habitual thought that you're

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stuck on something you're stuck on. Okay.

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So say someone had a money block. Is that what you mean? Or do you mean something like

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trauma or that sort of thing? Or it doesn't matter?

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It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It's our brain is in our thoughts create our reality.

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So for instance, my son was in, was broadsided and the EMTs, you know, use the big claw to

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get the door off of him and then put him in one of those things where they keep the neck

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really straight. So hoping that he doesn't get paralyzed. Okay. So they sent him home

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at the end. He was okay. Yeah. But he was, he was traumatized. So I, I, because I, I've

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done this with my own hands too, but I used both his mind and my hands. So I put my hands

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and I asked for guidance from above to help me with this. And right where it hurt the

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back, the worst in his neck. And I said, now Doug, I want you to do this explicitly. What

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I say his name is Douglas. So I said, Doug, you need to do this exactly what I say. Okay.

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Trust me dear. And he goes, I trust you mom. And then I go, okay. So I said, imagine yourself

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driving through that intersection and nothing happened. You drive through that intersection

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every day on your way to work. I want you to remember that you drove through it and

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nothing happened. Don't ever think the other one again. And I lifted my fingers off his

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neck. I felt an energy and then I like shook it out of me. And then he told me it went

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away and it never came back. Wow. That's pretty incredible. So the, the thing is, is now I've

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learned to do this over the phone or on a video call with anyone with neuron coding.

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So I actually ask questions, listen to your answers, ask you questions. And then there's

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a certain technique called a stigmata. Can you explain what that is? A stigmata is a

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shock to your thinking. Like for instance, imagine you're standing in a room with the

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lights on and all of a sudden the lights go out and then they go back on again. Okay.

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That will reset your brain. Now there's a lot of other techniques. This kind of reminds

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me, yeah, of, of, yeah. So there's something else and I can't think what it was called

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or maybe if it is the same thing, I'm not sure where, um, so you say sort of what the

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problem is or, and then like someone tells a joke or to, to shift your perspective on

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it. Is that right? And then right back again. Yeah. And then right back on the problem again.

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Yes. Um, but instead of it being a problem, now we're focused on the solutions and then,

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and then the person gets to pick what solution they want to work on right now. And then there's

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a follow-up, a call about a, a number of days or a week later, however the person's schedule

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is, but not more than a week. And I think that's really important that you've got that

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follow-up too. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. You don't know. I mean, you know, I will never

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leave anybody in the lurch ever. I'm just not like that. So then how do the neurons

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encode the information? Like what are the key principles involved in the process? What

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was your question again? Oh, sorry. In a crisis? Well, yeah, let's, let's say like someone's

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been through some sort of trauma. How do neurons encode the information? Um, well, because

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I know, um, now after I graduated from Michigan state, I spent six years in California in

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two major places, Southern California around Laguna beach and Newport beach. And on about

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another three years up in Carmel and Monterey, I, I studied anatomy there and also all the

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healing arts. So to answer your question, if someone's been through a big trauma, they're

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storing the trauma in their body, right? Of course. They're feeling it. Of course they're

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feeling it. So I find out where in their body they're storing it. And then a person has

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healing power in their own hands. And I can make them believe they do. Okay. Yes. I can

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do something like touch the screen right now and I'm going to transfer the healing powers

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to your hands. They already have it. Yes. But I can trick them that way. Okay. And then,

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um, and then I'll say, now put this on here and then close your eyes. And this is after

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I taught them how to empty their head, I have something called an empty head, uh, exercise

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and I have it in a one page. So I can share that, uh, for, for your, um, to give away.

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That would be awesome. Yeah. It sounds like something we all need. Yeah. So what it does

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is it empties your entire head of every thought, including the thought of doing what you're

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doing with the exercise. Okay. So, so if I, if someone's been through a trauma, I would

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say let's, let's review the empty heads exercise. And then I would empower their hands. And

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then I'd say, now put your hands where you feel the tightest energy or the most pain.

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And I'd have them put their fingers on their own body. And then I'd say, now go through

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the empty head exercise and listen to me. And I'd tell them how they're being healed.

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So then with sort of the different sensory modalities like vision and hearing, do they

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involve different neuro, um, sorry, neural encoding mechanisms? Not really. It all gets

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down to your thoughts, your repetitive thoughts. Okay. So for someone then, for instance, I'm

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so, I'm so practiced at this that when someone can walk right up to me and belittle the hell

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out of me, but I know who I am. They're the ones that is hurting or inquiring or inquiring

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about me. It has no reflection on me. And a lot of people don't get that. Yeah. They

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don't know that. I think that's so important as well. Often when people are, you know,

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making those negative comments, it's, um, you know, sometimes can be a reflection of

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their own behaviors and traits. Yes. But when it's happening, do they, does, uh, the, the

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so-called victim, uh, have skills to deal with it? Not always. No. Because otherwise

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it keeps, it's audible. It keeps, you know, repeating in your head because you heard it.

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And you go, Oh gosh, you know, my mom said that to me once or, you know, something that

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was that teacher, she said that, you know, or something. Okay. So that's what I interrupt

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that, that association so that you become a person becomes empowered to manage their

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own thoughts. And then as far as the, um, neural encoding, are there any sort of experimental

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techniques that have been used, um, such as single unit recording or FMRI? Um, it's really

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more, it really can be, you really don't need any other gadgets or apps or anything to do

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it because it's something that then you can do over the phone and you're not limited by

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your location. Correct. Correct. And you don't, you can do it in a crowded room. You can do

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it while, uh, uh, a tragic thing is happening and you can do it. So say, say something like,

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say, 9 11 where you've had really bad, you know, trauma from, you know, an incident that's

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occurred. If you're still, you know, if it's sort of all around you and it's on the news,

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how does neural encoding help with, if, with overcoming those emotions? Well, one session

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won't, but through neural encoding, maybe two or three sessions, a little bit of repetition.

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Um, you can, a person will start to realize that they have a domain inside. They have

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agency of their own, regardless of what they're hearing in the news or what they're experiencing

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firsthand by being in it in the, in the true traumatic thing. They know that, uh, you know,

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even if it's affecting them and all of a sudden, you know, because of the blast, their leg

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isn't working. They still know that, you know, they can think and they can, um, prepare themselves

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for being rescued or being rescued or for dying there. They can prepare themselves because

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they have control over their thoughts. That's all that matters. And do you know, now you

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know this, that there isn't anything that exists in reality that wasn't thought of first.

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Oh, absolutely. So, so do you ever find that you get some people and you know, exactly

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what you said, it does come down to choice. So do you ever get some people come in that

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are so resistant to the change and walk out and not, not at that place already to do it?

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Because I'm reading this book, um, by Edith Edgar, um, the choice. Now that talks all

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about the choice and she's been through these, you know, horrific circumstances, but she

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makes that choice. And that is the whole, um, the whole idea of the book.

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Right. And in my book, tapping into the power of your intuition, I point out that the ability

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to choice is the only power that we have. So true. So true. And that we can, we can

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make another choice anytime. And people learn from me that there are as many choices as

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there are stars in the sky at night. There's an infinite number of choices you can do.

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Okay. So you just try another one that's the most or the least harmful to your life.

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And then you try another one and then you try another one. There's plan A, B, C, D,

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E, F and G. You know, so you just like, how many sessions of neuro-encoding would you

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recommend? And is it something that for someone that I've never even heard of it before? So

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is it something that I recommend? I recommend three. So there's another question. So you've

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asked me two questions already. This is the third one. Do you remember the other two?

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Yeah. Yes. So first, first, first you can ask me, you know, can you tell me how you

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got to where you are now with your business? And then the second question can be what is

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neuro-encoding? Yes. Okay. And then the third question is what did you just ask me? What

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do I recommend in a number of sessions? Okay. I recommend three. Three is a magic number.

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So the Trinity, there's three of all kinds of stuff. And it helps in this case because

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you're experiencing it firsthand in the first session and you have homework. Just stay on

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that path. Okay. I was going to say what sort of homework would you suggest? The new thought

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path, the replacement thought path. Okay. So the second one is to make sure you're doing

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that and that you understand and troubleshoot what's stopping it from working if there is

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anything because it could be another thought that is bigger and deeper for the person.

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So when you say three sessions. And then the third one is kind of a, you know, all wrap

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up and make sure you're okay and that kind of thing. Or go deeper even. And that was

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going to be my question. So it would be. Then we can schedule another one, you know, if

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I'm resonating with that person and we're really getting somewhere. Oh, that's great.

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So they can schedule a fourth one or a fifth one. But I have on my calendar a 30 minute,

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a 60 minute and a 90 minute because some people are real quick thinkers and they'd rather

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do a 90 minute and get it all done with, you know. And they're good at following directions

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and they lead a big corporation. You know, those people would want like a 60 or 90 minute

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one where they can just check this off their list. They're not stuck it anymore. You know,

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so and other people need, you know, the slow, gentle, you know.

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I normally try and keep this to 30 minutes. So I will jump into the next question. Okay.

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So I just wanted to go, sorry, maybe not question, maybe overview just to confirm what you said.

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So when you have the three sessions, you have it all about the one topic. So you wouldn't

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go trauma in one session and then money blocks in another session and then the final session

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wrap up. It would be all on trauma for the three sessions and sort of work your way through

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that and then the fourth and fifth session might be, you know, on money blocks or another

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topic. Well, yes and no. It's not, I don't prescribe

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anything. It's all custom. Like the slip covers were all custom, right? So the first thing

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I do in every session is to listen and find out where they're at. But in that first session,

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we zero in and solve a problem. The second session, I make sure the problem was solved

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and celebrate their results and listen again. Sure.

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See if there's more that they want to share. They have to come, you know, they won. They

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had a win with the first one. And in the second session, you know, they're verifying that

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they had that win to themselves, which is the most important thing. And then I'll listen

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again and say, you know, is there, they'll say it. They'll say it. Yeah. They'll say,

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well, yeah, but now this is a problem. Or they'll say, give you those, those clues.

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Could you help me with this other thing? Yeah. Then you help me with that. I'm getting that

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it's in my mind, but I'm not real experienced and extra, you know, uh, adept at using my

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mind this way for solutions. You see, because most people are knee deep in their emotions

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about what's happening and they're not working on, they can't set that aside to experience

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it, you know, by screaming into their pillow or something else, going on a nature walk

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or whatever. There's so many things you can do to exercise your emotions so it doesn't

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get stuck in your body. And so just, and, and, oh, sorry, go on.

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And so then, you know, sometimes, you know, it's, it's only two and they're good to go.

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And then other people work with me for the better part of a year. Wow. So my goodness.

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Yeah. So then are there any action steps that, I mean, you said you give homework. So what

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action steps would there be to sort of help further cement that session in the long term?

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They have a specific replacement thought. So they were stuck in, for instance, an emotional

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response to what happened. And I've got them to break that off and move it away from them.

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So, and then have the homework is the new thought that serves them according to what

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they think serves them, not what I think. I'm absolutely fascinated by this topic. I

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would love to have another discussion, but we do need to come to a close. So did you

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want to tell me, our listeners, the social media, any social media links that you have

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or where they can find you?

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Yeah. They, I love answering these types of questions in the Facebook group called Pasha

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Salon. And then later on, when they've learned how to use their intuition more, they can

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graduate into the other Facebook group, which is Intuition for the Masters. That's more

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of how society is going to change. And by the way, it's already started changing.

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Oh, absolutely.

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Haven't you noticed that people, when you ask them, when you share an experience, instead

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of asking what you think they say, how do you feel about that?

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Yes, I think so. But I also think there are more people sort of waking up and less people

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that are unconscious. Yeah, that's a good word for it.

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Yes.

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Oh, thank you so much for joining me today. It has been such a pleasure. If anyone that

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is wanting to find out more information, please check out Pasha Salon.

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