1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,880 Hi, I'm Quinn Carnegie, welcome to Manifestation, Motivation and Passion. 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:11,460 If you're looking to transform by delving into brain science, sacred inner wisdom and 3 00:00:11,460 --> 00:00:16,320 want to heal and feel great about your life and live in your powerful loving centre, whilst 4 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:20,360 bringing affluence into your world, then tune in, and let's evolve together. 5 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:28,360 Hi, I'm Quinn and you're listening to Manifestation, Motivation and Passion, Brain Rewiring Required. 6 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:35,160 Today I have Penny with me and Penny has an in-depth knowledge of naturopathic support 7 00:00:35,160 --> 00:00:36,760 and homeopathy. 8 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:43,240 Penny also specializes in nutritional advice, blood chemistry analysis and hair tissue mineral 9 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:44,760 analysis. 10 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:51,120 And when Penny's not in the clinic, she also teaches and supervises students in homeopathy 11 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,360 and nutritional medicine, as well as having three beautiful children. 12 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:55,360 Wow, that's a lot. 13 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,440 Yeah, I get a little bit busy. 14 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,360 Thank you again for joining me. 15 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:10,000 So my interest was all about trauma and how that relates to the brain. 16 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:17,600 And what fascinated me was until recently, I wasn't aware that serotonin is a neurotransmitter 17 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:24,160 that regulates sleep, mediates mood and inhibits pain, but it also produced in the gastrointestinal 18 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,160 tract. 19 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:29,440 So does what happens in the gut contribute to how the brain functions? 20 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:30,440 Yeah. 21 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,440 Oh God, it's such a huge topic as well. 22 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:38,240 And one of the things I know from trauma is that it's really difficult to get a chicken 23 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,800 or egg situation, which one is the cause of bad gut function and which is the cause of 24 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,040 bad brain function. 25 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:51,720 But with trauma, I mean, I guess you're aware too, that the bad stuff starts first in the 26 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,920 bad feelings and stress, fight, flight switches on. 27 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:01,920 So in a way to get to that whole serotonin thing, we've got to kind of look first at, 28 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:03,960 you know, the vagus nerve, right? 29 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:04,960 Yes. 30 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:10,800 Everybody goes on and on about the vagus nerve in trauma, kind of treatments and all of that 31 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:11,800 kind of thing. 32 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:19,200 So if you're in fight flight because you've had trauma and you're reacting inappropriately 33 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:25,400 in a non-dangerous situation, but that your brain is telling you that there's danger, 34 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:29,440 you're switching on your fight flight, which is a sympathetic nervous system. 35 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,940 This is all your nervous system that is governed automatically and it's called the autonomic 36 00:02:33,940 --> 00:02:34,940 nervous system. 37 00:02:34,940 --> 00:02:39,040 You're not actually aware of it all happening unless you're a yogi or something, you know, 38 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:44,620 there are a lot of people who get really into meditation and they can influence their nervous 39 00:02:44,620 --> 00:02:48,240 system and you can, but anyway, I'm going off track. 40 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:56,040 So in terms of when you have that trauma trigger response in a situation that's not actually 41 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:00,120 dangerous, your body's switched on as though it's dangerous. 42 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,720 You're not going to be prioritizing rest and digest and repair. 43 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:09,640 You're going to be prioritizing running away from whatever threat, real or imagined, is 44 00:03:09,640 --> 00:03:10,840 there. 45 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,920 So you're not going to be prioritizing your digestive system. 46 00:03:13,920 --> 00:03:14,920 Wow. 47 00:03:14,920 --> 00:03:21,600 So it means that, yeah, it minimizes blood supply then to your gut and it minimizes nerve 48 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,560 supply to your gut. 49 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:31,520 So the vagus nerve is one of the chief nerves that governs gut function, rest and digest 50 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,280 when you're not in fight flight. 51 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:38,800 So when you sit down to a meal and maybe you're having an argument with somebody or you've 52 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:43,040 seen something horrible on TV or you've just had a really hard day at work and you're sitting 53 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:48,800 down and thinking, oh, I've got to eat before I get into this next whatever and you're in 54 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,480 a rush, you've got fight flight switched on. 55 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,360 So you're not in rest and digest. 56 00:03:54,360 --> 00:04:02,360 So the vagus nerve, when it's switched on properly is parasympathetic rest digest repair. 57 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,640 So the vagus nerve governs making sure you've got enough stomach acid, making sure you've 58 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:12,360 got enough enzymes to digest, making sure gut mortality is working well. 59 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:16,040 So starting at the top, if you don't have, and I will get to serotonin in a sec, but 60 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:17,040 this is really important. 61 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:27,040 If you're switched on to fight flight, you're not going to have enough stomach acid, right? 62 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,720 Amongst all the other secretions. 63 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,600 And you might think, oh well, my stomach acid is a bit low, whatever. 64 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:37,960 But then you're going to get first of all, fermentation of protein in the stomach. 65 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,560 So it's not going to digest properly. 66 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,760 Then you're getting things like reflux happening. 67 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,880 And a lot of doctors will say, oh, but reflux is from high stomach acid. 68 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:54,600 Actually a lot of the time it's from low because you're getting gas glopping up into your esophagus. 69 00:04:54,600 --> 00:05:01,480 Then not only that, your stomach then secretes the food into the small intestine. 70 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:06,360 So the small intestine should be an alkaline environment because you've got the pancreas 71 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:13,400 and the bile salts neutralizing the stomach acid from the stomach. 72 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:22,000 But if you've got low stomach acid, when that food gets secreted into the small intestine, 73 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:28,540 you're not actually triggering off all of those secretions properly from the pancreas 74 00:05:28,540 --> 00:05:30,720 and from the gallbladder. 75 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:37,400 So the food, the chyme, which is what it's called, is actually too acidic for the small 76 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:42,520 intestine because it's not being adequately neutralized by those secretions. 77 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:47,940 Then what you get is the wrong bacteria growing there if it happens again and again and again, 78 00:05:47,940 --> 00:05:52,400 because then you've got a relatively acidic small intestine. 79 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:58,600 So that happens because of low stomach acid, because of a lot of the time, because of stress. 80 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:03,120 Then what happens is you get the wrong bacteria making the wrong products. 81 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:09,480 And one of those products that some of that bacteria make is serotonin. 82 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,920 There are other cells in the body dedicated to serotonin production as well. 83 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:20,800 It's not just the gut bacteria, but you're setting your gut bacteria up wrong right from 84 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,320 the start if you've got low stomach acid. 85 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:29,800 Wow, so it sounds like the gut really is the second brain then, because there's so much 86 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:35,960 going on that we need to look after to be able to get all those nutrients up to the 87 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,440 brain so it can do its job. 88 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:38,440 Yeah. 89 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,460 And one of the things about serotonin is it's also responsible for gut motility. 90 00:06:42,460 --> 00:06:43,460 What do you mean by that? 91 00:06:43,460 --> 00:06:44,460 Movement of... 92 00:06:44,460 --> 00:06:50,480 So you have these what's called peristaltic waves driving the food through the gut. 93 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:57,120 Now one of the substances responsible for peristalsis, those kind of movements that 94 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:02,280 the intestines make and the stomach, it's all of this muscle, this smooth muscle that's 95 00:07:02,280 --> 00:07:07,480 governed by what's called the enteric nervous system. 96 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:14,640 So what we're talking about with the second brain is that there's this entire nervous 97 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,320 system dedicated to the gut. 98 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:22,120 So the minute you swallow your food down your esophagus, which is that tube leading to the 99 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:28,640 stomach, to the anus, the whole gut is lined with nervous tissue called the enteric nervous 100 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:29,640 system. 101 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,680 And it's governed by what I was talking about earlier, the autonomic nervous system, and 102 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:40,200 a lot of it's governed by the vagus nerve, which is the chief autonomic parasympathetic, 103 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:46,480 it's called nerve that supplies that rest and digest kind of function of the gut. 104 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:47,720 Okay. 105 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:54,320 And now I understand with the enteric nervous system that fewer carbs and either less or 106 00:07:54,320 --> 00:08:00,040 no red meat can lead to like an improvement of gut health. 107 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,040 Is that... 108 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:05,120 I know everyone's different, but there's the... 109 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,320 And I can't think of the name of it. 110 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:14,120 There's a book that is your gut personality that says, you know, certain people shouldn't 111 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:15,560 eat meat and that sort of thing. 112 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,500 Is there any truth behind that? 113 00:08:18,500 --> 00:08:19,500 Is that the... 114 00:08:19,500 --> 00:08:21,000 There's eat right for your type? 115 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,000 I think it's called... 116 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,800 Oh, that's the one I'm thinking of. 117 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:24,800 Yes. 118 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:32,840 I would say yes, but with a grain of salt, I wouldn't generalize like that for anybody. 119 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:33,840 And there are variations. 120 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:41,040 I know people who are O blood types who theoretically do really well on meat, high protein meat 121 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,000 sort of diets who are vegan. 122 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:47,680 And I can't comment on how well they're doing or... 123 00:08:47,680 --> 00:08:50,800 But they seem to be doing fine. 124 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:56,760 Other people who are A blood types who theoretically could be better on a vegan diet, maybe eating 125 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,040 meat and being fine. 126 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:03,640 So I'm sure there are exceptions to that rule, but I can tell you a story about my own journey 127 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,240 when I was first studying, this was like 20 years ago. 128 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:12,640 It was very heavily kind of skewed towards plant-based diet. 129 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,800 And I'm not against a plant-based diet at all. 130 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,040 And I actually went plant-based for a while. 131 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:23,200 I lasted about two years and I'm an O blood type. 132 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:28,120 So I just remember walking past chicken shops and like salivating. 133 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:32,000 And my body did really badly. 134 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,120 And I was learning nutrition. 135 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:38,720 So I was making sure I was getting all the right plant proteins and combining proteins 136 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:45,160 between legumes and rice and just making sure everything was kind of balanced. 137 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:46,960 My hormones went out of whack. 138 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:47,960 It was terrible. 139 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,320 The whole thing was terrible. 140 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,360 I put on 10 kilos. 141 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,080 My hair started falling out. 142 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,400 My nails were buckling. 143 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,920 My iron just went through the floor. 144 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:58,920 My energy was terrible. 145 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,280 And my stomach was constantly bloated. 146 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,160 And I'm an O blood type. 147 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:10,280 So when I read that book, it actually gave me permission to stop being vegetarian. 148 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:15,680 I think certain people can cope very well with meat. 149 00:10:15,680 --> 00:10:20,440 And once I started eating quality meat, I'm talking grass-fed organic, if you can afford 150 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:21,800 it. 151 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:26,800 I think most people do need a little bit of that here and there because it provides such 152 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:35,480 a rich source of not only protein, but zinc and a whole lot of other minerals and iron. 153 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:43,200 And I think that balanced diet is so important, making sure you're aware of how your body 154 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,720 copes with particular foods. 155 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,800 And there is no one answer to all that. 156 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:56,200 On saying that what you're talking about with carbohydrates, that again, I don't think all 157 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,360 of us should be keto. 158 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:06,000 I think, and keto meaning only eating protein and your non-starchy vegetables. 159 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:11,080 I think that might be good for a short time for people who are in the fitness industry 160 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,240 or men, maybe some women. 161 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:20,520 But I think for people who are really adrenally drained, especially for women going through 162 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:27,200 perimenopause or women who have had a lot of trauma and maybe men as well, I can't speak 163 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:28,840 for men so much. 164 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:33,160 It's really hard on the adrenals and it's also really hard on thyroid function. 165 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:39,720 So I think some carbs are really nurturing, like your root vegetables, sweet potato, yammy 166 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,760 type things are quite good. 167 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:42,760 Yeah. 168 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:47,560 But there are various qualities of carbs. 169 00:11:47,560 --> 00:11:50,920 So your white rice has very high GI. 170 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,680 Yeah, chocolate lollies, all of that kind of thing. 171 00:11:54,680 --> 00:11:55,680 Yeah. 172 00:11:55,680 --> 00:12:00,480 A lot of people who crave carbs are very, usually very stressed and their adrenals are 173 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,320 crying out and they're in flight flight. 174 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,280 And if you're in flight flight, you're not in rest and digest. 175 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:12,040 So you're not going to be able to feel like you want a big protein nutritious meal. 176 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:17,680 You're just going to want carbs to feed your blood glucose to run away from that there, 177 00:12:17,680 --> 00:12:20,320 even if there is no there, because that's what flight flight does. 178 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:24,600 It gets your body ready and primed to run. 179 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,680 So it's not going to be into digest. 180 00:12:26,680 --> 00:12:28,680 I guess that's what you could say. 181 00:12:28,680 --> 00:12:30,720 So you will, you'll crave simple carbs. 182 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,080 Oh, sorry. 183 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:38,840 Can I just jump back to now you touched briefly on perimenopausal and I had a conversation 184 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:45,080 with someone just a couple of days ago that said, how do you trigger the chemicals in 185 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:55,720 your brain to offset perimenopause and or menopause because they don't have those feelings 186 00:12:55,720 --> 00:13:00,060 of I think her words were nothing excites me anymore. 187 00:13:00,060 --> 00:13:03,440 Like I feel like I'm just, it's no emotion. 188 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,960 Like it's just existing. 189 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:15,160 Yeah, how do you, I guess, raise, you know, through through food or, you know, is there 190 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:21,320 something that can be done to elevate those hormones naturally? 191 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:26,520 Yes, it's a big subject. 192 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:32,200 One of the problems with perimenopause, especially when it comes to the combination of perimenopause 193 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:40,720 and previous trauma is that when we stop ovulating, our ovaries no longer produce progesterone 194 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,520 in the same way. 195 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:46,480 And so our body relies on our adrenals to produce progesterone. 196 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:50,480 So of course, you know, a lot of us are in perimenopause, we've got kids, we've got 197 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,840 maybe aging parents, we've got really big job responsibility. 198 00:13:53,840 --> 00:14:00,280 So even without trauma, it's pretty full on and then you add in trauma and your adrenals 199 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,480 are usually pretty wiped out by. 200 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:09,760 So yeah, so if your adrenals are already wiped out, then I guess what can be done to focus 201 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:16,440 on that brain connection to improve your moods and your emotions. 202 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:21,560 It takes a bit of work and I don't know if you can get it perfect at 50. 203 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,840 I'm still working on that. 204 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:28,040 But supporting adrenal function is huge. 205 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:33,440 You know, not filling your body with caffeine, listening to the I'm tired cues, which can 206 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:39,600 be sometimes hard if you're not fully connected to your body, making sure you don't eat loads 207 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,240 of sugar, even if you have sugar cravings. 208 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:50,080 And one of the biggest indicators of low magnesium in the system is sugar cravings and losing 209 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:51,080 interesting. 210 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:55,680 Okay, I'm sugar and a tea girl. 211 00:14:55,680 --> 00:15:00,560 So yes, yes. 212 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:05,800 And a lot of people who have been through trauma, they crave sweets and caffeine because 213 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,140 they're stimulants. 214 00:15:07,140 --> 00:15:12,520 So they can help us stay in that stimulated state, which we're used to. 215 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,120 It's almost like we're addicted to it. 216 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:15,120 Yeah. 217 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:19,960 And I know I mentioned to you off air that I've been a victim or survivor, whichever 218 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,380 way you look at it, of human trafficking. 219 00:15:22,380 --> 00:15:29,320 So it's something that has prompted me to start the podcast and look at the different 220 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,600 ways that we can help ourselves. 221 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:39,720 So obviously, stress affects our cognitive abilities, sort of jumping back to that gastrointestinal 222 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:40,720 track. 223 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,040 Am I right? 224 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:47,760 I think I read somewhere that at least 50% is produced in our gut. 225 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:48,760 Is that correct? 226 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:49,760 Are you talking about serotonin? 227 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,680 Sorry, that was badly worded. 228 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:53,680 Yes, serotonin. 229 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,120 No, that's all right. 230 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,960 I think it's up to 90% or even more. 231 00:15:58,960 --> 00:15:59,960 Yeah. 232 00:15:59,960 --> 00:16:01,720 And serotonin is kind of our feel good hormone. 233 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,120 You know, there's that dopamine kind of thing. 234 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:09,500 And to put in a really, really oversimplified nutshell, dopamine, you get a hit. 235 00:16:09,500 --> 00:16:15,680 You know, if your sports team wins or if you do well in a video game, you get this dopamine 236 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,800 hit, which is why it's so addictive. 237 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:24,400 With serotonin, it's more our kind of contentment hormone, I guess you could say, where we feel 238 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:25,820 a little bit more content. 239 00:16:25,820 --> 00:16:32,600 So if we're really low in serotonin, we might be wired and constipated. 240 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:38,600 Sometimes it can lead to diarrhea as well, especially if the gut bacteria is wrong and 241 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,520 there's a whole lot of other stuff that's wrong. 242 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:47,440 But yes, because serotonin is responsible for gut motility, it can often lead to constipation 243 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:54,320 or imbalances in constipation, diarrhea, all of that kind of thing, and feeling anxious 244 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:55,320 and wired. 245 00:16:55,320 --> 00:17:02,280 But I think also you need a whole lot of nutrients to make sure the serotonin is produced. 246 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,400 You need the right gut bacteria imbalance. 247 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:09,240 And all of us, because I've had trauma as well, as you know. 248 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:15,520 So this is a big area of mine where I really focus on in my practice. 249 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:24,280 And it's about trying to help to tone down, first of all, that fight flight reaction trigger, 250 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:29,800 which doesn't happen in the gut, but the gut responds to it. 251 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:37,440 And I think that's where the core of it lies, which for me, food wise, you can't really 252 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:38,800 cause that to happen. 253 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:44,840 I mean, I'm saying that there are people with binging and stuff like that. 254 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:49,720 That sometimes can force blood and nerve supply to the gut, which I think is why people do 255 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:54,600 that because then it forces them, I guess, out of fight flight. 256 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,360 We don't want to be doing that because it's not good for our health and it's not good 257 00:17:57,360 --> 00:17:59,160 for our wellbeing. 258 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:07,760 But being able to find other ways to re-circuit, I guess, the subconscious and the brain so 259 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:14,400 that we can reduce that inappropriate fight flight trigger is key. 260 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:20,520 And no matter how much you support the gut in making serotonin in gut bacteria and all 261 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,600 of that kind of thing, that's still important. 262 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:30,880 And I'm not saying it's not, but I think to originate it at the core of it, at that emotional, 263 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:36,600 it's the amygdala in the brain that sends out those danger signals that's affected by 264 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:37,680 the trauma. 265 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,160 It's one of the areas of learning. 266 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:46,440 So if we can work on that part of ourselves and on the invisible part of ourselves that's 267 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:47,440 not... 268 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:54,640 There really is such a big topic to get my head around. 269 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:55,640 It's so complex. 270 00:18:55,640 --> 00:19:02,640 So are there, I guess, certain foods then that are going to be better for your cognitive 271 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,680 performance that can help, I guess, with that gut bacteria? 272 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:07,680 Yeah. 273 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:08,680 Yep. 274 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:09,680 So there are certain pre-bodies. 275 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,480 If you look online, and again, it's a huge topic. 276 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:18,080 There are certain prebiotic foods and even something like green banana flower is apparently 277 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:19,080 a prebiotic food. 278 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:20,080 It tastes horrific. 279 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:24,200 But I'm saying that. 280 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:28,680 And there are certain things that you can do to your food, like even just as simple 281 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:32,800 as cooking it in a little bit of quality oil and letting it cool. 282 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,440 These are your starches, your resistant starches. 283 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:43,720 And there's a little rice trick to make it lower GI and more beneficial for your good 284 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:50,560 bacteria by putting a little bit of coconut oil and cooking it with the evaporation method 285 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:56,160 rather than how a lot of us, we boil our rice and then tip it into the colander. 286 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:57,160 Yes. 287 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:04,000 You're better off Googling the evaporation method and using a really good quality, maybe 288 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:11,960 organic basmati, putting in a good glop, like a tablespoon of coconut oil while it's in 289 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:12,960 the boiling stage. 290 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:18,640 Then, you know, you turn it way down and put the lid on and that oil infuses into the rice 291 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,440 and you've got to cool it off. 292 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,640 So this is where it's good to cook it the night before or whatever, have leftovers and 293 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,960 then have it the next day and it changes the consistency of the starches. 294 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:35,080 See all these little tips and tricks and it makes a big impact. 295 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,080 Yes. 296 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:43,960 So, you know, sugar and high carb, high crappy carb, I would say, you know, like your sugars 297 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:48,280 and your lollies and your deep fried foods and your bad oils. 298 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:54,560 I'm a big believer in good oils like your beautiful organic olive oil and your coconut 299 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,720 oil and even GI and grass-fed butter. 300 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:04,680 Those kinds of oils and avocado oils and your omega-3s, they're the oils to be eating and 301 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,680 your body needs them and they reduce inflammation. 302 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:13,720 We haven't even started talking about inflammation yet, but inflammation is massively associated 303 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:21,560 with trauma and stressful moments and gut health or ill health and, you know, things 304 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,160 like gluten and dairy. 305 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:29,320 Who doesn't love a massive binge on toast when you've had a stressful whatever, but 306 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:34,040 it's the worst thing you can do to your gut and gluten in general for a lot of people 307 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:39,880 with trauma is quite a disaster, unfortunately, because your gut is already in a little bit 308 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,960 of an inflamed state. 309 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:46,600 Gluten the way it is these days in modern, you know, like your crappy breads and stuff 310 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,300 like that. 311 00:21:48,300 --> 00:21:51,920 It's a complete disaster for not only your gut bacteria. 312 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,880 That's such a shame. 313 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,880 It's nothing better than a crusty French roll. 314 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:58,880 And dairy. 315 00:21:58,880 --> 00:21:59,880 Yes. 316 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:00,880 And croissants. 317 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:01,880 I miss croissants. 318 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:02,880 Yeah. 319 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:09,400 So just on that note, so short-chain fatty acids have the power to cross blood-brain 320 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:15,120 barrier where they can impact the brain structure and function. 321 00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:22,920 And I read that on life science dot com that there was links to Alzheimer's and Parkinson's 322 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,720 and multiple sclerosis and depressive disorders. 323 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:31,920 So those oils you're talking about, do they contain those short-chain fatty acids? 324 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,680 You talking about things like trans fatty acids? 325 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,560 Yes, that's right. 326 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:42,980 One of the biggest implicators of those kinds of diseases is inflammation. 327 00:22:42,980 --> 00:22:48,080 And if you take in the wrong oils, I'm talking to you canola oil, your deep fried, cotton 328 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:52,880 seed oil, all of those oils, I've got to be careful what I say because I start getting 329 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,680 very passionate and sweary. 330 00:22:54,680 --> 00:23:01,960 All of those oils are disgusting for us and they can cause horrific inflammation, not 331 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,480 just in our gut, but in our brain as well. 332 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:09,120 And our brain needs the good oils to feed the myelin sheath. 333 00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:15,600 So the myelin sheath which surrounds the nerve itself helps to feed and nurture the nerve 334 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:22,040 and helps also with the signal as it passes down the nerve axon. 335 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:28,440 So if you don't have a healthy myelin sheath, your nerve system is just not going to work 336 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:29,440 no matter what. 337 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:34,320 And that myelin sheath is nurtured by your good fats. 338 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:39,040 And I just want to also say that if you've got leaky gut, which is because of inflammation 339 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:46,920 in the gut which damages the gut membrane, that area, the mucous membrane basically kind 340 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:54,800 of comes from the same point developmentally in the growing fetus back when it's an embryo. 341 00:23:54,800 --> 00:24:02,440 And the blood brain barrier is kind of from that same tissue originally, primordially. 342 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:07,240 So if you've got, and this is a new kind of thing, if you look up the science of it, it's 343 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:08,560 quite new. 344 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:15,760 If you've got leaky gut, and I know that's not necessarily considered a thing in conventional 345 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:23,840 science, but if you've got damaged gut tissue, you've also likely got compromised blood brain 346 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,860 barrier which lets in too much into the brain itself. 347 00:24:27,860 --> 00:24:31,160 So that's another thing to consider with gut health. 348 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,000 You want to make sure you've got really good gut health and your enterocytes lining the 349 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:41,040 gut are like little bounces stopping all the things that are inappropriate from getting 350 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,040 in. 351 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:47,200 So if those bounces have too much space between them, this is what's kind of considered leaky 352 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,760 gut where you're getting things that are too big leaking in. 353 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:55,200 You got leaky gut, you got leaky blood brain barrier, you're eating crappy fats, you're 354 00:24:55,200 --> 00:25:03,240 incorporating those fats, those trans and crappy fats into your cells and into your 355 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,480 brain tissue and it's causing inflammation. 356 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:15,400 So just quickly because we need to wrap up, if you have been on that path and say brain 357 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:21,280 barrier has been damaged, is there a way to then fix it? 358 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:22,840 I guess is a simple wording. 359 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,960 Yeah, it all starts in the gut and it all starts with gut health. 360 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:31,080 Sometimes it means living in a really boring way by cutting out a whole bunch of stuff. 361 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:37,040 Alcohol, for example, destroys gut function by destroying the tight junctions they're 362 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,520 called between the enterocytes of the gut. 363 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:44,800 So alcohol is a disaster going off a whole bunch of foods and this is where certain testing 364 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:50,920 can come in to see what kind of foods a person reacts to as well, but also bringing down 365 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:55,480 that fight flight response so that your gut is working properly. 366 00:25:55,480 --> 00:26:01,040 Looking at parasites and seeing if there's any parasites that have been opportunistic 367 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,080 parasites that have come in. 368 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,440 Also making sure your nutrients are there properly. 369 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:11,240 A lot of people don't absorb nutrients and our food is quite depleted. 370 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:17,720 So making sure you've got enough magnesium in quality supplements, making sure you've 371 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:24,080 got all of those trace minerals that allow your body to make all of the digestive enzymes, 372 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,200 making sure your stomach acids there properly. 373 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:33,080 There's a whole lot of things you can do for that to improve gut function and to improve 374 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,680 also adrenal function. 375 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,000 Yeah, it's all connected. 376 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:42,000 I'm going to get going and go and find my magnesium. 377 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:48,320 No, genuinely though, thank you, it's been really informative. 378 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:49,320 Yeah, thanks. 379 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,920 It really is such a big topic to try and get your head around, but it's huge. 380 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,280 It's a great start. 381 00:26:55,280 --> 00:27:01,400 So hopefully it's helped someone to be able to break it down a little bit and get some 382 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,520 value and to be able to help them improve their own lives. 383 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:05,520 So thank you again. 384 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:06,520 No worries. 385 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:07,520 Thanks, Quinn. 386 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:13,160 If you'd like to hear more from Penny, I'll leave the web link in the show notes. 387 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:18,720 I'm Quinn Carnegie and I hope you enjoyed this week's episode of Manifestation, Motivation 388 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:19,720 and Passion. 389 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:25,840 I'm so thrilled you chose to spend time listening and would be even more grateful if you left 390 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:26,840 a positive review. 391 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:31,360 And if you found value, no doubt your family and friends will too. 392 00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:34,000 I'd love it if you share it with them. 393 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,640 Thanks again.