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Hey guys, what's up?

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Welcome back to the homework assignment podcast.

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Really excited to have you guys listening in.

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For those of you guys that haven't tuned in with us before, this podcast is focused on

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trying to understand, not only find but understand the balance between home and work life, whether

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you're an entrepreneur, entrepreneur, you know, whatever you're doing, whatever that hustle

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is for you, being able to understand the balance in each in particular trade and you know,

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walk of life because everybody has different circumstances and that balance changes between

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each and every person.

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So that's what we focus on today.

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There's been a couple of things that I think I wanted to touch base on some things that

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have happened come to light here recently within our company.

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And those two things are belief in yourself as well as risk and being able to understand

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certain risks and also be able to know and trust yourself enough to take those risks.

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I guess we're all start is, you know, in business or in in that hustle that daily grind to get

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to where you want to be.

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There is a lot of things that are going to test your abilities.

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There's a lot of things that are going to make you feel like you don't know what you're

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doing that is going to make you think like if you're if you're cut out for, you know,

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this specific task or whatever it is you might be doing.

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And it creates a lot of self doubt.

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I've talked about this a few different times.

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I've touched base on it to where like as you are going on the road towards progression

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on the road to success, that road comes with certain feelings that you cannot escape.

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And those feelings are some of the worst feelings that a human being can feel such as anxiety,

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fear, depression, you know, I could go on and on.

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And many people think they can, for some reason, avoid that.

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And I was one of those people in early on thinking that, you know what, I can, I can

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do this differently.

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And it wasn't until a couple years in where I realized, okay, you know what, I need to

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accept that these things are going to happen and I can't avoid them.

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And I have to adapt to them and kind of paint that picture a little bit better and kind of

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give you guys an example is, you know, when you start something and you have this great

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plan, you know what?

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I'm going to go ahead and sell 500 shirts.

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I know more than 500 people.

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Shoot, I got 3000 friends on Facebook.

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Okay, I'm going to sell 500 shirts and I'm going to sell them for $20 a pop and they

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only cost me 10.

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We'll just keep the math easy.

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Hopefully they cost you a little bit less.

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But you know, and so what is that?

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Okay, 500 times 10.

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Well, that's $50,000.

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If my math and my head's correct, it's been a long day.

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Don't check that for me.

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500 times 10, right?

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It has been a long day.

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I'm great.

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I'm mad.

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I just made that mistake.

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But either way, okay, so, you know, okay, very easy.

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I'm going to pick a shirt.

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I'm going to do it.

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I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to sell to 500 people and I could probably do that

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in about three months.

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It shouldn't be that hard.

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Come to find out three months passes and you've sold maybe 100 shirts.

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So that didn't go as planned.

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And what happens in that moment is that's where those emotions kind of kick in.

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Okay, you know what?

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Like, my plan didn't go as planned.

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Yeah, I thought it was so simple.

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When I first thought about it was so simple.

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All these Instagram people make it seem so simple.

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Come make X amount of dollars, you know, drop shipping, Amazon store, all this.

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It should be so simple.

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Everybody makes it seem so simple.

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Maybe I'm not cut out.

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What did I do wrong?

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I have no, can I do this?

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Like I, you know what I mean?

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And especially when it comes to money and you're starting something or you're, you know,

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taking on a job at a lower pay rate to invest with a company that you know has a bright future,

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you know, when it comes to money and the stuff it takes to live and pay those expenses, then

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you know, that doubt that you have is, is even more, it's even stronger, right?

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Because now it's messing with your livelihood, your life.

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It's not like just this little side hustle that you don't need.

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And that creates a lot of those, a lot of those moments.

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But what people don't understand is those type of moments at the beginning, those kind

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of self doubts, even when you push through it, even when you make it and become successful,

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those don't leave because there's always a next level.

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There's always a next step of progression.

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And so, you know, when I first started, I'm like, okay, I just got to get through the

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hard part, the startup.

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I just got to get through the startup.

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Well, fast forward four years later from the startup to now where, you know, I'm looking

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like, okay, dude, like million dollar credit lines, never thought I would have those, like

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all these crazy cool things that I've been able to, you know, we've been able to accomplish

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as a team.

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Well, now it's like, okay, I still have that anxiety, that fear, that doubt, those, those

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moments, those bad days when things don't go right and things go wrong.

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And I'm at a level I only could have dreamed about the kind of level where I try to vision

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myself out at, right?

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And now my vision is at a whole nother level.

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And so it's like, I'm at the startup here now for my next level.

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And you know, I've kind of referred to that before, something I've learned in a couple

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coaching programs.

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I'm a grand card don't teach a little bit about this.

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But those are like those breaking points, you know, and so each breaking point is like

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a whole new level.

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It gets harder as you're getting bigger and you start dealing with these emotions.

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Now, one of the key things in business or in any successful journey is a belief in yourself.

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And the reason I started talking about these emotions first is because these are the things

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that hold people back because this is what affects their self belief.

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This is these are the things that make people lose confidence in themselves.

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And so to understand first that no matter what happens, no matter how much, how many

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accomplishments you're able to to obtain all the great success you're able to obtain,

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no matter what happens, these emotions are going to be present.

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Kind of reminds me of that movie inside out, which I think many people have seen the first

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one.

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If you haven't seen the second one, it's in theaters.

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It's really good.

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But you know, if for those of you who have it or just a recap, like it's a movie, a cartoon

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movie about this, you know, this girl who has these different people inside her head

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that all represent different emotions.

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And as she becomes a little bit older, number two, she gets a couple new emotions that she

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didn't have as a toddler.

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And that is anxiety, embarrassment, and a couple other ones.

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And so, you know, no matter what happens, those people like those emotions are there.

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And so when when you understand that they're always going to be there, now you can create

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a plan to adapt and figure out how to utilize those emotions for gain rather than for damage.

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So in other words, when you guys are feeling, you know, anxious, because here, here's a great

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example, I'll talk about yesterday.

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Yesterday was just a frickin crappy day for so many reasons.

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Or let me let me say this, it should have been a crappy day for many reasons.

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And that is because I had several things happen.

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I went to a job in the morning.

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And during that job, that meeting with my client, I had several different things that

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popped up during this meeting.

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And it was like I had a client that was really upset because of some things that I've transpired.

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And then I also had a huge commercial project for some schools hounding me about material

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that wasn't showing up on time and the school dates a week away.

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And then they need to open their doors.

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And then I also had another client that had some issues that only I could resolve as far

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as like getting them certain information.

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And it was so overwhelming, right.

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And so one of the things about business and about highly successful people is understanding

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or being able to have a high tolerance to pressure and not being able to buckle.

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And I'm going to get a little bit more further in the detail on this.

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But all these things happen.

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So my first half of the morning I'm running around, I'm putting out fires.

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And it sucked.

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It absolutely sucked.

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And you know, going back four years ago, the RJ then who didn't understand that or thought

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that I could overcome these emotions where I never had to deal with them as long as I

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could get more money or as long as my business got to this point, I wouldn't have these emotions.

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That RJ on this day would have literally about cracked.

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I would have went home.

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I would have treated my my wife like crap, my kids.

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I would have been short tempered and patient.

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I would have been rude to people and I would have been extremely unhappy.

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Fast forward to now having that understanding that, hey, these emotions are always going

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to be here.

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Now I need to learn how to utilize them.

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Now that I knew that my first half of the day, I was, you know, those moments of like,

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okay, well, got all these problems, take one step at a time.

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Let me handle this problem first, boom, then this problem, boom, then this problem.

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And I just went through the line and I was able to resolve everything, right?

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And then my second half of the day, other things pop up and I was able to control the

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situation and I was able to maintain my, my emotions and get everything that was needed

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done and focus on the solution.

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I did give myself a few minutes to be like, holy crap, this sucks.

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But then I was able to take care of it.

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Then I go home.

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I go home.

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I had dinner with my family.

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It was awesome.

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My brother came over.

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We all had some great conversations actually about literally this kind of stuff.

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And then, you know, I was able to be with my children and, you know, I played some video

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games.

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I was able to decompress and it was a good day and it wasn't just this terrible, you

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know, terrible day in my life on the map.

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And so when we get these emotions and we let those emotions control the outcome, that is

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where you enter the danger zone and you are most likely going to fail rather being able

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to understand, okay, hey, I'm feeling anxiety right now.

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Okay, well, what's the cost of that?

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Well, it's because I just missed a phone call from this client.

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I know this client's ticked off or I missed this order.

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I know they're mad.

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Okay, well, to give yourself a second, feel it and then attack it head on and be able

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to problem solve that.

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Now, that is the action part.

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The second part of this is believing, loving and understanding who you are enough that

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when situations pop up, you have the self-confidence that you are going to figure it out.

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Okay, we live in this victim culture.

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I've mentioned it many times and many other people have mentioned it.

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This victim culture is the poor me culture.

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It's the, oh, why did this have to happen to me?

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Oh, well, if this didn't happen, I would be this.

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I don't think there's anything wrong to think that.

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You know, I've made a business that where I'm like, man, if I wouldn't have made this

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business, if I would have agreed to this term specifically, which I didn't even need to

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agree to, I could have made an extra $150,000.

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Okay, it's okay to have those thoughts, but to soak in them and to let them be the culprit

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for many of your, your actions and to allow them to consume your mind, which then deviates

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your path of where you could be going and or distracts you from being able to see the

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good things that are in front of you.

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That's where it gets really dangerous.

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And so your mindset of understanding that like, Hey, no matter what happens, I know

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who I am, I know I can overcome, it makes it a million times easier to fight back against

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those emotions of anxiety, fear, embarrassment, and even pride to be able to get through what

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you need to get through and have a solution and execute.

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And that's, it's a very hard thing to do.

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It's a very hard thing to under two, one first realize, you know what?

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I don't have confidence in myself.

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You know what?

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I don't, I don't know if I can handle every situation.

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It's hard to admit that.

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Then the second steps even harder, well, how do I fix that?

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Well you fix that by accomplishing things.

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You fix that by being okay with where you are now and who you are, meaning, I want to

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be very clear of this.

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It's okay not to be happy where you're at.

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Let me rephrase this.

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It's okay to want to be somewhere better, but you still have to be happy with where you're

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at in the moment, but know and not lose sight of where you're going.

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This is a big mistake people make.

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They're not happy with where they're at and that consumes them.

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And so, so a lot of times those people, those type of people become successful, but the

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difference is, is they're very unhappy throughout that process because they were never content

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with where they were at.

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This is, again, the whole motion and the belief in yourself.

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This is where it becomes a game changer for successful people because you can go through

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the ride and maybe you do push it and maybe you have all these negative things feel you,

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but looking back, if you could look back and realize you could have really, truly enjoyed

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every single moment going forward on that same path like you would have got there anyways,

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but you could have done it upset or you could have done it happy.

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Which one would you have chosen?

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Obviously the happy route, right?

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And so, the reason that doesn't happen is because of those emotions that people end

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up letting themselves just be consumed by and it's sad to see, but then there's the other

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side.

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The other side is the side where, hey, you know what?

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Okay, hey, maybe, maybe you're, you just lost a huge contract that your company needed and

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you're about to, you don't know how you're going to pay payroll next week.

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That is a, that's a huge situation for many business owners, many small business owners.

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Every successful person has had those type of moments and if you go home and you're like,

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well crap man, you know, I suck.

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I shouldn't be doing this.

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And you think those things and then you let those things sit and you soak.

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Guess what doesn't happen?

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You don't find a solution.

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Or you let the anxiety and the fear drive you and you make desperate decisions which

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maybe solve the problem, but are like a bandaid and actually do more damage in the long run.

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That also happens a ton.

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That's happened to me a ton, especially like on money issues.

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Well, fear and anxiety press in and instead of looking at the harder way of like, hey,

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maybe, okay, where can I collect money for my AR reports?

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What clients owe me money?

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Where can I try and get money?

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Can I make this job move?

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Like, can I accelerate it by one week to be able to collect this big check?

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Instead of going through all that, the fear and anxiety has driven me in the past to be

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like, oh crap, you know what?

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No, I need to go get a hard money loan.

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It's going to cost me 50 grand for $100,000, but I don't care.

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I need the hundred grand right now.

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I'm not going to sell my prom for two weeks.

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But guess what happens when you get too much down the road?

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You might be in the same position, but now you have even more on top of what you would

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have had.

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And so it just makes the situation worse.

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And so to wrap this up in a nutshell, and I don't know if I'm kind of reiterating myself

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over and over again, but wrap it up in a nutshell, it is negative emotions.

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These emotions that people feel that we all feel in every single circumstance in life are

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always going to be there.

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And the only way for you to truly be successful is by understanding that they're always going

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to be there, that you can't get rid of them and learning how to use them to make yourself

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successful.

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Understanding how to use anxiety and transform that anxiety into a calming drive or to transform

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fear into a calming hope.

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And then you're clear in mind, you're able to make way better decisions.

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When people are backed into a corner, dangerous actions are done.

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Dangerous decisions are made.

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We learn that from wars throughout history.

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We learn that in our presidential candidacy or whatever that word is.

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The elections, we learn that all over.

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We see that all over, but nobody truly ever learns apparently.

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And so I invite you guys to learn that because it's a game changer.

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It's a game changer.

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I've seen several companies in the past six months that are, you know, been in business

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same amount of time as me, but they can't break out of a million or $2 million.

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And we're on track to do $12 million this year.

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We've done more every single year.

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It's like, well, what's the difference?

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The difference isn't, I mean, hey, there may be some skills and stuff, but one of the big

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differences I see is that when I meet those business owners, I'm like, okay, you lack confidence.

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You are controlled by anxiety and fear of payroll.

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You're, you know, you're controlled of, well, you got to sell today, but you're scared about

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next month because what work will come next month?

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Like all these things that hold people back and contain them.

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There is a negative force in this world that wants nothing more than for you to fall and

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fail.

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And so not only are you trying to do something great, but there's also a force pushing against

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you.

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And that is why the truly successful people are a small percentage of the entire population.

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That is why that is why 98% of small business owners don't do more than $3 million in revenue.

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That is why understanding emotions, understanding how to overcome plan and execute.

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That is why people like our company is in that top 2%.

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I think we're actually in the 1% because I feel what the other barrier is, but that's

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exactly why.

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And then you go further, right?

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If I look in construction, the top, the top revenue construction company in the world

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or in the nation can't remember the name, but they, they did like $17.9 billion last

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year.

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Where did they start?

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Things that are doing $500 million year in revenue.

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Where did they start?

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Many of these places, I know there's a multi, there's a billionaire that I know that, that

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we actually are doing a project with.

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And he started up from absolutely nothing.

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What is the difference guys?

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The difference is apart from the fundamentals of business, which is one side.

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There's also kind of that home side of self, yourself, who you are being able to manage

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yourself to make proper decisions, manage your emotions, being able to not freak out

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and make the situation worse, but realize and make the situation better.

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I know you guys get it.

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I really wanted to share that because like I said, from the outside, people can look at

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my, at my company and be like, wow, you know, well, you guys are on pace, you're doing great,

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the sales are great, you're, you're probably making good money.

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You know, your wife drives a nice car, you drive a nice truck, you got, you know, you

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know, $10,000 watches on, you got thousands of dollars of cash in your pocket.

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Yeah, that all looks great.

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Do you see all this back end stuff?

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Do you see me pacing around my house at 10 o'clock at night because I have an upset client.

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I'm trying to figure out how to answer them or do you see me on a phone call in the morning

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making 18 phone calls so I can get this, you know, $2 million contract executed on time

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or, you know, all the back end stuff nobody sees.

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And so you get, you get, you only get the part that, that looks good.

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You don't get all the nitty gritty.

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You really don't.

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And that nitty gritty is the most important part because that's what makes everything.

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Right.

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That kind of preps for the second part of this podcast.

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The second part of this podcast is risk.

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Guys, I, there's, I've talked about this a little bit before.

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And I always say that because I invite you guys to go back.

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Let's do some other podcasts.

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You know, it's, it's funny how there's always so much to talk about in different situations

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and different circumstances, but the laws of success are, even though they may be a

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little bit different per situation, the law maintains the same and they're just implemented

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differently by different people because we're all different.

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But if you look back all the things, the most success Elon Musk, whoever the owner of Amazon

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is Jeff Bezos, right?

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All these people that have done great things.

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If you actually break down their stories, they did all of the same things to get to

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where they needed to go.

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They had different situations.

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And so they had to take the laws and manipulate and adapt, you know, use them and adapt themselves

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to their situation.

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But the laws maintain the same, the same, right?

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So it's, it's funny when you actually look at it to understand that like, Hey, if you

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just do all the same things, you're bound for success, right?

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Musk is a huge piece of the puzzle here.

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And there's, there's a positive side of, well, there's a side of being willing and not being

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scared of taking risk.

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And then there's the, obviously the bad side of it, right?

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So of not wanting to.

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So there is, you know, this really famous guy, Dave Ramsey, you guys all heard of him.

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And some people bag on, you know, Dave Ramsey mindset and all that kind of stuff.

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I don't bag on it.

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And here's why here's the deal.

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Dave Ramsey mindset, the curriculum that he teaches works.

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It works.

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It depends on where you're at and what you're trying to do, whether it will work for you

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or not.

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Jeff Bezos or not Jeff Bezos.

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I just had his name.

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No, have I been saying, Oh no, Dave Ramsey.

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I was saying Dave Ramsey, right?

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I wasn't saying, okay, cool.

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So many people, right?

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So Dave Ramsey's curriculum is like, Hey, save, you know, and, you know, I invest.

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I had a guy that I just met a little while back and he was talking to me about like,

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you know, what you need to do is you need to open up an IRA.

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You need to put X amount of dollars in and in about 20 years, you're going to have a

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million dollars.

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And I'm sitting here and like, Okay, well, you know, for my, let's see, do I know anybody?

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Yeah, like for, for my cousin, who's a teacher, that's fantastic.

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If you can do that, put 300 bucks away every single, every single month or every single

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check for, you know, 15, 20 years, you got a million dollars.

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That's phenomenal.

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If you bring that up to me, I'm going to think like, well, what I'm not going to judge because

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I have this understanding, right?

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But most people are going to look at you like in the hustle in my position and be like,

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bro, are you dumb?

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A million dollars in 20 years, that's sad.

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I want to make a million dollars in six weeks.

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Right.

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So there's a difference level there and that's the difference in people and it's okay to

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be that person who wants to be a teacher who, you know, can, you know, be able to actually

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get a million dollars by the time they're 50.

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That's fantastic.

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I read a book called millionaire millionaire next door.

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It's a great read, but it wasn't, I learned, you know, in the first couple of chapters

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that it wasn't really for me because it just wasn't my mindset.

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But I read the whole book because to understand things, to get knowledge, understand how everyone

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in the world works, that's how, you know, that's a great asset.

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So in this book, it talks about, you know, all these different people who were firefighters,

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teachers that were, you know, being able to do certain things and, you know, become millionaires

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and have millions of dollars by the time they retired by working normal jobs and it compared

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them to doctors who had flashy lives and made a lot of money, but their net worth in 30

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years in their 60s was like a percentage of the net worth of these people who were able

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to create millions not being a doctor, not having that flashy lifestyle.

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And so, you know, like Dave Ramsey, his stuff works, that kind of stuff works if that is

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your type of lifestyle, right?

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You know, I had, and I'll get to the rest part, but I'm just kind of, you know, going

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on some things that are coming on my mind, you know, there's the people that are like,

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you know, hey, you know what, like money, you know, I wish I had money, you know, I wish

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I was rich, I wish I was rich.

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And yet then they're sitting there studying for to be a teacher, they're studying to,

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you know, they're entering a career path that doesn't have the capability to bring them

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what they're seeking.

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And then they go through this whole path and they are upset that they don't have money

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their whole lives.

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Okay, well, how can like, there is, I don't know anything about teachers.

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And so maybe someone can ask this on here, but I don't think there is a way for you

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to be a super wealthy person by being a kindergarten teacher.

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I mean, sure, maybe you can get it be a principal, board of directors for a school, maybe you

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can make 200 K here, but to be able to make millions of dollars a million a month, for

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example, $12 million a year, and you know, take home, you're not going to do that being

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a teacher, you're not going to do that being a fireman.

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And these, you know, those two jobs are noble jobs.

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Education is is really important at a certain level.

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I don't believe in college.

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That's just me unless you're going to be a doctor.

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So hey, at that point being a doctor, being a lawyer, education is super important.

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Firemen, police officers, noble, but to me, there's a sacrifice there.

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They're sacrificing money, which they may not want.

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Or if they do, they're sacrificing that for a greater good.

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That's amazing.

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But you can't get to the level, those levels, right?

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And so you have to put yourself in a position for money.

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And a lot of time that takes risks, right?

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You could have a nine to five job, build your way up in a company to make a quarter million

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dollars a year and cap off there and live a comfortable life, drive really nice cars,

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invest, make a couple million dollars in real estate, all that fun stuff.

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Fantastic.

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You could take the risk of starting your own venture and being broke for five years and

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then all of a sudden making, you know, 15, 20 million dollars a year.

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And that's a dramatic risk, right?

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Well, let me let me try and paint the picture of risk in another way.

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In business, if you are scared to take debt out and you're trying to start your business

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trying to start your business by with no debt and you're trying to fund everything personally,

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it is possible, but it's slower.

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Okay.

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This is why there are companies out there right now that are started the same time I

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did four years in business and they're breaking $2 million or they just broke through $1 million

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this year and we're breaking through through 12.

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There's a reason.

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That is because I have $1.3 million of debt out there.

461
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,280
They don't.

462
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,920
They bought all their vehicles, cash, all their equipment, cash.

463
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:13,160
Me, I took out loans for every single thing, took out whether it was hard money loans,

464
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,480
SBA loans, I took, I borrowed money to grab everything we have.

465
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:22,080
And that is why we were able to grow at an accelerated pace.

466
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,880
Now, how do I sleep at night with over a million dollars of debt?

467
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,200
I sleep pretty dang good.

468
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:32,080
And right now I'm pushing to get another million dollars more worth of debt right now, trying

469
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,080
to get it next week.

470
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,040
What am I going to do with that debt?

471
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:39,440
I'm going to make more money with it.

472
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,080
That's what you do with debt and that is good debt.

473
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,400
Now I'm not an expert.

474
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:48,480
I still make bad decisions and I'm trying to learn more about good debt, you know, all

475
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,920
that kind of stuff, but just with no knowledge at all and credit, no knowledge at all and

476
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:57,800
debt, I started taking out all this money and I started hiring people and paying more

477
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,080
in marketing and doing this and doing that.

478
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:07,560
And I was able to create something out of nothing versus if I would have, well, I want

479
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,160
to save, I'm going to do a couple jobs.

480
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,000
I'm going to live off of it.

481
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,800
So I'm going to have to do, I'm going to have to spend six months, do X amount of jobs to

482
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,040
be able to live and also buy one truck.

483
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,560
Then I'm going to do another three months, live and then I'll have enough money to hire

484
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,880
a person or buy this equipment.

485
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:25,880
Okay.

486
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,480
Or you could go get a hundred thousand dollars and do all that in a matter of two weeks and

487
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,480
then grow, right?

488
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:39,600
So the risk is such an important factor because if you're scared to take risk, if you go into

489
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,560
business with the day, like if you're trying to build a huge successful company, build

490
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:48,640
an empire or make millions and millions and millions of dollars by building a company,

491
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:55,800
the Dave Ramsey mindset is going to literally kill your dream and is going to have you stuck

492
00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:00,880
at a plateau, a breaking point that you don't get past.

493
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:05,160
There's other factors in that, but the risk man, the risk is a huge, huge factor.

494
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,000
It's a huge factor.

495
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:12,320
Is it scary getting a million dollar credit line and maxing it out and buying, getting

496
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:19,960
new employees, paying for crazy marketing, $10,000 a month in marketing and all these

497
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:26,960
signs, getting awesome vehicles for a brand and wrapping it and doing it like, dude, yeah,

498
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:27,960
it's scary.

499
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:28,960
What happens if you fail?

500
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,640
Well, now you owe a million dollars, you're bankrupt.

501
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:40,920
Again, controlling your emotions, being able to see past the fear and the anxiety and say,

502
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,560
yeah, but what if, what if it does work?

503
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:45,920
Here's the deal.

504
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,640
You're in control whether it works or not.

505
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,240
Plain and simple.

506
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:54,560
Sometimes things happen in life that, you know, I talked about that, I think two podcasts

507
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,240
ago, the difference between failure and quitting that I learned from our coaching program,

508
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,240
which was phenomenal.

509
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,240
Okay.

510
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,400
Failure is doing everything you possibly can to succeed and it not working.

511
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:05,400
Okay.

512
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,560
Then with that failure, you get back up, you learn from it and you do it all over again,

513
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:10,560
right?

514
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:15,160
Failure is not doing everything you possibly can to succeed and then fail.

515
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,360
So if your goal is to hit $3 million this year and you did a million last year and you're

516
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:27,440
still doing XYZ and you hit a million dollars this year again, that was only failure if you

517
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:28,440
tried everything.

518
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:33,560
And I can tell you something, the risk part, like especially risk and money or the risk

519
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,200
in certain deals will hold you back.

520
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:44,920
Great example and risk is right now we were fighting against four really, I want to say

521
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,400
really big because I don't know what your guys' sense of that, but like some renowned

522
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,560
construction companies on six commercial projects.

523
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,040
And three of these companies, you know, they're bids.

524
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:05,080
I was the second highest company out of all four bids and I was awarded two of the contracts

525
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:11,320
out of the six and one of the things was, hey, well for you to do this project, this

526
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:15,640
company, this management company that was trying to get contracted for this project

527
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:23,520
for the landlord, their policy is that you can't pre-lean a property.

528
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,360
In construction, what a pre-lean means is like, hey, I'm going to put a pre-lean on

529
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:27,360
your house.

530
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:32,160
So if you don't pay me, I will then have a lean on your house, which means I basically

531
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:37,200
have that much money of equity in your house until you pay me or if you sell the property,

532
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,840
then I get paid from that sale in inlayment terms.

533
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,280
That's pretty much what a lean is.

534
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:44,560
Like a lean on a vehicle, right?

535
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,120
Like the bank owns it, owns it until you pay it off, right?

536
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,720
So basically I was okay with those two projects not doing that.

537
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,920
Those two projects added up to $300,000.

538
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,680
They're really simple projects, good profit margins, fantastic.

539
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,920
I get a call back from the person we were dealing with and they're like, hey, you might

540
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,480
have to take on the other four contracts.

541
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,120
I said, well, one, I wanted all of them.

542
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,120
So yeah, 100%.

543
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:11,720
She's like, yeah, well, the other company that we've been working with for almost a

544
00:34:11,720 --> 00:34:16,200
year, they've been working with this specific, they got other bids, but this company was

545
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:21,800
the one they started with doing everything with, getting everything situated with.

546
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:28,660
They will not do the job without putting a lean on the property.

547
00:34:28,660 --> 00:34:30,280
And kudos to them.

548
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,280
Great.

549
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,600
Like, hey, if they got great work and stuff like that, I mean, I do too, not a big deal,

550
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,920
but I, I'm willing to take that risk.

551
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,520
There's a great relationship involved.

552
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,840
There's awesome profits involved.

553
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,880
And I'm not scared to do that.

554
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,600
Could I get screwed?

555
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:50,560
Could I do all this work and lose out on almost a million dollars worth of capital?

556
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:51,560
I could.

557
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,560
Is it going to happen?

558
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,880
I'm going to do everything my power for it not to happen.

559
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:56,880
I'm going to trust.

560
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,400
I'm going to do my part.

561
00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,760
But what if it does work?

562
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,600
One, I build this relationship.

563
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:02,920
I get all six contracts.

564
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:07,080
I make great fricking money and life's phenomenal.

565
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:08,080
Right?

566
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:13,440
Now, every situation is different, but that is the difference there is that I was willing

567
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:14,440
to take the risk.

568
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,520
I got all six contracts.

569
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,120
The other company wouldn't take the risk.

570
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,400
They lost out on half a million dollars worth of revenue.

571
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,720
Um, and to be honest, I mean, I wish I could tell you guys a profit margin, but I don't

572
00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:29,840
want to just in case people, you know, the owners are listening to stuff.

573
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,800
Um, yeah, NDA or whatever.

574
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,000
But actually one of the jobs pretty cool.

575
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,480
We have to get special clearance to go in.

576
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,920
I don't think we can take pictures of it because it's a, it's a company that builds

577
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:44,120
aircraft parts for the government for like all their, all their planes and stuff like

578
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,120
that.

579
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,120
So pretty cool project.

580
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,520
But, um, like that is an example right there.

581
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,720
Like, okay, Hey, and maybe it didn't hurt this other company not to take that risk.

582
00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:54,920
I might be there one day.

583
00:35:54,920 --> 00:36:00,840
For me, I'm the reason I got all contracts and the other two companies apart from that

584
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,800
company didn't even get offered because I was already willing to take that risk.

585
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,640
And so obviously a risk is like a gamble, right?

586
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,760
But here's the deal.

587
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:15,260
Everybody gets stuck on, well, it may not work.

588
00:36:15,260 --> 00:36:16,600
So they don't do it.

589
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,180
I get stuck on, well, it may will, it may work.

590
00:36:20,180 --> 00:36:21,180
What if it does work?

591
00:36:21,180 --> 00:36:22,600
And that's what drives me.

592
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,360
That's what makes me make those decisions.

593
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:29,280
That's what made me, made me take out $120,000 in debt when I only had one project going

594
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,280
on.

595
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:34,360
That's what made me get a credit line and, and do this and take out hard money loans

596
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,120
to pay for this and to like that.

597
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,280
That's the reason everything has come to fruition.

598
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:46,960
And so a big part of to, to start taking those risks is the other part of emotions and being

599
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,400
able to have belief and confidence in yourself that you're able to handle every situation

600
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,360
no matter what happens.

601
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,920
And if it doesn't go to plan, you're going to, you're going to get through it.

602
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,400
You're going to find a way to get through it.

603
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,800
And you're going to find a way, maybe the outcome is in what was hoped for, but you're

604
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:09,000
going to find a way to make the outcome that's happening, like take it to your advantage,

605
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,560
make it to your advantage, right?

606
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:15,200
And so if you're able to have that confidence in yourself, then these risks are really easy

607
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,200
to make.

608
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,040
They're absolutely easy to make.

609
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,840
And they, they go hand in hand.

610
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:28,520
And so guys, I mean, like the, if you guys want to be successful, if you truly want to

611
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:34,760
be something great, truly want to build something absolutely phenomenal, some of the key ingredients

612
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:41,040
is belief in yourself, control of your emotions and taking risks.

613
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:46,480
Honestly, I think those are the only two things besides my sales skills that have gotten me

614
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:47,920
to where I am today.

615
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:53,680
If you don't have sales skills like I do find somebody who can, who can, who does be good

616
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,240
at what you're good at.

617
00:37:55,240 --> 00:37:56,240
Simple as that.

618
00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:57,600
I'm not good at project management.

619
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,360
I'm really not that good.

620
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,680
I've pissed off some clients in the past.

621
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,920
I can't, I have ADHD.

622
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,320
It's hard for me to get organized.

623
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:11,840
I've used a lot of app, softwares, notepads, calendars, like I still struggle even in my

624
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,000
sphere that I now am in.

625
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,080
But now I've realized, okay, I need to not do project management.

626
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:23,040
So I hire PMs, I hire director of construction for those people that have that skill set.

627
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,040
They do it.

628
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:31,040
Me, I can, I had one of my team members compliment, I mean, or I think it was earlier this week,

629
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,800
he said, man, you could sell a ketchup popsicle to somebody.

630
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:38,240
Like, you know, I'm like, they, like, yeah, I was actually flattered.

631
00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:40,640
I was like, you know, that's my skill set.

632
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,320
That's, that's the realm I'm in, right?

633
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:47,240
So I mean, I sell almost every contract in our company and I can, I always will want

634
00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:48,720
to do that because I love the sale.

635
00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:51,120
I love the adrenaline rush, but that's it.

636
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,360
That's another, another story.

637
00:38:52,360 --> 00:39:02,360
So anyways, guys, please, from listening to this podcast, know one thing.

638
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:07,320
Negative emotions will be there in every single thing you do in life, whether it's owning

639
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:12,600
a business, working within a business or being broke, poor and not working.

640
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,720
Like it's going, it's going to be there.

641
00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:18,040
It's going to be there when you find out you're going to have your first K. It is going to

642
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,200
be there when you graduate high school.

643
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,520
It's going to be in, you know, have to figure out what you're going to do with your life.

644
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,280
It's going to be there when you're applying for schools.

645
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:30,280
It's going to be there when you're learning how to drive, when you're learning how to,

646
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:34,960
you know, play a new sport or, you know, like it's always there.

647
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,280
You just can't escape it.

648
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:42,680
I think in like the third episode of this podcast ever, which was like, I get embarrassed

649
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,720
of our first three because like the setup was terrible.

650
00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:48,560
We just wanted to start, but anyways, like they're always going to be there.

651
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,240
Learn how to control them guys.

652
00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:52,080
Start fighting back.

653
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:59,640
Stop letting the natural man, the natural woman control your life because you will not get

654
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,040
to where you want to go.

655
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,580
So this is the homework assignment podcast.

656
00:40:03,580 --> 00:40:04,920
This is what we talk about.

657
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,920
This is in essence the reason this podcast even exists.

658
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,080
This is why we started this.

659
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,080
Okay.

660
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:19,680
Kyle, Mikey and I, we needed to start something to where we could help all the people that

661
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:25,080
we saw on a daily basis get through and accomplish the things that we're able to accomplish.

662
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,520
We want to, we want you guys to succeed.

663
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:33,720
And I can assure you what we talk about works for us.

664
00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:40,200
I've seen a work for many other people and it can work for you.

665
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:41,640
You may have to tweak.

666
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:46,760
You may have to adapt it or manipulate it for the situation that pertains to you, but

667
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:47,760
it worked.

668
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,800
And like I said, lots of success.

669
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:50,880
They're always there.

670
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,920
They're never changing.

671
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,640
They're forever going to be there.

672
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:55,640
Utilize them.

673
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:56,640
Learn them.

674
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:05,160
Thanks for tuning in.

