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Hey guys, welcome back to the Homework Assignment Podcast.

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I'm your host, RJ Patino, and today we are going to discuss a very important attribute

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or perspective to have when you are trying to discover how to balance your home and work

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life.

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So that topic is finances, how to run your finances, how to manage it and be able to

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anticipate good times, bad times, all that fun stuff.

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I've been asked how I run my finances before and I used to think growing up that I was

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kind of doing it not the right way.

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I think over time I've realized that there's obviously multiple different ways that you

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can control, manage your finances and you've got to find the best way that works for you.

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I will say from a business perspective and from the game of business or the hustle, I

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do have a very strong opinion on spending money specifically.

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I know a lot of people or one of the main things that I do hear about finances and that

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I've seen a lot on social media is Dave Ramsey.

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Dave Ramsey has had a great curriculum that has worked for a lot of people.

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I know some of my clients have used Dave Ramsey's curriculum to help them gain the money and

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the savings that they need to do a remodel or buy a new home.

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I think that works in a lot of people's situations and in what I call the normal life structure

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of 9 to 5 and having a typical day to day, Monday through Friday job.

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But I think when you are running a business, scaling a business or you are creating something

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for yourself to finance your family, that doesn't really apply as much.

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It may not even apply in a normal, ordinary job, 9 to 5 job.

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I do think, well I read this book not too long ago, it was a few months back, it was called The Millionaire

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Next Door.

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This book talked a lot about how a normal average household with an average household

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income can become a millionaire.

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I remember a specific example from this was there was a teacher and a firefighter that

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they were married couple.

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The wife was a teacher, the husband was a firefighter.

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The example talked, and this was a real life example, this wasn't fiction, they were able

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to over years bring in together about $65,000 a year.

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Now this is the early 2000s, so that's a very important aspect to understand.

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I know out here in Gilbert, Arizona, the average household income is I think over $100,000

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or just below it.

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Early 2000s, this couple was bringing in $65,000 a year and by using their money right, they

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were able to become millionaires.

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So like I said, I think there's a lot of ways that, one, you can save your money, you may

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need to, depending on what your job is, depending on what your profession is, and obviously

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there's nothing wrong with that.

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You know I'm really trying to focus on business owners and really finding that balance between business

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and work life and your home life.

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So with that perspective of running a business, and again, it depends on where you're at in

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your situation, but here's the way I've always lived.

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This is before I had an actual very successful business because it does take time to make

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money, just because you're pulling in $3 million a year in revenue does not mean you're making

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money.

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You need to make sure you're making money.

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In the beginning of your business, those are the hard years.

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Really it's going to take three to five years to actually be able to finally turn a profit

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in a business.

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So it does take time, but the way I've always lived my life is I've never worried about

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spending money.

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Okay, I think there's two things to really consider here.

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Number one, I've talked about this before, the broke mindset.

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Always bringing yourself down to zero, even when you have something, even if you have

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a million dollars in the bank, wake up the next morning, look at your bank account, see

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those six figures, get it out of your mind, act as if you have $0.

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And what that's going to do for you is that's going to keep a flame lit under you 24-7 all

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day long to go and get your money, go and get what's yours to hustle.

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And that's the number one aspect or trait in my opinion that we need to have when we're

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thinking about finances.

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And number two is understanding that money makes the world go round.

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You need to spend money.

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Now don't be stupid.

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Okay, you obviously we all have bills to pay, we all have responsibilities, but understand

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that you do have to spend money.

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Do not be scared to spend money.

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Don't be scared to invest.

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Don't be scared to just buy things that you may need for your personal life or your business

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or whatever the case is.

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Because when you spend money, that is good for the economy.

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You go to buy another dump trailer, you pay 10 grand for a dump trailer.

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That guy makes his profit.

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And if that guy knows how to spend money, he's going to spend his money and that's going

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to go to somebody else and it just it makes the world go round.

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So spending money is very important.

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When you get too many people hoarding their money, so you get a whole city that is on

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this Dave Ramsey thing and they're just saving every dollar they can.

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They're sacrificing going out to eat.

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Okay, say I think in Gilbert, I don't know fully, but let's say there's 100,000 people

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in the city of Gilbert.

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If everybody hops on the Dave Ramsey train and they're all saving going out to eat, to

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eliminate it, to maybe once every two weeks or let's say a couple of times a month, what's

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going to happen?

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There are a lot of restaurants that are going to go out of business.

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And when they go out of business, what happens?

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They don't have money.

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And when they don't have money, they don't go spend money.

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And it ends up coming right back around to you and the way you make your money.

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So understanding that spending money is not a bad thing.

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Understanding that, yes, have a savings.

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Okay, save up.

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Great.

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That's what you want to do.

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Fantastic.

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Even if you run a business, but understand that you need to spend money.

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Share your money.

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Hire companies.

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Support small businesses.

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Spread your money so that it comes back because if you hoard it and you hold on to it, it's

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not going to come back.

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And that is a very important aspect to understand.

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And I'm not, I don't know a lot about economics, the statistics or anything like that.

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I'm not really into any of that, but I do understand how money works.

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And I do understand that cashflow is very important for an economy because I know it's

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important for my business.

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That is the number one thing that takes priority 98% of the time on a day to day basis is making

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sure that I have cashflow.

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Okay.

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Because if I don't have cashflow, what happens?

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I can't pay people.

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All right.

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So understanding that money makes the world go around.

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It's a circle of life and Benjamin, he's all up in there.

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So if you are trying to save money, like I said, that is great.

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But going back to my experience, I really have kind of always sucked at saving.

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I've always spent money.

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And I think for me personally, and again, this is an opinion when I'm spending money,

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I know I got to make more money.

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Right?

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So if I, my wife's fantastic.

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First and foremost, I want to make that very clear.

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She was with me when I was making $3,000 a month and had a beat up truck till now.

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And so she she's never been very high maintenance from the day that I met her.

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I think that I may have turned her into a little bit of high maintenance, but that would

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be more of my my issue more than hers.

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But I know for a fact that she being with me from the beginning, she knows how to live

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without money or with no money.

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And now she knows how to live with money.

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And the one thing I like about our relationship is that I know my wife is, you know, she's

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going to spend money and in turn, I know because she's spending money, I need to go get money.

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Okay, it's it's and again, this is an opinion.

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Okay.

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This doesn't may not work for many people, but for me, this is just this is my experience

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is what this is what drives me.

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Okay.

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If I know my wife's getting eight packages from Amazon a day, what do you think I'm doing?

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I'm not sitting on the couch moping, yelling at her not to spend money.

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That's one way to go about it.

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No, in turn, I'm going to work.

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I'm like, okay, I need to go land six more contracts because my wife is about to go order

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a freaking thousand dollars worth of baby clothes that we don't need that my daughters

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are going to grow out of in a matter of a week.

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So and I of course, there's limits that I you know, we've had great conversations about,

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you know, our finances and where we need to be.

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And you know, my wife's not out there blowing $4,000 on Louis bags every single week.

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Okay, so that's not my point here.

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My point is that allowing a little bit of freedom in your finances can have some benefits.

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Number one, just like we talked about the circle of life, the economy, what you give

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comes back around.

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And number two, it keeps you aware that you constantly need to be bringing money in.

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Okay, so finances can be tricky.

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And I think number one, if you are in a relationship, you have a spouse, you I mean, having that

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communication is super important.

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If you guys are not on the same page, you guys are going to have problems.

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If you are stressed at work, and you know, going back, for example, to the times I mean,

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my wife have talked about finances.

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There are low points in business, you know, nothing stays great and smooth 24 seven.

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That's just not reality.

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If you are expecting that going into building a business or scaling your business, you are

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being fooled.

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That is not going to happen.

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And I'm gonna go on a tangent there in a minute on that.

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So I'm gonna put that over here.

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But if you can understand how to have freedom with your money, you will be able to create

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a better life for yourself.

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And again, I'm speaking on experience, and I believe if it works for me, it can definitely

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work for other people.

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And going on to this tangent about, you know, high and lows, there's a lot of people and

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I was I was a little bit subject to this.

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I had a little bit of understanding from a mentor of mine of how it works.

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But you really don't understand anything until you experience it, right?

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You can learn it all day long.

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You can hear about it all day long.

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But until you actually get some experience with what that is, you don't fully learn it

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and understand it 100 percent.

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So when you when you're building a business, a lot of people, they may have a great business

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idea.

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You know what?

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Okay, we're going to take 20 grand.

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We're going to put it into this pizzeria and we're going to just make a bunch of pizzas

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and we're going to get customers and have them come in and you know, our profit and

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we need this much revenue.

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We're going to profit this much.

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Everything sounds great and dandy.

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And you guys, your plan is guaranteed on, you know, 10 people a day buying an extra

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large pizza and you guys will hit your profit margin.

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Okay, you could have the most solid plan in the world.

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But if you are not accounting for the low points, if you are not accounting for the

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unpredictable life and world we live in, you are going to fail immediately.

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Okay, nothing goes as planned.

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I don't care how bulletproof your plan is.

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I don't care how bulletproof your finances are.

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You need to expect the unexpected and it's hard to do that because it's going to be unexpected.

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You don't know when it's going to hit.

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You don't know how it's going to hit.

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You don't know what's going to happen and you need or you're going to have to be ready

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to deal with it and find a solution to limit your, you know, your profit believe or limit

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your losses.

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And so I've seen a few people have amazing ideas and they get started super strong and

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some of them even get lucky and have a great couple years.

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But what happens?

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Okay, these unexpected events come into play and they go right under and they go quick.

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Let's take COVID-19 for example, okay, when we were signing contracts pre COVID, I had

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a lot of contracts going on, a lot of money out there and COVID-19 hit and a lot of businesses

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shut down.

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That stopped a lot of the cash flow going on for a little bit period of time.

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I don't know if Arizona got hit as hard on some other places.

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We kind of went through a construction boom in my, you know, in our industry.

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So I don't know how bad it really got out there, but I know in Arizona, it did affect

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that cashflow a little bit.

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And that was an unexpected precedent or event that happened.

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And I remember trying to, you know, hey, I was prepared for something that was a little,

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I mean, that was different.

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I feel like I was prepared for some normal scenarios in my head, things that like, you

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know, have been common enough that I need to be prepared for it, whether it's ultra

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tragic or not as bad.

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COVID-19 was just an absolute, I mean, game changer.

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And on top of that, during this boom, so many places shut down.

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So one of the main things that happened in construction is the price of materials shot

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through the roof.

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In Plywood, for example, 17 or 20, $25, you know, it always ranged a little bit per sheet

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and they shot up to 75, $80 at one point.

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I even think it got higher than that.

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So what happened with our contracts?

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Well, I signed an addition or a new build, whatever it is before COVID-19 and we're building

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and all of a sudden COVID-19 hits and what happens?

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Well, all my prices of materials shoot up.

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So there was only a few options, stop production and wait, charge the client more money or

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me build with what I have and lose money.

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And I got to deal with each and every one of those scenarios and I got dealt by each

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of one of those scenarios.

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So number one, stop production.

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We had to breach or terminate our contract because the client couldn't afford it and

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it was just outrageous and it wasn't, you know, I couldn't afford it to be able to pay

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for those materials.

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Number two was, you know, the client was like, hey, you know what?

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Okay, we'll pay for it.

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And this client was absolutely fantastic in that.

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And I think they were very prepared for what actually had happened.

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And number three was, hey, there was a couple of jobs where, you know what, it wasn't as

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bad.

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I did lose some money, but I was able to keep the relationship.

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I was able to keep that job going.

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And so I was able to experience all three of those situations and I was able to find

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solutions, but either way it still sucked.

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I lost a lot of money during that time.

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And if I was constantly having this business formula of where everything was based on all

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things going to plan, I can promise you, I would have went so far under it would have

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been absolutely traumatizing.

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But because I was prepared for inevitable event or unexpected events, I was ready for

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the unknown as ready as I thought I could be.

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I was able to limit my losses.

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I was able to deal with this situation and each of those cases and be able to find the

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solutions for it and come out winning or come out with that lease, being able to go forward

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without having to go backwards.

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And so when we're building businesses and we're talking finances, okay, we have to be

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prepared for the unknown.

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We have to be prepared for the unexpected.

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And I think that goes into the same thing in your home life.

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Even though I try to have that mindset to spend money and not worry about money knowing

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that it's going to come back to me, I do still have to be prepared and make sure my family

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is taken care of.

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And so I do have a plan.

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I do have finances set aside, but at the same time, I'm just not very, like I said, I'm

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not strict on it.

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I'm very free with it.

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I kind of just, we just do what we want.

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We go with what we want.

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And that is not to say do not know your finances.

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That's another great, you know, tangent to go on with this topic is that if you do not

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know your finances, you're already on the road to failure.

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You have to know your finances.

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You can be, like I said, you could be pulling in 3 million a year, but if you're making

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0%, all that money just looks good for a fraction of the time.

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That's it.

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You have to know where your numbers are.

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If you're pulling in 3 million dollars in revenue, okay, gross, what is your profit?

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What is your overhead?

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What are the, you know, the unsolicited charity in a business that's super important for those

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of you who don't know what unsolicited charity is in construction, it's easy to point out.

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It's, oh, you know, we're doing a job.

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Oh, hey, can you add an extra light fixture over here?

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Run a cable and add a fan right there?

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Oh yeah, no problem, Sam.

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I'll do that.

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It cost me $450 for material and labor and overhead and insure, but yeah, I'll go ahead

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and do that.

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No problem.

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Those little things add up and guess what?

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End of the project, I'm giving away 6, 7, 10 thousand dollars without even knowing it.

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10, you know, whatever, 5, 3% of, you know, the total contracts gone in unsolicited charity.

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It's easy to give those little things away.

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So you have to be very cautious.

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You have to be cautious with, you know, your unsolicited charity.

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You have to know your numbers.

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Okay?

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Know what you're pulling in, know what you're giving out, know what's going out.

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And it's hard.

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And if you are scaling a business right now and if you're growing faster than you can

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run like I experienced, it makes it even tougher.

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Okay?

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Because when you're, you know, for me and my company, we had this outrageous boom because

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we, you know, we put systems in place.

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We had great quality and we made great relationships.

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We did great work and that led to great referrals, quick referrals, which are easy sales because

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someone already trusts somebody and they're saying to use you.

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And so, you know, our schedule just loaded up and deposits were coming in left and right.

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And so it's hard to really care about numbers when you start seeing all, you know, all this

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kind of money that you're not used to into your account.

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And so, you know, there, I'm not gonna lie, there was a time where I didn't know my numbers

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and when I finally did taxes, guess what?

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I found out what my numbers were and I'm like sitting here.

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Wow.

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We only made this much money.

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You're telling me I pulled in millions of dollars and I made less than 5%.

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I mean, that is a little bit heartbreaking because it's not just the jobs.

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I mean, it's all the time, all the stress, all the blood, the sweat, the, you know, the,

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the lows that you go through.

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And then you look back and you're like, how much more of that money could I have made?

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I can tell you I lost hundreds of thousands of dollars just for not knowing my numbers,

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for not job costing.

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Okay.

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How much did this job actually cost me?

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If I am anticipating 30% of, you know, revenue, 40% revenue, did I make that?

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Was I less?

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Okay.

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You know, were my guys at Home Depot for 18 hours that week when they should have literally

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been there for three?

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Are they taking longer?

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You know, there's so many profit bleeds.

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And again, I'm talking about construction and construction.

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There's so many profit bleeds and it's very hard.

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And I think, I think every company has profit bleeds, but I do believe construction has

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as a GC, we have more profit bleeds than I, than I think we can really count.

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And so it's even more important for me to know my numbers, know where we're at.

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And I am nowhere near perfect on this.

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I guarantee I'm still losing money right now as I'm sitting here due to profit bleeds.

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But you have to start somewhere.

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You have to start knocking them out.

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You got to start identifying them and you'll be able to obviously solutionize them, right?

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And make the system better.

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There's always going to be profit bleeds.

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There's always going to be someone who wastes a piece of my material, throws away a roll

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on accident or breaks a window trying to transport.

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I mean, there's always going to be that, but you have to anticipate it, right?

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So understanding your numbers and your finances is a huge part to everything.

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And I wish I were learning that early on in my business because I didn't have a bookkeeper.

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You know, I was doing all my invoicing.

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I was doing all my projected, you know, costs and revenue and profits and all that.

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And I had no idea what I was doing.

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So go hire you guys.

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Go hire somebody if you don't know what you're doing.

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Hire somebody who does know it's going to save you a lot of money.

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It took me a while to figure out, OK, I'm going to hire a bookkeeper for two or three

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thousand dollars a month or whatever the case is.

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And you know, realize it's actually going to save you money.

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It really it really is because you're losing that somewhere.

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So, again, knowing, knowing your numbers and knowing your finances and where you guys stand

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and making sure that you're not making dumb decisions with your money and reinvesting

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into yourself and spreading that money out, go to places, go to other businesses, support

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local businesses nearby.

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They're going to go around and support local businesses.

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And that, like I said, that money just comes back around.

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It's like karma.

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What you put out comes right back at you.

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So I think, yeah, I think for finances, I mean, it's it's very it's a very sensitive

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subject and I know you guys have to find the best way that works for you.

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And I guarantee there are very, you know, all these other successful people that I know

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out here, you know, they may do it differently.

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But for me, that's what works, guys.

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I have freedom with my money.

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I know my numbers and I'm able to understand that money is what makes the world go round.

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So don't be don't be greedy.

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Dave Ramsey.

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Hey, you don't work for me.

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You may work for other people, but not for me, because the more you teach people to hoard

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money, the less money goes out into the world.

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So that, yeah, all in all, finances, guys, are super important and I think, you know,

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cash flow and your your business specifically has to be a top priority because again, if

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you do not have if you don't have money to pay people, you're not in good shape whatsoever.

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I mean, you're you're on the path to to fall it apart.

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You need to have a good amount of cash flow and you need to be able to control that cash

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flow.

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That is very important.

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So all in all, guys, homework assignment for this podcast today is figuring out if you

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actually know your numbers.

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Go home, go to the office.

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Do you know your numbers?

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What are you pulling in?

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What are your overhead costs?

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Are you accounting for your your rent space?

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Are you counting for your Wi-Fi bill?

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That's one hundred dollars.

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But guess what?

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You better know where that's coming from.

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You better know what account leaves out of and you better know how much it is to the

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dime.

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Are you tracking your expenses on food?

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Are you tracking your mileage and your expenses on gas?

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Again, as we go through everything, it sounds very overwhelming.

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Hire somebody who knows how to track this.

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Job cost, product cost.

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Track everything you possibly can and you will realize that you're losing money in places

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you never thought you were losing money.

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And when you find that, guess what?

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You get all that money back.

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Then you guys can go out there and you can go spend more money.

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Come hire me for a remodel project in your bathroom.

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I'll take those funds.

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I'll live off them.

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I'll spend it.

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And then that customer is probably going to come right back and buy from you again.

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This is the way the world works.

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OK, this is a homework assignment, guys.

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