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My name is Cindy Burleson and I'm chairman of the International Sibling Society.

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It's a privilege to welcome you to SDGs Explained, the podcast where we explore the 17 global

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When this season of SDGs Explained, we're exploring the incredible projects currently

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underway under the Mandela Washington Fellowship recipients across the African continent.

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I'm your host, Cindy Berlison, chairman of the International Sibling Society.

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Today we sit in the studio of the Innovation Center in Reno, Nevada.

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Our guest comes all the way from Zambia.

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Please welcome Lazarus Suelula, a passionate change maker, award winning entrepreneur,

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and advocate for sustainable development.

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Lazarus it's a pleasure to sit across from you in the studio and have you on the show.

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Thank you.

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Let's just dive right on into it, Lazarus.

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To start with, can you tell us about your project and how it aligns with the United

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Nations Sustainable Development Goals?

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Thank you once more, Cindy, and I'm thrilled to be here and also to share my experience

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about my work in Zambia.

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My project is called Virgin Green Renewable Energy Limited and we are located in Zambia.

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We are championing SDG number 7, SDG number 3, SDG number 17, and also SDG number 13.

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Fantastic.

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Wonderful.

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What is your project focus on improving?

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My project focuses on improving lives, those that depend on using firewood and charcoal

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and also inefficient cook stoves that uses dirty fuels.

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So at Virgin Green, what we are doing, we are trying to recycle waste materials into

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clean cooking solid fuels by recycling biomass wastes into charcoal briquettes.

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At Virgin Green, we also produce energy-saving cook stoves that uses less fuels and reduces

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carbon emission.

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And this product we sell to our low-income families that uses dirty fuels and also inefficient

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cook stoves so that we can be able to reduce the levels of deforestation.

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Well, Lazarus, tell us a little bit about how these families cook and prepare their

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food.

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Thank you.

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So in Zambia, generally about 90%, I would say, they use wood fuel.

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The forest?

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Yes.

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So these are fuels that comes from the forest.

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They go in the forest, they cut trees, and then they come back and use that wood.

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This could be a problem.

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Very much.

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What's happening to the forest?

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So the situation is like currently we are losing about 250,000 to 300,000 hectares of

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trees every year, of which 90% of these trees goes to energy.

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Because like I said, area on, 90% uses wood fuel like charcoal and firewood.

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Because most of them, they are living between $2 to $3 a day and they cannot afford to cook

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using other forms of energies like electricity and LPG gas.

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So most of them, the only affordable fuel that they use is by degrading the forest and

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then use the firewood that they fetch from the nearby forest.

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So the product that Virgin Green Renewable Energy Limited is creating is helping to solve

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this problem in the forest.

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What is your product made of?

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So like I said before, we recycle waste materials.

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So these materials that we recycle, we rely on biomass fuel.

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So let me just explain a bit about what biomass is.

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So biomass, this is a biodegradable material that is able to decompose.

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So what we don't use in producing the solid fuel that we produce, we don't use polyplastics,

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but we rely on biomass materials like agricultural waste, municipality waste, all those things

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we are able to collect and then we recycle them into a product that we call charcoal

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briquettes.

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Charcoal briquettes.

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Yes.

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Wonderful.

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I know that on some different videos that I've seen of fishing on some of the large

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bodies of water that we've talked about that are in your country, and they will be people

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on boats cooking their fish with live fire or what have you on the boats, which culturally

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speaking it's a beautiful picture, but I can see how cooking food with open flame is

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a cultural tradition there and that your product is offering a new way to solve this problem

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of harming the forest through burning it with this cultural rite of cooking with the trees.

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So basically that's very true.

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Well you know, speaking of the country, Zambia, what can you tell us more about the people

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in your country, in your country itself?

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Should we visit?

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Yes, you can visit.

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Zambia is a friendly country and it's also, in Zambia we have got one of the seven national

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wonders of the world, which is our Victoria Force.

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So it's a beautiful place to tour.

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So whenever you are ready and everyone listening to us, if you want to visit us, we are located

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in the southern part of Africa.

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We are neighboring with Zimbabwe, Namibia, Malawi, Tanzania, Democratic Republic of Congo.

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So you are welcome.

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Fantastic.

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Well, I'm glad that you are actively involved in achieving several of the sustainable development

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goals through your efforts in Zambia.

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Let's take a closer look at those specific SDGs that you mentioned.

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You mentioned that your project is working to achieve sustainable development goal number

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7, which is affordable and clean energy.

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Renewable development goal 7 involves ensuring access to affordable, reliable, sustainable,

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and modern energy for all.

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As someone involved in renewable energy, it seems like you are contributing to this goal

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by advocating for and implementing clean energy solutions in your society and enterprise.

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This helps reduce reliance on fossil fuels and mitigates the adverse effects of climate

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change.

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When speaking of climate change, you are working to address sustainable development goal number

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13, which specifically deals with climate change.

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SDG 13 focuses on taking urgent action to combat climate change and its impacts.

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Given your interest in renewable energy and energy efficiency, it's clear that you are

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actively contributing to this goal.

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By providing or promoting clean energy alternatives, you are helping to reduce greenhouse emissions

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and support sustainable development practices.

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You also mentioned that you are working with sustainable development goal number 17, which

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is one of my favorites, which is partnerships for the goals.

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We at the International Sibling Society are glad to be working with you in Zambia in partnership

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for the goals for sure.

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The 17th goal emphasizes the importance of global partnerships and collaborations to

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achieve all the sustainable development goals.

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As an advocate for renewable energy and energy efficiency, you likely understand the significance

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of partnerships and alliances in driving sustainable development.

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By working with others and engaging in initiatives that foster collaborations, you can contribute

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to this goal and you are doing that.

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And then you also mentioned sustainable development goal number 3, which is good health and well-being.

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Sustainable development goal 3 focuses on ensuring healthy lives and promoting well-being

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for all at all ages.

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While you didn't provide specific details, it's possible that your work in renewable

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energy and energy efficiency directly supports this goal.

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By promoting clean energy sources, you contribute to improving air quality, which positively

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impacts people's health.

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And then of course there is sustainable development goal number 2, zero hunger.

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Zero hunger aims to end hunger, achieve food security, improve nutrition, and promote sustainable

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agriculture.

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Although not directly related to renewable energy and energy efficiency, it's commendable

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that you are championing this goal alongside others.

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Addressing issues of hunger and promoting sustainable agriculture can have a significant

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impact on the overall well-being of communities.

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Your efforts in championing these SDGs demonstrate a comprehensive approach to sustainability,

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covering energy, climate action, health, nutrition, and partnership building.

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By focusing on these goals, you are making a positive impact in your society in Zambia

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and contributing to the global sustainability agenda for all of us, all around the planet.

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So as you work on each of these goals in Zambia, you move us closer to achieving the sustainable

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development goals.

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We are all in this together, regardless of what country we are in.

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So I just encourage you to keep up this good work, Lazowit.

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Thank you.

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Well, how did you come up with this idea for this project and what motivated you to pursue

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it in the first place?

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Thank you for that question.

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So the whole idea came out of a tragedy.

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I lost my grandmother in 2019 just after graduating from uni.

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And I was struck when we were being told at the hospital that the reason why your grandmother

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passed away was because of smoke, because I direct asked the doctor to know that what

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really happened.

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So they had to find the traces of smoke into her chest and lungs.

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And so when the doctor told me that the reason as to why your grandmother died was because

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of smoke, I was surprised because my grandmother never smoked cigarettes at all.

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So I got curious and I started researching to know the reason why.

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And the numbers that I found on the internet, the numbers that the World Health Organization

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had to put up in place, can you imagine, Cindy, that in developing countries about four million

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people die every year because of using dirty fuels like charcoal and firewood.

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These are records from the World Health Organization and Clean Cooking Alliance.

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And it was through my research that I also discovered that Zambia is placed on number

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one in Africa in terms of deforestation.

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Like I mentioned area on that our country is currently losing between 250,000 to 300,000

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hectares of trees every year.

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That is with a population of less than 20 million.

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So I started thinking within myself to say this is not acceptable because those numbers

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I was overwhelmed with them.

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So I started thinking around how can I be able to contribute to this.

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But I never wanted to and I also graduated at a time when Zambia had unemployment rate

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above 15 percent, we were ranked in the top 10.

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I was searching job everywhere but I couldn't find job.

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So I got tired and I wanted to sustain myself.

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So I started developing interest in business but I didn't want to just create a business

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that would just benefit myself.

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I thought of creating a business that will also impact the community.

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And yeah, that is how Veggie and Green came about.

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That is definitely inspiring, Lazarus.

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What could you walk us through the process of implementing your project?

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What steps have you taken to ensure it's successful?

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So we started in 2020, late 2020 in October.

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I had to use the funds that I had to make the machine, the health machine that we are

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using.

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So from there I was able to, because I didn't have formal trainings and none of, no one

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was doing it in Zambia.

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So what I did was coming up with machines that would be able to produce the briquettes

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that we are producing.

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And so it was tough but along the way we had to manage on how to produce the machine because

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we didn't have enough funds to purchase the machines from overseas like China.

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So when we started in late 2020, I just had to organize two guys who came to help me.

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And then we started Detainway.

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We started making the charcoal that we make.

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The product was bad because we didn't have formal trainings.

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So we continued, we relied on researching on how can we be able to improve the product

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so that we make sure that what we want to do is okay.

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So when we started producing the charcoal briquettes that we produce, we realized that

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when someone comes to buy our product, they were not coming back, especially when they

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buy our charcoal briquettes, they were not coming back.

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And so it got into me, I started thinking to say, but why are they not coming back?

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And so it was from there that we had to conduct a market research.

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And we discovered that the cook stoves that were on the Zambian market weren't compatible

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with the charcoal briquettes that we were producing.

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So it was during that time when we also discovered that the reason as to why Zambia is ranked

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number one in Africa and five globally is because an average family in Zambia with the

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cook stoves that were on the Zambian market is able to consume one ton of wood fuel per

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year.

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And this is unacceptable.

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So we had to design our own stove that will reduce the consumption of fuel by 50%.

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And also make sure that the cook stoves that we designed was also compatible with our charcoal

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briquettes.

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And so after we designed the stove, we took it to the market.

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That was the beginning of our story because now we had customers who were able to come

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back, they would purchase our charcoal briquettes together with the cook stoves.

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This was the beginning of everything.

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Fantastic.

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That is a lot of steps.

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Market research there and then some innovation to create your own stoves that's compatible

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with your product.

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I'm just curious, can you put those stoves on a boat?

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Yes, I can.

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Cool, cool.

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That's wonderful.

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Well, I tell you what, can you share some of the specific activities or initiatives

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that your project undertakes to achieve its goals?

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Okay, so in alignment with the goals, what we're doing is so when I started the business,

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I had to think of a business model because I didn't want to create a business which is

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completely for profit.

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But I wanted to create a business which will also benefit the community.

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So that I should be able to have some minimal impact.

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So I started a social enterprise and not just a completely for profit business.

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So we had to design a business model where we had to incorporate the community.

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So let me just take you through on how we produce our products and also how we sell

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our product.

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So we are working with local people who supply us with raw materials.

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Like currently, we have about nine permanent employees and 110 part-time employees.

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So these 100 part-time employees, these are people who supply us with the raw materials

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that we use in the production of charcoal briquettes.

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They bring all kinds of wastes.

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So what we normally do is we train them the kind of waste that we need from them.

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And once we train them, we provide them with the kins that they will use when they are

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collecting those wastes.

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And then they will put them in those wastes and then we go and collect them.

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So from...

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Now just to clarify, the wastes is what now?

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The biomass wastes.

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I got you.

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That's the, okay, the biomass wastes.

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I'm with you.

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Okay, in the containers.

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Yes.

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I understand.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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So these, there are 110 and these are people who are not employee, who are not employed.

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So we go...

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When we started, we were recruiting, of course, but when they saw that we are now...

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When the community saw what we were doing, some of them started coming to us.

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Oh, I want to work with you.

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I want to work with you.

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I love what you're doing.

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So now people started coming like that and...

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But we couldn't take everyone because the capacity that we have couldn't allow us to

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do that.

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So at the moment, currently, we have 110 part-time employees that supply us with the raw materials

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that we use.

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And these are people, when they bring those biomass wastes, they can be able to...

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They can be able to earn a living out of it because we buy from them.

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And then from there, after the production of the product that we produce, we do not

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sell by ourselves.

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Of course, we sell some at the factory, but we are using a very unique business model

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where we sell through a team of local women who own roadside kiosks across the slums and

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also townships.

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So currently, we have a workforce of 65 women who are selling our product.

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And these are women who may be just selling vegetables across the roadside.

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I know you might be curious.

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In Zambia and in most developing countries, there are people who sell across the corridors.

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They just have got...

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They sell vegetables, tomatoes.

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So these are the people that we follow.

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And then when we follow them, we go to them, and then from there, we train them also.

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Then they'll be selling our charcoal briquettes together with the cookstalls.

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And then from there, they'll be able to generate a commission.

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And so when we are conducting a selling analysis, last...

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The close of our 2022, we discovered that a person who is constantly selling our product

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is able to generate not less than $1,000 a year.

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And also, our users who are using our product, they are able to save about $200.

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And so this is not just a business, just completely for profit, but it's a social enterprise.

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Absolutely.

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And right there, you have described social enterprise.

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Not a nonprofit, not a for-profit effort.

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It's a profit that involves a community.

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Community change.

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Okay.

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So maybe I can explain a bit on a social enterprise.

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So a social enterprise is a business that is not completely for profit, but it is also

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creating an impact.

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An impact could be creation of employment, economic impact.

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It can be social impact.

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It can be environmental impact.

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Yeah, that's a business plus an impact equal to a social enterprise.

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Excellent.

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And so many people around the world are discovering the sustainable development goals provide a

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business opportunity.

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So in this business opportunity of working towards the sustainable development goals,

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you actually are bringing about a global change at the same time.

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So I do appreciate you talking with us specifically about social enterprise and the benefits it

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has for those in business and the community.

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Thank you.

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Well, I tell you what, can you share any success stories or memorable moments from your project?

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Thank you.

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So the success of my story about my business has, when we started, like I said, area on

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when we started in 2020, we were operating at a smaller scale and it was difficult.

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2021 was very difficult for us, but a breakthrough came in 2022 when we were being supported.

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I was the winner of the Dr. NH Prize.

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And so this was the beginning of everything.

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It's changed.

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The prize changed the aspect of my business entirely because we received a grant of over

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$7,000 and we were able now to purchase the machine from China and other prizes followed.

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But I would say my memorable moments was the first prize I received from Dr. NH Prize because

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it helped me now to solidify my business.

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And then the success stories has always been about the impact you had me area on.

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Currently, I have a workforce of permanent employees.

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That's about 11 of them, including myself.

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And we also have what a part-time employees.

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These are suppliers of raw materials, the 110 and also the 65 women who are selling

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our product.

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And since inception, we have managed to produce about 300 tons of charcoal briquettes and

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5,000 cook stoves.

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This has allowed us in terms of environmental impact, it has allowed us to save over 20,000

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adult trees that could have been cut down due to charcoal and firewood.

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And through our product, we are also saving women and children from indoor air pollution

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because they are using a smokeless fuel that do not emit any kind of smoke.

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So they will have a different reality than what your grandmother faced.

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Yes.

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That's inspiring indeed.

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Well looking ahead to future plans, what do you see for future plans and aspirations for

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your project?

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So looking ahead, we have a plan.

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We currently, the numbers that we are currently making, those are not the numbers because

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we are still very small.

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You can imagine in Zambia we have 10 provinces, but we are currently just servicing three

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provinces.

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So looking ahead, we are looking at maybe in the next five years, we should be able

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to be across the entire Zambia and also probably break in the neighboring countries like Malawi

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and Zimbabwe because most of them, the situation is the same just like in my country in terms

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of deforestation.

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All right.

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Now some of this might be some of the things that you've already said before, but I want

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to hear it from you.

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What again are those positive impacts that your project has had on your community?

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So like I said earlier on, the positive impact is on the environment because what we are

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doing now is we are saving the environment like I said earlier on, like from the time

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up to now, we have managed to save about 20,000 adult trees.

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Now you can imagine if we upscale because our long-term target is to make sure that

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every year we are able to save, every year we should be able to be saving 100,000 adult

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trees, those that could have been cut down due to charcoal and firewood.

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And also the creation of employment.

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Currently in my city where I come from, it's a whole different story.

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I've managed to create a living for others, but that is on a smaller space.

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We are looking at doing more so that we can be able to create more opportunities for the

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community where I'm coming from.

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That's incredible, Lazarus.

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Moving towards the end of our time together here today, do you have any key advice or

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key learnings you'd like to share with our listeners who might be interested in undertaking

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a similar project in their part of the world?

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Thank you so much.

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One thing that I would say is we are best in different parts of the world.

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And where I'm coming from, one of the pressing challenges that we have is unemployment, climate

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change, and also we have different issues, I would say.

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But you need to find something that really attaches to you.

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And you need to come up with a solution on how you want to do it.

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The one thing that I would say is identify a challenge.

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We've got different problems in different parts of the world.

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And then be able to be passionate about it.

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And then I know it's not going to be easy.

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It's not going to be simple.

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It will be tough.

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But as long as you stick to what you're doing, the world is able to, the world is watching

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you as long as you're doing the right thing.

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And you will be able to break through and do what is right in whatever you want to do.

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Well that is excellent advice, Lazarus.

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Before we go, is there anything else at all that you'd like to add to what we're conveying

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here today with our listeners?

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So like, yeah, what I would say is thank you so much for hosting me here.

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And also to hear my views about the sustainable development goals and how our work is contributing

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to SDGs.

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But one thing that I'm worried is because time is moving, these goals have to be met

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before the year 2030.

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So we can only do this if we come together.

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We can only meet, we can only achieve the SDGs if we come together as a universe.

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Because time is moving and every day it's counting.

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Yes.

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Well said.

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Well said for sure.

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Well we want to know how to reach you.

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How can we find you?

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How can we contact you?

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So firstly, you can reach us through our email address at Virgin Green Renewable Energy Limited.

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That should just be ltd at gmail.com or in small letters.

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You can also reach us, we have a website, virgingreenenergy.com.

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Virgin Green Energy.

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It's www.virgingreenenergy.com.

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Virgingreenenergy.com?

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Yes.

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Okay, www.virgingreenenergy.com.

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It's www.virgingreenenergy.com.

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Well, Lazarus, I want to thank you for sharing your incredible project with us today.

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It's been an honor to highlight your work and the impact you're making in Zambia.

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We wish you all the success in your future endeavors.

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And to our listeners, thank you for tuning in to the International Sippling Society's

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Tune in next time for more inspiring stories and projects aligned with the Sustainable

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Remember together, as Lazarus said, we can make a difference.

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Lazarus, it's been an absolute pleasure having you on the show today and learning about your

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impactful work within Zimbabwe, or Zambia.

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Thank you for joining us.

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Thank you.

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