1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,000 Hey, MoundVisit listeners, this is Gabe coming at you. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:08,460 Now in the edit, this is future Gabe, and I just wanted to put a little disclaimer here. 3 00:00:08,460 --> 00:00:14,480 This episode was recorded before Anthony Santander decided to sign his five-year, $92.5 million 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,900 dollar contract with the Toronto Blue Jays. 5 00:00:16,900 --> 00:00:18,960 We do not go over that in this episode. 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,280 This is exclusively about Roki Sasaki and Tanner Scott. 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,820 We do touch on the Blue Jays towards the end, but we'll give you a more detailed outlook 8 00:00:25,820 --> 00:00:29,460 on the Blue Jays and this signing with Anthony Santander. 9 00:00:29,460 --> 00:00:33,660 In our next recap episode, but I just wanted to give everybody a heads up before you dive 10 00:00:33,660 --> 00:00:37,880 into it and you're like, what the heck, Gabe, you're an Orioles fan and one of your prized 11 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,720 free agents just leaves for a rival. 12 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,120 Why don't you even talk about it? 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,360 It's because we recorded this before that happened. 14 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:44,640 So we're going to get to that. 15 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:50,240 Appreciate you guys tuning into the show and welcome to another episode of MoundVisit. 16 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:51,800 Thank you. 17 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:58,440 Well, another day, another free agent goes to the Dodgers and this time it's two of them. 18 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:04,000 Roki Sasaki signs with the Los Angeles Dodgers as of just a couple of days ago as an international 19 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,000 free agent. 20 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,660 And then this morning, Tanner Scott signs with the Los Angeles Dodgers. 21 00:01:08,660 --> 00:01:13,020 They now are in the top threshold of the competitive balance tax. 22 00:01:13,020 --> 00:01:15,800 The Yankees are the only team above 300 million with them. 23 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:23,200 The Dodgers currently sit at 375 and there's a lot to get into with this. 24 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,020 I mean, the debate around baseball has been, is this good? 25 00:01:26,020 --> 00:01:28,260 Is it bad? 26 00:01:28,260 --> 00:01:30,040 What are the Blue Jays doing? 27 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,760 So we got a good amount to talk about here on a Sunday. 28 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,400 You guys are of course listening to this on a Monday. 29 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:41,240 But Kenji, let me ask you first and foremost, what do you think about Roki going to the 30 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,940 Dodgers? 31 00:01:43,940 --> 00:01:48,360 I guess it was as simple as we thought that he just wants to play for the Dodgers. 32 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:54,640 And I'm curious to see why it kind of delayed this long. 33 00:01:54,640 --> 00:02:00,360 Like I feel it seems like if he was really going to go to Dodgers or Toronto, it was 34 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,520 a pretty obvious choice from the beginning. 35 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:08,440 I mean, I've heard people say that, you know, maybe they like under the table gave him an 36 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:14,040 offer that's a crazy amount of money because technically you can sign it right now to a 37 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:22,000 longer extension, which is technically illegal if they brought up any future contracts before 38 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,840 they even signed him. 39 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,160 But I don't know, I mean, he fits in great. 40 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:32,960 And I don't, I think this kind of gets forgotten is like how great of a staff the Dodgers have. 41 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,960 Oh, I don't think it's forgotten. 42 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:36,960 I don't know. 43 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,080 Like people just talk about the players, but like the coaching that they have is so good. 44 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,960 Like at every single position, like the pitching coaches are fantastic. 45 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,800 The hitters coaches are fantastic. 46 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:46,800 Development is great. 47 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,520 They was like, they have a great farm system too, if you really think about it. 48 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,300 Like they got guys just waiting, you know, people just, they just buy players, but they 49 00:02:53,300 --> 00:02:58,080 also develop really talented players and they got so many guys sitting in the back. 50 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:03,520 It's just, you know, it's like that meme where like you can't keep getting away with this. 51 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,880 It just doesn't make any sense anymore on how it continues to happen. 52 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:12,760 The Roki thing, it's different money, but you know, the signing we'll talk about after, 53 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,560 but I think it's good for Roki. 54 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,080 I think he fits in great. 55 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,320 I think he'll have the most fun playing in LA. 56 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,600 Just playing with Otani and Yamamoto. 57 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:23,600 Yeah. 58 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:24,600 Yeah. 59 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:29,040 And just being in a great market, but I think it makes sense, but we'll see how it goes. 60 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,760 I think he won't have the best first year. 61 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:32,760 Yeah. 62 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,120 I mean, I went through some of his stats from the MPB and I don't think he's ever thrown 63 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,460 more than 120 innings in the MPB in a season. 64 00:03:39,460 --> 00:03:43,440 So the workload, we'll be really curious how they manage it. 65 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,440 If you want to talk about rotations, I mean, it might be the best pitching rotation ever 66 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,140 assembled that the Dodgers are going to roll out next year. 67 00:03:51,140 --> 00:03:56,880 There will be a six man rotation because Shohei has to pitch on a six man rotation, but that's 68 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:01,240 no problem for them because they've got, I mean, do you have legitimately one through 69 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:05,920 five could be a number one starter on two thirds of the league? 70 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,560 I'll read you the Roki's right now. 71 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:08,560 Yeah, please. 72 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:09,560 You got Blake's now. 73 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:15,840 Yoshinobi Yamamoto, Tyler Glass now, Tony Gosselin, Dustin May. 74 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,160 Now you got Roki Sasaki. 75 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:18,160 Shohei. 76 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,520 You got Shohei Otani. 77 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:24,800 You got Bobby Miller, who I think, do you think he'll go back down to AAA? 78 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,200 Like, is he going to, there's no way he can pitch in the, in the majors, right? 79 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:29,200 I don't know. 80 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:30,280 Maybe they'll make him a closer or something. 81 00:04:30,280 --> 00:04:32,680 They just, it's crazy. 82 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,280 They have so much talent. 83 00:04:34,280 --> 00:04:35,480 It's not even funny. 84 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:41,000 Like their AAA rotation would legitimately start for like half the league. 85 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:42,000 Yeah. 86 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:48,240 Even Landon Naack was a great, yeah, he was really helpful for them to play off run. 87 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:49,240 They have so many dudes. 88 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,240 And I mean, Roki, like he said, he fits right in. 89 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:57,560 The contract details, he's getting six and a half million was his deal with the Dodgers. 90 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:02,080 The craziest thing and Kenji, we touched on this in the last episode, he forfeited essentially 91 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,400 millions of dollars to come here early. 92 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:10,640 He's now no, he won't be eligible for free agency until he's age 30 season. 93 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:17,160 And so he essentially forfeits his year 24 season to his year 30 season. 94 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,520 And he gets to be on an amazing team. 95 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:20,520 Sorry. 96 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:25,680 If he signs early and like avoid arbitration, like how does that work? 97 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,600 Cause I've been seeing that a lot with like Jaren Duran. 98 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,000 Like they signed him so he avoids arbitration. 99 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,000 Oh yeah. 100 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,000 What does that actually mean? 101 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:39,320 Arbitration is a, is a, is a stipulation in baseball deals where the player can vouch 102 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,160 and say, Hey, I think I deserve 17 million. 103 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:43,480 And then the team goes back in. 104 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,360 I know we only think you're worth 15 million. 105 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:51,120 And if they can reach an agreement before then, which I mean, I'm going to back up even 106 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:52,160 further arbitration. 107 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:56,560 You're only eligible for arbitration after three years of service time. 108 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:57,560 So you have to play for three years. 109 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,680 So Roki has to play for three years after his, after his third season, he's eligible 110 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:02,680 for arbitration. 111 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,480 So then he can go to the Dodgers and they can say, Roki's like, I'm worth 20 million 112 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,440 Dodgers say, we think you're worth actually 17. 113 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,840 And then if they can't agree on anything before a given deadline, then they go to a judge 114 00:06:14,840 --> 00:06:19,680 and they place a case before a judge and the judge rules what the salary will be. 115 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,320 Basically, that's called an arbitration hearing. 116 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,840 So basically the reason you want to be eligible for arbitration is because you can then argue 117 00:06:26,840 --> 00:06:28,800 for your salary. 118 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:29,800 So do you think they'll do that? 119 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,720 Do you think Roki will do that as soon as he can? 120 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:36,280 I think so, but again, he won't be eligible until he, after his third season. 121 00:06:36,280 --> 00:06:40,200 And then even then the Dodgers and most teams, they want, they try to buy out some of your 122 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:41,200 arbitration years. 123 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,880 So they get you after your rookie deal is done. 124 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,160 So like that's what I want the Orioles to do with Gunnar Henderson and Adley Rutchman 125 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:51,480 is they're about to hit, I think Adley's in his arbitration years and Gunnar's about to 126 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,840 hit his arbitration years is you give them a 10 year extension, you buy out their arbitration 127 00:06:55,840 --> 00:06:56,840 years. 128 00:06:56,840 --> 00:07:00,200 So then they get way more money immediately than they would have otherwise. 129 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:04,960 And then they get less money maybe in the long term, but over the length of the deal, 130 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,180 it kind of evens itself out. 131 00:07:06,180 --> 00:07:08,640 So the Dodgers, I could absolutely see them doing that. 132 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,240 They're a really smart organization. 133 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:13,640 But who knows what Roki's plan is? 134 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:18,040 He clearly is here to win and to pitch at a high level and what better place to do it 135 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,040 than the Dodgers? 136 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,400 I mean, they just, they do it better than everybody else. 137 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,360 I thought, I mean, we're going to touch on the Blue Jays here in a bit. 138 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,920 The Padres were out on him that morning. 139 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:32,440 It was rumored that the Padres were out and that has to kind of be a sting if you're a 140 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:33,440 San Diego fan. 141 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,800 It felt like that was the guy to go get this off season. 142 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,360 They didn't and they haven't spent any money. 143 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:41,360 There's an ownership battle. 144 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:47,000 San Diego's in a really unique, I would say, I would say bad spot, although they still 145 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,440 have a ton of talent. 146 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,440 Don't get me wrong. 147 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,040 Yeah, San Diego's in a weird spot. 148 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,600 The Blue Jays are in a weird spot. 149 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,400 Blue Jays feel like they're just a silver medal team. 150 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:00,360 They finish second on every big free agent and every team just uses them exclusively 151 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,200 as leverage. 152 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:06,640 I'm going to wait because we're both going to go in on the Blue Jays in a second. 153 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,520 But if we're done with Roki, then I want to pivot to Tanner Scott. 154 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,280 Do you have any last bits on Roki Sasaki? 155 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:13,280 Nah. 156 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:18,200 What are you most excited to see him do in the big leagues? 157 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,640 Develop a new fastball that moves. 158 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,920 Is that a fastball movement? 159 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:24,920 Yeah. 160 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,560 I saw his fastball tick down last year. 161 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,160 I know he's having arm problems. 162 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:31,160 Okay. 163 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,760 Maybe that's why he wanted to come over earlier. 164 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:39,840 And I think he'll benefit from having many, many more pitchers in the rotation. 165 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:40,840 Yeah. 166 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,800 But he'll be okay. 167 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:44,800 Okay. 168 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,640 Well then, Roki's going to be fun to watch. 169 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,200 I'm excited to watch him pitch. 170 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,040 Crazy that the Dodgers have him as a five. 171 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,640 In talking to some of my friends and even to Kenji, we were like the one hole on this 172 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,720 Dodger team might be the bullpen. 173 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,360 You're like, maybe the bullpen stinks. 174 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,800 After they signed Roki, you're like, maybe the bullpen stinks. 175 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,260 Maybe that's how teams can get them. 176 00:09:06,260 --> 00:09:09,040 And then of course you wake up this morning, it's January 19th. 177 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:13,480 And of course they signed Tanner Scott, the most coveted closer on the market. 178 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,060 Four years, $72 million. 179 00:09:16,060 --> 00:09:19,360 As is par for the course with the Dodgers, 20 million of it is deferred. 180 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,780 He gets a $21 million signing bonus. 181 00:09:22,780 --> 00:09:24,320 So Tanner Scott's a Dodger. 182 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,560 They got their back end guy. 183 00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:29,640 Pray for your Padres fans in your life because they thought they were getting Roki. 184 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,920 Tanner Scott they had last year. 185 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:39,120 Tanner, like he kind of has Shohei's number and now Shohei doesn't have to play him. 186 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,680 So it's great for the Dodgers again. 187 00:09:42,680 --> 00:09:43,680 Everything's great for the Dodgers. 188 00:09:43,680 --> 00:09:48,280 Kenji, where do you stand on Tanner Scott going to LA? 189 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:49,280 It was shocking. 190 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,520 I can't say I ever projected him to actually go there. 191 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:58,440 Maybe early on, but I didn't think that they would still push this much money out. 192 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:02,680 I guess it's impressive and they must have some crazy good accountants to figure out 193 00:10:02,680 --> 00:10:04,400 the logistics of this. 194 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:12,520 Me and our friends were having a whole thing about it this morning. 195 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,360 I just don't, I don't know. 196 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:22,560 I don't think anybody understands just how complicated the MLB system is because it just 197 00:10:22,560 --> 00:10:25,240 doesn't make any sense. 198 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:30,400 I generally don't understand how they keep doing this and I swear I see a new term tossed 199 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,920 around every time they sign somebody of how they made it possible. 200 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:39,080 Yeah, it's a, I mean good for them, right? 201 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:40,400 If you can do it, then do it. 202 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:45,200 But yeah, it's mind blowing. 203 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:50,420 They have $1.2 billion in deferrals on the roster now, which is almost the franchise 204 00:10:50,420 --> 00:10:55,360 value of the Cleveland Guardians, which is $1.3 billion. 205 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,120 They just keep getting better and better. 206 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:02,300 They mean this is easily the best roster ever assembled in my opinion. 207 00:11:02,300 --> 00:11:09,220 If you go all the way back to the 1920 Yankees, that might be close, but again, that's over 208 00:11:09,220 --> 00:11:10,400 a hundred years ago. 209 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:16,240 It's over a century ago or just about a century ago. 210 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,000 This is the best team I've seen ever on paper. 211 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:25,120 The talent they have top to bottom loaded, bullpen loaded, bench loaded. 212 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,880 They got guys, they got dudes all over the place and they can just sign whoever they 213 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:29,680 want because everybody wants to play there. 214 00:11:29,680 --> 00:11:31,680 Everybody wants to play with Shohei. 215 00:11:31,680 --> 00:11:37,680 So I mean, I'm happy for Tanner Scott, gets his bag, right? 216 00:11:37,680 --> 00:11:42,120 I'm sad for the Padres because they shipped out all those prospects to get Scott and they 217 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,040 got essentially not that much out of him. 218 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,960 He pitched in that game five and pitched to Otani and that was it. 219 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,680 That was his use. 220 00:11:51,680 --> 00:11:56,480 And I don't know where you go from here, man. 221 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,240 Baseball is in this really, really weird spot we're going to talk about. 222 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,160 Is this bad for the game right after we hammer the Blue Jays? 223 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:13,160 But any little bits and pieces here, Kenj? 224 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,600 When I first got into baseball, I thought it was pretty simple. 225 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,080 I thought it was simpler. 226 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:21,000 I came from football, which is in the end kind of simple with the salary cap. 227 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:26,400 But I swear, I mean, baseball just gets more and more complicated. 228 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:33,000 And Tom said that there should be a salary cap and everyone says it's a salary cap. 229 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,240 I don't think baseball will ever have a salary cap. 230 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:36,240 They won't. 231 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:40,240 Because if the players have to vote on it, then why would you ever limit the amount of 232 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:44,840 money you can make, especially when it's a growing sport and you see players like Juan 233 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:50,360 Soto just made $800 million? 234 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:55,920 You can never make that much money in a career, probably, if you played football, which is 235 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:56,920 a salary cap. 236 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:57,920 Yeah. 237 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,440 And so NFL is, I think, what the most popular sport around the world. 238 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,000 And yet they can't compete with baseball money. 239 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,520 And so you can't compete with it. 240 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,640 And I guess it's really different from the perspective you put it on, like from a fan's 241 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:11,640 perspective. 242 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:12,640 Yeah, this sucks. 243 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,320 But from a player's perspective, absolutely, this makes sense to do. 244 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,960 To go to Dodgers, you can make so much money. 245 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:24,200 You're going to benefit from marketing, which means you can make way more money if you defer 246 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:25,200 some money. 247 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:26,960 I guarantee that's their pitch. 248 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:32,840 We have all these companies who can market you, get money that's not from us but from 249 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:33,840 them. 250 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:39,080 The amount of money you can make and also to compete for championships, it just sounds 251 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,520 too enticing to players. 252 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:47,120 And so it's hard to say as a fan who, I'm just a degenerate who watches them, to say 253 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:51,000 you don't deserve the money that you could potentially make. 254 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,920 And you're an idiot for wanting to win and to play with good players. 255 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,880 Because if I was in their shoes, I'm sure I'd be doing the exact same thing. 256 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:58,880 You know? 257 00:13:58,880 --> 00:13:59,880 Yeah. 258 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:01,000 Dodgers have a great case. 259 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,000 It's hard. 260 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,640 But as a fan, I understand where they're coming from. 261 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:09,900 But I feel like we kind of forget, you got to, the players are the ones that are producing 262 00:14:09,900 --> 00:14:13,880 all this stuff and if they want to do what's best for them, that's kind of up to them. 263 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:14,880 So it's kind of hard. 264 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:21,880 Like that argument of they suck, I hate this is kind of just shallow to me. 265 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,120 How much can you really complain as a fan? 266 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,640 I know all these people are saying I'm never watching baseball again. 267 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,360 I know dang well you're watching baseball opening day. 268 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,120 And I know you're watching in the postseason. 269 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:33,120 It's the same thing with the Chiefs. 270 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,160 Everyone says I'm not watching the Super Bowl if the Chiefs are then. 271 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:37,520 I know you're watching the Super Bowl. 272 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:38,520 It's the freaking Super Bowl. 273 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:39,520 You're watching it. 274 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,520 But I don't know. 275 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,760 It's hard. 276 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:44,840 It's just the way it is. 277 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:49,920 I do hope that there are some restrictions that are going to be put on to prevent just 278 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:50,920 deferring money. 279 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:56,600 Like there's just a way to at least balance it out a little bit because it is getting 280 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:01,360 a little bit crazy with the amount of talent they have. 281 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,240 But that's the beauty about baseball, right? 282 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,880 Is that all it takes is for your team to get hot. 283 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:07,880 Right? 284 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:08,880 Yes. 285 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:09,880 That is all it takes. 286 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:10,880 They're beatable. 287 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:11,880 Yeah. 288 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,040 And we saw last year the Dodgers had a great rotation and they kind of they fell apart 289 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,560 before the postseason. 290 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:17,760 But I mean they still played great. 291 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,720 They got hot and they won the whole thing. 292 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,920 And that's the scariest part about them loading up this year. 293 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,480 It's the beauty of baseball. 294 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,720 I would love if baseball got a salary cap. 295 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,000 It never will because the players will never agree to it because it would mean less money 296 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,920 for the players and the players association will never do it. 297 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,680 I do, however, think that at the next CBA negotiation, which here we go, we're going 298 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:44,480 to be like this is like a legal pod now. 299 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:49,440 At the next negotiation, I do think there will be extensive talks about deferrals and 300 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:55,280 international free agents because it's abundantly clear that the Dodgers have a substantial 301 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,000 advantage to international free agents. 302 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,780 I don't know if there will be a limit imposed. 303 00:15:59,780 --> 00:16:02,760 I don't know if there will be more transparency involved. 304 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:08,280 I have no idea because there's no way to enforce like say the Dodgers had an under the table 305 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:09,920 deal for Rokey the whole time. 306 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,160 There's no way to like find out if that was the case or to enforce anything bad on the 307 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,480 Dodgers. 308 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,080 Say that they just want to defer everybody. 309 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:25,180 I mean, listen, it's in 10 years time, the Dodgers financially, in theory, are in a lot 310 00:16:25,180 --> 00:16:31,720 of trouble because the one point two billion dollars deferred is a lot of money to have 311 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,200 to pay out at any point. 312 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:34,200 That's a lot of money. 313 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:38,220 Like I said, almost the same value as the Cleveland Guardians franchise. 314 00:16:38,220 --> 00:16:40,920 That's a lot of money to have to pay out. 315 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:45,120 But I mean, if we're going to get into finance time value of money, a dollar a day is worth 316 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:46,680 more than a dollar tomorrow. 317 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,500 If they just invest enough over time, the money they're making from sponsorship deals, 318 00:16:50,500 --> 00:16:54,120 they should be able to reasonably afford paying that out. 319 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:59,720 And the reason deferrals have been fine in contract talks in recent years is because 320 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,240 it's stupid as a player. 321 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:02,560 Let's be really honest. 322 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,380 If you're a player, you want your money guaranteed now. 323 00:17:05,380 --> 00:17:10,360 You don't want to wait five, 10 years to get your money because that's just not smart because 324 00:17:10,360 --> 00:17:13,740 a dollar today is worth more than a dollar tomorrow. 325 00:17:13,740 --> 00:17:20,280 So these players are all taking up small sacrifices to join this team, this super team. 326 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:21,280 I'm going to call it what it is. 327 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,680 This is a super team. 328 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:29,120 And make no mistake about it, this Tanner Scott deal is absolutely a team friendly deal. 329 00:17:29,120 --> 00:17:30,820 There's a reason that 20 million is deferred. 330 00:17:30,820 --> 00:17:33,280 There's a reason there's a $21 million signing bonus. 331 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,960 That's because they're trying to lower the average annual value against the competitive 332 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:41,060 balance tax and while also loading up on the best closer on the market. 333 00:17:41,060 --> 00:17:47,160 So good on Tanner for getting his money and great on the Dodgers because they continue 334 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:52,400 to like just do it better than everybody else because I'm sure teams came to Tanner Scott. 335 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,240 I mean, you want to tell me four years, 72 million, no other team was willing to offer 336 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,280 him that that's BS. 337 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:02,880 Tanner was willing to go to the Dodgers because he probably he probably took less money or 338 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,800 was willing to do the deferrals or take the big signing bonus to play with the Dodgers. 339 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,440 That's what he's willing to do. 340 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:13,800 So I'm I'm a fan of baseball. 341 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,080 I love baseball. 342 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:16,080 Love it. 343 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,080 Love it to death. 344 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:22,040 This is I think this is tough on for most fans of the sport and even casual fans to 345 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,760 look at and say this is good for the game. 346 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,520 The team loading up like this. 347 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:31,200 I think it's tough for somebody to say that. 348 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:32,840 I don't know where they go from here. 349 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,320 I think the CBA talks in a couple of years time will be crazy. 350 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:40,320 I just don't know where what they do from here and we're going to we may as well go 351 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,800 into is this bad for baseball. 352 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,880 You're relatively new in being a fan of this, Kenj. 353 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,160 I am indeed. 354 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:53,360 Do you like what do you see happening here in the future now and in the future for the 355 00:18:53,360 --> 00:18:58,320 sport and I guess the international aspects of the sport? 356 00:18:58,320 --> 00:18:59,320 Is this good for the game? 357 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:05,720 All these all this kind of the stacking of a roster? 358 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,960 I personally don't have a problem with it. 359 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:14,120 I know when like the Golden State Warriors were really really good. 360 00:19:14,120 --> 00:19:19,760 Like I wasn't I didn't watch basketball but I would watch basketball just to watch them 361 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:26,040 because it was entertaining right and baseball has been kind of the same when I first started 362 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:33,200 watching and now you know I enjoy watching all kinds of teams play but the world. 363 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:38,080 Yes we'll enjoy watching baseball probably more watching the Dodgers and their the time 364 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:45,080 zone right where they play is really beneficial to the world and it's you know like in the 365 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:50,800 end you hear players say it's a business right and the MLB is going to do what's best for 366 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,360 them and how they can make the most money. 367 00:19:53,360 --> 00:19:57,240 Like why does Roger Goodell keep upping up the amount of games you play? 368 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,800 It's not because the player safety because every player is saying no we're not playing 369 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,680 we don't want to play more games but it's because it makes some more money right and 370 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,840 he keeps spreading it all over the world. 371 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:09,840 Yep. 372 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:14,320 Baseball is the same thing opening games were in Korea next year it's in Japan. 373 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:20,240 Like they're going all over the world and so I mean the commissioner doesn't care I 374 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:25,880 don't think I mean for him he's making more money his sport is growing and if you're going 375 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:30,640 to have a couple unhappy American fans but the rest of the world loves baseball more 376 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:35,680 than I think he's willing to take that because there are so many untapped markets around 377 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:41,840 the world that baseball can reach now right and so many more players that can be exposed 378 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:46,320 to MLB now because you saw Dodgers just signed like a guy from was it South Sudan or something 379 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:52,000 this morning the six foot seven pitcher yeah it was 95 yeah like that's pretty cool all 380 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:57,520 right you wouldn't seen that 10 years ago and so I mean baseball is growing I guess 381 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:02,480 having a super team in a market like that with a lot of international players benefits 382 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:08,800 them financially but I guess as a long long-term fan of baseball for some people I can see 383 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:15,760 why it's it's frustrating to see that I think this is a turnoff for some fans I think it's 384 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:20,160 it's good for some fans and I think it's bad for others I mean I had a friend of mine co-worker 385 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:24,560 who doesn't follow the sport at all but when Roki signed he texted me and he's like how 386 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:29,760 did how does this even work how do they keep doing this and you have to explain to him 387 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:35,560 international free agents and bonus money and all this stuff and that Shohei deferred 388 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:41,600 six hundred and eighty million so that he could play with the super team and it's I 389 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,320 think for the casual fan it's tough I think if you're a Dodger fan you love it you're 390 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:51,320 gonna watch every game I think for somebody trying to get into the sport like say yourself 391 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,720 and you don't have a bunch of friends that play fantasy baseball or that love this stuff 392 00:21:55,720 --> 00:22:01,080 it like you you just read headlines and it's Dodgers Dodgers Dodgers Dodgers Dodgers Dodgers 393 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,760 like they just get everybody and then they win the win the World Series they sign everybody 394 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:09,680 everybody takes pay cuts to go play there I don't know I feel like if I was a fan like 395 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:14,480 just coming into the game you're either a Dodger fan or you're just kind of like that's 396 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,760 a lot like there's no parody in that but there's a reason the NFL is as popular as it is Jaden 397 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:24,240 Daniels heck last night Jaden Daniels was a he's playing he's playing at LSU last year 398 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,640 the commander stunk last year and then they drafted wins in the first yes and they draft 399 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,200 him in the first round and then now they're in the NFC Championship game that does not 400 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:37,840 happen in baseball rebuilds take decades in baseball because of this because of these 401 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:42,360 kinds of moves because of organizations that can do this because there's no salary cap 402 00:22:42,360 --> 00:22:48,280 that's why this takes so long and I mean the O's had a decade where they were the bottom 403 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:52,880 feeder of the of the baseball world they were the butt of every joke and now they get maybe 404 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:57,200 five years of a competitive window because they're not going to be able to retain all 405 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,460 their talent and because the Dodgers the Yankees the Mets are just going to keep buying them 406 00:23:01,460 --> 00:23:07,640 up and so I do think for small market teams this is just kind of a slap in the face I 407 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,520 think for owners everywhere I mean Tom said this this morning I think for owners everywhere 408 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:16,320 it's a it's a bit like well now our organization looks worse you're making you're making every 409 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:21,480 organization look bad and the Dodgers are like that's not our problem like start forking 410 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:26,360 out more money but every organization looks bad so I don't think the owners can be happy 411 00:23:26,360 --> 00:23:33,440 I think fans of 29 teams aren't happy I think GM's of 29 teams aren't happy because I mean 412 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,840 those rumors about him having an under the table deal those are there's probably something 413 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:43,840 there I don't know how like I don't know how they'd risk it though like like the Dodgers 414 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:49,520 have leverage on players they oh they have unbelievable amounts like yes I don't I can't 415 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:53,400 imagine like the Dodger being like we're gonna do something illegal to get you here like 416 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,280 they're gonna win without they would have won without Tanner Scott they could have won 417 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,680 the World Series without Roki Sasaki they probably could have won with even without 418 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:06,040 even Teo yeah right but they're getting to play in LA with that team with Shea Ohtani 419 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,960 and Mookie Betts and Freddie Freeman probably the most three likeable baseball players on 420 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:15,120 the planet I know that's what makes it crazy is that you can hate the Dodgers but the players 421 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:18,900 that they have are just such great people you know like it's not like they're just scummy 422 00:24:18,900 --> 00:24:23,520 attitude like I know you can't hate on the nicest players I know watch Mookie and Freddie 423 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:28,160 interact you're like I can't hate these guys you know like they're just Freddie Freeman 424 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:32,400 donated like a million dollars to the to LA for all the fires I showed you know like 425 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:40,440 500k like I mean they're active in their communities they're sweet they're caring but then yeah 426 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:46,160 on the surface of what's it's I completely understand why people can be totally upset 427 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:54,000 at this end now let me let me pose you a question if you're a fan of any of the other 29 teams 428 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,200 what do you have to hope for and listen we're not gonna hope for injuries here that's not 429 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:03,240 as a Royals fan yeah but like like what do you like what do you do like you can't the 430 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:08,080 Royals and the Dodgers roster stacked against each other like it's not even comparable it's 431 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:14,480 not I mean even like the Orioles who you could you could argue can contend for the AL against 432 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:20,000 the Dodgers roster like there's you can't compare you can't there's MVPs all over the 433 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:27,720 place on the Dodgers you just can't you can't do it so what like but why why watch sorry 434 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,400 this is and that's that I wasn't gonna say why watch the game because you watch the game 435 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,920 because anybody can win on any given night that's a beauty of baseball yeah that's what 436 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:40,280 I was gonna say but is that is that the only thing that like fans can hold on to is maybe 437 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:47,080 like we get hot at the right time we can beat him like is that is that it I don't know I 438 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:52,800 mean if we get in like a game of failure right like they're like these players that they 439 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:59,440 have fail less than the majority of the players yes but I mean time and time again you see 440 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,880 people just have bad years or have bad games like it's destined to happen as the game of 441 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,200 baseball is that not every single one of those players are gonna be at the best of their 442 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:15,080 time and I guess honestly like getting the number one seed is probably just out of the 443 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:19,280 picture for most teams yeah like if you're in the Dodgers division you're playing for 444 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:24,880 a wild card spot and you're and you're hoping to get hot at the right time which is rough 445 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:30,680 but I mean it's been done before right like I mean the Diamondbacks is a perfect example 446 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:36,120 they barely made it to the playoffs and then they honestly outplayed the Phillies who were 447 00:26:36,120 --> 00:26:40,800 a way better team in a way more complete roster and they almost won the World Series but the 448 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:45,680 Rangers were just really good that year I guess I think you have to play the long-term 449 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:50,040 game like you have to realize baseball is a long season you've stressed that time and 450 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:57,360 time again to me is that the baseball is it's a long season right and the Mets for in fact 451 00:26:57,360 --> 00:27:01,080 like last year at halfway through point of the season they were like one of the worst 452 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,720 teams in the league they made it to the they almost made it to the World Series last year 453 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:12,720 right there were a couple games away and so I think it's just about remembering what baseball 454 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:21,840 is about that it's a long season it's about error and failure and oh so you have to hope 455 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:27,280 for a little bit of luck because you need that you need a little bit of luck but it's 456 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:34,280 not impossible to beat the Dodgers right they're gonna lose probably 40 50 30 games you know 457 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,760 do you think that they could beat the record of 116 wins I think they could I think they 458 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:44,560 could and I think it'd be cool to see it I think it'd be cool to see it you know because 459 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:49,200 records are meant to be broken what is success for the Dodgers that look like like when when 460 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:55,200 two out of the next four World Series I would say so yeah and I was a failure anything less 461 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,000 than that's a failure two out of the next four five in the next five years if you're 462 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,320 doing because a lot of their contracts are three four years I'll say four years you have 463 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,920 four years of because I think everybody's contracts will start to run out yeah the next 464 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:13,120 four years I think the one at least two of them you have to get the be in at least three 465 00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:17,960 of them and then maybe you can get away with having one bad year but for the most part 466 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:23,040 excuse me you have to pretty much be competing at the World Series every single year but 467 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:30,040 I am fascinated to see what Dodgers look like in five years yeah because they have prospects 468 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,440 you know like at the end when these players are at the end of their contracts they're 469 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,800 just gonna trade them right and just probably get more prospects for them or get more players 470 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:45,680 for them and they're gonna figure this out so I have Blake Snell until 2030 yeah I guarantee 471 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:53,520 he's probably gone at like 2028 or 2029 2029 but yeah I'm fascinated to see what in five 472 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:58,400 years what the Dodgers look like because the young core is gonna be there I mean it's probably 473 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:05,760 just gonna be the Japanese WBC team at this time at this point but we'll see unreal man 474 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:14,640 unreal okay well here we're gonna we're gonna tee up the Blue Jays for a second I'll be 475 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:19,320 in Toronto for opening day and I have to admit I was excited that the Blue Jays would sign 476 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:25,160 somebody that I'd be excited to watch hey maybe Anthony Santander man I that would be tough 477 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:33,600 to watch the Blue Jays watch my old guy play against us what I mean the Blue Jays are just 478 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:39,320 being used just being outright abused by every every ownership group every agent is just 479 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,820 going and saying Blue Jays what do you guys an offer oh you guys can offer six and a half 480 00:29:43,820 --> 00:29:47,280 okay hey Dodgers the Blue Jays just said they can do six and a half can you do six and a 481 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:52,680 half okay cool you got six and a half sweet we're Dodger like that's that's what they're 482 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:57,440 doing and it was kind of a scumbag move in my opinion to make them go out and trade for 483 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:04,680 Miles straw and his horrible contract to get two million extra the Guardians from from 484 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:10,440 Cleveland they go out and they trade for Miles straw who is a horrible offensive hitter above 485 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:16,520 average defense but horrible offensive player and they got they trade for him and they get 486 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:22,760 two million in international bonus pool money in return and they take on his big contract 487 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:27,440 fifteen million a year for straw and they get two million in bonus pool money in return 488 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:32,400 and then two hours later Roky goes to the Dodgers so they make this deal to take on 489 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:37,540 an ugly contract so they can even make a run at Roky just for him to go right across town 490 00:30:37,540 --> 00:30:42,720 two hours later and say hey I'm gonna go to the Dodgers like that just doesn't feel very 491 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,160 I don't know it doesn't feel very good to me and the Blue Jays have been the butt of 492 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:49,960 every joke they were in on Shohei he was on the plane on the way over there Juan Soto 493 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:54,320 I heard that was a lie yeah it was a lie it was one of the shark tank guys was just on 494 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:59,540 a plane but like there was rumor that he was on the plane so Blue Jays fans are getting 495 00:30:59,540 --> 00:31:03,680 blue balled and they're thinking hey we're about to get our guy they're think they thought 496 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,720 they were in on Soto they thought they've been in on all of these free agents they thought 497 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:13,700 that they've they they can compete and they just are used for leverage so let me ask you 498 00:31:13,700 --> 00:31:21,480 like what what do you do next to the Blue Jays you have to sell you have to sell like 499 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:27,280 there is nothing you have nothing to be proud of the players that you have to be proud of 500 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:34,480 don't want to be there you have to sell and you just have to pray that the amount of prospects 501 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:41,280 that you can get for Vlad jr. which I think will be a pretty good amount and I mean I 502 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:46,960 would trade everyone like trade Alejandro Kirk trade Vlad trade Boba Shet I think you 503 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:54,560 can hold on to Dalton Varsho because what you gave up to get him he hasn't he he shows 504 00:31:54,560 --> 00:32:02,240 flashes and wow he's a great defensive outfielder and I think if you trade him you got to trade 505 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:09,760 Gosman Gosman's got a market now Bassett's got a market Barrios probably has a market 506 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:14,480 Barrios however you say his name like they have players that they can trade and if they're 507 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:20,240 smart they'll trade away their vets and try and restart that's the only way and it just 508 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:27,320 be hopeful that you can develop players and you know have a good enough relationship with 509 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,520 them to where they will want to sign and sign them early I I still don't understand why 510 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:37,280 they didn't sign Vlad early a lot earlier you know yeah if the rumors are true that 511 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,680 Vlad turned down his turned down the extension then I think you have to ship him off I know 512 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,680 the rumor was that the Mets were building up some sort of offer to go get Vlad jr. and 513 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:53,080 that would be a fun lineup in Queens Soto Lindor and Vlad jr. I just like the Blue Jays 514 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,680 are what I fear the Orioles are going to become where you have all this young talent and they're 515 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,720 like the up-and-coming team they're so exciting they have maybe money to spend and then they 516 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,420 just don't put it together and then you're blowing it up years later because you're like 517 00:33:05,420 --> 00:33:11,400 they got nothing they got nothing I I don't know what to do if you're the Blue Jays I 518 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,160 think they're gonna go out I think they're gonna overpay for somebody whether that's 519 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:19,320 Santander whether that's Alonso they're gonna go overpay because they're desperate to sign 520 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:25,680 anybody and then they're gonna be in trouble because they'll be stuck with a bad contract 521 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,280 and everybody else in the AL East has only gotten better I don't know what to say I mean 522 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,800 maybe the Orioles have gotten a little bit worse but Red Sox have gotten better the Rays 523 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,800 will be healthy the Yankees have probably gotten maybe marginally better I don't know 524 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:43,400 yet so I don't I don't know man the Blue Jays feel right now like the last place team in 525 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:51,920 the AL East yeah like it's just it I think it is the worst team like functionally wise 526 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:56,720 not roster wise but just they're just the worst team in the league right now in the 527 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:02,080 league I mean AL East oh in the league like morale wise oh yeah okay like the butt of 528 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:07,720 the joke wise and yes you have talent but if they don't want to play for you then that 529 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,560 makes you a really bad team so I don't know man the Rockies have a case Rockies have a 530 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:16,440 case there's nothing to look for I forget the Rockies are an actual MLB team because 531 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:22,760 of how big of a joke they are they got to get that team out of there they just I don't 532 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:27,840 know what do you get well maybe we'll do that later how do you fix the Rockies but that's 533 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:32,280 a question I can never I don't think I don't think we'll get any viewers on that episode 534 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:39,240 how can we fix the Rockies but I I don't know what the Dodgers are doing is bad for baseball 535 00:34:39,240 --> 00:34:45,400 only time will tell as a fan of a small market team it is frustrating because the O's certainly 536 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:52,000 I feel I can't compete with this aside from drafting extraordinarily well and bringing 537 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,620 up beyond talent but it will make it the bigger they are the harder they fall it will make 538 00:34:56,620 --> 00:35:04,400 it all the sweeter if and when some team can knock them off next year but I mean the odds 539 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,240 are stacked against them I don't know how big of a favorite they are to win the World 540 00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:13,780 Series but I would if it's plus money I would take the Dodgers right now so anything else 541 00:35:13,780 --> 00:35:23,120 you got for the people before we let them go go Dodgers I guess I guess so well thanks 542 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:27,620 for listening everybody we will be out with our tier list episode here soon but we had 543 00:35:27,620 --> 00:35:34,000 to drop and talk about the Dodgers abusing free agency so we appreciate you guys listening 544 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:53,680 I hope you all have a great week and we will catch you guys next time.