1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,980 Hey, hey, hey, how's it going guys? This is future Gabe coming at you this January 2nd now that I'm recording this little tidbit 2 00:00:06,060 --> 00:00:12,160 First of all, I just wanted to say happy new year to everybody and second of all really just thank you for all your support 3 00:00:12,340 --> 00:00:15,140 It's been a really fun last year doing these shows 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:20,040 The plan is to be more consistent with these uploads and more consistent with the content going forward 5 00:00:20,420 --> 00:00:25,860 But it has just been an awesome learning experience and really fun to get to do this with my best friends for a living 6 00:00:25,860 --> 00:00:30,300 So just wanted to put out that little tidbit before we get into the episode just me and Kenji this week 7 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:37,480 But hopefully some really insightful content from you guys. I don't really have a clue what they're talking about. So without further ado 8 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,520 Here's the episode. Thank you 9 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,400 Ladies and gentlemen, the stove right now is it's lukewarm 10 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:48,420 But it has been hot and it's about time your favorite baseball analysts have jumped on this the ones that don't really have a clue 11 00:00:48,420 --> 00:00:53,640 What they're talking about, but they're gonna try to attempt to show the day of a clue to talk about I got Kenji with me today 12 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:59,520 We're talking baseball. We're talking all the Japanese signings. We're talking the new free agents a lot of stuff to talk about 13 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,560 Let's jump into it 14 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:14,320 Once again, it's good to hear that intro music has been a long time since we talked ball on this channel 15 00:01:14,320 --> 00:01:20,400 It's been since the O's were a little were swept by the Rangers in the division series that we've done a show on this 16 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,280 podcast so 17 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,420 Long time that was for a good reason, you know, Joe did not want to do an episode 18 00:01:26,420 --> 00:01:30,960 he wasn't very proactive about you know doing another episode after the Rangers kind of did their run and 19 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:33,600 thankfully 20 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,800 That was the case because if he had he wanted to do an episode 21 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,480 I might have been in trouble because I would had to sit there and take it from him all day long. So 22 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,120 first and foremost Kenji 23 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,200 Welcome back to talking baseball. I guess I 24 00:01:46,960 --> 00:01:50,120 Know you're not usually be talking baseball guy at least the end of last year 25 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,400 He weren't but a lot of things to talk about especially the favorite player 26 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,000 So how you doing? 27 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:02,160 From a baseball standpoint, I think it's great. I think life is great. You know, I get to a 28 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,560 Watch my favorite player again this year 29 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,080 Yeah, and he's also gonna be on a team that actually wins now 30 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:18,000 So it's not gonna be as stressful or depressing to be a fan of Otani and I get to watch probably the greatest pitcher to ever live 31 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,000 I'm also playing the same team 32 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,040 Yeah, so I guess you never put of all time 33 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,360 And it's a great picture 34 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,720 Kershaw glad 35 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:37,720 Is it glass now glass knows the other guy? Yeah, and you're gonna be the greatest pitchers of all time now that they're okay 36 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,460 All right. Well, I guess this is a good segue 37 00:02:41,460 --> 00:02:46,920 So the reason we wanted to hop on here where unfortunately can't get Brady and Joe on here at the same time bringing everybody in 38 00:02:46,920 --> 00:02:51,080 Especially when it's offseason is tougher than you might think so well, we've got Kenji here 39 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:57,440 We want to talk a lot about these Japanese free agents because it has been kind of an offseason of I guess hype for these guys 40 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,040 So I got a lot of questions, baby 41 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,320 I got a lot of questions and I got a lot of things I want to talk about 42 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,080 Because there's a lot to discuss with these guys 43 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:13,100 They're getting contracts that are bigger than any American player and they've never thrown a pitch in you know, professional baseball in America 44 00:03:13,100 --> 00:03:16,720 And so I think there's a lot to discuss here 45 00:03:17,420 --> 00:03:19,420 And it's a good segue to go right into it. So 46 00:03:19,940 --> 00:03:26,100 I guess oh, I'll tie up salute some loose ends from last season. I bought Joe a Texas Rangers 47 00:03:26,780 --> 00:03:31,140 Postseason hat after they swept the O's in the division around they went on to win the World Series 48 00:03:31,460 --> 00:03:33,860 Joe is was as happy as can be 49 00:03:34,380 --> 00:03:38,720 And I'm sure we'll get him on here as the season gets a little bit closer and he'll will give him like his own 50 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:45,100 Soapbox and he can talk about it and give his whole experience. So Brady's Phillies lost in the championship series 51 00:03:45,100 --> 00:03:49,380 They lost game six and seven at home to the Arizona Diamondbacks. He was staunchly 52 00:03:50,140 --> 00:03:53,840 Saying that there's no way that Phillies lose two at home and they did so that was kind of funny 53 00:03:55,620 --> 00:03:57,620 But uh, yep, so Brady's doing okay 54 00:03:58,140 --> 00:04:03,780 And Kenji, of course kind of checked out after about you know, late August September last year when 55 00:04:03,780 --> 00:04:09,380 Otani was kind of checking out with the TJ and the Angels were well out of the postseason picture 56 00:04:09,380 --> 00:04:12,180 So but he's back into it. So it's kind of exciting 57 00:04:13,380 --> 00:04:17,740 We'll just we'll hop right into it. So the biggest headline of the offseason, of course is 58 00:04:18,380 --> 00:04:20,220 Otani's 10-year 59 00:04:20,220 --> 00:04:26,780 700 million dollar contract that he signed with the Dodgers back in was it early November or late mid November something like that 60 00:04:27,580 --> 00:04:29,580 reporting this 61 00:04:29,660 --> 00:04:30,980 so 62 00:04:30,980 --> 00:04:36,220 But that was a massive signing and then of course the news afterwards was the deferred contract 63 00:04:36,220 --> 00:04:41,420 So he gets paid two million a year for the next ten years and then 68 million a year 64 00:04:41,660 --> 00:04:46,260 For the next decade after that, so they save a crap ton of money and competitive balance tax 65 00:04:46,260 --> 00:04:50,900 They save a bunch and how much they're actually gonna have to pay him year over year because only pay him two years 66 00:04:50,900 --> 00:04:53,100 Two million a year for the next decade 67 00:04:53,100 --> 00:04:57,260 So they could spend it on whoever and you saw with the Yamamoto signing which we'll talk about in a bit 68 00:04:57,260 --> 00:05:02,940 So Kenji, first of all, give me your thoughts on Otani to the Dodgers for 700 million dollars 69 00:05:03,820 --> 00:05:06,420 And what do you think it means for I guess? 70 00:05:07,340 --> 00:05:11,620 Baseball as a whole Japanese baseball Otani LA. Let's hear it 71 00:05:13,460 --> 00:05:16,660 Well, there's a lot that comes with when you talk about Otani 72 00:05:17,540 --> 00:05:23,660 It's kind of hard because there's a side of you. That's like a fan and oh my gosh, this is insane 73 00:05:23,660 --> 00:05:27,460 You know, that's if that's hard to use like how's this even possible and 74 00:05:28,580 --> 00:05:32,300 Then you like like see comments you see the analysts talking about it 75 00:05:32,620 --> 00:05:36,780 And everyone's like all he's probably gonna get up to six hundred five hundred million 76 00:05:36,780 --> 00:05:42,780 Maybe seven hundred million dollars and then as soon as you know, you get signed everyone's like all how can you pay a DH? 77 00:05:42,940 --> 00:05:46,020 700 million dollars and it's like, you know, everyone's just 78 00:05:47,340 --> 00:05:49,340 annoying about it 79 00:05:49,500 --> 00:05:50,820 I 80 00:05:50,820 --> 00:05:55,780 Think if you were the most talented baseball player of all time, I don't think the price really matters 81 00:05:56,140 --> 00:05:59,480 You're willing to pay whatever to get him and Dodger showed that 82 00:06:00,060 --> 00:06:02,060 It's kind of crazy that you can defer money 83 00:06:05,180 --> 00:06:09,680 But if you can do it why not do it it's one of those things it's like if the league allows you to do it 84 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,780 Why would you not do it? Like you're an idiot for not? 85 00:06:12,860 --> 00:06:14,380 Doing what the leak? 86 00:06:14,380 --> 00:06:17,500 It's like with taxes right everybody that finds ways avoid taxes 87 00:06:17,500 --> 00:06:21,540 Like yeah, you can say that yeah, that's a terrible thing to do 88 00:06:21,540 --> 00:06:26,620 But it's in the books right like if you don't do it, you're an idiot. I'm the guy several of a baseball 89 00:06:26,620 --> 00:06:27,940 How can they do that? 90 00:06:27,940 --> 00:06:28,820 I'm like, yes 91 00:06:28,820 --> 00:06:33,660 It's like kind of like the Deshaun Watson contract almost where they just gave him five hundred guaranteed or no 92 00:06:33,660 --> 00:06:40,180 I'm not fine. Was it was it fully guaranteed and like all the GMs are like no like we're never gonna do that 93 00:06:40,180 --> 00:06:43,660 Like that's terrible for the sport. Yeah, it's almost kind of like this situation 94 00:06:43,660 --> 00:06:47,740 But this time he's not a criminal and he's not bad 95 00:06:49,340 --> 00:06:53,420 And so I think it's worth it not a criminal not a rapist 96 00:06:55,420 --> 00:06:59,020 Yeah, you won't be scared when he comes to your massage salon, you know 97 00:06:59,020 --> 00:07:02,260 You're gonna be happy with if over time he comes to yours Deshaun Watson right? 98 00:07:03,420 --> 00:07:04,540 right 99 00:07:04,540 --> 00:07:11,460 But overall, um, I am a little sad. He went to the Dodgers. I gotta be honest. I would hope he goes somewhere else 100 00:07:11,460 --> 00:07:14,620 But honestly, it wasn't it was yeah, go ahead 101 00:07:16,140 --> 00:07:18,060 I was just gonna see the places I wanted him to go 102 00:07:18,060 --> 00:07:21,340 I really wanted him to go to Seattle like I really wanted to see him in Seattle 103 00:07:21,340 --> 00:07:24,020 I thought he would be a really good fit on that young team 104 00:07:24,500 --> 00:07:28,300 Yeah, I don't know how much they could have paid him because Seattle's been pretty disappointed this offseason 105 00:07:28,820 --> 00:07:33,660 But that was like my hope and dream. I would have cried if he went to the Blue Jays 106 00:07:34,660 --> 00:07:40,060 Because who cares about the Blue Jays that was a big rumor was that he was gonna go to Toronto 107 00:07:40,060 --> 00:07:45,900 And there was like there was so much like Twitter drama about like who's on a plane and where's old tiny going? 108 00:07:45,900 --> 00:07:47,900 There's a press conference all this stuff 109 00:07:48,220 --> 00:07:50,940 And then of course the next day he just is like, yep side with the Dodgers 110 00:07:50,940 --> 00:07:56,220 Sorry, and it was like in the most basic Instagram post. He probably could have come up with it was just like bam 111 00:07:56,220 --> 00:08:00,060 It's who he is. He's a simple guy, but he knows it 112 00:08:00,060 --> 00:08:03,780 And like to me in the end what it shows that he just wants to win 113 00:08:03,780 --> 00:08:08,220 He doesn't care. He just wants to win in the sports because right he's one 114 00:08:08,220 --> 00:08:12,260 Every award championship possible in Japan. He won the WBC 115 00:08:12,980 --> 00:08:14,980 he was 116 00:08:14,980 --> 00:08:19,940 Not only was he a clear-cut MVP of the WBC because honestly Yoshida kind of carried that entire team 117 00:08:20,420 --> 00:08:25,780 The entire thing but like he played both ways and that last hit by him was probably the most clutches 118 00:08:26,420 --> 00:08:33,140 Most heartwarming besides each rose hit in the 2009 WBC. I don't know if you want to talking about 119 00:08:33,140 --> 00:08:37,540 I know I did only get watching Oh nine, but you clearly did so well 120 00:08:37,540 --> 00:08:40,420 Yes, I've seen I've seen like highlights of like 30 121 00:08:41,220 --> 00:08:45,220 500,000 times after it. Yeah, it's like a night pitch at bat against Korea 122 00:08:45,220 --> 00:08:48,100 You know, it's an extra innings run around second and third 123 00:08:48,100 --> 00:08:53,620 He's a line drive up the middle after battling off like four four four four pitches 124 00:08:53,620 --> 00:08:59,700 And then because that they go up and they win the game and it's just the greatest moment of my life and watching the great honey 125 00:08:59,700 --> 00:09:03,220 For Japanese sports amazing news, so I just keep ranting 126 00:09:03,220 --> 00:09:09,020 But I think it's not that big of a deal people need to take a show pill because obviously he's insane 127 00:09:09,020 --> 00:09:14,180 And if you're even doubting it one bit that he's not worth the money. You're an idiot in my right 128 00:09:14,180 --> 00:09:18,340 So this is I wanted to touch on the money and the numbers a little bit here. I'm a numbers guy 129 00:09:18,340 --> 00:09:22,180 I'm a finance guy. So I think it's it was super fascinating how it kind of broke down. So 130 00:09:22,980 --> 00:09:24,500 Otani already 131 00:09:24,500 --> 00:09:30,340 Like you can go look at the numbers and there were reports that he made like 50 million dollars last year loan from endorsements 132 00:09:30,340 --> 00:09:32,340 Not even including his contract with the angels 133 00:09:32,900 --> 00:09:34,900 How much was he getting paid with the angels? 134 00:09:34,900 --> 00:09:40,180 Uh, not a whole lot. I know he sacrificed money to come over here in the first place and the points to wait, right? 135 00:09:40,180 --> 00:09:43,060 I think that's what it was that angels gave him a little bit less money 136 00:09:43,620 --> 00:09:48,180 Or not something like that, but he made a he made 50 million in endorsements, which is crazy money alone 137 00:09:48,820 --> 00:09:52,740 And then you go and do the math and you're like, okay, I'm gonna go with the angels 138 00:09:52,740 --> 00:09:54,820 You go and do the math and you're like, okay 139 00:09:54,980 --> 00:10:00,500 Well, if he gets paid two million by the dodgers and he can make 50 million at least so this is at least he 140 00:10:00,580 --> 00:10:03,220 He was in anaheim before now. He's in the dodgers 141 00:10:03,300 --> 00:10:09,860 He's the one of the biggest teams in the sport in the country really the los angeles dodgers are huge brand 142 00:10:10,260 --> 00:10:17,300 So he's going to get more brand deals and he's gonna be more opportunity to make money on top of that 50 million dollars already 143 00:10:17,780 --> 00:10:21,700 Uh, and then so that two million just becomes chump change and then by the time he's done playing, you know 144 00:10:21,700 --> 00:10:27,060 He's in his 40s. He's getting paid 68 million dollars a year by the dodgers because of what he did when he was there 145 00:10:27,460 --> 00:10:34,420 It's worth noting most players don't do the deferred money because they don't have 50 million dollars in endorsements coming in 146 00:10:34,980 --> 00:10:39,780 Um as we'll touch on yamamoto signed 12 years 325. I think is what it was 147 00:10:40,260 --> 00:10:44,500 Uh, but he had no deferrals and a lot of players like soto when soto signs 148 00:10:44,500 --> 00:10:47,860 he won't have any deferrals things like that because they just can't afford it and 149 00:10:48,740 --> 00:10:50,820 finance finance bro, uh 150 00:10:50,820 --> 00:10:55,460 Uh gabe is talking net present value just basically means money today is worth more than money tomorrow 151 00:10:55,540 --> 00:11:01,380 So the 68 million otani is getting years down the line is not worth more. It's not worth as much as he if he got it today 152 00:11:01,940 --> 00:11:03,140 um 153 00:11:03,140 --> 00:11:08,100 But because you make 50 million a year in endorsements and he'll probably that'll take up to 60 70 probably 154 00:11:08,500 --> 00:11:11,620 Uh, whereas tenure with the dodgers he's gonna be totally fine 155 00:11:11,860 --> 00:11:16,660 And he's just he'll be a billionaire by the time he this contract with the dodgers is up, which is crazy 156 00:11:17,220 --> 00:11:19,540 Yeah, uh, I think it's great for the sport 157 00:11:19,540 --> 00:11:24,340 I think you know if you look at the stats alone and you're right, you know designated hitter 158 00:11:24,580 --> 00:11:29,140 And he'll be a pitcher from he'll be a starting pitcher for maybe what like half that contract and then i'll just 159 00:11:29,540 --> 00:11:34,740 Maybe be a relief pitcher or a hitter after that. I think it'd be good if he went became a closer in the end 160 00:11:35,220 --> 00:11:38,660 Yeah, I think I think that's probably good for his longevity. Um 161 00:11:39,460 --> 00:11:43,540 And you know you look at you think about that and you're like, okay for 700. That's crazy 162 00:11:43,540 --> 00:11:46,500 but then you think about the pr that they're getting now like 163 00:11:46,500 --> 00:11:51,220 Every japanese fan that's watched american baseball and is a huge fan of otani and now yamamoto, too 164 00:11:51,620 --> 00:11:56,500 They're all dodger fans. They're all buying dodger stuff. It's a business thing and you know the dodgers have made 165 00:11:57,060 --> 00:12:02,980 Otani set a record for jersey sales right after he got signed. That was wild crazy record and the jerseys are sweet 166 00:12:02,980 --> 00:12:04,980 I'm not buying a jersey. Kenji's gonna buy a jersey 167 00:12:06,020 --> 00:12:08,020 Um, the jerseys are sweet 168 00:12:08,580 --> 00:12:15,780 Uh, and you know, i'm sure that they made their fair share of tv deals and commercials and sponsorships right after they announced that they signed him too 169 00:12:15,780 --> 00:12:23,300 Uh, like the dodgers are the dodgers. They keep getting better. They the the brand gets bigger every japanese fan for the next decade 170 00:12:23,780 --> 00:12:25,780 Is going to be a dodger fan 171 00:12:25,780 --> 00:12:29,780 That's you just bought a country you bought a country. I mean how that's crazy 172 00:12:30,500 --> 00:12:33,140 Um, and I think it's well worth 700 million dollars 173 00:12:34,260 --> 00:12:36,260 I think there's a reason why 174 00:12:36,260 --> 00:12:42,980 Oh 100 like it's more than just getting a great player. Like you said, it's it's the marketing 175 00:12:42,980 --> 00:12:49,140 The marketing is insane. Yeah, everyone in japan is a diehard otani fan, right? 176 00:12:49,140 --> 00:12:53,700 Just like they were diehard ichiro fan just like they were diehard darvish fan 177 00:12:54,900 --> 00:13:01,620 Maeda tanaka, right all these bitches that come over these players the great players that come over japan loves them because 178 00:13:02,020 --> 00:13:06,100 They're good characters. They're always respectful. They play the sport the right way 179 00:13:06,740 --> 00:13:08,740 and they're really good, right and they 180 00:13:09,220 --> 00:13:11,140 They love their country usually 181 00:13:11,140 --> 00:13:15,060 Um, and so all the japanese fans love them and they support them wherever they go 182 00:13:15,140 --> 00:13:17,300 Like it doesn't matter which team they go to they support them 183 00:13:17,860 --> 00:13:19,620 so 184 00:13:19,620 --> 00:13:27,540 Pretty much. Yeah, you have all of japan on your side now. Um, I think any future japanese player that comes out will have to 185 00:13:28,340 --> 00:13:34,020 Consider coming to the dodgers. I mean, I don't know how much they can afford but a lot more are going to come 186 00:13:34,100 --> 00:13:38,420 I think in the next five six years, there's not a crazy amount of good players that could come 187 00:13:39,060 --> 00:13:40,100 um 188 00:13:40,100 --> 00:13:45,700 Yeah, there are great players in japan don't get me wrong. There's a reason why we won the wbc just saying but 189 00:13:47,220 --> 00:13:48,580 um 190 00:13:48,580 --> 00:13:52,660 They don't really fit the major league. I don't think they're good players in japan 191 00:13:53,540 --> 00:13:59,780 Yeah, I mean listen, I want to defend. I want to defend my country here briefly about this wbc thing lance lynn 192 00:14:00,260 --> 00:14:02,260 Started a winner-take-all 193 00:14:02,740 --> 00:14:08,740 Against jet against japan when you guys had yamamoto sasaki and otani being able to put your lance lynn started 194 00:14:08,740 --> 00:14:11,460 I understand. I understand pitching was horrific 195 00:14:12,340 --> 00:14:18,900 Lance lynn and meryl kelly started that game to win it for my country. I'm sorry. Wayne Wright was pitching. I'm sorry that 196 00:14:19,460 --> 00:14:23,300 Yeah, the lineup was great. Don't get me wrong. Okay, so like let's say like let's say because in 197 00:14:24,980 --> 00:14:28,100 We'll spend five minutes on this five minutes on five minutes. Here we go in four years 198 00:14:28,180 --> 00:14:30,020 We're gonna have an xwbc 199 00:14:30,020 --> 00:14:34,580 Everybody in the major league is gonna play because mike trout said this is the funnest baseball movie 200 00:14:34,580 --> 00:14:36,500 But it's the best baseball ever played in my life 201 00:14:36,500 --> 00:14:42,980 I hope so everybody's gonna play and there's no way any major league team has any way of stopping their players from playing because 202 00:14:43,460 --> 00:14:46,660 They'd freak out because like no we want to represent our country and play which yeah 203 00:14:46,740 --> 00:14:50,740 I love because I want to see the best of the best play right? I do I do too 204 00:14:51,460 --> 00:14:56,100 So if you have four starting pitchers, who are you taking who are american? 205 00:14:56,260 --> 00:14:58,740 Not because you have a lot of people from different countries 206 00:14:58,980 --> 00:15:04,820 But who are the the four american pitchers that you're going to be taking in four years to start? Oh in four years, that's tough 207 00:15:04,820 --> 00:15:06,820 uh, right 208 00:15:07,620 --> 00:15:09,220 Degrom 209 00:15:09,220 --> 00:15:13,300 Is he gonna be in the league still? Yeah, I take degrom. I take george curvy 210 00:15:14,100 --> 00:15:15,700 um skeins 211 00:15:15,700 --> 00:15:17,460 poskeins, uh 212 00:15:17,460 --> 00:15:18,740 I've been here 213 00:15:18,740 --> 00:15:24,740 Kirby's gonna be elite in four years. He's already elite. Um, even gilbert's gonna be great. Can they coal? 214 00:15:24,900 --> 00:15:26,020 I mean, there's so many guys 215 00:15:26,020 --> 00:15:26,580 I mean 216 00:15:26,580 --> 00:15:31,220 This is my thing is if you took if it was an all-star team on both ends, right? 217 00:15:31,220 --> 00:15:34,740 And the japan team was largely an all-star team from from npv, right? 218 00:15:35,380 --> 00:15:42,100 Yamamoto sasaki and otani who when sasaki gets posted whether it's next year or whenever he's eligible to be posted after that 219 00:15:42,500 --> 00:15:45,540 He's gonna get a massive bag too because sasaki's insane 220 00:15:46,100 --> 00:15:50,340 Um, he's arguably better than yamamoto, right? Am I understanding it correctly? 221 00:15:51,220 --> 00:15:56,820 Uh, I wouldn't say that. Oh, okay. Sorry. My japanese baseball is that's why we have you right? 222 00:15:57,460 --> 00:15:59,140 um 223 00:15:59,140 --> 00:16:01,140 But uh, I would argue 224 00:16:01,860 --> 00:16:06,500 That if if if the if mlb's best pitchers join that team 225 00:16:06,980 --> 00:16:10,180 Um, then it would be a true fair matchup. I mean when japan won last year 226 00:16:10,180 --> 00:16:12,740 I was like that's no surprise like they wanted it more than the u.s 227 00:16:12,740 --> 00:16:14,660 Did they had better pitchers in the u.s? 228 00:16:14,660 --> 00:16:19,220 Did they played as a team better than the u.s. Did like it was just clear that they were the better squad 229 00:16:19,860 --> 00:16:22,660 uh, but i'd be curious to see what would happen if you get like the 230 00:16:23,620 --> 00:16:25,060 mlb's best 231 00:16:25,060 --> 00:16:32,020 American pitchers against japan's best pitchers, you know, I would say the mlb team would be more talented 232 00:16:32,660 --> 00:16:40,500 Okay, I don't think because I I don't think japanese players are the most talented players in the world, but they're they've they've got grit 233 00:16:41,140 --> 00:16:46,340 They got great technique and they play the game right, right? That's what I've like i've always stressed about japanese players 234 00:16:46,420 --> 00:16:48,260 They play the game right 235 00:16:48,260 --> 00:16:53,220 It's the details right and that to me is what makes them so special. They're not crazy good athletes, right? 236 00:16:53,220 --> 00:16:59,860 Like they're all mediocre like if you look at that japanese team like there's a couple great stars and the rest of them are just complete 237 00:16:59,860 --> 00:17:01,380 role players, right 238 00:17:01,380 --> 00:17:03,380 Right, like our shortstop 239 00:17:03,780 --> 00:17:08,340 Exactly, they do their job, right? They play the small ball. They'll bunt when they need to though 240 00:17:08,660 --> 00:17:14,580 They play defense perfectly, right? And so I think from a talent wise. I don't think you can beat the mlb 241 00:17:15,140 --> 00:17:16,420 like because 242 00:17:16,420 --> 00:17:19,860 Like if you had your pole on that team last year, you guys would have been fantastic 243 00:17:19,860 --> 00:17:23,700 I know b is the pinnacle of baseball. That's why japanese players are coming here 244 00:17:24,100 --> 00:17:29,300 um, but I think I I don't mean to discredit like the quality of japanese baseball at all because you guys 245 00:17:29,700 --> 00:17:33,700 You see it the dodgers just shelled out over a billion dollars for your two best players 246 00:17:34,260 --> 00:17:35,860 They just they did it 247 00:17:35,860 --> 00:17:40,820 And they're going to continue to pump out players because this it's only growing in popularity in over the world 248 00:17:40,820 --> 00:17:42,260 But especially in japan 249 00:17:42,260 --> 00:17:47,300 So you're going to continue to get the best players that keep coming over and they're going to perform at a really high level in america 250 00:17:47,300 --> 00:17:53,540 And they're going to be competing with the best american-born players the best dominican-born players the best cuban-born players for 251 00:17:54,260 --> 00:17:57,140 The best spots in the country or in the world, excuse me 252 00:17:57,540 --> 00:18:00,020 Um, and I think it's great for the sport of baseball 253 00:18:00,820 --> 00:18:05,460 I'm fascinated to see what the wbc rosters look like in a few years time. I'm so excited 254 00:18:05,540 --> 00:18:07,700 Um, because I think it would be I think it's gonna be a lot of fun 255 00:18:07,780 --> 00:18:11,060 I mean there you could get the likes of adley being on that team you could get 256 00:18:11,540 --> 00:18:14,900 Um, I think that will be him right it will be him in four years 257 00:18:14,900 --> 00:18:21,220 This who else is it going to be because it should be him dude. I gotta say I think mike trout has saved baseball 258 00:18:22,180 --> 00:18:22,900 My 259 00:18:22,900 --> 00:18:29,780 Using to play wbc and like having american players because america took wbc as a joke in the past. It's true 260 00:18:29,780 --> 00:18:32,500 They did like 2009 jeter played but like 261 00:18:33,780 --> 00:18:38,420 They were trash like they they were not recruited people. Yeah, right exactly those guys 262 00:18:38,500 --> 00:18:41,140 I think trout saved baseball for the world, right? 263 00:18:41,140 --> 00:18:46,500 Because remember like when mexico's coach came out and said like whether japan wins or mexico wins tonight 264 00:18:46,740 --> 00:18:51,780 like doesn't matter it's like baseball won tonight or baseball will win tonight and like that's so true because 265 00:18:52,660 --> 00:18:57,300 For the first time the whole world actually cares about the sport of baseball together, right? 266 00:18:58,020 --> 00:19:00,020 And they want to watch the best of the best 267 00:19:00,980 --> 00:19:07,380 And now last year happened because it was so good and that that final battle between otani and trout was such a 268 00:19:07,780 --> 00:19:09,780 like a perfect um 269 00:19:09,780 --> 00:19:12,020 Yeah, but like it's it's a fairy tale ending right? 270 00:19:12,580 --> 00:19:14,260 Yeah, everybody's like 271 00:19:14,260 --> 00:19:18,580 I gotta be a part of this. I gotta watch this again. This is the next big thing 272 00:19:19,140 --> 00:19:24,180 And so and everyone's like agree because if you think about it, that is the world champion, right? Like 273 00:19:24,900 --> 00:19:29,540 I'm not gonna guess has a mixture but like that's like literally the you against the world. It's like 274 00:19:30,660 --> 00:19:36,500 The world it's a patriotic thing but also like it's exciting because you're playing with all these all sorts of other teams 275 00:19:36,500 --> 00:19:43,060 It's I think it's so good for the sport of baseball. I'm like, I'm excited and i'm excited for um, 276 00:19:43,540 --> 00:19:45,540 What 2026? 277 00:19:45,700 --> 00:19:49,220 I don't know when it is but something like yeah, but I think next time i'm so excited 278 00:19:49,540 --> 00:19:56,500 I'm so happy for the sport that you know, it's becoming more international and that's so many talented japanese-born players are coming over 279 00:19:56,500 --> 00:20:03,000 And they're having a lot of success. And of course, there's the ichiro's that you know came over and he was a international superstar 280 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:07,080 Because he's one of the best players of all time. He's one of the best hitters of all time 281 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,720 Like one of the best true hitters of all time 282 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:15,800 Uh, and now you just see even more players that are that talented coming over otani will go down as the best 283 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,280 Or most not maybe not like best 284 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:25,480 Best and most talented baseball player ever. He's better than baby. He's better than anybody you've ever seen otani is otani 285 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,720 He throws 100 miles an hour and he can hit 45 bombs 286 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,080 um, I saw this thing with like, um people kind of like 287 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,320 Saying that we all need to chill out on bay ruth like 288 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:38,200 Bay ruth played in an age where curve balls that exist and they run through like 80 miles an hour and there's right 289 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:44,200 You think bay ruth is better than like no he's my trout or something and i'm like, you know, actually that's a great point like 290 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,760 Yes in his age. It's like the generation thing like he was the greatest in his generation 291 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,560 But if he played in our league this year, like he would suck 292 00:20:52,120 --> 00:20:57,800 Maybe there's no way he's gonna 100 miles an hour. Yeah, but but like they're playing against like t-ball players, right? 293 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:02,600 When it comes to the pitching he would like they didn't weight lift really they like they just weren't 294 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:09,000 They weren't that good the players he played against otani is you know better than ruth better than anybody that we've ever seen so 295 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:14,520 In his generation though he was the goat like i'm not gonna doubt that so i'm gonna pivot now kench 296 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,760 Yes, you tell me you answer me this question 297 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,960 Um, we're gonna stick it we're gonna stay here with these japanese-born players 298 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,200 What is you paid you pay otani 700 million dollars? 299 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,720 What does he have to do for that contract to be worth one world series two? 300 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,240 Um, and then we'll add a yamamoto on top of that right afterwards 301 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:37,320 So like what is what does otani have to do to make for the dodgers to say 700 million well spent? 302 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,400 I mean 303 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:48,280 I would say I don't know. It's kind of hard to limit yourself with because it's it's so much more than just him, right? 304 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,400 Yes, if you look at last year 305 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:56,120 It was because of muki bets and like almost muki bets his fault because he just couldn't get a hit right like 306 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,800 He's a he's a big part of that offense. Yes. There are other contributors 307 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:05,320 But when you're a leader and you're that important of a player on that team and you can't show up 308 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,960 That's gonna be on your shoulders, right? 309 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:09,640 But it wasn't just his fault 310 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,880 It was a lot of the other things like the pitching was terrible like they scored like what six runs against them 311 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,680 They did not play like there's a lot of problems that happen 312 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:22,360 And so I know everyone's gonna freak out. They're gonna say unless he wins this many world championships. This is a waste of money 313 00:22:22,360 --> 00:22:27,240 I don't think there really is a fair way to put that because I don't think world championships 314 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,680 define everything because no I 315 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,000 Agree with that. I but I would argue but he does have to wait some words 316 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,120 You spend a billion dollars. You have to figure like okay 317 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:43,080 Couple mvps at least one world series title and you compete for a bunch of others, you know 318 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:47,080 I think you're in the playoffs every year like right. Yeah. Yeah, I guarantee you 319 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:53,000 They'll be in the world series at least three times in the next 10 years. Okay. I think you'll win mvp at least once or twice 320 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,160 Probably in the next five years and then after that, we'll see what happens 321 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:01,000 I don't know how his body's gonna work. But if he's like Lebron and you might keep winning him, but 322 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:07,800 Honestly, um as long as the team route is going good, right the city still on his back 323 00:23:08,360 --> 00:23:10,840 Players still want to come to la they can't win 324 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:15,080 They still want to come to la they still want to perform and they like who he is 325 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,600 Okay, and they're just they're just winning games, right if they're winning games 326 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,960 They're they're trying they're making playoff pushes. Yeah, but the things that I control so much in playoffs 327 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,320 Yeah, the thing with the Dodgers is that they just that's what they've been doing 328 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,440 So they signed Freeman and that's and even before they are playing 329 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:36,440 They won a crap ton of regular season games and then they would kind of crumble in the playoffs every time 330 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,680 When you play in Kershaw one of the best pitchers i've ever seen in my life 331 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:45,480 He will be remembered by dodger fans for struggling in the postseason. That's true 332 00:23:46,120 --> 00:23:50,920 Um, one of the best pitchers i've ever seen in my like watching him, you know, 2010s 333 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,800 Mid-2010s best pitcher on the planet 334 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,440 Uh, but he will be remembered by fans forever as being a choker in the playoffs 335 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,680 That's it when you think of him in the play like in the biggest ones he crumbles 336 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:07,720 Um, and so that's where I think dodger fans are like, okay. Well, we paid you all this money 337 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,120 But now you gotta go win it like you you like you gotta go win 338 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,920 Like we're not talking just getting past the division series. We're not talking, you know 339 00:24:17,460 --> 00:24:20,860 Championship series we're saying like world series championships 340 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:27,160 Um, because I think anything less of at least one in the next decade is a huge bust 341 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,640 And the longer that goes on that they don't get it 342 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:34,920 I think the pressure mounts that was the first thing I thought when I saw that, you know, of course they signed otani 700 million 343 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:40,120 But when they gave yamamoto 325 for 12, I was like the pressure is on 344 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:42,280 because 345 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,680 The padres say what you will about them losing soto 346 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:51,960 They added pretty decent pitching depth to their team with the soto trade and the diamondbacks just signed rodriguez and they just made a world series push 347 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,880 Uh, and I mean the giants are always competitive with the dodgers 348 00:24:55,880 --> 00:25:00,680 So I look at it and i'm like those teams are licking their chops. They're going we get to be the ones that get to slay 349 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:06,920 Those guys the ones that just paid a billion dollars for two guys and they already have freeman and betts and an all-star squad will smith 350 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,160 We forget about he's a fantastic catcher 351 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,640 Um, they just they got to last now 352 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:16,440 They glass now yamamoto bueler comes back. They might resign kershaw. They got a bunch of good rookies 353 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,120 uh 354 00:25:18,120 --> 00:25:22,200 I look at it, please trevor bauer, please go to the dodgers, please 355 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,200 Please 356 00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:28,200 They I don't know if he will go anywhere. I don't know where it'll go 357 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:35,400 That's a that's a different discussion for another time. Um, I was a bauer fan before he uh came out that he was a pretty violent lover 358 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:40,280 Um, but hey what he does in the bedroom is his own is his own thing, man 359 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,200 All right, everyone's got their thing, but you can't just making up stories about it, you know 360 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,240 Hey, man, whatever you say, whatever you say 361 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:52,520 Uh, but so in my mind I look at it and i'm like at least one world series maybe two 362 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:58,200 And you're happy with spending this much money, you know three I think would be you'd be ecstatic if you got three in the next decade 363 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,920 But we haven't had a repeat champion 364 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:08,920 in professional base and major league baseball since I believe was the 2000 to 2001 yankees or like the 99 2000 yankees 365 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,000 Uh, we haven't had a repeat champ in 23 years 366 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:20,200 Uh, it's because it's just so hard right because like it's so whoever gets hot the diamondbacks were not the best team 367 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,480 No, not whatsoever, but they got hot right? 368 00:26:24,120 --> 00:26:25,880 that's the thing is 369 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:32,120 It's it's just timing based right? It just depends on a lot of it is rolls a lot of it is and so I think you know 370 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,760 I'm really curious to see what happens and I think the pressure will be on especially when it comes to the playoffs 371 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:41,240 There will be there'll be a juggernaut. They're gonna go win 100 510 games. They will 372 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,960 But when it comes to the playoffs and then maybe they have to go on a road on the road in the division series 373 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,000 And they split one one or whatever it may be 374 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,560 That's when I think the pressure mounts because you're like we got paid a little we paid them a lot of money. They gotta win 375 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,320 So that's that's how I feel about it. I got one more thing 376 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,720 I'll say about it and then we can like move on. I think 377 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:01,880 um 378 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,040 Otani's leadership will make a big difference 379 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:10,360 Because I think if if like freeman's very quiet muki, I don't know how like vocal he is 380 00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:14,360 I was talking about a very vocal guy, but there's something about Otani that people just want to follow right? 381 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,080 His character is awesome. He picks up trash 382 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,840 Even though he's worth a kajillion dollars like he right right 383 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,960 He does not care about his worth or what he is 384 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:30,440 He he's just generally a great person who loves baseball that just wants to win and he loves his team 385 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,600 Everybody raves about him, right? 386 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,720 There's something about him like he has that it factor completely 387 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,840 And I think if you watch that jet like the japan team 388 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,040 Yeah, like a I want to see him 389 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:49,720 Screaming from second base again during baseball. I never I saw that once this year when he hit a homerun against the yankees, right? 390 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,720 Where he actually extreme like like he was really passionate 391 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:58,360 He doesn't show emotion a lot like I want to see that because that that that got going 392 00:27:58,360 --> 00:28:02,200 I was like holy cow. My heart is about to explode watching him scream 393 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,080 but I think 394 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:10,040 Because shohei brings that I think that's what will get them over the hunch 395 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,760 Is I think I think you're just watching 396 00:28:14,120 --> 00:28:18,680 Like no frick yeah, we can do this. We have freaking out tani like muki's gonna be like yeah, we can do this 397 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,520 Freeman, you're gonna play better. I think even muncie will play better everybody everyone else 398 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,920 I think we'll just play so much better when it matters because of someone like otani 399 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,920 Okay, I can get by that's all I'm saying. I'm I'm fascinated to watch it play out 400 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,560 I mean i'll be watching most dodger games. I know you and I'll be watching 401 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,560 I'll be watching every single game 402 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:42,600 Yeah, because I think especially like when yamamoto starts and otani's batting clean up, you know, like that that's going to be so fun to watch 403 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:49,000 Uh, i'm fascinated to see how they do they have glass now in that rotation. Bueller will be back. Maybe they reassigned kershaw 404 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,080 uh 405 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,600 It's gonna be awesome 406 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:53,880 um 407 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,000 As we transition here a little bit 408 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:59,160 We have a couple more free agents that uh are coming over they've been posted and reassigned 409 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,280 Who was the guy that went to the padres the other day kenji the closer do you know? 410 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,280 Um, his name is matzahy 411 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,800 That's not good. What's the what's the deal with him? They lost hater. What's the so he's uh 412 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:12,760 He was very 413 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,080 Like when he came out of high school, he was like 414 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:20,200 The pitcher that came out like he was always rated really high like I remember 415 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,160 like I would play with him a lot like in my games because 416 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,880 He's just a small little lefty those 417 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:31,640 I think he throws like 92 is what I read. Is he crafty then is he like crafty kind of pinpoint or what is he? 418 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,680 Okay, so I think he has a big slider 419 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,520 Or slitter one of those two. I always get the splitter splitter when I read things wrong 420 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:43,160 I don't know too much about him. Like I don't like he's not he's not he's not insane or anything, right? 421 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:48,040 Him and iman laga are not are they're not like insane pitchers. They're nowhere close to the yama lago 422 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,240 Yeah, but they were good 423 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,080 In japan like especially my he succeeded for the first time 424 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:59,160 He succeeded for 10 years, right? Like he was a closer for 10 years. He did his job really well 425 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,760 I think he had like at least like 30 saves almost every year or 20 saves every year 426 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,120 And he's he's doing stuff up there. And so 427 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:07,720 um 428 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,800 I don't know how well of a closer he will be 429 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,040 I don't know if they'll make him a closer 430 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:17,000 I like whether they might use him depending if he's a lefty or a righty because they have like two closers now that they like 431 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:18,680 but 432 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:19,960 um 433 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,840 Of course his expectations are nowhere near as yama 434 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:28,920 Motos because the money's not even close and right well when you pay yama moto yama moto was guaranteed 3.25 435 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:33,160 Which makes him the richest pitcher in terms of garrison all guaranteed in major league baseball 436 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,800 Well, most most mlb contracts are fully guaranteed anyway 437 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,040 Um, okay, but so it he's more expensive than garrett cole 438 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,440 uh, which 439 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:49,080 That that's crazy. Um, like I i i'm all for him being really talented. I want to see him succeed 440 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,480 uh, but at the same time 441 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,600 It's crazy to me that a guy who's never thrown a pitch 442 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,240 in american baseball 443 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,360 Just got paid the most money in the history of american baseball 444 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,760 um, so I think I think he's got a lot to prove like I said, I I 445 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,800 I wonder if the lights will be a little bright at first 446 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,840 Um, I think so or if it'll take a little while. I mean because the dodgers he grew up watching the dodgers 447 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,600 He said at his press conference there was a little there was a slim chance 448 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,320 He would go anywhere else but la even if otani signed elsewhere 449 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,160 uh 450 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,440 So I think it's 451 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,560 I'm really curious to see how they both do. I think the pressure's on both of them 452 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:30,440 I think otani's got to come out and perform right away and he will tani's otani, but uh, I think 453 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:36,920 A little bit gone like we saw with bryce because of that time and john. Yeah, but he's still an above 300 hitter 454 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:42,040 He still hits the ball anywhere you want it to him because still still bases. So I think he's gonna be fine 455 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,180 Yeah, yeah, I think otani will be fine. Uh, but I think yamamoto 456 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,880 I I hope not but I think you could end up in a spot where we get to you know 457 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:54,360 The trade deadline or even the first couple months of the season we say was did they give him too much? 458 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,280 I think what people gotta remember is like you gotta give him at least like a I would say 459 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,440 I don't think the best of him will come out till year two. I agree 460 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:07,020 I'm just saying the la media when you pay anybody that kind of money, they're gonna be impatient 461 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,160 Uh, it's like we talk about it in the nfl when owners are giving coaches 462 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:16,680 Massive contracts to come and lead their team and you know year one year two. You can't really perform 463 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:22,360 They're gonna be impatient right away. So I think if yamamoto has you know, say we get to 464 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,120 the 465 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,320 All-star breaks in july if we get to july and he hasn't really like 466 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,760 Shown a crap a whole bunch of promise 467 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,360 Um, then I think you'll get to the point where maybe not even a whole bunch of promise 468 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,980 But where he's not been shown that he's on a caliber of coal and degram 469 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,800 Um, then I think they'll be like three maybe give him a lot 470 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:48,120 Uh, because you got him for 12 months. You gotta treat him like a rookie. He's 25, right? Yeah, he's a young guy 471 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,000 I mean, he's using a new ball for a whole entire season 472 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,120 the way he goes about pitching like he has to he has to 473 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:59,880 Like there's film right film goes into pitching too. You gotta know what the weaknesses of people you have to scatter 474 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,920 Yeah, it's a whole big process. So to me 475 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,120 Like you said, everyone's gonna freak out 476 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,480 but if you 477 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:12,200 If you have a brain you'll wait till I say year two or the end of the season if you watch kodai senga 478 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:17,480 He was kind of iffy at first but second half he was fantastic saying it was elite 479 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:24,600 Yeah, he actually like if you compare the first and half second half stats so different like he he was so good in the second half 480 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:30,440 He was an everybody up just like that. It just takes time. You know, even when you darvish first came over 481 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,600 He had a hard time with the ball, right? He was very open about it. It happens 482 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:39,400 Of course you darvish, you know has been up and down in the major league, but he's always a great picture 483 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:44,040 He's still a good pitcher though, right? He's still a great pitcher. I people just needed a 484 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:50,680 Chalup, I think it's I think since he mentioned he's gonna be amazing for a long time. Yeah, I agree 485 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,400 I think Yamamoto will be fine, but I think people need to be patient with them 486 00:33:53,640 --> 00:34:00,120 Um, I just wanted to point out that I think the media will get impatient if he does struggle early or you know during stretches during his career 487 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,680 um, I think 488 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,120 Uh since you mentioned darvish, I wanted to point this out. There was a report that came out yesterday 489 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:11,160 You might know more about it than I do about darvish signing with the podgeries and saying to aj preller 490 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,160 Who's their gm that he? 491 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:18,120 As part of him signing there. He wanted preller to go out and get these japanese free agents 492 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,760 He wanted them to go after otani wanted to go after yamamoto 493 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,560 And now they've kind of failed to do that 494 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,560 What do you think that means for darvish and the podgeries and japanese free agents as a whole? 495 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,560 Um 496 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,560 It's kind of weird 497 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:40,140 That nothing happened like that. Matsui was the best that they could do right? It was even an offer for yamamoto 498 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:46,760 Maybe they'll go after sasaki. I'm I think it'll go ahead and so lucky. Yeah, right. I just can't afford it 499 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:53,480 I mean, it's kind of cool that darvish wanted to do that. And I mean, I don't blame him because their pitching is great 500 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,880 like 501 00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:02,440 Like the best the best of japanese pitching was shown in the world series in the wbc, right? Yeah it was 502 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,400 Like who who shelled japan? Nobody 503 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,000 Yes, homerun's couple here and there mexico came close 504 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:15,080 Mexico almost closed giant. No, they didn't they didn't show it. Yeah, like nobody like nobody like just 505 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,040 Run us like bring us up, right? So it's like 506 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,920 The best of the best from japan is worth paying 507 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,960 And so, um, I think that's what you darvish saw as well 508 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,920 But it's kind of strange that nothing happened 509 00:35:29,240 --> 00:35:34,040 Especially because if that's what does like one of the things if if the gm said yeah, we're gonna do that 510 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,920 And the best they can do is matsui. It's a little strange 511 00:35:37,720 --> 00:35:41,240 But maybe next year they'll go after more when they have a little bit more freedom 512 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,960 Yeah, I wonder if you know matsui 513 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,040 I'm sure they probably had their eye on him for a while 514 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:52,280 But I almost wonder if otani and namamoto going to la made them give matsui more money 515 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,200 More money than maybe they had originally thought because they're like crap 516 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,040 We 517 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,880 You know, we said this to darvish and we want to make a splash here in the international market 518 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,280 um 519 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,840 What are we what's the focus here, you know, um 520 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:12,120 You know what i'm saying when it comes to the positive they say they they say they go after 521 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,480 Uh when yamamoto and otani get signed to la 522 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,240 And I think the pressure kind of gets back on them. They're like crap. We lost out on two guys 523 00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:25,080 We had our eyes on then they have to go right out of almost desperation go after matsui a little bit more than maybe they 524 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,480 Wanted to just to have a sliver of a chance to get other free agents in the future 525 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,920 That's a good it's a good thought I wonder because I don't even know what to do is coming out 526 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,040 That's the thing is I don't even know he was gonna come out 527 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:43,160 And so he got signed almost like oh like a week before he was about to get signed 528 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:48,520 Yeah, like that was just imanaga yamamoto and otani was the main guys that were coming 529 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,520 And then matsui came out of nowhere. I was like wait what? 530 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:56,040 Yeah, so i'm curious to see how they all perform. I think it's going to be fascinating to watch 531 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,360 I think they all have a lot of promise and talent 532 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,840 uh, it sounds like um 533 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:05,800 Matsui will be kind of a rogue guy in san diego. I know that they've had here the last couple years haters 534 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,800 Not going to get to resign there. Um 535 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,520 So it'll be interesting to see, you know, I hope he goes to the rangers 536 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:14,200 hater 537 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,200 I hope he does. Yeah 538 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,040 You know, yeah, so while we have we're just gonna we'll wrap up here in just a couple minutes 539 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,320 But I did want to touch on something. We have some breaking news live during the show 540 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,120 Uh, I wanted to wait on so 541 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,600 I guess two different signings. Uh, the reds just signed frankie montas 542 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:35,720 Who was a yankee for a brief a brief part of his career. He was a he was in oakland a for a while 543 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,360 um, and then I think he was good for 544 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,160 And then a yankee for a year and a half, but he was injured all of last season 545 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,360 Uh, he just went to the reds for one year 16 million 546 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,320 Uh, and then the big one from jeff passon 547 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:54,360 Uh, the atlanta braves acquire chris sale from the red sox 548 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,640 For von grisham and a couple other players 549 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,360 Von grisham is a highly touted prospect 550 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:05,960 And chris sale just can't seem to really stay healthy, but it's an interesting pickup for the braves 551 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,960 they had a bit of a log jam with 552 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:13,160 Um infield talent and depth and that's why I think they they shipped off grisham, but uh 553 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,040 They got sale now so sale can stay healthy. He's always good 554 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,840 Um, I still don't think the braves can win because they're pitching this little trash 555 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,440 You think so 556 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,160 Yeah, I don't know 557 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:32,440 It's just so 558 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:37,080 Nothing. I think they need they need max fried or whatever his name is like he's good, right? 559 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,520 Yeah 560 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,840 I don't know. I think they still need one more guy. That's 561 00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:46,440 I think I think they need one more guy. I don't think sale sale doesn't really move the needle for me 562 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,840 I mean, I had an alpha right? 563 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:53,560 Right. I had him in fantasy a couple different times last year and he would he can give you a couple good starts in a row 564 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,080 He can get you some case 565 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,920 Uh, but he's not really the kind of guy you want to rely on for a full season 566 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,320 I don't remember the last time he pitched an entire year 567 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,520 When he's on he can be good, but he's getting older 568 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:09,400 as bodies wearing down on him, he's had a lot of different injuries that have kind of piled up so I 569 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,560 I 570 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:17,720 Don't know how I feel about that for the braves red sox get their big prospect and they can ship away a massive contract. So hey 571 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,440 definitely 572 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:25,740 And they signed Gio Lido yesterday who stinks it was garbage 573 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:31,320 Yeah, Gio Lido really not that guy. Well, they'll figure it out. All right. All right, so 574 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,520 We're gonna have to wrap it up soon. But yeah, go ahead catch 575 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,360 We can we can talk about there's a couple other things that we could have talked about today 576 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,600 You know, like I would have loved to talk more about the os but no we'll have a we'll have a time where we talk 577 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,120 Specifically about it's the offseason. Yeah, we got time man. We got time 578 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:52,280 But uh, I want to talk about the team that you've been most disappointed in uh during this offseason 579 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,560 Blue jays cubs 580 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,120 Okay, why? 581 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:05,560 Why cubs spent a ridiculous amount of money just to fire david ross and hire cred council from their division rival 582 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:11,240 um, they gave him the most money a manager's ever gotten in major league baseball and they 583 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,880 oh 584 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:19,000 Let me I don't even know about this stuff really i'm not a big gm news guy 585 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,720 Um, let me look. Oh wait, is it the guy that used to play for the brewers? 586 00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:27,240 I'm not sure he used to play them, but he their cubs are paying him eight million a season 587 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,880 Which is the most the manager's ever gotten? 588 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,280 Uh in pro baseball so and they did that and then they just haven't done anything 589 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:40,360 Um, they were rumored to be in on otani at first and then they were ruled out same thing with the blue jays 590 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,360 Do they have a big market? 591 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,480 The cubs? Yeah, massive market cubs are a huge brand 592 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:50,280 They they have money if they want to go and why aren't they spending it because I think they're just I don't know what they're waiting on 593 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:51,400 I'm not sure 594 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:56,840 But they're not spending it on bellinger. They're not spending it on schroen like these great players they had that helped them be 595 00:40:57,720 --> 00:40:59,720 better than they should have been last year 596 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:05,160 Yeah, i'm with you. I'm with you. I think the blue jays and the cubs are my two most disappointing 597 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,640 I'm an osu! fan. So I'd love to see the blue jays not do anything 598 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:14,520 Uh, but for years they've talked about how they've how they have money and they want to spend it, but they've just not spent it 599 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:20,520 Um, they just like they have these young guys. They have bo they have flad. I mean and they've got some 600 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:26,120 And they've got some guys in the outfield, but they just don't spend the money bar show had a bad year last year 601 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,920 Until they traded away moreno. Um, he actually good 602 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,400 Was varsha okay? I mean like he showed signs 603 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:40,200 Yeah, that's why they traded for him. Um, let me look up if I can pull up his uh, 604 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:46,440 Because I I could not understand why everybody was so hyped up about this guy who was hitting like 220 all year 605 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,840 Yeah, he hit 220 homers 606 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,840 161 rubies 607 00:41:51,860 --> 00:41:55,820 674 ops like below average in every category bar show 608 00:41:56,300 --> 00:41:58,940 Um, so that's why like he wasn't that good 609 00:41:59,500 --> 00:42:00,940 the blue jays 610 00:42:00,940 --> 00:42:04,380 And cubs, I think in my opinion would be the two best fits for bellinger 611 00:42:04,460 --> 00:42:08,060 But the blue jays just went out last week and signed uh, kevin keir meyer 612 00:42:08,620 --> 00:42:11,980 They resigned him back to their team. And so their outfield is kind of full 613 00:42:12,700 --> 00:42:16,620 Um, so I don't really know where bellinger fits. I think bellinger could go back to chicago 614 00:42:16,620 --> 00:42:19,660 I don't really know where he's gonna go bellinger period. That's a whole nother topic 615 00:42:20,220 --> 00:42:22,140 Uh, because he's a hard one 616 00:42:22,140 --> 00:42:24,540 Yeah, he had a fluke not I don't want to say a fluke year 617 00:42:24,540 --> 00:42:28,300 But he had a couple of really horrid seasons and then he had a resurgence this last year 618 00:42:28,300 --> 00:42:35,500 So I think he figured out that like he yes, he has power but he can play better when he hits for contact, right? 619 00:42:35,660 --> 00:42:41,740 Yeah, that's what I look at. He was he was smarter with this hitting. He wasn't just trying to yak one over the fence 620 00:42:42,060 --> 00:42:43,020 Right 621 00:42:43,020 --> 00:42:46,460 And that's why everyone's like oh his um, well exit velocity is so low 622 00:42:46,540 --> 00:42:49,500 I'm like it's because he hit for average like he did a good job like he 623 00:42:50,220 --> 00:42:54,860 He saved that cup scene. Honestly, he did he still had 26 bombs last year. I'm looking at 624 00:42:55,740 --> 00:42:58,060 Right. Yes, it was so he stole a match 625 00:42:58,860 --> 00:43:04,220 Yeah, it was insane how good he was so if he can do that, he'll get paid good money if he can do that elsewhere 626 00:43:04,780 --> 00:43:08,940 Uh, I just don't know where teams kind of stand on because it seems like one of those things where 627 00:43:08,940 --> 00:43:14,380 This guy struggled mightily for a couple years and the cubs take a one-year flyer on him and he does great 628 00:43:14,460 --> 00:43:15,980 So it's like okay 629 00:43:15,980 --> 00:43:17,580 Why did he do that? 630 00:43:17,580 --> 00:43:19,580 all of a sudden, you know, but 631 00:43:20,220 --> 00:43:22,220 I don't I I keep I 632 00:43:22,300 --> 00:43:26,060 Keep hoping that he goes to the giants like I want the giants to sign more people like I want the guys 633 00:43:26,540 --> 00:43:28,540 I don't want giants to sign 634 00:43:28,620 --> 00:43:31,900 As many people as they can like I want him to sign bellinger. They should sign stroman 635 00:43:31,980 --> 00:43:36,860 They should sign everybody else. That's good on the rest of the market because they need it like because they have jung ho lee 636 00:43:36,860 --> 00:43:38,220 Nobody 637 00:43:38,220 --> 00:43:41,020 Jung ho lee is not really they paid him 116 million 638 00:43:41,500 --> 00:43:46,700 Um, i'm no expert but the kbo is not quite to the quality of major league baseball 639 00:43:47,260 --> 00:43:52,220 Um, so I think he's you're not going to get the same stats out of him as he was putting up in the kbo 640 00:43:52,620 --> 00:43:57,260 He might get he's a contact guy and he has some good speed and he can play good defense. He's not a power guy 641 00:43:57,820 --> 00:44:03,680 Um, so if you think he can be at the top of your lineup for a while then sure maybe 116 is justifiable 642 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,640 Uh for a guy that money like they're not paying anybody 643 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:11,280 That's the thing about the giants that they have money because nobody is costing any money because you have 644 00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:16,400 There's nobody to sell tickets in new in san francisco, right? 645 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,240 Yeah, it's such a great organization like quinn, right my friend 646 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,360 Yes, that's like he loved diehard giants fan 647 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:29,600 He's like I would love all these players, but nobody wants to come to san franc because it's a terrible hitting park 648 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,800 Right. Yeah, and so 649 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,840 You know what? He just wants to come like there's no reason to come to san francisco 650 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:40,000 Like there's no there's no signs that they're going to win the world series in time 651 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:47,680 So I know I I think they're in an interesting spot. I think the padres and the diamondbacks are definitely in better positions than the giants right now 652 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:52,800 Uh, the nls as a whole. I think it's just a race for second. I think the dodgers will run away with that one 653 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,760 Um, I think it's just a race for who can be second place 654 00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,480 But I mean as we saw the diamondbacks any team can you know get to the world series? 655 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,200 No matter what spot you're in in the playoffs rangers did it too 656 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,520 um, so 657 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,640 Just one of those things but we are at time 658 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:15,280 We probably a little bit scuffed of an episode, you know, we had my rumba start in like the six-minute mark 659 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,720 Uh, and then we had kenji's mom barge in there a little bit later 660 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,360 um, yeah, you know, so 661 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,480 Um, but that's what you've come to love and expect about this show 662 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:30,080 Um, it's gonna be raw it's gonna be real and it's gonna be fun and hopefully a little bit enjoyable 663 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:35,920 At least a little bit enjoyable if you've gotten to this point very often at least is authentic. Yeah, that's a good word 664 00:45:36,720 --> 00:45:41,280 Uh, but yeah, so same thing goes with the football show. We're gonna try to do this on a more regular basis 665 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:46,240 Hopefully we can get brady and joe on and we can talk get their opinions on what their teams have done this off season 666 00:45:46,240 --> 00:45:50,160 Joe wants to get on the soapbox about the rangers. And of course, I need to do my 667 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,880 Update and talk about the offseason 668 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:59,440 Um, your resolution is to do podcasts once a week. So there you go. That's our new year's resolution 669 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,240 But we'll see how new his resolutions pan out 670 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:04,640 but 671 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:10,400 Uh, yeah, we appreciate you guys for listening. Um, and then with that being said look at you guys next week 672 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,400 Kenji, you want to sign us off anything you want to say? 673 00:46:14,240 --> 00:46:16,240 Oh, man 674 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:18,720 Go dodgers 675 00:46:18,720 --> 00:46:20,720 Go dodgers, you heard of course 676 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,200 Go otani yamamoto 677 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:30,000 Yeah, all right. Thanks everybody 678 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:50,000 You