Welcome, welcome back everybody to a special midweek episode of Four Guys and Still No Clue.
We're just going through, we're doing a playoff team tier list.
We're going to go through every playoff team, I guess every real team, probably not much about the Royals and the A's,
but we're going to go through every potential playoff team and we're going to rank them and see who really has a chance and who doesn't.
Spoiler, the O's are probably going to be pretty high up there. Let's get into it.
Kenji, I love your dance moves. Yeah, welcome back everybody. We just barely finished recording the episode you guys just got on Monday.
We're going to drop this in the middle of the week. We're going to go through and do a little tier list of all the playoff teams.
We're just going to start from scratch. We're going to name the different tiers and then we're going to organize the teams into them all 30 style.
Should we just hop right into it? Let's get into it. Everybody's doing good. We just finished recording. Everybody's still good? Kenji, you still good?
Yeah. Kenji was eating watermelon in the most violent, ferocious way possible off camera.
I'm sure the viewers would love to see that one. Yeah, we'll do maybe a Kenji ASMR down the line.
I can fill a future.
Okay. All right. Let us know in the comments if you want Kenji watermelon eating.
I eat well. Wow. What are we doing? You know what? Okay, Wander Franco. Let's go straight through.
What do we want to name the tiers? D tier? I feel like D tier could either be Tim Anderson or Wander Franco's decision making.
But Wander Franco's decision making might be a little too long. So we could stick to Tim Anderson. Tim Anderson's hands.
Let's do T.A.'s chin. Yep, I like it. T.A.'s chin, I like it. All right, there we go.
So for S tier, should we do J.Ram's hands then or? No, that's S tier. Come on. Yeah. No, that's what he said. He said S tier.
Yeah. J.Ram's hands. J.Ram's hands. Me, his J.Ram's right hook. Yeah, there you go.
J.Ram's right hook. Okay. C tier, should we just go like probably out of it? So then what's a good thing for that?
Wander's MLB career. Wander's career.
B.E. since this is the middle, we should probably make this like a normal term so people can refer to it.
Am I supposed to be editing this? If you want as you go, but you know, me too, because we're just going to do it.
I'm the one that's recording. Joe's the one that's doing all the real fun stuff. If you want to follow along, you can do it too. Yeah, follow along at home, everybody.
Yeah, go to www.tiermaker.com. There you go.
Yeah. B tier, Joe, any ideas for B tier? Just something mid? I don't know. Just like above average chains or I don't know.
Mid, mid. I was just saying in the hunt. In the hunt. Okay. In the hunt.
And then A tier, like it could be probably in.
It could be squeaking there. Guys or teams squeaking their way in. But squeaking. It's like big chance.
Yeah.
Making the playoffs or postseason. I don't even know.
I'm trying to come up with something corny or something funny.
Gary Sanchez in garbage type.
Jrem's hands is the first one. That could be A and then S tier could be like Castellanos during a tragedy. Yes.
I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. I'm in.
Let's just do that then. I love it. I'm ready. Tragedy and Castellanos. Yep.
Okay. Joe, who's the first team up on the list? Who are we covering first? So we got the Yankees up and...
Tim Anderson's chin. Lock it in. That was quick.
Yankees aren't making the playoffs. Sorry guys. We have some Yankee friends. Not happy.
I mean do we need to elaborate any more? They just lost A straight. Hopefully losing more.
Hopefully. One can dream. Yeah. Agreed. Okay. Kenji, anything on the Yankees?
They should quit.
Yeah. Alright. Tim Anderson's chin. Yankees. Alright. Next up we got the Seattle Mariners.
Is this team right in between Jrem and in the hunt? Yeah. I think. I do. Cause they're in it right now.
But it just kinda depends. I think they, unless Toronto or Boston kick it in gear, they'll stay.
That's the problem. I think in the hunt is where I want to put them. They were so bad for so much of the year.
I can't, I can't, even though they played great lately, I can't in good conscience say that they're like a consistent threat.
Oh yeah. I agree. In the hunt. Okay. In the hunt. Next up, Tampa Bay.
That's gonna be Jrem's hands. Yeah. It's gotta be. They were so hot, but they kind of flatlined a little bit.
But we'll see. I worry about them in the playoffs cause they've had so many injuries, especially just starting pitching.
But they're the Rays, you never know. They could call up some dude from the same building tomorrow and he pitches to a 1.2 yard radius and everything.
Yeah. That pitching program is just unbelievable. Rays are outstanding. The Rays are really good. They're outstanding.
Jrem's hands. Okay. That's up Blue Jays.
I think they go right with Seattle though, cause it's one of those where one of them is going to squeak in.
Yeah. I think Toronto really should play a lot better than they have. They should be playing better than they have.
That's where I agree. All right. Next up Miami. Are they in the hunt? They're in the hunt. They are in the hunt.
What are they doing the same as Seattle? They've kind of been on a decline too though.
But they're like up and down. Seattle's just like a click.
Josh Bell's playing good. Jake Berger. They swept the Yanks too. So I mean you can never count them out.
They were really bad after the trade deadline, but after that they've been picking it up. So you can never count them out.
Yeah. We'll put them in the hunt. So that was Seattle right? Wait, where did you guys put the Blue Jays?
Blue Jays were in the hunt. That's B tier. Cardinals. Cardinals.
Not for this year. They're lower than Tim Ayers. Yeah. There should be another two.
I mean, I hate the Yankees, but the Yankees, they should be in Wanderer's career.
You know what? They should. I don't agree with that, but I think...
Let's be honest about this. They are on their way out the door, but they're not like...the door isn't completely shut.
The Cardinals have been so bad, the door is completely shut. Yeah. It's just like Wanderer's career, you know?
Yeah. Like most likely it's most likely over, but you never know. Maybe not. Yeah.
Maybe just not quite yet. But maybe not. Yeah. All right. Next up. I really hate this team. We got the Houston Astros.
That's a J-Ram for me. Yeah. It's got to be. Unanimous. I think that's an easy one.
It's got to be. Their pitching is good on any...on half-decent day. Yeah.
Pitching talk about their offense, too. It's ridiculous. Is the J-Ram below the Nick Castellanos thing? Yep.
Yes. Yeah. So those Castellanos is your S tier. That's like the best of the best.
J-Ram is going to be like teams that should be in the playoffs. Could make a run.
You want to put the Astros with the very top? No. Because they're like, oh...
They just got swept on the Seattle. That's true. But their Ross are so good, though.
It is. It is good if they can avoid injury. I think J-Ram is good for them. Yep. I do.
And then what was it? In the Hunt was just like middle of like you guys are on the borderline of a wild card.
You guys have struggled out of the end of the All-Star break. And then Timur is just...you're out.
You're gone. You're gone. TKO. Get out of here. Yep. Joe, who's next?
Next up, we got Atlanta straight to Castellanos. That's the easiest one. Yep.
This next one's easy too. We got Baltimore. That's a Castellanos.
That's going to...no, that's going to... Tim Anderson's chin.
30 games over 500 is different, man. 30 over... They're different.
They go like Nick Castellanos and Tragedy. I don't even know if I spelled Castellanos right.
Totally not. Castellanos. Castellanos. Yeah, I got it right. Gave some grief.
Yeah, I mean, I could see them going in J-Ram just because I think frankly, they will be not favored.
They won't be favored in playoff games. Like I can see Vegas not liking them in playoff games.
You think it's because of your starting pitching? Yeah. It's just like kind of mid. Absolutely. Yeah.
On the side note, did you guys see Kyle Bradish today tied Garrett Cole for the AL lead in ERA?
Congratulations. Yeah. Thanks. I appreciate it. Was it like the two sixes?
3.03, I think. That's the highest right now? The best ERA in AL. That's the lowest. That's crazy.
Well, Garrett Cole did just get six runs put up on him by the Red Sox. That'll probably do it.
Yeah. No, that's the lowest ERA this year. No, we don't feel bad for the Yankees.
We never feel bad for the Yankees. Not at all. Absolutely not. Okay. Moving on.
We got Cleveland, the Guardians. Dude, they've fallen off our game. They're six pack.
They're the same as the Yanks in this total. Send them to Wander's career. Yeah.
They really could do it, but ever since they had a lot of talent. They sold at the deadline.
Downhill. Not even the trade deadline since the All-Star break. Yeah.
That's with Josh and they're being hurt now for them. They just got no hope. Yeah, that is hurt.
Yeah. It's tough. All right. Next up. Moving on. We got Colorado. These are some easy ones coming up.
That's a check. Wow. Give it up. Very bottom, right? Rockies. Very bottom. Yep. Rockies. Very bottom.
D tier hurt. Yeah. Next up Detroit. Ooh, the Detroit Tigers have been hot though.
I think they keep seven and six. They're not. They're 12 games out of a wild card.
They're not in contention at all. I still think we should put them in Wander's career.
I think they're not doing it. They're not going anywhere. They're not going anywhere at all.
They're not. But why would we put it in? They're more. They are more competitive.
The Yankees or the Guardians right now. Yeah. And the Cardinals, which by mile.
Like they're competitive right now. Sure. Okay. I'll put them in Wander's career for now.
We might have to adjust. Yeah, we can adjust. That's the thing. That's kind of crazy.
But whatever. Yeah, that's a hot take. I'm not saying they're doing anything.
I'm just saying they're more competitive than the teams at the bottom. That's fair.
That's fair. Okay. Kansas City. Tim Anderson's chin. Yep. See you guys. Sorry. See you.
All right. Next up, Milwaukee. They have the division right now.
They do have the division. It's close to Cincinnati, but not as close as you think.
I still think they're going to end up with the division. I don't think they're really going to do anything in the postseason.
So I'd put them in right in the middle. Is it a J-RAM though? No, I don't think it is.
Are we positive about that? No, but they have the division.
Joe and Kenji, what's your take? Are the Brewers in the hunt team or are they like in a tier one?
I think they're in the hunt. Yeah. They got. Okay. They're competitive on occasionally.
I think they're starting pitching Bermond and Woodruff. Oh yeah. I think they can make a run.
And Freddie pitching the way he has been. But the lineup isn't going to kill anybody.
Okay. All right. I'll go in the hunt for this one. I'll go in the hunt. I will. I'll concede.
Are you thinking of doing a J-RAM for Milwaukee, Gabe? I was. I was considering J-RAM for Milwaukee.
Because the thing is they have the division. They do. But it's the NL mid. It is the NL mid.
So they're still going to make the postseason. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. They will.
But to me that doesn't mean that much though, right? It's just they don't have much fight in the postseason.
They don't have a lot of firepower. They're going to have to go up against the best wild card team.
And they're not better than the Blue Jays. Yeah, you're right. I mean, they're only three up on the Cubs for first place in that division.
I think that's the same thing. The Cubs are really hot right now. So they're going to go cold sometime. Yeah.
And since the Cubs are just putting it together at a perfect time. Yeah, since he's there too. Since he's falling apart.
All right. You know what? We'll just go. We'll go with. Although they're probably going to win the division. Let's just go with in the hunt.
Okay. That makes sense for me. Okay. Next up, Angels.
Give him a chin. All right. No, they're on Wander's career. Wander's career. Aren't they in the hunt?
No, not really. No, no. They are. He had an over took him. Oh, they're gone. It would take a miracle.
It's a wrap. Eight and a half back in the stages. His name is Mike Trout. Yeah, that's. And him I trust.
Even when Mike Trout comes back, there's just not enough time. Yeah. They're on their way.
I trust. Not even going to look at this next one. That's an easy one. Oakland straight to T.H.'s chin.
Yeah. Same for the next one. Phillies. Absolutely. Is that wrong?
Phillies are in the hunt. In the hunt. I can absolutely make a case for JRAM. Let's hear it.
The only reason that we aren't in contention for our division right now is because it's the Atlanta Braves.
Look at what they're doing. Like, we can't even compete with that.
But when we play them, we're beating them head to head in our series. Against the Atlanta Braves. Yes.
We are winning our head to head matchup against the best team in baseball in our own division.
And they're the only reason we can't climb anywhere. We're 13 games behind them. And we're in second place.
It says that Braves are 4-2 against you guys this year.
Since when? I feel like we play so well against them. That's the thing.
We have two more series to go.
Okay, let's just say this. This is how we should do it. Do you guys think the Phillies are better than Seattle, Marlins, Toronto, and Milwaukee?
Absolutely no. I think they're better than Toronto.
I think Toronto is better. I think they're up there with the Rays and the Astros.
Absolutely. Are we kidding? We made the world's first question here.
Yeah, last year doesn't mean jack crap, Brady.
Yeah, it still shows the depth and talent we have.
They can go on and run. I just don't think at this stage...
We got caught around this time last year and look where we made it.
Brady, at this stage, I just don't trust them, bro. I don't.
They are 3-up. I can see the case you're trying to make. I just don't think they're on par with the likes of Tampa and Houston.
They're not a feared team like Houston is, right?
Everybody fears playing Houston.
You see that lineup? Are you kidding?
Give me two more good weeks and then I can put you up there, Brady.
Yeah, give me a whole month of Trey Turner remembering how to play baseball again and then I think it works.
I mean, that's one player on our team.
Is Trey Turner hot? Yes, absolutely, because that guy is a game changer.
That's one player on our team, though.
Yeah, but he makes such a big difference, though.
We threw a no-hitter last week.
It says you're 5-5 in your last 10.
So did Houston. That's the thing. Houston and the Phillies threw a no-hitter.
I'm looking at the Phillies schedule.
Hey, hey, Hermann, whatever that dude on the Yankees threw a no-hitter.
The worst guy you've ever seen just to play a game. Yeah.
So you might lose the series to the Nationals. You split with the Blue Jays. You lost the series to the Twins.
That'll do it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Give me two weeks of real solid play and then I will feel good about it because you did make the World Series.
But two out of three to the Twins, splitting with the Blue Jays and losing a series to the Nationals is just not like Tampa and Houston behavior.
I don't know. I mean, yeah. I don't know.
I don't know. At the Pirates, you lost two out of three. Didn't Tampa lose the series to the Oakland A's?
Yeah, the Braves did earlier this year. I'm just saying, we're talking of late.
You guys can absolutely make a run. You swept Tampa last month. We talked about that on the show.
But then you went immediately from sweeping Tampa. You lost two out of three to Miami.
You lost two out of three to the Brewers. You lost two out of three to the Guardians.
Then you got two out of three from the O's and then lost two out of three to the Pirates.
I don't think I just see any consistency. Yeah, I don't see any consistency.
It's kind of tough. Yeah. Okay. So I think we can all agree.
The top four is the consistent winner. I will never agree to this, but you can put them there.
On Brady's list, they're J-Ram, but on our list, they're not. It's in the hunk.
All right. Final answer. Okay. Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh.
Yeah, they're... They have Paul Skeens.
Brady, you want to make a case for Paul Skeens?
It's Pittsburgh. All right. I'm going to say, I'm going to go with Wander.
For Pittsburgh? Well, they're not Kansas City, Oakland caliber.
Yeah. Pause. Yeah. Nope. They're pretty bad.
Joseph. All right. Joseph. Momo.
I just like the Pirates. Joseph, no way.
Hey, you can make a case. You can make a case for them.
Minus 94 on differential. All right.
55 and 69. They're 55 and 69.
But yeah, they're bad. They're literally... Joe, for reference,
they are seven games above Colorado for the worst record in the National League.
Okay. But then there's also Kansas City who has 40 wins.
They have 16 more wins than Kansas City.
And Oakland has 34.
Yeah. And the Pirates got 55.
Are we saying they're on their way out the door or they just... they're done?
I think they're done, man. I'm sorry.
They're done, but they're not as bad as Oakland or Kansas City.
That's all I'm saying.
I don't think they're...
I don't think the cards are on Tim Anderson's chin and I have the same record.
I think Pittsburgh stays down there. I don't want to get held up on the Pittsburgh Pirates.
San Diego Padres, Wander's career.
Yeah.
I think that's a gimme.
That hurts to put them there though.
I know. They should not be there. They should be at J-Ram or the Castellanos level easily.
But based on how they're playing and where they're at, you can't do that.
Rangers. Ooh.
I want to hear what everyone has to say.
Joe's going to hold his...
Before the All-Star break, 100% without a doubt, I would have put them in Nick Castellanos' rank.
Before?
Yeah, but right now, I just don't know.
Why do you think that, Kenji? I want to hear you out.
I mean, when I watch them play, it's like most of the lineups just forgot how to hit.
It seems like... the consistency of the Rangers offense, I don't know what the stats are or what...
But I'm sure you guys are hitting compared to the first half of the season is just very different.
It has to be.
Yeah, it has been different. And part of that has been due to injury.
Yeah.
And so if we can stay healthy, I think we're S-tier.
Bottom line, I think that's it.
I think that they are going to be... I'm going to put them at J-Ram.
Losing three straight to Milwaukee, who we also put in the hunt, is not a good look. And with their injuries, I don't think I can put them...
Alright. Well, we swept Tampa and Miami.
But we swept Tampa, too.
Come on.
We swept...
You guys also lost two to three out of Miami.
Yeah, but we beat Miami earlier in the year, too.
What's your point?
We swept Miami.
You're fine with me.
We played five different series against Miami.
I love it.
You guys played one.
I feel like, and I'm going to say like, kind of like the complete raw. So like, I don't know, because they have a better record than with Houston, right?
Yeah, they do.
Right now.
They did by two and a half games.
What about the Rays? What's their record compared to the Rays?
They're below... They're behind Texas.
Here's the thing. We either have to put Houston in the A-tier or Texas in the A-tier.
Because they're in the same division. They're fighting against each other in the regular season.
Joe, I don't disagree.
Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. Can I time out?
Yeah.
Real quick.
That's like saying, oh, we're in the same division as the Atlanta Braves. Let's move us up a tier.
But it's not two and a half games. It's nine games for you.
Yeah.
Yeah, I know. But you're saying the same thing.
But not really, because they're two and a half games back.
That's like saying everyone in the A-East should be up a tier from everyone else.
At least.
I don't know.
No, because two and a half games is very important.
I think there's J-Ram for me. I just don't...
I agree.
They're four and six in their last 10. They've lost four straight.
You guys just don't hit the team.
They lost four straight, but they also won eight straight before that.
That's true, though.
Texas is good. I have your schedule up right here.
I don't think they're as scary as they were at the beginning of the year.
It was because of injury. But all our players are going to come back.
If you beat the White Sox at home, you swept the White Sox at home,
the Marlins at home, and then went to Oakland and won two out of three.
With all due respect, that's not like...
If you would have won...
We also won to the Giants. We won two out of three from the Giants.
We swept Tampa before that as well.
That's not an easy one.
Listen, I'm not hating. Maybe I am a little bit.
I just think they're jaded.
Yeah, you are.
I just don't... I don't think they're in Casiano's tier yet.
Because they haven't shown the tendency to...
They have these big spurts where they rake and they can blow anybody out.
But then they also have them where they get swept by Milwaukee.
And you're like, what happened?
Sure. All right.
But if the injuries weren't there, I would probably...
Yeah, if the injuries weren't there...
That's where it's hard.
Because you can't put it in injuries because that's not fair.
Because there's nothing you can do about it.
If we got a foot foster, they would be unreal.
Right now, they would be so good.
At one point, I think we had Seeger, Haim, and Iovaldi on the IL.
That already is just a huge blow.
That was Joe's roster.
That was my roster in fantasy.
Yeah.
I don't think anyone else belongs in S tier.
I'm going to just say that right now.
I think one more belongs in S tier.
Yeah, we got to do one more.
I think one more belongs in S tier.
I think that's even two Cooprance leaders.
The Red Sox.
Beautiful.
In the hunt for the Red Sox.
Yeah.
Yep.
Does anybody disagree?
They just swept the Yankees.
Does anybody disagree with Red Sox?
No, they're in the hunt for sure.
Nope.
They're not consistent enough to put them anywhere higher.
I don't worry about them making a run in the playoffs,
but I think they could sneak in with the three wild card teams.
Dodgers.
It's weird to prove in the hunt because they're such a terrible roster,
but they grind.
Dude.
Their pitching is really good.
I think they're betting against Freddie Freeman and that pitching stuff.
Well, see, my thing is they were so bad to start the year that you, I don't know.
Another hawk.
They just won like another hawk.
How about the Dodgers?
Oh, I know.
The Dodgers.
We're going Dodgers.
Wait, you guys got the Giants?
We'll do them next.
Dodgers.
Oh, okay.
I just said the Giants in the hunt because they're...
They said Giants in the hunt.
I think the Dodgers are an S right now.
It's crazy.
They're in the wild card currently.
Yeah, see, so Giants, I think they're in the hunt.
Giants are in the hunt.
Dodgers are S.
Dodgers.
Castellanos for sure.
Yeah.
It's a bigger hesitation than it is for the Braves and the Orioles.
It's like hesitant for me.
I don't know.
I think the Dodgers could have more of a case than the Braves.
I think the Dodgers could have more of a case than the O's.
The Dodgers are pretty...
I think they could win.
Yeah.
I think the Dodgers could win and that's fine.
I guess because they have such a veteran roster.
And in playoff time, you would really want a roster like that instead of a young group
of players.
Okay, all right.
I would get that, yeah.
I guess I'd say, yeah.
Okay.
There's the rest.
Pajas are S.
Diamondbacks.
Wander's career for me.
I mean, they're in the hunt though.
But if they didn't have such a good hot start.
They have a chance.
They have to be in the hunt.
Right now, we would be saying that they're 100% in Wander's career.
Yeah.
You have to say they're in the hunt.
Because they have such a good first half that we kind of have to put them into hunt.
Yeah, you're right.
If that wasn't there, they'd be a terrible team.
Right?
Not a terrible team, but good.
But who's to say they're going to be like this for the rest of the season?
They could always pick it back up.
They don't have any huge injuries.
Every player that was playing so hot is just so mid right now.
But that's baseball.
That's going to happen.
They always have to have spikes.
It's been like what?
A month plus now since the half goal start break has happened.
And it's like, they're all kind of going like Corbin's cooling off a ton.
Lourdes Grigoryel was like, cool off a serious ton.
Yeah, he has like his up and downs.
But like those were two guys that really drove that roster.
And it's just, I think it makes it easy because they're only game out.
I'm like, I have to put them in.
Still really?
Yeah, they're only game out.
I guess they kind of have to put them in the hunt, huh?
Yeah, you do.
They're just not making us a big, like a.
Yeah, I get where you're coming from.
They're not the newest topic.
They never have.
I don't fear them anymore.
I think they have less of a chance than the Mariners, Blue Jays, Phillies, Red Sox.
But I still think because they're a game out, I have to give them a shot.
Yeah.
That's right.
I'm going to give them a shot.
All right.
Moving on.
T's Chin, who agrees with me?
For the Mets?
Wander's career.
I'm going to put the Mets up.
Did you?
They're absolutely done though.
They're sold in the deadline.
I guess they're seven out.
They're done.
Never mind.
They're done.
I'm sorry.
The Twins are definitely.
The Twins are Wander's career.
Oh, actually, no.
Yeah, they're in the hunt.
Never mind.
They're winning the division.
I forgot what they were.
I think they have the highest strike gallery in the league.
But like, dude, they're pretty good when they play together though.
Their pitching is amazing.
That's why I have to leave.
At the same time, it's the AL mid.
Yeah, it is.
Okay.
So I'm not going to give them a shot.
I'm going to give them a shot.
I'm going to have to put them in the hunt.
They're going in the hunt.
In the hunt for sure.
Yeah.
Do I think they're going to do anything in the postseason?
No.
They can't do that, baby.
They're hitting.
They're hitting can't catch up with.
Yeah.
Caliber of the postseason pitching.
All right.
Chicago.
In the hunt.
They're in the hunt.
In the hunt.
I think these ones are going to be big games.
Chicago.
Washington.
Chicago has a playoff spot right now.
Washington.
Well, that's awesome.
That's awesome.
Sorry, Washington.
We have to be in the hunt too. Yeah
Yeah, I think because Cincinnati is a game back of a playoff spot Cubs have won twins or division leaders. Yeah, I
think
nationals
Nationals are
done
They are being the Phillies right now, they are doing that
I can't say anything
Alright, but hey, that's one of our like five series against them this year. Yeah, you put them down many times
Yeah, you play your division teams like so many times
My gosh nine times. Yeah
Thank you so long run exit a list for everybody that's
the Reds
Reds were in on
Really still there one day. What do you mean? Yeah, they're one
Oh
Think they're out the door Kenji. I think
So I don't know. Yeah, it was so fun seeing all the crews like popping up like who is he now?
They got everyone's out of the top McLean's cooled off
Joy Vato, is that his name?
Joy Vato is like 45
Yeah, I don't know if he's relevant. No one else is just so I don't know
Their pitching is horrendous green came back today eight runs he gave up on his first now
He like I don't know where they're gonna go. They can't pitch
See the thing is they could make the wild card spot, but they're not gonna do anything
So they still have to be in the hunt, but they can't do anything
Like do I think they're more competitive than an Angels roster? No, I would say the Angels are a better team more full around
They're a better all-around team because the Angels have pitching at least that is better than the Reds. Reds have awful pitching
awful bullpen actually Diaz is pretty good, but
missing pieces
Andrew Abbott exists
I
Know who else you got one. You know one starter. No, I'm just saying he's still as craft is. All right
Diaz is a great closer, but like I
Would say the pitching angels pitching the Angels pitching roster is better than the Reds. Kenji. I'm hitting. I don't know
Respectfully, I understand what you're saying, but I think you're wrong
If we were going if we're doing a talent tier list the
Be at the top
It's like teams in the Reds, right? Which is why I was a
I feel like so I don't like the Reds played a lot of really hard teams
Yeah, but let's be honest about this
This is a playoff team tier list and the Angels are six and a half back and the Reds are a game back
I don't think that's a good idea. The Reds
Yeah, that's Brewers
Yeah, okay then yeah, I guess it isn't hot isn't it that's a pretty you have to be in the
Game back
I get your case
Ellie first like when they just went on that they've always been about here the the Reds hype is definitely died
Yeah, that's hype is definitely died. But you know, they're still that's we're still not counting them out
Cuz they were gonna happen. I'll a day that Cruz the new Jesus Christ the minute he stepped on the field
40
Like that picture the picture like
Pimped in like 103 mile-hour fast Jordan
That was George Hicks or Jordan Hicks, yeah
Stood there. Yeah
Not much you can do with that. No, I know much you can do
Yeah, I think MLB just like magnifies Ellie's highlights
Which is like a few like he has he has some to be fair
But then they just like to complete disregard what kind of player he is when he's not doing hot and to be fair
He was electric at the start. He was so fun to watch but now he's you know, the hype is definitely died down
He's still fun to watch don't get me wrong. I love the guy but it's the exact same thing on my junior year
I got super hot the rare beginning when I first got to play and then I'm
Sounds about right. Yeah
Yeah
so running back through the to list and
The bottom tier D tier or Tim Anderson's chin. We have Cardinals Rockies Royals
Athletics Pirates Mets White Sox Nationals
Wander career which is C tier
Yankees Guardians Tigers Angels Padres
That's such a tough one to do. I think Detroit could yeah level but all of those guys not going into the year should have been contenders
Which is that for sure?
In the hunt Seattle Toronto, Miami and Milwaukee Philadelphia
Boston San Francisco
Arizona, Minnesota, Chicago
Cubs and then the Cincinnati Reds
All teams that are close all teams that have a good chance to make in the playoffs
J Rams here, which is the B tier
Or no a tear. Excuse me
Rays Astros and Rangers Rangers are kind of like my floater honorable mention team
And then Kostya knows here, which is s tier
Orioles Braves Dodgers
Any disputes Brady? I know you're I know you're still hot
Last time last chance to make a pitch
Yeah, anything I say about anything is just gonna get thrown out the window. Anyways, we did. Oh
All right
Let us know in the comments
Um around our social medias what uh, you guys think of the tier list who's making the playoffs who's not? I mean, I think it's safe to say
I don't think we made any crazy claims here. Like we didn't declare anybody did that isn't already
uh
I mean
Yeah, we can do like an official playoff prediction
You know the start of September and predict the actual like what the bracket's gonna look like but
Yeah, that's all I got Kenji. You want some to say?
Your free mic
Please come back sooner. Huh? Mike trout, please come back sooner
Angels are gone. Anyway, yeah just for him to hit 230. Yeah, just to finish eight
Lovely guy, but yeah in the flesh
All right, we suck amen Brady. What did you say at the end of last episode? It's a bad day to be a baseball
It's a it's always a bad day to be a baseball an even better day to be a yankie hater. That's right
That's what we love to hear. It's pretty big hater. We'll catch you guys next week