WEBVTT 00:00:03.359 --> 00:00:05.759 Hello, everyone, and welcome to this week's episode 00:00:05.759 --> 00:00:09.599 of Trinity Talks. My name is Kyla, and I am joined 00:00:09.599 --> 00:00:12.519 here by a couple of moms and one of their kids, 00:00:12.580 --> 00:00:14.439 and we're going to just chat all about Mother's 00:00:14.439 --> 00:00:17.879 Day and about what is so cool about moms and 00:00:17.879 --> 00:00:20.079 being a mom together. So thank you so much for 00:00:20.079 --> 00:00:22.960 joining me, folks. Maybe I'll just get you to 00:00:22.960 --> 00:00:25.600 start by doing some introductions. So maybe we 00:00:25.600 --> 00:00:27.100 can start over here. Do you want to introduce 00:00:27.100 --> 00:00:28.940 yourself? Say a little bit about you and your 00:00:28.940 --> 00:00:32.799 family? Sure. My name is Farida Sadat. My name 00:00:32.799 --> 00:00:37.479 is Farida. This is Avila. We're a family of four. 00:00:38.750 --> 00:00:40.929 I'm going to a party. You're going to go to a 00:00:40.929 --> 00:00:44.950 party later. Very cool. I have two kids. Yep. 00:00:45.270 --> 00:00:48.270 Evie Love and John Rumi. Two and four. Okay. 00:00:48.350 --> 00:00:54.740 And I'm also an entrepreneur. Okay. Yeah. We've 00:00:54.740 --> 00:00:58.200 been going to Trinity since when I was seven 00:00:58.200 --> 00:01:02.780 months pregnant. So since 2021 we started here. 00:01:02.979 --> 00:01:05.599 I was the first baby. You were the first baby. 00:01:05.680 --> 00:01:08.599 That's so cool. Okay, yeah, maybe we'll go over 00:01:08.599 --> 00:01:11.680 here. I'm going to the park now. Okay, cool. 00:01:11.799 --> 00:01:13.359 So maybe we're going to go over here now and 00:01:13.359 --> 00:01:16.060 we'll listen as Trish introduces herself. Okay, 00:01:16.060 --> 00:01:20.519 bye -bye. I'm Trish and we're also a family of 00:01:20.519 --> 00:01:25.370 four. No. I'm a pro musician. I play keys, synth, 00:01:25.430 --> 00:01:28.230 and piano here. Okay. Trini and my husband, Drew, 00:01:28.409 --> 00:01:32.450 he's on the parking team. And our oldest daughter, 00:01:32.549 --> 00:01:35.030 Jazzy, she's going to be 13 in August, and she's 00:01:35.030 --> 00:01:38.329 in junior youth. And our youngest daughter, it's 00:01:38.329 --> 00:01:39.650 our late daughter, Tione, and she would have 00:01:39.650 --> 00:01:42.109 been nine. Okay. Yeah. Thank you. And we've been 00:01:42.109 --> 00:01:45.390 here one year today. It's the anniversary. Okay. 00:01:45.629 --> 00:01:48.269 Yes. Congratulations. We're so glad you're with 00:01:48.269 --> 00:01:52.900 us. Yeah. Yeah. So maybe. Just want to start 00:01:52.900 --> 00:01:54.620 a little bit talking about, you know, what it's 00:01:54.620 --> 00:01:57.120 like being a mom and what is something that maybe 00:01:57.120 --> 00:01:59.560 was unexpected for you in motherhood? Something 00:01:59.560 --> 00:02:01.879 that you were like, I wasn't prepared for that 00:02:01.879 --> 00:02:04.680 or like I didn't expect that thing. No, no, no. 00:02:05.120 --> 00:02:07.500 Being a mom is the hardest job in the world, 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:12.639 bar none. I never, ever expected it to be this 00:02:12.639 --> 00:02:16.349 hard. And, you know, I'm a career woman. And 00:02:16.349 --> 00:02:19.009 out of everything that I've done, I would say 00:02:19.009 --> 00:02:21.650 being a mom is the hardest. I think if I were 00:02:21.650 --> 00:02:23.870 to just focus on being a mom, it would probably 00:02:23.870 --> 00:02:27.509 be much easier. But because my life is not just 00:02:27.509 --> 00:02:30.110 about being a mom, it's also about, you know, 00:02:30.110 --> 00:02:33.789 having my own business and making sure that I'm, 00:02:33.789 --> 00:02:37.590 you know, I still have that identity of my own 00:02:37.590 --> 00:02:44.629 as well. It's definitely, it's... it's, it's, 00:02:44.629 --> 00:02:48.150 it's a challenge for sure. Uh, doing all of that. 00:02:48.150 --> 00:02:53.250 Um, and it's definitely, um, I'm trying to do 00:02:53.250 --> 00:02:56.430 it all, but it's, it's a challenge for sure, 00:02:56.430 --> 00:02:59.189 but it's a very rewarding being a mom. Absolutely. 00:02:59.490 --> 00:03:02.830 Like it's a beautiful challenge. It's one of 00:03:02.830 --> 00:03:04.490 those things that it's kind of hard to put into 00:03:04.490 --> 00:03:07.490 words, right? Cause it's like, you know, there's 00:03:07.490 --> 00:03:10.310 the beautiful moments and then there's really 00:03:10.310 --> 00:03:14.500 challenging hard moments as well. But, yeah. 00:03:15.860 --> 00:03:19.840 But I feel like my life is richer with my kids. 00:03:20.080 --> 00:03:23.939 Oh, okay. Okay. Evie Love, what do you think 00:03:23.939 --> 00:03:27.719 is the best thing about your mom? Cooking. Cooking, 00:03:27.900 --> 00:03:29.979 yeah. You like to cook things together? Yeah. 00:03:30.099 --> 00:03:31.919 Do you have a favorite thing that your mom cooks? 00:03:33.020 --> 00:03:37.639 Yes, soup. Soup? Okay. Soup is very good. I like 00:03:37.639 --> 00:03:40.189 soup, too. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, as you were 00:03:40.189 --> 00:03:42.370 saying, like all of those bits to sort of, yeah, 00:03:42.449 --> 00:03:45.469 juggle and tackle and being a mom, but also being 00:03:45.469 --> 00:03:47.430 yourself and being someone in business. It's 00:03:47.430 --> 00:03:51.210 a lot of pieces for sure. Yes. Yeah. What about 00:03:51.210 --> 00:03:53.849 for you? What was sort of unexpected about motherhood? 00:03:53.849 --> 00:03:57.210 The first round, I'd have to say I was diagnosed 00:03:57.210 --> 00:04:00.069 with a rare pregnancy related disease. Okay. 00:04:00.129 --> 00:04:03.349 And then having to like navigate that and all 00:04:03.349 --> 00:04:04.830 those different things that come with that. Yeah. 00:04:04.949 --> 00:04:08.930 And the second round. um, being bereaved. Yeah. 00:04:09.650 --> 00:04:12.430 Yeah, for sure. Going through that. I mean, breathe 00:04:12.430 --> 00:04:14.610 mom, which is, it's a, it's a lot different than 00:04:14.610 --> 00:04:18.629 just, uh, for sure. Yeah. It's just, there's 00:04:18.629 --> 00:04:19.810 a lot of different challenges and unexpected 00:04:19.810 --> 00:04:21.509 things. So that's definitely unexpected. Cause 00:04:21.509 --> 00:04:24.069 you obviously don't plan for that. Yeah. Yeah. 00:04:24.129 --> 00:04:26.089 Yeah. You have a picture of like what this journey 00:04:26.089 --> 00:04:28.290 is supposed to be like. And so you just, it just 00:04:28.290 --> 00:04:30.209 automatically shifts to the left and yeah, you 00:04:30.209 --> 00:04:32.610 have to be really good at pivoting and you're 00:04:32.610 --> 00:04:34.370 always learning. So like every day, just like, 00:04:34.889 --> 00:04:37.370 any type of mom but it's just another level that 00:04:37.370 --> 00:04:39.870 you have to yeah yeah yeah yeah work through 00:04:39.870 --> 00:04:42.089 yeah for sure for sure yeah and like carrying 00:04:42.089 --> 00:04:45.310 all of that with you and yeah yeah it's I think 00:04:45.310 --> 00:04:47.250 it's safe to say that like motherhood changes 00:04:47.250 --> 00:04:49.790 you permanently right right whatever that situation 00:04:49.790 --> 00:04:52.689 is for you that yeah yeah you are not the same 00:04:52.689 --> 00:04:56.970 person that you were yeah yeah for sure Um, what 00:04:56.970 --> 00:04:58.769 about like things that you've sort of learned 00:04:58.769 --> 00:05:00.870 along the way? Is there like one thing that you're 00:05:00.870 --> 00:05:03.110 like, ah, this is like, you know, my biggest 00:05:03.110 --> 00:05:06.410 mom learning or like my, my thing that you've 00:05:06.410 --> 00:05:10.050 been like, ah, that's yeah. A piece. Um, prioritization 00:05:10.050 --> 00:05:13.569 for sure. My life is different now with kids 00:05:13.569 --> 00:05:16.930 than when I didn't have kids. Right. Um, I only 00:05:16.930 --> 00:05:20.600 have so much room. for, um, things in my life. 00:05:20.660 --> 00:05:23.939 So, you know, the life that I used to lead is 00:05:23.939 --> 00:05:26.500 very different and my circle of friends are very 00:05:26.500 --> 00:05:30.199 different. Sure. So, um, you know, a lot of changes 00:05:30.199 --> 00:05:33.100 on, on that front and prioritization. So a lot 00:05:33.100 --> 00:05:34.939 of stuff that we talked about today, actually, 00:05:34.980 --> 00:05:39.339 uh, during the sermon is very, um, relevant to, 00:05:39.339 --> 00:05:44.300 um, my experience as a mom and. prioritizing 00:05:44.300 --> 00:05:48.519 the things. My kids have to come first. Sure. 00:05:49.040 --> 00:05:52.560 before anything else. But same with, you know, 00:05:52.560 --> 00:05:56.199 my career right now is because I started entrepreneurship 00:05:56.199 --> 00:05:59.459 at the same time as being that, like, I, I think 00:05:59.459 --> 00:06:02.800 I started two of the biggest challenges in life 00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:07.060 at the same time. So yeah, there's not much room 00:06:07.060 --> 00:06:10.120 in my life for a lot of things that I used to 00:06:10.120 --> 00:06:13.560 do in the past, like planning things with my 00:06:13.560 --> 00:06:16.300 friends and like all these exciting trips. Like, 00:06:16.300 --> 00:06:18.959 yeah. I don't have any time for that. Sure. And 00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:22.420 actually, it's kind of cool because now my friends 00:06:22.420 --> 00:06:24.439 have kind of stepped up and they're planning, 00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:27.060 which is kind of nice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 00:06:27.060 --> 00:06:29.920 It gives you it's a whole new season where you 00:06:29.920 --> 00:06:31.819 learn these whole new skills. But yeah, then 00:06:31.819 --> 00:06:36.259 your relationships shift, obviously. Yeah. Right. 00:06:36.420 --> 00:06:41.220 I know. Maybe. Yeah. We'll see. I know my money. 00:06:41.579 --> 00:06:45.480 Yeah. Yeah, your mommy, she's pretty cool. She's 00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:48.560 got lots of stuff going on. I know. Yeah, you 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:52.639 know, those kids. Yeah, what about you, Trish? 00:06:52.879 --> 00:06:56.180 On the back of that, yeah, I think it's the prioritizing, 00:06:56.180 --> 00:07:01.240 the pivoting, all that. Being a musician, I actually 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:03.180 am a recording artist. I actually was doing it. 00:07:03.220 --> 00:07:04.980 I just kept... working through it even though 00:07:04.980 --> 00:07:07.600 I was sick and stuff so that was a whole like 00:07:07.600 --> 00:07:10.639 oh most people ah you know take a break but that's 00:07:10.639 --> 00:07:13.120 just not how I'm wired so I just and it was like 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:16.259 okay so how do I do this while doing that and 00:07:16.259 --> 00:07:18.379 it's still that's just like that's like what 00:07:18.379 --> 00:07:20.120 Jazzy knows though she's like oh I have a musician 00:07:20.120 --> 00:07:21.939 mom like that's just what it is so right she's 00:07:21.939 --> 00:07:24.199 been to rehearsal she's been to the studio right 00:07:24.199 --> 00:07:26.740 little kid I'm just sitting there yeah that sounds 00:07:26.740 --> 00:07:28.860 good she's she's actually been able to critique 00:07:28.860 --> 00:07:30.860 other musicians they're like oh so what do you 00:07:30.860 --> 00:07:33.029 think of that And she doesn't hold back. She 00:07:33.029 --> 00:07:36.589 knows. Yeah. I said about that. Yeah. Right? 00:07:37.490 --> 00:07:41.610 You'd know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We got some 00:07:41.610 --> 00:07:43.230 confidence over here. Kids are actually the best 00:07:43.230 --> 00:07:45.209 because if you really want to know if you're 00:07:45.209 --> 00:07:48.949 good, if you're not so great. Yeah. So what do 00:07:48.949 --> 00:07:51.170 you think? You think, oh, because I'm her mom. 00:07:51.230 --> 00:07:54.110 Like she had a, she was younger. She, oh, I have 00:07:54.110 --> 00:07:55.750 a little band. Yeah. I'm like, okay, I'm going 00:07:55.750 --> 00:07:57.649 to audition. And she's like, you didn't make 00:07:57.649 --> 00:08:00.680 it. I actually. I did not shoot. I didn't make 00:08:00.680 --> 00:08:03.699 it all these other people. Yeah. Yeah. You're 00:08:03.699 --> 00:08:06.600 great. She's like, no, I think the note was you 00:08:06.600 --> 00:08:10.279 today. You just didn't have it. So. No, she's 00:08:10.279 --> 00:08:12.500 moving in a different direction. Okay. There 00:08:12.500 --> 00:08:16.680 you go. That was like right there. Yeah. Yeah. 00:08:16.860 --> 00:08:22.740 For sure. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it's so fun. I think 00:08:22.740 --> 00:08:25.339 like, yeah. Getting to like see your kids at 00:08:25.339 --> 00:08:28.339 these different sort of ages and stages and yeah. 00:08:28.379 --> 00:08:32.139 Like watching them grow up and yeah. Then suddenly 00:08:32.139 --> 00:08:35.129 they're too cool for you. Like, yeah. Like, what 00:08:35.129 --> 00:08:36.509 was that? Thankfully, you're not quite there 00:08:36.509 --> 00:08:39.549 yet. I don't know. Are your kids too cool for 00:08:39.549 --> 00:08:42.190 you sometimes? Oh, I mean, we're not going through 00:08:42.190 --> 00:08:45.309 that yet, but I can definitely see that happening. 00:08:45.549 --> 00:08:47.350 That's definitely going to be my future for sure. 00:08:47.690 --> 00:08:49.990 I mean, they already think that they know more 00:08:49.990 --> 00:08:54.090 than me. Like, trying to read a book to my kids 00:08:54.090 --> 00:08:56.750 sometimes, she's good. But, like, my son, John 00:08:56.750 --> 00:09:03.269 Rumi, he wants to read to me. Right. Yeah. He's 00:09:03.269 --> 00:09:07.289 two. Right. I'm four. You're four. I don't know 00:09:07.289 --> 00:09:09.750 what kind of future I have out of me. Right. 00:09:09.789 --> 00:09:12.970 Yes. Yes. Abby Love's already running the show. 00:09:13.250 --> 00:09:18.850 Already is. Yeah. Right. So in all of these things, 00:09:18.909 --> 00:09:20.970 what would you say is the best part of being 00:09:20.970 --> 00:09:23.409 a mom? What's your favorite? You're like, ah, 00:09:23.450 --> 00:09:28.860 this is why it's worth it. I feel like the biggest 00:09:28.860 --> 00:09:32.159 thing is just being blessed and getting the opportunity 00:09:32.159 --> 00:09:34.980 or chosen to raise like mini -me's. And that's 00:09:34.980 --> 00:09:38.059 so cool to see, like, especially like, okay, 00:09:38.120 --> 00:09:40.100 daughters and they're growing up and it's like, 00:09:40.179 --> 00:09:41.759 she'll do stuff and people are like, oh yeah, 00:09:41.820 --> 00:09:43.120 you look alike and this. And then there's the 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:45.639 personalities coming in and she has musical talents 00:09:45.639 --> 00:09:48.559 too. Right. So she's currently in jazz band and 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:50.159 concert band. And so it's really cool to see 00:09:50.159 --> 00:09:52.059 that she wanted to do that. And so there's, I'm 00:09:52.059 --> 00:09:53.620 like, oh, look at that. And it's so cool that 00:09:53.620 --> 00:09:57.009 she's appreciating it and respecting it. I didn't 00:09:57.009 --> 00:09:58.830 push for that, but she's sure. It's really cool 00:09:58.830 --> 00:10:00.690 to see that. Like you're raising raising them 00:10:00.690 --> 00:10:03.169 up and it's like, oh, wow. Like, OK. Yeah. Yeah. 00:10:03.490 --> 00:10:06.029 And do you feel like like at this point, I'm 00:10:06.029 --> 00:10:08.129 sure, you know, in 13 years, there's been an 00:10:08.129 --> 00:10:10.169 evolution of that relationship. Right. So like, 00:10:10.169 --> 00:10:12.889 do you feel like at this point? it's like you're 00:10:12.889 --> 00:10:15.269 able to like connect on a different level in 00:10:15.269 --> 00:10:17.110 that way like because you have these different 00:10:17.110 --> 00:10:19.750 with her even as a baby yeah you know how most 00:10:19.750 --> 00:10:21.750 times like the sound is too much and we always 00:10:21.750 --> 00:10:24.250 put like the headphones on yeah the sound she 00:10:24.250 --> 00:10:27.690 we used to try that yeah off and she just so 00:10:27.690 --> 00:10:31.250 big concerts and she's just vibing and she's 00:10:31.250 --> 00:10:33.169 always been like that like have her in the studio 00:10:33.169 --> 00:10:35.639 as a baby and yeah like oh you know like Keys 00:10:35.639 --> 00:10:37.399 is my main. So, okay. But I have other instruments. 00:10:37.500 --> 00:10:40.519 No. So like the guitar, like the drums, we'll 00:10:40.519 --> 00:10:42.539 just, you know? Yeah. And so I think we've always 00:10:42.539 --> 00:10:44.139 had that. So we've been blessed that way. I've 00:10:44.139 --> 00:10:45.779 always had that connection with her. And I think 00:10:45.779 --> 00:10:47.419 it's just, it's growing. Yes. And so there's 00:10:47.419 --> 00:10:48.860 more appreciation. She's getting older. So she's, 00:10:48.860 --> 00:10:51.240 I think, understanding and appreciating more 00:10:51.240 --> 00:10:53.940 of what I do. Sure. And like what goes into it. 00:10:53.980 --> 00:10:55.759 And then like, oh, you do all of this. And then 00:10:55.759 --> 00:10:57.919 you also do all of this for me. And I think that's 00:10:57.919 --> 00:11:00.519 more what's happening. Yeah. So she's like, oh, 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:03.399 okay. I'm learning this instrument and I'm just 00:11:03.399 --> 00:11:05.779 learning it. And then, you know, And then you're 00:11:05.779 --> 00:11:07.059 doing that and you're helping me and you're doing 00:11:07.059 --> 00:11:08.840 this. So it's nice to know that it's like, oh, 00:11:08.879 --> 00:11:11.279 see, like, yeah, I can do all that. And we juggle, 00:11:11.299 --> 00:11:13.879 right? It's back to the ties in juggling. But 00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:15.940 when they understand it, like when you have young 00:11:15.940 --> 00:11:18.539 ones at first, it's like, okay, yeah, mom, just 00:11:18.539 --> 00:11:20.240 do this. So you're, you have your business, you 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:21.460 have what's going on. They're like, whatever. 00:11:21.500 --> 00:11:23.279 But as they grow, they're going to be like, mom, 00:11:23.419 --> 00:11:25.419 thank you. You were here. You did this. They'll 00:11:25.419 --> 00:11:27.799 see it. And then you'll get the cards and the 00:11:27.799 --> 00:11:29.940 picture. She's an artist too. So she draws a 00:11:29.940 --> 00:11:31.860 lot for me. And so it's, it's nice. And it's 00:11:31.860 --> 00:11:34.139 like, oh, you're. respecting that and oh you 00:11:34.139 --> 00:11:35.899 appreciate it because we know they do but like 00:11:35.899 --> 00:11:37.879 when you actually get to a point where they just 00:11:37.879 --> 00:11:41.299 come and say it to you sure like oh okay yeah 00:11:41.299 --> 00:11:42.799 those like those like it's like those rewards 00:11:42.799 --> 00:11:44.899 those moments where they're like I'm so appreciative 00:11:44.899 --> 00:11:48.519 yeah yeah yeah absolutely and that's definitely 00:11:48.519 --> 00:11:51.759 my future right now with you know the two and 00:11:51.759 --> 00:11:54.059 four stage that I'm going through I think the 00:11:54.059 --> 00:11:58.740 best thing is them meeting you sure much like 00:11:58.740 --> 00:12:01.419 i mean it's the it has it's the best and the 00:12:01.419 --> 00:12:04.960 worst sure yes yep you know the best of it is 00:12:04.960 --> 00:12:06.840 like when they come home they're like mommy mommy 00:12:06.840 --> 00:12:09.220 mommy and they just you know when i want to see 00:12:09.220 --> 00:12:11.960 you and you're like you know the first and last 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:16.000 thing no and you're everything yeah um but then 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:18.220 there's also times where it's like enough mommy 00:12:18.220 --> 00:12:21.259 mommy mommy right yeah it's like yeah it's good 00:12:21.259 --> 00:12:24.480 and it's yeah yeah because it's like overwhelming 00:12:24.480 --> 00:12:27.320 like love and affection and all of those things 00:12:27.320 --> 00:12:29.759 and sometimes you definitely need a break right 00:12:29.759 --> 00:12:33.580 yes both things can be true yeah yeah yeah absolutely 00:12:33.580 --> 00:12:38.500 yeah yeah yeah for sure um what about like the 00:12:38.500 --> 00:12:40.940 hard parts of being a mom are there pieces that 00:12:40.940 --> 00:12:43.139 you're like wow this was like really challenging 00:12:43.139 --> 00:12:45.679 and like maybe didn't expect that or just like 00:12:45.679 --> 00:12:51.039 continue to walk through that i think um One 00:12:51.039 --> 00:12:53.519 thing for me, I mean, as they're growing and 00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:55.480 you know they have to find their own way. So 00:12:55.480 --> 00:12:58.039 they're going through stuff and you know that 00:12:58.039 --> 00:13:00.379 there's going to be times where they're hurting. 00:13:00.480 --> 00:13:03.340 And yet you have to let them experience it. You 00:13:03.340 --> 00:13:05.700 can't jump in. You can't stop it. You can't fix 00:13:05.700 --> 00:13:07.440 it. They have to do it. And you know what's coming. 00:13:07.799 --> 00:13:10.980 And yet, so it's like it hurts because you're 00:13:10.980 --> 00:13:12.860 a mom. You want to jump in. You want to help. 00:13:12.899 --> 00:13:14.759 But you know that they have to do it. They have 00:13:14.759 --> 00:13:16.299 to go through it. They have to experience it. 00:13:16.340 --> 00:13:18.500 So probably that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. For sure. 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:22.620 For sure. What the future is going to be like 00:13:22.620 --> 00:13:24.539 for them, especially in this day and age where 00:13:24.539 --> 00:13:29.440 there's so much chaos and with what's going on 00:13:29.440 --> 00:13:32.700 with technology and all of those things I worry 00:13:32.700 --> 00:13:38.539 about when I think about my kids. But also right 00:13:38.539 --> 00:13:43.480 now, the hardest thing is, you know, we're not 00:13:43.480 --> 00:13:47.740 trained. as adults, how to speak to kids and 00:13:47.740 --> 00:13:51.919 have them listen to you. Yep. Right. Um, and 00:13:51.919 --> 00:13:53.779 no matter how many books you read or whatever, 00:13:53.899 --> 00:13:57.320 it's going to play out differently, uh, in real 00:13:57.320 --> 00:13:59.659 life. So some of my, some of the hardest things 00:13:59.659 --> 00:14:04.000 is just very simple, rudimentary things like 00:14:04.000 --> 00:14:05.940 getting them up in the morning, getting them 00:14:05.940 --> 00:14:07.559 to do the things that they're supposed to do, 00:14:07.639 --> 00:14:10.559 getting them to listen to you, behave all of 00:14:10.559 --> 00:14:16.049 that. Like, you know, um, uh, discipline you 00:14:16.049 --> 00:14:21.809 know those are very hard and sure um i i consider 00:14:21.809 --> 00:14:26.620 myself more strict than Anthony. Um, I think 00:14:26.620 --> 00:14:29.559 he's, he has more leeway and also like then also 00:14:29.559 --> 00:14:32.139 being aligned with your partner on those things. 00:14:32.200 --> 00:14:34.720 Right. And in terms of like how much TV they 00:14:34.720 --> 00:14:38.340 get and all of those things, um, are, are definitely 00:14:38.340 --> 00:14:42.120 the hardest bits and also your relationship, 00:14:42.159 --> 00:14:44.799 how your relationship plays out in the midst 00:14:44.799 --> 00:14:47.379 of raising your kids. Right. And what that's 00:14:47.379 --> 00:14:48.980 looking like. And are you, are you making your 00:14:48.980 --> 00:14:53.080 relationship priority? um yeah all of those things 00:14:53.080 --> 00:14:56.919 yeah yeah yeah yeah for sure it's not that close 00:14:56.919 --> 00:15:01.059 sorry not that close not that close okay yeah 00:15:01.059 --> 00:15:03.899 yeah yeah yeah but yeah i think like because 00:15:03.899 --> 00:15:06.799 you like get you have kids but they don't come 00:15:06.799 --> 00:15:09.360 with an instruction manual right it's not like 00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:12.279 a oh yeah and like this is how you talk to them 00:15:12.279 --> 00:15:14.379 this is how you should raise them these are the 00:15:14.379 --> 00:15:17.289 choices you should make You like figure it all 00:15:17.289 --> 00:15:19.870 out as you do it. Even if there was an instruction 00:15:19.870 --> 00:15:22.529 manual, it wouldn't work because every kid is 00:15:22.529 --> 00:15:24.909 different. Sure. Right. Anyway. Yeah. You're 00:15:24.909 --> 00:15:27.129 creating it. You're creating the manual. Yeah. 00:15:27.210 --> 00:15:29.470 As you go. As you go. It's personalized. Yeah. 00:15:29.529 --> 00:15:33.029 For every kid. For sure. Like my experience with 00:15:33.029 --> 00:15:35.669 my son, John Remy, is very different than with 00:15:35.669 --> 00:15:38.309 Evie Love. Sure. You know, he's more obedient. 00:15:38.970 --> 00:15:40.909 She's not so much. She's kind of like in her 00:15:40.909 --> 00:15:44.389 own. She's got her personality. She's kind of 00:15:44.389 --> 00:15:48.019 does her own thing. Which, I mean, it's not surprising 00:15:48.019 --> 00:15:50.240 considering who I am and who our dad is. Sure. 00:15:50.620 --> 00:15:52.899 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think like that 00:15:52.899 --> 00:15:54.799 goes back to like the mini me thing that you 00:15:54.799 --> 00:15:57.399 were talking about is like they take on those 00:15:57.399 --> 00:15:59.740 traits that you love, but then they also take 00:15:59.740 --> 00:16:02.620 on the traits that you're like, I am like that 00:16:02.620 --> 00:16:05.500 and I wish my child was not. Sometimes when she 00:16:05.500 --> 00:16:07.320 speaks, I'm like, oh my God, I talk like that. 00:16:07.379 --> 00:16:10.940 Is that how I sound? Is that who I am? Yeah. 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:13.460 It's definitely a mirror. Sure. I'm like, oh 00:16:13.460 --> 00:16:18.830 my gosh. I am that. Because where is she getting 00:16:18.830 --> 00:16:22.070 it from? Right. Yes. Not me. The other one. The 00:16:22.070 --> 00:16:24.549 other one. Yeah. Obviously. Right? Yeah. Over 00:16:24.549 --> 00:16:27.929 there. Of course. All the good things. And then 00:16:27.929 --> 00:16:30.490 you kind of like sit there with that thought 00:16:30.490 --> 00:16:32.850 and you're like, okay, I need to reevaluate. 00:16:33.149 --> 00:16:38.809 Sure. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah. So in 00:16:38.809 --> 00:16:41.070 thinking about then this idea of like, you know, 00:16:41.110 --> 00:16:44.690 there is no instruction manual. Um, but like, 00:16:44.690 --> 00:16:47.830 what would be one piece of advice or like one 00:16:47.830 --> 00:16:49.789 thing that you might sort of say as encouragement 00:16:49.789 --> 00:16:54.090 to like other moms? Um, yeah. What you're doing 00:16:54.090 --> 00:16:58.649 an amazing job. Okay. I would say you are, you 00:16:58.649 --> 00:17:03.419 know, a gift to your kids. And just be your authentic 00:17:03.419 --> 00:17:07.359 self. Be that. And I think the best thing that 00:17:07.359 --> 00:17:09.460 we can do for our kids is just be there for them. 00:17:09.519 --> 00:17:17.069 Sure. And support them and love them. Yeah. That's 00:17:17.069 --> 00:17:21.750 the best thing I can say to them. And self -care. 00:17:21.950 --> 00:17:23.930 Oh, my God. You've got to take care of yourself. 00:17:24.349 --> 00:17:27.710 You've got to put yourself first, even though 00:17:27.710 --> 00:17:29.650 it's very difficult. I know there's a lot of 00:17:29.650 --> 00:17:32.490 self -sacrificial moms who just give, give, give, 00:17:32.609 --> 00:17:35.250 and then you're running on empty. And then, you 00:17:35.250 --> 00:17:38.430 know, what do you got left? So self -care is 00:17:38.430 --> 00:17:43.809 very important. For sure. I would say lean on 00:17:43.809 --> 00:17:47.400 other moms and use them as resources. they we're 00:17:47.400 --> 00:17:49.140 all going through it together it doesn't matter 00:17:49.140 --> 00:17:52.079 what age and stage we can always learn you can 00:17:52.079 --> 00:17:55.619 learn from some younger older sure it's yeah 00:17:55.619 --> 00:18:00.039 yeah yeah yeah yeah it's this whole yeah community 00:18:00.039 --> 00:18:03.640 yeah and like you don't have to do it alone right 00:18:03.640 --> 00:18:05.779 right that there are other moms there are other 00:18:05.779 --> 00:18:08.400 people like even if they aren't biological moms 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:10.039 like can be there and be like no i want to like 00:18:10.039 --> 00:18:12.539 help you support you in raising your kids and 00:18:12.539 --> 00:18:16.450 that sort of a thing yeah yeah for sure So then 00:18:16.450 --> 00:18:19.390 in that vein, if there's people who want to be 00:18:19.390 --> 00:18:21.950 supportive and want to be caring for moms, what 00:18:21.950 --> 00:18:24.210 would you say to them? What's the best way to 00:18:24.210 --> 00:18:27.190 be supportive of people raising kids right now? 00:18:29.809 --> 00:18:35.509 Yeah, go ahead. Where are we going? I guess I 00:18:35.509 --> 00:18:41.490 would say ask them, see what they need, what 00:18:41.490 --> 00:18:42.809 they want to actually be directing. What do you 00:18:42.809 --> 00:18:47.240 need? Because I think a lot of times so many 00:18:47.240 --> 00:18:49.559 moms are so good at what they do. Sure. And it 00:18:49.559 --> 00:18:51.380 seems like, oh, they've got it all handled that 00:18:51.380 --> 00:18:53.240 you don't even want to ask. You're just like, 00:18:53.359 --> 00:18:54.779 okay, they're good. They got it. And a lot of 00:18:54.779 --> 00:18:56.660 times I don't think we get asked a lot. It's 00:18:56.660 --> 00:18:58.680 just like, hey, what can I help you with? Is 00:18:58.680 --> 00:19:01.440 there anything you need? Sure. Oh, yeah. Yeah. 00:19:01.539 --> 00:19:03.440 Thank you for that. And then and then just take 00:19:03.440 --> 00:19:05.539 it from there. Just like see where. Yeah, that 00:19:05.539 --> 00:19:07.660 goes. Yeah, yeah, for sure. For sure. Keep it 00:19:07.660 --> 00:19:10.160 simple. I mean, some of the supports that Trinity 00:19:10.160 --> 00:19:14.680 has in place for moms is just incredible. I mean, 00:19:14.720 --> 00:19:17.920 it's beyond my expectations. That was actually 00:19:17.920 --> 00:19:21.839 one of my entrances in Trinity was through the 00:19:21.839 --> 00:19:25.190 moms group. OK. And then. You know, it was a 00:19:25.190 --> 00:19:27.349 little bit of a reprieve when I would sit with 00:19:27.349 --> 00:19:30.890 the other moms and chitchat about God and life 00:19:30.890 --> 00:19:33.809 and whatever. And at the same time, my kids were 00:19:33.809 --> 00:19:37.430 being taken care of. Right. You know, by the 00:19:37.430 --> 00:19:40.589 beautiful graces and the Janet's in the world. 00:19:40.970 --> 00:19:47.269 May she rest in peace. You know, who who were 00:19:47.269 --> 00:19:49.430 taking care of the kids. Sure. While I got some 00:19:49.430 --> 00:19:53.319 reprieve. Yeah. You know. And so. thank you. 00:19:53.319 --> 00:19:55.740 I would say thank you to those people who want 00:19:55.740 --> 00:19:59.259 to support. I just say, thank you. Yeah. Thank 00:19:59.259 --> 00:20:04.299 you. Yeah, for sure. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. Um, 00:20:04.500 --> 00:20:07.140 yeah. So maybe last question to sort of think 00:20:07.140 --> 00:20:10.000 about this, like as a mom, are there any ways 00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:12.640 that like that experience of becoming a mom of 00:20:12.640 --> 00:20:15.039 raising kids has like influenced your faith or 00:20:15.039 --> 00:20:17.900 your relationship with God in some way? Um, you 00:20:17.900 --> 00:20:20.500 know, challenges things that you like understand 00:20:20.500 --> 00:20:25.390 differently. Yeah, yeah. It's definitely, faith 00:20:25.390 --> 00:20:27.990 has become more important since I've become a 00:20:27.990 --> 00:20:32.690 mom. I try to bring my kids to church and have 00:20:32.690 --> 00:20:35.410 them be part of the church, even though that's 00:20:35.410 --> 00:20:38.950 not how I grew up. Their dad is a Christian. 00:20:39.329 --> 00:20:42.690 I come from a Muslim background. That was my 00:20:42.690 --> 00:20:45.509 faith growing up. But I didn't come from a very 00:20:45.509 --> 00:20:49.619 religious household. And my religion, if you 00:20:49.619 --> 00:20:53.039 want to get into it. Sure. I'm a universal deist. 00:20:53.160 --> 00:20:55.960 Sure. Right. I believe in God first and foremost. 00:20:56.859 --> 00:20:59.599 But I just love coming to this church and I find 00:20:59.599 --> 00:21:01.700 God when I come to this church. That's what's 00:21:01.700 --> 00:21:04.680 important to me. Sure. Right. Yeah. And so, yeah, 00:21:04.779 --> 00:21:07.900 I want faith in God to be in my kids' lives. 00:21:08.059 --> 00:21:12.119 And I think I've made it more of a point to do 00:21:12.119 --> 00:21:15.660 that now that I'm a mom. For sure. Yeah. Evie 00:21:15.660 --> 00:21:18.720 Love. Evie Love. What? do you like to do with 00:21:18.720 --> 00:21:20.380 your mom? Do you have a favorite thing you like 00:21:20.380 --> 00:21:23.440 to do with your mom? Play with blocks. Yeah. 00:21:23.559 --> 00:21:26.619 What do you do with the blocks? I make houses. 00:21:26.920 --> 00:21:30.759 You make houses. That sounds so cool. She loves 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:33.440 magnetic. Oh, the magnetic tile. Those are very 00:21:33.440 --> 00:21:38.319 cool. Yeah. And I have, I have another kind of 00:21:38.319 --> 00:21:40.960 blocks. Another kind of blocks too. Yeah. Yeah. 00:21:41.529 --> 00:21:43.529 And you build things with your mom? And there's 00:21:43.529 --> 00:21:46.170 another block. I have three blocks. You have 00:21:46.170 --> 00:21:49.569 three kinds of blocks? That's so cool. It's fun. 00:21:49.730 --> 00:21:53.529 Yeah. Yeah. You like spending time and playing 00:21:53.529 --> 00:21:56.210 with your mom? Yes. Yeah? I think your mom's 00:21:56.210 --> 00:21:57.609 pretty cool. Do you think she's pretty cool, 00:21:57.670 --> 00:22:03.190 too? Yes. Yes? Okay. That's awesome. I'm sure. 00:22:03.450 --> 00:22:05.309 Yeah? Yeah? Do you like coming to church with 00:22:05.309 --> 00:22:08.049 mom? Yes. Yeah? What do you like to do at church? 00:22:10.750 --> 00:22:13.349 Play. You like to play at church? Yeah. I think 00:22:13.349 --> 00:22:15.769 there's probably some blocks here, too. Yeah. 00:22:15.890 --> 00:22:18.569 I don't know. You don't know? There's lots of 00:22:18.569 --> 00:22:20.910 things. There's lots of great things here. Thank 00:22:20.910 --> 00:22:25.089 you. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, what about for you? 00:22:25.130 --> 00:22:27.789 How has, like, faith and motherhood sort of interacted? 00:22:28.190 --> 00:22:31.490 Well, faith has always been strong for me. Since 00:22:31.490 --> 00:22:35.809 becoming a mom, obviously, with the situations 00:22:35.809 --> 00:22:39.920 I was in, I've had to lean more heavily. It's 00:22:39.920 --> 00:22:41.920 got me through and I just, I leaned on it more 00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:44.839 and more and I just trusted that God had us and 00:22:44.839 --> 00:22:48.180 he had a good plan for us, even though like whatever 00:22:48.180 --> 00:22:50.940 the future held, we would still be blessed and 00:22:50.940 --> 00:22:53.599 we'd make it through. So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 00:22:53.599 --> 00:22:55.579 for sure. It's just, yeah, it just continues 00:22:55.579 --> 00:22:59.519 to grow. Yeah. Yeah. That's so good. Yeah. I 00:22:59.519 --> 00:23:01.619 think that, yeah. In, in both of those stories, 00:23:01.680 --> 00:23:04.200 there's this sense of like, yeah, that God has 00:23:04.200 --> 00:23:08.309 become this place where you can like, Yeah, see 00:23:08.309 --> 00:23:10.569 yourself a little bit more and to like trust 00:23:10.569 --> 00:23:14.049 God with your family, right? And with whatever's 00:23:14.049 --> 00:23:16.869 happening. You have a keychain. That is so cool. 00:23:17.170 --> 00:23:18.930 Who's on your keychain? Who's on your keychain? 00:23:19.049 --> 00:23:22.549 Rumi. Rumi. From the? Keep up the good work. 00:23:22.750 --> 00:23:26.819 Oh! Oh, very cool. This is a whole thing, the 00:23:26.819 --> 00:23:29.539 K -pop Demon Hunters. I've heard lots about them. 00:23:29.720 --> 00:23:34.099 Huge. Massive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool. Well, 00:23:34.160 --> 00:23:36.319 thank you so much, folks, for joining me for 00:23:36.319 --> 00:23:38.880 this conversation. Yeah, just giving us a little 00:23:38.880 --> 00:23:40.819 bit of an insight about what it's like being 00:23:40.819 --> 00:23:44.359 a mom now and all of the joys and the hardships 00:23:44.359 --> 00:23:48.009 and the walking through that together. And thank 00:23:48.009 --> 00:23:50.490 you for tuning into this week's episode of Trinity 00:23:50.490 --> 00:23:53.789 Talks. Whether you are a mom or whether there's 00:23:53.789 --> 00:23:56.329 kids in your life or not, I hope that you are 00:23:56.329 --> 00:23:59.170 able to find some family, some sense of community 00:23:59.170 --> 00:24:02.710 where you can also continue journeying alongside 00:24:02.710 --> 00:24:05.470 God with all of the people that God has placed 00:24:05.470 --> 00:24:07.529 around you. And we'll see you again next week.