WEBVTT 00:00:03.410 --> 00:00:05.509 Hello, everyone, and welcome to this week's episode 00:00:05.509 --> 00:00:08.769 of Trinity Talks. My name is Kyla, and I am sitting 00:00:08.769 --> 00:00:11.410 down here with two folks who are part of our 00:00:11.410 --> 00:00:14.230 Trinity family, who both just happen to be moms. 00:00:14.630 --> 00:00:16.309 And we're going to talk a little bit about what 00:00:16.309 --> 00:00:19.949 that's like being a mom of young kids and this 00:00:19.949 --> 00:00:22.149 young family sort of ministry that's been starting 00:00:22.149 --> 00:00:24.390 here at Trinity. So thank you so much for joining 00:00:24.390 --> 00:00:26.250 me, ladies. Thanks for having us. Thanks for 00:00:26.250 --> 00:00:28.210 having us. Maybe I'll get you to start by doing 00:00:28.210 --> 00:00:29.890 a little bit of an introduction, say a little 00:00:29.890 --> 00:00:31.570 bit about yourself, about your family. Do you 00:00:31.570 --> 00:00:35.090 want to get us started? Hi, I'm Travis. My husband, 00:00:35.250 --> 00:00:37.289 Eric, is also here. Not with us right now, but 00:00:37.289 --> 00:00:39.710 he's out there with our two twins who are probably 00:00:39.710 --> 00:00:42.969 running all around the coffee room. We also have 00:00:42.969 --> 00:00:45.509 a gerbil and a new fish named Pretty Fish Princess, 00:00:45.729 --> 00:00:47.850 which is the kind of name that you get when you 00:00:47.850 --> 00:00:49.990 let your four year old name a fish. OK, but that 00:00:49.990 --> 00:00:53.990 is like majestic. Yes. Yeah, that's lovely. That's 00:00:53.990 --> 00:00:57.079 us. What color is pretty? Oh, she's pink. She's 00:00:57.079 --> 00:01:00.280 a pink betta fish. Yeah, with a unicorn and a 00:01:00.280 --> 00:01:04.000 rainbow tank. OK, this is awesome. I love that 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:07.939 so much. OK. And yeah, go ahead. My name is Amy. 00:01:08.260 --> 00:01:11.420 My husband is Luke, who's also, I'm sure, running 00:01:11.420 --> 00:01:14.739 after all the children. And my son is Callahan 00:01:14.739 --> 00:01:18.959 or also be called Callie. OK. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. 00:01:19.120 --> 00:01:22.239 Well, so I know you folks have been sort of integral 00:01:22.239 --> 00:01:24.900 in starting this young families ministry here 00:01:24.900 --> 00:01:26.500 at Trinity. So maybe you can just share a little 00:01:26.500 --> 00:01:28.840 bit about like what sort of prompted you to want 00:01:28.840 --> 00:01:31.239 to do that? Like, what's what's the need or the 00:01:31.239 --> 00:01:34.819 desire there? I think it's Travis and I, we would 00:01:34.819 --> 00:01:37.959 get our kids together. My son is three and a 00:01:37.959 --> 00:01:40.780 half. The twins are four turning five soon and. 00:01:40.989 --> 00:01:43.810 We just felt that need for community. We'd always 00:01:43.810 --> 00:01:46.530 see parents on a Sunday morning We kind of see 00:01:46.530 --> 00:01:48.349 them here and there and it's kind of like the 00:01:48.349 --> 00:01:49.950 kids run around they have a great time So we 00:01:49.950 --> 00:01:52.530 thought why not bring all the families and the 00:01:52.530 --> 00:01:55.400 kids together sure Yeah for sure and I think 00:01:55.400 --> 00:01:57.400 especially on Sundays like we all have our hands 00:01:57.400 --> 00:02:00.359 so full you know there's cookies there's running 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:03.299 around and so sugar we don't always get the opportunity 00:02:03.299 --> 00:02:05.859 to connect we can see each other we wave at each 00:02:05.859 --> 00:02:07.879 other but we don't always get that chance to 00:02:07.879 --> 00:02:09.900 really talk and spend some time and get to know 00:02:09.900 --> 00:02:12.500 each other as people and so that was I think 00:02:12.500 --> 00:02:15.039 another reason we wanted to make something a 00:02:15.039 --> 00:02:18.400 little bit more. like separate just for us that 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:20.259 that we could get to know each other and and 00:02:20.259 --> 00:02:22.020 chat and kids can get to know each other too. 00:02:22.280 --> 00:02:25.159 Sure. Yeah. So what what does this ministry sort 00:02:25.159 --> 00:02:27.379 of look like right now? What have you folks been 00:02:27.379 --> 00:02:31.659 up to? Well, last month we just started, we're 00:02:31.659 --> 00:02:33.139 just bringing the families together on a Saturday 00:02:33.139 --> 00:02:34.699 here at the church and just letting the kids 00:02:34.699 --> 00:02:38.400 kind of go free. It's nice for us because they're 00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:41.439 contained and they're comfortable in the space 00:02:41.439 --> 00:02:42.960 too. So that makes sense. And the parents, we 00:02:42.960 --> 00:02:44.360 just had a great time. We were just able to chat 00:02:44.360 --> 00:02:46.539 because the kids all just played in. Right. It 00:02:46.539 --> 00:02:49.219 was a great time. It was awesome. We had snacks. 00:02:49.479 --> 00:02:51.659 We had a bouncy castle. We had we had all kind 00:02:51.659 --> 00:02:54.500 of coloring and kids of all ages, which was really 00:02:54.500 --> 00:02:56.240 cool, too. We had some some really little ones 00:02:56.240 --> 00:02:57.979 and then some older ones. And then they just 00:02:57.979 --> 00:03:00.960 they had a blast. It was it was a crazy time 00:03:00.960 --> 00:03:04.180 downstairs. Yeah, like it was a bit of mayhem, 00:03:04.199 --> 00:03:06.580 but it was it was good mayhem for sure. Right. 00:03:06.680 --> 00:03:09.120 Yeah. OK. Yeah. So you're all sort of like getting 00:03:09.120 --> 00:03:10.919 together. There's this opportunity for the kids 00:03:10.919 --> 00:03:14.060 to sort of play together. And then, yeah, because 00:03:14.060 --> 00:03:16.539 there's like a critical mass. Right. So you don't 00:03:16.539 --> 00:03:18.400 need to be like one -on -one with your kids. 00:03:18.460 --> 00:03:20.020 So there's a little bit of time for you to sort 00:03:20.020 --> 00:03:22.159 of connect and chat and that sort of thing. And 00:03:22.159 --> 00:03:24.340 that's kind of the goal is having, otherwise 00:03:24.340 --> 00:03:27.520 we're just parenting our kids and this is an 00:03:27.520 --> 00:03:29.979 opportunity to keep them contained, but still 00:03:29.979 --> 00:03:32.039 get to chat with each other. Yeah, that's awesome. 00:03:32.199 --> 00:03:35.900 Yeah. So you started that, you've done one month 00:03:35.900 --> 00:03:40.020 so far. And when are you meeting up? So we're 00:03:40.020 --> 00:03:42.319 hoping to do the last Saturday of every month. 00:03:42.759 --> 00:03:44.500 Maybe you could speak more to that, Travis. Yeah. 00:03:44.599 --> 00:03:46.860 So the next one is next Saturday. We're sort 00:03:46.860 --> 00:03:49.460 of doing it late afternoon timing to hopefully 00:03:49.460 --> 00:03:52.599 work around everybody's nap schedule. But open 00:03:52.599 --> 00:03:54.879 to feedback on that. That time seemed to work 00:03:54.879 --> 00:03:57.520 really well. So it's just in the church basement. 00:03:57.699 --> 00:04:00.449 You just show up. with your kid and and we have 00:04:00.449 --> 00:04:02.509 a great time. So, yeah, the next one is next 00:04:02.509 --> 00:04:04.949 Saturday. So Saturday, so April 25th. That's 00:04:04.949 --> 00:04:09.009 right. Yeah. OK, awesome. So, yeah, this is sort 00:04:09.009 --> 00:04:11.430 of the ministry that you guys have been doing 00:04:11.430 --> 00:04:14.169 here. But I think, you know, you're also like 00:04:14.169 --> 00:04:16.529 in this like really sort of particular stage 00:04:16.529 --> 00:04:18.889 of life with your families right now and a stage 00:04:18.889 --> 00:04:21.370 that some people have been through. Some people 00:04:21.370 --> 00:04:23.389 are in. Some people have never been in. So I 00:04:23.389 --> 00:04:24.769 think it would be interesting sort of hear more 00:04:24.769 --> 00:04:27.240 about like, yeah, what? this has been like for 00:04:27.240 --> 00:04:31.459 you. Yeah, and so as parents of young kids, like 00:04:31.459 --> 00:04:33.899 what are some of the things that you find like 00:04:33.899 --> 00:04:37.040 really challenging about that? And yeah, how 00:04:37.040 --> 00:04:39.319 does that sort of connect with church or with 00:04:39.319 --> 00:04:43.639 faith? I would say just time, lack of time and 00:04:43.639 --> 00:04:46.240 lack of sleep are probably my two biggest challenges. 00:04:46.300 --> 00:04:49.540 Sure. It's really hard to connect with people. 00:04:49.620 --> 00:04:52.939 It's really hard to. do a lot of other things 00:04:52.939 --> 00:04:56.019 that are not solely around your child. And you 00:04:56.019 --> 00:04:57.480 could probably see even more to that with two 00:04:57.480 --> 00:05:00.459 of them. So I just think that people who have 00:05:00.459 --> 00:05:02.819 been through this season probably they recognize 00:05:02.819 --> 00:05:04.680 looking back like this. I hear it again and again. 00:05:04.819 --> 00:05:08.339 This is a very busy season of life. Yeah, yeah. 00:05:08.439 --> 00:05:10.420 Yeah, for sure. Something else I've also noticed, 00:05:10.639 --> 00:05:12.620 especially as I talk to my mom and, you know, 00:05:12.740 --> 00:05:14.360 other folks who have been through this already, 00:05:14.439 --> 00:05:17.800 maybe 10, 20 years ago. Parents now I feel like 00:05:17.800 --> 00:05:21.420 we have a lot of online community. And so there's 00:05:21.420 --> 00:05:24.779 a lot of information. There's a lot of opinions. 00:05:24.899 --> 00:05:27.680 There's a lot of pressure, but not a lot of physical 00:05:27.680 --> 00:05:31.060 spaces for us to kind of come together and actually 00:05:31.060 --> 00:05:34.300 see other parents parenting. I think we often 00:05:34.300 --> 00:05:37.319 get that highlight reel on Instagram and it's 00:05:37.319 --> 00:05:39.920 really easy to be very hard on yourself and think, 00:05:40.100 --> 00:05:42.079 oh my gosh, I'm not taking them to the zoo every 00:05:42.079 --> 00:05:45.160 weekend and I'm not able to produce this like 00:05:45.160 --> 00:05:47.519 handmade birth. day party and all these things 00:05:47.519 --> 00:05:49.980 that you see on your feed. But then when you 00:05:49.980 --> 00:05:52.120 actually get in a room with other parents and 00:05:52.120 --> 00:05:54.620 they also haven't washed their hair and they 00:05:54.620 --> 00:05:57.019 also didn't sleep last night, it's like, okay, 00:05:57.639 --> 00:06:01.500 I'm fine and I'm doing all right. So I think 00:06:01.500 --> 00:06:03.860 to the point about the Young Families Ministry, 00:06:04.040 --> 00:06:06.240 it's so important for us to physically come together 00:06:06.240 --> 00:06:09.600 just because I feel like parenting right now 00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:13.350 is in very odd. Space sure just isn't that opportunity. 00:06:13.370 --> 00:06:15.610 It's true. Yeah, like growing up. We were always 00:06:15.610 --> 00:06:19.370 with My brother's friends and their parents and 00:06:19.370 --> 00:06:21.009 we had a community of people and I think that's 00:06:21.009 --> 00:06:22.490 what we're looking to start like there's nothing 00:06:22.490 --> 00:06:25.209 better than Being able to co -parent with your 00:06:25.209 --> 00:06:27.170 friends Yeah, like it's not just you and your 00:06:27.170 --> 00:06:29.189 kid and your husband like bringing all the kids 00:06:29.189 --> 00:06:31.889 together and being able You know chat with friends 00:06:31.889 --> 00:06:33.870 and just it's more fun for everybody. I think 00:06:33.870 --> 00:06:36.920 sure. Yeah. Yeah, and I think it's nice to you 00:06:36.920 --> 00:06:39.079 know you want your kids to be safe of course 00:06:39.079 --> 00:06:40.660 but you also want them to have other influences 00:06:40.660 --> 00:06:42.540 other than just you right like you want them 00:06:42.540 --> 00:06:45.199 to be hearing other people's perspectives and 00:06:45.199 --> 00:06:47.040 open to what other families are doing and so 00:06:47.040 --> 00:06:49.620 this is kind of a nice safe way to do that where 00:06:49.620 --> 00:06:52.759 we're all sort of like -minded and you know we 00:06:52.759 --> 00:06:55.220 can all come together feel comfortable um just 00:06:55.220 --> 00:06:58.100 letting them let them loose sure yeah yeah for 00:06:58.100 --> 00:07:02.560 sure yeah so then like How does that intersect 00:07:02.560 --> 00:07:05.300 with like being part of a church community? Like, 00:07:05.339 --> 00:07:07.259 do you feel like this is a space that like helps 00:07:07.259 --> 00:07:09.839 you to do that? Well, are there things that like 00:07:09.839 --> 00:07:11.459 the church can be doing to like help you do that 00:07:11.459 --> 00:07:16.079 better? I just think that this church has been 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:18.279 great with just, you know, the kids are running 00:07:18.279 --> 00:07:21.579 around and we trap us for having this conversation 00:07:21.579 --> 00:07:24.620 like we are trying our best and people are very 00:07:24.620 --> 00:07:26.879 gracious with our kids and loving with our kids. 00:07:27.339 --> 00:07:31.589 Yeah. Even now, Sue just went and grabbed my 00:07:31.589 --> 00:07:33.069 son's favorite cookie because it wasn't on the 00:07:33.069 --> 00:07:35.269 plate for him. Like just things like that, which 00:07:35.269 --> 00:07:38.470 make our children feel loved and supported here. 00:07:38.470 --> 00:07:42.009 Sure. I think is I've seen it. So it's been it's 00:07:42.009 --> 00:07:44.649 been really great. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, 100%. I 00:07:44.649 --> 00:07:46.709 think just having, again, like, you know, when 00:07:46.709 --> 00:07:48.370 you're in a church community, there's all ages 00:07:48.370 --> 00:07:50.050 and stages, right? And so there are a lot of 00:07:50.050 --> 00:07:52.569 people here who have done it. You know, it's 00:07:52.569 --> 00:07:55.509 been nice. There are a few other moms of twins 00:07:55.509 --> 00:07:58.430 who have gone through the whole phase, and it's 00:07:58.430 --> 00:08:00.850 just nice to see that they survived and to talk 00:08:00.850 --> 00:08:03.529 to them about, like, how they did it and be able 00:08:03.529 --> 00:08:06.709 to sort of get that advice sometimes. And yeah, 00:08:06.850 --> 00:08:09.009 definitely feeling that love and support on Sunday 00:08:09.009 --> 00:08:11.389 morning. Like, I never feel you know, if we're 00:08:11.389 --> 00:08:13.370 having a little bit of a moment, I never feel 00:08:13.370 --> 00:08:15.350 like we're getting side eyes or anything like 00:08:15.350 --> 00:08:17.350 that. I think that's so important that, you know, 00:08:17.370 --> 00:08:19.670 this is a space for everybody. And it's, you 00:08:19.670 --> 00:08:21.990 know, that includes the two year old who didn't 00:08:21.990 --> 00:08:25.009 get a good sleep. Yeah. Yeah. And the mom of 00:08:25.009 --> 00:08:30.290 the two year old has gotten even worse. Yes, 00:08:30.470 --> 00:08:34.649 for sure. So on the flip side, what is really 00:08:34.649 --> 00:08:37.789 joyful or encouraging for you about being a parent 00:08:37.789 --> 00:08:40.250 of toddlers? Are there moments where you're like, 00:08:40.289 --> 00:08:43.710 oh, this is actually worth it? Absolutely. It's 00:08:43.710 --> 00:08:45.549 actually funny. I saw something the other day 00:08:45.549 --> 00:08:49.519 and it said, It's so difficult to describe the 00:08:49.519 --> 00:08:51.440 experience of parenting, especially to folks 00:08:51.440 --> 00:08:54.419 who haven't had kids, because it is so easy to 00:08:54.419 --> 00:08:57.539 describe the hard parts like we've done. You 00:08:57.539 --> 00:08:59.539 can easily put into words and everyone can kind 00:08:59.539 --> 00:09:01.159 of relate to what it feels like to have not had 00:09:01.159 --> 00:09:03.419 a lot of sleep or to be a little bit overstimulated 00:09:03.419 --> 00:09:07.620 with noise. the great parts are so hard to describe. 00:09:08.639 --> 00:09:11.139 You know, it's so impossible to put words to 00:09:11.139 --> 00:09:13.559 that feeling when, you know, you've been out 00:09:13.559 --> 00:09:15.700 for a little bit on an errand and you come home 00:09:15.700 --> 00:09:17.379 and your kid just like runs to you with their 00:09:17.379 --> 00:09:19.820 arms open, like mommy's home, you know, like 00:09:19.820 --> 00:09:23.019 that is impossible to put into words. And so 00:09:23.019 --> 00:09:24.820 as much as I think it sounds like, you know, 00:09:24.919 --> 00:09:27.039 a lot of times parents are like, ah, there's 00:09:27.039 --> 00:09:28.860 so much bad going on. I think it's just because 00:09:28.860 --> 00:09:32.700 it's so hard. to articulate how amazing it is 00:09:32.700 --> 00:09:35.139 and how much it fills your heart when those moments 00:09:35.139 --> 00:09:37.340 happen. Right. Because it's not like feeling 00:09:37.340 --> 00:09:40.340 that you get. It's not like, oh, this thing happened 00:09:40.340 --> 00:09:42.879 that was cool. Like sometimes maybe. But yeah, 00:09:42.899 --> 00:09:44.600 it's that feeling. And there's nothing like it. 00:09:44.799 --> 00:09:47.059 There's really just nothing like it. Yeah. Yeah. 00:09:47.440 --> 00:09:49.259 Especially like the toddler age, you get to see 00:09:49.259 --> 00:09:51.879 like their personalities develop, right? And 00:09:51.879 --> 00:09:54.600 just like. They're starting to do things like 00:09:54.600 --> 00:09:56.240 my son's just like learning to ride his bike 00:09:56.240 --> 00:09:58.100 and like just seeing those moments and feeling 00:09:58.100 --> 00:10:01.860 so proud. And yeah, yeah, you can't really describe 00:10:01.860 --> 00:10:04.059 that. You're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's it's 00:10:04.059 --> 00:10:07.120 kind of magical. And to see how they like just 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:10.259 absorb stuff, you know, you'll you'll be talking 00:10:10.259 --> 00:10:11.840 to them and you're like, oh, they don't they 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:13.440 don't really listen to me. Right. And then then 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:15.980 you'll hear them say exactly the same thing that 00:10:15.980 --> 00:10:18.000 you told them last week to like their friend 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:19.940 at school or their sibling. And so it's like, 00:10:20.019 --> 00:10:23.509 oh, wow. OK. It's getting in there and, you know, 00:10:23.690 --> 00:10:25.129 they're they're growing and they're listening, 00:10:25.389 --> 00:10:26.669 but, you know, they just have to take their time 00:10:26.669 --> 00:10:29.370 with it. But that's really cool. Oh, they're 00:10:29.370 --> 00:10:32.830 hilarious. They're so funny. No filter. They 00:10:32.830 --> 00:10:36.049 just they just say the best things. I just find 00:10:36.049 --> 00:10:42.100 I I do laugh a lot. OK, yes. Yeah, I have a notes 00:10:42.100 --> 00:10:44.580 app with with all the funny quotes and we do 00:10:44.580 --> 00:10:46.120 on their birthday every year. We do a fill in 00:10:46.120 --> 00:10:48.580 the blank. OK, people try to guess like what 00:10:48.580 --> 00:10:51.679 was the ridiculous thing they say. Yeah, it's 00:10:51.679 --> 00:10:57.309 it's a good idea. Yes, that sounds lovely. Oh 00:10:57.309 --> 00:11:00.169 man, do we have any funny quotes or funny stories 00:11:00.169 --> 00:11:01.850 that we want to share at this moment? You're 00:11:01.850 --> 00:11:03.909 like, ah, this, my kid did this this week and 00:11:03.909 --> 00:11:08.309 it was hilarious. I have one, I can't share it, 00:11:08.429 --> 00:11:10.809 but there's, he just does, he's in the washing 00:11:10.809 --> 00:11:16.789 humor phase right now. Yeah, it just brings out 00:11:16.789 --> 00:11:18.909 my like inner child, I guess. Like, I just am 00:11:18.909 --> 00:11:20.909 dying when he says some of the things he says, 00:11:21.129 --> 00:11:23.549 especially like around my parents who are more 00:11:23.549 --> 00:11:26.429 proper. That's the best. Yeah, that always gives 00:11:26.429 --> 00:11:29.710 me a good laugh. So, yeah, I know he's that's 00:11:29.710 --> 00:11:32.730 where we're that's where we're at. Yeah, it's 00:11:32.730 --> 00:11:35.710 a real stage. Yes, it is. And you think you can 00:11:35.710 --> 00:11:37.169 avoid it and you think it's not going to happen 00:11:37.169 --> 00:11:40.129 to you. And then and then it does. Yeah. Yes. 00:11:40.490 --> 00:11:43.279 Yeah, we were going over there is. a child in 00:11:43.279 --> 00:11:45.500 the class who was nicknaming everybody and my 00:11:45.500 --> 00:11:47.899 kids don't like to be nicknamed and so I was 00:11:47.899 --> 00:11:50.259 like oh no I've got nicknames for you so I'm 00:11:50.259 --> 00:11:52.179 gonna go through them and yeah you know check 00:11:52.179 --> 00:11:54.019 that they're all okay and so he asked my son 00:11:54.019 --> 00:11:56.100 you know can I still call you buddy and he looks 00:11:56.100 --> 00:12:00.340 me in the eyes he says you can call me sir wow 00:12:00.340 --> 00:12:04.039 okay then I don't think he knew why that was 00:12:04.039 --> 00:12:09.320 so funny but like And so now I call him sir and 00:12:09.320 --> 00:12:14.539 he hates it. That is so funny. Yeah. Oh man. 00:12:14.779 --> 00:12:18.600 They just don't understand sometimes the like 00:12:18.600 --> 00:12:20.960 associations of words, right? And so they say 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:24.600 things. All right. That's something. That is 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:27.659 really good. That's my favorite one lately. That 00:12:27.659 --> 00:12:32.899 is a good one. Yeah. Yes. You're so funny. Yeah, 00:12:32.919 --> 00:12:34.419 and I think like you were talking about, you 00:12:34.419 --> 00:12:36.519 know, getting to see kids like develop in their 00:12:36.519 --> 00:12:38.620 personality. And so like over the past year, 00:12:39.000 --> 00:12:42.200 my partner's niece is now like just over two. 00:12:42.200 --> 00:12:45.799 Yeah. And like to see her like developing language 00:12:45.799 --> 00:12:48.659 and being like, whoa, I'm like having a conversation 00:12:48.659 --> 00:12:50.399 with you. Like you're a real person. You're a 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:54.519 real person with ideas and feelings. Yeah, it's 00:12:54.519 --> 00:12:56.679 so cool. Yeah, it's a really cool thing to see 00:12:56.679 --> 00:13:02.240 for sure. Yeah. Yeah. So when you think about, 00:13:02.240 --> 00:13:05.200 you know, other other folks, other at church 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:07.299 or in your family or in your life, like, what 00:13:07.299 --> 00:13:10.539 are some ways that people can be helpful or supportive 00:13:10.539 --> 00:13:16.659 for parents of young kids? I'd say listen first 00:13:16.659 --> 00:13:19.960 and maybe sometimes restrain the urge to give 00:13:19.960 --> 00:13:23.279 advice. Yeah, I think it's so important to understand 00:13:23.279 --> 00:13:26.919 where somebody is at. first before you sort of 00:13:26.919 --> 00:13:29.179 embark on that. I know as a twin parent, I've 00:13:29.179 --> 00:13:31.740 gotten a lot of advice that is simply impossible 00:13:31.740 --> 00:13:34.159 to implement because there were two of them. 00:13:34.159 --> 00:13:36.059 And, you know, you just can't rock two to sleep 00:13:36.059 --> 00:13:39.019 at the same time, for instance. Yeah. And often 00:13:39.019 --> 00:13:41.700 we've heard it, right. It's just for whatever 00:13:41.700 --> 00:13:44.860 reason. Yeah. Things have fallen off the track. 00:13:44.860 --> 00:13:47.159 You know, either it's lack of sleep or too much 00:13:47.159 --> 00:13:49.879 going on or somebody got sick or whatever. So 00:13:49.879 --> 00:13:53.080 I would just say, like, I think just being there 00:13:53.080 --> 00:13:57.149 and and saying I hear you and you know is there 00:13:57.149 --> 00:14:00.950 anything I can do or do you need help is super 00:14:00.950 --> 00:14:03.950 helpful rather than sort of assuming that that 00:14:03.950 --> 00:14:05.929 you know because I think you know every parent 00:14:05.929 --> 00:14:07.870 once they get through certain stages I think 00:14:07.870 --> 00:14:10.289 they they write their own little handbook for 00:14:10.289 --> 00:14:13.529 their kids at that age. But what I've experienced 00:14:13.529 --> 00:14:15.950 is that the handbook is not transferable. It 00:14:15.950 --> 00:14:19.409 doesn't necessarily, you know, apply to another 00:14:19.409 --> 00:14:22.470 child. And so, yeah, I would just say just being 00:14:22.470 --> 00:14:25.450 there and being a friend and being like an adult 00:14:25.450 --> 00:14:27.929 to like, you know, realizing that parents are 00:14:27.929 --> 00:14:30.230 still adults and still want to have like an adult 00:14:30.230 --> 00:14:32.590 conversation. Sure. Not just about the kids. 00:14:32.649 --> 00:14:35.450 We love talking about our kids, but we also love 00:14:35.450 --> 00:14:37.690 to, you know, just connect as people to. Yeah, 00:14:37.710 --> 00:14:40.029 for sure. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. I would agree 00:14:40.029 --> 00:14:43.049 with that. I would agree. Yeah, a lot of advice 00:14:43.049 --> 00:14:44.929 and we, as you said, we see it on social media 00:14:44.929 --> 00:14:48.769 too, right? We're constantly bombarded with advice 00:14:48.769 --> 00:14:52.049 from like the teachers, from other parents, from 00:14:52.049 --> 00:14:56.570 our parents. Yeah, so I would agree. Just listen 00:14:56.570 --> 00:14:59.009 and try and hold in the advice because sometimes 00:14:59.009 --> 00:15:01.370 we just need to vent. Really we do. And sometimes, 00:15:01.529 --> 00:15:03.889 you know, we want, we also just, I like to see 00:15:03.889 --> 00:15:06.090 when other people love my kid and just interact 00:15:06.090 --> 00:15:08.210 with them. I think that's really special to me. 00:15:09.409 --> 00:15:11.629 And so I think that... just have been part of 00:15:11.629 --> 00:15:14.669 those good moments as well as also great. Yeah, 00:15:14.830 --> 00:15:20.070 yeah, for sure. Yeah. And that like, yeah, I 00:15:20.070 --> 00:15:21.769 think I think like when you talk about, you know, 00:15:21.809 --> 00:15:23.929 like co -parenting with your friends, like those 00:15:23.929 --> 00:15:26.529 other adults who like love on your kid. Right. 00:15:26.549 --> 00:15:29.389 Like it's it is that community piece that I think 00:15:29.389 --> 00:15:32.549 is is really important and helpful. Yeah. You 00:15:32.549 --> 00:15:34.409 see it missing. Like you see it missing with 00:15:34.409 --> 00:15:37.049 other like with his schoolmates and like other 00:15:37.049 --> 00:15:39.169 friends. You see that kind of in our society. 00:15:39.169 --> 00:15:42.399 It's really it's not the same as it was with 00:15:42.399 --> 00:15:46.299 just, I guess, the age we live in. And I think 00:15:46.299 --> 00:15:49.320 it's so important to the kids. Yeah, for sure. 00:15:50.759 --> 00:15:54.340 Are there ways that you think like being a parent 00:15:54.340 --> 00:15:58.100 has like challenged your faith or your understanding 00:15:58.100 --> 00:16:00.519 of God in some way or like been helpful in that 00:16:00.519 --> 00:16:03.950 journey? It kind of makes you go back to the 00:16:03.950 --> 00:16:08.669 beginning. I've been starting the explanation 00:16:08.669 --> 00:16:12.590 with my kids now in a more concrete way of, why 00:16:12.590 --> 00:16:14.889 are we coming to church? What does it mean when 00:16:14.889 --> 00:16:18.009 we're asked to pray? What should we be doing 00:16:18.009 --> 00:16:20.070 during that time? And it really does make you 00:16:20.070 --> 00:16:23.570 kind of go through it all. from like a five -year 00:16:23.570 --> 00:16:25.389 -old level, which I think is kind of helpful. 00:16:25.470 --> 00:16:27.649 And then they ask sometimes really insightful 00:16:27.649 --> 00:16:29.490 questions to your point, like where they just 00:16:29.490 --> 00:16:31.169 kind of come up with these things and you're 00:16:31.169 --> 00:16:33.769 like, wow, okay, I have to like take a second 00:16:33.769 --> 00:16:37.169 and think about that. And so that's been kind 00:16:37.169 --> 00:16:41.330 of cool to sort of revisit the basics. Yeah, 00:16:41.330 --> 00:16:43.750 that's how it's been for us so far. Yeah, yeah. 00:16:44.129 --> 00:16:47.529 I think that and like seeing, you get to see 00:16:47.529 --> 00:16:49.909 kind of Jesus again through a child's eyes. Like 00:16:49.909 --> 00:16:52.549 the other night Callihan was just like, I want 00:16:52.549 --> 00:16:55.289 to love everyone because Jesus loves everyone. 00:16:55.429 --> 00:16:58.509 And just like, yeah, yeah, Jesus loves me so 00:16:58.509 --> 00:17:00.450 much and he's proud of me and like he'll say 00:17:00.450 --> 00:17:02.970 things like that. And I'm like, I don't know 00:17:02.970 --> 00:17:05.410 if I've ever said like those exact words to you. 00:17:05.430 --> 00:17:07.309 So it's interesting. It's not just like repeating 00:17:07.309 --> 00:17:10.950 what I say to him. Right. So it's kind of, yeah, 00:17:11.049 --> 00:17:13.829 like having that child's eye view that we used 00:17:13.829 --> 00:17:15.950 to have or I used to have growing up, growing 00:17:15.950 --> 00:17:18.359 up in the church that. Yeah, of who Jesus is. 00:17:18.460 --> 00:17:20.680 It's really cool to see. It's just it's not tainted. 00:17:20.980 --> 00:17:23.440 It's not, you know, influenced by other things 00:17:23.440 --> 00:17:27.380 at this point. So, yeah. Yeah. And experiencing 00:17:27.380 --> 00:17:29.380 them hearing the stories for the first time is 00:17:29.380 --> 00:17:31.259 kind of cool, too. Like, I think feel like my 00:17:31.259 --> 00:17:34.609 kids for the first time really. took in Easter 00:17:34.609 --> 00:17:38.150 this year. I got a lot of questions about a lot 00:17:38.150 --> 00:17:42.890 of things. But just, you know, of course we hear 00:17:42.890 --> 00:17:45.430 it every year, right? And so for us, it's almost 00:17:45.430 --> 00:17:49.650 routine. And so to see like that sort of shock, 00:17:49.890 --> 00:17:52.650 right? All these things that happened and then 00:17:52.650 --> 00:17:55.170 what happened next and then who did that? And 00:17:55.170 --> 00:17:58.430 why did they do that? It's kind of interesting 00:17:58.430 --> 00:18:01.250 to see something that we just take as, you know, 00:18:01.250 --> 00:18:04.509 part of the routine. having like groundbreaking 00:18:04.509 --> 00:18:07.890 for them. Yeah, kind of cool. Yeah, cuz it's 00:18:07.890 --> 00:18:13.329 like, like kids. They like haven't heard the 00:18:13.329 --> 00:18:17.130 story maybe as many times, but like even they 00:18:17.390 --> 00:18:19.430 They like ask questions about it because they're 00:18:19.430 --> 00:18:22.089 so used to storytelling, I think, right? Like 00:18:22.089 --> 00:18:23.910 we read kids these books and they're like, OK, 00:18:24.009 --> 00:18:25.730 this happened and this happened in this person. 00:18:26.190 --> 00:18:28.910 And then when we like go back to the Bible, we 00:18:28.910 --> 00:18:31.349 don't necessarily tell those stories in the same 00:18:31.349 --> 00:18:35.009 way to adults. But then when we tell them to 00:18:35.009 --> 00:18:36.750 kids, it's like, oh, actually, let's connect 00:18:36.750 --> 00:18:39.289 all the dots again. Yeah. Yeah, that's so cool. 00:18:40.009 --> 00:18:45.690 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah So if folks are sort of listening 00:18:45.690 --> 00:18:47.990 and thinking okay, this sounds really cool You 00:18:47.990 --> 00:18:49.609 guys sound like cool people want to hang out 00:18:49.609 --> 00:18:52.170 with you and your kids What are some ways that 00:18:52.170 --> 00:18:54.670 folks can learn more about the young families 00:18:54.670 --> 00:18:58.009 ministry here at Trinity? Well, you can always 00:18:58.009 --> 00:19:00.029 approach us on a Sunday morning. We're happy 00:19:00.029 --> 00:19:03.269 to chat Both our husbands as well. Eric and Luke 00:19:03.269 --> 00:19:07.069 are happy to chat I guess email the church too, 00:19:07.069 --> 00:19:09.269 and they've been passing along all the questions 00:19:09.889 --> 00:19:12.490 to you guys, to you and Luke specifically, so. 00:19:12.670 --> 00:19:15.630 Yeah, and really, there's no barrier to entry, 00:19:15.730 --> 00:19:18.009 you just show up. Great. Show up at the church, 00:19:18.069 --> 00:19:20.869 I think it's at four o 'clock on Saturday. Yeah. 00:19:21.890 --> 00:19:24.190 And we'll be here and we'll have stuff going 00:19:24.190 --> 00:19:26.670 on and it'd be great, great to connect, especially 00:19:26.670 --> 00:19:29.589 we both go to the morning service and so it's 00:19:29.589 --> 00:19:31.130 been really nice to connect with some folks who 00:19:31.130 --> 00:19:33.250 we don't usually see who go to the later service. 00:19:33.269 --> 00:19:36.930 Yeah. But yeah, feel free to join us. And hopefully 00:19:36.930 --> 00:19:39.230 we'll have some more different kinds of things 00:19:39.230 --> 00:19:41.930 going on soon once we sort of get established. 00:19:42.569 --> 00:19:45.250 Yeah. Yeah. Sounds great. OK, cool. Yeah. Anything 00:19:45.250 --> 00:19:47.549 else you folks wanted to share as we sort of 00:19:47.549 --> 00:19:49.869 end off? You think about, you know, parenting 00:19:49.869 --> 00:19:53.569 and life and parenting and life? No, we're just 00:19:53.569 --> 00:19:56.470 going on with our busy Sunday. It's totally fair. 00:19:56.670 --> 00:19:58.210 Just totally fair. Yeah. Really appreciative 00:19:58.210 --> 00:20:00.700 that. We've been able to start this group. I 00:20:00.700 --> 00:20:03.819 think, yeah, we've there's a lot of young families 00:20:03.819 --> 00:20:06.380 here. So it's been so nice. And so just really 00:20:06.380 --> 00:20:09.220 thankful to everybody who supported this. and 00:20:09.220 --> 00:20:12.099 help us make it happen. Yeah, agreed. Yes. Well, 00:20:12.099 --> 00:20:13.900 thank you so much for joining me, folks. And 00:20:13.900 --> 00:20:16.480 thank you for tuning in to this week's episode 00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:19.559 of Trinity Talks. Hopefully, whether you are 00:20:19.559 --> 00:20:21.640 a parent of young kids looking for some community, 00:20:21.640 --> 00:20:24.440 you can find that here or find that in the spaces 00:20:24.440 --> 00:20:26.920 where you find yourself. And if you know parents 00:20:26.920 --> 00:20:29.420 of young kids, I just hope that this has also 00:20:29.420 --> 00:20:31.460 been an encouragement to you that you can find 00:20:31.460 --> 00:20:33.519 some ways to continue pouring into them and helping 00:20:33.519 --> 00:20:36.299 them build up a community that raises our kids 00:20:36.299 --> 00:20:38.160 well. And we'll see you again next week. Bye.