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Hello and welcome to this week's episode of Trinity

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Talks. My name is Kyla and I'm really excited

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to be joined by three of the young adults here

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at Trinity who also all happen to be... heading

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up our young adults ministry here. And we're

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going to chat a little bit more about what that

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looks like and what it is like to be a young

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adult in the church today. So thank you so much

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for joining me, folks. Thank you. Thanks for

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inviting us. So maybe we'll just start by you

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can introduce yourself a little bit, sort of

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say your name, whatever you'd like to sort of

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say about yourself. And then what sort of really

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got you interested in helping to coordinate this

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young adults ministry? Maybe we will start right

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here. Sure. My name is Zion. And I used to be

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the youth leader here. So some of you may know

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me. But I recently stepped down from that position

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because I just graduated from school. I was looking

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for a different job. And so part of what led

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me to want to volunteer when Rob asked me was

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because I was kind of missing my church involvement.

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So being able to step in and fill in. for this

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role with the experience that I already had of

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you know how to communicate with some of the

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people around in the Trinity community and kind

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of how that whole process works kind of just

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made sense and it's something that I enjoy doing

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I love hanging out with the young adults and

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in my church community so yeah okay cool thank

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you yeah what about for you hey I'm Eileen I

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only went to Trinity Probably since summer 2025.

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So that's so recent. The reason why I want to

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be involved in this ministry is that I just love

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organizations and like hanging out with people

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my age. And I've always been involved in like

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ministry since I was a baby practically back

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home too. So I thought it would be cool to like

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sort of like find my own place here and like

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to know people and get. deeply involved in the

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church. So that's why I said yes when Sally and

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Rob asked me to coordinate this. And what about

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for you? Hi, I'm Chris. I'm actually, I think,

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one of the youngest young adults. So coming out

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of the high school age and going into the young

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adult age and getting into university, I think

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it's a big change for all of us. And Sally actually

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talked to me about this, and she said this was

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one of the main reasons that she asked me to

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be a part of leading the young adults ministry,

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just because it can be scary going from one group

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to a different group. And it's really important

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for all of us to have a community, especially

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a solid, fixed one where we meet regularly and

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we become familiar with each other really well

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and comfortable enough to share and talk about.

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anything that may be going on in our lives. So

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I think that was a big reason. Also, just like

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Eileen and Zion, I've been a part of ministries

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my whole life. So I think this is a great way

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to get into a new one, which will, you know,

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bring us all closer together in our age group.

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Yeah, no, that's awesome. Yeah, I think it's

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neat. Like you all have sort of come to Trinity

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like at different times, but you're all coming

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like with this wealth of experience and with,

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yeah, a desire to just like. Get to know each

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other, which I think is awesome. Yeah. So what

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does the Young Adults Ministry at Trinity look

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like? What are some of the types of things that

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you folks do? Yeah. So far we've been doing a

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social once a month. Okay. Since I think it was

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June. Okay. June or July. It was in the summer.

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End of summer. Yeah. Oh. Maybe. Anyways, not

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important. We've been doing socials once a month.

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We have an Instagram page just for the young

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adults where we post polls about different activities

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that we could do for that month, and then they

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vote on it, and then they also get four to five

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dates that they can choose from, and then whatever

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works for the most people, we arrange that and

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communicate that through our Instagram, and we

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have a massive group chat with everyone also.

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And then recently we started doing... small group

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also which we focus more on like um actual bible

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stuff and talking about the sermons whereas these

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once a month socials are just just social just

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like just find out yeah and get to know everyone

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yeah okay cool yeah so what are some of the things

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that you folks have done like as part of the

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different social events that you're doing it's

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like very connected to the season okay like during

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the summer we did like a pool party yeah a pool

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party and then what else like oh the bonfire

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night okay that was fun yeah it's like so random

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but i feel like this is the beauty of like being

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in a young adults ministry that because we are

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just like super busy with our schedules and everyone

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goes to different school in different cities

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and um it's just the trend changes every season

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every year so i think we try to follow with that

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like to see like what's fun nowadays and what

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the people are doing so we sort of like try to

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hear from the people. Again, we have a big group

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chat where we sort of ask for people's opinions

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on what to do next. So I think that's pretty

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cool. That's pretty laid back at the same time.

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Cool. Yeah. We also did like pumpkin carving

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in October. And gingerbread in December. And

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in January, our most recent one, we did a worship

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night. Okay. So that was fun too because we were

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getting some feedback that yes, the social nights

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are great because we all want community and connection.

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But we're also kind of maybe missing out a little

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bit on like the God aspect and, and that whole

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side of things. So that's why we also started

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our life group, um, which none of us are technically

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like leading, but we, we go to, um, so yeah,

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that was nice to incorporate. And our, our next

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event, not official. First time. Air riders.

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Yeah. We're going to air riders. Oh, fun. Hopefully

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that'll be exciting. Nice. So do you have like

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a favorite memory or a favorite like event that

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you've done so far? Something that like stands

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out to you? Sounds like there's been lots of

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different things. Yeah. Yeah. Chris? I think

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our gingerbread night. Okay. It was really good.

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Yeah. And it was like, it was fun because it

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was kind of, it was a competition. Okay. So we

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had like different groups, but then we also like

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got together. Right. And, you know. Mm -hmm.

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We just collaborated the entire time. Oh, and

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we had a great game night afterwards. So that

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was fun. So we all got in a big group afterwards

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and just played games, cards, and stuff. Describe

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for me the winning gingerbread house. What did

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this gingerbread house look like? I think that

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was Aileen's, right? That was me. That was me

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and Mia and Alex, if I remember correctly. We

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finished so quick. I think we finished our gingerbread

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house the quickest like we did in 30 minutes.

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The best one with the least effort. Right? Yeah.

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Sometimes you just don't have to think about

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it. Yeah. But I think everyone had lovely gingerbread

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houses. I think Crystal did like a very detailed

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and like intrinsic. um design okay she was like

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super passionate about it with her team too yeah

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rylan got into it right yeah maya got into it

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and zion on the other hand ours didn't go so

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well our icing was like broken like we couldn't

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get it out properly but we still got second place

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it was totally rigged okay right well you know

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it was fun right yeah Cool. Cool. Yeah. What

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about for you folks? What are some like favorite

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memories or things that you've enjoyed? My favorite

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like social gathering was probably the pool party.

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Okay. But most recently I've really been enjoying

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the life group too, because it's just more consistent

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and it's kind of like a mix between getting time

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to like review the sermon questions and have

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some Bible study time, but still also being silly

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and. seeing all my friends and stuff. Sure. Yeah.

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Sharing lunch together. Right. Three birds with

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one stone. There you go. So food, friends, and

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Jesus. Yes. That's all you need. Love that. Okay.

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Yeah. What about for you, Eileen? Any favorite

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memories? I agree with that. And I actually really

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like the new life group because I think with

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the life group, we have the chance to talk. with

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each other like every single person we get to

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know each person more deeply than just like having

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a big social night so i really like that for

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us and we also get to know like each other's

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personality because we go in circles and like

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ask questions um also um we get to um talk about

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like more casual daily life because we meet every

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week so i think that's like a great way to connect

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and sort of like build connection a real connection

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with everyone and like a more deeper basis sure

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yeah yeah oh that's awesome are there things

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like from those conversations together like is

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there any like learnings or things that have

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like really stood out to you or been really impactful

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i know you've only been meeting for a few weeks

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now right but yeah what's what's that been like

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i feel like yes but i forgot what they were Moderately

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impactful. Obviously hearing about different

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people's perspectives, especially since some

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of the people in our group are like international

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students. So we get to hear like different perspectives

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that I never even thought of because I was born

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in Streetsville. Right. I've been here my whole

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life. Yeah. So just like hearing like stories

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and being able to like, like Eileen said, like

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get actually personal with each other. I think

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like more than any like specific teachings or

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anything. Sure. Like. feeling the actual connection

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and like the friendship and like being able to

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share with each other and openly like express

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our feelings and even if it's good or bad anything

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I think that's the most impactful for me at least

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because yeah the sense of community is I really

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feel it already even though it's been like two

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or three weeks yeah yeah no that's awesome like

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just yeah that need to like go deeper with each

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other and like yeah I get to figure out all of

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life and and faith and all the hard things you

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just get to like throw it there together definitely

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yeah for sure and i think i'd like to sorry i'd

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like to add to that from my perspective because

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i'm an international student so this is only

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my third year in canada so i'm like freshly very

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fall be fresh of the boat um so for me for me

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this is like my first true real canadian experience

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where i am finally really immersed in my society

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like my surroundings so i get to know how is

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it like living life here and how people that

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like grew up here interact with their family

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and their friends and how like the education

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is in here and how like they perceive their social

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community beside them surrounding them so I feel

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like that's really cool. Also like to practice

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like my, you know, sometimes there are just like

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some certain lingo or like some social context,

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like communal context that you just don't really

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get until you are in full for the people. So

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for me, actually, it's like a very big opportunity

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for me to practice. I wouldn't say practice,

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but like to actually get to know the Canadian

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culture. Sure. And how. Yeah, and how people

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my age especially live here. So that's been really

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interesting. So I literally have friends who

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are from here now. Right. So that's pretty new

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for me. Because in school, everybody is also

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international, so it's very hard to get a good

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grasp of what the city is. But I think in the

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heart of Streetsville, I finally know how people

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live here. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty cool.

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It's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. So... um like why do

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you think it's important for young adults to

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have a space to gather like in a church context

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as opposed to you know just like at school or

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wherever else in the world like what makes it

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special about like being part of this here um

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yeah i mean every day there's like awful things

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released on the news yeah and it's so depressing

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and it's really hard to talk about especially

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like just like with your your friends you know

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that you have in school everything everyone's

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already stressed out from school sure and then

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there's just there's lots of there's lots of

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negativity right now going around in the world

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and so I find that at least for me my friends

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like out of church don't really like talking

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about that kind of stuff that's happening in

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the world, just because they're like, you know

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what, we need to just chill out and watch a movie,

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a funny movie or something like that. But I think

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the community that we have here and the fact

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that we're so comfortable with each other in

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church and, you know, obviously church is all

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about addressing the uncomfortable topics and,

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you know, overcoming them with the people around

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you and the community around you. I think it's

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been a lot easier for us, for me to open up.

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to my church friends about that and i think i

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think that's why it's so important that we have

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this group because otherwise without without

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talking to you guys about this who else am i

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going to talk to in about and i'm going to get

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even more overwhelmed and just build and build

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sure it's so nice to be able to share with people

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like -minded people here yeah yeah just like

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grounded in the same values and yeah yeah just

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that willingness to talk about the hard things

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definitely yeah for sure yeah and also it gives

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me like a reason to go to church because for

00:14:04.159 --> 00:14:06.240
me i don't have any family here so if i go to

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church it would just like me getting up by myself

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and going to church sure so sometimes it could

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get a little lonely or like i would say like

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quote -unquote like pointless if i just like

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go to church and like go home and like know what

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right now that we have a community we have a

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sense of like um belonging and we have friends

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that we actually know and we talk with after

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church it gives like a little more um reason

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to just like wake up in the morning and go to

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church because church isn't just like about the

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doctrine or just like um listening to the sermons

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and like taking notes but it's more to like how

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we apply it to like everyday life and people

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so we get to practice the gospel there and yeah

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it's always good to have like a sense of belonging

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and community and like a place where um especially

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nowadays not a lot of young adults are known

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for being in church so that's really like tricky

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because like not a lot of young adults are in

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church unfortunately so i think with having people

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my age that i can relate to that so um we can

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still talk about the gospel but also at the same

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time have the same contextual um contextual feeling

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like we have the same humor for example we have

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the same conversations that we talk about like

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school and work so I feel like those really help

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us to stay in church so that's really important

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yeah for sure for sure community is yeah it's

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just such an important part of like what we do

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here and so to be able to like find your people

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right is super important and it's nice we started

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sitting together in the same room that's so funny

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yeah the small group right after the second service,

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we're kind of all pushed to come to the same

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service at the same time. We end up sitting together

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and just going down together. So that's been

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nice. Yeah, our own row in the back. Especially

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because young adults are always late and we're

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slowly coming in. Yeah, we're just right in the

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back. So the back row is pretty much the key

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for that. But back to your original question,

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I also like the fact that we meet. at the church

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and know that we have this like safe space that

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we can come to. And like some of you said already,

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like we, and Kyla mentioned, we have like the

00:16:18.370 --> 00:16:20.590
same values and we're able to be supported by

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people who have a faith background, which I think

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is really important because you don't always

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get that with some of your other friends and

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you can have different types of conversations

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and support and grow in that part of your life

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as well. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. So when you think

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about like, you know, Being a young adult trying

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to follow Jesus today, what are some of the challenging

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parts of that? What are some of the things that

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make that frustrating or hard at different points?

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Oh, I think it's like very undeniable that Christianity

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has unfortunately been used to justify a lot

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of bad things in the past. Sure. So I think that's

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sort of why like the younger generation, we sort

00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:05.640
of think like, oh, you know, Christianity is

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evil. And so it's like really uncool that you're

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super traditional, the quote unquote, and like

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you are still like abiding to the thing that

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people used to like hurt others. So that could

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be a little bit tricky because. it could get

00:17:17.769 --> 00:17:20.829
complicated. Like we can just like sit down,

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sit someone down and say like, look, Christianity

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isn't always bad. So it's like always very like

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tricky for us. So a lot of young adults nowadays,

00:17:28.769 --> 00:17:31.130
they just like shove it down and like, oh, like

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I'm a Christian, but like, yeah, let's not talk

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about it. So it could be deemed as like uncool

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if you're still like. practicing christian nowadays

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so those are definitely very challenging so we

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tend to like hide our identity as a christian

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but i totally get it like i'm not saying like

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christianity is like a hundred percent like pure

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and like like like we're always like up to something

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good but like unfortunately some people are um

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people are people and people and people so um

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yeah um yeah like I totally get it, like, both

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sides of this coin. But, so that's the tricky

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part, I think. Yeah, for sure. What do you guys

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think? Yeah. I think it's hard sometimes, just

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to be honest, to, like, make it to all the events.

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Sure, that too. Because we have young adults,

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our social is usually on, like, a weekend. Yeah.

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And then we have... School. School and work.

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And then we have our, like, pretty much Sunday

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is, like, until Sunday, like... The better part

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of Sunday is also taken out because now we have

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our young adults group, which is, it's fine.

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These are all great things. We all like coming

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out. It's just that it's like. It's just like

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another thing. Sometimes it's not viable enough.

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Especially if you have exams coming up. Yeah.

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Stressful. Oh, yeah. Yeah, for sure. For sure.

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Yeah. There's a lot going on. Definitely. Right.

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Yeah. Yeah. Those were kind of the two things

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that I was thinking, too. Like, to add to what

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Eileen was saying about, like, Christians don't

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always have the best rep right now. Yep. Like,

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I went to a young adult's conference, like, worship

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night or something. This was, like, a year ago

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now or something like that. Maybe even two. Like,

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it was in March at some point. Okay. So, March.

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But, yeah, I was with, like, a group of friends.

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One friend was like, oh, I can finally find a

00:19:20.319 --> 00:19:22.000
nice Christian man. And I was like, oh, yeah,

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that's true. I was like, wait a minute. How are

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you going to do that? We're surrounded by Christians,

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which is so sad. And it's heartbreaking because,

00:19:31.440 --> 00:19:34.279
yeah, you want to find someone who has the same

00:19:34.279 --> 00:19:37.819
beliefs and values as you. But there's so many

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different types of Christians. And, yeah, they

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don't have a good rep. And even it's affecting

00:19:41.339 --> 00:19:44.960
me. Even I don't have a good view of Christians

00:19:44.960 --> 00:19:49.970
now, too. Right. And I am one, so... No, I feel

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that. Conflict of interest. Yes. Yeah, it's unfortunate

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that sometimes... the loudest people are like

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not the most helpful people like especially in

00:20:04.680 --> 00:20:06.519
terms of like a christian reputation sometimes

00:20:06.519 --> 00:20:08.619
we're like yeah i'm a christian but like not

00:20:08.619 --> 00:20:10.940
that kind of christian right yeah no i'm a good

00:20:10.940 --> 00:20:13.619
one i'm a good one but every all christians think

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they are the good ones yeah right yeah so yeah

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i definitely feel that like trying to like navigate

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and figure out like how do i faithfully follow

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jesus right in a world where people think that

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they know what that means right but they maybe

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don't know what it means like to me right but

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it's like so complicated at the same time but

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and also it's very hard because like we have

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a bad rep it's hard to like actually make friends

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with people within the christian community sure

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because we also i mean i kind of like think that

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oh maybe this is like not the good christians

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so it can get really tricky especially with the

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like conflicting events and like we can't really

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get um get together in the church so with that

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in mind and also like the bed rep that's why

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like young adults don't really like have a big

00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:06.440
interest in the gospel anymore sure so that's

00:21:06.440 --> 00:21:10.190
really side to hear. Yeah, for sure. I think

00:21:10.190 --> 00:21:12.589
our group is great for that because since we,

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we can talk about stuff like this openly and

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we kind of have been, and I guess it's nice because

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we're, it seems like we all have the same idea

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of like separating like our faith from like,

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like the worldview of like Christianity. And

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like, we're not trying to follow like Christianity,

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but we're trying to follow Jesus. Right. And

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I think that's like a main thing. And not a lot

00:21:37.849 --> 00:21:40.829
of, you can't really say that, like, and have

00:21:40.829 --> 00:21:43.069
people understand you always. Sure. But I think

00:21:43.069 --> 00:21:45.529
within our group, at least, we kind of have the

00:21:45.529 --> 00:21:50.250
same, like, view of, like, yeah. Yeah, you're

00:21:50.250 --> 00:21:52.009
able to, like, say stuff like that and, like,

00:21:52.009 --> 00:21:54.190
people resonate with it. They get it, yeah. Ah,

00:21:54.250 --> 00:21:57.210
yeah, no. Not that crazy of a take. Me too, right?

00:21:57.569 --> 00:22:00.670
Yeah. And it's not like we all agree on everything.

00:22:00.849 --> 00:22:04.750
Sure. But we're able to have these helpful, respectful

00:22:04.750 --> 00:22:07.279
conversations that... kind of sometimes just

00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:09.599
lead to more questions. But I think that's good

00:22:09.599 --> 00:22:14.079
because it's just, it's healthy dialogue to like

00:22:14.079 --> 00:22:17.779
help fuel our faith. Like I know since we started

00:22:17.779 --> 00:22:20.140
doing that, I've just had more questions and

00:22:20.140 --> 00:22:22.900
more interest to like find out what, because

00:22:22.900 --> 00:22:25.460
I have, I know what I believe, but I'm kind of

00:22:25.460 --> 00:22:27.759
now like, well, why do I believe that? What makes

00:22:27.759 --> 00:22:30.930
me believe that? So it's been. kind of pushing

00:22:30.930 --> 00:22:32.970
me to want to read the Bible more and actually

00:22:32.970 --> 00:22:35.529
like find out the answers. I mean, not that I

00:22:35.529 --> 00:22:39.089
will be able to find all the answers, but, but

00:22:39.089 --> 00:22:40.470
then going back to what Chris said about not

00:22:40.470 --> 00:22:42.369
having enough time, like I'm so busy doing everything,

00:22:42.450 --> 00:22:46.470
but it's hard to always go and find time to read

00:22:46.470 --> 00:22:48.410
the Bible, which again is why it's so nice to

00:22:48.410 --> 00:22:50.230
be able to come and meet at the church where

00:22:50.230 --> 00:22:52.750
I'm going to be anyway. Right. And have this

00:22:52.750 --> 00:22:54.849
nice group of friends to talk to. Yeah. Yeah.

00:22:55.190 --> 00:22:59.819
That's awesome. Um, so is there something, Because

00:22:59.819 --> 00:23:01.680
we have lots of different folks who are listening

00:23:01.680 --> 00:23:05.619
to our podcast. Some would be young adults, some

00:23:05.619 --> 00:23:08.019
are not. Are there things that you wish that

00:23:08.019 --> 00:23:11.200
more people understood about your generation

00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:14.559
and about how young adults are interacting with

00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:16.759
the world today? That you're like, ah, if I could

00:23:16.759 --> 00:23:20.579
tell them one thing or two things, what might

00:23:20.579 --> 00:23:28.480
that be? I mean, stop polluting. Yes. We have

00:23:28.480 --> 00:23:33.000
to live in this world. I mean, I don't really

00:23:33.000 --> 00:23:38.019
know. To be honest, as a young adult, and this

00:23:38.019 --> 00:23:41.460
is not true for all young adults, but I'm a chill

00:23:41.460 --> 00:23:45.680
and laid -back person, so I don't really have

00:23:45.680 --> 00:23:47.619
anything to... You just need people to know that

00:23:47.619 --> 00:23:49.799
you're chill and laid -back, I guess. Sure, yeah.

00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:56.599
Elaine, you got it. Yeah, you got that. I'm still

00:23:56.599 --> 00:23:58.839
thinking about it. I want people to know about

00:23:58.839 --> 00:24:00.880
the adults. I don't know. I feel like people

00:24:00.880 --> 00:24:03.960
have been young at some point in their life once,

00:24:04.039 --> 00:24:07.759
so they know how it's like. Well, yeah. You'd

00:24:07.759 --> 00:24:15.400
hope, yeah. But do you think being young in 2026

00:24:15.400 --> 00:24:21.700
is different than being young in 2000? Because

00:24:21.700 --> 00:24:24.960
now we have social media. Yeah. And is that,

00:24:24.980 --> 00:24:29.099
how's that working out? You know, I love social

00:24:29.099 --> 00:24:32.059
media. I spend all day on it. Yeah, super busy,

00:24:32.099 --> 00:24:35.019
hey? I have no time to read the Bible because

00:24:35.019 --> 00:24:37.519
I'm scrolling for too long. Which is actually

00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:41.759
true. So if you're older, just know that our

00:24:41.759 --> 00:24:46.759
attention span is now too small. probably everyone

00:24:46.759 --> 00:24:49.000
is insecure because we're all comparing ourselves

00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:52.380
to other people online. And it's hard to, it's

00:24:52.380 --> 00:24:56.380
also hard to be open to different things, I think,

00:24:56.400 --> 00:24:58.640
because sometimes when you're on social media,

00:24:58.759 --> 00:25:01.140
like you're the algorithm will just continue

00:25:01.140 --> 00:25:03.319
to give you things that you probably already

00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:07.539
believe. So that's maybe why, um, like there's

00:25:07.539 --> 00:25:10.119
so there's different extremes now for Christianity,

00:25:10.220 --> 00:25:11.539
right? Like we were talking about, everyone thinks

00:25:11.539 --> 00:25:13.339
that they're the right Christian because whenever

00:25:13.339 --> 00:25:15.240
you're scrolling, You're just going to be constantly

00:25:15.240 --> 00:25:16.960
flooded with more things that you agree with.

00:25:17.059 --> 00:25:21.180
And it's just constantly reinforcing your beliefs.

00:25:21.460 --> 00:25:26.339
Yeah. Fair. Yeah. It's a tough cycle. I mean,

00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:29.619
that was just one random thing about social media.

00:25:29.660 --> 00:25:33.799
Fair. This is what social media means. It shocks

00:25:33.799 --> 00:25:37.240
it easily. Yeah. Again, with the social media

00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:40.559
thing, it's kind of. it's become harder for us

00:25:40.559 --> 00:25:43.759
to like socialize and like i feel like there's

00:25:43.759 --> 00:25:47.880
like a like i don't know it's just harder for

00:25:47.880 --> 00:25:51.599
groups to like our age to like interact and like

00:25:51.599 --> 00:26:01.480
so it's yeah i think back in the days like people

00:26:01.480 --> 00:26:04.279
had nowhere to go like if you want to like connect

00:26:04.279 --> 00:26:06.339
with others you have to actually come to a place

00:26:06.339 --> 00:26:09.549
and like gather yeah so they have a lot of more

00:26:09.549 --> 00:26:12.950
a lot more motivation for them to like actually

00:26:12.950 --> 00:26:16.910
get together with like their community so maybe

00:26:16.910 --> 00:26:19.470
that's why like this is just like my hypothesis

00:26:19.470 --> 00:26:23.430
like my assumption is that that's why like the

00:26:23.430 --> 00:26:27.990
church sort of um are more active in the past

00:26:27.990 --> 00:26:30.430
because that's where that's the one place where

00:26:30.430 --> 00:26:32.890
people can like gather sure but now because we

00:26:32.890 --> 00:26:34.849
have a lot of responsibilities we have a lot

00:26:34.849 --> 00:26:37.329
of it like activities at a lot of groups and

00:26:37.329 --> 00:26:40.150
most of them happen online yeah is that what

00:26:40.150 --> 00:26:42.089
you mean yeah exactly it's harder to connect

00:26:42.089 --> 00:26:45.930
yeah like we just have like we tend to have really

00:26:45.930 --> 00:26:53.029
bad social skill like in person yeah and also

00:26:53.029 --> 00:26:55.309
i feel like a lot of misconception that people

00:26:55.869 --> 00:26:58.710
make about the younger generation is that we

00:26:58.710 --> 00:27:02.309
do not care enough or like we are like less informed

00:27:02.309 --> 00:27:05.390
but I feel like the case with us is that because

00:27:05.390 --> 00:27:10.069
of the interconnected space that we are in right

00:27:10.069 --> 00:27:13.910
now like the digital cyberspace we have a lot

00:27:13.910 --> 00:27:15.930
of information coming in and we have a lot of

00:27:15.930 --> 00:27:18.809
things that we could decipher in our own mind

00:27:18.809 --> 00:27:21.190
so that's why like we tend to get like overwhelmed

00:27:21.190 --> 00:27:26.109
so that's why we tend not to very we're not we

00:27:26.109 --> 00:27:28.430
tend to not be very proactive about a certain

00:27:28.430 --> 00:27:32.069
topic because we know that oh not a lot of people

00:27:32.069 --> 00:27:34.329
like agree with us like we know the pro and cons

00:27:34.329 --> 00:27:37.250
of that so we are more scared to talk about it

00:27:37.250 --> 00:27:41.789
because we like the world was not supposed to

00:27:41.789 --> 00:27:45.690
be as interconnected as it is today so i think

00:27:45.690 --> 00:27:48.289
that's why like the older generation they are

00:27:48.289 --> 00:27:52.000
they tend to be more focal about their opinions

00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:55.279
because that's what they believe in and that's

00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:57.880
what their family believes in and that's um how

00:27:57.880 --> 00:28:02.359
like their friends think about that topic but

00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:07.220
for us we know like a broader view sure a more

00:28:07.220 --> 00:28:09.460
like global sure it's like information overload

00:28:09.460 --> 00:28:12.380
yes yes so we tend to like oh i don't know about

00:28:12.380 --> 00:28:13.680
it like i don't know i don't want to talk about

00:28:13.680 --> 00:28:15.700
it because not because we don't know about it

00:28:15.700 --> 00:28:18.750
but we know that it could get very complicated

00:28:18.750 --> 00:28:23.569
and political and it's very multifaceted. So

00:28:23.569 --> 00:28:26.289
that's why we're afraid to make a very concrete

00:28:26.289 --> 00:28:35.609
point on it. So I think that issue can be further

00:28:35.609 --> 00:28:38.990
connected to why we are not as involved in the

00:28:38.990 --> 00:28:41.650
church or involved in the Christian community

00:28:41.650 --> 00:28:43.910
because we know that it tends to have a very

00:28:43.910 --> 00:28:46.819
bad rep and it tends to have a very... political

00:28:46.819 --> 00:28:53.180
misunderstandings. So that's why we kind of step

00:28:53.180 --> 00:28:59.819
back and be not very vocal about it. Sure. Because

00:28:59.819 --> 00:29:05.380
of that. So I think that's why the older generations...

00:29:05.799 --> 00:29:07.640
likes to say like oh the younger generations

00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:09.720
are not as active we're not as social right now

00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:13.099
because now that we know a lot of things so it's

00:29:13.099 --> 00:29:14.839
like the the curve right like the more you know

00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:16.900
like the more you're you know that you don't

00:29:16.900 --> 00:29:21.599
know a lot of sure things so so i think yeah

00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:24.160
yeah yeah i don't know that's what i meant to

00:29:24.160 --> 00:29:28.200
say when i said chill and laid back yeah yeah

00:29:28.200 --> 00:29:31.400
because yeah because you're confused right yeah

00:29:31.400 --> 00:29:34.019
it's not you don't you don't know it's like you

00:29:34.019 --> 00:29:39.420
know enough to be confused about it and be scared

00:29:39.420 --> 00:29:43.579
about it. So maybe. What did I just say? I don't

00:29:43.579 --> 00:29:46.480
know. No, I think that's totally fair. I second

00:29:46.480 --> 00:29:51.750
that. There's just like all of this. information

00:29:51.750 --> 00:29:55.029
right so like overload yeah so like processing

00:29:55.029 --> 00:29:58.329
to figure out in the midst of really busy lives

00:29:58.329 --> 00:30:00.529
exactly and in the midst of being told right

00:30:00.529 --> 00:30:02.410
now you need to figure out who you're gonna be

00:30:02.410 --> 00:30:04.690
exactly like how you want to live your life and

00:30:04.690 --> 00:30:06.109
like all of these things right like there's a

00:30:06.109 --> 00:30:07.990
lot of pressure yeah a lot of things are in our

00:30:07.990 --> 00:30:11.809
place so we're just like yeah yeah no for sure

00:30:11.809 --> 00:30:16.250
and i also think that people think that our generation

00:30:16.250 --> 00:30:20.430
is really lazy but Because, you know, we're always

00:30:20.430 --> 00:30:24.150
on social media or whatever. But we actually

00:30:24.150 --> 00:30:26.430
work really hard. It's just the cost of living

00:30:26.430 --> 00:30:30.029
is too high. So high. Inflation. We can't afford

00:30:30.029 --> 00:30:33.970
to do anything. We can't get a job because we

00:30:33.970 --> 00:30:37.809
need five years of experience to get a job. But

00:30:37.809 --> 00:30:40.329
we have no experience because we just graduated

00:30:40.329 --> 00:30:42.470
school or we just started school. Started school.

00:30:42.910 --> 00:30:45.769
Yeah. Because the hustle culture is very real.

00:30:45.950 --> 00:30:50.700
Sure. Right. Because our, like. um rivals have

00:30:50.700 --> 00:30:53.359
been like very successful like if you're like

00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:55.279
scrolling linkedin or even on instagram like

00:30:55.279 --> 00:30:57.500
people are like announcing their oh i just got

00:30:57.500 --> 00:30:59.240
this i just got an internship i just got this

00:30:59.240 --> 00:31:01.259
and that and you're like oh i'm so behind in

00:31:01.259 --> 00:31:04.680
life so that's really hard so because again we're

00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:08.920
we as humans we're not supposed to see this many

00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:11.460
comparisons in our life before before like social

00:31:11.460 --> 00:31:14.039
media and now because like we are very connected

00:31:14.039 --> 00:31:17.420
and we can see whatever people are doing on the

00:31:17.420 --> 00:31:20.460
other side of the globe even. So we are, like,

00:31:20.480 --> 00:31:22.500
stuffed with a lot of, like, comparisons and

00:31:22.500 --> 00:31:25.380
a lot of things that people do and achieve in

00:31:25.380 --> 00:31:27.579
life. So I think that's why we tend to, like,

00:31:27.720 --> 00:31:31.099
get very self -conscious about ourselves. Yeah,

00:31:31.220 --> 00:31:35.079
for sure. For sure. Yeah, I think it's interesting,

00:31:35.160 --> 00:31:37.000
like, hearing all of these different reflections

00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:38.779
and, like, all these different challenges and

00:31:38.779 --> 00:31:41.700
things that you guys are facing. And, like, in

00:31:41.700 --> 00:31:45.119
the midst of it all, you have sort of come together

00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:47.990
and said, like, We're going to like figure it

00:31:47.990 --> 00:31:51.630
out together. Right. Like we are all in the same

00:31:51.630 --> 00:31:53.650
boat. And so like, we're going to come together

00:31:53.650 --> 00:31:57.210
and like have some fun and like talk about Jesus

00:31:57.210 --> 00:32:00.630
and like talk about how crazy life is and how

00:32:00.630 --> 00:32:02.910
we don't have time for things. And the internet

00:32:02.910 --> 00:32:05.990
is a depressing place. Talk about all of these

00:32:05.990 --> 00:32:09.190
things, but like do it in joy and community together.

00:32:09.490 --> 00:32:12.589
Definitely. Yeah. And like. I don't know, even

00:32:12.589 --> 00:32:14.569
just like this conversation, I think has been

00:32:14.569 --> 00:32:17.289
full of lots of joy. Oh yeah. Even as, even as

00:32:17.289 --> 00:32:19.470
you've been like, these things are stressful,

00:32:19.509 --> 00:32:23.289
but like there's, there's joy in, in that, in

00:32:23.289 --> 00:32:27.109
coming together and figuring it all out. So yeah.

00:32:27.630 --> 00:32:30.349
Yeah. Thank you so much folks. This has been

00:32:30.349 --> 00:32:33.789
a really fun conversation. Um, and I think really

00:32:33.789 --> 00:32:37.509
helpful on two fronts. One, just to like give

00:32:37.509 --> 00:32:40.730
us a better insight into like what life is like

00:32:40.730 --> 00:32:43.880
for, 20 somethings today and like how, how all

00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:47.200
of that fits together. Yeah. And then to just,

00:32:47.339 --> 00:32:50.039
again, as an encouragement for those who are,

00:32:50.220 --> 00:32:53.220
you know, trying to figure out life right now

00:32:53.220 --> 00:32:56.799
that they don't have to do that alone. Totally.

00:32:57.000 --> 00:33:07.240
Come to young adults. Yeah. Cut that part out.

00:33:12.220 --> 00:33:16.220
Got clipped. I knew it was going to be. These

00:33:16.220 --> 00:33:21.099
things happen. Too often. Too often. And thank

00:33:21.099 --> 00:33:23.839
you for tuning in to this week's episode of Trinity

00:33:23.839 --> 00:33:26.359
Talks. Whether you are yourself a young adult

00:33:26.359 --> 00:33:29.160
looking for a place of encouragement and comfort

00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:30.839
in the midst of the challenge of this world.

00:33:31.289 --> 00:33:33.230
or whether you are just someone who knows and

00:33:33.230 --> 00:33:35.289
cares about young adults. I hope that you've

00:33:35.289 --> 00:33:39.029
been able to find some encouragement, some challenge

00:33:39.029 --> 00:33:42.470
to build your own spaces of community and to

00:33:42.470 --> 00:33:44.369
care for one another well in the midst of this

00:33:44.369 --> 00:33:46.869
really crazy world. And we will see you again

00:33:46.869 --> 00:33:47.309
next week.
