Hello, everyone, and welcome to this week's episode
of Trinity Talks. My name is Kyla. I'm Britton.
I'm still Bill. And we are here to wrap up our
Advent conversation. Christmas is coming, folks.
Oh, no. Yeah. I don't know if we feel ready for
that or not. Theoretically, we've had four weeks
to get ready. but I don't know. Spiritually.
Spiritually. Yes. Yes. And that is a very different
thing than logistically. Yes. Yes. Or commercially.
Or commercially. Yes. Yes. Yes. But we have lit
four Advent candles and all that is left on our
wreath is the Christ candle, which of course
doesn't get lit until Christmas Eve. And the
fourth candle in our Advent candles in the Advent
wreath is the candle of love, which is very nice,
I think. Yeah. Yeah. And it's also, I guess,
traditionally the Sunday where like one of the
readings would be Mary's Magnificat. Yeah. And
so like, I don't know. I feel like those things
go well together in my mind because Mary's like
talking about. like she's so mary the mother
of jesus and like obviously there's a lot of
love there between mother and child but then
mary's magnificat this like song about the coming
of jesus is all about like god's love coming
and like yeah changing things i think so that's
pretty cool receiving god's love responding to
god's love yeah yeah it's pretty cool stuff um
yeah so when you think about love um first before
we get into like what that is like I don't know.
What's like, do you have like a memory or like
a feeling or like a thing that comes to mind
when you're like, ah, that's love? Peppermint
heart candies. Okay. So it's a very specific
flavor. Yeah, I eat a lot of that during Valentine's
Day. And if I can get my hands on it outside
of that, then yeah. But that's like my visual
representation of love is peppermint heart candies.
Okay. But different from Valentine's Day love,
which would be cinnamon. flavored oh no sorry
it's cinnamon oh my goodness you're correcting
me yeah my flavors are so off That's wild. That's
disrespectful to the candy brand. Hopefully they're
not sponsoring it. I like peppermint. Peppermint
love candies. It's cinnamon. The little red hearts
you're talking about. Those are cinnamon. Not
peppermint. Maybe they exist. If they were peppermint,
I would like them better. I'm not a big fan of
cinnamon hearts. Oh, okay. Wow. Okay. Peppermint
hearts on the fourth Sunday of Advent next year.
Okay. Great. Love that. We're putting it out
there. Yes. Yeah. Okay. What about you, Bill?
Is there like a visceral like thing that's like,
this is love? Yeah. I think when I think of love,
I think of, I just think of moments of family
and not even great moments. Just like all four
of us driving in the car, you know, be driving,
we're going somewhere, we're going somewhere
as a family or I'm driving around dropping everyone
off different places or something. It's just
like family in action, family in motion, just
all together, safe. Yeah, you know that. I mean,
yeah, that's that's that's the deep, visceral
kind of feeling of just, you know, wanting to
take care of people and see people getting where
they're going, not only on the day of the drive,
but through life. Sure. And yeah, so that's that
sense of. A family when the the recognition of
it existing is a great thing. And the understanding
of its absence and its effects is the negative
thing. Sure. So if it's there, amazing. If it's
not, then we miss it. Yeah, it's traumatic. Yeah,
sure. Yeah. I think when I think about love sort
of similar, there's no like, ah, this big moment.
It's like, oh, no, like the little like cozy
moments, you know, and just like being with the
right people, like drinking a cup of tea. like
last night like sitting on the sofa with my partner
just like watching tv like just like chill you
know this is love yeah and it sounds lovely we
had an experience yesterday where um a friend
of mine uh their two senior uh folks were in
the area in my neighborhood so they came to to
my house and they just sat with my wife and i
and we just talked for like hours in trinidad
they call it a lime when you're just hanging
out there's no end time or anything it turned
into like a stop, turned into dinner. Uh, and
I made this meal that is like very Trinidadian
that I never made before. And I was able to give
it to them and they had it. And, and that when,
when they left, uh, I was just so overjoyed.
Maybe joyous candle I'm referencing, but like
there was this. like this feeling of kinship
that I had with them. And it was, yeah, there
was some, we couldn't pinpoint it. We were trying
to figure out why is it this house feels more
bubbly since they left. And I think it was just
that sharing together that time, which is over
Christmas, we do, right? We spend so much time
with family and friends and just getting a bit
of that in our home was. was joyous for people
that acts of service is a, is a, is an expression
of love. So it's, yeah, it's no surprise that
when you're had the opportunity to, to show your
love to your friends and family, that it felt
good. It felt beautiful. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I
think like love. It naturally sort of sort of
comes hand in hand with Christmas, at least for
for a lot of folks, not for everybody, for sure.
But, yeah, there is as we think about getting
closer to this Christmas season, as we think
about getting together with friends and family
and that like relaxed time. Like, yeah, love
is is what comes to mind there. So then we think
about these different aspects of love is when
we think about love in like a biblical sense,
is it? sort of the same as some of these things
that we've just been describing? Are there some
differences between like how we are talking about
love and the way that the Bible talks about love?
Yeah, I think like if I come back to my example,
like something about that felt like there was
this bubbliness. It's like a feeling. I'm confident
as the evening wore on, it probably faded a little
bit and I got tired and went to sleep and I forgot
about it. But I think love in the Bible is like
agape. And agape love is like a principled love.
It doesn't sway with the seasons or with emotion,
but it's there. It's steady. It's consistent.
And I think that's the kind of love that God's
calling us into, not necessarily one that moves
with our emotions. Those things are a part of
our life, but it's something consistent and solid
and principled. Yeah. So it's like, I think it
can be like some of those feelings sometimes
do accompany like a biblical love, but it's also,
you're right. Like something that's a little
more sort of solid. Yeah. I guess. Yeah. I think
our expression of love, uh, is a facet of, of
God's love. Um, the, uh, it's, uh, like Brett
was saying, it's not as, uh, you know, it may
not be as, as permanent or as consistent or as,
you know um uh always um uh they are accessible
as as human love but it is uh it is our It's
our expression. It's God's love flowing through
us. So God's love is the perfect love. And in
the Advent season where that love is God sending
Jesus as the gift to the world at Christmas,
there's no greater love than that. God for so
loved the world that He gave His only begotten
Son, right? That is the kind of... full and perfect
love that, um, um, that God makes available to
us. Uh, and then there's the, and then there's
our expression of that, that love, which is,
which is, you know, our, it's our human love,
but it's, but it's a, it's a divine love that
flows through us. And I think that's different.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like the, the source of that
love is God first, not us first. Yeah. And there's
a, there's a trans transformative element to
that too, that, uh, that we're God's love flowing
through us. Uh, it, it, uh, changes, uh, what
we do and how we act. Um, and, uh, and, and also,
you know, changes us from the inside out. Yeah.
Or at least it can't. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. For
sure. yeah i think the other thing that i think
about like god's love and then like ideally our
love is that like god's love just doesn't have
a limit um and it doesn't have a limit on any
one person it's not like okay if you do this
this this and be like god will stop loving you
or like after this amount of time god will stop
loving you but also God's love doesn't have a
limit on like, it's like width on like how many
people it sort of extends to. And so then if
our job is like followers of Christ, it's like
live that kind of love. Then like our love doesn't
get to have limits either, which is hard and
scary. Hard? Yeah. I think that's why it's principled,
right? So like the two greatest commandments
is to love God and to love your neighbor. And
I think what... what God is what's what's happening
there is like you know sometimes your neighbors
are not great yeah or there may be people you
like have uh like problems with there could be
deep conflict that is happening there and what
God is asking you to extend in loving your neighbor
is not something that's moving with emotion because
emotion can move if I'm in conflict like when
I was a kid and I was in conflict with my siblings,
like, oh my gosh, like we didn't, I don't want
to talk to this person. But love for what that
means for me to love them is to know like, even
in. I'm not loving you because of what you've
done. Right. Just as God is not loving us because
of anything that we've done. Sure. God is loving
us because God is love. And for us, it's to remember
that, to remember that when we as humans were
not lovable, God loved us in the same way we
are supposed to love others. Right. With that
same type of expression. Yeah. Yeah. That's good.
I was going to say something similar to that
by saying, you know, that. Advent love is God
sending Christ to us. And it transforms us. And
then the next part of that is acts of service.
Like Britt was alluding to. It can't just be
a feeling. It can't just be that love inside
us. It needs to flow out of us. And I was thinking
of an analogy for this. The perfect vessel versus
the broken vessel in terms of containing God's
love in us. And I think we as humans are broken
people. And I think a lot of us, in order to
feel comfortable receiving love, feel like we
need to be the perfect vessel that will hold
God's love and contain it. And I don't think
that's how God's love works. I think God's love
is supposed to flow through us. I think it's
almost like the design is as a broken vessel,
as God's love is being poured into us, is seeping,
is pouring out in the cracks all over the place,
all over everything else. And as opposed to the
perfect vessel that we think we're supposed to
be, where we go, okay, God, I got enough love.
I'm full. You can go away now. I'm great. Just
saw me all by myself. I'm like, I'm content.
There you go. And the, but it's, but it's, but
in the broken vessel, you know, God is pouring
his love and it's, and it just pours out onto
all the other people around you, which I think
that's the point. Sure. And then you're just
going, you know, keep pouring God. It's coming.
It's spilling everywhere. I'm not, I'm not full
yet. Keep going. Keep pouring. Right. And we're
part of that flowing of God's love into the world.
So the call to action. was a super a huge part
of the advent love and god's gift and yeah and
and what we're meant to do with with the with
that love and that sacrifice that christ has
done for us yeah the other thing like i sometimes
think about like the order that the candles are
placed in i'm wondering you know who decided
this and why and whatever but like love seems
like a really good place to end it not not that
like it's over but like to sort of put in this
part of the sequence because to me i think about
like okay hope is where we sort of started like
yeah we need that first and like christmas is
still a long way off so we need some time for
hope and then like okay peace is like yeah like
peace is the thing we're all hoping for and then
joy it's just like you know a little levity in
the middle and love as like i think of love as
like the primary reason for Jesus coming, right?
Like all of the other reasons that Jesus has
come kind of fit under the like category of love.
Um, and sometimes I think that we think of like,
Jesus came to like die on the cross and this
is true, but I don't think it's the only reason
Jesus came. Right. And like that moment on the
cross summarizes love, but like love, is present
in like all of jesus's life i think right like
in the way that he interacts with other people
in the fact that like the son of god was like
i'm gonna become a person now who like has limits
and like will be hungry and like experience life
like that i think of as a kind of act of love
like yeah just like all of jesus Yeah. Well,
I mean, certainly you've got hope. Yeah. You've
got joy. You've got peace. Yeah. But I've heard
from a very reliable source that all you need
is love. Yes. This is true. The Beatles, the
Beatles Bible. Yes. All you need is love. Yeah.
So then, okay. When you guys think about like
the life of Jesus and this idea of love, like,
How did like, just like reflect on that? Like
what is, how does Jesus's life like reveal God's
love to us? Hmm. Are there ways that, yeah. Like,
so like I said, I think the first thing that
I think of is like Jesus's interactions with
other people. Yeah. Just like first and foremost,
they're like always based in a spirit of like
love. Yeah. Yeah. I definitely see like the way
that I think from the moment. Christ was born
to the moment he died and was resurrected. The
people he was surrounded by give us a picture
of what salvation will look like and what the
body looks like. I think that he was. He was
there with his parents, but he was in a stable
with a bunch of animals. Very humble, but also
was visited by the wealthy and by the poorest
of the poor, by those who were wise and by those
who society would consider simple or unintelligent.
everyone was in that mix. And I think that narrative
continues or continued, uh, and it continues
and it's, uh, and so, yeah, I think that's, I
think that's one way. Um, cause I think what
love pushes us to do is for us to one, um, be
humble. Uh, two, I think for many of us be uncomfortable.
Uh, sometimes it's cause it could be hard to
love. Um, I've, I've worked in some conditions
where, you know, there's people who are, who
I don't want to love because they've, they've
said mean things to me or, uh, they have a prejudice
or discriminatory views of me. And, but I love
them anyway. Um, because I know that that's what,
that's what Christ has done. not just as an example,
but has done to me. Um, so yeah, I think I can
go on and on and on and on and on, but yeah,
I think the people that God surrounded him, that
Jesus surrounded himself with, uh, were a true
example of what that love looks like in action.
Yeah. Yeah. I think there, ultimately it's the,
um, the sacrificial. uh, redemptive love of Christ
on the cross. I mean, that's the, that is, um,
uh, you know, everything, Jesus' life and ministry
builds up to that. Uh, and so that is the, that
is the ultimate expression of, uh, of God's love
for us. Um, but I think, uh, I think like Britt
has said is that, you know, the, we, um, uh,
we experience, uh, or know, uh, love in a lot
of the, day -to -day examples of Jesus' life
and ministry, of caring for others, of looking,
of, you know, recognize and lifting up the least
of these, you know, healing their sins as opposed
to their physical ailments, recognizing that
it was, you know, their spirit and their heart
that needed healing first, and then the bodily
healing came second, right? So just demonstrating
or experiencing that love on a day -to -day basis
with his closest friends and with people that
he ministered to. They're all great examples.
Yeah. And I think that loving... The people who
are hard to love is like, that also shows up
in Jesus's life. Like he, he loves the outsiders,
but he also in like one of the stories that I
think about is when there's this rich young ruler
who like comes to Jesus and he's like, Jesus,
I really want to follow you. And Jesus is like,
okay, so sell everything you have, give it to
the poor and then come follow me. And the young
man is like, I can't do that. And he walks away.
what the gospels then say is like jesus looked
at him and loved him and like even though this
man couldn't make that hard choice even though
he didn't ultimately turn around and follow jesus
jesus looked at him and loved him right and yeah
so it's like not about the choices that we make
or don't make it's god just loves yeah it just
is yeah yeah yeah and loving and like the understanding
like while i know the person I'm in relationship
with might not be in the place that I, or I believe
that God wants them to go. Sure. I love them
anyway. Yeah. And pray for them and love them
into what God is calling them into knowing that
God is doing a good work and that God can, we
don't know the end of the story for the rich
young ruler. Right. Yeah. But God loved him anyway.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I think like, so then as
we think about that, like it's, it's, one thing
to sort of look at, okay, what did this look
like in Jesus's life? But like, what does it
look like for us to love the people who are hard
to love? Um, and like, especially, I think it's
one thing to sort of like love the people who
are hard to love that. Like we don't need to
interact with regularly and be like, ah, I love
you. I'm going to like show compassion, like
think the best towards you. And then, okay. So
that's like one type of person. And then there's
the other type of person who's like, I, interact
with you on a regular basis and this is clearly
a hostile relationship right like how do i love
that person like what does that look like interesting
well i think uh first and foremost by necessity
i think we need to uh figure out how to love
our friends and family of course we're around
them all the time yes and the um and that might
sound strange to say but i but i think i mean
But when love is not just a feeling, but it's
a discipline, right? It is like some of the other
themes of Advent. We're saying that it is a gift
of God, but it's also something that we can grow
and develop in ourselves. And so sometimes, sometimes
we need help to love the closest ones around
us. And I think there's, there's another layer
of relationships that a circle that goes out
beyond there, which might be coworkers and, and,
you know, people in the community and things
like that, that some, some we like, some we don't
like, but we're called to, we're called to love.
So what does it look like to, to love them? So
we kind of figured that out. And then I think
there's I think there is another group of people
that we might not necessarily associate with
on a day -to -day basis unless we're involved
in community programs and stuff, and that's the
homeless and the hungry. And as the Bible says,
the poor and the naked and the sick. And so I
think that is also a group of people in our community,
in our society, that we need to think about,
oh, how do we show? How do we express our love?
How do we express God's love through us to that
particular people group? Is that about making
a donation? Is that about showing up? Is that
about helping as a group? Is that about helping
as an individual, like volunteering with a group
of people or volunteering on your own someplace?
What does that look like? I think we're called,
I think God calls us all to express love for
the least of these among us. So our question
is, what does that look like for us? What does
that look like for me to do that? That answer
is going to be different for different people.
But I think it needs to have... our the our expression
of god's love needs to have an element of that
sure or it's not god's love in its fullness it's
yeah it's something that's both like very practical
and yeah extends to each of these circles as
you were just saying it's a it's a selfless love
it's a practical love and it responds to uh the
needs of others in the community yeah yeah for
sure for sure yeah yeah I won't be too critical,
but like, not critical of you, but I'm just thinking
about love and I'm thinking about like, it's
very easy for us to. say, within our local communities
that we're loving. But most of the people within
our circles are people that are like us. We tend
to be attracted to people that are, you know,
like similar things, probably have similar cultural
backgrounds and similar socioeconomic backgrounds.
Like those are the things that like usually tie
us together. Sure. So I often ask myself. uh
when I look around and I think about like who
who am I loving who who do I care for if I'm
just caring for folks that are just like me um
and there's we can have a whole conversation
on demographics and how people like find themselves
in physical spaces and all that because that
plays a role in it but I think there's lots of
opportunities where we intentionally leave out
or find convenient ways to not love people that
are not like us in various ways. And it's easy
to do that. It's easy for us to like, you know,
take the go transit. And as we make our way through
the lines, just like ignore the people that are
sitting there on the side. It's probably also
easy for us to ignore people that have different
like political views or ideologies and not extend
love to them. I think the question for us truly
is like, what is if love is not just this like
cute feeling? um, or a convenient habit, then
like, what does that principle love look like?
What does it mean for me to show up and love
people who I might deem hard to love? Um, or
yeah, what does that look like? And I think that's
a, it's an exercise that we're, as God reveals
himself to us, we will learn more about that
looks like. Um, yeah. So I, yeah, I don't have
like an exact, like an exact answer to like what
it, what it can look like, but I know what it,
I know what's challenging. Um, but I know what
it does for me when I start feeling like I just
want to like throw people away and I don't want
to extend love to them. Then I come back and
I'm like, okay, well, I remember when I was.
worse off than I am now or more challenging in
in my or critical of of individuals of myself
and all these things and God loved me anyway
and God used people to like those broken vessel
pieces use those broken parts to flow love through
me to me um so I think that's like as we remember
where we were and where we are I think that can
help us in just being just open to to loving
people in a principled way. Yeah. Like as I reflect
on like what both of you have sort of been saying,
like, I think about there's like, maybe not one
thing that we can say, okay, this is what love
looks like. But I think there's a series of questions
that we can ask ourselves, right? There's a like,
okay, so like, who are we loving? And like, who
are we maybe leaving out of that love? And we
can ask ourselves, okay, like, how am I loving
them? And am I loving them? in ways and at times
where it just like feels convenient and easy,
or am I still showing up when it feels hard or
when it feels costly? Right. And like, I think
the other thing is you were like thinking about
these circles of people and like starting with
friends and family. The thing that I reflected
on was like, sometimes we can think we are loving
our friends and family well, but they don't necessarily
feel well loved. And I can see that. And so,
maybe it's worth asking your close friends and
family, like the people that you live with, Hey,
do you feel loved? And like, I don't know, maybe
that's a weird question to ask just like that
out of the blue, but like find some way to like
bring that about and be like, Hey, like what
do I do that? Or what do I not do that? Like
makes you feel cared for that makes you feel
like you belong, whatever, however you want to
sort of word that. Right. Well, that's that's
why I think. Yeah. And that's why I think love
is both a gift and a discipline. Right. Yeah.
I think I think we are we are gifted. We are
made to to love. And the but I but I think it
also takes it also takes work. So I think I like
you're saying you have you have your friends
in your family and you express love to them.
And I think that is that is. That is part of
what's needed, but it's a very basic level of
expression of love. I think as you grow in your
understanding of faith and what love is and different
kinds of love, then you grow and you develop
to the point where you can not just... express
generic love but you can but you you then uh
understand that people receive love in different
ways right and that it's not just the that one
love that kind of love that that kind of makes
that works for everybody and and so you begin
again that's that's the work of of love in a
relationship is right is understanding how they
receive love and learning to show love in a way
that that they receive even understand it yeah
yeah yeah for sure for sure yeah yeah love is
something like i feel like we like talk about
it and we think i know what that is i know what
that feels like but like it's complicated yeah
and it's yeah yeah it's like it's something that
you said bill where it was like um In Christ
healing people, he healed their spiritual needs,
their spiritual, their sins, and then also their
physical needs. And I'm trying to connect how
I got this, but the thought that's coming to
me is like there's... God shows up in a particular
way that meets our moment and meets our specific
needs. So I'm not going to do the same thing
for every single person. I'm going to do what's
needed for that person in that time. And I think
Christ was the greatest example of that, right?
What we needed was a savior and we needed someone
to be our substitute. Uh, Christ could have just
said, well, I'm just going to sit back and I
know what they need, but I'm not going to do
it. But what he did was he came as a baby and,
and lived as a man and died on the cross to,
to pay for our sins. Um, so yeah, I think like
what, what love really looks like is it's one,
you have to be in relationship with people to
know what their needs are, to know what their
specific needs are and then, and then be that,
um, in that way. my caution though is like don't
like there's healthy ways to do that sure and
there's unhealthy ways to do that don't lose
yourself yeah so how can I show up in the way
that I am uh that meets your need in that unique
way um yeah yeah and I think like in the like
thinking about healthy ways and unhealthy ways
of doing that like sometimes the healthiest way
that like I can show you love is actually to
say Hey, Britain, I understand you have a need
right now. Here's somebody who can like actually
help you. Right. Like I don't have to be like
the fix it person. Right. I can be like, OK,
you need food. That doesn't mean I need to cook
for you. Sometimes it does. But it could mean,
hey, I'm going to help you get to the services
that will give you the food that you need. Right.
Or I'm going to volunteer at the services that
help you get the food that you need. Right. Like
it's yeah, it's all about balance and like finding.
each person's sort of role in that. I think.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's love. Love. It's pretty,
pretty cool thing. What's, what's love got to
do with it? Everything. It's the whole candle,
the whole point of Christmas. We're wrapping
it all up in love. Um, yeah, but not just like
a fluffy love. No. A love that like gets its
hands dirty. I think, I think that's, I think
that's a crux of maybe this whole thing is that
we're, is that the love that we're talking about,
and we didn't even joke about the fluffy love
at the beginning and get down to like the serious
love of God. But the, I think there is a, there
is a difference between that kind of. you know,
whatever else fluffy or the, the, or romantic
love or the, you know, whatever. And the, and,
and the kind of, of love that from God that we
have, or that we're meant to have for, for each
other, which. which I think translates into acts
of service and is an essential part of our faith
development, is receiving God's love and expressing
God's love in others in ways that are meaningful
to them and respond to their needs. Like we've
been talking about this whole time. Yeah. Yeah.
Love that shows up. Love that does the hard things.
That's right. It can't just be a feeling. It
needs to be present. It needs to be, it needs
to show up. There needs to be action, thoughtful,
caring, compassionate. Yeah. Yeah. I'll say the
first step then is you need to recognize that,
or we need to recognize that we, we must love
everyone. And I think that. If I can, like there's,
where was I? I was somewhere and someone told
me they loved me. And I like look back, I'm like,
I don't know if I would say that to you. Do I
say it back? I'm not sure. But, and reflecting
afterwards, like, no, I have, I don't have romantic
love for this person. We barely know each other,
but there is a love that I have for this individual.
And it's the love of Christ. And I think if we
can start seeing like everyone that we see. Yeah.
I love you. Yeah. I don't love I don't love you
because of what you did. Right. Or even who you
are. Well, actually, yeah, because you're a child
of God. Sure. But I love you because Christ loves
you. Right. And yeah, I think that's if I like
the shifting of our thoughts, like to say, like,
I love you. I love you. And it's not because
we spend all this time together because you got
me really great Christmas gifts. I like Nikes.
I like fruitcake. Okay. Okay. Good to know. Good
to know. My mom makes a really good fruitcake.
Oh, and you're going home. And I'm going home.
And you're coming back. I see fruitcake in my
future. But it's not because of all those things.
No, not at all. No. I love you anyway. Thank
you. It fluffs it up. It fluffs it up. Behind
that fluff. Love's still there. Yes. Yes. Love
and fruitcake. Yes. Yes. That's why Jesus came,
right? That's right. Yes. So as we come to the
end of this Advent journey, like I said, we started
with hope. This like we need a thing to look
forward to. And that thing is coming in Christ,
has come in Christ, is coming again. We hope
for peace. We get this like sense of like things
will be well. We have this gift of joy. Like
we get some delight in the midst of all of the
craziness of life. And then we focus in on love.
But like there is this moment of Christ coming
that. meets us in our deepest, darkest places
and says, love is there with you. And then calls
us out of those deep, dark places to extend that
love into the rest of the darkness. And like,
that's Christmas, folks. It's pretty, pretty
cool season. Love it. Yeah. Well, thank you for
tuning in to this week's episode of Trinity Talks.
Yeah, I pray that your Christmas season is a
season filled with love. whatever that looks
like for you, and that you are able to experience
that deep sense of hope, peace, joy, and love
that sits with us now and throughout the rest
of our lives. We'll see you again next week.